Nov
28

Yanks not having any “hi-level” trade talks about starters at the moment

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Via Joel Sherman, the Yankees are not currently having any “hi-level” trade discussions with any teams about a starting pitcher(s). They do have interest in Matt Garza though, who a) I really like, and b) is totally available. Things figure to pick up next week at the winter meetings, but the Yankees are definitely moving at their own pace this offseason. “We’re not desperate to do anything,” said Brian Cashman to Mark Feinsand, which is consistent with this idea of playing it cool and letting the market come to them. We’ll see, but I doubt the Yankees will have a quiet winter.

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League
  • William

    Betances, Gary Sanchez, and some C level prospect is good.

    • mbonzo

      That seems crazy for a guy with one true #2 season under his belt. I like him, but theres no way I would give up the #30 and #43 BA prospects plus more for him.

      • Ted Nelson

        I don’t know that you’ll get him for anything less, though. The Cubs gave up 2 top 100 prospects plus 3 useful pieces for him, then he went out and had a career year. I don’t see why The Boy Genius would be in a rush to dump him for less.

        Who knows what he’ll actually ask for, but I see Garza as a real “buy high” candidate.

  • Andrew Brotherton

    I’m guessing Betances, Warren, and Sanchez for Garza. Sabathia, Garza, Nova, Hughes, Garcia

  • MD

    if our rotation is CC Nova AJ Garcia and Hughes come opening day, we aren’t winning number 28 this year

    • Need Pitching

      you don’t have to keep your opening day rotation all year

      • MD

        valid point. but chances are we’ll stay with that up to july is we start with it

        • MD

          if*

        • Ted Nelson

          Did the new CBA move the World Series to July?

    • CP

      How would that be worse than the 2011 rotation? And the 2011 team had the best record in the AL this year.

      • Soriano Is A Liar

        But the 2011 rotation didn’t win the world series! They had no postseason success! They don’t know how to win! Unclutch! Chokers! Failure! Fire Girardi and trade A-rod!

      • MD

        we got lucky with colon and garcia. we don’t want to rely on luck and hope that AJ and Hughes have bounce back years and for freddy to repeat. that’s a lot of hope.

    • Soriano Is A Liar

      Man, I’m really worried about the 2011 Cardinals, with Wainwright out for the season they don’t stand a chance…

      • http://twitter.com/steveh603 Steve H

        2011 Rangers, after losing Cliff Lee will probably be sellers at the deadline.

        • Soriano Is A Liar

          2010 Phillies, unbeatable!

          2011 Phillies, unbeatable!

          • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

            2003-2011 Red Sox, Unbeatable!

            • Soriano Is A Liar

              Ha, America’s most dominant team.

              • http://jukeofurl.wordpress.com Juke Early

                Thanks for the early AM laugh fellas — and I mean it. That Chowdahhead hype machine was so revved up this time last year, they were dredging the Charles River of Southie barf for months. If they played games on paper, Most of us would be banging supermodels, driving Maseratis & polishing our very own WS rings. . ..

      • MD

        they barely got in to the playoffs to begin with…

        • Soriano Is A Liar

          I know, mostly kidding. I do agree with your point above that we can’t count on Hughes/Burnett/everyone to continue to produce or bounce back, I just think we also can’t assume that Cashman would fail to make a move if he needed to. I suspect he declined to make a trade this year precisely because he didn’t need to, but if he needed to do so in 2012 because the rotation was falling apart (or just needed an upgrade for the playoffs) he he would be ready to do it.

    • RetroRob

      Why? It’s not as if the Cardinals or the Rangers had a great starting rotation this year.

  • Brian S.

    Hurry the fuck up pitching market!

  • dean

    I’d rather pay less for Danks if that’s an option.

    • Rich in NJ

      My thoughts as well.

    • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

      I’m thinking the same too.

  • Grit for Brains

    I’d do Romine, Betances + for Garza, but I wouldn’t want to part with Monty or Banny to get him

  • Reggie C.

    We’d all love to accomplish a Garza trade without having to cough up Banuelos. Realistically, thats just not going to happen. Garza can really step into the 2 spot and bridge the fall off in quality from CC to the rest of the rotation. Its ballsy to trade a top pitching prospect these days, but Garza could be ours for a couple seasons minimum, and there’s always a good shot at getting Garza to sign an extension.

    Call me a pessimist, but i think a couple of the to-be SP free agent gems of the post 2012 season are going to be off the board. Do you want to roll the dice and hope one of Greinke, Hamels, or Cain is still available?

    • http://none Favrest

      I think it could happen. The Cubs aren’t the worst organization in baseball for the last 100+ years for nothing.

      I say offer them Betances, Warren, Mesa and Laird.

    • http://jukeofurl.wordpress.com Juke Early

      Good points. But I still don’t give up ManBan unless it’s for one of these boys: Lincecum, Cain or Fat Felix. Time Cash talked some sense into these other clowns to step up & make a real big time deal w/the NYY, instead of just posing like drag queens for the other girls.

  • http://none Favrest

    Garza wasn’t so great last year. If the Cubs are willing to unload their only established young arm what does that say about him?

    • http://twitter.com/steveh603 Steve H

      That they are trying to rebuild.

    • FIPster Doofus

      Garza had his best season.

    • Total Dominication

      Lol at garza not being so great last year. Are we talking about the same Garza? The guy with the sub-3 tip and low 3 era?

      • Total Dominication

        *fip

      • http://none Favrest

        I stand corrected. He must have had a great second half. I remember him getting lit up in April. Still, if you’re the Cubs why trade him? You just traded top prospects to get him. What would be the point?

        • radnom

          That was a different crew. If they don’t feel they can be competitive during Garza’s stay with the team then it would make sense for them to trade him. It sucks, but holding on to him just makes the mistake worse.

        • Ted Nelson

          In my opinion the point would be to sell high. Guy just beat his career high by almost 2 full fWAR. Good chance he falls off next season, but you might find a team that is willing to bet that was a break-out year rather than a career year… I’m not saying that it couldn’t have been a break-out year, I just think it’s more likely that it was a career year.

      • http://none Favrest

        Seriously, LOL at Garza not being great last year? He wasn’t great last year. Clayton Kershaw and Roy Halladay were great. Look up the word.

  • fin

    Mlbrumors.com is saying that Yankees have interest in Kyle Drabek. Seems odd the Yankees would be looking a minor league pitcher with a high ceiling and control issues. I think they have enough of those.

    • RetroRob

      Depends on the price. I like a buy-low candidate with high upside. Never can have enough arms. Long ago and far away, the Yankees gave away his father. Maybe now we can aquire the son for not a heavy price.

      Just can’t see him moving within division.

  • DM

    How bout offering Hughes and Betances for Garza? Or Hughes, Noesi and Warren?

  • IB6 UB9

    Avoid trades with Toronto. That guy is a shark.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      What? Matt Garza isn’t with Toronto.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

        Ohh, I see. You were replying to the Drabek comment.

  • Bronx Byte

    Addition by subtraction. Peddle Burnett and pave the way for Noesi, Phelps, or Warren to show they deserve the chance.

  • OXXbow

    Garza is not worth more than, say, Bettances and Phelps. The guy is more of a # 3 starter. I think the Yankees will be forced to go after Wilson and others. There are just too many question marks in the current rotation.