Fan Confidence Poll: January 30th, 2012

Sunday Open Thread
Would signing Zack Greinke next winter really be that bad?

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Sunday Open Thread
Would signing Zack Greinke next winter really be that bad?
  • Matt :: Sec110

    I was a 9 last week, it dropped down to 8 this week after the awful news about Kim Jones…sad to see her leave.

    • Chen Meng Wang


  • Robinson Tilapia

    8. Strongly considered lowering to 7 for a week in honor of Kim Jones as well.

    • ChooChoo

      Because of Kim Jones—I’m up to a 10. Hopefully no more mindless 3rd inning reporting while the game is going on. There’s already a half hour and often one hour pre-game show for all the extra stuff. During the game, let’s stick to the action on the field. Glad to see her go.

      • Matt :: Sec110

        I disagree, I like the breakup during the broadcast, and she was good at what she did.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        She may have been the second or third best announcer out of that entire crew.

      • Matt Imbrogno

        That’s not on Kim, though; that’s on the network who did it because every other team’s network does it. She may not have asked the most detailed or in depth questions at times, but she did what she did well and with enthusiasm. I feel like her role was limited by YES and she could’ve done a lot more if given the chance.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          The Yankees, in fact, are probably one of the only franchises or sports entities that make a commitment to breaking with female announce crew members as sideline-type reporters. Love her or hate her, the mere existence of Suzyn Waldman is a very good thing.

          I always greatly enjoyed Jones and Bob Lorenz taking on C-team announce duties on those West Coast games Kay and Singleton didn’t get to. Were she to have stayed on, I always hoped for a much expanded role for Jones. Let’s hope that, wherever she ends up, that’s exactly what she gets.

          • Evan3457

            “Love her or hate her, the mere existence of Suzyn Waldman is a very good thing.”

            Couldn’t disagree more. Waldman interviewing players: good. Waldman doing commentary for John Sterling: waste of air-time.

            But then, Sterling himself is a waste of air-time, so what’s the difference?

      • theyankeewarrior

        Listening to Kim Jones > Listening to 90% of baseball talking heads

      • bpdelia

        Sorry i agree. While she was ok she isn’t goose to curry. And anyway i hate sidelines reporters. Its all useless fluff and every moment the camera is on her it isn’t where it should be, on the field. The influx sidelines reports are obviously far worse.

        The fame needs less mindless fluff sidelines reports, NO MORE IN GAME MANAGER INTERVIEWS (i get my useless cloches quota from the pres and post game manager interviews, and about 75% less shots of fans regardless of celebrity status.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Again, not on Jones. That’s what she was handed.

          • Cris Pengiucci

            And her replacement could be worse. Not living in the NY area, I didn’t get to see/hear her. Just a general comment. Be careful what you wish for …

            • Robinson Tilapia

              I think we found a role for AJ.

        • Matt Imbrogno

          I enjoy Curry a lot more and he’s a fantastic reporter. Both he and Jones deserve(d) more expanded roles at YES.

  • Vegetable Lasagna

    We have yet to see the on the field product so you either have to be at a 0 or a 10. I’m at a 10 because I see the potential in the pitching staff. The pen was already the best in the league and will be made better by the return of Joba and the insertion of Phil Hughes. CC, Kuroda, Pineda, Nova, Garcia is one hell of a starting rotation.

    • MattG

      A zero or a ten? Did we switch to base two and nobody told me?

    • Craig Maduro

      Well, let’s hold off on Hughes to the ‘pen proclamations.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      “Fuck you I won’t do what you tell me” – Zach de la Rocha

      “If you ain’t first, yer last” – Reese Bobby

      I jest but, no, you do not have to be at a zero or ten. There’s all sorts of pretty numbers in between you could choose as well that would be just as valid. You could also just stick with the number you were at the end of the season and adjust slightly for off-season moves, which is why my end-of-season “8” settled back into it’s usual spot after a while.

    • CP

      Considering that there is no option to vote a 0, I assume that means everyone should vote 10?

  • MattG

    It seems like a small thing, but it is an excellent sign that the Yankees and their arbitration eligible players are agreeing to the mid-point with such little acrimony. It means that the Yankees are doing a superb job of evaluating players, and see eye to eye with various agents. This gives me a great deal of confidence.

    • Ted Nelson

      I don’t really follow. Agents should not be impartial judges of value, but should be lobbying on their clients’ behalves to get the best deals possible. I think it’s pretty normal to split the difference on arb eligible players and mitigate risk on both sides (since I believe the arbiter can only choose one side’s $ or the other… not a mid-point), but all else equal agreeing with agents probably means you’re overpaying.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Agreed. This seems to be fairly regular practice for arbitration.

        • MattG

          Except when its not. Some high percentage of cases go to arbitration each year. Some high percentage of players even win those cases.

          The Yankees management made exactly zero mistakes in arbitration this year. They’ve perfectly found the floor to counteract the player’s ceiling, making the midpoint an easy point to settle. This is a win for everyone, and bodes well for the Yankees’ valuation process.

          If you find yourself wondering why the Yankees won’t pay $6M for this or $12M for that, I can use this as evidence that they have a firm grip on the market.

          It’s also just three players, so maybe they got lucky. I doubt it.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I’m sure the rapid response team will chime in with a comparison of how the Yankees do versus the league average, separate out by years, etc. By rapid response, of course, I mean “Larry.” :)

            Until then, we are probably all talking straight out our asses.

          • thenamestsam

            I think it’s more likely that the Yankees have just realized it’s not worth fighting over. With the resources they have risking a player’s good feeling over a half a million dollars here or there would be completely asinine. The difference between paying Martin 7M or 7.5M or 8.2M is a drop in the bucket. The difference between having an annoyed Martin who had to listen to the team argue about how he isn’t good enough vs. a Martin who feels good about how negotiations went is potentially large. Especially given that they may be bidding for his services against other interested parties one year from now.

            Other smart teams with resources have clearly started to do the same thing. Texas, for instance, hasn’t gone to arbitration with a single player since since Daniels took over. It’s hard to see how it could ever be worth the trouble.

            • MattG

              Maybe you and Tipilia are right. It would’ve been a bad sign if they mucked it up, but it’s not really a sign of brilliance that they didn’t. I was still impressed that the numbers were close, and the cases settled so easily.

            • Ted Nelson

              I’d agree that there’s an intangible “feelings” part, but I think a lot of it is purely financial. If you assume a 50/50 chance of winning then you’re both getting your expected $ by meeting half way, while eliminating the risk of losing and paying out more/receiving less. I would imagine teams and players build this into their $ figure, getting ready for the negotiation as much as the actual hearing.

          • Ted Nelson


            “Since 1974, and including 2011, arbitrators have ruled on behalf of the players 212 times and clubs 286 times. Although the number of players filing for salary arbitration varies per year, the majority of cases are settled before the arbitration hearing date. Typically, approximiately 90 percent of the players filing for arbitration reach new agreements before a hearing.”

            90% of cases never make it to the hearing according to the MLBPA. And if you look at the list of what the players are asking for vs. what the team is offering… it’s rarely far apart. Most cases where it is far apart it’s someone who is looking for a huge raise, like Jose Bautista.

            An average of about 13 players cases make it to the hearing according to the MLBPA (498 hearings/38 years).

  • AJavierkei Pavagawnett

    9.5. Carlos Pena would have made it a 10, although anyone (including Raul) would be an upgrade over Posada.

  • Bavarian Yankee

    8 because I’m afraid the players are getting annoyed by watching the Knicks and then slam their heads into walls. That’s what I’m doing since the season started :D

  • Plank

    7 again.

    Went up from a 6 after the Pineda/Kuroda moves.

    Still lose points mostly for the austerity plan (though I don’t completely buy it) and the aging infield.

  • Cris Pengiucci

    I’m at a 9. I had this odd dream last night the the Yanks and Seattle made another deal last night, this time for King Felix. They sent Cano and some others over for him (being that it was a dream, I really don’t recall who was sent other tan Cano). That would have really made this a difficult poll!

    • Plank

      Your Dream Proposal Sucks.

    • BK2ATL

      At this stage, why would we trade Cano for King Felix???

      Go back to sleep and dream another dream, or nightmare. j/k

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Can’t control dreams. I don’t blame Cris for this a bit.

        Cris, you may want to lay off the Fresco Tortillas delivery before bedtime.

        • Cris Pengiucci

          Just warming up for next weekend when we the Giants vin over the Pats. :-)

      • Cris Pengiucci

        Glad it was only a dream. That would have been crazy to digest.

  • Craig Maduro

    I’m at 7.5

    If the Yankees address the DH role to my satisfaction, my confidence will probably increase by a point. My score also hinges on what they end up doing with Phil Hughes. Bullpen assignment = lower score for me.

  • BK2ATL

    I’m at a 9. The Pineda & Campos trade plus the Kuroda trade locked it up for me. I think we have a World Series caliber roster now.

    If we can avoid major injuries, if A-Rod and Tex return to close-to-career-norms level, and if Granderson, Cano and Jeter have similar years, we’re gonna be in very good shape against any team.

    Gonna miss Montero, but we got young SP, 2 power arms at that. With Banuelos and Betances waiting in the wings for 2013, the future is certainly bright.

    I think if they bring in Soler and Conception, I’ll have to bump up the rating to 9.5.

  • bil

    Russell Martin should give half back he sucks so bad, worst catcher in history.(Offensively)

    • Dropped Third


    • JohnC

      Still haven’t forgiven him for popping up with the bases loaded in game 5 heh?

    • Landry

      Bob Uecker would like a word with you.

    • Evan3457

      Thanks, that was LOL funny.

    • Chen Meng Wang

      Frankie Cervelli says hi.

  • LarryM.,Fl.

    9. I’m happy about the state of the team. Now just have to hope for minimum injuries to the everyday players.

  • CJ

    7. Down from 8 after prince fielder signed with tigers.

    • CJ

      If Ibanez or less is signed as DH I will drop to a 6.

  • CMP

    9 and I’d be at a 9.5 if the Yankees can sign Jorge Soler to replace the big prospect bat they traded away in Montero.

  • Chris in Maine

    Mike are you still at a 7?

  • Evan3457

    I’m at 9.
    But then, I’m always at 9.

  • handtius

    i’m at a seven. still morning the loss of jesus (never thought i’d write that sentence). i like pineda, but still, jesus was, well, jesus! (again, never thought i’d write this, even though he was a damn good carpenter).

  • TomH

    I’m stuck at 5, still worried about the aging of Jeter and ARod and the improbability of their rebounding (ARod) or of repeating (Jeter, for Pt. 2 last season). This problem just keeps getting worse and complicates the overall hitting situation. As certain bat speeds slow down, this a team more easily had by good pitching every year. Yeah, of course, all teams have trouble with good pitching, but it’s better to have younger and in-their-prime bats to deal with the problem.

    The loss of Montero really does have to be, somehow, recouped. Who knows how? That’s why Cash gets big dough.

  • Bob Stone

    I am at 9 as usual. This team and organization have so many good things going for it.

    I am sorry to see Kim Jones leave.

    I am very satisfied with all the recent moves . . . Kuroda, Pineda et. al.

    There’s been encouraging news on Hughes and Chamberlain.

    The BoSox are in disarray.

    What’s not to like about the Yankees chances this year? Perhaps Texas and Anaheim(or is that LA or CA?) loading up? Perhaps.

    I like what I am seeing A LOT!