Update: Yankees calling around for offense, have spoken to Carlos Pena
BySunday: Pena confirmed that the Yankees have contacted him about their DH spot. This was inevitable, at some point they had to call and get an idea of his asking price and willingness to DH.
Saturday: Via Jon Heyman, the Yankees are calling around in search of help on offense, and they have some interest in Carlos Pena. The Michael Pineda and Hiroki Kuroda acquisitions shored up the rotation in a big way last night, but they did lose their starting DH in the process.
Remember, the Yankees did claim Pena off waivers last August, but were unable to work out a trade with the Cubs. Feel free to speculate about DH options — Pena, Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui, etc. — but I don’t think this is the most pressing issue right now. They have plenty of offense plus a few in-house candidates (namely a rotating DH), so they can afford to be patient. It’s always easy to land a DH type at the trade deadline if needed.
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I think Damon makes the most sense. He could probably stay fairly healthy in a DH role as well.
He can’t hit.
He was a .270/15 guy last year. He might not hit like your typical DH, but he can still swing the bat.
but he will want $5-8 million
Pena makes sense as the other side of the Jones platoon, guy mashes Righties, but sucks vs lefties
Pena would be nice, also a little insurance if Tex were to get hurt, and just to give him some days.
But that means you can’t use Jones to platoon with Gardner.
they’ll still use ARod, Jeter, etc to DH some. They could use Pena and Gardner vs. rhp and then Jones and rotating DH sub vs. lhp
bummer
Gardner’s splits vs. lefties aren’t half as bad as you’d think, and his defense still makes him a valuable player to have on the field even against a lefty. A platoon of Jones and Peña would have added up to an OPS over .900 last year. Frankly using the two of them we could have one of the most productive DH spots in ages.
I want them to get a very good defensive infielder who can play SS and 3B. This way we can have A-Rod and Jeter DH a lot. When necessary someone like Jones can fill in the DH spot.
I think we might already have our guy in Nunez though.
Are there any salary dumps that we can exchange for Burnett? Or maybe just eat a lot of the contract? I mean if Zambrano can be traded, then Burnett definitely can as well.
They already have a very good defensive infielder: Ramiro Pena. The problem is that he’s a disaster at the plate. Very good defensive infielders who are good at the plate are starters elsewhere, so anything significantly better than Ramiro is a pipe dream. And Jeter DHing is a net loss for the team.
We all know those budget expansion talks were about signing Prince Fielder. /optimism
I hate the rotating DH.
If I have to watch Eduardo Nunez play in the field every day I’m pretty sure I’ll have a stroke.
They will NOT rotate DH and wait till deadline
Yanks do very well when Nunez plays every day. He will improve with playing time.
Pena would be a good option for 300-400 ABs against righties and to rest Teix. Plus he has a reputation as a great teammate and clubhouse guy and he’s been through the fire in the AL east before.
I’d be willing to bet that a Jones/Pena platoon could easily be a wash if not exceed whatever Montero would have given the Yankees in 2012.
Too bad David Ortiz signed. On a 2 year deal, he would have been a great DH, wouldn’t have affected the 2014 budget and it would have been a knife to the heart of Rex Sux nation.
Pena will strike out about four to five times the number of homers he hits. He will hit in the low 200s. You might as well give theand job to Jorge Vazquez who will give you about the same number of strikeouts, homers and probably a .250-.260 Ba. and at a much cheaper cost.
ya except Pena will make up for it with great defense when he plays 1st and you forgot to mention the most important number…OBP. Pena walked at a 16.7% clip last year. That is ELITE. And Vazquez is putting up those K numbers at on old age and against AAA fodder. Given a full season of AB’s he’d probably strike out 300 times and the guy doesn’t walk much at all. Last year while repeating IN TRIPLE A he walked 6% of the time (which represents his career best) and struck out a whopping 33.2% which was more than Mark Reynolds did in the show last year.
So you want the guy with zero defensive value that was WAY worse last year at 30 years old in AAA than the guy who was much better and has a track record of success in the big leagues? A Pena/Jones platoon would probably approach 400 wOBA.
Pena isn’t a great defender. Fangraphs and baseball reference have him at replacement level.
he’s much better than Vazquez
Except Pena is a LH that rakes RHP, which is a much better fit. And he makes a lot fewer outs.
Exactly. Pena hit: .255/388/504 against RHP last year. Add that in with Andruw hitting 286/384/540 against LHP and you have one of the best hitters in the league. And both can play the field so Chavez can stay just an ARod backup and we can get Tex some rest. It’s the perfect plan. Hopefully Pena will come for $4MM or so. I guess it depends on if he wants raw cash or to win.
Vazquez hits about .260-.270 at AAA with almost no walks. Pena’s OBP in the majors consistently has been better than Vazquez’s OBP at AAA.
How about move A-Rod to DH, and either sign someone like Keppinger to be the new 3B or have Nunez as the starting 3B.
No chance that happens yet, but certainly where it’s heading down the road.
Isn’t Arod is still an above avg defending 3b.
better than Nunez at least
Yes
Nunez as the starting third baseman sounds like a catastrophe waiting to happen
Before last year Nunez had only appeared in 11 games over 6 years as a 3B. I know he lloked terrible at 3B last year but he deserves some slack due to his inexperience at the position.
Nunez got moved around too much and had to change angles at the different positions . He will be fine if he stays in one place for a while
He looked terrible everywhere they tried him. Its not like third base was his bugaboo.
Arid was sensational at third last year. I don’t understand where all of this DH talk is coming from. If anything, I’m worried about his decline in power .
When he stops playing third it will most likely be to preserve his health
Keppinger is barely a starter on the Astros
signed pena perfect fit, platoon with jones
I wouldn’t rule out Prince with the way Cashman & Co. operate. They love sneak attacks, and signing Fielder would devastate Texas and the rest of the AL.
Whatever cashman reiterates publicly is the opposite. How many times did he talk up noesi let alone montero. “Bubba Crosby is our CF.”
“Nick Swisher is our first baseman”
I did not have relations with that woman…. Oh wait.
I’m not altogether confident about the Yankees’ hitting. Too much depends on a Jeter repeat (of the second half) and on ARod’s knee and hip and whatever else may show up. Also, if they’re “older” (as Girardi likes to put it), they ought to get days off rather than be used as DH. Thus I would lean to the Andruw/Pena scenario. Fielder seems a troublesome pie-in-the-sky option: he’ll want more face-time, in the field that is, than a mere DH. In any case, the Yanks are unlikely to want to put out the Princely sum he’ll expect.
He’d get plenty of face time launching bombs over the RF wall.
I think you forgot the part where Pena walks 4 or 5 times as often as Vazquez would. Walks a lot; hits a lot of HRs…those still generate significant offense. 123 OPS+ last season (also his career mark). Only two Yankees did better, Grandy and Cano. Question whether Pena would accept what the Yankees would be willing to pay him. I’m assumimg that would be roughly what they’re paying Andruw.
I’d prefer a hitter who makes better contact.
Let’s get Posada out of retirement (kidding). Funny timing though, huh?
LOL
Exactly!
Why would we even consider Pena when Posada would happily flail away.
I would love it if they found a solid infielder that could play regularly so they can give Jeter and (especially) A-Rod time at DH. Failing that, Pena would be a nice pick up. I’m not really enamored with the idea of Nunez getting a lot of playing time, but we’ll see what happens.
just say no to damon/matsui/abreu. i’d love pena, but i think he’ll be too expensive and there are teams still looking for a 1b.
It needs to be a lefty and be able to play the field. Pena makes sense. He can also spell Teix at 1st. We already have Jones as the 4th OF and RH bat. The DH will be part time as I can see ARod and Jeter being used there more often.
Swisher can spell Tex at 1st. No on Pena.
But wait, I thought Swisher sucked. RAB confuses me
I know nothing about how much is left on each contract. But a Burnett for Dunn swap would be nice.
Burnett: 2/33
Dunn: 3/44
What does Chicago want with Burnett? Give me a good reason why they would want him. Chicago´s SP is pretty much lined up. Dunn is slated to have a 40 HR rebound season in 2012 ? That´s alot of wishful thinking.
jason giambi
Giambino FTW!!!!!
Not the craziest idea, dude can still rake. Not 2003 levels, but still a hitter.
Actually yeah, Giambi can still rake , and pairing him with Jones could really yield big results on the cheap
If they’re looking for a powerful lefty who is a great clubhouse guy, I’m not sure why the Yankees haven’t inquired about Tim Tebow yet
I would have gone with Obama (the campaigner, not the president).
+1
How about Bonds? I hear he’s free…
+1
Dellin for Dominic
i’d like a trade for david murphy (well, actually, i’d like a trade for lucas duda).
2 of AJ, Garcia, Hughes are going to go.
We know the FA options Fielder, Pena, Damon, Vlad
The AJ salary swaps for Soriano, Dunn, Rios?
Trade Hughes + for ? Headley? others?
other bats available via trade Seth Smith, Dom Brown, Prado? others?
Carlos Quentin on the cheap would’ve been prefect
1 of Burnett. Hughes and Garcia battle it out in ST for the 5th spot. By the end of ST everyone will know what Hughes true value is, if he looks great then the Yanks will either release Garcia or trade him. His contract is for peanuts so won´t represent much of an obstacle for NY to eat it or for another team to pick it up.
Hughes should not have to “battle it out with Garcia” ruin his career.
PRINCE!!!!! PRINCE!!!!! PRINCE!!! DO IT NOW!!!!
Prince will be a Yankee before he becomes a ranger. They could pass if he goes to washington but not Texas.
How about Wilson Betemit to platoon with Jones?
Interesting option
Well, if we’re feeling adventurous, no less a Mets fan than Evan Roberts has said that he would happily ship Murphy to the Yankees for Austin Romine.
Ideally, I’d prefer that our DH not be an all-or-nothing kind of guy. Homers are great but sometimes I’ll settle for an RBI groundout.
ya RBI ground outs are the way to go. Not only can they only score one run, but they also have the added benefit of making an out. HR’s have this messy way of scoring up to 4 at a time and not making outs. They do kill rallies and our team last year was hitting way too many HR’s to be successful…Is that you McCarver?
you missed the point.
A .200 BA with 30 HRs and 160 Ks isn’t the sort of skill-set the lineup will need going forward
well he would platoon with Andruw and pena hit .255 against LHP last year which is irrelevant. Pena walks a ton. Higher OBP means less outs. Less outs is GOOD. What sort of skill set does the offense need going forward? Less power and patience? We need some more slap hitters? My mistake…I didn’t recognize you…hi La Russa.
Juan Pierre FTW
Getting base hits also means creating fewer outs — the team already has several players who skew towards the three outcome approach. Also, given the total uncertainty around A-Rod, the team could definitely use a dose of athleticism and versatility.
ideally, everyone would hit .300/.400/.500 and be athletic and versatile. Unfortunately those players are few and far between, and absent the ideal, I would think it would be best to go with the player who is going to provide the most value overall, rather than trying to force a specific type of player. I do agree that they could use more high average, solid all around hitters, but it comes down to what the trade off is. For example, I’d much rather have a 240/360/450 hitter than a 300/330/350 hitter
You left out the most important information…how often does this mythical hitter avoid making outs? What about the rest of his extra base hits?
Your the kind of clown who defends swisher sucking dick in the playoffs. But But he walks alot
Thanks for trolling.
You mean not putting too much weight into small sample sizes when they mean, well, not much? Particularly when there is an extremely large sample size which tells us much more of importance?
Against lefties Jones can move to right, A-Rod or Jeter DH and Nunez can replace the DH in the field. A good and healthy 3B would be ideal but Nunez’s weaknesses would be minimized playing only against lefties.
How about Young or Parra from ARZ? They need pitching send A.J and cash.
I hope a small door has opened for Jorge Vazquez.
Deserves a chance.
Don’t hate. Embrace: http://media.nj.com/yankees_ma.....-large.jpg
Stop. Ok? Stop it. Just…. No.
I think so too. He’s a righty and all, but I like him and he really does deserve a chance at something.
Nope
Why doesn’t he deserve a chance?
Mind you, I’m not asking why he shouldn’t be given the job outright with no competition, but I’m asking why he doesn’t deserve a chance?
He’s had a chance. At AAA. And he is not good enough. Don’t fall in love with a few HRs. His OBP is putrid. He was just not a good enough player at AAA to deserve more than a glance.
Phil and dellin for d brown, aj to the pen, garcia to the 5th spot
Boom
Yanks aren´t putting 16.5 million in the pen.
Well hes not going to be in the rotation and his stuff would play up in the pen and wed get some value instead of paying 20+ mil for him to not pitch at all for us. Hes got the stuff for it and he always seems decent for the first 4,5 innings. Id like to see the guy air it out for an inning and see wat he can do.
His contract is a sunk cost. It doesn’t matter what they are paying him– they should use him in whatever way most benefits the team.
+1
Garcia can be traded if he ok’s it.
I have a lot more faith in Garcia giving the Yankees 6 IP/3 ER every fifth day than I do Burnett or Hughes. So, I hope Freddy ends up as the No. 5.
Yea but he could make a good long man as well.
Why would you trade 2 pitchers for a guy who’s own team does not think he can play in MLB.
I don’t think he’s available, so the whole point is moot, but the two pitchers are bad at pitching and don’t have a place to pitch on the Yankees. Another team not properly valuing one of their own pitchers is a sign that they would be a good trade partner. Nick Swisher for Wilson Betemit says hi.
Misread original trade proposal. I would still make that trade is a heartbeat.
The Phillies wouldn’t though. Why is everyone focusing their gaze on Domonic Brown suddenly? Did something happen I don’t know about?
Two guys in trades I think could make a lot of sense in trades would be Kendry Morales and David Wright. I like Kendry more because of buying low but Wright would be good for the people who are ready to throw Arod to the DH. Maybe a Hughes for morales swap would make sense with two buy low candidates but then again the Angels don’t exactly need pitching. Thoughts?
I don’t think they would trade with each other they are direct competitors
That’s a definite possibility but they did trade Napoli to the Rangers.
No they didn’t. They traded Napoli to the Blue Jays, who flipped him to the Rangers.
Shoot your right good call. I was trying to remember how frank Francisco ended up in Toronto in the end.
Sign Pena to platoon at DH. He can backup Tex and Chavez can backup ARod. VS LHP ARod or Jeter could DH while Andruw plays for Gardner and Nunez backs up on the infield. VS RHP Pena can DH or Tex could get a day or two off against maybe James Shields and his change up while Pena backs him up and Chaves can play 3B while ARod DH’s. It’s absolutely perfect. Andruw/Chavez/Nunez/Pena. Two lefties, two righties. Against LHP
C Martin
1B Tex
2B Cano
3B ARod or Nunez
SS Jeter or Nunez
LF Andruw
CF Grandy
RF Swish
DH Arod/Jeter/Andruw depending on who gets the day off
Against RHP
C Martin
1B Tex or Pena
2B Cano
3B ARod or Chavez
SS Jeter
LF Gardner
CF Grandy
RF Swish
DH Pena or Tex
You can set it up so guys have off days and have a platoon advantage in 7 out of 9 players every night if you want. Now only if we could get Frankie to start hitting left handed and not suck so bad at defense.
Its too bad Carlos Beltran has already signed. Instead of finding a DH we should be looking for an OF – and move Swisher to DH. That would take care of our long-term RF problem as well as filling the DH spot. I could see Cespedes (if his price comes down) being a fit, or perhaps a trade for an OF.
Beltran’s not any good with those knees. Miami said they will chase cespedes to the “point of stupidity” so no his price is not coming down.
If Miami signs Cespedes, then Logan Morrison and Chris Coghlin become available. Two pretty good young players. Maybe just one of the two.
I’d actually given Coghlan a passing thought today.
I’ve been a Pena fan for awhile now. I would love to add him to the Yanks.
If the Yankees sign Pena I don’t see them signing Chavez which I don’t mind. The bench would be Jones/Pena, Cervelli(Romine), Nunez, and one of Dickerson,Maxwell,Russo,Nix,Laird,R.Pena, What do you think of this?
I’d sign up for this.
I like it to because you have a power bat, backup catcher,backup IF, and each of the last one offers something unique. Laird: Corner IF some LF with a good bat, no speed. R.Pena Very good IF glove no bat. Russo Very Versatile (2B,3B,LF,CF, some SS) decent speed okay bat. Maxwell OF with good bat K’s alot, Dickerson we know what we get from last year. I honestly wouldn’t mind any one of them and it would open up a good competition at camp among a lot of players.
@Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
“Here’s the guy who may well get first shot to be the Yankees DH: Jorge Vazquez. baseball-reference.com/minors/player.… WBC MVP, dominant winter numbers.”
Really wanna know what Buster is smoking. 261 K’s in 816 plate appearances in AAA? No thanks.
No way to Vasquez in a Pena Thread???
I think Burnett, Burawa, and Warren for Morales and Luis Jimenez. A nice bat and a promising 3rd baseman
That doesn’t sound feasible no matter how low morales value is.
No takers on Wilson Betemit? Really?
not a bad budget option. I’d prefer Pena, but the Yankee budget may make betemit more realistic.
I like Wilson but his defense is pretty suspect – don’t see the Yanks doing it though
Which is why platoon DH is a nice position for the man.
Might prefer Pena and look to him if Pena prefers a starting 1b job elsewhere
There has to be a plan for DH, AJ/Hughes. They didn’t pull the trigger in 2 deals in one night without a big picture plan. I say the wheels are in motion on the follow up deals.
I think they probably have a plan but I think they have been working on the Seattle deal for awhile and when they got the go ahead they quickly signed Kuroda before the Sox used him as a response.
I think they probably checked into the market for both players earlier and knew what they could do but I doubt they stalled anything while they waited for commitments on other deals. Cash may not have even talked exact deals with anyone recently to help keep this deal quiet.
Think Boston snags Edwin now??
I think they do something big. Between the Yanks moves and last season they need something big and positive.
Even the Celtics suck.
“the Yankees are calling around in search of help on offense”
Oh wait … I thought Jesus Montero was a pitcher?
I Like the Wright idea.
Aj would thrive there. Hughes, Joba, Nunez, Laird and a 100 million dollar Yes Visa
It’s gotta be someone that can play first in a pinch – no?? Last year they had Tex, Swish, Chavez and Jorge if they needed someone – can’t afford a DL trip from either Tex or Swish at this point.
I don’t think you need 4 first basemen.
Rosters aren’t unlimited and Pena is FA replacement level at best even in season.
agree w emac…need someone who can play 3B more than 1B.
they can do both. There are 2 open position player spots now, DH and 1 bench spot. I would think the ideal situation would be a Lefty power bat as platoon DH (regardless of other positions) and if that player can’t play third, a 3B. If the lefty power DH can play third, the last bench spot can be used for anything.
Theoretically any 3B could play 1B, but not necessarily the other way around.
Hey, Prince throws right handed……
Heh…as it turns out, last year was the Yankee’s version of a rebuilding year…
It Should be Matsui because hes just so clucth in the postseason or Damon because of his upcoming 3000 hits
Seriously??
Hughes for Beltre?
I keed, I keed.
How about Tex to the Rangers for Beltre and Robertson to the Angels for Trumbo?
Move Arod to DH Hughes and Joba into the pen for Robertson
I think Trumbo should improve over his first season.
Who plays 3B for Texas? Young? They signed Beltre to put an end to that. Plus Teixera has a NTC and grew up idolizing Donnie Baseball, he’s not going anywhere.
Hey! It’s more realistic then Hughes!
I posted mine without seeing yours BTW
Tex did really well down there and they are ready to spend on Fielder who costs about the same but isn’t the defensive player by far.
Young isn’t idea but maybe that gives them the money for Darvish and tex instead od Darvish or Fielder.
Beltre and Darvish
Beltre and Fielder
or
Tex and Darvish knowing that you have young for third?
Tex might be willing to consider it given that he is still struggling to hit here,knows he can hit there and is going to a contending team.
I see your points and they make sense objectively speaking.
Hughes for Beltre was a joke/pipedream BTW.
He love Donnie Baseball? Trade him and Swisher to the Dodgers for Kemp and Loney! Done and done.
Kidding of course, unfortunately.
I like the way they waited until Jorge retired so they wouldn’t have to listen to his whining.
I laughed.
What’s up with Brandon Inge?
(ducks under desk)
Mike Francesca would be thrilled.
That’s reason enough not to look into it.
He looks exactly like Simon Pegg (Hot Fuzz, Sean of the Dead)
Guys i think would be good for the Yanks to look at for that DH spot
1. K.Morales (personally my favorite option)
2. D.Murphy
3. C.Pena
4. E.Nunez
The more I look back at morales the more I want it to happen. Let’s go cash, be a ninja.
Why would the Angels want to sell so low on him though?
After missing 1 1/2 years with that ankle injury, they reasonably couldn’t expect to get much back for him plus that team need needs offense more than anything else so I’m not sure they’d be interested in what the Yankees had to offer.
The problem is the fact that they have Trumbo, Morales and Trout for one DH spot. The only way they have room for both Trumbo and Morales is if one can transition to 3rd.
I would think the Angels starting outfield next year is Wells in left, Boujos in center and Hunter in RF with Trout in AAA.
DH would be Morales if healthy so I guess Abreu and Trumbo are bench guys or trade bait.
See i truly think Angels are losing confidence in him and since Trumbo was so monstrous i see him as their 3rd basemen and like u said about the outfield players i see them starting to use Hunter at DH more often because he is starting to lose his steps. Never kno Morales might be had on the cheap if the angels are contempt with the package and if they think his injury is going to hamper him. And it shouldn’t hurt us to give it a try with his potential and if he continues to be injured at least he is controlled for i think 2 or 3 more years for a position where we r ok right now at.
has there been any word on Morales’ injury status? Seems like the Angels signing Pujols might be an indication they aren’t confident in Morales for this year (not necessarily though)
He’s ramping up baseball activities now.
Yea i havnt heard much about it, just that he’s progressing. N i hear the argument about Morales its just one of those guys who is at a buy low level (even if the Angels don’t think so) and is loading with 1st base types. I don’t know what a type of package would be needed but he just has huge skill sets and wouldn’t hurt to check him out
How about giving Manny Ramirez a look as a non guaranteed spring training invitee? The first time he steps out of line, just cut him.
If anything could motivate the guy to behave for a year, coming back to the Bronx and sticking it to the Red Sox could be it.
This sounds fun
Doesn’t Manny still have to sit out his 50 game suspension?
Lets get a podcast with all this action!
If the Yankees are going to swing a deal with the Angels, it seems it would more likely be for Abreu. If they ate some of his remaining money, he could be a bargain. .360 OBP with a little speed and power — shame he can no longer field
Might be able to get Damon cheaper – lower OBP, but higher AVG and more power, though Abreu had better numbers against RHP, Damon had a reverse split
Can’t imagine the Angels eating a lot of money to help the Yankees anyways
Cashman should just ask Bobby Valentine who he thinks the Yankees should play at DH so he doesn’t make a mistake.
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....kees-moves
What happened to a superstar at every position?
or at a DH that hits well.
Pena seems like a good fit if we can afford him. Lots of HR’s the last 5 years which YS would certainly not hinder. Excellent glove and insurance policy for Tex. Seems durable too. Hate to see Morales become another Chavez/Nick Johnson of the future.
Oh and on this day of prospect sadness and loss, Pena started out in our organization iirc.
Bye bye Ramiro, hello Carlos.
Always good to upgrade your Pena.
he came up with Texas, but spent part of 2006 with Yankees AAA team after being released by Detroit
he was part of the Yankee 3-team Jeff Weaver trade though (going from Oakland to Detroit)
Nope. Pena started in Texas.
Oh man. I thought about your tag last night. Sticking with it? Going for a remix?
For now I will become Monterowasdinero. I will add wellspent or poorlyspent to the end of my tag some time in 2012.
Man, that guy has a lightning quick and powerful bat through the zone.
I will kill Cashman’s dog if he moves DRob for Trumbo. I really hope that is just a BS report.
Agree. Terrible move. DRob has a big future and can be with us for many years 1 inning at a time.
yup. if they really can’t get a free agent DH and want a full time DH instead of rotating just use Vazquez
Vazquez + DRob >>>>> Trumbo
Having to look at a < .300 OBP every time he came to bat would make me sick, especially if DRob was dominating out west.
How about Hughes plus for kendry morales. 2 injured guys looking to make comebacks
Since when does bad=injured?
Where in the world did you hear that, other than “some dude here.”
http://baseball.realgm.com/src.....ng_trumbo/
I don’t know how good of a source they are, anyone know how reliable they are?
Never heard of them. They must be crushed.
Then again, could this be a case of selling high on a reliever? All this potential tinkering is not for the faint at heart.
https://twitter.com/#!/MLBInsideNews/status/157999416962334720
I’ve already given the Carlos Pena option too much thought to go back on it. He’s an all-or-nothing type of hitter, but I agree that he could be particularly lethal at YS3, plus offers some flexibility with giving Tex a day off in the field. One-year deal. See what the needs are again next year.
The debut of my new handle.
Pena for as few pennies as possible.
Shedding a tear for the old tag. I know I won’t stop being a fan of his. I hope to see multiple MVPs for Jesus, and multiple Cy Youngs for Pineda.
Meh … give the multiple MVP support to Cano, but I respect the sentiment. I remembered the signing of a 16/17 year old Montero and wondered if the Yanks had just grabbed a cornerstone … something i usually hope in any high-priced international signing.
End of day, i agree with you that Montero hopefully works out for the Mariners as a classic masher. Montero’s success only adds to the allure of Yankees prospects and shuts up the “yank prospects are overhyped crowd” nicely.
Fine. Montero and Cano can alternate first and close second in MVP voting, except for the years in which the rest of the Yankee starting lineup finished 1-8 in the voting. Better?
I wonder if the impending Montero workouts with ARod in Miami forced Cash’s hand.
PED’s and beautiful blondes can be a wicked combination for a 22 year old stud making 500K a year.
/half kidding
If A-rod bags you Torrie Wilson, what would Montero get? Can’t have C-level WWE Diva at YS3. Off to Seattle you go.
Just checking in
Nah, dude.
Betancesisgreatances should be left on the cutting room floor as well.
Isn’t Casey Kotchman still available? I think Carlos Guillen could work if Carlos Pena doesn’t sign.
Pena gets a boost hitting in front of and behind legitimate hitters for the first time in his career. Damon is not a bad consolation prize. A deal with the Angels is possible as Abreu is always a tough out who takes pitches and he stole more than twenty bags last year. The Angels still need a closer. A Soriano-Abreu swap with the Angels throwing in something young and cheap might work with Hughes likely to shift to the seventh and allow Joba to rehab as a starter again.
I would think Abreu would pretty much just be a salary dump for the Angels I would think. Soriano (despite being overpaid) still has some use to the Yankees. Don’t see a need to give him up for a guy the Angels could probably give away. I guess maybe the salary aspect could make that needed though.
Hughes plus for kendry morales
Could see Laird having value to the Angels with 3rd being one of the only positions they could upgrade.
Kevin Long was the guy who resurrected Carlos Pena’s swing a few years back. If his price comes down and takes a 1 yr deal I gave no issue with bringing him on board. Cashman will be patient with DH issue trust me.
Cashman will be patient with DH issue trust me.
That’s all the proof I need.
Trade AJ plus $9mil to the angels for bobby abreu, he still can hit RHPs plus he could be our fifth OF (relax he will mainly be our DH VS RHP) we will be saving like 12 on AJ’s Deal and plus the angels have no use for Bobby now
But they would have use for AJ?
What?
Sign Matsui!
… So he can retire Nomar style.
Hey Losers, anyone remember game six of the 2009 world series yanks vs phils matsui vs Pedro martinez and who had 3 homers and 6 RBI? SIGN MATSUI the guy is good! Pena isn’t good
Yeah, but Pedro won’t be pitching to him anymore.
anyone interested in bringing Giambi back
Give Jorge Vazquez a chance at DH. He’s earned it.
How about Vladdy Guerrero? I like him better as a one year option then Pena.
Totally irresponsible thought here about the Pineda/Montero etc trade.
Wouldn’t it have made SLIGHTLY more sense for the M’s to cough up Felix instead of Pineda? Here’s my reasoning.
-Felix is owed a lot of money the next few years. Pineda shows Felix-esque promise and is under team control for 5 more years.
-With that payroll shed, they could delve into the free agent hitting market more often. Adding a guy like Fielder this year and making plays at lesser names in the ’13 class like Phillips, Swisher etc.
-By giving up Felix they in theory could have filled their rotation for the next few years and gotten Montero. Pineda, Banuelos, Betances, Nosei(?).
I get he is TEHHH King Felix but from the M’s POV, I honestly think they could have set up their future better by trading felix. Having said that, I’m a fan of the trade and look forward to an blue chip prospect lighting up the radar guns for the next 5 years.
Jack Z is trying to save his job not lose it immediately. While what you propose makes sense on a longterm basis, by the time the Mariners could legitimately contend, Jack would be history. The deal got made precisely because they couldn’t sign Fielder — he didn’t want to play there at a reasonable price. Trading for Montero is Plan B.
Very good points. But since he’s “TEHHH King Felix” that’s why it didn’t happen.
Jack Z is one stubborn, stubborn, old fart.
Hey Nick. What u think Pena i gonna want a hug and a handshake. Comon. Damon has Boras and he will go whomever gives him at bats 1st bc he 200+ away from 3000.
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Does anybody have any idea of what Jorge Vazquez’s spilts are like. At AAA he simply mashes, if he can hit right handed pitching I think he could make an effective and very cheap platoon with Andruw Jones. However seeing that he bats right I fear he will be stronger against lefties which we already have Jones for. Then again Jones could play against tough lefties in LF and Jorge Vazquez as DH. Its an option
Mike
his carrer high in walks in 6% and strikes out somewhere in nieghborhood of 300 times per 600 abs, with a an obp uneder 300. Splits dont really matter, when you’re that bad.