Open Thread: 2/19 Camp Notes

Done deal: Burnett traded to Pirates
Sherman: Framework for Ibanez deal in place for weeks
Baseball's back. (REUTERS/Steve Nesius)

The 2012 Yankees season officially started today when pitchers and catchers reported for duty in Tampa. All they did today was take physicals, and the first workout scheduled for tomorrow. Position players report on Friday. We’ve already recapped Brian Cashman’s meeting with the media, but Joe Girardi‘s session was pushed back to tomorrow because of travel issues. Here’s some miscellaneous notes from throughout the day…

Here is your open thread for the evening. The Rangers, Devils, and Nets are all playing rare Sunday might games, so there are plenty of ways to entertain yourself before getting back to the grind in the morning. Talk about whatever you like here, anything goes.

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  • Virgil Earp

    #20 will be officially retired later this season. He was the greatest catcher of his era and a sure fire hall of famer. He damn well deserves to have his # retired and one day a monument.

    • Esteban

      Don’t know if Jorge is a sure fire HOFer and I really don’t expect a monument.

      • Rookie

        It’s VERY hard for me to imagine Jorge making the Hall of Fame.

    • ynkefn

      maybe one day he will get his number retired, but as for HOF and monument, don’t think so

    • http://wwww.theyankeeanalysts.com Steve S.

      Sincerely, Laura Posada

    • brent

      WHOAAAA!!!!! n Greatest of his era??? Um…..no. I loved Posada but he was the THIRD greatest catcher of his era. Piazza and Rodriguez were both significantly better players than Jorge Posada. Sorry but lets not get homer crazy here.

      Piazza was about he same defensively and hit well enough to be a no doubt HOFER even if he played 1b.

      Rodirguez is one of the greates defenders ever to play his position, could run and was a pretty damn good hitter as well.

      SO no. Posada was the third best catcher of his era.

      • Thomas Cassidy

        Best clean catcher.

      • MannyGeee

        Best straight catcher?

        #nohomo

    • Peepee Hands

      It would be a damn shame if they retired #20 before #21. I’m not saying Jorgie doesn’t deserve it but… Damn.

  • GardnergoesYardner

    So glad that baseball’s back. I know today doesn’t mean a thing, but symbolically, it signifies the start of another season and the end of having to put up with endless news about football and basketball (especially Linsanity). Right now, I feel the best I’ve felt about the team since the 2009 2nd half, where they could not lose. I am not saying I expect them to be that good, but we won 97 games last year, and the upgrades we have made definitely are worth more than 6 or 7 wins. The pitching is looking great, and the offense should continue to excel. It’s looking like it’s going to be a fun summer in the Bronx.

    • Esteban

      How can you be mad about the Lin coverage? It’s just a good story, even if you’re not a huge fan of basketball.

      • GardnergoesYardner

        I’m not mad. I appreciate the kid for being a good player, coming out of nowhere, and stepping up to play a big role on the team when Melo and Stoudemire were out. I just think it’s extremely overhyped. New York is acting as if they have never seen a good basketball player before, when they have two superstars already on their team. Lin fits perfectly in D’Antoni’s all offense screw defense system, and would not be enjoying the same offensive freedoms/ little to no focus on all of his turnovers elsewhere.

        Mostly, I’m not really mad at Lin, but the NBA as a whole for being such a star driven, big market league. If Lin was playing in New Orleans or Sacremento, we’d have half the Lin coverage that we do.

        • Havok9120

          He’d get half this coverage if he were in Chicogo or LA. In NOLA or Sacramento he’d be lucky to get a fifth. Very lucky. We all know about the all-powerful New York media market and this is just more proof of it.

          • Bo Knows

            He wouldn’t have had the opportunity to play, in NY or Chicago, and if he turned the Kings around he would have gotten a ton of press

        • brent

          right the all offense system that has them any where between the 6th and 9th best team by defensive efficiency in the NBA?

          The team that hasn’t allowd over 100 points in like 9 games?

          If anything defense has been the number one thing that has mad this winning streak. Watch the games the knicks have been playing unbelievably defensively and Lin is a fantastic player. No one is acting like we’ve never seen a star.

          What we have never seen is an undrafted guy/15th man on the team get callled on and basically go on a run that has him looking like one of the better players in the league.

          Lin has been fantastic. His asst% since he took over as a starter is like, historically, all time great insanely good. He’s constantly putting up 25 with double digit assists. He took a team that was drowning missing it’s two best players and carried it to 8 out of 9.

          Man there is nothing blown out of proportion here. IT’s straight up unprecedented never happened before. ever.

          And before you go off about his turnovers (yes they are a BIT of a problem) buit LIn’s usage is so insanely high that it’s far less of a problem than it appears.

          Sorry I’m a curmudgeounly skeptical hater in general in my life but whats going on with the knicks is unbelievable.

          Literally extremely hard to believe.

        • Bo Knows

          Knicks fans have seen good players, but they haven’t seen a team with promise in a long long time

        • http://twitter.com/matt__harris Matt :: Sec110

          oh, yeah, like the Durant kid that hides in the small OKC market.

  • Esteban

    Thank you Jeremy Lin for making post super bowl pre baseball season entertaining. This is the most excited I’ve been for basketball since about 1998 and Jeremy Lin might be my favorite player now.

    • Paul VuvuZuvella

      +1

    • brent

      seriously see my above post. THere is no diminishing what Lin has done. It’s completely unprecedented.

    • mustang

      So second this!!!!!

      So much for the dead months as I like to call them.

  • Paul VuvuZuvella

    On CC and Pineda as locker neighbors … coincidence? Nah, the Yanks recognize they’ll be able to share wardrobes.

    • 28 this year

      Even funnier is that ManBan is next to them. So small compared to the two giants.

  • dkidd

    freddy appears to be in tiptop shape

    • http://www.twitter.com/jmarlowescully Scully

      yah man seriously… dude needs a sports bra.

    • GardnergoesYardner

      I thought we were past the days of players arriving to camp out of shape. Guess not.

      • Havok9120

        Somehow, I can’t see it negatiely impacting his “stuff.”

        After all, he has no “stuff” to impact.

  • LarryM.,Fl.

    I know this is not baseball related but it does apply indirectly. The Lin situation to me is wonderful. It shows that players from the smaller programs in college produce professional athletes if given a true opportunity. How many point guards have the Knicks employed the large programs who are more about practice time than class time. These guys couldn’t lead a team or fine an open player to dish the ball. So often its about the athletic prowess as opposed to the total package. I don’t know if Lin can continue this fabulous run. Other teams will start to adjust to his offensive skills but I like the aspect of his unselfish play continuing.

    Too many times players in all sports are overlooked by professional scouts or discounted because of the smaller program name.

    • http://twitter.com/matt__harris Matt :: Sec110

      well many a point guard has flourished in Dantoni’s system. (see: Chris Duhon, Ray Felton)

  • Jamey

    I get the feeling the contract Freddy signed might have had a couple of pizza grease stains on it. Upon signing it he offered Cashman a cheeseburger to which Cash responded “Did you pull that out of your pants pocket?”

    • Plank

      He’ll sweat all that excess weight off in his first few starts.

      • BrianH

        He comes in looking worse than last year, he needs to fight for his spot. Does he have a guaranteed deal?

        • Havok9120

          Yes, he does.

  • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

    Burnett, 35, was signed by the Yankees as a free agent on December 18, 2008, to a five-year contract. In his three seasons with the club, he went 34-35 with a 4.79 ERA (584.0IP, 311ER) in 99 games (98 starts). His 58 wild pitches recorded during his three-year stint with the Yankees (2009-11) were the most for any Major League pitcher over a three-season span since Tony Cloninger threw 62 wild pitches from 1964 through 1966, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

    He posted an 11-11 record with a 5.15 ERA (190.1IP, 109ER) in 33 appearances (32GS) with the Yankees in 2011, setting career-highs in home runs allowed (31) and tying a career-high in earned runs allowed, while ranking first with a franchise-record 25 wild pitches – the most by any Major League pitcher in a single season since the start of the 2000s and the fifth most since 1900.

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....ett-trade/

    The press release goes on to say that AJ had bad breath, farted openly in the clubhouse and was once caught masturbating in the shower.

    • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

      You trickster

  • Cy Pettitte

    Olney – “What the Phillies tried to do last week, sources said today, was trade Joe Blanton for Bobby Abreu, then flip Abreu for Burnett.”

    that would have been interesting.

    • Jesse

      I wish that happened. Oh well. I guess once MLB The Show comes out I can do that, haha.

      • Mattchu12

        Once the Show comes out, I’m trading Teixeira for Montero.

        • Pinstripes in Cali

          You know what’s seriously painful to watch:

          http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......d=17807232

          • Mattchu12

            the Cards win the World Series? It doesn’t bother me, it’ll be us this year.

          • Jesse

            I actually wanted the Cards to win it once the Yanks got knocked out.

          • GardnergoesYardner

            I was rooting for the Cards too, much rather them than the Rangers.

            It’s not that painful, there have been moments ten times as painful in the history of baseball.

          • Kevin

            I could list moments from a World Series ten years earlier that are much,much more painful then that.

      • Greg

        Until The Show comes up with a PC version, I’m staying with 2k12. Despite the differing quality.

        • Thomas Cassidy

          It never will. It’s a Sony game. I’ve always hated 2K12. Stuck with a 360, so I can’t get The Show. I’m pissed that it isn’t out on PS2. I would buy The Show for PS2 every year, even 2011 for PS2. That’s how much I hate the 2K baseball games.

          Here’s to MVP Baseball 2013!

  • Paul VuvuZuvella

    I really don’t want Chavez or Ibanez. Give me the best (in Spring) two of Branyan, Hall, Vazquez, Dickerson, Laird and anyone else in camp. That’s fine until Cash pulls off a depth trade at the All Star break to strenthen the bench. Keep the dollars and sign Soler.

    • ThatstheMelkyMesaWaysa

      Speaking of Soler is anyone even allowed to talk to him yet?

  • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

    I could see Freddy Garcia turning into the Yankee version of Tim Wakefield. A perpetual 4M option that keeps getting renewed as veteran insurance for one of the rotation spots. This year it’s Hughes, next year Betances, then Banuelos, then Campos, etc, etc.

    • GardnergoesYardner

      Suddenly becoming an All Star after toiling in obscurity for many years? (at least, that’s the narrative the Sox fans want you to believe)

      Trying to win his milestone game while pitching one poor outing after another in the midst of an epic collapse, while his manager keeps running him out there despite his poor pitching because if he doesn’t, he’ll get slammed by the ridiculously emotion driven media?

      Being invited back to pitch year after year with no apparent reason from the front office?

      God, I hope he doesn’t become the Yankee Tim Wakefield.

    • hogsmog

      Via Wiki-“Wakefield ended the 2011 season as the Red Sox career leader in innings pitched, games started as a pitcher, home runs allowed, walks allowed, hits allowed, losses, earned runs allowed, wild pitches, hit batsmen, and batters faced.”

      Yes, let’s hope we don’t get a Wakefield.

      • Mattchu12

        There’s value in the innings pitched and games started though. Say what you will about him, Tim Wakefield has been a very solid clog in Boston’s rotation.

        • hogsmog

          I agree, but remember that ‘Innings have value’ doesn’t mean that ‘bad innings have value’. For most of his career, he was a good innings eater. But those last few deathmarch seasons could have been handed over to a kid or a slightly less veteran veteran instead for probably a better outcome and the same or better price.

        • fin

          LOL that was a funny typo as a cog is part of a machine that makes it run, and a clog would be something that stops it from running.

  • Monterowasdinero

    Thinking about a trip out to Oakland for the Mariners/A’s opening games in April. If I go, I will provide an analysis of the Montero-Cespedes clash of the big bats.

  • Nathan

    Has anyone worn #35 since Mussina?

    • Troll Killer

      Nope, not that I know of.

  • Bronx Byte

    Finally No. 35 will be issued to Michael Pineda. With all due respect to Mike Mussina, the number wasn’t on the retirement list.

  • Monterowasdinero

    647 plate appearances for Damon in 2011 for Tampa batting second mostly. He takes alot of pitches, can hit lefties, can run and can reach the porch in right at YS pretty easily. Instead of top of the order, he bats at the bottom of the order for us. Smart baserunner. His quest for 3K is a good thing-not bad. I still like him and think we should negotiate more.

  • Brian Buckley

    Freddy Garcia looks like hes in tip top shape. Jeez, what do they guys do during the offseason?

  • Brian

    The article against the AJ Burnett trade that everyone has been waiting for…or something. http://bit.ly/xR5dFW