Open Thread: 3/24 Camp Notes
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Raul finally showed up to camp today. (AP Photo/Paul Sancya)
The Yankees beat the Tigers 4-2 in ten innings today. Freddy Garcia started for the first time since getting hit in the hand by a comebacker about two weeks ago, and guess what? He got hit by another one [Anthony McCarron]. He stayed in the game though, he’s fine. Freddy allowed just one hit and struck out four in 4.1 IP before reaching his pitch count. D.J. Mitchell was off a bit, walking three and allowing the game-tying runs in the bottom of the ninth. He faced 15 batters and only three of them put the ball on the ground. Atypical.
Raul Ibanez, yes Raul Ibanez hit a two-run homer. It came off Max Scherzer, so not exactly a soft-tosser. Dewayne Wise doubled in two runs in the top of the tenth to give the Yankees the lead. The Yankees only had five hits, a double by Jose Gil and singles by Mark Teixeira and Colin Curtis in addition to Ibanez’s bomb and Wise’s double. Cesar Cabral closed things out with a perfect tenth despite facing three right-handed batters. Here’s the box score and here’s the rest from Tampa…
- CC Sabathia threw his scheduled side session today, but tomorrow’s a big day for side work: Andy Pettitte, Ivan Nova, Hiroki Kuroda, Adam Warren, and Dellin Betances are all scheduled to throw sides while Brad Meyers will throw live batting practice. The Rule 5 Draft pick still hasn’t appeared in a game this spring after hurting his shoulder during offseason workouts. [Chad Jennings]
- David Robertson (foot) is expected to pitch in tomorrow’s game, his first appearance since slipping down the steps a few weeks ago. [Erik Boland]
Here is your open thread for the day. The Rangers, Islanders, Knicks, and Nets are all playing, plus MLB Network will be showing a game later tonight.
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Thanks for the help. I had two guys drop out within the last two days.
Never did a league before… Is there a link to learn how it works, etc.?
Do you know who, in addition to DRob, is pitching tomorrow?
Pineda is starting, I know that much.
Thank you.
Is he the next to be sent down if he isnt throwing 98 tommorow?
Are you referring to Dellin; as he was sent down today. I think his heater tops around 98 as well.
heh i was just joking around. Just reffering to another day of Velocity crapola.
For those that might or might not know … The MLB Network will be broadcasting 30 for 30 featuring the Yankees tonight. Should be phun phancy and phree viewing in all !!
In reference to this Rob Neyer post, I had this thought.
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/3.....p-greatest
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I think looking at players across eras particularly from before the color TV era needs context.
There is the “time machine” comparison that Neyer seems to be using which assumes that players develop, practice, and train exactly as they did and jump in a time machine to play against every player at every time to determine who is best.
The “alternate universe” comparison assumes every player has the same training practices, medical technology, and level of competition since birth as players playing today (or any era.)
Would Babe Ruth have been able to catch up to a Verlander fastball if he hopped in a time machine from 1927? Would he be as legendary if his clone had been born in Southern California in 1977? There are probably two different answers and the distinction needs to be made when discussing such disparate eras.
I think what’s most left out is population disparities in different eras. Babe Ruth only had to be the best out of 50mm people (taking out women and African Americans) domestically whereas someone today has to be the best out of 150mm domestically. That’s not even counting foreign populations. Obviously this is not scientific because of # of teams, # of actual baseball participants, etc… I simplified it because I figured the increase in MLB teams would probably be offset by the number of kids playing in the modern era (i.e. little league, etc…) vs. the Ruthian era.
Put simply, would you expect more anomalies (baseball prodigies or otherwise) in the bigger population or the smaller population? Obviously you’d expect it in the larger sample size. There’d be more “good” players in the larger sample size.
That is, Babe would be facing better competition (and have worse numbers) if you were to magically triple the baseball eligible population in his era. That means you don’t need to sell Libyans pinball parts to come to a reasonable conclusion that numbers pre-WWII are probably skewed in favor of the anomalies (Ruth, Cob, Wagner, etc…).
I don’t know why nobody brings this up.
P.S. I may have had some scotch tonight.
Thank you for my new .sig file.
This also has some interesting parallels to scientists/intellectuals across history. It’s no coincidence that most of them were wealthy nobles- these were the only people who had the time and resources to think about these things. So when we see the ‘great scientists’ cutting swaths across multiple fields (ie Galileo, Newton, even the Greeks), it’s easy to think that there used to be many more ‘geniuses’ than today. But, it’s important to remember that the number of people thinking about these problems was much fewer than now.
Well there are alot more teams now than then. So there are more opportunities to play now. I dont know how many teams there were back then but to lazzy to look it up. I’m pretty sure less than 20.
I think the teams per eligible citizen was much higher back then. The number of teams doubled but the number of people able to play the game more than doubled.
Well done, Mr. Cabral. I have to think he just at least tied himself up with Rapada all things considered.
So your saying you rather take a cab than rap?
Buh dum pishhhhh….
But, come to think of it, yes. Yes I would.
The best part of the game today?
The Yankees as the road team decided to play the 10th inning… wonder if Bobby V will complain about that?
Well Joe did cost his pitcher a chance to make it in the bigs, you know.
I busted on Joba (and rightfully so), but Lupica’s article is just wrong.
He has no clue what he is talking about…near 100, set-up in 2009, Joba rules after the midges, etc. He then goes on to bust Tebow, Melo, etc. while praising Johan’s Spring & wishing on Kentucky because he is a friend of the coach. Amazing hack has to be a amazing Met fan.
The answer is: he’s the biggest Mike Lupica fan in the world. Actually, he grew up a Yankees fan. Be thankful if you don’t live in NY area. His radio show is an hour long high-pitched squealing paen to himself. Disgusting.
I’ve softened on Lupica throughout the years. HATED him in the 80′s, where he could relate any topic you threw at him to how much he hated the Yankees at the time. I don’t mind him now, and actually find the radio show amusing as well as, yes, very high-pitched.
Strident even. And poor Lagreca tossed in to provide some sanity and perspective. And hockey knowledge.
i didnt know that guy still exsisted. When i got out of the NY area, I never hear about him anymore.
*crotch chop*
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