Mar
02

Update: Cashman denies offer to Adonis Garcia

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Friday: Via Bryan Hoch, Brian Cashman said the team has not made an offer to Garcia, nevermind one worth $16M. “That’s not true,” said the GM. We haven’t made an offer.” So that’s that.

Thursday: Via Jorge Ebro (translated article), the Yankees have offered 26-year-old Cuban infielder Adonis Garcia a six-year contract worth $16M. The Athletics offered six years and $18M, and would keep Garcia at shortstop while the Yankees want to move him to the outfield. He could make a decision by next week.

Ben Badler’s scouting report (subs. req’d) from January isn’t exactly glowing. Garcia, a right-handed bat, stands only 5-foot-7, 180 lbs. with “some feel for hitting and surprising power for his size.” He hit .270/.313/.461 during his winter ball stint this offseason, with at least one dramatic homer. Badler says Garcia is “around an average runner” who has played second, short, and third in the past, though he spent most of his winter ball time in left field. Chances are the Yankees caught a glimpse of him this winter and really liked what they saw, but $16M seems a bit excessive.

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League
  • Jerkface

    Yankees cannot be blowing 3 million aav or more on prospects if their goal is to reduce to 189. That money needs to go on the field.

    • All Praise Be To Mo

      What? At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

      • MannyGeee

        Pure awesome.

    • Jesse

      The money needs to go on the field? Like take the money and bury it in the infield? Why not take the money and bury it in right field? Maybe it’ll help Nick Swisher hit in the postseason.

  • Cris Pengiucci

    A’s now denying their in on Garcia. Actually, I just hope the Yankees go after Soler. Seems to have much more upside than this guy.

  • Cris Pengiucci

    A’s now denying they’re in on Garcia. Actually, I just hope the Yankees go after Soler. Seems to have much more upside than this guy.

  • Cy Pettitte

    I find it slightly humorous that the post before this is about the austerity plan.

    • Ted Nelson

      If he can play, paying him $2.7 mill per fits perfectly with the austerity plan…

  • Plank

    5’7″? Have there been any players that short recently? None come to mind.

    • Cy Pettitte

      Pedroia without his lifts

    • Cris Pengiucci

      Pedroia?

      • David Ortiz’s Dealer

        He said players not little turds who kiss up to writers and steal awards rather than play to win.

    • Jesse

      Pedroia, but he could be shorter.

    • Knoxvillain

      Danny Ray Herrera and David Eckstein.

      • Plank

        Ah, good one. Were those off the top of your head, or did you search for them?

        • Knoxvillain

          Actually off the top of my head. I have no clue why I remembered something like that, though.

    • Ted Nelson

      Good number of players in that 5’9″ and under range. Jimmy Rollins, Ray Durham, Furcal, Pudge, Tejada, Victorino, Chone Figgins, Maicer Izturis, Matt Stairs, Mike Aviles, Orlando Cabrera, Brian Roberts.

      I’m sure that some guys who get listed at 5’10” are actually shorter as well.

  • Soriano Is A Liar

    Part of that contract must be paying for his most valuable asset. His name. The dude’s name is Adonis!

    • All Praise Be To Mo

      That’s definitely an 80 name.

      • Preston

        Which means it’s probably not real. Sorry, Fausto Carmona has ruined it for everyone. Now everybody who has a cool name is under suspicion for using NED’s (name enhancing documents). The sad part is most of these kids are probably clean. It just takes a few bad apples to ruin it for everybody.

        • MannyGeee

          Babe Ruth did it on hot dogs….

          (changed his name from Herman, that is)

          • Preston

            His name was George FYI

  • DM

    Hmmm… First the Japanese infielder and now this guy? I have a hunch someone wants Nunez badly. Maybe there’s an OF prospect available via a Nunez trade.

  • Peter R

    mmmmkay????

  • YanksFanInBeantown

    Well if he lives up to his name, they definitely liked what they saw.

    Whether he’s good at baseball is a different story.

  • TheoneWhoknocks

    I really doubt this report is true. This guy isn’t a premier prospect and I don’t think he fits into their $189 plans at that price tag

  • vin

    Was this scheduled to post on April Fools Day? Very odd.

    • CJ

      Agree very strange.

  • Ryan

    Seems smarter to put that money towards Soler.

  • GardnergoesYardner

    Don’t see where this could go for the Yanks. Garcia doesn’t seem like a premier prospect, and for a bit more they could actually get a premier prospect in Soler.

  • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com Eric

    If he could be a viable outfield replacement in 2 years, that could help with the austerity plan. If Granderson walks, he takes over in left and Gardner moves to center. No idea if he’s any good (based on reports Soler sounds more exciting) but I’ll trust the Yankees’ valuation of him. If they’re really offering $16 million, they must like him.

    • CJ

      Doesn’t sound like he has the skill set, position or talent to replace Granderson.

  • Short Porch

    I see this austerity plan is off to a roaring start

  • Chip

    Yeah, this sounds like a possible replacement for Granderson or Swisher

    • JobaWockeeZ

      There is no replacement for Granderson. He’s key for long term. He’s staying. Swisher isn’t nearly as valuable. Corner outfielders are over paid anyways.

      We can live with a glove guy at right unless Teix and ARod delve deeper in decline.

      • http://www.ProjectNeoX.com ProjectNeo

        I don’t think Granderson is part of the long term plan, especially if it comes down to giving a big contract to him or Cano. This kid could be a good pick up to play left field and then have Gardner move to center, or maybe by that time have Mason Williams ready to come up.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          That’s a huge chunk of production that needs to be replaced. This “kid” is already 26 and it’ll take a lot of development to get him to even half of Granderson.

          Mason Williams hasn’t even played a full season at A ball so he’s a complete non factor. And if he’s highly touted there’s a 50/50 chance he’s a goner by trade anyways.

          • Chip

            You aren’t looking to replace it, you’re looking for a low-cost alternative that will give you good value. A Garcia-Gardner-Swisher outfield would be either average or slightly above average offensively and very good defensively for a pretty low price. Then you can go sign Shin-Soo Choo at the end of the season

            • JobaWockeeZ

              Swisher is going to get overpaid. Werth got 100 million dollars, no way Swish gets below 60.

              • Chip

                I don’t think he’ll get 60, I’m thinking more around 40 but Granderson will blow that out of the water if he keeps hitting like he did last season.

                • FIn

                  Eh, Granderson will be 33, I dont think people are going to be lining up to give him a long term deal. He could very well be in the Beltran category of a big 1 or 2 year deal. HE would have to have 2 more MVP caliber seasons to get more than that. I think the odds of that happening are fairly stacked against him.

            • Plank

              Did you just project Garcia’s offensive and defensive output?

              • Chip

                I’m figuring below average offensively and adequate defensively so yes I did :)

          • FIn

            I dont think you can call WIlliams a non factor. When you combine WIlliams, Heathcott, and Santana I think they very well go into the thinking of how the Yankees handle Granderson. Granderson had a career year last year, and doesnt become a FA for 2 more years. There is no reason for the Yankees to extend him this point, with 3 of your best prospects playing his position.
            Granderson could keep up his production and all those guys could flame out, but having them certainly lets the Yankees take the wait and see approach with Granderson.

            • JobaWockeeZ

              Position prospects like Jose Tabata, Ausitn Jackssn and this Jesus Montero guy are non factors to this team. Prospects that have not reached AA are not factors in regards to the major league club unless it’s by trade.

              • JobaWockeeZ

                were* non factors.

              • Steve (different one)

                Jose Tabata and Austin Jackson just aren’t that good. Maybe thats why they were non-factors, even though us fans (myself included) were positive they were going to be stars.

              • FIn

                First off, I think all of those players went into how the Yankees planned for their team and its currently constructed. They developed Austin while not signing another FA outfielder and in the end traded him for a more proven commodity in Granderson. I think we would have seen Jackson in the outfield without that trade. If I remember right they traded Tabata in the Nady deal, again they let him develop and traded him for what they thought was a more proven player.

                It could be argued that the yankees didnt over pay Matsui and Damon becasue they had guys they felt could replace them in the minors or be traded for players that could replace them. I dont know how you can think that the Yankees are so narrow sighted that they dont consider what they have in the minor leagues when making decisions.

      • GardnergoesYardner

        I wouldn’t say that Granderson is key to their long term plans. He is 31 this year, which would make him 33 in the first year of any long term deal. (assuming that his ’13 option gets picked up) His defense should only decline with age, and I doubt that he could reach his 2011 levels again, especially in a few years.

        Their best option is to move Gardy to center and sign a one year stopgap for the corner until Mason Williams is ready. I’m sure they’d love to have someone like Almonte take the other spot, but if not, they could sign someone like Ethier, depending on the cost.

      • Havok9120

        I’m sorry but….if Grandy continues to mash at a pace like last season, there’s no way we’re paying him. And I’ll be glad for it. You’d be getting MAYBE 2 more years of his prime (during/after which he’d probly need to be moved to a corner in favor of Gardner)and probably another….what 4 years (at least) of decline?

        No thank you. I’ll pay some years of Robbie’s decline, but not Robbie AND Granderson.

  • AC

    Never even heard of this guy. If it is true maybe Cashman is looking for low cost options for the upcoming years. 3 mill for 6 yrs is a low cost alternative to paying a FA s boatload of cash.

  • BK2ATL

    $16 million for this guy? This guy is already 26 yo, same as Cespedes. Allegedly. The reports so far on this guy contains a lot of averages….nothing that stands out at all. Not understanding the interest, and at that alleged price.

    What is going on with Jorge Soler??? THAT’S who we really need to spend money on. They’re talking about him as if he’d be BA top-10 prospect. We don’t have any of those in our farm system OF, and after this season, we’ll need one if the reports are true that the Braves will target Nick Swisher.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    If this guy is worth $16 million, what is Soler gonna get $25-30 million?

  • Steve (different one)

    It’s not really funny at all, but whatever

  • FIn

    LOL, really finding it hard to believe that the Yankees are looking to sign this guy at 16mil to replace anyone in the outfield or Nunez. Have the Yankees ever payed anyone to be a 4mil a year bench player? They may have paid guys more that ended up being a bench player.
    Is this guy a Boris client and Heyman is reporting the interst? Seriously, if they do sign him, the Yankees must really see something in him, even then I would guess the signing to be far far less than 16mil.

    • Steve (different one)

      Not trying to be a dick, but $16M over 6 years is $2.6M/year.

      I do agree with you though, I don’t believe this report either.

      • FIn

        My bad, by the time I said something it had turned into 16m for 4 years in my head. Even then it still stretches the imagination. THere would have to be one hell of a follow up trade for Nunez for it to make any sense. Even then, the Yankees would seem to bidding against themselves at some point while getting to 16m. There doesnt seem to be a rush of scouts or teams on this guy.

  • gageagainstthemachine

    Why exactly are my comments being removed? They’re not offensive or amything.

    • Cris Pengiucci

      This one is still here.

    • Havok9120

      The internet (and Mike) hate you.

      I don’t blame them.

      (And no, I don’t know anything about you or your comments)

      • gageagainstthemachine

        thanks?!

        it was a comment about AJ’s blood gushing eye…whatever…just another comment on a blog…why should I really care? :)

        • Jesse

          Well, it’s off-topic, so I don’t blame them. Doesn’t make you a bad person, though. It’s just that those are the rules.

        • Havok9120

          Yeah, if you repost it in the Open Thread you’d be totally fine. =)

  • Dropped Third

    Ahhhh 5’7 180Lbs a man of my own build lol

    • Cris Pengiucci

      You willing to sign for less? Maybe there’s a contract there for you. For a mere 33%, I’ll represent you. :-)

      • Eirias

        Done. You get me a contract with the Yankees, I’ll give you 33%. Happily.

  • Havok9120

    I see the loss of Burt Reynolds has really hurt the system. This is clearly a desperate attempt to regain our superiority in the realm of awesome names.

  • Gonzo

    Eh, ~$2.7mm a year for a super utility guy isn’t too bad. If he’s not a mlb player, that’s a lot of years though. I’ll hope for the best either way.

  • Siromaniyon

    Here is a infomation about him.
    http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%.....7%E3%82%A2

  • GardnergoesYardner

    Figures that it wasn’t true. Cash wouldn’t be that dumb. 16 mil is what he might pay IF Garcia was younger and projected better.

    Oh well, back to the austerity budget…

  • Januz

    The rumor was probably put out there by his agent for the express intent of jacking up the price by throwing the name “Yankees” in there. If so, what he was actually doing is playing Scott Boras wannabee (At least Boras is good at what he does, and on occasion is truthful about the “Mystery Team.”). Of course, Cashman shot down that rumor real quick, so it is back to the drawing board.

  • RetroRob

    I was going to post this yesterday when I first saw sotry, but the offer was way too specific to be true. The Yankees operate as much as they can in stealth mode, so it didn’t make sense that the total dollar amount, years, and the position the Yankees wanted him to play was out there.