Mar
02

Update: Cashman denies offer to Adonis Garcia

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Friday: Via Bryan Hoch, Brian Cashman said the team has not made an offer to Garcia, nevermind one worth $16M. “That’s not true,” said the GM. We haven’t made an offer.” So that’s that.

Thursday: Via Jorge Ebro (translated article), the Yankees have offered 26-year-old Cuban infielder Adonis Garcia a six-year contract worth $16M. The Athletics offered six years and $18M, and would keep Garcia at shortstop while the Yankees want to move him to the outfield. He could make a decision by next week.

Ben Badler’s scouting report (subs. req’d) from January isn’t exactly glowing. Garcia, a right-handed bat, stands only 5-foot-7, 180 lbs. with “some feel for hitting and surprising power for his size.” He hit .270/.313/.461 during his winter ball stint this offseason, with at least one dramatic homer. Badler says Garcia is “around an average runner” who has played second, short, and third in the past, though he spent most of his winter ball time in left field. Chances are the Yankees caught a glimpse of him this winter and really liked what they saw, but $16M seems a bit excessive.

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League

72 Comments»

  1. Jerkface says:

    Yankees cannot be blowing 3 million aav or more on prospects if their goal is to reduce to 189. That money needs to go on the field.

    • All Praise Be To Mo says:

      What? At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

    • Jesse says:

      The money needs to go on the field? Like take the money and bury it in the infield? Why not take the money and bury it in right field? Maybe it’ll help Nick Swisher hit in the postseason.

  2. Cris Pengiucci says:

    A’s now denying their in on Garcia. Actually, I just hope the Yankees go after Soler. Seems to have much more upside than this guy.

  3. Cris Pengiucci says:

    A’s now denying they’re in on Garcia. Actually, I just hope the Yankees go after Soler. Seems to have much more upside than this guy.

  4. Cy Pettitte says:

    I find it slightly humorous that the post before this is about the austerity plan.

  5. Plank says:

    5’7″? Have there been any players that short recently? None come to mind.

  6. Soriano Is A Liar says:

    Part of that contract must be paying for his most valuable asset. His name. The dude’s name is Adonis!

    • All Praise Be To Mo says:

      That’s definitely an 80 name.

      • Preston says:

        Which means it’s probably not real. Sorry, Fausto Carmona has ruined it for everyone. Now everybody who has a cool name is under suspicion for using NED’s (name enhancing documents). The sad part is most of these kids are probably clean. It just takes a few bad apples to ruin it for everybody.

  7. DM says:

    Hmmm… First the Japanese infielder and now this guy? I have a hunch someone wants Nunez badly. Maybe there’s an OF prospect available via a Nunez trade.

  8. Peter R says:

    mmmmkay????

  9. YanksFanInBeantown says:

    Well if he lives up to his name, they definitely liked what they saw.

    Whether he’s good at baseball is a different story.

  10. TheoneWhoknocks says:

    I really doubt this report is true. This guy isn’t a premier prospect and I don’t think he fits into their $189 plans at that price tag

  11. vin says:

    Was this scheduled to post on April Fools Day? Very odd.

  12. Ryan says:

    Seems smarter to put that money towards Soler.

  13. GardnergoesYardner says:

    Don’t see where this could go for the Yanks. Garcia doesn’t seem like a premier prospect, and for a bit more they could actually get a premier prospect in Soler.

  14. Eric says:

    If he could be a viable outfield replacement in 2 years, that could help with the austerity plan. If Granderson walks, he takes over in left and Gardner moves to center. No idea if he’s any good (based on reports Soler sounds more exciting) but I’ll trust the Yankees’ valuation of him. If they’re really offering $16 million, they must like him.

  15. Short Porch says:

    I see this austerity plan is off to a roaring start

  16. Chip says:

    Yeah, this sounds like a possible replacement for Granderson or Swisher

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      There is no replacement for Granderson. He’s key for long term. He’s staying. Swisher isn’t nearly as valuable. Corner outfielders are over paid anyways.

      We can live with a glove guy at right unless Teix and ARod delve deeper in decline.

      • ProjectNeo says:

        I don’t think Granderson is part of the long term plan, especially if it comes down to giving a big contract to him or Cano. This kid could be a good pick up to play left field and then have Gardner move to center, or maybe by that time have Mason Williams ready to come up.

        • JobaWockeeZ says:

          That’s a huge chunk of production that needs to be replaced. This “kid” is already 26 and it’ll take a lot of development to get him to even half of Granderson.

          Mason Williams hasn’t even played a full season at A ball so he’s a complete non factor. And if he’s highly touted there’s a 50/50 chance he’s a goner by trade anyways.

          • Chip says:

            You aren’t looking to replace it, you’re looking for a low-cost alternative that will give you good value. A Garcia-Gardner-Swisher outfield would be either average or slightly above average offensively and very good defensively for a pretty low price. Then you can go sign Shin-Soo Choo at the end of the season

            • JobaWockeeZ says:

              Swisher is going to get overpaid. Werth got 100 million dollars, no way Swish gets below 60.

              • Chip says:

                I don’t think he’ll get 60, I’m thinking more around 40 but Granderson will blow that out of the water if he keeps hitting like he did last season.

                • FIn says:

                  Eh, Granderson will be 33, I dont think people are going to be lining up to give him a long term deal. He could very well be in the Beltran category of a big 1 or 2 year deal. HE would have to have 2 more MVP caliber seasons to get more than that. I think the odds of that happening are fairly stacked against him.

            • Plank says:

              Did you just project Garcia’s offensive and defensive output?

          • FIn says:

            I dont think you can call WIlliams a non factor. When you combine WIlliams, Heathcott, and Santana I think they very well go into the thinking of how the Yankees handle Granderson. Granderson had a career year last year, and doesnt become a FA for 2 more years. There is no reason for the Yankees to extend him this point, with 3 of your best prospects playing his position.
            Granderson could keep up his production and all those guys could flame out, but having them certainly lets the Yankees take the wait and see approach with Granderson.

            • JobaWockeeZ says:

              Position prospects like Jose Tabata, Ausitn Jackssn and this Jesus Montero guy are non factors to this team. Prospects that have not reached AA are not factors in regards to the major league club unless it’s by trade.

              • JobaWockeeZ says:

                were* non factors.

              • Steve (different one) says:

                Jose Tabata and Austin Jackson just aren’t that good. Maybe thats why they were non-factors, even though us fans (myself included) were positive they were going to be stars.

              • FIn says:

                First off, I think all of those players went into how the Yankees planned for their team and its currently constructed. They developed Austin while not signing another FA outfielder and in the end traded him for a more proven commodity in Granderson. I think we would have seen Jackson in the outfield without that trade. If I remember right they traded Tabata in the Nady deal, again they let him develop and traded him for what they thought was a more proven player.

                It could be argued that the yankees didnt over pay Matsui and Damon becasue they had guys they felt could replace them in the minors or be traded for players that could replace them. I dont know how you can think that the Yankees are so narrow sighted that they dont consider what they have in the minor leagues when making decisions.

      • GardnergoesYardner says:

        I wouldn’t say that Granderson is key to their long term plans. He is 31 this year, which would make him 33 in the first year of any long term deal. (assuming that his ’13 option gets picked up) His defense should only decline with age, and I doubt that he could reach his 2011 levels again, especially in a few years.

        Their best option is to move Gardy to center and sign a one year stopgap for the corner until Mason Williams is ready. I’m sure they’d love to have someone like Almonte take the other spot, but if not, they could sign someone like Ethier, depending on the cost.

      • Havok9120 says:

        I’m sorry but….if Grandy continues to mash at a pace like last season, there’s no way we’re paying him. And I’ll be glad for it. You’d be getting MAYBE 2 more years of his prime (during/after which he’d probly need to be moved to a corner in favor of Gardner)and probably another….what 4 years (at least) of decline?

        No thank you. I’ll pay some years of Robbie’s decline, but not Robbie AND Granderson.

  17. AC says:

    Never even heard of this guy. If it is true maybe Cashman is looking for low cost options for the upcoming years. 3 mill for 6 yrs is a low cost alternative to paying a FA s boatload of cash.

  18. BK2ATL says:

    $16 million for this guy? This guy is already 26 yo, same as Cespedes. Allegedly. The reports so far on this guy contains a lot of averages….nothing that stands out at all. Not understanding the interest, and at that alleged price.

    What is going on with Jorge Soler??? THAT’S who we really need to spend money on. They’re talking about him as if he’d be BA top-10 prospect. We don’t have any of those in our farm system OF, and after this season, we’ll need one if the reports are true that the Braves will target Nick Swisher.

  19. Manny's BanWagon says:

    If this guy is worth $16 million, what is Soler gonna get $25-30 million?

  20. Steve (different one) says:

    It’s not really funny at all, but whatever

  21. FIn says:

    LOL, really finding it hard to believe that the Yankees are looking to sign this guy at 16mil to replace anyone in the outfield or Nunez. Have the Yankees ever payed anyone to be a 4mil a year bench player? They may have paid guys more that ended up being a bench player.
    Is this guy a Boris client and Heyman is reporting the interst? Seriously, if they do sign him, the Yankees must really see something in him, even then I would guess the signing to be far far less than 16mil.

    • Steve (different one) says:

      Not trying to be a dick, but $16M over 6 years is $2.6M/year.

      I do agree with you though, I don’t believe this report either.

      • FIn says:

        My bad, by the time I said something it had turned into 16m for 4 years in my head. Even then it still stretches the imagination. THere would have to be one hell of a follow up trade for Nunez for it to make any sense. Even then, the Yankees would seem to bidding against themselves at some point while getting to 16m. There doesnt seem to be a rush of scouts or teams on this guy.

  22. gageagainstthemachine says:

    Why exactly are my comments being removed? They’re not offensive or amything.

  23. Dropped Third says:

    Ahhhh 5’7 180Lbs a man of my own build lol

  24. Havok9120 says:

    I see the loss of Burt Reynolds has really hurt the system. This is clearly a desperate attempt to regain our superiority in the realm of awesome names.

  25. Gonzo says:

    Eh, ~$2.7mm a year for a super utility guy isn’t too bad. If he’s not a mlb player, that’s a lot of years though. I’ll hope for the best either way.

  26. Siromaniyon says:

    Here is a infomation about him.
    http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%.....7%E3%82%A2

  27. GardnergoesYardner says:

    Figures that it wasn’t true. Cash wouldn’t be that dumb. 16 mil is what he might pay IF Garcia was younger and projected better.

    Oh well, back to the austerity budget…

  28. Januz says:

    The rumor was probably put out there by his agent for the express intent of jacking up the price by throwing the name “Yankees” in there. If so, what he was actually doing is playing Scott Boras wannabee (At least Boras is good at what he does, and on occasion is truthful about the “Mystery Team.”). Of course, Cashman shot down that rumor real quick, so it is back to the drawing board.

  29. RetroRob says:

    I was going to post this yesterday when I first saw sotry, but the offer was way too specific to be true. The Yankees operate as much as they can in stealth mode, so it didn’t make sense that the total dollar amount, years, and the position the Yankees wanted him to play was out there.

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