Betances wild again; Charleston walks off with eighth straight win

Rainy Sunday Night Open Thread
Rain out sets up pitching staff for Texas series
Eduardo Sosa and Kelvin Castro of the High-A Tampa Yankees. (Photo via Katherine Mitchell)

Josh Norris recently sat down for a long chat with pitching coordinator Nardi Contreras, who spoke about the Triple-A arms, Jose Campos, promotions, and much more. Make sure you check it out.

Triple-A Empire State (6-5 win over Norfolk)
CF Colin Curtis & C Craig Tatum: both 0-4 — Curtis walked, Tatum whiffed
2B Jayson Nix: 2-4, 2 R, 2 2B, 1 BB, 1 K — first game of the season after spending some time on the DL
RF Dewayne Wise: 2-5, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI — 13 for his last 29 (.448) with five doubles and a homer
1B Steve Pearce: 2-3, 1 R, 2 2B, 1 RBI, 2 BB, 1 K — 12 for his last 27 (.444) with five doubles and a homer
DH Jack Cust: 2-4, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 HR, 3 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K — first homer of the season
3B Brandon Laird: 1-3, 1 BB, 1 SB
LF Kevin Russo: 0-3, 1 BB, 1 K
SS Ramiro Pena: 2-4, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 E (throwing)
RHP Dellin Betances: 4.1 IP, 3 H, 5 R, 2 ER, 6 BB, 3 K, 1 WP, 1 Balk, 3/3 GB/FB, 1 E (throwing) — 36 of 59 pitches were strikes (51.0%) … he walked two of the first three batters he faced and the two final batters he faced with two walks to 19 batters in between … that’s a dozen walks in eight innings across his last two starts
RHP Nelson Figueroa: 2.2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 0 K, 3/3 GB/FB — 22 of 34 pitches were strikes (64.8%)
RHP Chase Whitley: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 0 K, 0/2 GB/FB — half of his 18 pitches were strikes
RHP Kevin Whelan: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K — eight of 11 pitches were strikes

High-A Tampa (6-4 win over Dunedin)
CF Eduardo Sosa: 2-4, 1 RBI, 1 K, 1 SB — nine hits in his last 23 at-bats (.391)
DH Kelvin Castro: 1-1, 1 R, 2 BB, 1 SB
LF Ramon Flores, SS Jose Mojica & C Hector Rabago: all 0-4 — Mojica drove in a run … Rabago struck out
3B Rob Segedin: 1-3, 2 R, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 1 BB — first game at third base this season
1B Kyle Roller: 1-2, 1 R, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 2 BB, 1 K
RF Shane Brown: 0-3, 1 BB
2B Jose Toussen: 1-3, 2 R, 1 3B, 1 RBI
LHP Nik Turley: 5.1 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 4 BB, 7 K, 5/3 GB/FB — 27/9 K/BB in 23.1 IP … his worst start of the season and it’s not even that bad
RHP Joel DeLaCruz: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, 2/1 GB/FB
RHP Mark Montgomery: 2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 4/0 GB/FB — hoping he has more multi-inning appearances in the future, this was only his second two-inning outing in six appearances this year

Low-A Charleston (4-3 win over West Virginia, walk-off style) scored all four runs in the bottom of the ninth
2B Anderson Feliz: 1-4, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 SB — ten for his last 32 (.313)
CF Ben Gamel: 1-4, 1 RBI, 2 K, 1 CS — walk-off sac fly
3B Dante Bichette Jr.: 0-4
RF Tyler Austin: 1-4, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 1 K — his solo homer in the ninth got the rally started and also extended his hitting streak to 13 games
DH Gary Sanchez: 1-3, 1 R, 1 BB
1B Casey Stevenson: 2-3, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI
SS Cito Culver: 1-3, 1 R, 1 HBP — scored the winning run … six for his last 22 (.273), which is better than what he had been doing
LF Kelvin DeLeon: 1-4, 2 K, 1 E (fielding)
C Francisco Arcia: 1-4, 2 RBI, 1 PB
RHP Jose Campos: 6 IP, 8 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 8/1 GB/FB — 61 of 88 pitches were strikes (69.3%) … 23/5 K/BB in 22 IP
LHP Dan Mahoney: 1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K — 13 of 21 pitches were strikes (61.9%)
LHP Fred Lewis: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 1/0 GB/FB — ten of 12 pitches were strikes
RHP Mariel Checo: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 0/1 GB/FB — only six of 13 pitches were strikes

Double-A Trenton was rained out, as was the second game of Triple-A Empire State‘s doubleheader. No makeup dates have been announced.

Rainy Sunday Night Open Thread
Rain out sets up pitching staff for Texas series
  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Joel DeLaCruz up from EST for the Tampa Yankees. I love when the org. does that.

  • Rebecca

    Campos gave up two runs?! BUST

    • Paul VuvuZuvella

      Damn Cashman got screwed on that trade.

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Q: Did you see Campos at all?

    A: I saw him in spring training. He’s a guy that, when we make changes, he’ll probably go to Tampa, when Turley or Nuding or both or whatever we’ve got going there (come to Trenton).

    "Yikes" is a word that comes to mind.

    • Mike Axisa

      Doesn’t he mean make roster changes? That’s how I read it given the rest of the sentence.

      • Andy In Sunny Daytona

        Oh, I hope that’s exactly what it means. I hope it’s not, “We’re scrapping the curve ball for a slider, get him to throw more cutters, etc…”

        • Samuel

          Axisa is definitely right on that. Nardi likely meant roster changes I’m 100% sure…well 98%.

          Yankees don’t usually do too much with players until they got TO Tampa.

          • Matt

            Yeah because the question before was about how Turley and Nuding are guys that could move up this season.

    • Josh Norris

      Yes. Roster changes is what he meant.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    The lack of control by Betances and Banuelos is really frustrating. Hopefully, they’ll get their shit together

    • BK2ATL

      Betances has always struggled with his control. Banuelos just started having these control issues over the past year. Not sure what gives with this at AAA right now, but not encouraging. Hope they can both turn it around and very soon.

      I was hoping to see Banuelos battle for a rotation spot in 2013, but luckily we have Phelps showing us that he might be ready to battle, as well as Warren and Mitchell.

      My Betances hopes only can go as far as his control and command goes. Lately, not much to write home about. 6 more BBs today in under 5 innings. Just not good.

    • YankeesJunkie

      Banuelos, had back problems, that might have affected his control this year.

    • DM

      Banuelos control problems aren’t like Betances control problems.

    • Jesse

      I’ve lost a lot of patience with Betances. I think Banuelos will right the ship… At least I hope so.

  • Samuel

    When you guys get really wild where they can’t find the plate, let them throw the ball down the middle every pitch and let them get the feel of actually throwing strikes, even though they might get knocked around.

    Strikes first, then location. I know its at Triple A now, but never too late to start over.

  • Reggie C.

    Its either a rough stretch for Betances or the command has actually deteriorated from last season and isn’t coming back. Betances was never lauded for his athleticism and that’s one of the big reasons scouts saw consistency as an issue that would plague Betances. I’m not even sure Betances is going to get out of the minors.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      He’s got the stuff to get out of the minors. The question is as what. Still rooting for him, obviously.

      • Steve S.

        Yeah, he’ll have every chance to fail as a starter before getting a look out of the pen. Most scouts have long believed that’s where he’d wind up.

    • byusk13

      Just think if we gave up Montero,Noesi,Banuelos and Betances we could jave probably gotten King Felix

      • Steve (different one)

        I’m pretty sure I remember reading that’s what they tried to do, the Mariners refused and it eventually led to the Pineda trade.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          Reportedly the only Felix discussions was Cashman asking availability with a response of no form Jack Z.

    • Ted Nelson

      When he was K’ing 10/9 last season the walks were less of a problem, especially if he was heading for the pen. Something’s got to be wrong, hopefully something minor he figures out quickly.

    • Jesse

      I believe Betances’ future is as a reliever in the majors, but I’m sure the Yankees will let this all play out.

  • Karl Krawfid

    A-Rod and Jeter in the Photo. Nice.

  • CJ

    Who is the empire state pitching coach? Banuelos hurt and Betances a mess. AAA may not be the place for them too much travel no home club house/ training room. That chaotic team without a home really isn’t conducive to grooming top prospects.

    • YankeeDave

      Scott Aldred. Don’t know much about him, but I agree that things are suspect.

      • YankeeDave

        FYI, from Wikipedia:
        Aldred was the pitching coach of the New York Yankees’ Double-A affiliate, the Trenton Thunder, in 2007 and 2008. Since 2009, he has been the pitching coach of the Yankees’ Triple-A affiliate, the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees

    • Ted Nelson

      A lot of pitchers get hurt. It’s a pretty big stretch to put an injury on the coach without any specific reason.

    • viridiana

      Also may be a case of too much meddling. Changing mechanics and repertoire for prospects who are largely effective — even with some limitations — is a risky game. I’m beginning to wonder if Yankees meddle too much woith their top pitching prospects.

  • TrentonGator

    Who is doing the math here? 36 of 59 is not 51%, it is 70%.

    • NYinTX

      Who’s doing the math indeed. It’s barely over 60% not 70. D’oh!

      • JMK

        You guys should do the math and demand a refund!

  • Skip

    I just moved to North Carolina – and the first thing I did today was buy tickets to the Charleston River Dogs games when they play at Greensboro in June. I only hope the big prospects are still there, i.e. Williams, Bichette, Sanchez, Austin. It could either be really awesome or backfire in a huge way for me.

    • YankeesJunkie

      I would assume that Bichette and Williams will be in Charleston at the very least since they are so young still.

  • The Moral Majority is Neither

    Wild pitch, balk, throwing error plus all the walks. Please don’t turn into Brackman 2.0.

  • byusk13

    Banuelos,Noesi,Montero and Betances probably would have gotten us King Felix

    • Steve (different one)

      Saying it twice doesn’t make it true.

    • Rainbow connection

      Then we’d have a real ace.

    • Ted Nelson

      Not so sure. Ms have plenty of P prospects.

      • Jesse

        Walker, Hultzen, and Paxton, just to name a few.

        • Ted Nelson

          Plus they’d still have Pineda on their roster in the scenario where they trade Felix to the Yankees over the off-season.

    • Jesse

      Cashman offered a king’s ransom (no pun intended) before acquiring Pineda to get King Felix. Essentially Cashman was going after the King to start with, but he “settled” with Pineda.

  • James W.

    Mike, any chance Dewayne Wise joins the team while Gardner’s on the DL?

    • Havok9120

      They want the pitching depth for now. I don’t blame them with this stretch. With this off day breaking up the schedule tho, I could see them making a change earlier than they planned (whenever that is).

    • RetroRob

      Unlikely. He was added for depth reasons and the Yankees’ desire to keep that depth will probably keep him in AAA. If they called him up, they would then have to expose him to waivers to get him sent back to AAA once Gardner returns, which means they might lose him. So it probably would take one of the Yankees OFers suffering an Ellsbury-like injury where they’d be out for a couple of months to get Wise called up.

      • Jesse

        Makes sense. I was wondering the same thing.

      • Ted Nelson

        I agree, but another question is his opt-out date. As that gets closer they might lose him anyway.

  • Greg Golson

    Can I start it? Charleston: #toomanyhomers #trollolol

    • Monterowasdinero

      Greg-where are you now?

  • Eirias

    Given that so many major league teams shift their pitchers from throwing sliders to curveballs, why don’t more MLB-focused HS and college pitchers throw curves to reach the majors faster? Is the slider so much more effective against lower levels of competition that the increases in positive stat rate outweigh a more MLB-ready pitch portfolio?

    • Havok9120

      It doesn’t usually have to do with stats or scouting. They could just be better at throwing a slider. Not everything in life can be taught, and certainly not by coaching staffs at those levels. If a guy throws a better natural slider than a curveball, that’s what he’s going to develop.

  • Steve S.

    I’m willing to give Dellin some more time. Weather sucks, and when its cold it takes longer to get loose and/or find a rhythm. Different mound every outing. If he’s starting out badly and finding a groove later, I’ll take it for now.

  • Jimmy McNulty

    Shut down the website, you’re not improving after that picture.

    • yankee blue

      seems like the killer b’s are killer busts. we continue to over rate our pitching prospects

      • Ted Nelson

        Banuelos is on the DL… not done.

        Prospects generally don’t work out. If you thought all 3 would work out, then yes you were overrating them. That’s not a Yankees specific thing. It’s a general rule.

  • Bavarian Yankee

    am I the only one who thinks that Betances will just be another Jose Veras?

  • SRB

    What is the status of Heathcott?