Game 18: Rubber Game


(AP Photo/Bill Kostroun)

They say everything is bigger in Texas, and the Yankees are going to need Phil Hughes to come up big if they want to walk away with a series win. The matchup with Scott Feldman screams barn burner, but these things never seem to go according to plan. I wouldn’t be surprised if this one ended up low-scoring and close right until the final out. All I know is that I could really use a win tonight. Here’s the lineup…

SS Derek Jeter
CF Curtis Granderson
3B Alex Rodriguez
2B Robinson Cano
1B Mark Teixeira
RF Nick Swisher
LF Raul Ibanez
DH Eric Chavez
Russell Martin

RHP Phil Hughes

Tonight’s game starts a little after 8pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Stories


  1. GardnergoesYardner says:

    I have a feeling that this thread will be a massive spillover of Pineda and Cash haters.

    Preparing myself for the storm…

  2. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    Win it for Michael.

  3. Manny's BanWagon says:

    I thought today’s game was cancelled to mourn Pineda’s injury?

  4. Robinson Tilapia says:

    *Summons up energy*


    It’s a dirty job…

  5. MikedJones says:

    Pineda is never throwing a pitch for the yanks. Cant believe Cashman gave away the best Yankee prospect I’ve ever seen.

  6. Matt DiBari says:

    This would be a poor night for Phil Hughes to continue the nonsense he’s put on for the last damn near two years.

    If only for one night, Phil, pitch competently

  7. Manny's BanWagon says:

    I feel like I dumped my super hot girlfriend for an even hotter girl only to find out that her vagina is broken and unusable for at least a year.

  8. Electric Nunez aka the shocker says:

    But we still have campos who will be the guy er Right.

  9. GardnergoesYardner says:

    How bad is Crawford’s injury? Could it be the season?

    And to think that people actually wanted HIM on our team. Thank Mo that didn’t pan out.

  10. Clyde Barrow says:

    Jesus 1-1 with a ribbie. At least we have Pineda who won’t throw a pitch for us this year. Could use a DH right about now to replace Raul.

  11. JobaWockeeZ says:

    The last thread is just proof of how hard it is for people to just ignore what they don’t like. I don’t know where the notion comes from that the comments are a place for discussion when every other poster has to be degraded for some reason.

    Someone calls people moronic which just isn’t fallacious but against the rules yet this person gets applauded.

    • Heisenberg says:

      If people ignored what they don’t like, there wouldn’t have been any comments in the last thread.

      • aRX says:

        …and you say that like that’s a bad thing. Honestly, it’s as if people think they just HAVE TO respond to every overreacting, emotional comment they don’t like, as if they have to defend RABs honor or something.

  12. Chris A says:

    We could all use a win tonight, I’ve been depressed all day

  13. ShouchBant says:

    I wonder how Red Sox fans are feeling about the Carl Crawford signing. Sounds like he’s heading for the chopping block with Dr. James Andrews.

  14. Jamey says:

    Every time I read “RHP Phil Hughes” I see “RIP Phil Hughes”.

  15. Plank says:

    I just woke up and read all the stories and comments from the past 8 hours. Even without the Pineda news, the tone around here is really dark. Yikes. Everyone is at each other’s throats.

  16. mustang says:

    Montero single to right for an RBI and also has a passed ball.

    right cue… too funny

    • forensic says:

      The passed ball was pretty bad, right off the glove. Has made a couple nice blocks on breakers in the dirt though.

    • DM says:

      He just heard the Pineda news — so he’s not going to bother working on improving his defense any longer.

      • mustang says:

        Guess your right because just single again 2 for 2….lol.

        Why do a feel like he is going to go 5 for 5 with 2 HR.

        If he does I’m going to avoid tomorrow open thread.

        • DM says:

          That’s b/c it’s a rookie-ish Adam Wilk — a small control lefty who Montero has probably faced many times. His other big game was against Tommy Milone another limited experience lefty. He does well against his old AAA peers.

          • mustang says:

            Your right but you know how some here will take it.

            Look he going to Babe Ruth……

            We should hang Cashman …….

            • JobaWockeeZ says:

              It’s funny because it’s also a foregone conclusion that Pineda will win multiple Cy Youngs.

              • Needed Pitching says:

                foregone conclusion for who??
                haven’t seen anyone say anything like that about Pineda here. The highest praise I’ve seen for Pineda here is that he has (maybe had is more appropriate now) ace potential IF he continued to develop.
                I have seen many assume Montero is a lock to be the next Cabrera though.

              • mustang says:

                I don’t think I ever said that if your referring me and to be honest your one the first I seen to come up with that line.

                The logical people here will take a wait and see path.

  17. aRX says:

    Today’s news sucked. Last night’s game sucked.

    So…please go out there and kill them? None of this 1-run, exciting game bullshit, just flat-out murder them by at least 10.

  18. So…drinking game. Drink every time any broadcaster mentions Pineda.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      I preemptively drank the night we got Pineda. I couldn’t care less now, a young pitcher getting hurt?! Total shocker. I got that out of my system early.

    • flamingo says:

      Uh, wow. Tonight’s not a good night for the Yankees, is it.

      Let’s scrape out a win and get out of Texas.

  19. Nom Chompsky says:

    It’s hard for me to believe that people are so very reactionary about this trade, considering how excellent the offense has been (league leading .366 wOBA, 129 wRC+, .838 OPS), and how lackluster the starters have been.

    Even if it was uneven at the time, Cashman dealt from a position of strength to address a position of weakness. If the Yankees want to get young, elite, cost-controlled pitching, they had to give up something of value, and accept the risk inherent in that sort of player.

    • TomH says:

      Chompskyans are so political. Objections to the trade are “reactionary.” Is support for them, then, “progressive”?

      • Nom Chompsky says:

        I would characterize any sort of knee-jerk response that doesn’t consider context as “reactionary.”

        • TomH says:

          Yep, as I was saying: “political.” In any case very few of the objections to the trade have been indifferent to context. The best of them understand the relevant features of “context” differently. “Context” is not a given: it’s a construction.

          (“Knee-jerk,” begs the question.)

  20. Paul VuvuZuvella says:

    Well that last thread was a hoot … Let’s go Jeet.

  21. JobaWockeeZ says:

    I’m surprised there isn’t an obligatory fuck the Mariner’s post that should have made the Yankees the best rotation for 3 months. Which is 3 more months than we’re going to get in the near future.

  22. Cy Pettitte says:

    DJ4K in about a month.

  23. Who's Your Daddy? says:

    I still think the trade was a good move; it was a trade for the future, not just for 2012 obviously, and I don’t know how damaging this type of injury is, but hopefully Pineda will come back and be as capable as he was before. You obviously can’t patch a rotation together with Garcia and Colon types forever, and Pineda seems like he’ll be that backbone that’s needed… hopefully. Also I assume Andy will only be back for this year and maybe if he does super well he’ll be back for next year, but no more than that, so Pineda is still crucial and hopefully he’ll bounce back. As everybody says, you can still buy bats but it seems like it’s getting harder to buy pitchers.

    Anyway, let’s do this! I say Jeter gets three hits today.

  24. I'm sexy and I Cano it says:


  25. GardnergoesYardner says:

    It’s gotten kind of ridiculous how much the Yankees’ broadcasters have praised Derek this year. I mean, I know he’s been amazing this year, but when he struggles Kay and co. turn the other way, and now they practically scream every time he gets a hit. Not saying he’s a bad player (he’s obviously been the best on the team), but the praise for him seems so forced sometimes.

  26. Ok guys, it’s time to play the game on the field. Can we just forget about the sad Pineda news for the next 3-4 hours?

  27. karcotte says:

    Jeter should bat 9th.

  28. forensic says:

    Granderson has a 2.575 OPS against Feldman. I love 10PA stat lines.

    • forensic says:

      Of course.

      • Greg says:

        Even though they are winning, the Yankees are really not hitting on all cylinders.
        Cano is struggling, the starting pitching has been iffy,

        Not to mention Banuelos and Betances are struggling in the minors. There’s that inability again to develop quality starters.

  29. Haha, they still really hate Alex in Texas, huh?

  30. Plank says:

    I’m off to take my morning constitutional. Hopefully Hughes won’t have given up too many runs in his 3.2 IP and the game will still be winnable by the time I get back.

  31. Nom Chompsky says:

    I know he’s just on the right side of variance right now, but it’s really nice to see Jeter get off to a great start.

    He’s already got through about an eighth of his season, and his stats are so overwhelmingly good that they’ll skew his end of season numbers by themselves.

  32. Robinson Tilapia says:

    And here’s every Asian in attendance being shown on screen again.

  33. Cy Pettitte says:

    Jete looked out

  34. RetroRob says:

    I’ve been to Arlington, Texas. Do not fly around the world to take your vacation in Arlington, Texas.

  35. karcotte says:

    I love Tim McClelland’s heart.

  36. Wow…after jeets gets on, two Ks and a first pitch out. that makes me sad.

  37. Karl Krawfid says:

    A-Rod and Cano are useless thus far.

  38. RetroRob says:

    It’s important Phil does well tonight. He’s auditioning to keep his spot in the May, 2013 Yankees rotation.

  39. Karl Krawfid says:

    Phil needs to realize that his fastball is not his put away pitch.

    His curve ball will not become one if he doesn’t use it.

  40. Greg says:

    It is now important that Banuelos and Betances do well and develop properly. Otherwise, Cashman is always going to have that inability to develop quality starting pitching on his back

  41. jjyank says:

    ‘Atta boy Hughes. Keep it going.

  42. Sterling just said that Hamilton was a top 5 player in baseball. Who else would you put in that 5?

  43. Karl Krawfid says:

    Atta boy dude

  44. Clyde Barrow says:

    5 more like that and Phil will be just fine. Texas is his comfort zone.

  45. I'm sexy and I Cano it says:

    Great first inning.

  46. Cy Pettitte says:

    that’s not Phil Hughes, that’s Michael Pineda in whiteface.

  47. jjyank says:

    Good first inning.

  48. Robinson Tilapia says:

    By the power of Greyskull, Phil Phucking Hughes has figured it out!

  49. Karl Krawfid says:


  50. Mike Axisa says:

    Tex beats the shift. I must be dreaming.

  51. RetroRob says:

    Holy, crap. What was that, Tex?

  52. jjyank says:

    Oppo field hit for LHB Tex! Awesome.

  53. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    Tex going the other way!!

  54. Brandon says:

    Good inning by Phil. He needed to start off good like that. But he needs to get the ball down. All the fastballs were high in the zone. If they swung at them, they would’ve been hit.

  55. Robinson Tilapia says:

    I’m glad Tex has become less arrogant now.

  56. Clyde Barrow says:

    Phil gets a 1-2-3 inning and now Teix hits the other way. What the hell is going on?

  57. Greg says:

    Mark has really made an effort to go the other way this year. Me like

  58. I'm sexy and I Cano it says:

    Yup, the world is gonna end.

  59. jon says:

    greatest single of all time

  60. Cy Pettitte says:

    Teix y u wait til now to start doing that?

  61. Karl Krawfid says:

    Is it me or does YES show the opponents dugout a little too much?

  62. Clyde Barrow says:

    Interesting tid bit Kay just gave about the scouting report on Darvish. Many of us were saying last night that the hitters seemed over patient.

  63. cjc says:

    strange these guys are all late on 89 mph

  64. Mike Axisa says:

    Stop the hit and run nonsense, please.

  65. Cy Pettitte says:


    I hate this guy so much.

  66. jjyank says:

    Lamest double play. Well hit, just didn’t work out.

  67. Clyde Barrow says:

    That was a tie at 1st, Teix should have been safe. Make up call for Jete I guess.

  68. I'm sexy and I Cano it says:

    Wooooooooooooo, frustration!!!!!

  69. Nom Chompsky says:

    Hypothetical that I think about way more than I should — imagine you’re were an Ortiz or Teixiera type, that gets a ridiculous shift. You practice bunting somewhat down the third base line and taking the easy base. You basically have something close to a one-time use get on first base free card.

    When do you use it? Is eighth inning of a Divisional game too early? Any close WS game? Last at-bat of your career?

  70. forensic says:

    Guess that’s how Tex will avoid clogging up the bases…

  71. Bartolo's Colon says:

    feldman looks like halladay. i know that wasn’t his fault but i cannot stand ibanez on this team

  72. Epy0n says:

    Hughes looked good hopefully he keeps it going.

  73. Cy Pettitte says:

    There’s the Phil I know

  74. Karl Krawfid says:

    That shitty swing at the ball down the middle on the first pitch approach.

  75. Bartolo's Colon says:

    i see hughes is starting to settle in

  76. I'm sexy and I Cano it says:

    Right on cue!

  77. karcotte says:

    does that kid get every home run ball in texas?

  78. Brandon says:

    As I said before. He needs to get the ball low. Not high of down the middle.

  79. Paul VuvuZuvella says:

    Way to bounce back Philbert.

  80. your mom says:

    I like Phil throwing these change-ups to lefties.

  81. RetroRob says:

    Pettite goes one batter into the 6th before being pulled. 81 pitches.

  82. I guess Phil bouced back ok? I had to sell a girl some dutchies real quick, and she likes to talk forever.

  83. Hummingbird S. says:

    Shitty umps for the loss… way outside

  84. vin says:

    Just to kick us while we’re down… Joba’s doppleganger, Lance Lynn is 4-0 as a starter this season.

    • jjyank says:

      Why, cause they kinda look the same? I don’t get what he has to do with Joba.

      • vin says:

        Yeah, I don’t watch many Cardinals games throughout the year, so when I first saw him in the playoffs, I did a double-take. Hefty, right-hander, wearing #62 (last year), similar mound presence. Different delivery and repetoire. A young pitcher taking the starter to reliever shuttle. That was enough for me to consider him to be Joba’s double.

      • karcotte says:

        They also wear the same number.

  85. Wow according to PitchFX that pitch was well outside.

    • Tom says:

      For some reason it has become accepted practice to allow homeplate umpires to call an assymetrical strikezone to lefty hitters (they won’t give anything off the inside f the plate but will now go ~4″ off the plate.

      In fact Brooks has altered their maps with “typical” umpire zones which shows the absurdity of this.

  86. Karl Krawfid says:

    Ass Martin is gonna regret not signing that extension.

  87. I'm sexy and I Cano it says:

    Holy Derek Jeter

  88. Cy Pettitte says:

    Jeter MVP

  89. jjyank says:

    DJ4K? I kid (sort of) but this hot streak for Jeets is awesome.

  90. Nom Chompsky says:

    Can Jeter bat .500??

  91. Bartolo's Colon says:

    i wish i could travel back in time one year and just mess with everyone how things will be different this time next year, i promise

  92. sdjohn says:

    Well, Jeter is on fire. Anyone else?

  93. your mom says:

    Offensively, the Cap’n is the only one with a pulse on this team.

  94. Epy0n says:

    Watching Jeter constantly get hits is truly amazing.

  95. handtius says:

    how’s everyone like this jeter character? he’s good, huh?

  96. Jason K says:

    Could u imagine how good this team would be if our 3-4-5 guys could hit a little more? Jeters always on base for them it seems!

    • jjyank says:

      I take solace in this. We’re tied for first place right now with most of the team slumping and the starting pitching (outside of one CC start, two Kuroda starts, and Nova) have been underwhelming. That’s actually pretty good.

  97. I'm sexy and I Cano it says:

    That was a solid groundout, very solid.

  98. Epy0n says:

    It always seems like Arod just rolls over the fucking ball.

  99. Karl Krawfid says:

    Man A-Rod is horrible to watch.

  100. Hummingbird S. says:

    still shitty with RISP…

  101. sdjohn says:

    Is this Feldman or Sandy Koufax? When this team struggles (excluding Jeter) the whole damn team struggles. Dear lord.

  102. Alkaline says:

    Where did Jeter find the fountain of youth?

  103. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Nolan Ryan never looks happy.

  104. Tony says:

    Hughes looks very good aside from that homer

  105. Hummingbird S. says:

    Hate 0-2 mistakes, especially with a freaking fastball right down the middle.

  106. cjc says:

    sure why not

  107. Karl Krawfid says:

    0-2 fastballs down the middle.

    Shit I hate about Phil Hughes.

  108. handtius says:

    so unlucky….

  109. jjyank says:

    That’s the most annoying kinda of double.

  110. sdjohn says:

    Oh those lazy fly balls to RF with all kinds of hang time.

  111. Clyde Barrow says:

    Phil needs to limit them to 1 at the most here. And the offense needs to help Jeter. 0 runs in 12 innings counting last night.

  112. JS says:

    Hughes is the new Burnett. Andy we need you ASAP.!

  113. your mom says:

    Everytime someone makes a comment about how Hughes is doing well he fucks up.

  114. jjyank says:

    Damn. If that was harder hit to A-Rod they coulda had him.

  115. Greg says:

    Three run game Mike.

  116. Athenian says:

    Ut oh. Here we go with 2 strike Hughes.

    Pineda done.

  117. Clyde Barrow says:

    Uh oh. Now they’re gonna hit Jeter in the ribs. Phil shouldn’t have done that.

  118. Clyde Barrow says:

    Another 0-2 count. STRIKE SOMEBODY OUT, PHIL!

  119. JS says:

    Phil Burnett

  120. Hummingbird S. says:

    I’m ready for another Hughes 4 run in 5.2 innings start in which people will say he pitched so well and didnt deserve that line!

    • Tom says:

      Which will be sprinkled with the typical “he looked good in innings X-Y… if only he could consistently do that and it’s something he can build on.”

      All the guy knows is get to 2 strikes and fire high fastballs… locate a damn fastball on the inside corner or down in the zone. When he only pitches to 2 quadrants (high, outside) a major league hitter is eventually going to get to you. How often do you see him locate a 4 seam fastball on the inside corner or just off the inside corner?

  121. Karl Krawfid says:

    It’s 0-2 Phil.

    Put the batter away damn.

  122. Karl Krawfid says:

    lol @ the scout thing on MLB.com gameday during this at bat.

  123. Clyde Barrow says:

    He’s gonna lose him. Throw your curve in the dirt!

  124. jjyank says:

    Ugh. Can I has some bats now please?

  125. I'm sexy and I Cano it says:

    Hughes just cannot put hitters away.

    • P.A. Dice says:

      This is news how? A guy who can’t miss bats and can’t get a ground all to save his life is a recipe for a shit pitcher in the AL. Sigh. Why can’t we just clone CC and have CC clones filling out the rest of the rotation? Wow. When will be the year when the Yankess have at least decent pitching? Hopefully I get to see it in my lifetime.

  126. P.A. Dice says:

    Playing Texas every year and seeing how much they improve every year makes you realize how superior they are to the Yankees as an organization. From the front office, to scouting, to coaches + managers, to the roster, they are simply the best.

  127. Needed Pitching says:


  128. Clyde Barrow says:

    88 mph right down the middle ain’t gonna fool anybody. Awful pitching.

  129. Cy Pettitte says:


    banish him to the pen

  130. Karl Krawfid says:

    He’s just terrible.

    0-2 and didn’t even give him a breaking ball. I swear the kid is dumb.

  131. sdjohn says:

    Well, Maybe Jeter can hit 3 solo jacks, otherwise, we may not have a shot.

  132. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Brian Cashman absolved the Mariners of any blame: “In no way do I believe, or do the New York Yankees believe, that the Seattle Mariners had any knowledge of any issues here with Michael Pineda prior to the trade or anything of that nature. He was a fully healthy player we acquired. We had full access to his medicals, which were clean. We had the opportunity to do a full physical exam, which we did, which came out clean.”

    • DM says:

      MM said on the pre-game that they did a shoulder strength test prior to his rehab outing and he was fine — but after those 15 pitches he failed that same test. Pineda said he felt something on that last pitch.

  133. TJ says:

    UGH Just saw that we gave away Montero for nothing. Pineda out…..looks like the’s finished with the labrum issue. I also saw how people were ripping Cash. Unless he has psychic abilities that’s ridiculous.

    Also just saw that Hughes is “surviving” so far. Tightrope act as usual.

  134. Tom Zig says:

    Maybe if he threw something other than a fastball, he’d do ok.

  135. aRX says:

    I’ve just about had my fill of Hughes.

  136. Needed Pitching says:

    fuck Phil, wtf

  137. Clyde Barrow says:

    Freddy has new life. Hughes is done in the rotation as far as I’m concerned. Get Phelps in there.

  138. cjc says:

    and its all coming undone

  139. Hummingbird S. says:

    crappy Hughes will always be crappy

  140. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Amazing how we have a hole in the rotation now after all this depth and it isn’t even May. And that’s assuming Pettitte is Pettitte.

  141. JS says:

    A. J. Hughes

  142. Frank says:

    Will the Yanks please close the book on Phil Hughes as a starter. Put him back in the pen.

  143. Jason K says:

    You guys realize we’re gonna be stuck with fuckin Hughes and Garcia probably most of the season. With Pineda out, Banuelos injured and cant throw strikes, all we have is Pettitte, who i still don’t beleive is gonna be his old self.

    CC, Nova, Kuroda? ………

  144. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Hamels at the deadline anyone?

  145. Athenian says:

    Yankees pitching staff is in trouble. Same type of game from Hughes, can’t close an AB out. This one is about out of reach.

  146. Brandon says:

    Every pitch is either high or right down the middle. Every pitch so far this whole game. It was only a matter of time until this happened

  147. your mom says:

    Phelps please?

  148. Zooboy says:


  149. Tony says:

    Today has not been a good day so far

  150. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Hughes on the verge of a complete implosion now.

  151. pistol pete says:

    Hughes is a one or two inning pitcher at best. Hoping Freddy gets his act together and can be the No 5 behind CC Andy Kuroda and Nova. Hughes at best is a middle reliever.

  152. I'm sexy and I Cano it says:

    Lol, the ump is trolling Phil.

  153. Karl Krawfid says:

    When will the Yankees man up and send him to AAA?

  154. cjc says:

    at what point can we kill this experiment to the pen Hughes

  155. Needed Pitching says:


  156. handtius says:

    wow, that spiraled quick.

  157. Robinson Tilapia says:

    *reaches for the Absinthe*

  158. TJ says:

    Why is it that the Yanks have so may injuries with their young arms? Mishandling has to have something to do with it, it isn’t all coincidence.

  159. Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

    So Pettite will solve one of our two pitching problems. Seems like we’ll be giving the young guns an opportunity at some point, doesn’t it.

  160. Clyde Barrow says:

    Girardi is done with Hughes. The Phil Hughes experiment is officially over. I said it was over his last start and it looks like people are finally jumping on board that this kid just isn’t any good. Hughes to the 5th, Joba can pitch the 6th when he comes back. Such a waste.

  161. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Maybe they can use Hughes as a labrum donor for Pineda.

  162. Tony says:

    Think of the bright side. If Phil and Freddy continue to suck this year, there’s a chance we could see Manny Banuelos in the rotation this year

  163. Cy Pettitte says:

    Joba, Hughes, and Pineda for IPK.

    get it done Cash.

  164. Hummingbird S. says:

    And we dont even have Jesus Montero to try and make a trade for Cole Hamels because Cashman gave him away for damaged goods!! Cashman has no idea how to evaluate pitching..

  165. Athenian says:

    Man, this is sad. High hopes but complete failure. Hughes as a starter should be a dead issue now. He is exactly what he has been for the past three years as a starter, selectively effective, mostly inconsistent, but a definite drain on the bullpen.

  166. Tom Zig says:

    gooooooooood job. Garcia and Hughes having a who-can-suck-the-most competition I see.

  167. I'm sexy and I Cano it says:

    Remember a couple days ago when it was okay that Phil Hughes sucked because we knew Pineda would be back soon? Those were the days.

  168. P.A. Dice says:

    A guy who can’t miss bats and can’t get a ground all to save his life is a recipe for a shit pitcher in the AL. Sigh. Why can’t we just clone CC and have CC clones filling out the rest of the rotation? Wow. When will be the year when the Yankess have at least decent pitching? Hopefully I get to see it in my lifetime.

  169. Electric Nunez aka the shocker says:

    Bullpen my guess is by summer we see mitchell warren and phelps in hughes spot.

  170. forensic says:

    Absolutely shocked that Hughes would pitch a game like this…

  171. RetroRob says:

    Phil is one good start from Sweaty of being in the pen.

    Joe has yanked him earlier than he usually does with his starters, meaning more so than the results, he doesn’t like how Hughes is putting his pitches.

  172. chcmh says:

    Well, Jeter is certainly a pleasure to watch.

  173. Cuso says:

    So, is Phelps gonna get a shot soon or what?

  174. Tarik says:


    Your always said that there is no use in putting guys like Hughes and Chamberlain in the bullpen right away, because you want to give them a good shot at making it happen in the rotation first, which is a stance I agree with. However, when does that shot end?

    • Clyde Barrow says:

      It ends now. Both were mishandled and that’s unfortunate but neither one will be a starter and that’s a shame. Give Phelps a shot. Have him soak up innings tonight and he’ll be in line for Phil’s next start. Phil can be the multi inning guy in the pen until we can work out a trade.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      Well that’s a tough question to answer, all I can say is that Hughes’ shot isn’t nearly close to being done.

  175. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Now that Phil is in shape and throwing hard, what is the new excuse why he still sucks?

  176. your mom says:

    Yay Clay!

  177. Need Pitching says:

    disappointing Phil, very disappointing

  178. Pat D says:

    What a day so far. Pineda’s damaged goods, Hughes sucks and I have to change my shift for the last 7 weeks I work here.

    I felt like asking for my severance now. 7 weeks? Really???

  179. TomH says:

    Now I guess the hitters will begin trying to whack everything into the seats–every pitchers dream.

    Things not looking good for this team. They really have to get the 2-3-4 hitters going, and pretty damned soon.

  180. Cy Pettitte says:


    Hughes in pen. if Phelps sucks then try Warren.

    If they can’t get 5 quality starters outs of CC, Kuroda, Nova, Pettitte, Phelps, Hughes, Warren, Freddy, Mitchell that’s ridiculous.

  181. Steve S. says:

    Don’t be surprised when the Yanks pick Freddy over Hughes when Andy’s ready. I know Sweaty Freddy was horrendous in his last start, but if we’ve learned one thing in his year+ with the team its that he can’t get the Red Sox out. That’s OK, Hughes can’t get anyone out (or finish them off) and might actually have value out of the bullpen. That may be the best configuration for this group.

  182. dee dubs says:

    I think Joe’s gotta let phil try to get out of that – we have no choice at this point but to let him work out his issues.

    • TomH says:

      Nahh. He’s in AJ territory. He’ll never work it out until he’s had a major shock to the system, e.g., AAA

  183. I'm sexy and I Cano it says:

    What the hell are the Yankees going to do with Hughes? Send him to AAA? Bullpen? How many more outings like this before enough is enough?

  184. Plank says:

    I was hoping for 3.2 IP of with less than 4 runs. Unfortunately I was unrealistically optimistic.

  185. forensic says:

    Hey, focus on the positive! Other than the last 25 pitches of his 50 pitches, he only had a couple bad ones…

  186. Clyde Barrow says:

    Alright, we got lucky now let’s get something out of it. We can’t keep ruining these chances.

  187. RetroRob says:

    Tex with an opposite field single and an infield single all in the same game.

  188. JS says:

    Can we get Colon back? Apparently he’s good now.

    • Clyde Barrow says:

      He was good with us last year, he just ran out of gas at the end which is why we would have managed his innings better. He had just came back from the dead so he wasn’t going to be able to throw a full season. Not sure why we didn’t bring him back over Freddy.

  189. Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

    What a shitty day.

  190. P.A. Dice says:

    Anyone else suicidal over Pineda? I’m so sick of having shitty pitchers filling out the Yankees rotation these past couple of years. So sick of injuries, underperformances, flip flopping pitchers between SP and RP. I’m done with Cash and his stupid decisions. I totally saw the Pineda injury coming from a mile away. Heavy workload from last year, poor second half, decreased velo in spring, lots of red flags. Would’ve rather just signed Darvish and CJ Wilson and kept Montero instead of trading for Pineda and signing Kuroda. Argh. Sorry if I sound ridiculous. Just venting…

  191. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    I just hope that this doesn’t make the Yanks rush Pettitte back.

  192. Clyde Barrow says:

    And now for the DP. Shutout last night and 0 runs tonight.

  193. handtius says:

    fucking bad breaks all around.

  194. Cy Pettitte says:

    Raul is soooooo cool.

  195. karcotte says:


  196. I'm sexy and I Cano it says:

    Ibanez has life in him yet!

  197. Bartolo's Colon says:

    ibanez hits a double and still manages to screw it up

  198. Karl Krawfid says:

    The guy everyone hates is better than most on the team so far.

  199. RetroRob says:

    Kay is wrong. Hughes’ velocity this year is exactly the same as it was in 2007. The only time he was mid-90s was when he pitched out of the pen.

  200. Epy0n says:

    Was not expecting them to pull Feldman.

  201. DM says:

    Girardi post-game comments regarding Hughes will be interesting tonight.

    • forensic says:

      “He was just up a little bit. Got some outs up there but has to work down a little bit more. We’ll keep working with him and get it sorted out. He did win 18 games two years ago. You don’t just forget how to pitch and win.”

      • Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

        Ah yes, the 18 games. That’s the go-to answer anytime the reporters really start to get uppity.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      No they won’t, Girardi won’t say anything remotely controversial.

      • DM says:

        One more bad start before we get a “Well, we’ll discuss it. I’m gonna talk it over with Cash and our pitching coach then we’ll make a decision.” when asked about Phil’s rotation spot?

    • RetroRob says:

      No they won’t. He’ll remain supportive when talking to the media.

    • Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

      “His stuff looked good, he just struggled to find his command. He made two or three mistakes, and this is a lineup that doesn’t miss when you make a mistake.”

      That’s pretty much carbon copy Girardi post-game when Hughes pitches.

  202. Stratman9652 says:

    Damn, just get some guys on base for Ibanez and let the games begin.

  203. mustang says:

    Hey Pistol Pete

    How you like me now!!!!!!!

    Raul Ibanez

  204. Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

    Scott Feldman outlasted Phil Hughes in this game. That’s ’nuff said right there.

    • RetroRob says:

      Scott Feldman didn’t win 18 games in a season like Hughes, but he did win 17 games the year prior.

      Perhaps they’re twin sons of different mothers.

  205. Frank says:

    Cash should contact Oswalt and convince to come to Yanks and pitch with his good buddy Pettitte.

  206. Tony says:

    shouldnt nunez be hitting here?

  207. Paul VuvuZuvella says:

    F’n ground rules.

  208. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Gotta get a least one more run across.

  209. karcotte says:

    wow, that went far.

  210. David N says:

    Thank you Eric Chavez.

  211. Frank says:

    Great AB by Chavez.

  212. sangreal says:

    Everyone also seems to forget that Colon pitched in winter ball before last season

    (I wanted him back too)

  213. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Way to go Russell. He’s gonna have to pay a team to play next year at this rate.

    • P.A. Dice says:

      Exactly. If he doesnt show any life with the stick he doesn’t deserve a contract. No one is going to shell out a $60MM + contract for a DP machine who plays good D at catcher. I’d rather have Miguel Montero or Mike Napoli.

  214. P.A. Dice says:

    I’m kinda hoping someone like Garza or Gavin Floyd becomes available this trade deadline. Funny how our pitching depth is quickly fading.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      I want to see a legit ace next to CC. The franchise has never had it’s Pedro-Schilling. Someone near CC’s caliber would be amazing. Expecting Pineda to be that is just wishful.

      • handtius says:

        take it you’re pretty young?

        • JobaWockeeZ says:

          Wells and Cone were a solid 1-2 but it’s not otherwordly. Clemens was on his last breaths in NY. El Duque had a lot of quality starts but wasn’t consistent enough to be that ace.

          • Need Pitching says:

            2001 Moose, Pettitte, Clemens combo was pretty damn good

          • handtius says:

            moose and wells and clemens and cones, you can add 90s pettitte into that (he was pretty amazing back then). and clemens wasn’t done…he had a era+ 131 in 2000.

      • P.A. Dice says:

        If we were going to trade Montero I would’ve been ok with trading him for someone like Bumgarner or Tommy Hanson. But then again I never wanted to trade him.

  215. Pinstripes in Cali says:

    Far more excite to see Phelps pitch than the assclowns in the back of the rotation…

  216. Cy Pettitte says:

    Phelps sucks too. keep this guy in the pen.

  217. Mike Axisa says:

    Hey look, David Phelps can’t put anyone away with two outs strikes either.

  218. handtius says:

    phelps is our savior….oh wait…

  219. Karl Krawfid says:

    what a shitty home run

  220. cjc says:

    nice start David

  221. David N says:

    Well, there goes one of those runs….

  222. Widget says:

    Phelps to the rotation!!!!!! Nice job Mini-Hughes. Not a good day so far for Yankee baseball.

  223. Karl Krawfid says:

    3 fastballs to Napoli.

    Curve ball to the next batter after home run.

  224. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Warren was very impressive in Spring. I hope he’ll get a shot.

  225. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    Is Brian Gordon available?

    (not being serious)

  226. Clyde Barrow says:

    The question is can Phelps be competent? That’s all we need from our 5th starter with this offense. Problem is, Hughes isn’t even competent. He never gives us innings and always puts us in a deficit.

  227. Manny's BanWagon says:

    2:1 odds Beltre hits a grand slam.

  228. Stratman9652 says:

    Yay! Intentional walks with only one out! This can’t possibly result in a run right? Right?

  229. Athenian says:

    Do you think that Larry tells his staff that mid thigh down the middle is not a good spot? The bomb is about the blow up on the misrated Yankee staff.

  230. karcotte says:

    Swisher doesn’t get enough props for being a good defensive outfielder.

  231. your mom says:

    I hate Michael Young.

  232. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Michael Young is so gritty he should have been a red sox.

  233. Clyde Barrow says:

    We were so enthusiastic about this rotation with the additions of Kuroda and Pineda and now it’s all come crashing down. We’ve got 3 good starters. All hope is on Andy for an effective 4th starter.

  234. JS says:

    Phelps don’t pull a Hughes.

  235. V says:

    So, fantasy baseball – time to worry about Pujols?

  236. Cy Pettitte says:

    Young is so classy he let Phelps gets out of it without giving up another run

  237. Bartolo's Colon says:

    its decided, phelps to the rotation!

  238. jjyank, i was reading the Pineda thread between innings, you’re from jersey too? where about’s if you don’t mind me asking

  239. Karl Krawfid says:

    Escapability folks.

  240. JS says:

    Phil this is the bullpen. Bullpen this is Phil.

  241. Clyde Barrow says:

    The kid did what Hughes cannot, get out of trouble. He’d be a lot better than Hughes and right now that’s all we can ask for. Girardi should announce after the game that Hughes will be sent to the pen and Phelps will make Phi’s next start.

  242. Plank says:

    This makes me feel better, but it’s a few days old.

  243. Steve S. says:

    Most interesting thing I read today.


    The Owen Magnetic. A car that runs on magnetic power, and it was built 95 years ago.

    • Plank says:

      I tried to read it, but the sight of Jay Leno made me vomit. He’s the Phil Hughes of late night talk.

      • Steve S. says:

        Poor excuse. Read it, you’ll thank me later.

        • Plank says:

          With cars, simpler and cheaper parts are often better. When the Mustang was developed, Ford considered a more expensive independent rear suspension than the solid axle the car came with. As legend has it, Ford executive Lee Iacocca said, “Americans don’t give a crap about that. Make it inexpensive; make it look sexy. Don’t put something in it they can’t see.”

          That must be why the American auto industry is so respected the world over.

          • Steve S. says:

            As he said, quality doesn’t always win out and often doesn’t. The Beta format was far superior to VHS. Apple spent 20 years getting their brains beat in by Microsoft (before Steve Jobs took over) despite a better OS. Fast food has billions in sales while the best French restaurant in Manhattan probably does a few mil. Quality isn’t everything, unfortunately.

  244. Cy Pettitte says:

    What happened to Jim Johnson?

  245. pistol pete says:

    Phelps hanging in there, need some mo jo from the offense.

  246. Bartolo's Colon says:

    the orioles are so lucky, they don’t have to worry about hughes or pineda

  247. Clyde Barrow says:

    Michael thinks the division winner will be based on who can beat the Orioles? Everyone was saying they were improved last year and they finished dead last. It’ll come down to starting pitching and that’s unfortunate for us right now.

  248. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Orlando won which means the Knicks play either Miami or Chicago in round 1.

    Guess I’ll have to wait yet another year to see the Knicks win a playoff series.

    This day keeps getting better and better.

  249. your mom says:

    I hope the pen can keep this game within 3 runs so we have a chance at Nathan(who stinks early on).

  250. Karl Krawfid says:

    Well that is good news about Pineda

  251. handtius says:

    wow….look at that list of pitchers that came back from the surgery….guess pineda is screwed.

  252. Cy Pettitte says:

    Robinson is god

  253. Monterowasdinero says:

    King Felix tops out at 93. He does ok with that.

  254. Bartolo's Colon says:

    this dude is pretty awesome, think we can trade hughes for him?

  255. Karl Krawfid says:

    Great approach baby!

    Love it!

  256. David N says:

    Too many homers.

  257. Hummingbird S. says:

    awesome pitching depth…

  258. Karl Krawfid says:

    Yankees aren’t in the same league as Texas.

  259. handtius says:

    guess phelps isn’t our savior after all.

  260. Tony says:

    This game hurts my brain

  261. cjc says:

    glad we could fix Moreland for them

  262. Electric Nunez aka the shocker says:

    Wonder what we can get from seattle for Hughes?

    • Bartolo's Colon says:

      the worst thing about it is that he will be a good starter when he goes elsewhere

      • Athenian says:

        True. Yankees aren’t exactly the model of developing players, especially pitching. This is what you get buying players based on past performance – undermines the need for talented scouts and player development. #frustrating.

      • JohnnyC says:

        Someone will teach him a new changeup grip or tweak his delivery to get more downward plane and, voila, he’s good to go. Yankees are not the home of pitcher development.

  263. Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

    At least Montero is 3-5, 2 rbis. Gives me that warm feeling inside :)

  264. Stratman9652 says:

    Considering changing my handle to Larry Rothschild’s Man Boobs. Just thinking out loud.

  265. your mom says:

    IBB? Seriously?

  266. Bartolo's Colon says:

    doesn’t the crowd know that we are already going through enough?!?! we don’t need a yankees suck chant on top of it

  267. flamingo says:

    I hate intentional walks.

  268. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Everyone that has a good arm is in the infield for the Yankees….

  269. Hummingbird S. says:


  270. Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

    I really wish there was a way we could throw Beltre more middle-middle FBs.

  271. forensic says:

    Ugh, four game losing streaks suck. If this one holds, facing Verlander Friday and pitching Garcia Saturday really blows.

    • Need Pitching says:

      reverse locks

    • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

      Wow, way to jump to conclusions.

      • forensic says:

        I said ‘if’.

        If being realistic, you have to look at the odds favoring the Tigers in both those games. Sure, Nova could hang in there Friday and maybe the offense sneaks a few runs across. Or maybe the offense really shows up on Saturday against a guy they’ve never seen before. Those are probably best case scenarios though.

        But, I prefer reality, and sadly they’re not in a position to be favored to win any of the 3 games right now.

    • Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

      Yanks will make Verlander work, plus Nova is like our four-leaf clover. Harder to get excited about Garcia on Saturday, but at least it’s Saturday, so I don’t have to work!

  272. cjc says:

    remember when this staff was a strength full of depth and Hughes had a dynamite spring with “the experts” calling for a great rebound year. lol

  273. your mom says:

    Fuck Texas! They can all suck their own antlers!

  274. Manny's BanWagon says:

    That’s back to back shitty outings for Phelps. The shine is coming off his star rather quickly.

    If only we still had George Kontos.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Things you could have seen coming from a mile away:

      1) Phelps getting tattooed.
      2) Fans turning on him once he got tattooed.

      Give the kid a break. He wasn’t going to be perfect and, yes, those were some pretty good offenses he was facing for the first time.

      We have George Kontos. His name is now Cody Eppley, or whatever else fungible fringe middle reliever we pick up on the side of the road at some point this year.

      • Manny's BanWagon says:

        Get up on the wrong side of the bed today?

        Of course Phelps was gonna give up some runs eventually. He’s still a promising young arm, just not the savior he was made out to be by everyone calling for him to be put into the starting rotation.

        As for Kontos, your sarcasm detector must be out of order

  275. RetroRob says:

    Phelps really hasn’t pitched all that well his last two times out against better offenses.

  276. Captain Gift Basket says:

    Yanks still haven’t figured out Adrian Beltre. Seriously, does this team have any scouts or do they just rely on their talent? Same players all the time – Carlos Peña, Ortiz, any pitcher with an ERA over 5.00…

  277. Need Pitching says:

    at least Ibanez still sucks

  278. forensic says:

    wow, that was crushed.

  279. handtius says:

    holy damn ibanez

  280. Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

    I can has moar Raul plox, kthnx.

  281. Reggie C. says:

    2013 ROTATION:


    … Chances aren’t in Pineda’s favor that he’ll recover his ability to execute as well as he did in 2011. Toss in the likelihood Pineda will have to square off against Minor league hitting before getting the call up in May, and the man is essentially the biggest question mark in the rotation.

    Hughes is a non-factor. I frankly dont even expect Hughes to be in pinstripes next season.

    Has Pineda’s labrum just forced the Yanks to enter the Hamels sweepstakes? I think so.

  282. Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

    I was so happy… on Monday…

    so happy..


  283. Athenian says:

    Well this one is over. Yanks are just to over matched. Thankfully there are two wild card spots. Everyone have a good evening.

  284. flamingo says:

    I love this bullpen.

    Now, if the offense can wake up and crank out a walkoff win, that would be nice.

  285. Karl Krawfid says:

    Can Granderson hit an off speed pitch?

  286. Karl Krawfid says:

    No Bullpen meltdown warning Mike?

    One going down in Minnesota.

  287. RetroRob says:

    No, the little kid is crying when a new IQ point developed and he realized he’s from a family of Texas Rangers fans.

  288. V says:

    Shame on me for believing we’d see anything approaching the ARod of old again. He’s fouling off or rolling over pitches that the ARod of old used to be able to bash.

    • Karl Krawfid says:

      Yep. Hitch in his swing. High leg kick. So stubborn.

    • Captain Gift Basket says:

      Arod’s on the quick downslide of his career. This is exactly the reason why I hated the Montero trade in January and really can’t stand it now. This team needs bats, as evidenced by last year’s debacle in the playoffs. The pitching was fine – they didn’t leave the bases loaded twice – the overrated lineup did.

      The Pineda trade is baffling – the Yanks are supposedly “loaded” with young arms in their system, close to making the big leagues, and yet their best hitters are years away. Montero, btw, is 5-10 the past 2 nights against a playoff team – the same team that bounced our beloved Yankees.

  289. Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

    Hate a loss like this before an off day.

  290. RetroRob says:

    The guy has a nice smile on his face, too, but for other reasons.

  291. RetroRob says:

    Michael Kay: “It’s strange, Kenny, but I don’t seem to have the ability to read a baseball off the bat.”

  292. JMK says:

    Forgive me for checking in so late – I’m assuming by the score Hughes didn’t look too sharp? Can someone fill me on how his command/stuff was?

  293. RetroRob says:

    Joe Nathan. This could be the Yankees best chance.

  294. goterpsgo says:

    At least a Boston team lost tonight…

  295. pistol pete says:

    It doesn’t get any easier Friday with Detroit and Verlander.

  296. Robinson Tilapia says:

    This too shall pass.

  297. Cuso says:

    I get fooled by arod every April 1-7. “Wowww! He looks so great.” Then…..splay.

    He’s good for one monster game per week but isn’t someone that we all fool ourselves into thinking “If he gets hot, he could carry this team for a month.”

    He cant even carry a team for 9 innings any more.

    • Monterowasdinero says:

      ARod will tease us from time to time when he guesses right but he is a shell of himself. Adjustments will need to be made!

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