Apr
14

Game Eight: Streakin’

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(REUTERS/Mike Segar)

The Yankees are on a bit of a roll now, winning four straight thanks in part to Hiroki Kuroda‘s gem on Friday afternoon. Phil Hughes will try to keep the streak alive against C.J. Wilson today, hopefully showing some more efficiency against a predominantly right-handed lineup. The bullpen is well-rested, the offense has started to click, and it’s Joe’s birthday. That alone is deserving of a win. Here’s the starting nine…

SS Derek Jeter
RF Nick Swisher
2B Robinson Cano
DH Alex Rodriguez
1B Mark Teixeira
CF Curtis Granderson
LF Andruw Jones
Russell Martin
3B Eduardo Nunez

RHP Phil Hughes

Today’s game starts a little after 1pm ET and can be seen on FOX. Enjoy.

Brett Gardner News: Gardner was sick with flu-like symptoms last night and his availability off the bench this afternoon is uncertain.

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471 Comments»

  1. Greg says:

    Oh crap Buck McCarver. Yet Buck did a great job in the World Series.

  2. Havok9120 says:

    I’m actually glad ARod is DH’ing today. I had a dream last night in which he wound up getting hurt. It was rather depressing.

  3. William Bonney says:

    Phil needs to pitch well. Andy and Pineda are on their way and Phil will be replaced along with Freddy if he continues to struggle. Kuroda and Nova gave us great starts. There’s no reason why he can’t.

  4. Havok9120 says:

    Aaaaaaaand my FOX affiliate wants to show Cubs/St. Louis. Sigh.

    At least its raining, means they’ve sent me to NY for now.

  5. jjyank says:

    Ugh Fox…where’s that mute button…

  6. jjyank says:

    Come on Hughes, let’s make that rotation decision a tough one.

  7. Cy Pettitte says:

    Phull Count Phil

  8. jjyank says:

    Hahaha I cracked up when I saw the face Granderson was making running down that ball.

  9. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Is it reallywindy out there or something? That looked like a pop-up, and it nearly took Grandy to the track…

  10. Mike HC says:

    I still get excited to see Hughes pitch.

    • AaronGuielWithASmile says:

      He looks pretty sharp in the early going. Tight strike zone though.

    • Havok9120 says:

      I did in ST, just to see where his velocity is. But now that he looks like he’s in 2010 form, I’m not. He’ll either be exceedingly frustrating or excellent, and the frustrating happens more often.

  11. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Why is Pujols getting booed? What did he ever do to us?

    • Mike HC says:

      Maybe his comments about not giving a crap about playing in Yankee Stadium? I don’t know. Or maybe just because he is their best player and giving him the treatment?

    • Dummies Playing With Balls (formerly Rainbow Connection) says:

      Yankees fans boo their own playters. They are classless.

  12. Total Dominication says:

    Why the hell is Pujos getting booed?

    • jjyank says:

      Dumb Yankee fans wanted Cash to sign him to be our DH? I dunno.

    • Chen Meng Wang says:

      Because he’s an excellent player who isn’t on the Yankees. A-Rod got booed his entire career until he came to play for us…

      • Total Dominication says:

        That’s cause A-rod is generally disliked, not so for Prince Albert.

        • Chen Meng Wang says:

          There is also that for the most part Yankee fans are kind of douchey. Not most of the people on here, or most fans I’m friends with, but just like with people in general, Yankee fans in general suck.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Well, he did disrespect Flanny….er, I mean the Stadium.

      • j6takish says:

        I didn’t really take his statements as disrespecting the stadium, it seemed like the media was trying to play up him having anxiety about playing in Yankee stadium on opening day with all the tradition and yadda yadda and he pretty much said Im a professional and a 10 year veteran, I really don’t care, it’s just another game to me

    • Kiko Jones says:

      I don’t boo anyone but if I did Pujols would be high on my list for being an arrogant, self-righteous, humorless dude. (He and LaRussa can go fuck themselves.) Also, I do not believe you can be “the best player in baseball” if you’re not a 5-tooler. So, I’d boo him for that, too.

  13. Chen Meng Wang says:

    Hughes really needs a “put out pitch” until he finds one, he’s not going to be able to get deep into games like we want/need him to.

    Hi I’m captain obvious.

  14. Greg says:

    That time he got up 0-2 and hung a curve for a hit

    • Havok9120 says:

      Still broke a ton though. Thats a good sign. It just started so high the after the break it was still above the belt.

  15. Havok9120 says:

    That curveball is breaking a ton early on. I like it.

  16. Dela G says:

    good lord andruw

  17. Greg says:

    Another hanging pitch

  18. Mike HC says:

    Keep blowing on those glasses Andruw

  19. Cy Pettitte says:

    do we have to hear the Morales celebration story EVERY time we play the Angels?

  20. Chen Meng Wang says:

    21 pitches to get two outs…He really needs to get better at this.

  21. Mike HC says:

    I like the 94 mph heat and seemingly gets faster as it reaches the plate. I like it.

  22. jjyank says:

    Big K there. His velocity looks good.

  23. Greg says:

    Hughes’s fastball looks lively. Its the secondary pitches that have gotten him into trouble

  24. Cy Pettitte says:

    that’s more like it Hughes!

  25. Dela G says:

    Thank the lord

    Great job huuuuuuuuuuuughes

  26. Total Dominication says:

    Nice! Anyone got a pitch count?

  27. Mike HC says:

    His fastball is definitely going to be a plus, plus pitch for him this year. Looking good.

  28. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Attaboy Hughes!

  29. Yank in Beantown says:

    Great bounce back Phil!

  30. jjyank says:

    Phil looks good. Not terribly efficient, but his fastball has some zip and his curveball looks sharp.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Considering he had two baserunners he was pretty efficient. He usually throws that many pitches to the regular 3 batters.

  31. Chen Meng Wang says:

    completely off topic, but I got a memory foam mattress and it was delivered yesterday, getting out of bed this morning was the hardest thing I’ve ever had to do in my entire life.

    • Havok9120 says:

      That good? I hear great things about MF mattress pads from my fellow Tulane-ians but I don’t know anyone with a full mattress.

      • Chen Meng Wang says:

        Dude, your body sinks into it to the perfect level of comfort, and then it becomes firm under you. It’s like a plush and firm regular mattress all in one. It’s terrible that you guys don’t have Bob’s Discount Furniture out there…they make the best generic Tempurpedic, the only draw back to the store brand is the longevity isn’t the same, but it still lasts a long time.

  32. jjyank says:

    I have an irrational dislike for CJ Wilson, and I don’t really know why. What I do know, is I will be extra happy if the Yanks rock him.

  33. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    I love the Yankees lineup with Swish in the 2 hole

  34. Dela G says:

    i’ll take it, captain!

  35. Yank in Beantown says:

    McCarver is such a d-bag, how has Fox not replaced him yet, is there anyone on the planet that appreciates him?

    Nice Jete.

  36. Mike HC says:

    Tough start to the year for Pujols. Now these other teams are getting to know how it feels to watch a 200 million dollar player under perform.

  37. Total Dominication says:

    Didn’t know i they’d pick it up? Seriously?

  38. 28 this year says:

    I can’t stop laughing at the amazing Red Sox outfield with the injury to Ellsbury along with the already injured Crawford. So much for best team eva

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Their lack of depth is alarming. If an OF gets hurt, the Yankees can call up Dickerson or Wise. The Red Sox called up a guy with a sub-.300 SLG in his Triple-A career. No level of defense makes up for that.

    • Cy Pettitte says:

      I don’t root for a player to get injured but I am enjoying their predicament.

      • Havok9120 says:

        I’m enjoying the country seeing the lack of depth after Boston has been so hyped these last two years. Its the same team as last year in terms of position player depth and this is what happens when they lose a guy.

        • Dummies Playing With Balls (formerly Rainbow Connection) says:

          I haven’t seen any hype for this year. Just last year.

          • Havok9120 says:

            No one was calling them “the greatest team ever” this year, but they were certainly treating the pitching staff like 3 starters and Andrew Bailey is all you need.

            If we fielded a team that thin, we’d get massacred by the national press. Think mid-to-late aughts. I term that hype, though I know that isn’t quite the proper word.

  39. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Time for Robbie to break through

  40. William Bonney says:

    Now let’s hit better with RISP. With the heart of the order up we should be able to score.

  41. Chen Meng Wang says:

    Sterling said Swish has an option, does he just mean that he has options on were he can play, or that he actually has a player option for next year in his contract?

  42. Will (the other one) says:

    Get ‘em, Nick!

  43. Dela G says:

    damn, cano just missed that pitch

  44. jjyank says:

    Damn. That was a great pitch though.

  45. Mike Axisa says:

    There’s the obligatory Bob Gibson reference.

  46. Foghorn Leghorn says:

    about $500MM at 1B right now…i bet they are talking about investments.

    • Chen Meng Wang says:

      Man…if I had ten percent of that money I’d invest it so well that my grand children will be buying their kids cars for 17th birthdays.

      • Foghorn Leghorn says:

        If I had a million $ I’d have two chicks at the same time…

        • Chen Meng Wang says:

          What would you do?
          You mean besides to chicks at the same time?

          • Kiko Jones says:

            Lawrence: Well, yeah.
            Peter: Nothing.
            Lawrence: Nothing, huh?
            Peter: I would relax… I would sit on my ass all day… I would do nothing.
            Lawrence: Well, you don’t need a million dollars to do nothing, man. Take a look at my cousin: he’s broke, don’t do shit.

  47. handtius says:

    i have to admit. that was pretty fun, half a billion dollars just ran into each other.

  48. Cy Pettitte says:

    Yankees key to the game is to win the game

  49. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Of course everyone will rip on Tex, but that was a great 2 strike pitch.

  50. Will (the other one) says:

    That Chevy commercial with Prince Fielder cracks me up every time.

  51. Tom says:

    SO the Fox key to the game is to “just keep shaking hands” (what they do after a win)?

    So the key to winning the game is winning? Fox analysis!

  52. handtius says:

    at least they got CJ up to 20+ pitches

    • Havok9120 says:

      He pitched really well out of that. That was impressive. He didn’t give either of them much to hit except that one that Cano missed.

  53. Kostas says:

    I wonder if we will ever see a first baseman who can hit and play defense. Even though Tex is far better on defense than Giambi was, his AB’s are nearly laughable.

  54. Total Dominication says:

    What was Wilson’s pitch count?

  55. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Terrible call.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Its like you want to root for things to go wrong so you can complain, but can’t quite bring yourself to do it. Its interesting to watch.

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        I like correct calls on both sides but apparently if you say anything that comes close to a negative you have to show up and say shit like “please be a joke” like it deeply affects your life. I intentionally said it to see if I get responses like that and you didn’t disappointing. It’s interesting to watch.

        • Havok9120 says:

          Ohhhhhhhh. So you’re baiting people with negativity for a response? There’s a term for that as I recall.

          • JobaWockeeZ says:

            It would be trolling if the original statement was insulting to someone or if it wasn’t true. But it was a terrible strike so no it’s not trolling.

            Don’t even play the ‘you’re a troll’ game when you use comments like “d0000mmm1ed: every day.

            Oh look Granderson got out, fuck what a troll.

  56. Tut says:

    Tex in a funk

  57. Havok9120 says:

    Niiiiice fastball. That thing was moving.

  58. Total Dominication says:

    Philthy!

  59. Mykey says:

    There you go Phil. Way to fight back on that at bat.

  60. Chen Meng Wang says:

    :( damn.

  61. Mike Axisa says:

    The Stadium giveth, and the Stadium taketh.

  62. Total Dominication says:

    What?

  63. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    The short porch giveth, the short porch taketh away

  64. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Oh short porch.

  65. Cy Pettitte says:

    worst HR ever

  66. jjyank says:

    Damn it, did not think that would carry.

  67. Dela G says:

    wow that guy is super strong to be able to do that

  68. rfwarrior says:

    It sure looks like he’s tossing them right down the middle on a lot of guys.

    • handtius says:

      camera angle. plus, he’s got a good enough fastball to throw one down the middle, up to get a batter out.

  69. rfwarrior says:

    The last three guys got one stomach-high down the middle.

  70. jjyank says:

    Take off the bow tie!!

  71. Mike Axisa says:

    Aybar is such a pain in the ass.

  72. Will (the other one) says:

    I know the location has been a little spotty, but Hughes’ curve looks awfully good to me so far.

  73. rfwarrior says:

    Luckily he’s got some good movement today.

  74. Andy says:

    Serious question: why do people hate Joe Buck? He can be somewhat entertaining.

    • handtius says:

      he hates the yankees and he drones on. have you heard his call when the yankees won the world series?

      • Andy says:

        He hates the Yankees? I’ve never gotten that. Yankees fans are way too sensitive. I watched most innings of the 2009 post season and if anything it sounded like he was rooting for the Yankees. He couldn’t stop fawning over Alex (for good reason).

        • Greg says:

          He knows that if the Yankees succeed the ratings go up.

          That being said, he’s a Cardinals fan.

        • handtius says:

          i’m not going to get into a back and forth, but i don’t care whether or not he likes the yanks, but from my perspective, i see him as a bore with an annoying voice, void of any excitement and i see him as a yankee hater.

    • Havok9120 says:

      He talks a lot for an announcer, and if you don’t like that, or his particular brand of humor/commentary, you’ll hate him.

      That said, I like him.

    • Pat D says:

      He doesn’t seem to know when something really amazing happens and so his commentary is flat when it should have some feeling behind it.

      Biggest example of this:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27XeNefwABw

      The Aaron Boone HR is another good example, especially when you compare it to Charley Steiner’s call.

      • Pat D says:

        Oh, also, a couple of years ago he said he preferred watching Dancing With the Stars than baseball.

        So……why the fuck are you announcing baseball games when you don’t even bother to watch them? I blame FOX.

      • Andy says:

        He’s the play by play guy. I like that he doesn’t go over the top with his calls. Half the audience is going to appreciate when a national announcer goes nuts over something and the other half is going to hate it. Seems like he does a good job of staying balanced.

    • John says:

      My main issue with him is his complete lack of enthusiasm. He never gets excited. Game-tying homer in the bottom of the ninth and he keeps the same tone. A great call adds so much to the epicness of a play. He sounds like he wants to be somewhere else. Particularly his baseball broadcasts. He looks to enjoy football more.

      His worst call in my opinion is Tyree’s catch. He made it sound like it was any other catch, nothing special.

  75. Kosmo says:

    At the rate Hughes is going he´ll be toast by the 5th inning. He´s so inefficient.

  76. leo says:

    cheap hr, 4 k’s and good stuff but 46 pitches in 2 innings is not good, im really wondering if hughes will ever be able to overcome that

  77. Total Dominication says:

    No doubt he was getting, fucking beast.

  78. jjyank says:

    Damn, any other CF doesn’t get to that.

    • handtius says:

      gardner does.

      • jjyank says:

        Fair enough, but since Gardner doesn’t actually play CF and even if he did, he wouldn’t be running down his teammates’ fly balls, I wasn’t counting him.

        • D-Rob da man says:

          Upton,ellsbury,jones,just to name a few.

          • jjyank says:

            I was under the impression that Bourjos was probably the best defensive CF in the game. I could be wrong, but that is what I based my statement on.

            • Havok9120 says:

              Oh, he is. But that didn’t seem like as tough a play as they made it out to be. I don’t think Granderson gets it because of his problem with jumps, but unless Bourjos had to turn on the jets a lot more than he looked like he did, that ball wasn’t that tough (relatively speaking) to get to.

      • D-Rob da man says:

        Jackson,span,victorino,pagan,kemp

  79. Cy Pettitte says:

    Andruw was robbed :(

  80. Havok9120 says:

    Darn you Bourjos.

  81. Tom says:

    46+ pitches through 2 innings…. looking like another 5 inning start for Phil

    This is what Phil Hughes is, he’ll probably have a few 6 or 7 inning starts but if he faces more than 3 batters in an inning he’s probably throwing 20+pitches

    • Chen Meng Wang says:

      Which makes me sad, I’d love to see him succeed, but I’d rather see the team succeed than wait for him. Which is why I don’t mind him loosing his rotation spot.

      • jjyank says:

        I hope if he does go to the pen, he can be an Aceves/Mendoza type. Hughes could be an interesting bullpen weapon that can go 4-5 innings if need be if he fails to go the distance as a starter.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      …if he faces more than 3 batters in an inning he’s probably throwing 20+pitches

      That’s true for basically every pitcher, at least in the AL.

  82. handtius says:

    we need to at least get cj’s pitch up. h’es at 34.

  83. Kostas says:

    Kind of and kind of not. Tex is beyond frustrating at the plate.

  84. Greg says:

    Another high breaking pitch

  85. Chen Meng Wang says:

    What happened to Howy Kendrick? He used to be talked about with Cano and Pedroia as one of the best 2nd baseman in the AL. I feel like he’s fallen off the map a little bit.

  86. Nom Chompsky says:

    They’re not booing, they’re saying POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  87. Greg says:

    Another high pitch

  88. Cy Pettitte says:

    not the best 0-2 pitch

    • Greg says:

      Eh. Looking at it again, it was a good 0-2 pitch considering the pitches prior. That was all Pujols

      • Tom says:

        But it’s not a good pitch.

        Pujols hits high pitches well… even if he doesn’t put it in play, it’s probably fouled off.

        Hughes is almost as predictable as the Joba 0-2, 1-2 curve/slider in the dirt (for him it is the high fastball)… it will work for a while but even if it does, it is inefficient as hell.

  89. D-Rob da man says:

    Is hughes going to keep us in the game?

  90. William Bonney says:

    Ok, time to start warming Phelps. We need to stay in this ballgame. Pineda and Andy are hopefully close to the Bronx. We’ve got 3 good starters at least.

  91. Hall and Nokes says:

    When life has me down in the count 0-2, I sure hope Phil Hughes is on the mound.

  92. Tyrone Sharpton says:

    hughes is falling apart now…damn when andy and pineda return, hughes looks cooked no matter what

  93. Greg says:

    Looking at his start, I think Hughes does belong in the pen. His fastball is good, but his secondary pitches are on and off. A profile for a bullpen man

    • Havok9120 says:

      This is where I’d pile on for SSS….but it isn’t. This is how he’s looked every time he’s been a starter save for a few months of 2010. Its still too early into the season to pull the plug (probably by a month or two), but he’s certainly not capitalizing on the chances so far.

  94. rfwarrior says:

    I feel like he doesn’t have the control, so they just lay off waiting for him to hit the zone. HHe’s getting a few “caught-looking” because of it..but it explains his pitch count. If he can’t fix that, it scares me if he has to face a patient lineup like the Red Sox or a fastball-crushing team like the Rangers.

  95. jimmy says:

    Are you guys being serious or just joking? I can never tell…

    • Chen Meng Wang says:

      About what?

    • handtius says:

      i think 3 runs is the limit, then people start coming out of their holes and bitching and moaning about everything under the sun. look at the past games…people were seriously questioning CC and they forget that Tex starts every year slow. Not everyone comes out of spring at full speed and we know both CC and Tex are at least 2 of them.

      but bridge jumpers never pay attention to that.

      • Havok9120 says:

        Yeah, it seems to happen at 3 for all but the most determined pessimists.

        That said, I find it hard to get on people for freaking out over Hughes, even early in the season. He doesn’t look “off”…he looks just like he does most of the time.

        That said, no need to take him out unless they see something wrong over on the bench.

  96. rfwarrior says:

    Anyone think Wells is going to have a good year…following his on/off pattern of seasons?

  97. D-Rob da man says:

    Hughes to soriano to drob to mo yeah 6 th innning on is covered

  98. Cy Pettitte says:

    wow Phelpsie up already

    Hughes and Freddy look like the odd men out right now

  99. Kostas says:

    Time for Hughes to go to the pen.

  100. jjyank says:

    Swish has looked good at the plate lately. That was a pretty hard hit out.

  101. Mike Axisa says:

    Maybe Robinson Cano can’t handle batting third. Isn’t that something people would say?

  102. William Bonney says:

    He gets guys 0-2 and then loses him. He hasn’t gotten any better. Bring Phelps in before this gets out of hand.

  103. Chris says:

    the old “front door intentional slider”

  104. Tom says:

    Hughes is starting to remind me of Scott Kazmir…. get ahead 0-2, 1-2… waste a bunch of pitches/bunch of foul balls and the count goes 2-2, 3-2.

    And Kazmir was often gone after 100pitches and 5 innings, even if he hadn’t given up a lot runs.

  105. Kostas says:

    This is one of those games.

    • Chen Meng Wang says:

      One of those games were we get beat like the red headed step child of a rented mule?

      • Kostas says:

        Kind of…but meant one of those games where bounces and hits don’t go the Yankees way. Tex made a great play but did not get the reward.

  106. Chen Meng Wang says:

    FUCK!

  107. jjyank says:

    Sigh.

  108. Tom from GA says:

    hughes sucks

  109. Havok9120 says:

    Well then. So much for that.

  110. D-Rob da man says:

    Bullpen!!!!

  111. Kostas says:

    That’ll just about do it.

  112. William Bonney says:

    Send this piece of garbage to the bullpen, before Freddy.

    • Kostas says:

      Should have traded him when they had the chance.

      • AndrewYF says:

        Just like they should have traded Rivera, Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, Cano, Gardner, Robertson, Swisher…well, you know, everyone who was good at one time when it was uncertain if they would continue to be good into the future.

        • Jimmy McNulty says:

          Huge difference. Hughes is 25, was good once, but terrible now. He’s a free agent next year anyways so yes, they should have traded him while he still had trade value. It’s his sixth year in the bigs and he’s failed to establish himself as a solid big leaguer. And your comp doesn’t work, probably because you’re just a stupid homer that can’t think things through:

          Rivera was an awesome set up man his second year to Wetteland, he had an injury issue early but was awesome his second year on. Jeter won RoY, and Cano was a RoY contender. Swisher was the man all throughout his Yankee tenure, October notwithstanding. Robertson also was a high-K reliever throughout his Yankee career. Gardner turned into something quickly, he was always a useful player, that we thought the bottom would fall out quickly on but turned into a good player. Posada actually had trade rumors around him since he was just a back up catcher, but he proved his usefulness quickly. Pettitte was an all-star caliber pitcher his rookie year, and a CYA contender his second year…awesome ever since.

          Hughes always had the same fucking problems after the hamstring injury, couldn’t finish hitters and used his fastball too much. Hughes had six fucking years to prove his worth, and he hasn’t established anything yet. Yeah yeah, he had a good first half in 2010 and a good year in relief in 2009, big fucking deal he can’t stay healthy and when he pitches he has no third pitch and can’t finish pitchers. He should have been traded when he still had trade value.

      • Bo Knows says:

        Captain Hindsight I didn’t know you were real!!! You have anything else to tell us about what we should have done in the past with knowledge of the present

        • Havok9120 says:

          You should look lower. There’s the guy claiming both Hughes and Joba should have stayed in the pen to develop “closer stuff.”

        • Jimmy McNulty says:

          Yeah but it was a real chance of trading him, and there were legitimate trade offers on the table…the only way that these trade offers wouldn’t be realistic is if Hughes developed into an Ace. Basically the equivalent now would be like someone offering Felix Hernandez for Banuelos and Betances…it’s only a dumb trade if both develop into aces.

  113. handtius says:

    bah

  114. AndrewYF says:

    Well, at least we have our answer of who gets replaced in the rotation.

    Hughes needs to be sent down to A-ball to reinvent himself, Halladay-style.

  115. TJ says:

    Hughes to pen, he’s awful

  116. CBean says:

    i’m never allowed to bench anyone on my fantasy team.

  117. teddy says:

    hughes just ruined the inning kuroda gave.

    hughes better off in the pen in acevas type role.

    at best he a 4/5 starter

  118. Tom I says:

    Okay, that’s enough. Let Phelps get the next start.

  119. Jon says:

    Phil ph-ucking sucks

  120. Gil L says:

    Hughes is clearly winding down his Yankees career.
    A free agent soon, it is time to say goodbye.

  121. Cuso says:

    Oy vey

    I blame nationally televised games

  122. Havok9120 says:

    Phillip, Phillip, Phillip. Sigh.

    Only the 4th inning, so the game is hardly out of reach. We need to stop the bleeding though.

    The brightside? If the offense does stink it up, we can see a lot of Phelps.

  123. William Bonney says:

    And all this time I was saying put in Phelps before it gets out of hand. Rothschild new last inning Phil was done but Girardi waited too long again and now it’s probably out reach with CJ on the mound. Phil has done nothing to earn a longer leash.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Its not on Girardi. You don’t pull your starter in the 3rd if he isn’t hurt or getting shelled. He wasn’t either of those things.

      And you’re pulling the Rothschild knew and Girardi ignored him thing out of your ear. Its not like Rothschild had Phelps warming up on his own initiative. Sure, maybe he “knew” something and Girardi overruled him, but there’s no way for you to know that.

  124. John says:

    Hughesless

  125. TJ says:

    I’m calling a comeback here. This is one of those games when they get down early and claw back. Only the 4th, still 6 at bats for yanks. Tying run will come tot he plate.

  126. James A says:

    To my very untrained eye, it seems like stuff isn’t Hughes’ problem, rather that he seems to be way too predictable and he doesn’t have the command to get away with it. If he’s going to work out as a starter, he has to develop a changeup that he can throw consistently and for strikes, or he seems like a bullpen guy to me (not that that’s necessarily the worst thing ever)

    • Nathan says:

      Basically. That’s why he gets into trouble after the first time through the order.

      He was a lot better when he had the good curve.

  127. Cy Pettitte says:

    Cy Young frontrunner David Phelps in

    • Pinstripes in Cali says:

      Based in his performance s far, I’d say he’ll strike out 75% of hitters, while maintaining a 0.00 ERA during his first-ballot HoF career.

  128. Nathan says:

    So far the rotation has NOT looked good outside of Kuroda’s gem yesterday.

    CC, below his standards
    Kuroda, good.
    Hughes, crap.
    Nova, OK.
    Garcia, crap.

    Thank goodness Andy is coming back and Pineda can’t get any worse. I’m hoping Pineda gets healthy and then he and Andy replace Phil and Sweaty.

  129. TJ says:

    Makes me wonder how much of that dead arm last year was mental.

  130. Cuso says:

    I wanted (and still do) Hughes to succeed as a starter but he just can’t stay away from long counts. He doesn’t have a hit-me-one-pitch-one-out pitch

  131. Pinstripes in Cali says:

    Damn… I was so impressed by the new Hughes in ST and his first outing that I added him to my fantasy team last night.

  132. Tyrone Sharpton says:

    I really love Hughes and think he can still be a star pitcher, but man outings like this are gunna kill him if he wants to stay

  133. Chen Meng Wang says:

    Question, worst case scenario, Pettitte get’s to AA and is getting bombed, Pineda never regains velocity so he’s shut down, and Hughes keeps up what he’s been doing. What are our chances of making the playoffs?

  134. Kostas says:

    can’t quite figure out where Hughes and Joba went wrong. Were they overhyped, underdeveloped, misused, etc.?

    • Mike Axisa says:

      The Yankees just made shit up as they went along. No plan in place.

      • Pinstripes in Cali says:

        Do you have any idea of the reason for this baffling behavior by the Yanks? Accuse them of many things, but not a lack of organizational acumen.

        • Mike Axisa says:

          I wish I knew. They seem to have done better with Nova, specifically just by sending him to the minors to keep pitching rather than stick him in the bullpen last year.

      • AaronGuielWithASmile says:

        Pretty much. All the injuries haven’t helped either guy, too.

      • Kostas says:

        That might be the biggest issue. Panic driven decisions never work out, except burning out arms.

        • Havok9120 says:

          In the case of Joba, it wasn’t always panic either. They saw his effectiveness in the bullpen and had that in the back of their minds from then on. Silly, but not totally unreasonable.

          That said, they are at fault in oh, so many ways that the aggregate of their decisions certainly was unreasonable.

    • TJ says:

      Too much emphasis on the pitch count. Both got hurt anyway, maybe BECAUSE of the stupid pitch count.

  135. Reggie C. says:

    I don’t want to pull the plug on Hughes’s starting career, but he’s got to go 5 innings his next start out. Another disaster outing could open the door for Phelps. Hughes just doesn’t have a long leash to hang himself.

    Right guys?

    • Havok9120 says:

      I think that they’ll give him a longer leash than three turns through. I really think they’ve learned their lesson there.

      I mean, we can’t criticize their jerking guys around because of a lack of patience and then call for them to jerk a guy around due to a lack of patience.

  136. blee says:

    batters just seem to see his pitches really well out of his hand… phelps’ 92mph fastball gets in on batters a lot faster than hughes’ 92…

    also, that cutter/slider of his isnt different enough from his fb to create swings and misses.. just speeds up bats for harder contact… where’s that changeup?.. batters just look for fb or slow curve…

  137. TJ says:

    Comeback begins………

  138. jjyank says:

    I wonder if they could flip Phelps and Hughes. I know its SSS, but Phelps has looked good and Hughes might be better of as an Aceves type.

    • TJ says:

      Should have left Hughes where he was as the 8th inning guy and saved the money we blew on Soriano. Then maybe he could have developed closer stuff at some point. He simply does not have enough pitches to be a starter. Same as Joba.

      • Mike Axisa says:

        Joba absolutely has the stuff to start. That’s nonsense.

        • Havok9120 says:

          Well, so does Joba, but he was speaking of Hughes.

          • Havok9120 says:

            Oh wow, he DID say Joba at the end.

            What the heck??

            • TJ says:

              Yes meaning that Hughes and Joba both lack the pitch variety to be starters. You need at least 3-4 reliable pitches. Neither developed the variety.

              • Havok9120 says:

                There’s a host of starters with 2 very good pitches and 1 side offering that beg to differ.

                Even then, Joba had 3 very good pitches and one decent one, so your argument loses steam to begin with.

              • Havok9120 says:

                Heck, even Hughes has had a good fastball, a good cutter, and a great (at times) curveball, plus an illusive changeup.

                • TJ says:

                  Yeah, great. That’s why he’s headed to the pen.

                  • Havok9120 says:

                    But you’re arguing they shouldn’t have given either of them a chance. That’s madness. You go to the pen after you fail as a starter at some (generally multiple) level. You don’t start guys with 3 usable pitches there on the theory that they’ll be good enough to justify that.

        • TJ says:

          Fastball and slider, come on……

          • Mike Axisa says:

            curveball and change. Used the first three last year too.

          • Havok9120 says:

            Guy had (has?) 3 very good and one decent pitch. What are you talking about?

            • TJ says:

              So all those pitches are just fine, that’s why he’s a consistent “fail” as a starter but untouchable in the pen (before they messed with him). He had a way above average fastball and wicked slider out of the pen and occasionally used the others. As a starter you have to be able to throw a variety of pitches ANYTIME, not just blow fastballs and sliders with occasional use of the others. He could not do that.

              • Havok9120 says:

                0_o

                I’m not even going to bother. Its not worth it. You’re wrong, at least with Joba and almost certainly with Hughes. That is all.

                • TJ says:

                  Well, neither will be starting shortly so I suppose it’s moot as to why. The Yanks did a very poor job of developing both, either that or their ceiling was the pen to begin with. They both flamed out just the same.

                  • handtius says:

                    the yankees are limiting joba to the pen. doesn’t mean he can’t start. when his contract ends, i’m willing to bet, some signs him and makes him a starter and he dominates. just hope it’s not in the al east, especially the sox.

                • handtius says:

                  + awesome

        • handtius says:

          x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 + 1

      • Havok9120 says:

        ……

        How soon people have forgotten.

  139. TJ says:

    RALLY…….

  140. Pat D says:

    Didn’t get to see any of this game, nor will I from here, but when you lose Chris Iannetta when you had him 0-2, and give up a long home run to Howie Kendrick…….sigh. Really starting to wonder if he’ll ever get it together.

  141. Mike Axisa says:

    Kill them all Andruw.

  142. Tut says:

    The first thing Phil needs to do is shitcan that cutter/slider. The only person it’s fooling is Sterling.

  143. DM says:

    Hughes had enough stuff today, a coupla bad breaks — but no command and he doesn’t push through adversity. Instead of executing the big pitch and grinding through, he wilts instead. He gives up the jack where Nova would get the big double play. Hughes has some AJ Burnett in him. He runs out in front well but cant climb back into a game from behind. No Plan B — and his body language is awful when things don’t go well.

  144. Tom I says:

    RISP is not a forte.

  145. Chen Meng Wang says:

    Random question, is Brice Harper playing RF for Washington, or is he still in the minors?

  146. pistol pete says:

    And to think the the Yankee brass penciled in Hughes as their No 3 starter ahead of Nova based on 19 spring training innings, please. Hughes can’t get the last strike, has no out pitch and will kill the bullpen if he’s left in as a starter. Hughes will be the odd man out when Andy returns and should be in the pen.

  147. Jimmy McNulty says:

    I really hate Phil Hughes, I specifically slept an hour past starting time because I had a feeling he’d do this.

  148. TJ says:

    Phelps continues to look good.

    Man, could we have IPK back?

  149. TJ says:

    Never mind….

  150. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Well there goes the Cy Young campaign…

  151. Cy Pettitte says:

    wow Vernon Wells wtf

  152. aRX says:

    I think I’ll just keep this on as background noise and go do something else. There is zero entertainment value in watching this…

  153. Tom I says:

    Vernon Wells is a Yankee-destroyer.

  154. Johnny says:

    I’ve just started watching now. So what was wrong with Phil? Location? Speed? General “meh” pitching?

  155. Mike Axisa says:

    Good game for them to get 80+ pitches out of Phelps to keep his arm stretched out. No more of this two inning nonsense.

    • TJ says:

      agree, use him, the protection nonsense does not work.

    • Jimmy McNulty says:

      Silver linings!!!! Yeah, I had a feeling he’d be getting starts this year…may as well have him ready to start for Hughes or Garcia soon. He’s looked like he’s the man, lets give him a few shots.

      • Mike Axisa says:

        I think a lot would have to go wrong for him to get starts with Pineda and Pettitte due back soon enough.

        • Johnny says:

          Do you think they’ll make space to keep him in the bullpen? I don’t see how that would work, but I wonder if they’d try to trade Garcia or Hughes or something.

        • Jimmy McNulty says:

          ETA for Pettitte’s around June or so? Were still not sure he can be the Pettitte we know and love, right? I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if Pettitte doesn’t have it anymore, the guy’s old and had a year off from baseball…usually those two things don’t spell “awesome pitcher.” Pineda I’m pretty fucking worried about, I think it was you that said “predicting that young pitcher will get injured” is usually the safest prediction in baseball. I think Hughes will fall out of favor soon enough and Garcia’s junkballing days will be over soon enough too. That’s okay though, Phelps and Warren will be there to provide the depth that the Yankees need.

          • Johnny says:

            Stick to the narrative in the media. Pettitte will come back and save the Yankees from their rocky start. That’s the narrative, it must be true.

      • Havok9120 says:

        One of the two would have to get hurt. They aren’t pulling the plug on Hughes after 2 starts. They won’t pull the plug on Garcia at all until the reinforcements show up, not after last year.

        • Jimmy McNulty says:

          Hughes will pull the plug on himself, I have zero faith in him.

          • Havok9120 says:

            I get that, I’m just saying he’ll get a few more turns through the rotation. Unless Pineda or Pettitte are delayed significantly or he just totally implodes I think he’ll stick until they’re ready.

        • Tom I says:

          According to one of the Yankee blogs (maybe RAB), Jim Palmer said all the wild pitches from Garcia were from the humidity making the ball slick. I hope he is right.

          • Havok9120 says:

            With that, something was obviously off with the weather or….something. You don’t throw an outlier like that without intervening factors.

  156. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Hitting coaches tell hitters to guess where the pitch is going. Brilliant!

  157. StanfordBen says:

    Garbage time loud foul ball for Swisher.

  158. TJ says:

    Good time for a longball to make this a game.

  159. Will says:

    #shouldvesignedcj #shouldvekeptmontero #tradehughes #freephelps

  160. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    If we lose this game but get Cano going, that’s a tradeoff I’d take.

  161. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Well, damnit.

  162. Tom I says:

    Wow. Teix. He looks incredibly uncomfortable.

  163. Havok9120 says:

    He’s hitting right into the D, shift or no. It like the definition of unlucky. Sigh.

  164. Kostas says:

    Well that inning died quickly. Huge blown chances.

  165. TJ says:

    Good Darvsh is getting lit up

  166. Johnny says:

    Where did they pitch Alex yesterday, when he went 3-4 (or something) with the home run? I wasn’t paying attention, but we began hearing things a day or two ago about how he still can’t catch up to the inside pitch, the same problem he had last year. Wilson’s first pitch was right inside on him, and that reminded me of yesterday’s sudden resurgence. Were any of the pitches that he hit coming in inside?

  167. Cuso says:

    Eventually these guys will hit; the concern is how easily and often that it occurs that the entire middle of the lineup collectively (at the same time) doesn’t

  168. Johnny says:

    David Phelps, Motorin’. (What’s your price for flight?)

  169. Tom I says:

    Is anyone else seeing this Poe movie? Isn’t this just Sherlock Holmes with a less charismatic Robert Downey, Jr. as the lead?

  170. handtius says:

    prediction: phelps gets the cy-young and mvp this year. take that to vegas.

  171. Reggie C. says:

    Phelps may have gotten lucky with that Pujols at bat, but that’s just part of the game. This unheralded prospect is having a solid appearance. Phelps should be kept fresh whenever Hughes starts, which might not last beyond mid May.

  172. Chen Meng Wang says:

    I’m confident that if any team in baseball can come back from 6 down in the 6th it’s the Yankees. We have to start putting runs on the board soon though.

  173. TJ says:

    Is jeter going to be the rally killer?

  174. Kostas says:

    Bad ab by Jeter. Strike out coming.

  175. Will says:

    After passing up on CJ Wilson I really hope we’re able to sign Hamels. Not having a second lefty behind CC sucks. And with Banuelos struggling who knows when he’ll be up.

    • Johnny says:

      That second lefty’s name is Andrew Eugene Pettitte.

    • Havok9120 says:

      I still think we’re staying out of the FA class this year unless CC or Pineda implode. Signing another 20M+ per year pitcher sticking to the budget requires a total realignment of the rest of the team and I don’t see it.

  176. Kostas says:

    You could just see that coming.

  177. D-Rob da man says:

    Looks like girardi is stretching phelps back out to swap with hughes. Untill pettitte is ready.

  178. Johnny says:

    Dave appears to have lost the strike zone.

  179. TJ says:

    I blame spring training for bad games like these. No comebacks for the most part early in the year. Teams are not used to playing full games yet. Pitchers still have a big advantage.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Its not just that (and that is part of it; hitters are especially streaky early on) but we were down 7 by the time the bleeding stopped. Now we have a great offense, but 7 runs is a lot to ask in 5 turns from any team.

  180. D-Rob da man says:

    Our bullpen by aug should be exciting
    Mo drob sori hughes ardsma logan wade

  181. TJ says:

    Great ESPN game tomorrow, get ready to dust off the mute button

  182. Kostas says:

    WeLl that is it for today. Ugly game for a team that looked like they were righting things.

  183. Cy Pettitte says:

    Phelps is awesome.

  184. Johnny says:

    I like that Girardi is leaving Phelps in here. I assume Wade will come in for the ninth; in any case, this has been yet another fine outing for the Phelps.

  185. D-Rob da man says:

    Phelps needs to have the staduim play mission impossible music when he strikes out someone.

  186. Tyrone Sharpton says:

    How about putting sabathia in the bullpen every day he’s not pitching, to pitch innings 3-8

  187. Tom says:

    Random question: in a 6 run game, why have 2 pitchers warming?

    I understanding potentially pulling Phelps depending on how many pitches he throws, but does Girardi really need to have both a left and right option in a 6 run game?

    I guess one of them could be getting some side work in, but it seems odd.

  188. mustang says:

    Let Phelps finish!!!

  189. Needed Pitching says:

    why?

  190. stuart a says:

    yanks under 200 with RISp. Texiera is continuing his bad trend. arod some days looks 45 years old. lucky fat steinny bid against himself to give that loser a 10 year deal.

    on the Hughes front, things need to get better soon. he is no londer 21 years old. did not see the Ianetta cheapy but did see the gopher ball to Kendrick. Hughes has been a huge disappointment and they may want to look to trade him to the NL for some young offensive help. Hughes time is running out unless he gets things together soon.

  191. Chen Meng Wang says:

    I had the greatest dream last night. Cashman convinced the Orioles GM that Romine was going to be the next Johnny Bench and David Phelps was going to win multiple Cy Youngs and traded them for Matt Wieters.

  192. D-Rob da man says:

    I wonder if there is a bs injury coming up for hughes this week?

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Wouldn’t count on it. The Yankees don’t make decisions based on seven innings.

      • Tom says:

        Is he really any different than the end of last year? (maybe a slightly better curveball?)

        • Mike Axisa says:

          Hitters are actually swinging and missing at his fastball.

          • Greg says:

            That is true. But his secondary pitches are less than to be desired. This is why I think he is perfect for the pen. That fastball can be a great weapon coming from the pen

          • Tom says:

            But that’s only because he’s throwing high fastball after high fastball… at some point they are going to miss one (but foul off 2-3X more).

            Just looking at the game charts from Brooks, he rarely throws an inside 4 seamer and when he does it’s usually off the plate and a show me pitch… compared to Wilson or even Phelps who are trying to get outs with pitching inside as opposed to looking for a caught looking (backup cutter) or setting up something else (way inside 4 seamer)

            He threw two 4 seamers inside to lefties, one way off the play. He threw a total of 5 to righties (2 way off the plate that I think were simply setup pitches). I think he got a caught looking on one that he actually put on the the insider corner.

            It just seems like the only thing he knows to do with his fastball is to try and get outs up in the zone or waste it to set something else up (curve or backup cutter). At 94-95 in 2010 he could do that efficiently, at an average velocity of 92 (that’s where he was today on his 4 seamer), isn’t this what you get (a 5 inning/100pitch type pace)?

            I guess I’m wondering why it seems like people expect better results out of him, he seems like a fringe 4/5 rotation guy at best.

    • mustang says:

      No more like reality.

    • DM says:

      You never know with Hughes. They might say he caught Gardner’s flu — and then his watery eyes blinded him to Martin’s signs or something. But considering they got Phelps up so quickly, I think Phil’s previously extra-long leash of patience is now much shorter. No more excuses.

  193. Johnny says:

    Derek Jeter to hit a home run, demand it counts for 6

  194. Greg says:

    Well if you look at it, this was the matchup in the Angels’ favor, for sure.

  195. Zack says:

    HUghes failed and we couldn’t hit with RISP..could be a lonnng year.

  196. Bunt Gardner says:

    At least Swisher didn’t homer in garbage time.

  197. mustang says:

    Few more starts like this and Hughes is going to make the Andy/Pineda decision a no brainer.

  198. Howard Cosell says:

    It appears that Hughes is officially a head case – We need him to have 3 good starts if that is even possible and then trade him. I’m convinced this guy cannot handle the pressure of NY as a starter.

    I think he over thinks everything. Can he be a reliever here? I definitely think so and it makes sense he does well. He doesn’t have to over think – reach back and fire 94 -95 mph fastballs and mix in the curve/slider. No thinking. But we are loaded with relievers up and down the organization. Forget about him being a closer – he wont be able to handle that. We have plenty of setup guys.

    Wow what a disappointment the big 3 were – Joba, Hughes and Kennedy.

    On another team – not in a big city – a non playoff team – he’ll be a perfect 15-18 game winner….

    HC

    • Greg says:

      Kennedy was not a disappointment. NL West or not, he has turned into a successful pitcher.

      • Howard Cosell says:

        agreed he has been fantastic. My point was regardless who’s fault it was – the trio didnt work out for the Yankees. While I have this moment – I think the Yankees create an atmosphere that is tough to work under – some surpass it – Nova and maybe Phelps. But in reality they dont give the pitchers confidence behind the scenes – they are always looking for better- and that is tough with pitchers…. they only pitch every 5 days,

  199. Greg says:

    This is the one qualm I have had with the Yankees over and over again. It is their ability to develop quality starting pitching. Nova could be one, but I want to see more. Wang was great, but then he got injured.

    We just don’t have that Lincecum, Hamels, Lester, Cain, Holland, Verlander from our system. Now, part of the reason is that these homegrown aces are all drafted higher than the Yankees draft. Lincecum, Cain, Hamels and Verlander were all higher draft picks. But you find Lester (2nd round), Holland (25th round), Josh Johnson (4th round), Mat Latos (11th round) and you see that aces can be developed. And the Yankees have been crap at it. It turns out that the best pitcher we developed was the one we traded away (NL West effects included).

    • mustang says:

      “We just don’t have that Lincecum, Hamels, Lester, Cain, Holland, and Verlander from our system.”

      Neither does most of the league!

      IPK for Granderson I would it again right now
      .

    • Havok9120 says:

      You’re effectively asking us to be one of the best 3 or 4 player development franchises in the League. It would be nice, but it isn’t reasonable to expect. Teams don’t regularly grow aces.

      • Greg says:

        I’m not asking for regularly. I’m asking for ONE! Maybe two at most. Andy Pettitte was the last real ace that this organization has developed.

        • Havok9120 says:

          IPK counts then, even if he was traded. And if Nova turns out good as well, then we’re going pretty darn good.

          If you’re after a bona fide ace, you’re right, we don’t really produce them. Our best shot was probably Joba and we screwed him up. But we’ve only really had a true farm system since, what, 2006? And then during the suspension? Give it time. We’ll see what the remaining B’s can do.

  200. Zack says:

    It’s hard to develop aces these days..and more to the point,harder to get them too unless they go for free agency.

    • Greg says:

      Which makes it even more imperative to start really developing them. Teams are beginning to lock down their young aces leaving pitching markets like the last two years. Barren

  201. Greg says:

    The only teams that I can think of that haven’t developed quality starting pitching over the last 10-15 years are:

    -Pirates
    -Yankees
    -Orioles (I’m not counting Wang so in fairness, I won’t count Bedard either)
    -Mets
    -D-backs (for now)

    All other teams have developed a good quality pitcher.

    Royals- Grienke
    Indians- Sabathia and Lee
    Tigers- Verlander
    Astros- Oswalt
    Marlins- Josh Johnson
    Phillies- Hamels
    Nationals- Strasburg or Zimmerman
    A’s- Haren and Hudson
    Angels- Weaver
    Mariners- Hernandez
    Rockies- Jimenez
    Red Sox- Lester
    Padres- Latos or Peavy
    Giants- Cain and Lincecum
    Reds- Cueto
    Braves- Hanson, (not to mention the big three of earlier years)
    Cardinals- Wainwright
    Cubs- Zambrano
    Rays- Price, Shields among others
    Blue Jays – Romero and Halladay

    Let me know if I have forgotten anyone

    • Greg says:

      Rangers- Wilson

      • The Guns of Navarone says:

        Holland needs consideration too. He may be in the “wait and see” category but I’d be shocked it he didn’t develop nicely.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      You need to count Wang. They developed him. He was great. You can’t predict injury.

      Ivan Nova just began his second year in the rotation. Ian Kennedy was an All-Star, albeit for another team. This all counts.

      You spend all your time on this list, yet disrespect the team you’re supposedly so much a fan of that here you are.

      • Greg says:

        1. Ian Kennedy did not spend enough successful time with the Yankees, who drafted him, to qualify for this list. Everyone on this list spent quality time with their original teams.

        2. I said in my original post that Nova could be one, but I’m waiting to see more.

        3. When it comes to Wang, even though he was great for two years, he never really was the “guy”. All of these other pitchers, except for Tommy Hanson, was pinned as the “guy” or the “ace” of a rotation.

        • Havok9120 says:

          1. Is BS. We developed him; he is what he is because our system made it so. We traded him, got good value for him too, but that doesn’t mean we get no credit.

          2. Fair enough.

          3. That’s purely subjective. I mean…seriously? He was a fantastic pitcher, home grown, who was the guy we could most expect to go out there and win us a game as opposed to just “keeping us in it.”

          You can’t just ignore guys because they don’t fit your preconceived opinion, and that’s exactly what you’re doing here. If your point is that the organization cannot develop quality starters, that has nothing to do with whether they got injured or pitched for the MLB club; the organization still developed them.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      If you’re giving the A’s credit for Haren, you have to give the Yankees credit for IPK. Same deal with Smoltz for the Braves. Maddux is another matter entirely, that’s like giving the Yankees credit for CC.

      • Greg says:

        Didn’t know that Haren was a STL prospect. My bad. Cross him off.
        Still have Zito and Mulder

        I’m also going to put the Nationals in the Not yet section along with the D-Backs. Might do the same with the Braves with Hanson, Minor, and Beachy, although I am not sure because Glavine was drafted by the Braves

        So that makes it 7-8 teams.

    • mustang says:

      I guess I can see your point, but in the end Yankees have manage to be very successful in those 10 to 15 years even with their lack of a home grown ace.

      • mustang says:

        Out of the teams you listed above I only see one maybe 2 that can even mirror the Yankees success over the past 10 to 15 years.

      • Havok9120 says:

        I don’t. IPK and Wang count. We drafted and developed them whether they had long careers in pinstripes or not. I had much more respect for his argument before he started arbitrarily crossing Yankees (and only Yankees) off the list to make his point.

  202. DM says:

    I wonder if they’ll send Phelps down for 10 days and have him continue starting at AAA and mirroring Hughes at the big league level. They could call up a fresh arm since Phelps is now unusable for 4 days. They’re down a long man with no more off days until the 26th.

    • Havok9120 says:

      It would definitely be the smarter move to send him down and call up someone. One of Warren/Mitchell should be about to make another start so they should be ready to go.

  203. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Things have a habit of working themselves out, indeed. Hughes is going to be pitching for his life in five days.

    There is indeed a part of me that wants them to swap Hughes and Phelps in five days, but I can completely understand why they wouldn’t. Keeping the guy they can send down in the pen continues to give the team flexibility.

    Everyone knows I’m a Hughes supporter, but he continues to shoot himself in the foot by throwing too many pitches and making too many mistakes. Even I can admit time is running out, and quickly.

    • mustang says:

      Agree 100%

    • Havok9120 says:

      This in every way. I’ve been a Hughes guy all spring because we needed to see what we had. After two or three more turns through, we’ll more or less know. His only shot at being only marginally effective and remaining in the rotation is if Pineda/Pettitte are ready in mid-May and they ride him out until then just so he’s been given every chance.

  204. Tim says:

    When will Girardi and Cashman wake the fu%k up and put Hughes back in the bullpen where he thrives? He is NOT a quality starter. He IS a great reliever. PUT HIM BACK IN THE PEN!!!!

    • Havok9120 says:

      Sigh.

      And then people get so pissed when they make snap judgements about prospects. I agree he’s near the end, but lets not go overboard and act as if he should never have gotten a chance. Its this kind of thinking that ensured Joba was stuck in the pen during his entire remaining tenure.

  205. Tomm says:

    Phil Hughes simply hasn’t learned how to pitch. And Yankees fans, many of them, haven’t learned to accept the fact that this handsome tall impressive first round draft pick is a bust.

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