Game 24: Brighten Up
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One of these tonight, please. (Al Bello/Getty Images)
The weather in New York today seems to reflect my feelings about the Yankees at the moment. Just … blah. It’s overcast and has been raining on and off all day, kinda like how the Yankees seem to be going up and down over the last few weeks. The starting pitching has been mostly underwhelming but has improved of late while the offense started out well before some injuries robbed the club of some punch. It’s not ideal, neither the weather or the team’s recent performance. Here’s the lineup…
SS Derek Jeter
CF Curtis Granderson
DH Alex Rodriguez
2B Robinson Cano
1B Mark Teixeira
RF Raul Ibanez
3B Eric Chavez
LF Andruw Jones
C Russell Martin
RHP Ivan Nova
Tonight’s game is scheduled to start a little after 7pm ET, though the weather isn’t great in New York. It’s been drizzling on and off all day and that’s expected to continue all night. Not baseball weather, but unlikely to cause a postponement or significant delay. The game can be seen on YES locally and ESPN nationally. Enjoy.
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Kill it SuperNova.
instead of winning a $50 modells card or a lay’s party pack (whatever the hell that is), the yankees should let the winner of their stadium contests play rf for an inning, it’d be a good scouting opportunity
OT, but has anyone seen this disaster? Remind me why won’t they implement expanded replay, again?
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......id=8878968
yeah that was absolutely ridiculous
not sure replay is necessary there though, an umpire who didn’t have his head up his ass would suffice
This is true, but I feel like an awful lot of that has been happening in the last couple of years. This is not an isolated incident.
Wow. It’s a damn shame that the CBA focused on getting the playoffs expanded ahead of replay. Screw the accuracy of the game itself, we wanna make money. Stupid.
Yeah I saw that when it happened. That’s as bad as it gets.
Wow…that’s just an all around blown call by the ump. He wasn’t in a good position to make the call, which is behind the bag in foul territory, and then completely blew it….If I was Mattingly I would stay on the field until well after being tossed or until I got the call overturned somehow.
Totally thought this was a My9 game for a solid minute.
Na, it’s not rained out, so it’s not on My9. Haha.
Jeter has to come up with that ground ball on Hardy. Not sure if he would have been able to throw him out though
Even Robbie doesn’t trust Ibanez
Somebody call the fire marshal, that stadium is WAY over capacity.
/sarcasm?
It’s a rainy May game against the Orioles. What do you expect?
Robbie Cano is the pop-up master.
I like Cano’s throw.
Cano can just cover RF too. Ibanez is basically worthless out there.
He’s probably worse than worthless, he probably costs the team full wins in terms of WAR because of his defense.
how does girardi put ibanez out there??
What is his other option? Girardi seems to be getting too much blame for the ROSTER. His choice is literally Nunez or Ibanez.
you prefer Nunez?
Yes, I prefer Nunez.
I prefer anyone else
bullshit, cut ibanez and bring up any outfielder they can from aaa. who cares if he can hit. just keep him until swisher gets back.
then who is the backup SS/2B
nevermind, reading fail
nunez, i know there would probably have to be some shuffling of the 40 man to bring up another OF, but they have to get it done. this is not good. ibanez is less than worthless to the yanks if he is playing the outfield
Again, not Girardi’s job.
Can’t tell from Sterling – was Nova being overly careful pitching to Wieters, or is he getting squeezed?
No those were balls… he seemed to be pitching around him
Looked like a couple of the balls on the outside corner could’ve gone for strikes, especially with this huge outside corner I’ve seen to lefties all season.
from gameday anyway.
They wanted no part of him.
SuperNova!
Binder wins for once
Binder wins most times, we just always remember when it doesn’t
And that’s how you get out of a tough spot. Take notes, Phil Hughes.
good RISPfail
Great job getting out of that.
The starter version of David Robertson…. Ivan “Houdini, Jr” Nova?
Nova, in that long inning threw 24 pitches; contrast that with Hughes good 1st inning where he threw 21 pitches in a relatively clean inning (1 baserunner)
So, I’m really confused. I brought up calling up Colin Curtis a couple threads ago, I thought he had options left and could be called up and sent down without being exposed to waivers. Somebody said that he had been DFA’d to be taken off the 40 man and couldn’t be optioned anymore. Is that true and if so, how the hell does that work?
He has options left, at least one and maybe two.
Dickerson’s out of options, right?
Yep.
That’s what I thought. So he could be called up and optioned back down after being added to the 40 man then right?
Yeah, I didn’t mean to make it seem like I was sure, I wasnt. I thought once you DFA a player, the next time you want to send him down he is exposed to waivers. I concede that I certainly may have been mistaken.
Andruw playing against a righty? WTF?!?!?! Did Girardi loose the Binder?
Haha na, Girardi just has no outfielders.
Thank god, I got scared…I need to make sure that Girardi knows exactly what to do under any circumstance, at any time.
Better Jones than Nunez.
Jones>Nunez>>>>Ibanez
Jones>Nunez>>Ham Sandwich>>Ibanez
Jones>Mariano Rivera>Nunez>Ham Sandwich>>Chavez>>>Ibanez
I think Ham Sandwich may be better than Nunez, based on SSS
Jonez>>>Nunez>>2 man outfield>Ibanez
I’m leveling out a table in Skip’s office tonight…
WWWRBW?
Blue Jays again kick Texan ass.
I am the only one who’s seriously worried about Cano?
Me too. But then I’m also seriously worried about ARod.
Worried about Alex yes, Cano I think will find away to be >.300 by seasons end.
Yup.
I’m not worried about a guy in his prime who has been an offensive stud for the last 2-3 years.
Yeah, nothing about his start is overly worrying. His walk rate and k rate are fine and he’s in his prime years for power, so his low ISO isn’t worrying me. He’s a guy who’s production is heavily conditioned on BA, so he’s bound to have down periods like this. He’ll be fine.
seeing nova pitch the day after hughes makes me think make up is a more vital part of the game than i would have thought before
The Yanks must be starting to think that too. Since a large part of their explanation for drafting Bichette and Culver was make-up.
Maybe that’s why the Yankees have been drafting those kind of guys.
Where’s Branyan/yon(?)? Is he still hurt? Is he even with the Yankees still?
Still hurt. Not coming back anytime soon.
Damn. I would’ve liked his bat in the lineup every so often . . . Sad face.
Barely got near a pitch in Tampa this season, what makes you think he woulda been worth a shit here now?
Don’t like the 0-2 to a walk to the #9 hitter.
I hate the “setup” pitch to weak hitters. He goes high fastball to setup the slider away… but if/when you miss that pitch then it’s 2-2 and the AB becomes a grind to a a guy you should just try to put away at 0-2.
Nova’s command is off with his fastball tonight. Good thing he’s facing the Orioles
Arrieta looks good.
Is Arrietta a butcher? Because he’s carving this team to shreds! ZING!!!
Seriously. Did the Orioles like radioactively infuse Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay DNA into their pitchers this year?
I’m almost confident that Professor Xavier and General Stryker combined forces to aid Buck’s Fighting Schowalters. If you listen closely you can also hear the ping adamantium when the ball glances off their bodies. Or should I have gone with a Captain America reference? Either way, I’m actually quite pumped for The Avengers.
Jake Hall-Lee-Eta?
Argh. Tex grounding out on ball 4 and Ibanez swinging at a 2-0 pitch. Y U NO TAKE YOUR WALKS YANKEES?!
The 2-0 pitch is the best pitch to hit in baseball.
Well I thought the pitch before to Teix was strike 3, so…
nice inning for Nova, helps out the pitch count too
nice inning Ivan Nova
Does anyone know if Abreu cleared waivers. I’m sure he will since nobody would be crazy enough to pick up his money. He’ll be a free agent. He can sign anywhere and I feel he’d be an upgrade over Ibanez and for league minimum money it’s well worth the change.
Is he better than Ibanez? I’m not so sure. He’s a pretty terrible fielder as well. If Abreu was never a Yankee before, would you still want him?
Over Ibanez yes and as long as the Yanks are not going to spend any money then why not, what’s to lose.
Abreu is terrible now. Not a worthwhile upgrade.
Alot of balls near that RF fence, for one thing… My two memories of Abreu were him in the HR derby with the Venezuelan Flag draped on him, and him getting jitters from the RF fence in OYS
Jack Arrieta doing his best 2010 Phil Hughes impression.
Arrieta is pitching economically, annoying.
The Stadium is dead and I don’t blame them. These guys are just going through the motions. There is no reason this offense should be doing this poorly. Two starters are down but the rest of the lineup is still better than most clubs.
Which team has worst BABIP this year? Sometimes it feels like its us.
When’s the brass going to DO SOMETHING about Martin? This isn’t fair. Actions MUST be taken. An automatic out should NOT be acceptable at the ML level.
Fourth highest OBP on the team at the moment.
STOP MAKING SENSE!
Haha, I think that’s a referendum on our line up at this point…
That’s more of a knock on the whole offense
Welcome to the world of non-Posada catchers.
Which is why I was in favor of keeping Montero, no matter how bad a backstop he could’ve been.
Sterling decided to take a measured approach tonight. Huh. I thought that was going to be caught.
Should’ve just walked him.
with this offense, that might be the ballgame (half kidding)
No. You’re right. Don’t be ashamed. A series loss to Baltimore at home is despicable. This team is dead without Gardner and Swisher. They each bring something valuable and unique to the table and I miss them both.
Despicable? Wow, relax dude. It’s still early in the season, series loses to bad teams happen.
One: Don’t tell me to relax. Ever. Two: It would BE despicable. Period.
One: I just did. Get over it. And two. No series loss this early in the season is despicable. The O’s play the Yankees tough all the time, stop overreacting.
Again. Your propensity for telling others what to do . . . What a nasty habit. I reserve the right to do whatever I damn well choose, even without your consent, surprisingly. And, also, it’s not overreacting. It’s the truth. Deal with it.
Losing a series against the O’s in early May is not “despicable”. How is that a fact? I’m not telling you what to do, but I thought trying to relax might help your blood pressure. This isn’t football, there are more than 16 games. All is not lost.
losing 2 games to a second place team (currently, obviously I don’t expect that to last) when missing 2 key members of the lineup is despicable??
holy unrealistically high standards Batman
Nothing drives home a point by saying “period.”
Would you rather I resort to some dick-ish retort painted in a thick, glossy coat of sarcasm like you’re so renowned for making? Period.
Trollololol.
Yup. You got me. Right on. Full on troll. Way to go, kiddo. You hit the nail on the head. Sweet. Good for you. Period.
If the shoe fits…
Responses like that don’t help your cause.
Can “period” become the new meme? I’m enjoying it.
BTW, WTF calls people “trolls”? You disgust me. You’re despicable. Period.
Ha well that sealed my opinion. “Period” it is. I will no longer feed the “despicable period” trolls. Good day sir.
Wieters > Yankees, guy owns us this year.
And that might be the difference in the ballgame. Nobody on this offense looks like they’re going to do anything tonight.
Solo shots don’t break you. Nova’s fine.
That pitch didn’t even look all that bad to Weiters… however down 2-0 a hitter can sit on that.
Look out world…. here comes NICK JOHNSON!
…….I thought Jeter had a play at first pretty easily
So based on the season so far, payrolls greater than 125 mill mean no offensive production against weaker teams. #failure
Is Andino that much of a pull hitter?
Cano almost got to that ball on the SS side of 2nd base before Jeter did.
Girardi seems hellbent on playing people to pull as much as possible.
Nova’s pitch count: 62 through 4. At least I have the comfort of knowing that if Hughes was 62 through 4, he’d also have given up 4 runs.
What is it? Sad sack night at RAB?
theres not much to be happy about. there is a dead man patrolling rf, cano and tex absolutely suck this year, and the entire team has not hit in quite a few games
Finally someone doesn’t just take the first pitch fastball.
Not to pile on, but when was the last time a Yankee lineup had these OBP in spots 4 – 9:
.308
.276
.288
.313
.293
.329
1910?
Robbie is just a little bit off.
Cano’s just not getting the bat out in front of pitches.
uggh…ugly
Wow. Cano really DOES suck right now.
I’ve never seen Cano swing and miss so much ever.
Swing at crap, watch a good pitch, swing at crap. Thanks, Teix!
I got to say… This team is in a craaaaaaaay zee funk with the stick. Depressing…
Pathetic. 4-9. Nothing. Cano and Tex should be ashamed of themselves.
Our offense looks a little lost right now…
Hah just realized that my opponent in fantasy baseball has both Arrieta and Nova. That’s interesting.
I sat Matusz in my 10 team AL-only Roto last night and Arrieta in my 20 team H2H tonight.
Oops.
I get it. I sat Boesch when the Yankees played the Tigers, and he made me look stupid.
This is too frustrating to watch. I know it’s only one game and it’s the beginning of the season but sheesh everyone looks like crap. Now I know how frustrating it is for Mariners fans to watch a scuffling lineup.
It’s also a 1 run game with the Yankees coming to bat 5 more times.
Tex needs to bat ninth. Just so unproductive at times.
I guess this is what it’s like to be a Giants fan.
LOL, this is what Chavez Ravine feels like
Attention new york yankee offense, this isn’t the post season yet.
They always say you can’t have enough pitching, how about you can’t have enough hitting. Wow are these guys slumping, even Robbie. And Tex is having his usual April. Add to that guys like Swish and Gardy who were hot got hurt and all of a sudden the lineup looks weak.
But….. It’s May
Wow… I hate to say it but I think a rod gets to that ball
Why? It was hit hard, and Chavez is still a very good defender. That’s a hit.
I think A rod gets a better jump on it. not taking it away from Chavez, just a rod is faster to that one is all…
Nova’s been giving up a lot of hits
“nice play by Ibanez” that’s one thing I never thought I’d here.
We’re in trouble, guys. The Orioles are out developing us and it shows. They’re going to be the Rays when they get more starting pitching. Our offense looks old and overmatched.
The Orioles are going nowhere. Again.
OMGOMGOMGOMG…. LET’S JUMPPPPPP!
What? I thought the O’s were like, one of the worst teams at developing players?
I thought you were joking. I even wrote it in my diary, “Clyde Barrow had a very funny joke today.”
did singleton really just say nice play?
he caught it … for Ibanez, that’s a nice play
Ibanez lunging at a ball any other RF gets to without a hitch. You stay classy, Raul
Maybe a better right fielder prevents the runner from going to third
Okay, I like when he works out of trouble. I wish he didn’t do it so often, but if he keeps posting 0s, I can’t complain.
He’s got a Pettitte-like nature to him.
Keep posting 0s Nova. Let’s get that offense going.
That’s the AJ we know and love.
Y’know why we can’t develop pitchers?
Because the first time they struggle (which 90% of all young starters do), the organization looks to jettison them and the fans want them sent down.
We talk about Pettitte and Wang, but they didnt have the early career arc of most. They didn’t struggle for a month early on. They didn’t get sent down they were so good.
Nova was allowed to start late in 2010, only because the playoff spot was more or less in the bag. We almost lucked into him. Would he have been looked at the same had his Aug-Sep 2010 performance come in April-May 2010?
Such is the curse of a team that’s always contending. I don’t want the Yanks to have a losing season, but sometimes I think it might benefit them in player development.
Chavez: made of glass. Damn it.
Uh oh, that might be it for Chavez if it’s his back.
ERIC CHAVEZ IS DYING
2 men bench down to 1… thank you Girardi and Cashman
What the heck happened to Chavez?
Way to go Yankees roster construction!
Maybe Chavez’s injury will FINALLY be enough for them to call up Wise or someone.
Chavez got dizzy from trying to figure out how he hasn’t gotten injured yet
Hahaha this made me actually laugh out loud
Best comment of the night.
Dizzy.
That looked very sad.
Good job Yankees not bringing up another player. Idiots.
Sabathia will be playing right field by the end of the night.
Wow… Eric Chavez gets hurt doing….. Nothing.
And the blind squirrel award goes to…. Eduardo Nunez!!!
Just got home to see Chavez being helped off. Anyone know what happened?
Also, this is why you don’t play with a shorthanded bench. Maybe this will finally knock that into Joe and Cash’s thick skulls.
Hopefully Chavey is OK.
Not even sure CHavepz knows what happened, but I am sure it will involve a cast
Maybe he blew out his ear drum or something.
That’s a really weird injury. Can’t remember anything like that offhand.
Did he hit his head diving for that ball last inning? I couldn’t tell. But it kind of seemed like he was dizzy or something, he kept touching his head.
Chan Ho Park says hello
so maybe Chavez got hit by a sudden bout of diarrhea?
No, Chan Ho Park say “…where’s the bathroom??!!?”
Remember Thames stepping on his bat?
who broke Chavez
this is funny
Now they can recall a 14th pitcher.
Don’t tease me bro…
Sincerely,
Nelson Figueroa
So, let’s say Ibanez gets hurt. Stewart is then the RF. Then a pitcher is gonna have to be the back up C. Please bring someone up.
Nunez in RF, Martin at 3rd, Steward at C
Goddam DH swap out rule.
still terrible roster management.
I don’t even think the Yanks with Girardi and Cashman could F this up, if there isn’t a position (or 2) player brought up tomorrow, I’m driving to New York and hunting those 2 dumb@sses down…
I don’t know where you’re driving from, but your best bet is to not get to the NYC area between the hours of 5am-8am, or 4pm-8pm
Driving from Minneapolis, so I should leave right about now…18 hours
yeah, lol that would actually be perfect.
that’s a great strategy, to watch fastballs that are clearly strikes and swing at breaking balls that are clearly out of the zone..
This is why Kevin Long gets the big bucks, mister.
Curry just tweeted that Chavez issue will likely force the Yanks to call up a position player because they can’t play with a 1 man bench.
That’s what he thinks…
Challenge accepted!!!!!!
Cash and the Yanks have two words,
Watch This.
they will call up a long man instead
So, we’re calling up a bullpen pitcher tomorrow then?
RT @timbullus: @MarcCarig pretty sure Chavez just swallowed a dip / that’s an interesting theory
if this turns out to be true that’s quite lame.
Mitchell looks like an athelete. Maybe he could play OF in the pinch.
Yankees so damn good we play 24 while others play 25. Yeah, because we bad. Don’t need no stinking bench. Gotta have extra loogys and roogys. And 2 long men ’cause our starters don’t go 5. Is Brooks Kieschnick still alive?
Or Micah Owings?
So, Chavez to the DL due to swallowing?
Wow. It’s the Orioles.
Today could be Mo’s lucky day. Wanna play CF?
hooray, loud drunk guy withing the mic’s broadcasting strength.
I think that’s Cashman!!!
we should trade for Ayala and his comically large glove to play the OF
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......8;c_id=mlb
Haha that’s awesome. I’m sure he couldn’t be worse than Ibanez.
OK is it just me or are alot of pitches getting away from Russ this season?
So I’m not crazy, cuz I’ve been seeing it too.
Martin is over-rated as a defensive catcher. He’s average. Nothing special.
This has always been true though. We were just so used to Jorge that we were amazed when our regular catcher was average defensively.
Fans might be amazed but the organization should be sharp enough to see his true value.
But even at this, he has been letting alot by him this season. More so than last year at least.
There’s been a WP for every 14.93 innings of Martin behind the plate this year, compared with 20.08 innings last year, and 24.0 for his career.
Girardi needs to send Nova out for the 7th, save the bullpen a bit. He’s at 97 pitches which generally means auto-pull for guys not named CC.
….and maybe Girardi and Cash will get their heads out of their asses and cut the pen down to 7 and call up a position player
Damn…. that was an easy DP ball without the WP
it seems like Martin has allowed a huge number of wild pitches this season… regressing D and no O = great catcher
Yeah but high OBP. Whoopee!
Hey, if that’s what Mr. Axisa says, then it’s the truth. That’s all that matters.
Yes that awesome OBP (yawn)
So extremely OT… But RIP Junior Seau. He was pretty awesome in his day and always seemed to be one of the nice guys in the game.
There are as many empty seats as there are holes in the Yankees lineup.
Nova is a battler.
Translation: he’s a middle of the rotation starter.
But is he gritty?
Na his skin is too dark. I believe that makes him “athletic”. Amidoingitrite?
no, no, no. If he’s dark skinned and gritty it means he’s firey.
At least he’s not lazy.
/Salty’d
Those are two walks that probably should have been strikeouts. Can’t catch a freaking break anywhere.
Yankee baseball!!!!! Woooo!
thats a big hole for our 2-man offense to overcome
Jeter and Granderson have to hit dingers, cuz nobody gonna drive em in.
I think that’s probably about it. We can’t barely get a baserunner let alone 2 runs. The Os are legit and they’re kicking our asses in developing young players. This lineup just looks old.
“they’re kicking our asses in developing young players.”
Really? If the O’s were even semi-competent at developing players, they would know be a last place team. Are you joking? I can’t tell. The O’s are one of the worst teams out there in player development, worse than the Yankees.
Yes, but they have a eugenics program. We don’t.
Our second oldest regular is doing the most hitting. They just look bad.
Oh, come on, the O’s are playing with 25 guys on the roster. No fair, boo!
Nice job by Nova to limit the damage to 1 run. Now if only this offense could score some fucking runs. Only 3 in the last 23 innings, ugh.
Um. Thank Nunez for that, nova has been giving up seeds
Notice the difference between managing a Hughes 6th inning and a Nova 6th inning. Down by 2 runs in both games, 2 outs — Logan comes in for Phil, no one even warming up for Nova.
Hughes was at 100 pitches with 1 on and 2 outs. Nova completed the 6th with 97 pitches.
yeah, that’s why
Right. Nova had 2 on with 1 out — and still no action in the bullpen — even with the walks. Forget bringing someone in; no one was even up in the bullpen.
And he was still left in to try to get Wieters out — even though he homered off him.
oh hey a baserunner.
and, no more.
Well at least the “easy” part of the schedule is coming up.
The O’s used to be an easy part of the schedule.
Still are, just not when they play the Yankees who have neede extra innings just to beat them twice.
Get the lucky single, give up the first pitch DP. The Yankee 2012 way.
The crowd should just go home right now. This team isn’t worth watching.
fairweatherfan’d
Clyde needs to hop over to the O’s bandwagon.
He’ll be back in a month, tops.
I called the O’s to win 85 games last year but they look like they will be able to pull it off this year if they don’t completely fall off a cliff
thats what happens when you have aging position players and you trade away your only hope of an above average bat (for a damaged good no less). It’s time to hold the FO and especially Cashman accountable for his awful decisions
*Sigh* I guess it’s too much to ask to have a thread without a Montero mention.
I know. Sigh. I’m doing my part: a protection circle of salt and never saying his name–just Oretnom Susej–anything to break the spell he has over the Living Dead.
Well that was not good. For a piece of good news. Manny Banuelos pitched well. Only went 3.2 innings, 2 hits 0 R, 5 K’s. 60 pitches 1st start back after the DL. I find it more fun this year to follow the minors at this point.
First to 3 runs wins this game.
If the Yankees shut the O’s down the rest of the way, they win this.
I really, really hope so.
Well now I hope it is first to 4. I though the Yankees would be able to pick up 2 and send it to extras or 3 and win it in 9.
Now first to 5 maybe?
First to 6?
Goodnight.
I hope they look better on tv than on game day because this team has moved beyond embarrassing. This is the equivalent of the Greek bailout- 200 million flop
Jeez guys what the hell? above .500 in early May and words like “despicable” and “beyond embarrassing” are getting thrown out. Can I link to this comment when they Yankees go on a 10 game tear and take first place in June?
+1
There are only two things that are embarassing:
1) The roster management by Girardi/Cash – 2 LOOGY’s, now 2 long man, 2 man bench, etc…..
2) The leash on Garcia and Hughes (which thankfully is now just about gone)
technically “beyond embarrassing” is a phrase, not a word.
I said “words”. “Beyond embarrassing” is both a phrase and a collection of “words”. But thanks for your input.
than wouldn’t it have been correct to say “words and phrases like”? technically speaking?
The likelihood of this team winning 10 games in a row in this form? A solid 0%.
Sure, every slumping team looks bad. If you really think that the Yankees are not capable of that at any point, then why do you even bother watching?
This team has been slumping since the first game. Maybe they are to old to play a kids game .
It’s been 1/6 of the season. Maybe you don’t have enough patience for baseball?
Baseball yes. Poor effort and results, no. After tonight the Yanks will a game or a game and a half out of last place. They are paid to much money to perform like interns.
It’s May 2nd. The standings are practically irrelevant now unless you’re the Angels and 8 games back or whatever it is.
I have faith that they’ll win because Nova doesn’t lose.
Bomb
Why have Rapada up if they don’t fucking use him against Markakis?
Girardi (post-game): Novie was throwing well, even after 105 pitches. I was comfortable with him facing the lefty hitters for the fourth time through. Novie’s a battler. Who knew?
Meanwhile Giambi is still bashing, after being all washed up and let go. Could he be worse than our dh daily?
The loudest the crowd has been, throwing back Markasis’ HR.
Getting our asses kicked by the O’s.
There is the game and series.
so, I feel like this is like quantum physics…if we stop observing the particles(the team) maybe they will start functioning, because it has been proven that when you view particles they are stationary, whenever you look away they move.
My head hurts.
and they know when they’re being watched! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.....experiment
I understand it’s only wiki, but I don’t feel like paying money for physics journals that all say the same things. Btw, your brain will hurt if you read this…
I think you’re onto something. There has to be a pitching equivalent of the double slit experiement and a quantum version of Eduardo Nunez who can both field and hit.
Well, for a quantum version of Eduardo Nunez who can both field and hit, we’d have to assume the existence of parallel universes, exactly like ours with that one difference. Meaning there’s a hole shit ton of other dimensions that link them in some way…I’d love to see somebody write an equation to make the Eduardo Nunez theory of multiple universes work.
I shall work on it. I can’t watch this game and I have to do something besides watch MI-5 episodes.
Thanks for the heads up. I’ll go ahead and not click on that link then haha. I’ll stick to International Regime Theory.
I like this plan.
because it has been proven that when you view particles they are stationary, whenever you look away they move.
Did you learn physics from a cereal box?
Oh, it’s actually the scientific evidence behind the whole “watched pot never boils” thing.
no, wiki and the science channel, whilst vaguely paying attention to either. It’s more of a leisure thing for me than a field I actually study.
This is why our country is behind in the sciences.
I swear there are threads like this every year.
“Cashman needs to be held accountable”
“The offense sucks”
“This team has no heart/isn’t worth watching”.
Not to say that these statements are somehow invalid (they all have a point). Just adding some perspective.
I’m sure there was more than a couple in 09
Anyone know if Phelps will be on a pitch count tomorrow? Is he good for 100 pitches, or less after spending a few weeks in the bullpen?
I think I read 75-90 somewhere
I’d say 90 would be likely the high end of what they would allow
So Girardi has every reliever and his brother in the bullpen and he’s leaving his starter in there for 115 pitches. WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MANY PITCHERS IN THE BULLPEN!!!!!
this is the same guy who likes intentional walks, bunts, and Ibanez playing the outfield, I don’t see how you can possibly be doubting him.
Girardi: It’s effing freezing out there tonight. I was in a warm spot in the dugout. Leave me alone, will ya!
Now we can’t even say that Nova pitched a good game.
Certainly wouldn’t want to overwork that 13 man bullpen.
My thoughts exactly. This whole situation is getting to be a bit ridiculous.
Why are hanging Nova out to dry with an extra bullpen arm?
fuckin FUCK
Girardi left Nova out there to dry. He had no business coming out for this inning. It could have still been 2-0 had the pen been used effectively but we wouldn’t want to overwork them would we? Most of them are just collecting dust.
The moment I come on here and see that I actually agree with ClydeBonnieHester is the moment I know I shouldn’t bother with tonight’s Game Thread.
Joe you have Soriano in your bullpen, why the fuck is the kid throwing 110+pitches in the 7th?
Highest paid 7th inning guy in baseball just sitting around? Nah, lets just let Nova start the inning and then send in Clay Rapada.
wtf? I thought Chavez just swallowed his tobacco, now I’m hearing possible concussion and whiplash? what in gods name happened?!
That dive I guess. Didn’t look like a violent dive, but Chavez is made of glass.
I don’t see how he could have gotten a concussion/whiplash from that. Maybe he really is made of glass…
Dove for a ball down the line. Didn’t look that bad at the time…or on the replay. But his head must have snapped back some.
Could be Vertigo.
Had that a couple months ago. Scary stuff.
If it makes anyone feel better, bad AJ has returned to give up 7 ER in 2 innings.
Ouch, just ouch. Knew I should have loaded up on Cardinal position players in pick 6 tonight.
Joe Girardi kept Nova in because of that stupid win streak.
lol
What’s sad is you’re absolutely correct.
This actually seems relatively plausible, unfortunately.
That’s actually plausible, which is the most ridiculous thing about this night.
And that’s saying something.
It’s close to a fireable offense. As bad as Cashman deciding not to add a real outfielder to the roster.
Hey Joe, good seein ya. I figured you were talking with Cash on which long man to bring up for tomorrow, and that’s why you didn’t bring in Rapada to face Markakis? Or maybe you were talking to Kevin Long about how “hey all the batters are still takin their A swing’s”
Concussion for Chavez? uh, I’ve seen everything now. that replay clearly shows his jaw, head, no part of his head hit that ground. I’m sure that’s gonna put him out a few months.
Chavez and Nick Johnson both might as well be made of glass
Joe, your mixing and matching came a little bit too late.
Soriano, Wade, Logan, Rapada, Mitchell, Garcia…
They earn every penny right?
Well, see, we don’t want to overwork the bullpen so early in the season. We’re headed into a tough stretch of baseball and all.
We just came out of Boston, Texas and Detroit….
True. I wasn’t exactly serious there.
Where’s DeWayne Wise when you (*cough*) “need” him?
Times are bad when fans are calling for DeWayne freakin Wise.
Banuelos is pitching well. There’s one piece of good news tonight.
Yes. 3.2 innings, 2 Hits, 0 Runs, 5 K’s and 0 walks. Only 60 pitches being his first game off DL…
I’ll take the positive news. Hope he keeps it up.
Hope this finally brings to light the complete silliness that is carrying 13 pitchers on a 25 man roster. And even worse, not using one of those bullpen arms against Wieters in the 7th…..
And yet, a pass will be given to Girardi for this strategy. Another pass will be given to Tex for his offensive suckiness. And Nova, who actually pitched a pretty good game, will be left to take the blame.
Tex and Cano really need to step it up. Jeter and Granderson can’t carry the offense alone. A-Rod is getting on base…for nothing.
Nova’s not really pitching very well at all. He had the 2nd worst OPS against in the majors coming into tonight’s start. And tonight wasn’t an improvement.
6 innings and 2 runs allowed at that point….
For some strange reason, Girardi allowed him to pitch to Wieters again with Jones on base, and with Nova at his highest pitch count ever. Yet, we’re sitting on tons of bullpen arms….
Go ahead and put that 7th inning on Nova, if you want. But then you’d have to explain why Wade, Garcia, Logan, Rapada, Eppley are even on the roster. Notice I didn’t mention Soriano or Robertson.
I mostly agree, Nova clearly was left in too long, but Nova did allow 11 baserunners in the first 6 innings. He pitched well with runners on base, but needed a line drive dp to bail him out of the sixth as well. He did fine limiting the damage until the seventh, but really didn’t pitch all that great overall, similar to how he has pitched all season, giving up tons of baserunners.
Exactly, at which point, he’d gotten you 6 innings and even with all of that, only allowed 2 runs. Strong enough for me, plus his pitch count was up.
No idea why he was sent out there to pitch the 7th, much less to face Wieters, who’s batting .500 vs. Nova with 4 HRs.
There are plenty of other arms in the bullpen. You stacked them up, now use them. A 2 run deficit went to 5 really fast.
Is he actually pitching that much better than Hughes? His ERA is close to 6 and his WHIP is astronomical.
lasts deeper into games
does a better job of limiting damage
but overall, he’s definitely been very shaky
The real difference is Hughes’ absurd HR rate. Otherwise, Nova has given up more hits and baserunners.
and Nova: 76.9% LOB
Hughes: 56.7% LOB
Well, at least if we lose people might shut up about Nova’s stupid win streak.
Of course, having said that, they will score five to tie and lose on a Wieters homer in the eighth. But hey! At least Nova’s streak lives!
Interesting to me that you’d call a *win streak by any Yankees pitcher stupid. Odd sort of fandom.
I think he is pointing to wins for a pitcher is a highly overrated statistic, one which knowledgeable fans shouldn’t pay attention to much, if at all.
But yet it’s still the only thing they add up to let teams into the playoffs….
Regardless, being glad that a Yankees pitchers win streak is over seems…. wrong.
So you’d rather have Joe be a “slave to the streak” as he arguably was tonight and other nights as well?
That alone will lose us games.
I hear the yankees are considering calling up Adam Warren tomorrow with the extra spot on the roster.
I bet it’s Ramiro Pena.
2 starting OFs go down, and they bring up 2 more pitchers???
Nice at bat from Robbie.
+1.
Anyone else get the sense they are going to score 2 or 3 and those 3 runs in the top of the inning are going to loom large?
Always happens like that.
only one out for Teix, so hey! atta boy!
with all the stupid talk about bunting against the shit…of all times to do it, why not down 5 with a runner at first, and no out?
does Teix ever get tired of being so predictable?
He is what he is. That’s why players inevitably decline with age. It’s exceptionally hard to re-create yourself after doing it one way for more than a decade.
Except he -did- reinvent himself, after the Yankees signed him. His even stroke became a straight uppercut, and the guy who was a .300+ hitter for years became Adam Dunn.
teixeria is trash
That uppercut is the ugliest swing in baseball. GFY Teix.
Anyone else worried about the yanks screwing up Jose Campos? a little off topic but, this games ugly.
History has shown that we possibly should be. He’s creeped into the top Yankees pitching prospect realm. That alone should cause skepticism.
Maybe they could draft Only relievers and position players and get all their starters from free agency.
No, I think they’ve learned their lessons from Joba/Hughes. They did the right thing by Nova, Phelps, Warren, and Mitchell and seem to be doing the right thing with Banuelos and Betances.
They promoted Banuelos after a half season after struggling in AA… not sure that’s handling him well. Struggle with command and then promote him to a league with even more patient hitters?
Other than wanting to have the youngest or 2nd youngest player in the International League, not sure why he was promoted to AAA last year. (Betances other than being age appropriate for AAA probably didn’t warrant a promotion either)
I think as long as they get there due time developing in the minors is all that counts. I’m just sick of watching these guys babied so much down there. stay down there, but get your damn innings in…
If I hear any mention of “Campos rules” or phrases of that nature, I’m gonna lose it…
If that happens I will straight murder the front office guy who first says it, the guy who repeats it to the media, and the first journalist to publish it.
Off topic, but Roy Halladay pitching gave up 8ER tonight. The Philly offense gave him a 6 run lead too.
Wow. That’s insane. Has he done that since he was remade by toronto?
I remember seeing some stat not too long ago where he never lost if he got 5 or 6 run lead. Philly scored 3 to get him off the hook for the loss (game’s still going)
Girardi waving the white flag with Freddy.
Hey Freddy Garcia. Good that he can make an appearance. picking up right where he left off.
OK I gotta ask, why do people keep prefacing their comments with “off topic, but…” in game threads, when there’s no such this as off-topic in game/open threads?
Now Girardi has an excuse to start Freddy again.
Garcia to the rotation!
So wait, Chavez is getting tested for concussive symptoms, possibly after diving for that ball down the line??? You can’t be serious.
Let the jokes begin.
He should be playing in a woman’s softball league somewhere
On the bright side, we’re gonna get 4 straight games with a Singleton/Cone booth!
I like Singleton but doesn’t it irritate you that he knows much more about the Orioles prospects than he does about the Yankees? I know he lives in Maryland but…really?
He also played a majority of his career there. I would probably become more of a fan of an organization if I spent a decade there and enjoyed my time and how I was treated there.
Damn, you could hear a fucking pin drop in the stadium.
Mike, how good of a prospect is Middlebrooks?
I need a 3B to replace Longoria and my other 2 best options are Chris Davis and Chase Headley.
bullpen making Garcia better
Just an awful series…our bats looked HORRIBLE.
Has Arrieta been that good or do we just suck offensively right now? We seem to swing at the balls and stop and stare at anything over the plate.
He’s legit good. And the Yankees are sucking offensively right now.
jjyank, if you’re around, click my link and scroll down to the fifth pitcher. I think you’ll enjoy it.
This is actually embarassing. I’m not a ledge jumper or anything, but the performance in the past three games by the offense is ridiculously bad. We need a lineup shakeup, but there’s no obvious move to make.
AJ tonight: 2.2 innings, 12 hits and 12 earned runs.
He’s bad enough to be a Yankee starting pitcher.
That pitching line is for all of the people who said, “Even though AJ had his ups and downs, I’ll still miss him.”
You could pull a guy out of the stands and get a similar performance to that bed shitting disgrace.
That’s the AJ we remember….
Smart AB five runs down, leading off, for Granderson.
So if we’ve gone from 2 to 1 to 0 runs in our last three games, that means we score -1 runs for Phelps?
Either way, that was a shitty loss.
This is getting embarassing with the team not hitting or pitching well. The bullpen is the only positive this season. The thing that’s the most discouraging is that the Yankees have no swagger anymore. Power hitters like Arod and Tex are shells of what they once were and we have no production from the catching or dh positions. Add to that our best hitter Cano is in a slump. It’s May 2nd and not time for the noose yet but this looks awful.
Joe will petition MLB to play 8 fielders and work up to a 17 man staff.
The Chavez experiment has to end. He’s a good guy and a decent player but just can’t stay on the field. You’ve got to be kidding, did you see the play he got a concussion on. I mean the guys made out of glass.
We look horrible..we truly do. Meanwhile the Rays keep on winning..I honestly think we will be out of this race soon if we don’t do something.