Game 28: Through the rain


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It’s a dark and stormy afternoon in Kansas City, bad enough that they might not be able to play the game. The Yankees don’t return to KC this season, so they’ll have to give up a scheduled off day to make this one up. Both clubs are off on May 31st, which could work. The Yankees will be traveling from Anaheim to Detroit that day, at least in theory. Anyway, here’s the lineup…

SS Derek Jeter
CF Curtis Granderson
3B Alex Rodriguez
2B Robinson Cano
1B Mark Teixeira
DH Nick Swisher
LF Raul Ibanez
Russell Martin
RF Dewayne Wise

RHP Phil Hughes

Today’s game is supposed to start a little after 2pm ET, but I’m not sure if that will actually happen. If and when they do play, you can watch on YES locally and TBS nationally. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Plank says:

    At least there won’t be an opportunity for another Yankee injury. Unless someone slips getting on the team plane.

  2. Midland TX says:

    It’s really up to the Royals and then the umps. But there could be worse outcomes than giving up an off day to skip a Hughes start.

  3. pat says:

    Those umbrellas are pretty snappy.

  4. flamingo says:

    I hope they get to play the game today. I want them to get out of Kansas City ASAP.

  5. RetroRob says:

    Only one type of umbrella for sale in KC? Or was today umbrella give-away day? Good timing.

  6. Midland TX says:

    Actually, maybe a rain-shortened complete game victory plays right into Hughesey’s hands…

  7. jjyank says:

    Jeter continuing the resurgence. Love it.

  8. flamingo says:

    Jeter. Insane.

  9. aRX says:


  10. jjyank says:

    Come on Yankees…I am in the process of staining my parent’s porch and I’m taking a break to watch the game…please don’t make me decide my time would be better served staining instead of enjoying baseball on a Sunday afternoon.

    • Professor Longnose says:

      Work while you watch. I sometimes find that mentally that becomes more watch than work, and then the work’s finished.

      • jjyank says:

        I would if I could, but you can’t see the TV from where the porch is. Unfortunately it’s one or the other. I plan on chipping away at it between innings, but hopefully the Yankees compel me to keep returning to watch the game.

        • Betty Lizard says:

          You don’t have an iPad? That’s just sad. I got a ton of painting done during Yankees games in April.

          • jjyank says:

            No ipad. I have a Mac laptop and a smart phone, so I felt the ipad was an unnecessary luxury at least until I get a real job.

  11. jjyank says:

    *sigh* RISPFAIL’d again.

  12. Bartolo's Colon says:

    i think cano caught the same disease that jeter had in the beginning of 2011, i hope he rebounds like jeter

  13. aRX says:

    Well that was familiar…

  14. Rick says:

    After Curtis flew out I think we all knew we were not scoring.

  15. Bunt Gardner says:

    Of course the KC pitcher ends his first inning problems against the Yankees….

  16. Athenian says:

    Anyone know when the game starts? All I am getting online is a repeat or at least what looks like a repeat.

  17. Professor Longnose says:

    Does anyone like two-tone uniforms–color jerseys and white pants? I don’t like any of them I’ve ever seen.

  18. RetroRob says:

    Pettite gives up four straight hits, including two doubles and two RBIs to start off today’s game. Rebounds, strikes out the next two hitters, and then picks off a runner.

  19. Craig says:

    Those umbrellas remind me of the ones from Roller Coaster Tycoon.

  20. flamingo says:

    Well, starting with a strikeout is always nice, but following up with four straight balls isn’t. Did he miss by a lot?

  21. RetroRob says:

    Rain? : -)

  22. Cy Pettitte says:

    to the bullpen with you Phil

  23. Professor Longnose says:

    Well, that was quick. Three batters and the Yankees are losing.

  24. Bartolo's Colon says:

    phew, after that leadoff strikeout, i actually thought hughes had a chance at being effective

  25. flamingo says:

    I know the game’s not over yet – in fact it’s barely started – but I absolutely refuse to lose this game.

    Hopefully the Yankees feel the same way.

    • Professor Longnose says:

      Refusing to lose isn’t Girardi’s style. He’s more of a don’t-worry-we’ll-get-’em-tomorrow kind of guy.

  26. D Rat says:

    Here we go…

  27. Gone Phishin' says:

    I know he’s trying to use the change up less, but it looks like he has a good feel for it today

  28. jjyank says:

    Well I guess only 1 run is an improvement, right?

  29. Havok9120 says:

    Well, that was surprisingly decent. Once the bleeding started, I didn’t really expect it to stop for a few more runs.

  30. MikedJones says:

    Hughes is so bad.

  31. Damn, I thought it was a two thirty start for some reason…

  32. jjyank says:

    Wow I just checked my fantasy league. A friend of mine in the league has Hughes on his team, and not only has he not dropped him yet, he’s actually starting him.

  33. Plank says:

    I hope Girardi’s coaching today involved telling Hughes to go slowly until the game is called.

  34. Athenian says:

    Seriously folks, this year is not looking good. I don’t see this team figuring anything out. Pitching sucks, save three people. Hitting is ridiculous. Third place behind Tampa and Toronto is more realistic than making the playoffs. There is just no sign of improvement. Just a lot of wasted dollars.

    Lesson, no need to excel, mediocrity pays millions.

    • name your bet. seriously, any amount of money this team makes the playoffs.

      • Athenian says:

        1 Euro to your dollar. Traditional Duke Brothers bet.

      • Bartolo's Colon says:

        pretty certain that dude is a royals fan

        • Havok9120 says:

          Athenian? Only if he was sent in as a sleeper agent like three weeks ago for the purpose of sounding out morale. Not like he ever trolls.

          • Bartolo's Colon says:

            my bad, guess my troll instincts are not too good. i guess he’s just very disgruntled, like the rest of us

            • Athenian says:

              No die hard Yankees fan who has become frustrated with the lack of real develment in the farm system, consistent failure of the pitchers and their development an d most of all, the lack of growth in some of our high paid players…

              • Plank says:

                Players who are highly paid typically get their contracts in their decline phase. Expecting growth from FAs is an exercise in futility.

                • jjyank says:

                  Yeah players like A-Rod and (eventually) Bryce Harper who are in the league at such a young age are the exceptions to the rule.

              • Mike Axisa says:

                Not for nothing, the vast majority of high-paid players never improved. They’re already into their decline years by the time they hit free agency and start making real money.

    • jjyank says:

      I know it’s frustrating to watch, but do you really think the team is going to play at a .519 winning percentage all year?

      • Athenian says:

        No they will improve to about .530ish, but not more. There upcoming schedule, like right now is to tough. Plus the middle of the line up is too old, bats are slow and Joe and his binder have no solutions. Just one of those years.

        • jjyank says:

          Ahh right, I totally forgot about your crystal ball. I guess teams that struggle for the first 5 weeks of the season never improve over the course of 5 months, I forgot.

          • Plank says:

            He’s giving his opinion, just like you. He thinks the Yankees will improve slightly, you think they will improve significantly. What’s wrong with that?

            • jjyank says:

              I usually designate opinions when I see things like “I think” or “I believe” or “Based on what I’ve seen this far”, etc. The argument sounds more concrete.

              I can’t imagine thinking that way is a fun way to go through the season, a little hope never hurt anyone.

          • Havok9120 says:

            Well, you DID ask him what he thought would happen. He answered your question and told you why.

            I think he’s completely wrong, but there’s no need to be rude.

            • jjyank says:

              Guess I didn’t phrase it very nicely. Just feel like a little hope can help make the season bearable.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Is there a bet involved here? I’ll take it if so.

  35. Bartolo's Colon says:

    from now on, no swinging tex

  36. jjyank says:

    Oh snap, didn’t realize Swish was back. Thank you!

  37. jjyank says:


  38. aRX says:

    A run! Hooray!

  39. The Dude says:

    Thank you Raul. Show everyone that it can be done. A Yankee can get a hit with RISP.

  40. flamingo says:

    Hits are nice.

  41. Havok9120 says:

    Jesus, Francour already has five assists? Holy crap.

    At least we aren’t the only one ignoring the scouting report so far.

  42. Athenian says:

    Duke Brothers bet – 1 Euro to your American dollar… Although for fun I could pay in Drachma’s which have no value…just kidding.

  43. The Dude says:

    Predictable double play is predictable. Thanks Russ! You’re sure to get a Molina-esque contract. Who doesn’t want a double play machine on their team?

  44. Steve says:

    Hughes keeps dotting that outside corner. The ump isn’t giving him the call though

    • Havok9120 says:

      He is half the time. Therein lies the problem.

      • flamingo says:

        Ugh. So his location is decent but he’s not getting the call?

        • Havok9120 says:

          Yeah. He’s locating his pitches quite well today. Much better than usual so far. He got out of it with a swinging K though, so we’ll see how it goes.

          His changeup looks darn good today, and his fastball has as well.

  45. Havok9120 says:

    Heh. Did anyone else realize that Pettitte was on the same rotation schedule as Hughes? I sure didn’t.

    Meanwhile, I love that ARod made sure to hand him that ball as soon as time was called. That was pretty cool. That’ll be a good memory for him.

    • flamingo says:

      I think that’s something A-Rod never gets credit for: he really tries to help out/talk to the new kids.

      • jjyank says:

        I agree. I’ve always liked A-Rod. Before the season, MLBN ran their “30 clubs in 30 days” thing for spring training. On the Yankees one, they had an extended clip of A-Rod staying on the field after hours to do situational hitting drills with Cano and Nunez. A-Rod didn’t even participate, he was just coaching Cano and Nunez. I thought that was pretty cool.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      They weren’t on schedule until today. They gave Pettitte and extra day because he was testifying against Clemens.

  46. Wow…that pitch to quintero was right there according to Gameday.

  47. The Dude says:

    Strike zone has been atrocious all series – for both sides.

  48. Bartolo's Colon says:

    at least the red sox sucking makes me feel a little better. i think i might be able to hit a hr off of buccholz at this point. o’s up 5-0

  49. Havok9120 says:

    Now that’s a heck of a bunt.

    • Plank says:

      I liked the accompanying belly flop by Hochevar to get out of the way of the throw to first.


  50. RetroRob says:

    RISP love.

  51. jjyank says:

    What…is…that hits..with..RISP?? My eyes deceive me!

  52. Bartolo's Colon says:

    i really wish they would have called up wise before nix

  53. The Dude says:

    This is what they should’ve been doing all series! Bunting to third. Moose Tacos plays Nunez-esque defense at third. I’m starting to believe that Girardi’s binder is full of muffin recipes and not scouting reports.

    • jjyank says:

      Well that’s just rude. If he’s gonna have that many recipes, he should at least bake some before the games.

    • RetroRob says:

      He played a great third the other day. Haven’t seen him enough to have an overall opinion.

  54. aRX says:

    Where would this team be without Jeter and Granderson…geez. Now let’s see if the middle of the order can follow their lead.

  55. Bartolo's Colon says:

    can’t wait to see this triple play

  56. Havok9120 says:

    Oooooookay Robbie. The time is now. Please?

  57. J says:

    Bases loaded no out with Cano up. All I can envision is a double play and god I hope I’m wrong.

  58. Professor Longnose says:

    Break out–now or…later.

  59. flamingo says:

    Robbie, a grand slam would be a nice little bit of redemption.

    Or even, ya know, a hit.

  60. Andy E says:

    Nobody out and the bases drunk?

  61. aRX says:

    FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!

  62. flamingo says:


  63. jjyank says:


  64. Thaaaaaaaayankeeswin says:

    He barely hit that

  65. Mike Axisa says:

    What is this? A multiple-run inning? I approve.

  66. The Dude says:


  67. RetroRob says:

    Okay, do not rain until after the fifth.

  68. Professor Longnose says:


  69. Erica says:


  70. jjyank says:

    Well hopefully that gets Cano going now.

  71. LiterallyFigurative says:

    ROBBIE CANO! How I have missed you!

  72. bobtaco says:

    It’s been a long time since we have seen that Cano smile.

  73. Havok9120 says:

    Man, Tex smashed that. Too bad.

  74. LiterallyFigurative says:

    Tiex just missed that one.

  75. James A says:

    Robbie Cano, Dont’cha Know! Thank you Luke Hochevar, now lets get 5 innings in before some thunderstorms come and enjoy a day off

  76. Andy E says:


  77. jjyank says:

    Well I guess that one actually kinda was garbage time.

  78. flamingo says:

    This game is freaking awesome.

  79. Havok9120 says:

    Garbage. Freaking. Time.

    No. No it won’t die. I refuse.

  80. Thaaaaaaaayankeeswin says:

    Welcome back swish!

  81. bobtaco says:


  82. Erica says:

    SWIIIIIISH ooooooh I enjoy this inning.

  83. RetroRob says:

    Was Freddie Garcia traded to the Royals?

  84. LiterallyFigurative says:

    It’s the power of Nick Swisher.

    Please never get hurt again!

  85. aRX says:

    Welcome back Nick :D
    Hell, welcome back Bronx Bombers! Please don’t suck that badly again this year.

  86. The Dude says:

    Umm. Grandy, Cano, and Swish. Pick only 2.

    /luxury tax’d

  87. Bartolo's Colon says:

    crap, now we have to worry how we are going to afford to sign both swish and cano

  88. LiterallyFigurative says:

    Get Gardner back and then we go on a run.

  89. The Dude says:

    How about Ubaldo Jimenez pitching a decent game against Texas? If the Indians are out of it by the deadline and they’re willing to listen, I’d bite if I were the Yanks.

    • jjyank says:

      Ehhh ERA+ of 77 so far this year and 6.3 BB/9. Maybe if he’s on the cheap, but the Indians probably just keep him if that’s the case.

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

      Not an Ubaldo fan. If I could pick any Indian I’d take Choo. Ease the pain of saying bye to Grandy/Swisher.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      Ah the Ubaldo crush. I remember being one of few who would kill if he were on the Yanks and so far he’s not disappointing me.

  90. J says:

    I swear if this game gets rained out I’m gunna flip

  91. pat says:

    I’m betting Hughes gets a ND for this game.

  92. flamingo says:

    Hey, apparently Grandy just got his 1,000th hit.

  93. Plank says:

    Uh Oh. That pitcher’s mullet is too intimidating to not be an awesome reliever. Hopefully the 7 runs will hold up.

  94. Athenian says:

    This sucks. Yia Yia says go to church and Yankees will win. Athenian failure, Yia Yia (grandma) +100.

  95. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Alright shows over. Let’s do some pitching, Phil.

  96. flamingo says:

    Also, sometime in the last fifteen minutes or so, Oakland scored five runs off Matt Moore, Rangers still losing to Cleveland, and Baltimore’s still beating Boston.

    Today’s shaping up pretty nicely so far.

    • pat says:

      Good job on my end staring Matt Moore this week because he had two starts vs shitty teams over Brandon Morrow (CGSO,8k).


    • Havok9120 says:

      You just jinxed two of those games unless Boston pulls some more futility out of its ear. Bases loaded no out over there and the Rays just put 4 on the board.

      • Havok9120 says:

        Hmm. Got the order confused on the Rays game.

        Nevermind me.

      • flamingo says:

        Boo Boston. But earlier I think Tampa was leading 4-0, and suddenly Gameday’s little preview tells me Oakland is leading 5-4.

        • Havok9120 says:

          Yeah, I totally messed up the order there.

          Tie game in Boston though. Oh well. They’ll still lose somehow.

    • Sweet Dick Willie says:

      Oakland scored five runs off Matt Moore,

      A young pitcher struggling? I’m shocked, shocked that that could actually happen, especially to a Tampa drafted and developed pitcher.

      Going into today, he was averaging 5 innings per start, and using an average of 104 pitches to navigate those 5 innings, with a WHIP of 1.57.

      I know it ruins the narrative, but it would be helpful to remember this when Banuelos struggles in his 1st year.

  97. The Dude says:

    Boy is Dyson pesky.

  98. Robinson Tilapia says:

    1. Glad to see the “Lost and Found” department from DR called with Robbie.

    2. I missed me some garbage time, flapjack.


  99. CBean says:

    Robbie Cano hits a grand slam and now the sun is shining in Kansas City?

  100. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Kenny, every other batter can make Phil Hughes work. Especially if there are two strikes.

  101. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Here’s my heater, I dare you to hit it.

  102. The Dude says:

    Horay for Hughes 3-2 counts that result in a strikeout and not a hit/walk!

  103. jjyank says:

    That was a nasty curve. Where’s that pitch been?

  104. Shit, what happened last inning?! Twenty minutes spent helping an old man, telling him what vaporizers are and I miss a 6 run inning…I is sad.

  105. flamingo says:

    A 1-2-3 inning?! And Hughes isn’t even at 60 pitches yet. Maybe he’ll make it through six today.

  106. Professor Longnose says:

    Vida Blue?

  107. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Dwight Gooden?

  108. The Dude says:

    Middlebrooks just hit a grand slam. #ByeYouk

    /Wally Pipp’d

    • Havok9120 says:

      Yup. OTM will be on fire from that.

      Now if only they can lose the game….that would be nice. No, I’m still not afraid of Baltimore. I start rooting against them in June if necessary.

    • jjyank says:

      I was under the impression they were done with him after the season anyway.

      • The Dude says:

        I think they probably will cut ties with him after this season but they shouldn’t. When healthily Youkilis is one of the best run producers and clutch guys.

        • jjyank says:

          “When healthy”. That’s the problem. If Middlebrooks can be at least average at the MLB level but stay on the field, that might be smarter than spending millions on Pukilis.

        • Havok9120 says:

          Eh. I think he’d been very useful if they had room at 1st and he wasn’t blocking Middlebrooks at 3rd. There’s no room for him, especially since his D is terrible at 3rd. Maybe he could stick in the OF if his bat comes around, but not when Ells and Crawford come back.

          • Sweet Dick Willie says:

            Do you remember him in LF vs the Yanks a couple of years ago? Made Ibanez look like a Gold Glover.

            • Havok9120 says:

              Yeah, but have you seen their outfield with those two injuries? Abject silliness.

              That said, its a moot point with him on the DL and generally stinking before that.

  109. Gone Phishin' says:

    Linececum and King Felix?

  110. Plank says:

    Why isn’t the Pettitte/Clemens thing being covered here? Ditto the Chad Curtis situation. Ditto the Brien Taylor situation. When Cashman was going through his personal drama, Mike said they wouldn’t cover it. He said they would cover personal stuff if it’s significant like if someone gets arrested.


    • Mike Axisa says:

      Chad Curtis, Roger Clemens, and Brien Taylor are not on the Yankees.

      • Plank says:

        Cmon Mike. By that logic the Moose Skowron article from last week shouldn’t have been posted. It’s clear there is some editorial censorship going on (not that there is anything wrong with that, it’s your site) but that’s a pretty weak excuse.

        Curtis and Clemens were instrumental on the second best Yankees team in history. Brien Taylor was a prospect with enough hope pinned on him to make Jesus Montero blush.

      • Plank says:

        That would be like a Penn State Football blog not covering Sandusky at all since he wasn’t a coach there anymore.

        • Mike Axisa says:

          Holy exaggeration.

          • Plank says:

            It’s certainly an exaggeration. I was just using it as an example to show that the current employee requirement to be posted is absurd.


            • Manny's BanWagon says:

              I thought it was a little funny that Cashman repelling down a building for charity was covered but the whole wife cheating extortion fiasco which potentially could have had an effect on his job performance since it humiliated him and put his personal life in chaos was completely ignored here.

              • Plank says:

                Haha, true.

                I just want to say, I’m really not down on this site, I just disagree with their editorial policy.

                And I certainly don’t think Mike didn’t post those stories because Curtis, Taylor, and Clemens aren’t current Yankees as he claimed but instead because it paints them in a negative light.

                • Manny's BanWagon says:

                  I love this site and wish my favorite football and basketball teams had a blog even close to as good as this one but I do think a paragraph reporting on what has happened to Curtis and about the Clemens trial would only be fair.

          • Manny's BanWagon says:

            Not really. I agree with Plank.

        • Havok9120 says:


          No. It would be like a Yankee blog not covering, say, Joe Torre’s failed attempt at buying the Dodgers or his career in MLB’s FO as it happens. They’re personal issues for guys that are no longer on our team. If Cashman’s personal issues weren’t going to be covered, why would theirs?

          When Clemens dies, Mike’ll do a writeup. I’m sure it will include the trial. When Torre retires, I’m sure his career in the MLB after he left, including his future stint as a figurehead commissioner, will be covered. Until then, its not like we can claim that any of this affects the team in any way. And that doesn’t even get into it just being a divisive mess, as you know it would be which is why this whole line of questioning seems to be like you’re just sowing chaos for the heck of it, especially since you acknowledge that Mike&Co can cover what they want.

          This is out of character.

          • jjyank says:

            Agreed. The Sandusky thing isn’t an apt comparison because he was their coach until recently. Clemens, Taylor, and Curtis haven’t had anything to do with the Yankees for years now. Just doesn’t seem necessary.

            Besides, it’s not like RAB is hurting for more content. They have plenty of posts up every day, filling the site with every piece of news on every former player seems like overkill.

            • Plank says:

              Clemens is on trial for something that happened when he was on the Yankees. Pettitte is a current Yankee who is testifying at the trial.

              I’m really not seeing this invisible line between what’s worthy of posting and what’s not other than ignoring legal issues.

              What I’m getting is that the only way a non-on-the-field story to get posted is if a current Yankee gets arrested or an ex-Yankee dies. That seems like an odd place to draw the line.

              The stuff about the FBI investigating Steinbrenner didn’t get posted either. Is he not a Yankee?

              • jjyank says:

                Actually that seems like a pretty decent place to draw the line to me. I get what you’re saying though, I guess I just feel like RAB has more content than I can keep up with sometimes, it’s not like they need more posts. If I really want to know whats going on with Clemens in particular, I’ll look it up. I don’t really need (or want) RAB to give me the blow by blow on the trial.

              • Havok9120 says:

                Why would legal issues be an odd place to draw the line? I mean, I can see reasons not to draw it there, but I can see just as many to draw it there. There’s plenty of content up and nothing to be done on any legal “issues” (they’ve generally amounted to nothing and certainly had no impact on the team) save speculation. Lots of people don’t like speculating on such things.

                • Plank says:

                  How did the death of Moose Skowron impact the team?

                  • jjyank says:

                    He died. I see no problem with a short post on the death of a Yankee. A post on every ex-Yankees legal issues seems a bit much in my opinion. Limiting topics to current Yankees and deaths of ex-Yankees seems reasonable to me.

                  • Havok9120 says:

                    We’ve both mentioned death as an outlier. And death, being death, would seem like an event worth bending the rules a bit for, no?

                    • Plank says:


                      How does that fit in? I’m just saying there are inconsistencies and I don’t get it. I also don’t believe the reason for not covering Clemens and Pettitte testifying is because Clemens isn’t a current Yankee.

                    • jjyank says:


                      If Mike feels compelled to post something on Mel Hall, then why not? Just because he did that once doesn’t mean he has to post updates on every legal proceeding for every ex-Yankee. I’m not sure why it needs to be so black and white.

                    • Mike Axisa says:

                      I didn’t even post that, Ben did.

                    • Havok9120 says:

                      One word: convicted.

                      What’s your theory? He likes those guys and doesn’t cover their problems because it makes them look bad?

                    • Plank says:

                      My ‘theory’ is that Mike covers what he likes. He covers baseball stuff. He posts an obit of a great Yankee since it gives a warm, fuzzy feeling, he covers the Cashman repelling/bartending things since they are funny images. The other things are ugly and aren’t fun so they didn’t get posted, but they are still news. Again, it’s his blog and if he doesn’t want to post them, that’s his right, but saying he didn’t post them because they aren’t current Yankees sounds absurd.

                    • jjyank says:

                      I get what your saying Plank, but this discussion started before Mike had said that. I for one am glad that my favorite Yankee site isn’t flooded with updates about legal proceedings of ex-Yankees.

                    • Plank says:

                      Huh? I don’t understand what you’re saying. When did the discussion start?

            • Mike Axisa says:

              There’s also a difference in the magnitude of the news. The Sandusky thing was horrible, one of the biggest news stories in history. Chad Curtis wasn’t even charged with a crime.

            • Plank says:

              The Sandusky thing isn’t an apt comparison because he was their coach until recently.

              Sandusky stopped being a coach at Penn State until 1999. Curtis was a Yankee until 1999. Clemens was a Yankee until 2007.

              • jjyank says:

                Fair enough, I got my years mixed up. But that still isn’t an apt comparison because this isn’t a Penn State blog. I’m sure if it was, there would have been a mention of such a huge news story.

                • Plank says:

                  Chad Curtis is currently under investigation for molesting children. It’s not apples and oranges. It’s oranges and tangerines.


                  He can bunk with Mel Hall, who was covered here actually.


                  • jjyank says:

                    As far as I’m concerned, I just straight up don’t care about these stories. Molesting children is horrible, but I don’t follow stuff like that. So if my baseball blog skips that stuff, I’m cool with that.

                  • Mike Axisa says:

                    That was three years ago.

                  • Havok9120 says:

                    Three years ago. By Ben. You know, the lawyer guy. And he was actually convicted.

                    • Plank says:

                      You’re taking every bit of new information and fitting it into the narrative that the posting policy is consistent and makes sense.

                      The Clemens trial is about Clemens’ time as a Yankee and forced a current Yankee to leave the team to testify at the trial. It seems odd there wasn’t even a mention here. That’s all I’ve been saying from the get-go.

                      If you don’t think the Mel Hall, Steinbrenner/FBI stuff, Chad Curtis stuff, Cashman stuff, or Brien Taylor stuff shouldn’t be covered, fine.

                      But the Clemens thing is happening now and has already impacted Pettitte’s comeback. At least a mention seems justified.

                    • jjyank says:

                      I guess so, but I don’t think it’s a big enough deal to have such an epic thread about it. Some people might be interested in the Clemens trial, and that’s fine. And some people (like me) don’t really give a crap. What did it do to Pettitte, push him back a day? Nothing crazy.

                      As far as I’m concerned, this is a baseball blog, not a legal one. If Mike/Ben/Joe want to post something about a legal case at some point, then thats fine. By why does that need to create a set-in-stone, unbreakable precedent? Any post regarding the legal issues of ex-Yankees are just extra content. Maybe on slow news days they can post stuff like that, but it’s been a rather eventful 2012 season so far, so I really don’t care that it’s not being covered. If I get curious one day, I’ll look it up on my own.

                    • Havok9120 says:

                      Changing your argument as you gain info is generally the way to go. So yes, I’m guilty.

                      It was mentioned by Mike in chats and in answers in the comments section. I believe it even made it into a post at somepoint, but solely in how it effected Pettitte which, frankly, we don’t know yet.

                      Is it perfectly consistent? Of course not. Professional news sites with full time editors and a producer aren’t consistent. Why would this blog be? The general rule seems to be that personal issues don’t get extensive coverage unless it strikes some personal cord with one of the writers. Is that a problem?

                    • Plank says:

                      It’s not a problem at all. I think he should make a post about it, but if he doesn’t want to, that’s fine. Saying the Clemens trial isn’t Yankees news rising to the level of even a mention seems silly to me, though.

              • Need Pitching says:

                in fairness, the scandal did very directly impact Penn State’s then current coach and AD
                I would think if any of the Clemens, Curtis, or Taylor stuff had any possibility of leading to the termination or resignation of Girardi or Cashman, it would have been covered

                that said, I really don’t care either way if that stuff is covered here or not

                • Plank says:

                  The Clemens trial affects Pettitte’s training schedule. There was also speculation that it was a reason he decided to retire last year. He literally pitched today after testifying a few days ago.

                  Your point is valid, the Sandusky situation is different because of the coverup etc.

                  Either way, it seems odd there is no mention of it on this Yankees blog.

                  • Sweet Dick Willie says:

                    Either way, it seems odd there is no mention of it on this Yankees blog.

                    To you perhaps, but not to me.

                    I really don’t care about players, current or former, personal lives.

                    If the RABbis choose to post such content, that’s their right, as it is their site. It is also my right not to read it.

                    Additionally, they are under no obligation whatsoever to satisfy my, or your, definition of consistency.

                    • Plank says:

                      I never said they are. I actually said he can and should post whatever he wants.

                    • jjyank says:

                      I think your last sentence there is very important. Mike, Ben, and Joe don’t have some 10 Commandment-esque set of rules that is abided by 100% for a posting policy. Why does it need to be so black and white?

                    • Plank says:

                      It doesn’t. I asked Mike why he didn’t cover those stories and he said it was because they aren’t current Yankees. That sounds like a rule to me.

                      If he said he didn’t cover them because he didn’t want to, that would be fine, but he made it seem like there was some litmus test he uses.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Why would they? How is it significant to the Yanks except in the way its been mentioned (as in it may effect when we get Pettitte)?

    • J says:

      Probably because none of that stuff actually affects the team. Not enough room for posts like that with all the extracirricular work regarding player performance etc.

  111. Wow…this Moose Taco guy…good hitter.

  112. Buddy says:

    Is Hughes as wild as he looks on Gameday? He has a 6 run lead and is falling behind every single hitter…

  113. Greg says:

    So I just saw the score. Nick Swisher comes back and we score a ton of runs. Coincidence?

  114. Midland TX says:

    Want a groundball out? Whatever you need, Chris Getz. Get it? Heh heh.

  115. Cy Pettitte says:

    Phil showing signs of maybe being a viable starter

    • J says:

      The question is, has Phil Hughes stepped up his base level performance or are we only witnessing an above average start in terms of his ability?

      • Havok9120 says:

        The last one was better than all the previous, and this one is significantly better than that.

        I want him gone when Pettitte shows up unless Phelps implodes, but he’s earned another start or two. Sigh.

  116. JobaWockeeZ says:

    At least the Sox get to enjoy their prospects doing well.

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

      Remember Daniel Nava? Yeah neither do I.

    • Greg says:

      Whatever number of prospects they have left.

      They gutted their system with trades

    • Havok9120 says:

      Yes. Both of them.

    • J says:

      Yea especially all those stud pitchers who have really solidified the Boston bullpen the last year

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        This shit I’m reading is hilarious. Yes over the past few years the Sox only had two prospects come in and help the team. Then Ivan nova comes up and the Yankees are kings of development.

        • Need Pitching says:

          I don’t recall anyone here ever saying anything close to ” the Yankees are kings of development.”

          Quite the opposite, usually

        • jjyank says:

          I don’t think anyone here would call the Yankees “kings of development”.

          The Yankees have plenty of home grown guys on the team that have succeeded though, so I’m not sure what your beef is. The Yankees aren’t aggressive enough with promoting prospects? There’s not really anyone in AAA who needs a call up outside of Mitchell and Warren. I’m willing to be we’ll see Mitchell again anyway, and Phelps is now in the rotation.

        • J says:

          Your comment suggested that the Red Sox’s prospects have been performing better than the Yankees’. I disagree. That’s pretty much it.

        • Greg says:

          Basically the last few years, the Red Sox have done what the Yankees did in the middle of the decade. High free agent contracts and gutting their system with trades.

          Neither worked out real well.

        • Havok9120 says:

          Eh? Who said that exactly?

          Seriously, who here says that they’re any better than average or a little above? Even that is a minority opinion on here.

        • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

          Maybe queens of development lololololololol just laugh.

  117. Manny's BanWagon says:

    It would be so huge if Hughes could at least be a decent backend starter at this point.

  118. Pat D says:

    Just saw the Pettitte post. I say have him make one more AAA start.

    • Havok9120 says:

      I won’t be terribly put out whichever way they go. I mean…its hard to judge without having seen him pitch. See how he feels tomorrow, see how Phelps does, and see if Phil manages to implode and go from there.

  119. RetroRob says:

    Kind of susprised Falu has never been called up prior, even to be a back-up. Four years at AAA and seems to have held his own. Middle infielder. Oh, and he’s played for the Royals, who have been quite bad over the years.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      More walks than strikeouts too.

    • J says:

      Gotta be some major flaw to his game. I’m guessing he’s afraid of the dark and therefore can’t play night games.

      • RetroRob says:

        That’s what I was thinking. Well, the former, not the latter! As Mike noted, he can also take a walk, so the fact he’s never been called up is interesting. I mean, the Yankees have had Ramiro Pena on their roster at various points since 2009, including for an entire season, yet the Royals haven’t found room up Falu to now. I’m not saying they’ve been wrong. Always interesting why some players on the bubble get the call, while others wait forever. Maybe he can’t hit a curveball for his life.

  120. Greg says:

    Should we have kept Luis Ayala? Has given up no runs for the O’s this year.

    • jjyank says:

      Meh he was a middling journey man who appeared to have had a career year. Besides, the Yankee bullpen is still pretty good. Leaving hindsight out of it, I have no problem whatsoever with letting him go.

    • flamingo says:

      Nah, from what I remember of him, he let inherited runners score way too often.

  121. Pat D says:

    Not watching right now. How’d that guy score from first on a single?

  122. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Pettitte sucks.

  123. Havok9120 says:

    Okay, the TBS crew is having a good time this inning, and its pretty darn funny. Ragging on the athletic prowess of Smoltz and Eck.

  124. Manny's BanWagon says:

    That gun has to be hot. Is Hughes really throwing 95 after almost 100 pitches?

  125. J says:

    Cone is preaching the truth right now.

  126. Manny's BanWagon says:

    That’ll do Hughesie, that’ll do.

  127. Cy Pettitte says:

    6IP 2ER is like the Phil Hughes equivalent of a perfect game

  128. Why in gods name is it so hard to organize a group outing, especially to something with time constrictions, such as the movies…

    • jjyank says:

      Maybe your friends got too high?

      • haha, no it’s just stupid hard to get them all on the same page. I wanted to see the avengers tonight in IMAX, I suggested we all buy tickets ahead of time online and did so myself. Then now my buddy just texted me saying the showing I already have a ticket to has sold out, and nobody else has bought tickets. If we were doing this in person instead of via text, email, and facebook I’m sure it’d be much easier.

        • jjyank says:

          Haha I hear ya. When I was in undergrad I would also try to organize trip to the mountain for snowboarding. It was even easier than the movies because he all had season passes. Next thing you know, everyone manages to to either lose their season pass, get too drunk and pass out somewhere other than their bed so I can’t find them, turned their phone off so I can’t call them, or is just too hungover in general.

  129. jjyank says:

    I’m not saying Ibanez will be good, but if he can manage a few timely hits and take a few walks, then he may not be so bad at $1.1 mil.

    That being said, I am still hoping the Yankees swing a trade for a lefty DH. I’m actually mad at the Dodgers. Ethier would be perfect, but unless they tank from here on out, I doubt they’ll be sellers.

    • Need Pitching says:

      not at 1.1M anymore … already at 1.2M and climbing with PA bonuses

      • jjyank says:

        Pocket change.

        • Need Pitching says:

          true, for now
          he can top out at 4M total if they keep him around long enough and play him often enough (slightly more than pocket change)
          at 1.1M, he may be worthwhile enough to earn it
          approaching 4M, not very likely

          • jjyank says:

            Agreed, but I think if he’s here long enough to make $4, he’ll be a pretty decent player. If not, then I think the Yankees make a trade.

            • Need Pitching says:

              yeah, I’m really hoping for/expecting a trade
              I think Ibanez should be decent enough as a short-term temp until then (as long as they stop using him in the OF)

          • Havok9120 says:

            Yeah, things have gone seriously wrong if he gets the 4 million. Then again, the opposite could be true. Maybe he’ll rake and force his way into playing somewhat more than planned. Who knows?

  130. mike_h says:

    keep Hughes in, Tues and Weds look like rainy days. Save the pen!!!

  131. First baserunner go get him.

  132. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Should i keep Mike Trout or drop him for Brian LaHair?

  133. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    lol of course

  134. flamingo says:

    Of course, Phil. Of course.

  135. Robinson Tilapia says:

    95 MPH in the 7th inning. I can’t believe my Phucking eyes.

    I’m ignoring the homer hit as I type this, BTW.

  136. Cy Pettitte says:

    Humberto Quintero……………..

    kind of puts a sour note on a great outing.

  137. Greg says:

    Not mad at that. You’re up 7-2, don’t want to walk the guy

  138. Havok9120 says:

    Philbert’s home run rate continues.

    Good Lord, that celebraton was insane. You’re still down by four people. The music, fireworks…sheesh.

    • jjyank says:

      It’s the Royals. They take what they can get.

      • This. They might have beaten us yesterday, but they’re still a good team.

        • not a good team*****

          • RetroRob says:

            They’re better than their record indicates, and they’re playing well right now. They’ll break .500 this year. This is not the same type of Royals teams where the Yankees can expect to come into town and sweep, although if the Yankees were playing it’s not unreasonable to expect them to take three of four.

            • RetroRob says:

              if the Yankees were playing *well*

            • They’re still a team that you’re disappointed if you don’t at least split a 4 game series or win a 3 game series, and if the team’s clicking on all cylinders I would expect them to win 3 of 4 and sweep 3.

              • RetroRob says:

                Oh, yeah. I’m happy the Yankees pulled off a split, but going in I really wanted them to take three of four. Well, I wanted them to sweep, but that’s difficult against any team over four games and in their park.

                My other point was the Royals are more difficult than they used to be, and with so many young developing players like Moustakas, Hosmer, Duffy, Gordon, Butler, etc. they can be streaky, but depending on when you run into them, they can be quite tough now. The Yankees should still beat them, but they’re not a pushover by any stretch.

      • Havok9120 says:

        Did you hear the music? Its like we were at the coronation ceremony of a king or marching to war. I know they’re the “Royals” but sheesh.

  139. aRX says:

    So much for ending on a high note…oh well, not bad overall.

  140. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Should have let him face 1 more batter. 7 innings and 3 runs looks much nicer than 6 2/3 and 3 runs.

  141. Tyrone Sharpton says:

    great start from hughes today

  142. jjyank says:

    Boone y u no get lefties??!

  143. YanksFanInBeantown says:

    Good job Hughes!

    Just when I’d dropped him…

  144. RetroRob says:

    Come on, DeWayne. You’re here to make the spectacular!

  145. Greg says:

    David Cone just praised Boone Logan’s work

  146. Tom says:

    Good spot for a hit and run (if Girardi still has that sign)

  147. Greg says:

    Waddya know? Vicente Padilla gives up the tie breaking run in the 8th inning.

  148. I don’t know how pro players feel about this, I mean I’m sure at some point you get over it, but when I was in little league the biggest crowd didn’t bother me at all…however if my mom(who hates baseball) was in the crowd I’d try so hard to pitch well because she was coming to support me that my mechanics would get all out of whack and I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn, or water if I was throwing the ball out of a boat.

    • jjyank says:

      Like you said, I have no idea how pros react to that stuff, but that’s why I’m willing to give Phelps a pass from the other day.

  149. Plank says:

    I could watch the George Brett Pine Tar clip all day every day.

    Trivia time: Who was the ump who made the controversial call?

    • Greg says:

      Is it Mclelland?

    • Havok9120 says:

      The ump is still around too. I won’t say the name since I’d be cheating (TBS just said it).

    • RetroRob says:

      I remember that game clearly, and as much as I was/am a Yankee fan, when they took the HR away I thought it was bullshit. Loved it, but thought it was nonsense. Yet Munson lost a hit and an RBI a few weeks prior for also having too much pine tar on his bat, which is how the whole incident happened. The Yankees waited until they can try and use it to their advantage. MLB should have corrected it on the Munson call, so I understand why the Yankees were pissed.

      • RetroRob says:

        …actually, couldn’t have been Munson.

        • RetroRob says:

          It was Nettles who had it happen to him.

          • RetroRob says:

            Okay, last correction. It was Munson! It had happened several years earlier, but it was Nettles who noticed Brett’s bat with all the pine tire that season.

            I guess the Yankees had such difficulty getting Brett out that they would use any means possible. He did have some bit hits against them.

            • Plank says:

              I love when he flails his arms above his head in anger as he’s running out of the dugout. Classic Baseball Moment right there. Such righteous indignation.

              • RetroRob says:

                Brett insists he wouldn’t have tackled/hit the umpire if he hadn’t been intercepted, but I don’t see anyway he wouldn’t have made heavy contact. He was enraged!

  150. Greg says:


    • Havok9120 says:

      He’s done it twice this week off lefties too. I don’t really expect a resurgence, but its good to see he can still hit them when he gets something he likes.

  151. flamingo says:

    An A-bomb!

  152. jjyank says:

    Yeaaahhh A-Rod! Let’s hope that power stroke is coming back. Against a lefty too!

  153. Havok9120 says:


    Off a lefty no less. Twice this week.

  154. Alex=the new, old fashioned, garbage time.

  155. Cy Pettitte says:

    ARod just destroyed that wow

  156. Tyrone Sharpton says:

    ARod is on pace for 29 homers. ill take that in a heartbeat

    • Havok9120 says:

      Yeah, that’d be pretty sweet.

    • damn, I was really hoping he’d get to 660 this season. He’d have to pick up the pace just a little bit to get to it.

      • Havok9120 says:

        Me too. Here’s hoping.

      • RetroRob says:

        Well if you want to look at the positive. He’s on pace to hit 29, yet he’s just chipping in HRs here and there. HR hitters usually have one or two stretches during the season where they hit a bunch of HRs. A-Rod will have that this year if he stays healthy. That’s the key to everything with A-Rod. Staying healthy.

        • jjyank says:

          Agreed. I don’t doubt a healthy A-Rod, yet anyway. He was raking last year before the injuries, so if he’s healthy he can certainly run off a few weeks of a power clinic.

  157. Havok9120 says:

    Boston tied it. Now I just need the score to hold up for about 6 more innings.

  158. Havok9120 says:

    Whoa, Raul. How’d that happen?

  159. flamingo says:

    Did Ibanez just… make a great catch?

    This game has a whole lot of positive.

  160. Tom says:

    When did Gardner come off the DL? I thought that was supposed to happen next week.

  161. Havok9120 says:

    Man, whoever said Mouse Tacos was really bad at D was either misinformed or the guy is just playing above himself. He’s looked very good this series.

    • Tom says:

      Yeah he looks pretty good… I kept hearing maybe he can become average at best, but he seems solid to me.

      I think prospects get a defensive reputation early on and it becomes really hard to overcome that perception even if the performance changes.

    • RetroRob says:

      I saw that earlier and even commented. I haven’t seen enough of Moustakas to have an opinion on his defense beyond what I have seen says he’s quite good. UZR also had him a plus defender last year, and already at +4 this year.

  162. My one beef with how well we’re playing today: it’s right before an off day. I mean I understand the whole narrative “momentum is only as good as your next days starting pitcher” but I really think their is something to going really well with your swing and getting to comeback the next day and keep it going.

  163. Pujols finally went yard…The Angels have to be saying “about fucking time.”

    • jjyank says:

      Haha yeah right. I know the A-Rod contract is bad, but the Pujols one might end up being worse. I’m not saying he’s going to be bad, but at least the Yankees got a couple of MVPs out of A-Rod.

  164. jjyank says:

    ZOMG Cory Wade is teh new closer!

    Kidding, obviously.

  165. flamingo says:

    At least there’s no better time to give up a run or two than in this game.

  166. Havok9120 says:


    Wooooo whoooooo…..

    Seriously, go Orioles.

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