May
15

Yanks have no answer for Chen in loss to O’s

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What’s the old saying, every team is going to win 50 games and lose 50 games so it comes down to the other 62 games? This feels like one of those 50 losses. It just wasn’t happenin’ for the Yankees on Tuesday and they split their two-gamer with the Orioles.

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Double Trouble

The Yankees have a bit of a double play problem at the moment, grounding into three twin-killings in this game and eight (!) in their last three games. That’s pretty frustrating. The first double play came with a man on first and one out in the third, the second with men on the corners and one out in the eighth, and the third with a man on first with one out in the ninth. All three ended the inning, and that’s pretty much the worst way to make the second and third outs.

The double plays snuffed out rallies, but the Yankees also couldn’t get Alex Rodriguez home after he led off the second inning with a single and immediately stole second base. Robinson Cano was nearly stranded after his leadoff double in the seventh, but Curtis Granderson hit a two-run opposite field homer to save us all from a horrible RISPFAIL death. Replays showed that a fan in Yankees’ garb may have reached up and caught the ball before Xavier Avery could get a glove on it. I hope that’s what happened, anyway. They had no answer for Wei-Yin Chen, who has now allowed two earned runs or less in six of his seven starts this season.

No Control

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CC Sabathia has been on a pretty dominant run of late, but he labored against the Orioles on Tuesday and the result was four runs allowed in six innings. He walked a season-high four, including free passes to noted hackers Wilson Betemit and Bill Hall. Avery also drew a walk, and I’m pretty sure the walk to Adam Jones was unintentionally intentional after his solo homer earlier int he game. Sabathia allowed eight hits, seven to right-handed batters. The one exception was dinky little bunt single by Avery.

Every so often CC’s going to be off his game and it seemed pretty obvious that his fastball was giving him trouble in this game. He went to the slider whenever he needed to make a pitch, which is exactly what he was doing when he struggled in his first two starts of the year. Hopefully it’s just a blip on the radar and he’ll get back to dominating next time out. It happens.

Leftovers

The Orioles tacked on a pair of insurance runs because of Yankees’ mistakes. Sabathia induced what was supposed to be a routine inning-ending ground ball in the sixth, but Cano bobbled the ball and rushed the flip to second base for the force. Derek Jeter had to slow down to receive the ball and Robert Andino slid in safe to simultaneously extend the inning and allow a run to cross the plate. Chris Stewart‘s second passed ball — following a missed caught stealing call at second — allowed Jones to trot home in the eighth. Grumble grumble.

Jeter (single, walk), Cano (double), Mark Teixeira (single), Granderson (homer), Andruw Jones (walk), Jayson Nix (single), and pinch-hitter Russell Martin (walk) were all the offense on the night. Nick Swisher smoked the ball four times and only has a fielder’s choice to show for it. His inning-ending line drive at Chen’s face in the sixth was a pretty good indication things weren’t going the Yankees’ way.

Freddy Garcia threw two innings late, allowing just that one run on the botched caught stealing call/passed ball thing. He struck out three and I thought he looked pretty good actually. Better than he looked earlier in the season, anyway.

Box Score, WPA Graph & Box Score

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Up Next

The Yankees are heading off to Toronto for another quick two-game series. Hiroki Kuroda will get things started against Kyle Drabek on Wednesday night.

Categories : Game Stories
  • Tim

    Tough game, but unfortunately, I am getting used to the Yanks losing games like these. On most nights, the Yanks live and die with the long ball. (0-7 in games with no HR’s) Twice, Baltimore layed down a sac bunt and both times a run crossed the plate for Baltimore. I wish Girardi would realize that these are not the 1927 Yankees, and when they appear to be struggling finding the grass in the outfield (or the cheap seats)maybe try to force a scoring inning by playing a little small ball. But, I guess with this lineups struggles w/RISP maybe it’s not worth giving up outs and w/out Gardy in the lineup it is most certainly going to be an out.

    CC’s lack of command was front and center this evening, but I have no problem with his subpar performance. He’s been good of late. When command of the ole #1 isn’t there, any pitcher will struggle.

    I happy the split in this quick series. Yanks were lucky to get that win yesterday with the whole 1-11 w/RISP thing……on to Toronto where I’m sure the struggling duo of JoeyBats and Lind will probably catch fire, like always (2011 Jose v NYY .283 1.041 OPS 4 HR’s, 16 BB’s 8RBI’s and Adam Lind .345 .995 OPS 4HR’s 9RBI’s)

    • eephus_pitch

      Yeah, the last thing this team needs to do is give away any more outs. It’s not just ineptitude getting base hits with RISP, they can’t even get sacrifice flies or RBI groundouts on a consistent enough basis.

      • Tim

        It amazing the lengths this team goes to NOT score runs LOL

  • Pat D

    I thought the old saying was that every team would win 60 and lose 60, and that it’s the other 42 that made the difference. Being that 60 wins/losses gives a maximum of 102 wins/losses the other way, and that’s a number that’s not reached often or by more than 1-2 teams per year, if it’s even that high.

  • Kevin

    ABout the only thing that made this bearable..I was able to watch as the Texas Rangers got beaten by Vin Mazzaro of Kansas City of all pitchers.

    • Kramerica Industries

      Jersey kid!

      Hope the Yankees face him when KC comes to New York and we can hear Michael Kay tell that story with his entire family in attendance again.

  • Havok9120

    I agree on Garcia. I was one of the people that pulled the trigger pretty quick on “get him out of the rotation” talk, but he looked better than I’ve seen him all year.

    Its not saying much, but its sometthing.

    • Tim

      I think as long as lineups aren’t alllowed to see him more than once he may be effective as BP’er

      • jsbrendog

        it’s also possible the time off and time to work ons tuff in the pen has helpd put him back to where he was last yr, a serviceable but not great 5th starter. could go either way.

  • Duh Innings

    Yet another team who finished last or next to last last year the Yanks didn’t win or sweep a series against. Split with the Twins, split with the Royals, split with the Os after dropping two of three to them (so now 2-3 in their last 5 with the Os), two out of three over Seattle when it should’ve been a sweep with them beating King Felix.

    8-8 SHIT. Oh wait, 10-9 with the series win over the Rays. Still shit which could smell 11-10 or 10-11 worse if they’re not careful with the Blue Jays. Lemme guess, Blue Jays ace Ricky Romero is starting Thursday? That’d be just the Yanks dumb luck haha.

    This team is not a World Series championship contender, not as presently constituted. I am at a loss as to come up with a solution for them. I don’t think there is one barring a blockbuster, franchise-changing trade.

    Girardi was outmanaged by Showalter last night. Girardi should’ve ordered the slumping Teixiera who is looking more and more like 2004-2008 Jason Giambi with the bat to (try to) bunt A-Rod over to third with no outs. Instead, he let Teixiera make yet another unproductive out.

    They need to rebuild the starting nine for 2013 with Jeter, Cano, and Gardner. I am sick of Teixiera. The Yanks should offer him and $7.5M a year 2013-16 to whoever is willing to take on the other $15M a year 2013-16. I think he’d get a taker and no, he would not exercise his no-trade power because he would not want to be with a team that doesn’t want him anymore. If the Yanks want to trade him, he’s out of here, it’s just a matter of where he’d go which is mutually acceptable to him and the Yanks.

    • Tim

      Yanks draw Drabek and Hutchinson v Toronto…

      I agree, some of these losses are as frustrating as it gets. The Yankee bats just go na-night every 3rd game or so. I wish Joe would play some small ball as well, but with the struggles this team has hitting w/RISP giving away outs, as in sacs, may be expediting the inevitable.

      As far as WS contender……with this current roster I don’t see the Yanks sniffing #28 until some of this personnel is retired or onto their next team. Mediocre starting pitching, players who turtle shell when October comes around and an offense based on HR’s……never a winning combination.

      • Duh Innings

        I’m telling ya, they need to trade Rodriguez, Teixiera, and I think ultimately Granderson, too, as Granderson turns 33 on 3/16/14 which means the Yanks will have him through age 36, 37, or 38 if they give him a three to five year extension or contract after 2013 (assuming his club option for 2013 is picked up which I think it will be regardless of what he does this season.) I just don’t see them signing Granderson through age 36, 37, or 38. They’re not risking locking up another guy into his late 30s, they’re just not. I don’t want them to give him a three to five year deal or even a two-year deal he’d never accept. If I were him I’d ask for a one-year $14M extension ($1M raise) so I’d have two good or better cracks at collecting a World Series ring in 2013 and 2014. CC took a one-year extension and not even as a $25M vesting option with a $5M buyout – why not Granderson? At least the Yanks would be giving Granderson $14M guaranteed, no vesting option and/or buyout.

        If the Yanks traded all three this offseason and for a rookie minimum-making 1B, started Nunez or Jeter at 3B, re-signed Melky Cabrera for RF, and gave Mason Williams a shot in LF and the ninth slot in the batting order (Gardner moves to CF his natural position), I think they’d still be in business. It’d be a bit risky with the kids at 1B, 3B, and CF but I’d rather see these kids grow and struggle then see A-Rod ages 37-42 and Teixiera ages 33-37. A-Rod and Teixiera got their World Series rings with the Yanks no one could ever take away from them, so it is time that they move on. BTW Nunez, Williams, and Melky Cabrera back a Yankee means a 2/3rds homegrown starting nine with those three, Jeter, Cano, and Gardner, 7/9ths if they start Romine or Cervelli or have both share C. Why not sign Juan Rivera for a year and $3.5M ($4M total earned with the Dodgers buying hm him out for $500K) with a $4M club option for 2015 and see what he has left at DH for a possible 8/9ths homegrown starting nine?

        Oh yeah – trading Rodriguez, Teixiera, and Granderson means they’d clear a ton of salary to extend Jeter, Cano, and Gardner.

        • Need Pitching

          smoking the good stuff tonight, eh?

          • Duh Innings

            Go fuck yourself you little bitch.

            • Need Pitching

              stay classy, bro.

              • Duh Innings

                Like you insulting me first?

                Bro you’d never say this shit to my face in a bar so put a sock in it.

                • eephus_pitch

                  I didn’t realize they allowed Internet Tough Guys around here.
                  That’s so 2003.

                • Pat D

                  Nor would you.

                  • Duh Innings

                    Was I talking to you? No, I wasn’t.

                    In response to what you said cuz your pal needs you to fight his little RABattles, oh yes I would, minus the insultory tone and namecalling which he not I came on here with.

                    If you and I were talking face to face and you insulted me and called me names, trust me, I would do something about it if you got close enough to me…as I would expect you to do the same if I insulted you, called you names, and got close enough to you.

                    • jsbrendog

                      come at me BRO!!!!

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      +1 on RonnieBrendog above me

                • Midland TX

                  Whoa, whoa, I think you should have stopped after your eighth wine cooler. Just step away from the keyboard.

                  Imagine you’re an opposing GM. Are you going to take on Teixeira’s decline years at $15MM a pop? If so, why? It’s just dumb. Same deal with A-Rod. Seriously, just name a team with the motivation, the roster flexibility, and the financial resources to be the Yankees’ partner on any of the trades you recommend. There aren’t any so just stop throwing out vague untenable crap and then attacking anyone who calls you on it.

                  • Duh Innings

                    I said Teixiera and half his remaining salary, so $11.25M a year. Totally “takeable”.

                    And here you are another person replying to me with an insultory tone.

                    What MLB team front office do you work for for you to say these guys will receive no takers? Who died and made you an authority on what teams will and won’t do?

                    Granderson is utterly tradeable.

                    A-Rod? Based on him and half his remaining salary (up to $72M) traded:

                    Motivation: SEATTLE. Could and probably will lose Ichiro after this year thus lose their only everyday gate draw. Will lose King Felix during or after 2014 thus will have zero gate draw after he’s gone.

                    Roster flexibility: SEATTLE. A-Rod could play 3B or DH (if DH Montero could be the C or GASP! move to 1B as he’s still young.)

                    Finacial resources: SEATTLE. They will save money letting go of Ichiro and King Felix and have enough to take on A-Rod’s salary.

            • jsbrendog

              violated guidelines

        • jsbrendog

          i stopped reading your comment at trade rodriguez, teixeira….right there. jesus

          i stopped reading your comment at trade rodriguez, teixeira….right there. jesus

          and as i type this i see extend jeter? baaahahahahahaha

        • Steve

          You want to promote Mason Williams to the majors? Really?

    • Need Pitching

      give it up already. Tex isn’t going anywhere

      • Duh Innings

        Why cuz you say so? Who died and made you an authority I never said I was and you work in the Yankees front office I never said I worked in? No and no.

        Oh yes he outta here after this year is if he keeps hitting like he is. His contract is not immovable. It would require the Yanks to eat quite a bit of salary. They will have to strongly consider it if he turns out a 2004-2008 Jason Giambi like 2012.

        Someone would take Teixiera and half his remaining contract ($11.25M 2013-16) so put a sock in it if you’re not gonna say WHY “Teixiera isn’t going anywhere”? Your word like mine is not law, ok?

        • Need Pitching

          full no trade clause, already declining, entering his mid-30′s
          yeah, he’s going nowhere

          • Duh Innings

            “already declining and entering his mid 30s” IRRELEVANT

            He’s still being paid $22.5M a year 2013-16 whether he plays for the Yanks or the Pirates.

            If the Yanks don’t want him anymore, he’s outta here as he’s not angering them or playing under a cloud of tension. He already got a World Series ring with the Yanks (2009 before you were a Yankee fan or a smarmy nerd in RAB comments) so I doubt he’d give a fuck where he plays 2013-16 on.

            Oh yeah, players can waive part or all of their full no-trade clauses, so, you lose.

            Try replying in full coherent sentences, Twitter/text brain.

            • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

              If the Yanks don’t want him anymore, he’s outta here

              The Yankees won’t pay 22 million dollars to have him play for another team. Another team will have to pay AT LEAST half of that which will NEVER HAPPEN.

              Oh yeah, players can waive part or all of their full no-trade clauses

              And where might Tex want to play that actually needs a 1B?

              And did I use coherent enough sentences for you?

              • Duh Innings

                Hey stupidas s, I never said trade Teixiera and all his remaining salary for 2013-16. HALF. $45M.

                Someone would take on him and $45M. Who? We’ll see wh who wants him when the Yanks shop him around.

                And he’s making $22.5M a year not $22M.

                Get what he makes a year 2013-16 correct if you’re gonna run your mouth to me.

                • jsbrendog

                  violated guidelines x3

            • Need Pitching

              It’s relevant because another team actually would have to want to trade for Tex. He’s barely better than Carlos Pena at this point. Carlos Pena only managed a one-year, 7.5M contract. Why would any team agree to take 4.5 years of Tex. Even if the Yankees paid half his salary, no team would likely take it. And I’m well aware players can waive a no-trade clause. They don’t have to, though. And players in the past have exercised no-trade clauses. You wanting someone to waive it doesn’t mean they will.

              I’m done wasting my time with your childishness and ridiculous, never gonna happen, proposals.

              • Duh Innings

                I never said trade Teixiera midseason, I said trade him in the offseason. Learn to read.

                Teixiera $11.25M a year x 4 years (2013-16) vs. Pujols $250M for a decade. Teixiera is a low-risk bargain compared to Pujols.

                Get back to me with a veteran Gold Glove 1B who posted 39 HR and 122 RBI two years ago who will be available on the free agent market this offseason who will take just 4 years x $11.25M a year = $45M total.

                Here you go again telling me you’re done with me only to come back like the petulant “I have to be right!” adult child you are.

                • jsbrendog

                  for someone who made up someone insulting him you have attacked 3 or 4 people here while using profanity. I hope you get banned

            • jsbrendog

              violated guidelines x2

        • TomH

          This clown is a board disaster. Everybody is “insultory” towards him, the true sign of a crank.

          • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

            It’s funny I woke up and was surprised at the comment count for the recap thread. It’s usually not so high, especially after a blah loss. I figured someone must’ve started something and boy was I right!

            Yeesh.

  • Karl Krawfid

    I traded a Yankee win for a Miami Heat loss today.

    • Jesse

      I’m willing to trade Duh Innings for a Miami Heat title, and I don’t like that Heat.

      • jsbrendog

        ughgh…i dunno..i’m not sure i could stomach bron bron hoisting the trophy…

  • Duh Innings

    Here’s my solution to the Yanks’ payroll woes:

    Trade A-Rod, Teixiera, and half their remaining salaries.

    By my calculations, the Yanks would have to eat up to $117M in salary but would clear the same if they did this as follows:

    $57M of Rodriguez guaranteed money
    $45M of Teixiera salary
    Up to $15M in Rodriguez’s homerun milestone bonus money

    A-Rod would cost his taker $14M in 2013, $12.5M in 2014, $10.5M in 2015, $10M in 2016, $10M in 2017, and up to $15M in homerun milestone bonus money ($12M if he reached the first milestone – homerun #660 – as a Yankee this season.)

    Teixiera would cost his taker $11.25M a year 2013-16.

    The Yanks could go in up to four directions in-house alone with 3B after A-Rod:

    Move Jeter to 3B, Nunez becomes the new SS.

    Start Nunez at 3B.

    Start Ronnier Mustelier at 3B, trade Nunez as Jeter isn’t moving to DH to accomodate Nunez at SS.

    Platoon Nunez and Mustelier at 3B.

    As for 1B after Teixiera, the Yanks could GASP!!! TRADE FOR A TOP RROSPECT 1B. Or how ’bout we see what the veteran Pearce can do for a fraction of the cost of Teixiera? How ’bout two veterans sharing 1B where one can back up at 3B?

    • Karl Krawfid

      The hell is wrong with you?

      • Need Pitching

        +100

      • Bunt Gardner

        I think he found the key to his parent’s liquor cabinet.

        • Duh Innings

          The Three Stooges are out tonight hmmmm?

          Aren’t you supposed to be on a moviescreen tomorrow? Get your rest, Moe, Larry, and Curly.

          I know, my idea doesn’t entail replacing two overpaid aging (Teixiera) and old (Rodriguez) hasbeens with expensive, brand name players. Deal with it.

          A kid at 1B, Nunez 3B, Mason LF, Gard CF, Melky C RF > Teixiera, Rodriguez, Gardner, Granderson, Swisher. Deal with that, too, Stooges.

          • Need Pitching

            “A kid at 1B, Nunez 3B, Mason LF, Gard CF, Melky C RF > Teixiera, Rodriguez, Gardner, Granderson, Swisher.”
            ———————————

            yeah, no

            • Duh Innings

              Um, yeah, yeah.

              What the HELL makes you think the results would be better with the latter group come October? They’d win one more ALDS or ALCS game? Get to the ALCS?

              Melky > Swisher offensively and defensively.

              Gardner is the best defensive Yankee outfielder.

              Nunez could be better than A-Rod with enough playing time at 3B.

              The kid at 1B probably wouldn’t be as good as Teixiera defensively and most likely wouldn’t post Teixiera’s 2009-11 numbers, but maybe he’d be a decent defender who posts 20-22 HR and 75-80 RBI for the rookie minimum with room to grow.

              Teixiera, Rodriguez, and Swisher have been abysmal in the postseason for the Yanks. Granderson will not be a Yankee at age 36 or older, he’s out of here before, during, or after 2013.

              • Need Pitching

                the latter group, at the very least, would be playing in October
                your team very likely would not

                and how was ARod in 2009 postseason. Pretty sure I remember carrying the Yankees offense to a WS title that year.

                • Duh Innings

                  Wow, A-Rod shows up in one postseason in eight. Whoopee.

                  Boy are you a fucking idiot. Did you start watching the Yanks in 2010 little boy? A-Rod missed an entire month of the season in 2009, he didn’t “carry” anything but the jockstraps of Jeter, Cano, Teixiera, and Swisher who all had better seasons than him. Swisher carried the Yanks at one point early in the season.

                  My team would make the postseason cuz there’s two wildcards now and there are these things you ought to check out sometime called pitching and defense. After you watch the entire 2009 season again and show me where oh where five-months A-Rod carried the team.

                  • Need Pitching

                    “and how was ARod in 2009 postseason”

                    you’ll note where I limited the comment to the postseason, where Arod did carry the Yankees offense. I said nothing about the regular season, but apparently reading comprehension is not your strength. And 2 wildcards won’t help a bad team make the postseason.

                    • Duh Innings

                      Hey dumb o, this is what you wrote.

                      “Pretty sure I remember carrying the Yankees offense to a WS title that year.”

                      You said the entire year with that, or you’d have written this:

                      “Pretty sure I remember A-Rod carrying the Yankees offense in the WS to a WS title that year.”

                      Making yourself clear about what you’ve written is not your strong suit.

                    • jsbrendog

                      violated guidelines x5

                  • jsbrendog

                    violated guidelines x4

              • Pat D

                Melky is not better than Swisher offensively.

                “The kid at 1B” would do absolutely nothing until you’ve defined him. Any kind of projection for this unknown player is completely meaningless.

                And, no, Nunez will never be better than ARod in any way, shape or form.

                • Duh Innings

                  Melky is better than Swisher offensively – see his 2011, dumbo. The Yanks would swap Swisher for Melky Cabrera today. LOL @ you completely ignoring that Melky makes Swisher look like a dude with two left or right legs in the outfield and is in his late 20s not his mid-30s like Swisher is. And thanks for proving my point that you like everyone in here are all about maintaining the status quo which is play these thirtysomethings until they embarrass themselves in the ALDS (see 2005-2007, 2011) or later in the ALDS (see 2010) again which is what they’re gonna do this year if a major trade isn’t pulled off. That is if they even make the postseason or make it past the wildcard game. Pettitte isn’t saving them and neither is Soriano and/or Robertson.

                  The Yanks have the chips to get a good hitting young 1B who I did define: probably not as good as Teixiera defensively, most likely not posting 2009-2011 Teixiera numbers. That isn’t unreasonable by any stretch and neither is 20-22 HR and 75-80 RBI from him. Oh BTW it could even be a young 1B not necessarily a “kid” signed or traded for with all that money saved clearing Teixiera salary.

                  • Pat D

                    Swisher is 31. That’s not mid-30′s. Swisher also bested Melky in HR, OBP and wOBA last year. Yea, Melky had a better BA and SLG, so let’s call it a wash. Look up stats instead of going off memory.

                    I did nothing to prove any point about “maintaining the status quo.” All I’ve done is point out that your ridiculous ideas are, well, ridiculous. Just give it up about this random young 1B, too. I told you to identify one specifically who could be had, and you have not, so you don’t know what you’re talking about. Just like thinking Mason Williams can skip AA and AAA and be in LF next year.

                    I know that when you’re only guy in the room saying something it means you’re either a genius or you’re insane. Well, everything you’ve said so far is more insane than genius. Granted, I admire you for wanting the Yankees to improve the team but you’re going about it in such an unrealistic manner. Then when you have people laugh at you, you immediately resort to name-calling rather than trying to debate with any kind of intelligence. You’re not even considering what the other person says, which automatically means you fail at arguing.

                    Yea, the Yankees might not make the playoffs this year. Who knows? It’s only been 36 of 162 friggin’ games. The Yankees have won the World Series 5 times in my life. That’s a lot. I can live with it if they fail. It seems that maybe you can’t.

                    • Duh Innings

                      Oh stop with the fuckin semantics.

                      I said Swisher was in his mid-30s, yeah, whatever. I meant to say he will be in his mid-30s as a Yankee if they sign him to a three to five year deal he will surely ask as a 31 year old who turns 32 this November. You know what I meant by that.

                      Cabrera is better than Swisher. Younger, faster, higher BA, good OBP, power, more stolen bases, better defense and arm, more range, can play all three OF positions. Last year was his breakout year. Swisher is the second-worst defensive OF on the Yanks and is that only because Ibanez is the absolute worst.

                      Mason Williams is the same age or around the same age as Bryan Harper so he could make the jump and if he did it would be the absolute best low-risk high-reward: the rookie minimum.

                      I don’t have to name a young 1B. There are young 1Bs all over, the key is who could be had among them.

                      Getting rid of A-Rod, Teixiera, and Granderson and replacing them with Nunez, Melky Cabrera, and a young 1B the Yanks could trade for is not unrealistic or insane, it’s the way to go. Starting Mason Williams next year not fucking 2014 or 2015 is the way to go as well.

                      Bottom line which you and the other pile-ons fail to grasp is I’d rather see the Yanks fail with Nunez, Melky, Williams, and a kid at 1B than with Rodriguez, Granderson, Swisher, and Texieira, especially when the better two of the four will be gone as early as 2014.
                      Granderson’s a goner after 2013, he is not getting the three to five years he will want at age 33 on 3/16/14. Swisher is a goner after this year because the Yanks are not giving him the three to five years he will want. Rodriguez is worth more as a gate draw for a shit team like Seattle than as a Yankee. Teixiera still has value and I say trade him before he’s 2004-2008 Giambi Part II.

                      I could care less if you think my ideas are ridiculous, insane, or undoable and blah blah blah. They’re IDEAS. At least I have them unlike you people. All you have are insults, no no no, and status quo.

                  • Need Pitching

                    Swisher and Melky were pretty much even offensively last year. And Melky was rated much worse than Swisher defensively last year.
                    Not that you would let facts or rational thought sway an argument.

                    • Duh Innings

                      Melky worse than Swisher?

                      Cabrera had THIRTEEN assists from CF last year. He has a .338/.386/.490 slashline against NL pitching so far this year, after collecting 201 hits last year so I could give a fuck what his defense is like. He is not worse than Swisher, just stop.

              • Bunt Gardner

                Why as you under-selling “the kid” so much? I hear he could easily put up 40-45 HRs his first year and 120-140 RBI. Some scouts think “the Kid” may be Lou Gehrig reincarnated.

                • Pat D

                  Actually, if we’re going this route, The Kid sadly passed away a few months ago due to cancer. I never liked The Kid when I was a kid, being he was on that ’86 Mets team, but that was sad for a guy like him to die relatively young.

                  • Bunt Gardner

                    I am devastated. I had no idea he had passed. Well, there go my hopes for 2013.

                  • Duh Innings

                    You are a lowlife low class piece of shit making fun of Gary Carter passing away from cancer.

                    • Pat D

                      Wasn’t making fun of him. Just your use of words.

                      Maybe you should also take heed of this from the commenting guidelines:
                      “When arguing and opining about the Yankees, remember that we are all fans of the same team. To that end, personal attacks and insults will not be tolerated. Any comments that we deem libelous, defamatory, abusive, harassing or threatening will not be tolerated, and we may ban repeat offenders from contributing to the site.”

                      Keep it up and you’ll get banned.

                    • Duh Innings

                      VVVVVVVVVVVV

                      I have not violated the guidelines whatsoever.

                      I came on here with posts abiding by the guidelines then you, Needs Pitching, Bunt Gardner, Karl Krawfid, MidlandTX etc. violated the guidelines at every turn.

                      Fu ck you and good night.

                    • jsbrendog

                      I have not violated the guidelines whatsoever.

                      BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

                      and, hey, flapjack, you violate the commening guidelines in your finl sentence in the post you said you haven’t violated them at all…

                      Fu ck you and good night.

                      ps.

                      f(o)l(a)a(k)p(t)j(a)a(g)c(!)k

                    • jsbrendog

                      violated guidelines x6 (big one, a whopper if you will)

    • Pat D

      (deep breath)

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

      (deep breath)

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

      Seriously, you sound like a crazy person. Or, if not crazy, just completely and utterly foolishly optimistic.

      • Duh Innings

        Why am I crazy?

        What’s with all the rude replies? Can’t deal with intelligence, stupids?

        You got a better idea? Let’s read it. If you don’t, shut the fuck up.

        • Need Pitching

          trade Swisher for Strasburg and Harper, then trade Teixiera and ARod for Longoria and Price

          much, much better idea
          and an equally snowball’s chance in hell of actually happening

          • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

            That ‘s actually not too far off from one of his earlier proposals.

            http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....nt-4139513

            • Need Pitching

              lmao

          • Duh Innings

            ‘Not what I wrote, jackass.

            I didn’t even say WHO the Yanks should trade Rodriguez, Teixiera, and Granderson for.

            They could get good players back from those trades for the ton of money they’re paying for who they’re sending out.

            Change your name to “Need Manners” or more like “Need Brains”.

            • Need Pitching

              I didn’t say that’s what you wrote.
              You asked for a better idea.
              I gave you a much better idea.
              Neither my proposal nor any of your ridiculous proposals stand even a remote chance of happening or even being possible.

              Keep going with the ridiculous proposals though. Late night humor is always appreciated.

              • Duh Innings

                You gave no ideas other than “no, don’t do it” cuz you’re a no-brained, no-idea idiot.

                You have no ideas of your own, none.

                You do know the Yanks have to get younger, right? So if it isn’t what I’m proposing which would be radical but not crazy, it should be something else. A point you obviously missed you dumbass with nothing to say.

                Eight years of A-Rod, three of Teixiera, three of Swisher, and two of Granderson for SIXTEEN seasons: ONE WORLD SERIES (2009.) TWO DECADES if they don’t win the World Series this season.

                LOL @ me having you shook, pussy, cuz only a shook pussy goes out of his way to say he finds “humor” in what is written.

                • Need Pitching

                  wow, you are a complete fucking moron

                  I’m done wasting my time with you, tough guy

                  • Duh Innings

                    You are a complete fucking moron who can’t take what he dishes.

                    My steak is undercooked, I wanted it well done. Go tell the chef to cook it more, waiterboy.

                    I’m a tough guy? You’re the tough guy starting shit with me instead of being cool like one guy who replied to my idea without acting like a teenaged girl who just started Twitter or got her first iPhone or Android or whatever like you did.

                    Again change your name to “Need Manners” or “Need Brains”.

                    • Pat D

                      He’ll change his name to “Need Manners” when you do so first, OK?

                    • Need Pitching

                      I can take whatever you can throw, chief.
                      If you can’t handle people critiquing your ridiculous proposals, feel free to keep them to yourself.

                    • Duh Innings

                      VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

                      Pat D

                      Um since you or someone prevented me from replying to your comments below.

                      I came on here with good manners. This asshole “Needs Pitching” started in and felt the need to be rude, so I sent it back, OK????????????

                      Need Pitching

                      Oh now you can take anything I can throw after you ended it by calling me a name you’d never call me to my face unless you wanted yours slapped and saying you were done with me.

                      You didn’t “critique” shit, you wrote rude shit to me. You calling my proposals “ridiculous” is not critique, it is being a rude asshole which is what you are. At least I have ideas unlike you you little backbiter who is too afraid to stick out his neck with ideas of his own. It’s easier to be rude and make fun.

                      You people have soaked in my ideas and believe in at least part of them or you wouldn’t have responded with such vitriol.
                      It’s ok to say yeah that’s a good idea. It’s also ok to say no that’s a bad idea, only when you say that, be civil about it not a little insultory shit who cries when his garbage is sent back to him.

            • Pat D

              You’ve told people to “shut the fuck up,” and have called people “jackass” and “The Three Stooges” and you suggest someone change their handle to “Need Manners”?!?!

              Talk about the pot and the kettle.

              • Duh Innings

                …And you made a sick joke about Gary Carter you should be banned for. You made light of a man who died of brain cancer.

                That alone makes what I called you and the others who felt the need to gang up on me like kids ganging up on the new kid in the schoolyard meaningless.

                • Pat D

                  No, I didn’t make fun of him dying. In fact, I said “that was sad for a guy like him to die relatively young.” Please don’t pretend I said something I did not.

              • jsbrendog

                and dumbo, and stupids, and other nonsensical nonenglish words

          • Bunt Gardner

            Oooh….Let’s send ARod to Miami for Stanton, Swisher to the Mets for Wright, and Tex to LA for Kershaw. Who needs a first baseman if Nunez is going to play short.

            • Need Pitching

              good point about Nunez
              Somebody needs to forward this information to Cash immediately. #28 will be a lock.

              • Bunt Gardner

                I’ll send it to him in Twitter or text form.

        • Pat D

          You’re crazy to think that anyone would take either Teixeira’s or ARod’s contracts.

          Here’s why: The Yankees will simply not eat that much money to have someone play against them. You can go throw AJ in as a rebuttal all you want, but you’re talking, I believe it was $30 million or so for him against a combined $117 million for those two. Come on now, if you were running the Yankees would you spend that much to have guys play for somebody else? Get real.

          You’re crazy to think that any combination of Nunez, Pearce and Mustelier would be as productive. Nunez can’t play the field, Pearce has a career .232/.302/.366 line in 521 major league PA’s and was let go by PITTSBURGH and MINNESOTA of all teams, and Mustelier is a complete unknown quantity.

          So when they fail, who’s going to replace them? Oh, that’s right, just go out and trade for a 1B prospect. Fine, you tell me who that is and how the Yankees get him. Go ahead.

          Also, I’d watch with saying “shut the fuck up” to someone like this. Good way to get yourself banned.

          • Jesse

            Thank you.

          • Duh Innings

            Ooooooh I’m gonna get banned huh?

            Well, if I’m gonna get banned, moderator (???), you should either ban yourself or Mike Axisa or whoever the mod is should ban you for making a joke about Gary Carter.

            I mention the Yanks should get a kid for 1B and you see it as an in to make fun of a man who died of brain cancer. What is wrong with you? That is far worse than anything I have ever typed in these comments.

            Go report me to the mods and I will write them to ask them why weren’t you banned for making fun of a man who died of brain cancer (before I tell them to go @#$% themselves considering I came on here insulting no one and out came the typical RAB comments wolfpack.)

            LOL @ you mentioning Pearce’s slashline as Teixiera’s current BA and OBP is less than or around that. You go look around at what young 1B there are. I gave the idea, now you go fetch doggie. And how do you know they’re gonna “fail”? I’d rather see three guys making less than what A-Rod makes in half a month fail than A-Rod fail. If they “fail” they can be “replaced”. It’s called trades, waiver wire, signed released players, minor league contracts, offseason signings. Teixiera would be lucky to finish 2012 with Pearce’s career slashline the way he is going and spare me the “constricted airway” excuse cuz Teixiera was awful before that.

            You seem to erroneously think A-Rod is the A-Rod of old, more specifically through 2007/08/09 (pick your last good year.) He has FIVE homeruns this year. He had LESS THAN TWENTY last year. If Nunez smacked just 10 HR in 2013, guess what? That might be only 7 HR less than what 2013 A-Rod finishes with and guess what again? The Yanks could get another guy to play some 3B who combined with Nunez hits as many HRs as or more HRs than 2013 A-Rod. Or 2014/15/16/17 A-Rod.

            Oh yeah – what part of eat up to $117M but clear up to $117M did you not understand?

            I dare you to report me to the mod/s. Go ahead cuz guess what part III? I was banned once and here I am. You made fun of Gary Carter, that’s what I have on you and if the mod/s had any shred of decency, he/they would ban you along with or instead of me. I could care less if I’m banned. I came on here insulting no one and that’s a fact.

            • Pat D

              One final time, because I really need sleep, I DID NOT MAKE FUN OF GARY CARTER DYING! That’s how you interpreted it, but nowhere did I say, “Ha ha, Gary Carter died.” Again, I said “that was sad for a guy like him to die relatively young.” Reading comprehension fail.

              No, I will not go look around for what young 1B is out there. I don’t have to go “fetch” for your idea. I realize that the Yankees are stuck with Teix, and you do not. How do I know they’re going to fail? OK, you got me, I don’t. But there’s nothing in any of their track records which makes it likely that they’ll succeed either. So how do you know they’ll succeed? And there are teams that do what you suggest, as far as just rotating out players who don’t succeed. They’re called losing teams. If the Yankees were doing something like this, it would be because they’re losing. Teix will finish above Pearce’s career stat line, too.

              I’ve never said anything about ARod’s production. I’m well aware it’s declining and I wish that he was hitting more home runs, too. Nunez might hit a few HR’s but you’re forgetting the part where he is an absolute butcher with the glove. If you’re going to talk about how terrible Swisher looks compared to Melky, please don’t conveniently overlook this point.

              Clearing up $117 million over the next 4-6 years would be great. But guess what? The Yankees are not going to eat $117 million just to do that!

              I’m not going to report you to the mods. I’m not petty. I was warning you for your own good. I can’t say I’m surprised to see that you’ve been banned once. I’m not going to get banned for saying anything about Gary Carter because nothing I said violated the commenting guidelines, which don’t really seem to be enforced anyway.

              It is true you came on hear insulting no one. You are correct. But as I said earlier, the moment people got on your case, you did nothing BUT insult people. So don’t go playing the victim card. You gave as much as you took.

              Have a good night.

              • Duh Innings

                You people got on my case in a nasty way, so I responded accordingly. So it’s ok to get on my case, pile on, gang up on me, then why I slap the shit out of all of you with one slap like Sonny did to C’s friends after he caught them selling guns on his block in “A Bronx Tale”, you all cry ban me, watch out you’re gonna get banned, and talk about banning people. You and everyone else are the classic case of “we can dish it out but we can’t take it”. Well I dished it out and you couldn’t take it. Oh yeah, since you all want to be the pathetic adult grown-ass men cyberbullies in your little cyberplayground, YOU STARTED IT.

                Now, for the last time YOU DID MAKE FUN OF GARY CARTER DYING OF BRAIN CANCER, and how smug you are to say you will not get banned. Why you’re pals with the guys on here? I know this is a little boy’s club here so I wouldn’t be surprised if you remained. Here’s the proof which is readily available in this thread:

                Bunt Gardner says:
                May 16, 2012 at 2:48 am

                Why as you under-selling “the kid” so much? I hear he could easily put up 40-45 HRs his first year and 120-140 RBI. Some scouts think “the Kid” may be Lou Gehrig reincarnated.
                Reply

                Pat D says:
                May 16, 2012 at 2:52 am

                Actually, if we’re going this route, The Kid sadly passed away a few months ago due to cancer. I never liked The Kid when I was a kid, being he was on that ’86 Mets team, but that was sad for a guy like him to die relatively young.

                ——————————————–

                What you posted was totally uncalled for, out in left field, out of line, and shameful. “If we’re going this route”? When I wrote a (not THE) kid, Gary Carter and his nickname when he was a Met (and thereafter) was nowhere in my mind, I wasn’t going on any “route”. And then you felt the need to inject him in the convo out of nowhere. I found it inappropriate and it smacked of you making fun of him. Bunt Gardner mentions Lou Gehrig (and makes fun of him, too) and you brought up another man who passed away of a horrible disease which by the way, a good woman’s mother died of, asshole, one reason I wrote what I wrote. So one idiot invoked Gehrig and the other invoked Carter. I didn’t invoke any dead people, you and Bunt Gardner did.

                Re: Teixiera. He is moveable. $45M across 4 years under my plan is utterly moveable. ‘Funny how you mention “losing” teams when the Yanks have won only one World Series after 2000 and were beaten in the World Series by two teams with less payroll (Arizona) and far less payroll (Marlins) than the Yanks in 2001 and 2003. The Yanks could be the moneymaking version of both teams but chose to be status quo instead of proactive.

                I should hope Teixiera finishes 2012 with well above Pearce’s slashline, but .245/.338/.433 / .771 which is what Teixiera is looking like he’ll finish beinng is still shit and even more cuz we could get that from Pearce or any hack out there for a fraction of Teixiera.

                You just don’t get that they’re better off eating up to $117M and clearing the same than devoting up to $234M to two moveable hasbeens.

                BTW I never said Nunez, etc. would succeed, I merely said it is not a lock that they would fail because they make less than what A-Rod makes in half a month combined. Jeter, Cano, Gardner, and Melky Cabrera would be our main men under my plan.
                Nunez, Mason Williams, and a young 1B acquired via trade would be an infusion of youth the Yanks haven’t had in many years. Yes, it would be different, but it would be exciting. And there’s room for a new RF-DH tandem with power in case the kids don’t show much.

            • jsbrendog

              you don’t read “good” do you?

        • Bunt Gardner

          When did you use intelligence?

          • Duh Innings

            Fuck you.

            Oh no I’m gonna get banned!!!

        • jsbrendog

          violated guidelines x7

      • Midland TX

        I think it sounds like an old friend from another website, Disabled Mess.

    • LK

      So just to clarify, your “solution” is to replace Teixeira and A-Rod with Nunez and Pearce?

      • Bunt Gardner

        AND Mustelier.

      • Need Pitching

        or Ronnier Mustelier and Pearce.
        Don’t forget Ronnier Mustelier.

        • Duh Innings

          All three are low-risk high-reward and utterly replaceable and tradeable. Mustellier is a Cuban League veteran in his late 20s (I think 27) who can play a better 3B than A-Rod. He was just promoted from AA to AAA after tearing it up in AA and some blogs have talked about him possibly vying for the backup infielder job for the big club Yanks, so he’s not some kid. If Nix falls to injury, he could very well get the callup as I doubt the Yanks would call up Russo or call Nunez back up to suck as a backup 2B/3B/SS.

          The Yanks would clear so much salary they could get creative with signings. they could have Pearce share 1B with another guy. I would not mind Youkilis for two years cuz the dude is a bulldog who can play 1B and 3B and I think make Boston pay for letting him go.

          I would rather see Pearce and Nunez-Mustellier (not both in everyday positions, nice failed try at twisting my words) for 2013 or part of 2013 then A-Rod 2013-17 / age 37-42 and Teixiera 2013-16 / age 33-37. If you do you’re morons. Total, utter morons.

          What’s your solution? I’m waiting. Or are you gonna act like the little bullies or wannabe bullies in a schoolyard with me?

          • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

            You forgot to mention trading CC and replacing him with Betances. Think of all the salary that would free up!

    • Jesse

      Please. Just stop.

      • Duh Innings

        Make me.

        What’s with all the Twitter and text-length replies?

        Your little brains can’t handle full sentences and thoughts?

        I guess that’s what happens when you’re in your 20s and you’ve read Tweets and whatever mobile device attached to you like an appendage more than books.

        • jsbrendog

          oh man, this makes it even worse….you’re prob what, like, 45? sigh.

    • Tim

      The solution is their is NO solution…..

      Alex will continue to be overpaid until 2017
      Mark will continue to be paid as the Dave Kingman with a glove
      Jeter will exercise is player option next season (and I am OK w/that)
      They will exercise Cano’s 15mil opt or buy it out and give him a new deal (I’m ok with that)
      They will probably exercise Grandy’s option (13mil) for 2013 (don’t know if I am OK with that)

      These are our guys for the next few years……

      • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

        I don’t think using logic is gonna work with this guy…

        • Duh Innings

          Logic? Reads more like resignation.

          Never say never. Did anyone ever think A-Rod would be a Yankee? No, and stop considering the record contract Texas gave him. Most of you didn’t think the Yanks could get rid of Burnett and look where he wound up: Pittsburgh. And NONE of you, myself included, thought Pittsburgh was in the equation until the rumors involving them swirled around.

          Teixiera would be only a four-year $11.25M a year ($45M total) proposition for anyone who takes him under my plan of trading him and half his remaining salary. He could be a 1B 2013-14 then a DH 2015-16 or a 1B 2013-15 then a DH 2016, if he was traded to an AL team (the ideal taker cuz he’d be more sellable.) I mean, you all know there is such a thing as DH, right? It would be more difficult to trade him to an NL team but there are 16 NL teams.

          A-Rod would be the biggest gate draw in Seattle if he was traded there. Ichiro will not be a Mariner next year and King Felix will not be one for the rest of or after 2014, he will be tradedduring 2014 or let go after 2014, no way he signs his prime away with a perennial last place loser like Seattle.

          Granderson would be wanted by at least ten teams. A one-year $13M veteran slugging CF? C’mon. Take a number.

          • jsbrendog

            A-Rod would be the biggest gate draw in Seattle if he was traded there

            I would bet moneyt he would not be. why would he be? please give one reasonable and valid answer as to why someone past his prime would be a ticket draw. and saying well he came up with seattle means nothing. he wasn’t beloved like griffey or a prodigal son.

            Ichiro will not be a Mariner next year

            why not? i’d bet money he will be. what else do they have going for them? he is literally their only non felix gate draw and still brings in the far east market. He isn’t going to get big bucks, he can still play and contribute and it isn’t like seattle is contending in the next yr or two and if they do it will be better for them to have someone like ichiro included in that. he WAS and is to a degree behind felix the face of that franchise.

            King Felix will not be one for the rest of or after 2014

            right, just like he’d never sign a below market extension to stay there!!!!

            Granderson would be wanted by at least ten teams. A one-year $13M veteran slugging CF?

            i’ll give you one. even les reason to trade him because he will help you get to the playoffs and possibly the ws this year. do you want the yanks to miss the playoffs?

  • Brad G.

    People are talking about this team like we’re already done. Like we’re the Twins or Cubs. We have work to do sure. People need to get healthy, and Tex needs to figure it out. Pitching has been better the last turn through the rotation than the beginning of the year. There’s still a ton of ball to be played. Let’s back up off the cliff already.

    • Pat D

      But it’s so much more fun at the cliff.

    • Tim

      But fixing the Yankees problems is what we all do best at……meanwhile my house is in foreclosure, my wife left me for the mailman, my kids call me by my first name and my boss calls me “dumba$$”…..LOL

      my apologies if any of the above is true for any posters here. Just trying to be funny

      • jsbrendog

        come on Tim, I”M SITTING RIGHT HERE!!! why you gotta put my life on blast like that?!?!?!

  • Duh Innings

    HERE IS MY FIRST POST. I INSULTED NO ONE IN IT.

    Duh Innings says:
    May 16, 2012 at 1:27 am

    Yet another team who finished last or next to last last year the Yanks didn’t win or sweep a series against. Split with the Twins, split with the Royals, split with the Os after dropping two of three to them (so now 2-3 in their last 5 with the Os), two out of three over Seattle when it should’ve been a sweep with them beating King Felix.

    8-8 SHIT. Oh wait, 10-9 with the series win over the Rays. Still shit which could smell 11-10 or 10-11 worse if they’re not careful with the Blue Jays. Lemme guess, Blue Jays ace Ricky Romero is starting Thursday? That’d be just the Yanks dumb luck haha.

    This team is not a World Series championship contender, not as presently constituted. I am at a loss as to come up with a solution for them. I don’t think there is one barring a blockbuster, franchise-changing trade.

    Girardi was outmanaged by Showalter last night. Girardi should’ve ordered the slumping Teixiera who is looking more and more like 2004-2008 Jason Giambi with the bat to (try to) bunt A-Rod over to third with no outs. Instead, he let Teixiera make yet another unproductive out.

    They need to rebuild the starting nine for 2013 with Jeter, Cano, and Gardner. I am sick of Teixiera. The Yanks should offer him and $7.5M a year 2013-16 to whoever is willing to take on the other $15M a year 2013-16. I think he’d get a taker and no, he would not exercise his no-trade power because he would not want to be with a team that doesn’t want him anymore. If the Yanks want to trade him, he’s out of here, it’s just a matter of where he’d go which is mutually acceptable to him and the Yanks.

    HERE IS MY SECOND POST WHICH WAS A REPLY TO SOMEONE, THE ONLY PERSON, WHO DIDN’T GET PERSONAL WITH ME. I INSULTED NO ONE IN IT, NOT EVEN THE GUY WHO REPLIED TO ME.

    Duh Innings says:
    May 16, 2012 at 2:06 am

    I’m telling ya, they need to trade Rodriguez, Teixiera, and I think ultimately Granderson, too, as Granderson turns 33 on 3/16/14 which means the Yanks will have him through age 36, 37, or 38 if they give him a three to five year extension or contract after 2013 (assuming his club option for 2013 is picked up which I think it will be regardless of what he does this season.) I just don’t see them signing Granderson through age 36, 37, or 38. They’re not risking locking up another guy into his late 30s, they’re just not. I don’t want them to give him a three to five year deal or even a two-year deal he’d never accept. If I were him I’d ask for a one-year $14M extension ($1M raise) so I’d have two good or better cracks at collecting a World Series ring in 2013 and 2014. CC took a one-year extension and not even as a $25M vesting option with a $5M buyout – why not Granderson? At least the Yanks would be giving Granderson $14M guaranteed, no vesting option and/or buyout.

    If the Yanks traded all three this offseason and for a rookie minimum-making 1B, started Nunez or Jeter at 3B, re-signed Melky Cabrera for RF, and gave Mason Williams a shot in LF and the ninth slot in the batting order (Gardner moves to CF his natural position), I think they’d still be in business. It’d be a bit risky with the kids at 1B, 3B, and CF but I’d rather see these kids grow and struggle then see A-Rod ages 37-42 and Teixiera ages 33-37. A-Rod and Teixiera got their World Series rings with the Yanks no one could ever take away from them, so it is time that they move on. BTW Nunez, Williams, and Melky Cabrera back a Yankee means a 2/3rds homegrown starting nine with those three, Jeter, Cano, and Gardner, 7/9ths if they start Romine or Cervelli or have both share C. Why not sign Juan Rivera for a year and $3.5M ($4M total earned with the Dodgers buying hm him out for $500K) with a $4M club option for 2015 and see what he has left at DH for a possible 8/9ths homegrown starting nine?

    Oh yeah – trading Rodriguez, Teixiera, and Granderson means they’d clear a ton of salary to extend Jeter, Cano, and Gardner.

    ————————————————————

    Need Pitching was insultory to me at every turn.

    Pat D made fun of Gary Carter dying of brain cancer.

    I never replied to these two before they replied to me nor did I call out for them or call them out.

    I call for these two to be banned.

    I have merely defended myself from personal attacks mostly by these two throughout this thread after the above initial posts.

    I will keep posting here as long as I can and if I’m banned, I will write to ask what’s up in lieu of stating my case here.

    • jjyank

      I just had the displeasure of reading through this entire thread…and all I gotta say is this:

      Duh Innings:

      That’s great that you want to find creative ways to make the Yankees a better team. But you have to know that trading A-Rod and Tex is absolutely, 100% impossible. The Yankees won’t eat enough money, other teams won’t take on that much money, and they have no trade clauses.

      If you want to continue to believe that this is possible, then fine, go right ahead. But when other posters point out the impossibility of such trades, you go on an absolute tirade. I can’t even count how many insults you threw out there. It is completely uncalled for. Nobody will ever take you seriously with such obnoxious responses. And don’t give me the “they started it!” line. All I saw were relatively innocent responses that questioned the incredible unfeasibility of your proposal, only you have you act like somebody ran over your dog. Chill man.

      • jsbrendog

        seconded

      • Erica

        Thirded.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      You are, without question, the most ignorant commenter we’ve ever had. Bravo, that takes a lot of hard work and persistence.

      • Pat D

        Sorry for helping to make this post pretty unreadable, Mike. Next time I’ll just make sure I go into O:S mode.

      • Erica

        I feel as though this quote from “Billy Madison” applies to Duh Innings:

        Principal: Mr. Madison, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

        • Bunt Gardner

          lmao…perfect!

      • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

        I was thinking the same thing. Lots of ignoramuses here throughtout the years so to so decisively take the cake is really saying something.

  • Monterowasnotdinero

    Wow-just woke up to all this Yankee fan passion. Hope you guys are sleeping well now. The reality is none of Duh Innings ideas will come to fruition. They are not bad though. I like Melky-especially his clutch hitting and great arm and youth. I hate the thought of ARod and Tex for the next 5 years at their salaries. The Yankees and their fans are more tolerant of old, expensive previously great players fading with big contracts then young players making peanuts and having growing pains with no guarantee of future results. For me, I would only sign Cano and not resign Swish or Grandy after exercising the one year option for the latter. Mason Williams, Banuelos, Phelps, Mustellier-I’m ready. Getting the right mix is the challenge.

    ARod won’t break any more HR records if traded to Safeco. There was a time when I thought he was a lock to be the all time HR king. Not anymore. Tex is overpaid but defense and (eventual) 30 HR will keep him in pinstripes.

  • Monterowasnotdinero

    For Tex: did you see Ortiz hit a HR and then bunt to beat the shift? Watch and learn. He is also hitting a TON better than you and still bunted.

  • the other “D.J” of the Yankees (formerly STONE COLD Austin Romine)

    I see 96+ responses after what was pretty much an empty loss… I knew that there had to be some fuckery involved between posters.

    Side note: anytime someone makes empty threats through a cpu screen I just laugh and thank you all for entertaining me this morning.

  • high heat

    Just ride the storm out, biatches:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.....TBv4kAdk_w

  • Bavarian Yankee

    the recent imports from Japan have been pretty good so far. I’m even more happy for Chen than I am for Darvish because I thought Chen would really have trouble in the MLB. He was one of my favourite pitchers in Japan, so I hope he can keep on performing that well.

    • DJ4K&Monterowasdinero

      They got Chen. Texas got Darvish. We got Igawa :-( Yes-I know about Matsui.

      • Kosmo

        Maybe the Igawa signing still stings but Chen looks like a damn good pitcher. Orioles sign him for 3 years 11 mil while NY resigns Garcia for 4 million 1 year. I dunno.

  • Erica

    I came to this recap thread in order to find some intelligent discussion about last night’s game but the war with Duh Innings ruined it for me.

    Thank you Duh Innings. Thank you. Back to work I go, doo de doo.

    • jsbrendog

      it was kind of entertaining once you got over the SMASHHULKSMASH feeling though…like a car or train wreck.

      • Erica

        COME AT ME BRO PUT A SOCK IN IT trololololo

        • jsbrendog

          ::fist pumping interlude::

    • Pat D

      Yea, sorry about that. I take full responsibility for my part in it. I just couldn’t let it go.

      • Erica

        THAT WAS YOU? WHY?

        • Erica

          Oh wait I can’t read – because I didn’t read through all those comments. I didn’t feel like cleaning up the blood that’d inevitably trickle from my eyes.

          I read it as though you were admitting to trolling as “Duh Innings.”

          • Pat D

            Nope. Just one of the counter-points.

            • Erica

              Phew. Duh Innings is fun.

              • Pat D

                Yea I just finished reading every response he made to me after I finally called it a night. The only part I’d classify as “fun” is where he seemed to think it was possible for me to prevent him replying to me.

                • jsbrendog

                  pat d, magician, weds and thurs nights in may. tip your servers

                  • Pat D

                    This made me laugh because of a comment he made at Needs Pitching about his steak being undercooked or something. He won’t be tipping.

                    • jsbrendog

                      i saw that hahaha. wtf.

  • Johnny O

    This was a bizarre comment thread for a slightly frustrating but overall fairly innocuous mid-May game against Baltimore.

    Obviously Duh Innings has his own issues but I wonder why other people get so fired up in their replies? After 1-2 failed attempts, why fight so hard to try to convince Duh Innings how ludicrous the whole thing is? Oh well.

    • Pat D

      Well, for me, it was because after I said something to him, his first post back to me told me to “shut the fuck up.”

      As I said a few minutes ago, I should have just gone into Operation: Shutdown. Trust me, with Duh Innings, I am now.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I knew when I saw the number of comments here that some shit went down.

    • Havok9120

      Yup. I had an internal bet as I came in here this morning whether it was Plank v. Nelson XCIV, Duh Innings doing his thing, some combination of cliff jumpers making sure we knew that they were jumping UNLESS THEIR DEMANDS WERE MET and then refusing to jump, or people just having 6 or 7 nice, separate, discussions about baseball.

      It is so rarely that last one.

      • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

        I was guessing plank v Nelson too.

  • eephus_pitch

    Well, that sucked.

    • Havok9120

      Your unintelligent twitter-type comment just proves your stupidity and caused my steak to be undercooked because you’re always on your “facebook” and using your “mobile telephones” instead of COOKING MY STEAK.

      COME AT ME BRO!

      • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

        Lulz.

        This is the thread that keeps on giving. I wonder what meme will come out of it in future threads?

        Is it the steak thing? The sock? Trading Tex and Arod? Just…so much fodder.

        • Pat D

          Obviously it will be my making fun of Gary Carter’s death. Which of course, I never did.

          Since I don’t want to be accused of it again, someone should combine it with the Flanny meme.

      • eephus_pitch

        Can’t argue with that.

        • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

          Oh yes you can you fucking pussy! COME ON!

          • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

            (sorry had to do it)

            • eephus_pitch

              Don’t make me start listing all my martial arts and marksmanship awards.
              Because I really am THAT BAD ASS.

  • http://twitter/TheRealJeromeS Jerome S.

    This is why I don’t comment here anymore.