Jun
02

Report: Jorge Soler finally declared a free agent

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Via Ken Rosenthal, 20-year-old Cuban outfielder Jorge Soler has been declared a free agent and is free to sign with any team. He can sign for any amount until the spending restrictions implemented by the new Collective Bargaining Agreement take effect on July 2nd, so expect him to sign sometime this month.

The Yankees were said to have “serious interest” in Soler earlier this season, but obviously they’re not the only club in the hunt. Bidding could approach $20M across four or five years on a big league contract. I’m a fan based on the little we know and it would be great to see the Yankees add a young player of this caliber to the organization. Either way, expect to here a whole lot about Soler over the next few weeks.

  • your mom

    Do it Cash, do it!

  • Frank

    Im not one to say they “have” to get any young player, but with montero gone and the best of the farm years away…I think it would be a good move to do whatever it takes to sign this kid…assuming they think he’s worth it.

    • RetroRob

      True, although he will be another one of those players years away.

  • Cano fan #1

    Cashman hurry up

  • http://riveraveblues.com Rich

    C’mon Hank! Take a page out of your father’s book and sign this kid. We need a top flight super prospect that could be an elite right fielder for years and years. Stop letting other teams beat you out!

    • Ted Nelson

      A team is not “beating you out” if you think they’re wasting their money and were not interested in paying the kid that much. The Yankees clearly have the money to outbid other teams if they feel like it. They’ve managed to build a strong farm system more efficiently by spreading money around and bringing in a lot of prospects.

  • DM

    Hmmm… I was higher on him earlier — but then I read something about him being better suited to 1st base than the OF. If he’s a DH/butcher defender type, I’m not as excited. We have enough players already to take those DH ABs.

  • Frank O

    after passing on Darvish and Chapman (and even Cespedes, who is not doing well right now, but the jury is still out on him), it is time for the Yankees to use some of their financial clout, I’m getting a little tired of the fiscally responsible Yankees (I know I’m spoiled as a Yankee fan).

  • Travis L.

    Do I hear Swishers replacement coming???

  • Max Power

    No super-cheap bids like w/Darvish this time, please. Either go strong or don’t even bother.

    • Bunt Gardner

      You don’t post bids on a free agent.

  • Kenny Faust

    Is he not signed yet? Cash …let’s do this…NOW!

  • Tyrone Sharpton

    Eventual affordable answer in RF? cashman’s gunna get this guy

    • Ted Nelson

      Or eventual waste of money and drag on the $189 budget… You’ve got to be really, really high on the kid to give him an MLB deal before making a US pro PA.

  • Kevin G.

    Want

  • http://fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

    I’m wondering if this is one of those situations that Cashman refers to that “the less you hear, the more is going on. ”

    Most MSM reports list 6 teams other than the Yankees as the most likely suitors. If Cashman says “no comment” when asked you might as well fit Soler for pinstripes.

  • http://Riveraveblues Austinmac

    Soler is just what the doctor ordered as a last chance to add a significant international piece before to new rules and the Yankee outfield prospects are years away.

    Baseball Prospectus said the Yankees have a “mild interest”. Get ready for a mild, pointless bid.

    The team now is unwilling to spend on risks. No longer do they perceive they can afford an error. Curious, when many other teams, such as the Reds and A’s will do so.

    • Jamey

      If the risk aspect is holding them back, in fairness I don’t see how making a substantial offer to a prospect is any more risky than taking a gamble that A-Rod would still be an MVP-level cleanup hitter in his late 30’s.

      • RetroRob

        The Yankees never expected A-Rod to be an MVP-level player in the later years of his contract, any more than the Angels expect that about Pujols. Teams expect declining performance and that is factored into the signing. What they hope is the player doesn’t suffer a catastrophic injury (as A-Rod basically did, although he’s recovered enough to remain productive), or a complete loss in ability (like Zito).

    • http://steveferrara@yahoo.com Steve (different one)

      Do you not get the difference between negotiating with a free agent and a blind bid posting system?

    • Ted Nelson

      There’s a huge difference between spending $3 million on a “risk” and $20-100 million with an MLB deal to boot.

      I think that refraining from taking $20+ million risks on unproven players is going to be the right call more often than not. Certainly you pick your spots, but as a general rule it’s not something I’d do.

  • Jamey

    I don’t agree with reactionary moves, but in the wake of losing the system’s top offensive prospect Soler would practically be like drafting in the Top 10. They were fairly interested in Cespedes, & Soler is younger so I’d have to think they’d flex a little more of that old Steinbrenner financial muscle for Soler.

  • deadrody

    Considering the spending cap to come in the very near future that is intended to level the playing field, how can the deep-pocketed Yankees NOT go all in before that cap is in place ?

    I cannot fathom a reason.

    • http://steveferrara@yahoo.com Steve (different one)

      What if he’s not that good? Is that a reason?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Remember when everyone freaked out because they didn’t sign Michael Ynoa? He signed in June 2008 and has faced 37 batters since.

    • Ted Nelson

      The whole MLB deal, $189 million budget is a pretty strong reason. You might be paying $4-5 million for a mediocre AA player come 2014-15.

  • bkight13

    There is no downside this time. It’s only money, no draft picks, cap limits, age concerns….Just do it!!!

    • Bunt Gardner

      There is always a potential downside to a free agent signing.

    • Need Pitching

      There is one potential downside. He may command a MLB contract, in which case he would count against the 189M luxury tax threshold in 2014 whether he was in the majors at that point or not.

      • YankeeGrunt

        Yes but he is 19 and is expected to be a fast mover, if not quite Bryce Harper the sort of kid who would probably start at full-season. If he is ready for the bigs by 2014 he’d probably be a substantial cost savings.

        • Need Pitching

          That’s a big if though. He may be ready by then, he may be ready later, or he may end up as a bust. A 19 year old getting a late start to the 2012 season being ready for 2014 seems very optimistic.

          I hope they do sign him. I’m just pointing out that there are possible downsides.

          • Ted Nelson

            Agree. Have to be very, very, very high on him to offer an MLB deal.

  • http://Riveraveblues Austinmac

    Deadrody,

    It will be stupid not to go all out for him. This is the last chance to sign a potential young impact bat. They have shown me no reason to think they will be players. I’m afraid we all remember the good old days.

    • Need Pitching

      I’m curious as to how they would show you a reason to think they will be players. If they are seriously interested, it would likely be more beneficial for them to be as quiet about it as possible.

      • Steve (different one)

        Well, you could have your head scout announce that you were given orders to sign him at any cost. That might qualify….

        • Need Pitching

          yes, that was a brilliant negotiating tactic, wasn’t it?

    • Ted Nelson

      How many times have you seen Soler play? How on earth do you know if it’s stupid not to go for him?

      When were the good old days that the Yankees spent $20 million on a 19 year old?

  • Leg-End

    All aboard the Soler train.

  • jayd808

    With Alex at 37, you wonder where the next Yankee uber slugger is going to come from. They NEED one for sure. Who would they trade for? Who can they gamble some money on? Soler looks like a chance in the making for them. I’m on this train.

    • Ethan

      Is Cano not an uber slugger?

  • Jose M. Vazquez..

    I don’t know if they made an offer or not for Chapman but they may be regretting it now. I’m in accord on signing this kid. After all, we have no one nearly ready for the outfield as he probably is. I believe that if he is sent to the minors, he will move up fast. Or maybe he can play in the bigs now (after a couple of weeks of extended Spring training.

    • Need Pitching

      he would likely start in A ball at the highest

    • Ted Nelson

      How much have you seen of this kid to be commenting on where he’ll start and how fast he’ll move?

      Chapman is a beast and has worked out, but that deal was a lot of risk for a relief pitcher.

  • YankeeGrunt

    DePaula will apparently pitch in the DSL this year, after all the bs over his visa.

  • MannyGeee

    This!

    I think that for all the reasons above (not making a move for Cespedes, who has been pretty decent before getting hurt; the urgency to make a move before the Intl signing cap stupid thing; the apparent glaring hole in RF if Swish looks for market value; the $189M hanging over our heads; the fact that he could probably start in Hi-A with the hope that there is something to the hype about him being a quick study) Cashman has to be thinking about this more than he is letting on…

    4/$21M? I think that could get it done.

  • Fin

    I dont get all these people saying the Yankees have to sign this guy, and that he is the answer to replace Swisher. Its seems to me to be very unlikely that a guy who hasnt played an inning in the United states will be ready for the MLB baseball next year at the age of 20. It seems entirely possible that he wouldnt be ready to play for a team like the Yankees until his contract was about to expire in four or 5 years. Teams like the A’s can take these chances because they are replacing crap so the threshold to reach the big team is much lower. Teams like the A’s also cannot afford top flight free agents so their best bet at getting a super star for an extended time is taking these chances. The Yankees can pay more for less risky players, the A’s dont have that luxory.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I saw his name on the internet. Therefore, the Yankees HAVE to sign him or Cashman will have failed yet again.

    They should also sign Rebecca Black and the I Can Haz Cheezburger cats, since I also heard about them on the internet.

    • Bunt Gardner

      Don’t forget the Dramatic Gopher.

  • Fin

    Here is the best scouting report I could find on Soler and by no means is he a replacement for Swish. He sounds more like the replacment for the replacment of Swish. I found other scouting reports that said basically the same thing but in no where near as much detail. http://baseballprospectnation......-soler-of/