Game 78: Old Timers’ Day
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I’ve always felt that Old Timers’ Day is one of those events you have to attend in person to really appreciate. Watching on television is fun and all, but you can’t really appreciate the gravity of the situation. I was at the 2007 event, which was Paul O’Neill’s first year back. The chants for him were just unbelievably loud, and then you had Don Mattingly and his chants. Then Reggie Jackson. Then Whitey Ford and Yogi Berra. It was amazing and having watched on television the last four years just isn’t the same. It’s fun, don’t get me wrong, but it’s much more enjoyable in person.
Anyway, this year’s crop of newcomers is headlined by retired and long-time trainer Gene Monahan, as well as Sterling Hitchock, Matt Nokes, and Tanyon Sturtze. Jorge Posada will not be there this year, but he won’t stay away forever. Most guys take a few years off before coming back. The full roster of Old Timers can be found right here.
The Old Timers’ Day festivities start at 11am ET and can be seen on YES. The series finale against the White Sox will follow at 2:05pm ET, and you can watch that on YES locally and TBS nationally. I’ll add the lineup once it’s posted. Enjoy.
Update: Here’s today’s lineup…
SS Derek Jeter
CF Curtis Granderson
1B Mark Teixeira
2B Robinson Cano
RF Nick Swisher
DH Raul Ibanez
3B Eric Chavez
C Russell Martin
LF Dewayne Wise
RHP Phil Hughes
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Wise is starting to earn the substitute left fielder spot while Gardner is out.
arod playing in the old timers game today?
arod needs the day off after knocking the ball all around the infield for the last few games?
the topic never discussed on Yes, how awful Arod has been. 35 rbi’s….
Keeping it fresh with the A-Rod criticism, eh?
move Arod down in the order and let’s admit he is horrible and I will let it rest. when his feelings are irrelevant to the team I am fine..
ike davis is more productive then Arod…..ouch….
Using RBIs to evaluate a player? This board will have a field day with you.
No one is going to admit that he is horrible because RBI is a dumb fucking stat and he’s still in the top ten at his position and you are an idiot troll.
“ike davis is more productive then Arod…..ouch….”
Only if you look at stats he can’t control, like RBIs.
http://www.baseball-reference......al01.shtml
.793 OPS 111 OPS+ 1.3 WAR
http://www.baseball-reference......ik02.shtml
.669 OPS 85 OPS+ -0.9 WAR
If you want to compare how Alex fares at his position (3B) as opposed to Ike (1B) he looks even better.
http://www.fangraphs.com/leade.....;players=0
Ike is 23rd out of 25 qualifying 1B
http://www.fangraphs.com/leade.....;players=0
A-Rod is 12th among 3B
Eh, don’t bother wasting your time trying to use rational thought or more complete statistical analysis to try to argue with Stuart.
That thought did cross my mind. Call me St Jude.
Agreed. If you’re going to knock Alex there are better stats than RBI.
His slash line in 2012 is lower than that of 2011. Unlike last year, Alex can’t play the injury card in 2012.
His 21.8 K% is the worst he’s had in a full season.
His seasonal ISO has been in steadily dropping since 2007.
2007: .331
2008: .271
2009: .245
2010: .236
2011: .185
2012: .172
Alex hasn’t had an ISO under .200 since 1997 (.196).
You know RAB doesn’t control the line up, right?
I agree with Stu
Well, it’s your right to be an idiot.
Refute the facts I posted above.
Then see who’s the idiot.
I’m only happy when it rains
I’m only happy when it’s complicated
And though I know you can’t appreciate it
I’m only happy when it rains
You know I love it when the news is bad
Why it feels so good to feel so sad?
I’m only happy when it rains
I’m a huge Jeter fan and have never warmed to A-Rod, but even I have to admit, as these two guys move through their final acts, we remain the same in the way we treat them as we ever were. Even now, this year, most people think Jeter is having a decent year for a 38 year old and he’s adored. Arod we say is terrible. Look at their numbers. A-rod has higher on base and has 6 more home runs than Jeter.
Ironically, Jeter is actually a better defensive player than A-Rod now, but overall a-rod is still having a better year.
LOL!!!
Does anyone else have a choppy/broken feed? I’m watching on DirecTV and it seems to cut out for a microsecond. Annoying as hell.
Working fine here.
Also, not the DTV signal, YES is the only channel this is happening on, and didn’t start until the broadcast began from the stadium. Weird.
Strawwwwwwwwww
SEND HIM DOWN! lolz
Testing the emergency broadcast system in the middle of OTD. smdh
Sure that’s what it was? Might have been Whitey Ford’s heart monitor…
(Whaddaya mean, “Too soon!” Nothing’s happened yet!)
I have the day off because I am having an orgy with all of stuart a’s female ralatives. In a pile of hundred dollar bills while he sits on his computer all alone.
Idk if 880 is broadcasting Old Timers day but if it is BOO!!! on MLB.TV for not carrying it. All well, continuing South Park-athon until game time.
Is Girardi actually gonna play in the game?
I hope Tino jacks another one this year.
Looks like Bernie has finally accepted he’s retired. Looks a little more soft around the middle this year!
Why is Torre there? Isn’t he still butt hurt that they got rid of him for fucking up so much?
He was there last year. Dumbass
I didn’t watch last year. Still, he’s a piece of shit and shouldn’t be there.
Yeah fuck Torre.
No respect for the elders. My goodness
Fuck Torre for winning four WS and being manager during the best era of Yankee baseball in 20 years.
Brian knows better. RISPFTW should just decide which other team has earned his fandom today and go comment on their site.
Sheesh, man.
Considering how much shit you like to talk about the players on the team, I figured you would have loved Torre after his book.
Wow, he was a great manager for a bunch of years for us…the ending wasn’t great, but at least appreciate what he did while he was here.
I really wish MLB.tv would broadcast this
If it’s fan-unfriendly, MLB and MLB.tv will be on top of it.
I love how Swisher loves this shit!
The guys from the 70′s teams are really getting old. I think I saw liver spots on Bucky Dent’s face.
You’re right. I remember Ralph Terry on the ’78 team.
The 78 Old Timer’s Day team.
No, no. He pitched in hte clinching World Series game. Bob Turley came in to close it out!
Little known fact. Nik Turley is Bob Turley’s grandson. Look it up.
Cerone and Nettles will make you feel old quick.
So who gets announced last, Yogi or Torre?
/stirringthepot
Torre was already announced, so probably Yogi
Bah! Missed it.
Yogi always should go last.
Heh, Rickey’s on the golf cart.
Life without roids can be a real bitch.
He better steal if he gets on base in the game.
Steroids really screw up the legs. Good thing they’re keeping guys like him out of the HOF.
…..wait a minute….
Players in the HOF who I think might have tried steroids:
Rickey, Nolan Ryan and Carlton Fisk.
I don’t mean this as a knock as they should be in the HOF, any player in the game in the late 80s and into the 90s probably at least experimented. I add Fisk in because like David Ortiz, Ryan Braun and others, anyone who complains too much and pretends their above it all are probably hiding something.
*they’re*
I don’t think Ryan did steroids, I think he’s a Verlander-type product of ridiculously good mechanics. I remember hearing Fisk tell stories about his Dad being in his 80′s and still running working farm (or something) so I’ll chalk him up to genetics.
But Ricky? He did play on that late 80s A’s team, you know.
I’m not saying for sure, just saying I wouldn’t be surprised. I’m not trying to take anything away from Ryan’s freakish talent. Although pitchers overall throw harder today than at any point, I do think Ryan is the hardest throwing pitcher to ever play the game. That however doesn’t mean he didn’t experiment toward the end. I wouldn’t put it past anyone.
My guess is there are a number of players in the HOF right now who at least tried steroids. Its use exploded in the 90s, but was around in the 80s.
I guess HOFers get a golf-cart entrance.
Gossage and Reggie. And then probably Ford and Yogi
REGGIE-REGGIE-REGGIE!
BAR-BAR-BAR!
I think I was one of the few people who liked those things. How could you go wrong with chewy carmel and nuts, covered in chocolate?
They were pretty good. At least, the ones I ate that were thrown into RF were.
Reggie saying screw the intro. I’ll just walk out. Of course, that simply means more camera time for him. People never change.
Reggie was the first two true outcome hitter. He either struck out or hit ginourmous, uber-clutch HRs.
I actually think Reggie was a bit of an underrated hitter, which may sound crazy. He played in a BA surpressed time, and back then people used to freak out about hitters striking out.
The two guys with the best timing in the history of the franchise. Yogi and Whitey.
A couple years ago, I was at the Yanks-Dodgers in LA, and during warm-ups before the game, the only Yanks who signed autographs for little kids were Swisher and Reggie.
That’s surprising, because they’re both known to shy away from attention.
They seemed to really enjoy the little kids, who were screaming SWISH! and REGGIE! They also shouted to A-Rod, who completely ignored them.
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!
The widows always get me (gulp)
I’ll never forget being a little kid away at summer camp hearing that Munson had died.
Yeah, we’re about the same age. I heard about it on the news and read the paper the next day.
I actually remember the telecast after his death. Strange what your earliest memories are sometimes.
I remember a random Eric Solderholm at-bat (circa 1980), probably only because I could actually read his name by that point.
OK, now that the ceremonies are over we can talk some baseball.
How good has Austin Jackson been this year? Huge breakout season, and nobody seems to be talking about it. He’s been every bit as good as Grandy if not better.
Dude, we need to talk the Old Timers’ Game!! GO BOMBERS!!!!!!!
.406 BABip, I don’t think that’s sustainable…
He’s always been a high BABIP guy, was .396 in 2010. You have to look at that in context of his career mark (.375) and improved walk rate.
Ugh, bad sentence there. “and consider his improved walk rate” in relation to his overall numbers improving.
There is no rule that says every person’s BABIP must be around .300. Austin Jackson has a career BABIP of .375 in 1400 plate appearances. It might be his true talent level.
That three way trade has been one that everyone won a bit of.
This.
IPK has regressed a bit, and A-Jax is taking off. Grandy has been terrific for the Yanks pretty much throughout. I still like the Yankee end, but everyone got value.
Meh.
That three way trade has been one that everyone won a bit of.
Still this.
He had roughly a .400 BABIP his rookie year in 2010 and a collapse was predicted. The collapse happened in 2011. He’s played in roughly 50 games this year. He’ll come back to earth, which doesn’t mean he’s not a good player. He’s just not what he’s showing.
What people really are saying is the Yankees should have been able to acquire a 40-HR hitting OFer without giving up good young talent. They should get the player and give up lesser talent.
Yeah I miss him.
http://www.baseball-reference......cu01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference......au01.shtml
Still strikes out too much, but so does Grandy. WAY more productive overall.
BTW-for those of you wondering, A-Jax becomes a FA after the 2015 season, assuming he doesn’t sign an extension.
Great. So we can have Grandy for his most productive seasons and then sign AJAX back. If he’s good, that is.
I think there’s a year missing
2 years, Curtis has an option for 2013, and that’s it.
2 years?
beat me to it
There is. We’ll have Mark Teixeira play center that year to cover.
(pssst! He’s on the DL with an elbow injury.)
Cone and Hitchcock, good enough.
Absolutely my favorite time of the season. Third, really, to “first pitch of Opening Day” and “Final out when the Yankees win the WS.”
This is in the top three of why being a Yankee fan is different than being a fan of any team in professional sports. This organization shows you such respect just for putting on their uniform, whether you’re in the GCL or retired.
Yeah, I love this, too!
And I’ll probably watch the replay tonight to get all the intros in.
No meatballs to Tino this year, Cone.
It’s O’Neill’s turn this year!
Love the live mic on O’Neill. Can you imagine one of those on Swisher for an entire game?
Mazilli has some pop on his throw to first!
C’mon, Darryl! Hustle!
Who said Pat Kelly sucked last night?
Go Pat Kelly.
The defense is betraying an otherwise fine performance by Gator today.
Gator’s not trying. He should just take a full wind up and mix in some sliders. My guess is he strikes out almost everyone who steps up.
Gator > Cory Wade
Kidding……or am I?
hahahahahahah sad
GATOR IS STARTING PITCHA
I’m pretty sure the idea is to encourage some hitting, and not have it be a pitchers’ duel.
Oh, yeah. No doubt. Old Timer’s Day is about the hitters. The pitchers are supposed to just lay it up like batting practice.
You noticed they brought in Gator to face Tino.
You will earn your way on this year, Tino.
I really wanna see O’Neill go yard!
NHL free agency has been slow so far.
Bucky should be allowed to forego the uniform for a “Buck Foston” shirt.
LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!
This guy is edgy!
Die.
I wonder who these umps are?
I was wondering the same thing.
It’s not the MLB umps who are doing the real game, is it?
My favorite Bucky Dent factoid. He DIDN’T hit the game winning HR in the ‘Bucky Dent’ game. Reggie did.
Cone looks pissed he just allowed Dent’s hit!
Bucky Dent played that at bat nicely. Worked the count really really well
Once a singles hitter, always a singles hitter.
WHERE’S MIKE ‘LEGGO MY EGGO’ GALLEGO WHEN YOU NEED HIM?
He’s the current 3rd base coach for the A’s.
I hope one day the Tigers come in during OTD so we can see Prince and Cecil together.
That will be the awkward special.
Wait…..who’s catching?
Homer somebody?
Bush? That’s……..reaching. Butch Wynegar have a birthday party to attend or something?
Joe and Tanyon together again.
Are these the MLB umps that are gonna do the real game?
Lame AB.
Somebody get the water cooler
yep rbi’s mean shit but arod has less rbi’s then about 80 hitters in the AL alone.
arod’s productivity is horrible… comparing him to a pool of terrible 3b, means nothing.
arod is terrible, your eyes do not lie….
I’m only happy when it rains
You want to hear about my new obsession
I’m riding high upon a deep depression
I’m only happy when it rains…pour some misery down on me
I’m only happy when it rains….pour some misery down on me
Just got done with your cousin now I’m moving onto your niece.
Your argument is insane. You concede that your argument is dumb, and then go ahead and argue it.
Don’t you have a book you’re dying to finish ?
This just in: HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES!
MLB baseball uniforms are very unforgiving for former players out of shape.
Some of these guys probably want to pull a Soriano right now.
Let’s go BOMBERS!
Jeter, Cano and Grandy All-Star starters.
The Melkman is an All-Star starter.
Where is NETTLES?? He never misses these things. I know he stopped going to spring training a couple of years ago…wonder what’s up.
That’s a good question. I’m pretty sure I remember him being at OTD last year.
Yeah….he was. He’s always there. I did hear at one point that he’s miffed that his number 9 is retired for Maris only and not him.
Nettles’ career is funny. Playing in a non-offense era, the guy had just about 400 home runs and was one of the very best third basemen ever and yet got no serious HOF consideration and seems to be largely forgotten by the Yankees.
There are only about twelve 3B’men in the Hall, and Nettles is better than some of them.
It *is* Homer Bush!
Sterling Hitchcock. An important man in Yankee dynasty history.
Traded for Tino, so yeah.
Remember the “Big 3″ of the mid 90s? Hitchcock, Wade and Sam Militello. Good times.
Kamienicky
Hahahahah. Sturtz in the outfield.
Mickey Rivers still swings and hits like Mickey Rivers.
Does he still throw like Mickey Rivers?
I’m sure his arm is no worse, because it was horrible back then. Damon-esque.
I just remember reading Bill James talking about his “chicken-wing flapping” motion.
He meant that in the “Buffalo” sense. His arm was very spicy.
Oh, yeah. Mickey had very unique mannerisms walking up to the plate, swinging the bat, and throwing the ball. Made him very popular with kids. He almost seemed like a cartoon character. I can only imagine him in today’s game. I would never turn off the postgame interview because he’d be a show unto himself.
There wasn’t a kid on my block that didn’t try to spin the bat the way the Mick did after he swung. Myself included, though I wasn’t very good at it. Bat would go flying and usually hit me in the back of the head. Explains a lot, I know.
Does he still walk like Mickey Rivers?
Mick was such a character. He would walk up to the plate like an old man with bad knees. Then the minute he hit the ball he was fast as lightning. Then once he crossed home plate he walked like an old man again.
Self-preservation?
It is kind of interesting. When Mickey walks up to the plate now that he’s in his mid-60s, you can’t be sure if he’s just moving slowly because he’s older, or if he’s just being Mickey. Looking at him run on that single, it appears he was just being Mickey.
I’d like to see Hitchcock brush somebody back. Rivers was totally crowding the plate.
Good job by Rivers to score on the single!
Strasburg to the ASG!
Kind of a scary thing yesterday for him, though.
What happened?
He had to come out of the game early due to dehydration.
They said he was dizzy and disoriented and his speech was slurred. That’s not good. Lucky the trainers are smart.
That’s tricky on a hot day. If you don’t drink enough fluids in advance, you can’t catch up by drinking during the game while exerting yourself the way an athlete does. He would need an IV to get back on the field.
If the trainers were smart, they’d have been keeping track of his fluid intake and not allowed him to get dehydrated.
You can lead a pitcher to water . . . .
Ha!
I don’t think he started that way, with the symptoms I described. I believe that as soon as they caught it, they benched him.
What happened yesterday?
Hitchcock with the anti-Yankee beard
They should fine him.
Strawberry, HUSTLE! Sheesh.
No Bryce Harper for the ASG.
Let’s see if he’s on the final man vote.
Harper has been in a slide, starting when we went there. He’s hitting .274/.347/.475
I’m of the opinion that the sooner you start promoting the shit out of these guys, the better for the game.
At least McCutchen is there, he’s someone who definitely needs to be promoted.
I totally agree. Can you imagine the NFL or the NBA being as stuck in their pasts as baseball is? Chipper Jones is going but not Harper? Why? The All Star Game is purely a tv show at this point. If MLB is trying to appeal to younger fans, why showcase a 40 year old who can’t play any more and who is leaving anyway? Why not establish memories now of Harper?
Baseball just seems insistent on constantly focusing on the past. And yet it wonders why the ages of its fans skews older every year.
And I mean no disrespect to Chipper Jones, who has had a tremendous career and should go to Cooperstown. He definitely deserves a tip of the cap and a mention. But put the focus on the stars of tomorrow.
I think it was on Michael Kay’s show last year, they were talking about how Old Timer’s games for about 9 or 10 years were taken somewhat seriously. They’d have the Yanks vs the Dodgers or Yanks vs. Sox or Giants or whatever and there was actually some legit competition going on to some degree. Guys played in their 40′s, but then were phased out by the time they were 50 or something.
They actually played 9 innings a few times I think is what they said. I have to say, the modern day OTD game is something I look forward to, but am bored pretty quickly. Like a strip joint.
GO BOMBERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now there’s a visual. An Old Timer’s strip joint.
I can just see Reggie in a garter belt.
i saw Reggie in a strip joint in Toronto in the mid-late 90′s. LOL.
He really just reeks of jerkiness, gotta say.
The Clippers scores look lopsided. Definitely excellent playing.
DP. Fuuuuuuck.
CLIPPERS SUCK! GO BOMBERS! WAIT ‘TIL NEXT YEAR!
lolz
CC was picked, but is already announced as not playing.
OK. Time for real Yankees baseball.
Here’s hoping the good Hughes shows up.
Washington is such a fucking asshole. 3 of 5 managers picks being his own guys.
Don’t they all do that?
Torre did the same things years back. I don’t blame the managers. The game is meaningless and he’s rewarding his guys.
Its his privilege.
And in this case, Andrus, Kinsler, and Harrison have legitimate cases.
If he chose Nelson Cruz or Craig Gentry, it would be another story.
Kinsler was a player’s selection. Joe Nathan must have been a manager’s pick.
Well he deserves it too.
Can’t believe he picked CJ Wilson again. lol.
“CJ Wilson is the only pitcher in baseball history to lose a game in the ALDS, ALCS, World Series & lose the All Star game all in one season.”
Wilson, they said, is an injury replacement for Sabathia.
Shoulda picked Kuroda. He’s been better than CC this year.
Washington probably just picked CC so he could “replace” him with Wilson.
Check the names, and you’ll know his coke suppliers.
By the way: Final vote candidates:
AL: Darvish, Broxton, Ernesto Frieri, Hammel and Peavy
NL: Bourn, Freese, Harper, Hill, and Chipper Jones
I think Darvish wins in a landslide for the AL. NL is a toss up between Harper and Chipper.
Did Trout get picked for the team? Harper?
The All-Star game is a marketing showcase.
Just noticed that Harper was a final choice candidate. Be interesting to see if Chipper wins on his final go-through.
Chipper Jones, just for sentiments sake.
Probably Hammell from the AL.
By the way: Final vote candidates:
AL: Darvish, Broxton, Ernesto Frieri, Hammel and Peavy
NL: Bourn, Freese, Harper, Hill, and Chipper Jones
Damn
Bummer I couldn’t watch. Damn MLB.TV.
I see stuart a is back again. He learned to use the reply button though, so that’s progress.
I think the final man votes both suck, frankly.
Why is Kimmy Gibbler in the booth with Kay?
Shady porch + watermelon + french pressed coffee + NY TImes + baseball (iPad!) + Old Timers Day (Swisher!) = joy, pure joy.
Didn’t realize Floyd was having such a down year.
The only OT game I’ll pay any attention to is the one where Jim Bouton is playing in.
Get rid of Hughes!!!
Oh, geez.
Cole Hamels come on down
Nice play to save a run!
Wow! Great stab by Jeter!
This White Sox team can really hit.
JEET!
Well, at least Hughes lets it be known whether he’ll be good or bad right from the start.
Seems like every shitty start of his starts from the top with a few first inning runs.
Phil “right down the middle” Hughes is back!
Phil Hughes is able to trick us into thinking he’s turned the page and is a good pitcher by having a couple of good starts but we all can see past the numbers. He still sucks.
Look out for Thorny – master of psychology!
Great reference.
Nasty curve by Hughes. Hopefully he’ll settle down and throw some zeros up for a few innings.
I agree with that hope.
And if not, maybe Guidry can be signed to a one-day contract?
Now that was a pitcher. He was special.
Me too. I’m not willing to call it a bad start after the first inning, unless he gave up like 5 runs. Which he didn’t.
Lets get some runs guys!
Lucky day for Robbie.
Just found out it’s June 31st.
Eh, maybe not.
C’mon, Robinson! Jack one! (Or a single would be good.)
Robinson’s complete sucktitude with bases loaded continues.
Maximum bad outcome, other than a triple play.
That sure sucks the big one.
Cano and pressure do not mix.
Bit of an exaggeration, don’t you think ?
God these guys are horrible with RISP.
It’s like a horror movie where you know whats going to happen.
ugh
unbelievable…. what a friggin joke.
Better hope that failure doesn’t bite this team in the ass today.
There must’ve been like 20 games this year that we lost where we had multiple runners on base with less than 2 outs and couldn’t get it done.
Way to pick up your pitcher, guys.
Yup. This team still sucks with hitting with bases loaded and RISP. Pathetic at-bats by Cano and Swish.
I’m done with this game! Pathetic ass Yankees!
Are you kidding?
2-0 in the top if the 2nd and you’ve already given up?
Most people curl up into the fetal position as soon as the other team gets a base runner. A large portion of Yankees fans have morphed into pre-2004 Red Sox fans for no apparent reason.
The board is especially doom and gloom today for no apparent reason.
It’s always doom and gloom when they’re losing. Never ceases to amaze me though.
It wasn’t like that back 2 years-ago. I blame TJSC.
Yes, a 2-0 game in the top of the second inning is over. Enjoy your afternoon mowing the lawn or polishing your figurine collection.
Dumbass.
That was just awful. Hughes needs to put the clamp down and hold them to 2. Then at least we have a chance at a single and a HR to tie.
Wow. Thought they’d got past the bases-loaded flameouts like that. And they didn’t even make Floyd throw alot of pitches. That inning was a throwback to four weeks ago.
Cano can’t even hustle to first base to try to beat the throw.
All right, Hughes. Man up, now!
swisher cannot spell of speed. he is a total dope.
cano with the bases loaded, nothing to say the #’s do not lie.
they got zilch, but sabermetrician fools pontificate on BA with RISP or rbi’s are irrelevant because of some innocuous bull crap…
cano is a friggin moron.
Actually, I think the moron is you.
“swisher cannot spell of speed.”
apparently, neither can you
I can’t wait ’till next year when Swisher’s chessy ass is no longer on the team!
So far, I enjoyed the Old Timers’s Game more.
Bases loaded, nobody out, best hitter on the team up, and no runs scored. Cano has killed the Yankees in these spots all year long.
All that, and Floyd only tossed 17 pitches.
It’s early, but time to to break out the gin!
“It’s early, but time to to break out the gin!”
Can’t argue with gin!
I can. Gin is gross. Rum FTW!
Good gin is amazing.
Maybe it’s an age thing. I don’t know many 20-something year olds that drink gin.
Maybe when I’m an old man it will grow on me
I’m a rum and tequila guy.
After your taste buds are shot from rum and tequila, then you can have gin.
If you’re goal is to enter an altered state, gin is the king of all alchols. Lots of great gin-based drinks.
For the record, I’m not drinking gin.
I mean I don’t mind it if it’s mixed. But I’d really just prefer a simple rum and coke.
WHISKEY.
Did anyone else notice that the 1st run never stepped on home plate?
Sure did.
Trouble is that the umpire signaled safe.
Yes, and the booth did.
Oh, ok. I don’t have the sound up on my tv. I was just surprised there weren’t comments about it on here.
Well apparently the game is over.
I love you Bernie.
Bernie is awesome. I love when there is a rain delay and they show him and his jazz band.
He’s my favorite player of all time. Dude was my idol growing up. I used to love those commercials where Bernie would play guitar and O’Neil was on the drums.
Bases loaded….. time to turn up the aggressiveness!
Tex actually showed some patience, didn’t chase, and got the walk.
Cano didn’t see a fastball (nor would he).
Swisher saw one fastball (up and outside by 2 feet) and swung at ball 3 and ball 4 on 2-1 and 2-2.
Part of the RISP is a lack of patience (which they show with noonone on or a guy on 1st) and pitchers are capitalizing on it. Throw stuff offspeed and off the plate to induce weak contact and with men on most Yankee hitters chase.
It is the high risk of a home run happy team. Those situations remove the logic of a base hit. Unfortunately, it is a situation that could really bite them in the ass in the playoffs.
I hate that narrative.
And it is a narrative that is ruled out by available statistical evidence.
Actually, the available statistical evidence shows teams that hit HRs do better in the postseason.
The problem isn’t that they hit HRs (btw, where did this stupid idea come from?), but that they’re having a bad year with RISP.
Power is a good thing during the regular season and the postseason.
Can a MLB player collect his MLB pension if he doesn’t officially retire?
I think Bernie made enough money.
At least I would hope so.
He made a lot of money, but for a guy like Bernie and his service, his yearly MLB pension might eclipse a 200K. (It was over 100K years ago, if I remember correctly). He could have made all the money he wanted, I don’t think anyone would just give that up. Hell, he could give it to a family member if he wanted. Leads me to believe he can collect it without officially retiring.
You’d have to think no, right?
I think no — but there’s some other advantage to him not officially retiring that escapes me at the moment.
Phil Hughes is frustrating as hell. Even within this start so far I see both the 2010 beast Phil Hughes and the crappy 2011 Phil Hughes. Consistency Phil!
Better!!
Most of the old timers really porked up.
Dunno how old you are, but it is really hard to stay slender once you hit your mid-40s. This is especially the case for former athletes who are used to eating like athletes. (Says the mid-40s former athlete who could stand to lose about 25 pounds.)
It’s the gin!
I’m sorry, did you say late 20′s? I’m a declining athlete who could shed about 15…. yuck.
And then there’s Paul O’Neill.
so I’m a little late to the party…what did I miss?
After one inning in July, the Yankees are back to being the overpaid chokers.
Hooray!! good to know. I guess we should just call it a season then.
Some people on here probably would.
Fortunately I was making lunch and missed that part of the thread. I did make it back in time to watch the frustrating Yankee half of the inning.
I’m really hoping they trade for/sign Hamels so we won’t have see anymore of Hughes. He has his moments but more often than not he’s a disappointment and the weak link in the rotation.
2013:
CC
Hamels
Pineda
Nova
Banuelos/Kuroda
Pettitte will be back in 2013. He’s getting one of those rotation spots.
I would not count on seeing Pineda until at least mid year. The Yankees will have to build their rotation expecting Pineda to not make it back. He also has options, which they might as well use until they think he can help.
Resident old timer Raul will go yard
Close
Did you see Jeter’s interview before? Marakovits asked him which Old Timer still had the most game and he said Ibanez.
Hahaha that’s hilarious!
OLD MEN producing!!
It was funny, especially considering his age.
Rios has a gun out there. That’s probably the worst part of Swishers game. He has a left fielders arm.
Ibanez stole a base? Sure, why not.
What does that say on Goose’s cap?
WTF?! Is this bizzaro world? Ibanez stole a base, on a high pitch too?
How was Ted, by the way?
Raul Ibanez just stole a base. uh what.
ZOMBIECHEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chavy! Joe is looking like a genius with these recent off days and putting in Chavez, Wise, Nix.
Ha, no way! CHAVEZ!
Ya Chavez.
Now all the doom and gloom trolls can go back to their caves at least for a few innings.
Chavez!!
…wait, I thought the RAB trolls told me the game was over?
The one inning game is over and the Yankees lost it.
However, the 9 inning game isn’t over and that’s the one that counts.
Dammit. You beat me to my meme observation.
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
Haha Super Troopers reference and a Star Wars IV reference in the same thread? Love it.
Notice how I left out the “I feel something terrible has happened” concluding line.
Yes. Each inning is a troll-game. We play at least 9 games per day. Didn’t you know that?
New Ballgame.
Well that is good. Apparently the first game of this double header was over, Yankees losing 2-0 and Hughes taking the loss.
But in this second game, Yankees are tied 2-2. Amazingly , Hughes has so much left in the tank from the first game he is now pitching the second game. THAT is team work.
Weren’t you just blowing the “Yankees hit too many homers ” trumpet a minute ago?
Actually, what I said was that they are homer happy which works against them with bases loaded. Never said they hit too many homers, just that the home run approach works against them in those situations.
If you look at Cano and Swishers AB’s, the first swing of Cano’s was a home run swing. He got screwed on the second pitch, a bit and then had to take a defensive approach which worked against him. Same with Swisher. Took the first, which was the most hittable in that AB, for a strike. Then, on the last pitch, he didn’t pick up the rotation and swung at a what he thought was a fastball and went right over the top of it, missing by three inches. That swing was a home run swing that about pulled him out of the batters box.
But I get the need to show your peacock feathers. it is the superiority complex of the board.
No, it’s just your reputation for trolling.
This.
I actually agree with this assessment. The team as a whole does seem like they press with bases loaded.
Regardless of what happens today, Hughes has had 2 bad starts over the past 2 months. He’s been great as a 4/5 starter.
LOL of course Peavey doesn’t like the ball park.
The White Sox get to hit there, too.
That Chavez sucks at baseball. Hey wait, I thought he was on the DL most of the time. How can he be playing?
He must be a mirage
mirage = “It doesn’t fit my model — so it can’t be real.”
Brett .943 OPS vs Gossage in 44 PA’s
Someone should tell Jake Peavy that this isnt Petco and left handed hitters have had that same approach in Yankee Stadium since eons.
That, and people that bitch about the short porch seem to forget that their team has the same advantages. Kuroda is a righty, and the White Sox have lefty power hitters too.
Not to mention that none of the HRs were wall scrapers. They all went into 2nd deck.
What did he say?
Something along the lines of bitching that aside from Cano, every Yankee hitter just sits on a pitch to hit home runs because of how the park plays.
And the opposing players are somehow prevented from doing that?
Stupidest meme ever. I remember last year in the playoffs the Tigers hit several wall scraper homers and Jeter hit that ball to right in Game 5 that was caught like right in front of the wall.
That’s the point. He’s being a baby. Not to mention his own lineup has the same advantage.
You’d think a smart veteran like Peavey who “knows” this would be able to easily exploit an approach like this
He did pitch very well yesterday minus 3 pitches. That’s why I don’t buy the “too many homers” bull shit. Good pitchers, like Peavey for example, only make 4 or 5 mistakes throughout the course of 120 pitches, you have to be able to take full advantage of those pitches.
He struck out 11 Yanks. They just beat him on a couple pitches. He should really just man up and admit that.
I hate how people bitch about our short porch for lefties, meanwhile over 60% of the league is right handed and the Monster in Fenway is roughly 300ft from home.
How was Ted? Thought you said you were going to see it.
sold out
That sucks. I’m going tomorrow afternoon.
Also, park factors don’t favor YS3 more than Chicago’s field either. I read a couple of numbers that I can’t recall of the top of my head but its pretty close. He seems like he’s being a crybaby. You gave up a HR to Dewayne Wise, maybe you shouldn’t be complaining about the stadium.
Hahaha that last sentence is a very good point. Wise’s homer was in the second deck too.
Also, I didn’t remember much complaining when Pierzynski hit a couple of cheapie HRs on Friday night.
My favorite park about NYS is how they move the walls back when the other team bats. Sneaky.
I’m also amazed that the advanced scouts of the Yankees have their hitters hitting lefty. What an ingenious idea.
lmaoo
Guess he has no interest in Yankee money this offseason, not that I expect the Yankees to even make an offer.
A few games back when the Yankees were at 112 HRs, they had 58 and hoome and 54 on the road.
Need a zero from Phil here.
nice curve to K Dunn
I know people complain about the too many home runs thing, but, damn I love it. I love the fact that 1-9 (usually), these guys can create a rally from nothing. It makes games where they’re down 4 or 5 seem closer than that.
Yup. RISPFAIL my ass, there is always a runner in scoring position with this lineup.
Shut down inning Hughes.
BEAR DOWN, HUGHES!
Rios has really turned it around this year. He’s having a great season.
Alex Rios has had the oddest career path of anyone I can remember watching play.
He’s not a bad player, but he should be so much better than he actually is. Lots of talent.
I think the massive contract from Toronto always put him in the Vernon Wells realm to me also (even though I know he’s nowhere near Wells-bad).
He also seems to punish the Yankees. Haven’t looked up his numbers, but he seems to have good games against the Yankees.
YEAH!
Hughes is walking on thin ice. He’s a two pitch pitcher and both pitches aren’t consistently great today.
If he could get that nasty curve working like his last start…
Rios and Viciedo are sitting curveball and Rios has hit two rockets on curveballs.
Exactly. He needs a third pitch in the worst way.
Good job bearing down there Phillip.
Grandy, Teix and Cano
Sounds like some runs to me.
This promo for the Charlie Sheen Centerstage is…disturbing.
He’s gonna snap one day and kill someone for sure.
If I had access to the memory modifier from Men In Black, but on a global scale, I’d use it to wipe Charlie Sheen from global memory.
I like him sometimes but the whole “winning” stuff was overkill. I could never forget “Wild Thing”.
Haha I wouldn’t actually. Because of this:
Floyd’s thrown his cutter 30% of pitches this year, and even more this game it seems. I think the Yankees will adjust throughout the game.
Cano going deep here
Good call!
Called!
Weird. It said O’Neill had over 3,000, but then when I click on his name it says he has under 600.
Twitter takes a while to load that type of stuff. It says around 7,000 when I check now.
It might be behind in that I don’t even have a Twitter account, but checking through a straight Google search.
I may join just to get O’Neill past Kay by the end of the game.
So say we all.
Kay probably talking out of his ass again.
LAZY CANO!!!!!!!
Tom says:
July 1, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Cano going deep here
good call sir.
Man on 1st…. totally different approach (I was going to say double or HR).
He had no intention of swinging at the first 2 pitches and with a guy on 1st a pitcher is more willing to attack.
Cano is going to hit 40 this year.
Holy shit Robbie
HAHAHAHAHA!!
I’m not mocking Paul and Mike, but their timing about “maybe Cano just doesn’t pick [Floyd] up well…BOOM…” is just hilarious.
Yikes……That was crush….That was a total fustration homer by Cano
haha! what a great moment to walk into the game! robbie is gonna be a fan of july as well!
Is Granderson eating an ice pop?
Looks like it. Smart for the training staff to give them stuff like that to try and take in some fluids, as it is much more palatable than drinking water or sports drinks.
In addition, they’re delicious.
Giving them cancer-causing and diabetes-causing sugar is a good thing?
/troll’d
I think Cano has become Rod Carew with power. Holy shit does he have just a beautiful swing!
My lord Robbie, you are on some kind of roll. Beautiful.
Seriously!!! Talk about locked in.
I doubt I’ll get a lot of argument, but I do believe he has the most beautiful swing I’ve ever seen. Perhaps in-their-prime Griffey Jr. and A-Rod too, but right now? Cano all the way.
Notice the “I’ve ever seen” part. I’m still only 23, so I don’t have a ton of experience to draw on.
Yeah, I’m 20 so I barely got to see prime KGJ but I would put Robbie up with KGJ and A-Rod in their primes in terms of most beautiful swings.
In that regard, is Hunter Pence the Anti-Cano? Man is his swing ugly.
i remember an article from last year (i think) trying to find baseball’s version of tim tebow (success with no rational explanation why). hunter pence was at the top of the list
i have and probably always will love a-rod’s swing the most. robbie does have a beautiful swing though, and i’m a fan of hamilton’s swing too. but only his swing.
Hamilton’s is awesome too. Maybe add in-his-prime Andruw Jones as well.
It’s just the heat. Cano’s ball would be only a line drive single over 2nd base otherwise.
TommyBoy says:
July 1, 2012 at 2:28 pm
I’m done with this game! Pathetic ass Yankees!
I hope TommyBoy is enjoying polishing his figurines this afternoon instead of watching the game that was over.
Lol I love the trolls. I act like I hate them but winning is so much more enjoyable because of them.
Srsly. I wonder if they really are that emotionally unhinged at a 2-0 deficit after the first inning, or if it’s an act. Either way, it is pretty hilarious.
Yeah, it is rather funny when they Yankees win (or in this case, so far, take the lead) despite proclamations of doom.
At least he left quietly. It’s the ones who continue to spew their negativity that are really annoying
It’s always really cool to tattle on others. They way we know that YOU are one of the ‘good ones’.
I cant see Cano hitting 40 homers, but I do think he get around 35-36…
61 pitches through 2.2 innings in this heat can’t be fun
Here’s what Buster Olney had to say about O’Neill joining Twitter.
Paul O’Neill joined twitter, @PaulONeillYES Over/under on how many times he throws his keyboard in frustration after 140 characters is 21.
Taking the Over. No question.
Where’s Erica? She’ll flip out!
Haha that’s awesome.
Olney is awesome.
One of the few good remaining baseball guys on ESPN, and I hope he moves over to MLB Network at some point.
Wht the hell are the Brewers and Diamondbacks wearing?
Mr. Riddle, I’m offended that you haven’t commented on my counter to your Charlie Sheen argument.
It sounds like Martin’s gonna be dealing with this back issue the whole year. It would be nice to see the Yankees go out and get a catcher who can handle themselves and maybe take 125 ABs the rest of the way (i.e., an upgrade over Stewart or Cervelli)
Jeter just needs to tell Stewart to be a better defender.
or just stop telling him to make bad plays like throwing the ball into CF
One of my friends says it should be the catcher sitting right next to him. I personally disagree, but that’s because I like Stewart right now over Martin.
Upgrade over Stewart? Is that even possible?
“Have you see Stewies defense? He’s a gamer. He does the little things that scrappy catchers do.”
/Girardi’d
The problem with getting another catcher is that the market is SO bare for catchers. There’s no backup-worthy ones available it seems.
Hence why Cashman picked up Stewart on the last day of ST. You don’t want to be a GM on the market for a catcher when you actually need one.
Humberto Quintero just got DFA’d and is a pretty good defender. Definitely an upgrade over Stewart.
Quintero is an upgrade over Stewart, for sure. I think its worth swinging a small trade for him.
Yeah, I vote for Quintero as well. It would be one thing is Stewart was good defensively, but he’s not.
Good to get this dude’s pitch count up, too.
indeed. 74 through 3ip. ouch
Random comment:
The Colorado Rockies “four pitcher, 75 pitch limit” rotation might be the dumbest and most noncompetitive concept I have ever seen in baseball. I mean, the Rockies aren’t a good team anyway, but I don’t understand what their reasoning is. I mean, how can you ever expect to win when you don’t give your starters a chance to do anything?
It makes no sense.
Yeah, I don’t get it either. I know the White Sox went with a 6-man rotations for awhile last year, but when was the last time a team had a 4 man rotation? Just seems like a poor excuse for not having a good 5th starter. That bullpen must hate it.
Also, completely eliminates any benefit you get from complete games as far as bullpen work goes.
Nolan Ryan is probably laughing his ass off right now.
I had this discussion with someone a few days ago…Would you rather have the Rockies pitching staff or Mariners offense?
Oh jeez. I’d go Mariners offense. At least guys like Montero and Ackley have promise. Maybe something clicks with Smoak too.
I like the thinking behind it, but poor execution. The team has been awful, so I like the manager trying something new. Just, not this. It seems destined to fail, especially when they apparently have no big lead ready pitchers at the moment. It just seems awful in practice.
Sal Maglie for trivia.
Nailed it.
And Phil’s pitch count is looking good!!
That’s great that Yankee Stadium is giving people free spring water on the concourses.
Good inning by Hughes!
Thank god the Yankees didn’t trade for Danks or Floyd.
By the way, does anyone have a link to Peavy’s anti-YS3 comments?
http://www.bostonherald.com/sp.....ion=recent
Towards the bottom
Thank you.
http://www.bostonherald.com/sp.....ion=recent
Towards the bottom
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/b.....ee-stadium
Hughes looked settled in
But I thought Hughes let us know really early when he was gonna suck!
But I thought he never battled and had no fortitude!
But I thought he was really going to give up 19% of his fly balls for home runs this year!
But I thought he was a 5th starter at best and can’t pitch in the AL East!
The first part of your last statement may be true, but with how well the rest of our rotation is going, that’s all we really need.
According to YES, Jose Bautista is on the Yankees
Sounds good to me
Nah, we need a singles hitter.
If that was the case, everyone here would suddenly say he doesn’t do PED’s.
So I’m faced with a dilemma tonight gentleman. For whatever reason Star Wars is popping up in my life everywhere right now, and I cannot explain why…Sunday nights are the only day I seem to have a lot of down time w/o being at work, or out doing things Should I A. Watch the original trilogy on Blu-Ray, or should I power house Uncharted 3?
I don’t have a PS3 (I’m an xbox guy), so I can’t speak for Uncharted. Therefore, my default vote is Star Wars.
Uncharted 2 is possibly the best video game I’ve ever played. It’s up there with The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina of Time/Majora’s Mask and Final Fantasy VII.
For me it’s a three way tie between Metal Gear Solid 2, Half Life 2, and Return to Castle Wolfenstein. But again, I never played Uncharted.
Sadly, I had an uber-strict mother and therefore never was able to get into the Metal Gear series. Final Fantasy was as realistic and as violent as it got.
Do it now. Seriously. MGS2′s graphics were way ahead of their time, so they’re still not even that bad. MGS4 got really weird, but the first three are amazing, the second being the best IMO.
Idk, the Skyrim expansion is coming out soon…that’s probably what I’m going to get into after Uncharted.
Haha fair enough. But put it on your list if you’re ever bored of what you got. Because those games are classics. I’m sure you can get them all pretty cheap now too.
Yeah, they’re probably available on the PSN as downloadable for dirt cheap.
I promise you, you won’t regret it. Those games have the most interesting and most fleshed out back story and current storyline I’ve ever played.
Besides being able to hold up guards to freeze them, shoot their right hand so they can’t fire back, shoot their radio so they can’t call for back up, and shoot a knee cap so they can’t move fast, then letting him try to run away is disturbingly satisfying.
Dude that’s almost as bad as getting a hooker to improve your health in GTA then beating her senseless to get your money back when your done…not that I ever did that.
Haha that one might be worse. The Russian mercenaries in MGS2 should have known what they were getting into when they signed up. The hooker, however, did not.
Read a book.
Some people really don’t realize how a video game can be just as beneficial as reading a book.
Some people also don’t realize that just because one plays video games doesn’t mean that one doesn’t read.
That too. I also read plenty, though they’re mostly intelligence field stuff now.
I was talking more leisure reading lol
That is leisure for me
Of course someone at RAB wrote this.
Stop trolling.
It was supposed to be a dumb joke. Video games are fine, take it easy.
I just finished Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland and Through The Looking Glass. I plan to start either The Complete Sherlock Holmes Volume I, or The Picture of Dorian Grey tomorrow, I can’t decide which yet though.
Picture of Dorian Grey is a spooky book. It’s quite good. If you like that kind of older stuff, I recommend White Jacket, by Herman Melville, and pretty much anything by Joseph Conrad.
Thanks, I picked up all these older “classics” because apparently Barnes n Noble has it’s own publishing house that prints nothing but classics. I got Alice/Through The Looking Glass, The Picture Of Dorian Grey, and The Complete Sherlock Holmes Volumes I&II for just over 20 bucks.
Qualls? Really? And why would they stash someone in AAA who demonstrably sucks in the majors, as opposed to giving some kid a chance who has been decent in the minors but hasn’t come up yet?
Dude, if you want Sherlock Holmes, get the leather-bound version of The Complete Sherlock Holmes from Barnes and Noble. All 60 short stories/novels all in one book. Leather-bound and gold-gilded pages. It’s awesome.
[Also, watch BBC's "Sherlock". I went into it not knowing not to expect and now it's one of my favorite shows ever. Actually, it is my favorite show ever. Just fantastic.]
Shut up Kay.
oh my god, again with the “can’t hit HRs in the playoffs” narrative.
Seriously. Shut up Kay. Glad O’Neil is pushing back a bit.
I should link this comment in my handle. http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....nt-4359965
Add RA Dickey, Johan Santana and Jake Peavy to the list.
Yup. Why people thing it’s easier to single a good pitcher to death instead of his one mistake pitch out of the park is beyond me. They Yankees hit good pitching just fine with the current approach.
I just kind of tune them out and hear them like the teacher in Peanuts.
Wasn’t Bob Lorenz gonna be fired for his DWI?
Didn’t know he got one.
What’s worse? DWI or repeatedly beating the shit out of your wife (The ‘DiMaggio’)?
I seriously don’t know. Thoughts?
I’d say the latter, unless the DWI involved another person being harmed somehow. But it wouldn’t be just a DWI if that where the case.
Brett Myers is still around, and hardly anybody even hates him.
A-Rod, on the other hand, is somehow the most hated man in baseball.
Lorenz is drunk and he knows it.
Hughes’ next K ties him with Sparky Lyle for 43rd all-time for the Yankees.
Not even going to ask why you know that. Nope. Not gonna ask.
Simple. I’m a (bored) loser.
The O’s got Thome? Interesting.
Hughes is locked in now!
Perhaps someone should show Jake Peavy this chart. Mobile Phone Park vs. Yankees Stadium.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor
Yankees have traded for Chad Qualls.
Wasn’t he once useful? Bad news for Cory Wade?
I think he was pretty good for the Rays a few years ago. He’s been bad this year, though.
Save for a couple starts, Hughes has absolutely been a front of the rotation kind of a pitcher for the Yankees recently
Chad Qualls hahahahahahhaah
Kay, Qualls got DFA’d. I don’t think trading him says the Phillies are giving up.
God I hate our announcers. Can we just trade radio teams with The Nationals, and our TV teams for Bob Costas doing play by play with Coney as the colour guy?
no need for that, Singleton, Cone and Leiter for 162 games would be fine by me.
I’m good for that if they do the Radio broadcast as well, I mean that’ll get annoying for you TV viewers but I’d love it.
Yep, that’s my ideal booth as well.
Cosign that statement. Singleton, Cone and Leiter … if one needs a day off sub in Paul O’Neil.
That’s a great crew. The only minor nitpick I have is that Singleton overdoes the S on “swing and a miss” but that’s the only complaint I have.
Coney even talks about WHIP and BABIP and FIP. Do you even know how rare that is for an ex-player to know that shit?
Chad Qualls sucks. How is he better than anyone they already have on the roster?
How many times have we asked this question when the Yankees pick up a reliever?
In fairness, people were probably saying that about guys like Wade, Rapada, and Eppley too. Given their track record with bullpen construction, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
Very true
Yankees trade for Chad Qualls? Phillies white flag? Perhaps that means Hamels will pitch in blue pinstripes next year.
I thought Hamels to the Dodgers was a virtual lock.
I’d would think so the way they’re spending money in LA. He could get a $200 million contract from those idiots.
Not at all. Qualls was DFA’d earlier in the week. The Phils had a bullpen shakeup and he was a casualty of that. I dont think its indicative of a Hamels deal at all.
Qualls was getting brutalized in Philly. Not really sure what role he’s going to fill. Are they going to bump Eppley or Wade for him?
Could he be stashed in AAA in case things really get bad and they need him down the road?
I’d guess Wade going down for Qualls. Pretty interchangeable imo, Qualls had a high/unsustainable HR/FB rate in Philly if I remember correctly.
Yea, his HR/9 was 2.0. His BB/9 was only 2.6. He also gave up 11.2 H/9, so I can’t believe his ERA wasn’t worse.
boy is Russ bad.
Is Carlos Ruiz available?
Considering his age and that he has a relatively cheap team option for next year, he should be available*.
*This would only happen if the Phillies did go into full scale fire sale mode.
I’m sure that if by mid-July the Phils are way out of it, everyone not named Halladay and Lee (and maybe in a crazy-Amaro way even them) would be available.
Qualls = cheap depth. Makes sense esp after the Aardsma setback.
Color me surprised that CC was chosen for the pitching staff did not see that coming.
If I were to pick a Yankee pitcher it would have been Soriano.
He was probably voted by the players. David Schoenfield just wrote an article for ESPN’s SweetSpot showing how the players “must” have voted weeks ago, though he doesn’t use Sabathia as a reason for this.
If Soriano was actually a dominant reliever, sure, but he’s not. I’d go with the lefty starter, although since Washington already knows CC is not available, it was more just a tip of the cap to CC with no committment.
He’s like 13 for 14 in save opportunities…that’s pretty damn good.
17 for 18.
Oh, wow I’ve kind of taken for granted how good he’s been, and how often he’s pitched since blowing that save.
Don’t get me going on saves.
I’m happy that Soriano has held down the job, but there are a lot of other pitchers I’d put on the All-Star team ahead of Soriano, including on the Yankees. CC, D-Rob and Kuroda to name three. I’d even put Pettitte there before injury.
I thought Kuroda should have made it. He’s been money for a month and a half now.
Soriano has been fantastic though…first of all there was a discussion yesterday on whether or not there’s a difference between a closer and another type of reliever. I think there is, although it’s small. And Soriano has really been fantastic all year. Isn’t his ERA below 2?
But D-Rob would have been a good choice, and Kuroda. Pettitte? Ehhhh, maybe. But starters are always much more important anyway, so I think the relievers need to be given a fair shake too just because they have a different role on the team.
Wow, Hughes made Viciedo look silly.
Somebody forgot to tell Hughes that the game was over after the first inning.
Hughes really settled down and has pitched a good game. After a rough first inning, that’s all the more impressive.
He seems to have turned the corner in his development into a dependable starter.
Can’t argue with that.
I wonder what kind of massive haul the Phillies are asking from the Yankees for Hamels. Gotta start with two of Banuelos/Sanchez/Williams, right?
Yep, too much for a rental who has never pitched for another team.
If we give up the farm for him, I’d want to guarantee an extension beforehand.
…which would never come about from either side, imo.
Nope. Hamels seems intent on testing free agency. I’m sure he’d sign an extension if the Yankees blew him out of the water, but I really don’t like giving up the prospects (which we probably don’t even have) to gain the privilege of signing him to a ridiculous contract. I’m taking the Johan Santana situations stance on this one.
And this is why I’d rather take my chances when he’s a free agent.
I doubt the Yanks even have the pieces for it. Banuelos is hurt, and a bunch of low A ball kids won’t get you Hamels.
Nova would have to be in the deal IMO.
I wish these idiots would stop talking about O’Neill going on Twitter. Who gives a damn crap????
Ma and Pa Yank spent innings talking about ordering pizza online from an iPhone/iPad. I sat through that. Get on my level.
I do feel your pain.
That seems to be a theme of theirs. Is it sponsor related? I’m quite sure neither has ever ordered a pizza by iPhone.
You know what, though? Scooter would talk about getting cannolis for two innings and make it interesting. Those two simply have no talent.
What about the other day, when they were doing bird-calls?
“Ma and Pa Yank”
That’s good shit.
After watching him miss with those pitches, how is Floyd still in?
Gotta question Ventura or Cooper here for leaving this guy in to throw so many pitches in this heat.
Ventura must be from the Dusty Baker school of pitcher killing.
I’m no doctor/athletic trainer, but aside from dehydration concerns, wouldn’t the head help him keep loose? I always thought players were more at risk of pulling something or hurting themselves when it was cold.
It’s hard enough to just stand out in the sun for an hours or 2 in this heat. I can’t imaging how exhausting it must be to throw 120+ pitches on it.
I’m not saying it’s good, just didn’t think it would be that bad as long as he keeps hydrated. Seems like that’s the bigger hurdle.
But yeah, Floyd seemed off today, and he should have been taken out earlier for that.
I’m no doctor, but I have this whip!
Oh, and WebMD.com.
His mechanics were shot though (which will increase the chance of doing damage to the arm)…. you could tell by the way he was missing up and to the arm side (especially against Wise) that his arm was dropping and his follow through wasn’t there.
Generally speaking, the current thinking is fatigue is a greater indicator of arm injuries, less than pitch counts. Based on that, I’d be more concerned in this type of heat of a pitcher getting fatigued.
Nice hit and run there.
Were the hats that the Old Timers wore those 1912 throwbacks from earlier in the year, or were they something different?
They looked whiter to me. The 1912 ones were gray.
Note: I wish I was named Leyson Septimo.
It sounds like some kind of horrible disease.
It’s a cool name but I prefer Yeicock Calderon myself
AJ Pierzinski acting like a dick?
Now I’ve seen it all.
Weird shit between Floyd and Pierczyinski (sp?).
AJ’s a douche so that’s expected.
No matter. Spell it anyone you want since no one else really knows.
I stepped away for a bit – but Hughes made it through seven only giving up the two first-inning runs? That’s pretty great.
Yeah, since the first inning, he’s been awesome, and his pitch count is really low.
Wow Hughes. Way to right the ship after the first inning. This is why we don’t judge a start after one inning.
You’re looking at it all wrong man. He was terrible in the first game(only the first inning) and has been great in the second.
Unless we trollin’
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2012
Phil’s been pretty good since the beginning of May, not great, but he’s basically our fifth starter, and if your fifth starter can have a sub-4 ERA that’s not bad.
Well, right now he’s the #3 starter at worst.
True…when saying 5th I forgot to take into account the injuries to CC and Pettitte, but apparently CC’s fine and this is just a precautionary thing, he’ll be back before we know it.
Trevor Plouffe has 18 homers after 2 more today.
Where the hell did that come from?
Shhhhh don’t tell Riddle! He’s gonna freak out!
Who is Riddle?
The commenter Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle.
“Riddle” is just my shorthand for him.
Did he used to be know as the Plouffenator?
Yup, that’s him. He hates Trevor Plouffe.
Aye, that’d be me. I have an unreasonable disdain for Trevor’s name. It sounds like a feminine hygiene product.
It is rather effeminate to say the least
He’ll always be Plouffenator to me.
Me too. I hate calling him Riddle.
sorry guys, I like this handle much more. Though I’m always trying to think up new ones. However I haven’t found a new one I like yet.
I was temped to go with Boone-Tang, but decided against it.
And this is why I’m stuck with a fish name that was the punchline to a random open thread joke no one remembers.
This just in: My handle kicks ass.
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http://www.google.com/imgres?q.....3,s:0,i:81
Great all around game by Hughes.
Our Gold Glove first baseman.
Teix is money at 1B.
And pop-ups. I couldn’t resist.
That’s a standing ovation type of performance for Hughes.
If the fans don’t vote him as POTG, I will be outraged!
OK. Hughes in the ninth? He’s at 106 pitches. Discuss.
Batter to batter, unless they expand the lead, then give him to 120 pitches.
Yeah, he should definitely start the ninth.
Let him start it. If he runs a runner or two gets on base, bring in someone else. But he might have another quick inning left in him.
*If he let’s a runner or two get on base
Soriano. Just win, baby.
Where’d you come from?
*draws vagina*
Why are you showing me a set of roast beef curtains?
That’s pretty fucking hilarious, actually.
This. (unless they tack on some runs)
2 run lead… let’s not repeat Thursday where with a multi-run lead you don’t bring in the best arm available until he’s one pitch away from giving up the lead.
OK. I’ll text Girardi with our instructions for the ninth.
Along with the fish’s contrary vote.
Nah, hot day. Let Soriano start the inning nice and clean. He’s going to have to warm up anyway, might as well use him.
I like this reasoning, if he is definitely gonna warm up regardless.
I agree. Don’t want to piss of Soriano’s wife.
No 9th for Phil again? Soriano had just burned himself out a few days ago but we’re gonna do it again. Let Phil go after Rios, if he gets on, go to Soriano. Out to out. 106 pitches?
Phil Hughes at 105 pitches
Or as Don Cooper and Ventura would say…. good for another 2-3 innings.
Great game Phil Hughes…..might even think bout making him pitch the 9th.
Cvm farts all around!
High five me already!
Yoooouuuuk
Hahahahaha. YOUK!
Tonight, we are young, without A-Rod in the line-up, we’re on fire…
YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUK
At age 33, I can’t believe how shot Youkilis has become overnight
Sa-wing and a miss Youk.
The umps zone has clearly opened up. I think it’s because of the swamp ass he’s experiencing.
He’s basically saying “Listen guys, remember the ankle to neck strike zone you had in little league…that’s what’s happening right now. You could drown a puppy in my boxers right now.”
The ump strikes me as a tighty-whitey sort of guy actually.
This just in: HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES!
I think it’s been for the past 17 innings, he’s looked cool as the other side of the pillow, despite the heat.
It’s been so nice around here the last 2 hours after the Yankees took the lead sans the troll squad.
I find it funny that no matter how well the Yankees are doing in general, if the other team takes the lead for just an inning or two, trolls feel the need to come out of the woodwork. The Yankees have been playing great baseball for awhile now. You’d think their fans would want to enjoy it.
That’s what happens when you develop an opinion first and look for any little shred of evidence out there you can find to back it up.
That can be taken out of a baseball context, and put into any aspect of life. I like it.
I love how they surface as soon as the Yankees fall behind and disappear just as quickly when they take the lead.
I wonder if they root for the Yankees to fall behind just so they have the opportunity to bitch.
this
I love how they surface as soon as the Yankees fall behind and disappear just as quickly when they take the lead.
I wonder if they root for the Yankees to fall behind just so they have the opportunity to bitch.
and this
I love how they surface as soon as the Yankees fall behind and disappear just as quickly when they take the lead.
I wonder if they root for the Yankees to fall behind just so they have the opportunity to bitch.
It is a weird personality type who would come to a place like RAB when they dislike the Yanks.
but not this
Why are so many people so eager to say where are the trolls?
Can’t folks just be happy they aren’t here, rather than asking where they are?
Because we like to make fun of them when they’re so often wrong.
STUART….!! Are you here?!?
No, he’s where he always is when the Yankees are winning: curled up in a corner somewhere in the fetal position.
Besides, A-Rod isn’t playing. What would he have to talk about?
I was hoping to hear a positive comment from him, the third baseman had a good game. Granted, not an Ike-Davis-like performance.
Heh. stuart doesn’t do positive though.
Soriano’s coming in.
Your player of the game today is:
1. Phil Hughes
2. Robbie Cano
3. Eric Chavez
4. PAT KELLY!
My choice is E(and/or 5). Gene Monahan.
HUUUUUUUUUGHES!!!!
It probably wouldn’t have mattered, and yes it’s a hot day… but doesn’t Wise have to attempt a steal at some point? It’s not like AJ is Johnny Bench back there.
Jeter now sub-.300 AVG, I feel a hot streak coming soon
So, Phil Hughes + Beastly Hot Day = Homer-Happy Fiasco is another myth that bites the dust?
I must admit I was worried against this lineup.
You’re either lying or delusional if you where not worried about this game.
No game’s a guarantee. Shouldn’t you be slightly, but appropriately, worried about every game?
Most games I feel confident that the Yankees will win. Other games, like today for example, I think they can win, but wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t.
Srsly. This is a pretty serious lineup.
Actually, I felt pretty good about winning. Granted, after the first inning I was worried about a Hughes reversion to the “old” Hughes, but he kicked ass. Before the game though? With the way we’ve been playing I didn’t think we were going to lose this series.
Like Kuroda did yesterday, you can actually get people out when it’s hot — and not blame the weather when you suck it up.
Michael Kay must be happy O’Neill only got to 18,000 followers on twitter
Raul got caught with a foul ball in the jaw?!
TBS talking about the Yankee injuries?
I’m confused I thought the Boston Red Sox were the only team in baseball that had to deal with injuries.
Damn, Ibanez doesn’t even play the field and takes a ball to the chops.
Robin Ventura looks young than _____ Yankee players?
“Blorg says:
July 1, 2012 at 2:39 pm
I’m really hoping they trade for/sign Hamels so we won’t have see anymore of Hughes. He has his moments but more often than not he’s a disappointment and the weak link in the rotation.”
I’ll assume Blog’s been mowing the lawn since about the second inning.
That was the 2nd best comment of the day next to the guy who gave up and left when it was 2-0
Where is that one? Must have skimmed it over.
TommyBoy says:
July 1, 2012 at 2:28 pm
I’m done with this game! Pathetic ass Yankees!
Nice. I wish these guys would watch a baseball game every once in a while and learn a bit about the sport before they go comment on a blog related to it.
TommyBoy says:
July 1, 2012 at 2:28 pm
I’m done with this game! Pathetic ass Yankees!
Probably a Red Sox fan who had to run off to get ready to watch his team.
Or just a general asshat.
Damn! I knew I was forgetting something today. For Stuart, this is Scheister signing out and gasing up the lawn mower.
Robin Ventura looks younger* than _____ Yankee players?
Wow, Youk is so ugly. It’s even worse w/o a hat…
Damnit MFIKY, never easy w/ you, is it?
Kay: Soriano has been absolute NAILS.
Great game
These Yankees are pretty damned good.
Untuck!
WOOOOOOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shirttail out. Cock out. The Rafael Soriano way.
YANKEEEES WIN!!!
PHIL PHUCKIN HUGHES IS A STAHTIN PITCHA INDEED!
UNTUCK
That was a GREAT 0-1 pitch tom Ramirez.
Also a great 0-2 pitch. Yankees win!!
Great Win…
Good job by Soriano (well except the walk with 2 out and a 2 run lead… give up a solo shot if you have to – make the guy swing)
Still don’t like the untuck shirt thing, but it is at least less obnoxious than some of the other antics of closers around baseball.
Like Chapman doing somersaults towards home plate for example
On behalf of Cuba, I apologize for him.
That didn’t happen…did it? I lost a lot of respect for him if it did.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_.....elebration
It was all over MLB.com for a day and a half
This was an enjoyable game thread.
Need 714 comments.
/Babed
Great game by Hughsie. I was worried about this game, to be sure.
But Jeter did slide below .300, so I must get drunk like I promised.