Game 78: Old Timers’ Day


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I’ve always felt that Old Timers’ Day is one of those events you have to attend in person to really appreciate. Watching on television is fun and all, but you can’t really appreciate the gravity of the situation. I was at the 2007 event, which was Paul O’Neill’s first year back. The chants for him were just unbelievably loud, and then you had Don Mattingly and his chants. Then Reggie Jackson. Then Whitey Ford and Yogi Berra. It was amazing and having watched on television the last four years just isn’t the same. It’s fun, don’t get me wrong, but it’s much more enjoyable in person.

Anyway, this year’s crop of newcomers is headlined by retired and long-time trainer Gene Monahan, as well as Sterling Hitchock, Matt Nokes, and Tanyon Sturtze. Jorge Posada will not be there this year, but he won’t stay away forever. Most guys take a few years off before coming back. The full roster of Old Timers can be found right here.

The Old Timers’ Day festivities start at 11am ET and can be seen on YES. The series finale against the White Sox will follow at 2:05pm ET, and you can watch that on YES locally and TBS nationally. I’ll add the lineup once it’s posted. Enjoy.

Update: Here’s today’s lineup…

SS Derek Jeter
CF Curtis Granderson
1B Mark Teixeira
2B Robinson Cano
RF Nick Swisher
DH Raul Ibanez
3B Eric Chavez
Russell Martin
LF Dewayne Wise

RHP Phil Hughes

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Travis L. says:

    Wise is starting to earn the substitute left fielder spot while Gardner is out.

  2. stuart a says:

    arod playing in the old timers game today?

    arod needs the day off after knocking the ball all around the infield for the last few games?

    the topic never discussed on Yes, how awful Arod has been. 35 rbi’s….

  3. Double-J says:

    Does anyone else have a choppy/broken feed? I’m watching on DirecTV and it seems to cut out for a microsecond. Annoying as hell.

  4. Mike Axisa says:

    Testing the emergency broadcast system in the middle of OTD. smdh

    • Rooting for U.S. Steel says:

      Sure that’s what it was? Might have been Whitey Ford’s heart monitor…

      (Whaddaya mean, “Too soon!” Nothing’s happened yet!)

  5. Alex Rodriguez says:

    I have the day off because I am having an orgy with all of stuart a’s female ralatives. In a pile of hundred dollar bills while he sits on his computer all alone.

  6. Idk if 880 is broadcasting Old Timers day but if it is BOO!!! on MLB.TV for not carrying it. All well, continuing South Park-athon until game time.

  7. Mike N says:

    Is Girardi actually gonna play in the game?

  8. Mike N says:

    I hope Tino jacks another one this year.

  9. RetroRob says:

    Looks like Bernie has finally accepted he’s retired. Looks a little more soft around the middle this year!

  10. RI$P FTW says:

    Why is Torre there? Isn’t he still butt hurt that they got rid of him for fucking up so much?

  11. Ethan says:

    I really wish MLB.tv would broadcast this

  12. Mike N says:

    I love how Swisher loves this shit!

  13. Steve S. says:

    The guys from the 70′s teams are really getting old. I think I saw liver spots on Bucky Dent’s face.

  14. Steve S. says:

    So who gets announced last, Yogi or Torre?


  15. Mike Axisa says:

    Heh, Rickey’s on the golf cart.

    • RI$P FTW says:

      Life without roids can be a real bitch.

    • Mike N says:

      He better steal if he gets on base in the game.

    • Steve S. says:

      Steroids really screw up the legs. Good thing they’re keeping guys like him out of the HOF.

      …..wait a minute….

      • RetroRob says:

        Players in the HOF who I think might have tried steroids:

        Rickey, Nolan Ryan and Carlton Fisk.

        I don’t mean this as a knock as they should be in the HOF, any player in the game in the late 80s and into the 90s probably at least experimented. I add Fisk in because like David Ortiz, Ryan Braun and others, anyone who complains too much and pretends their above it all are probably hiding something.

        • RetroRob says:


        • Steve S. says:

          I don’t think Ryan did steroids, I think he’s a Verlander-type product of ridiculously good mechanics. I remember hearing Fisk tell stories about his Dad being in his 80′s and still running working farm (or something) so I’ll chalk him up to genetics.

          But Ricky? He did play on that late 80s A’s team, you know. :wink:

          • RetroRob says:

            I’m not saying for sure, just saying I wouldn’t be surprised. I’m not trying to take anything away from Ryan’s freakish talent. Although pitchers overall throw harder today than at any point, I do think Ryan is the hardest throwing pitcher to ever play the game. That however doesn’t mean he didn’t experiment toward the end. I wouldn’t put it past anyone.

            My guess is there are a number of players in the HOF right now who at least tried steroids. Its use exploded in the 90s, but was around in the 80s.

  16. RetroRob says:

    I guess HOFers get a golf-cart entrance.

  17. Greg says:

    Gossage and Reggie. And then probably Ford and Yogi

  18. Steve S. says:


  19. RetroRob says:

    Reggie saying screw the intro. I’ll just walk out. Of course, that simply means more camera time for him. People never change.

    • Steve S. says:

      Reggie was the first two true outcome hitter. He either struck out or hit ginourmous, uber-clutch HRs.

      • RetroRob says:

        I actually think Reggie was a bit of an underrated hitter, which may sound crazy. He played in a BA surpressed time, and back then people used to freak out about hitters striking out.

  20. Steve S. says:

    The two guys with the best timing in the history of the franchise. Yogi and Whitey.

  21. Mike N says:

    A couple years ago, I was at the Yanks-Dodgers in LA, and during warm-ups before the game, the only Yanks who signed autographs for little kids were Swisher and Reggie.

  22. Mike N says:


  23. Steve S. says:

    The widows always get me (gulp)

    • Mike N says:

      I’ll never forget being a little kid away at summer camp hearing that Munson had died.

      • Steve S. says:

        Yeah, we’re about the same age. I heard about it on the news and read the paper the next day.

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          I actually remember the telecast after his death. Strange what your earliest memories are sometimes.

          I remember a random Eric Solderholm at-bat (circa 1980), probably only because I could actually read his name by that point.

  24. Steve S. says:

    OK, now that the ceremonies are over we can talk some baseball.

    How good has Austin Jackson been this year? Huge breakout season, and nobody seems to be talking about it. He’s been every bit as good as Grandy if not better.

  25. Adam says:

    Cone and Hitchcock, good enough.

  26. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Absolutely my favorite time of the season. Third, really, to “first pitch of Opening Day” and “Final out when the Yankees win the WS.”

    This is in the top three of why being a Yankee fan is different than being a fan of any team in professional sports. This organization shows you such respect just for putting on their uniform, whether you’re in the GCL or retired.

  27. Robinson Tilapia says:

    No meatballs to Tino this year, Cone.

  28. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Love the live mic on O’Neill. Can you imagine one of those on Swisher for an entire game?

  29. Mike N says:

    Mazilli has some pop on his throw to first!

  30. Mike N says:

    C’mon, Darryl! Hustle!

  31. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Who said Pat Kelly sucked last night?

  32. Adam says:

    Go Pat Kelly.

  33. Robinson Tilapia says:

    The defense is betraying an otherwise fine performance by Gator today.

  34. Mike N says:

    I really wanna see O’Neill go yard!

  35. Brian S. says:

    NHL free agency has been slow so far.

  36. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Bucky should be allowed to forego the uniform for a “Buck Foston” shirt.

  37. Mike N says:

    I wonder who these umps are?

  38. Steve S. says:

    My favorite Bucky Dent factoid. He DIDN’T hit the game winning HR in the ‘Bucky Dent’ game. Reggie did.

  39. Mike N says:

    Cone looks pissed he just allowed Dent’s hit!

  40. Adam says:

    Bucky Dent played that at bat nicely. Worked the count really really well

  41. Steve S. says:

    Once a singles hitter, always a singles hitter.


  42. Greg says:

    I hope one day the Tigers come in during OTD so we can see Prince and Cecil together.

  43. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Wait…..who’s catching?

  44. Mike N says:

    Lame AB.

  45. Greg says:

    Somebody get the water cooler

  46. stuart a says:

    yep rbi’s mean shit but arod has less rbi’s then about 80 hitters in the AL alone.

    arod’s productivity is horrible… comparing him to a pool of terrible 3b, means nothing.

    arod is terrible, your eyes do not lie….

    • Bunt Gardner says:

      I’m only happy when it rains
      You want to hear about my new obsession
      I’m riding high upon a deep depression
      I’m only happy when it rains…pour some misery down on me
      I’m only happy when it rains….pour some misery down on me

    • Alex Rodriguez says:

      Just got done with your cousin now I’m moving onto your niece. :)

    • Crime Dog says:

      Your argument is insane. You concede that your argument is dumb, and then go ahead and argue it.

    • Paul VuvuZuvella says:

      Don’t you have a book you’re dying to finish ?

    • Robinson Tilapia says:


  47. RetroRob says:

    MLB baseball uniforms are very unforgiving for former players out of shape.

  48. Mike N says:

    Let’s go BOMBERS!

  49. Pat D says:

    Jeter, Cano and Grandy All-Star starters.

  50. Greg says:

    The Melkman is an All-Star starter.

  51. Yankeefan1421 says:

    Where is NETTLES?? He never misses these things. I know he stopped going to spring training a couple of years ago…wonder what’s up.

    • Mike N says:

      That’s a good question. I’m pretty sure I remember him being at OTD last year.

      • Yankeefan1421 says:

        Yeah….he was. He’s always there. I did hear at one point that he’s miffed that his number 9 is retired for Maris only and not him.

        Nettles’ career is funny. Playing in a non-offense era, the guy had just about 400 home runs and was one of the very best third basemen ever and yet got no serious HOF consideration and seems to be largely forgotten by the Yankees.

  52. Mike N says:

    It *is* Homer Bush!

  53. RetroRob says:

    Sterling Hitchcock. An important man in Yankee dynasty history.

  54. Mike N says:

    Hahahahah. Sturtz in the outfield.

  55. RetroRob says:

    Mickey Rivers still swings and hits like Mickey Rivers.

    • Pat D says:

      Does he still throw like Mickey Rivers?

      • RetroRob says:

        I’m sure his arm is no worse, because it was horrible back then. Damon-esque.

        • Pat D says:

          I just remember reading Bill James talking about his “chicken-wing flapping” motion.

          • Steve S. says:

            He meant that in the “Buffalo” sense. His arm was very spicy.

          • RetroRob says:

            Oh, yeah. Mickey had very unique mannerisms walking up to the plate, swinging the bat, and throwing the ball. Made him very popular with kids. He almost seemed like a cartoon character. I can only imagine him in today’s game. I would never turn off the postgame interview because he’d be a show unto himself.

            • Steve S. says:

              There wasn’t a kid on my block that didn’t try to spin the bat the way the Mick did after he swung. Myself included, though I wasn’t very good at it. Bat would go flying and usually hit me in the back of the head. Explains a lot, I know.

      • Steve S. says:

        Does he still walk like Mickey Rivers?

        Mick was such a character. He would walk up to the plate like an old man with bad knees. Then the minute he hit the ball he was fast as lightning. Then once he crossed home plate he walked like an old man again.

        • Pat D says:


        • RetroRob says:

          It is kind of interesting. When Mickey walks up to the plate now that he’s in his mid-60s, you can’t be sure if he’s just moving slowly because he’s older, or if he’s just being Mickey. Looking at him run on that single, it appears he was just being Mickey.

  56. Mike N says:

    I’d like to see Hitchcock brush somebody back. Rivers was totally crowding the plate.

  57. Mike N says:

    Good job by Rivers to score on the single!

  58. Pat D says:

    Strasburg to the ASG!

    Kind of a scary thing yesterday for him, though.

  59. Kevin G. says:

    Hitchcock with the anti-Yankee beard

  60. Mike N says:

    Strawberry, HUSTLE! Sheesh.

  61. Pat D says:

    No Bryce Harper for the ASG.

    Let’s see if he’s on the final man vote.

    • Greg says:

      Harper has been in a slide, starting when we went there. He’s hitting .274/.347/.475

      • Pat D says:

        I’m of the opinion that the sooner you start promoting the shit out of these guys, the better for the game.

        At least McCutchen is there, he’s someone who definitely needs to be promoted.

        • Yankeefan1421 says:

          I totally agree. Can you imagine the NFL or the NBA being as stuck in their pasts as baseball is? Chipper Jones is going but not Harper? Why? The All Star Game is purely a tv show at this point. If MLB is trying to appeal to younger fans, why showcase a 40 year old who can’t play any more and who is leaving anyway? Why not establish memories now of Harper?

          Baseball just seems insistent on constantly focusing on the past. And yet it wonders why the ages of its fans skews older every year.

          • Yankeefan1421 says:

            And I mean no disrespect to Chipper Jones, who has had a tremendous career and should go to Cooperstown. He definitely deserves a tip of the cap and a mention. But put the focus on the stars of tomorrow.

  62. Yankeefan1421 says:

    I think it was on Michael Kay’s show last year, they were talking about how Old Timer’s games for about 9 or 10 years were taken somewhat seriously. They’d have the Yanks vs the Dodgers or Yanks vs. Sox or Giants or whatever and there was actually some legit competition going on to some degree. Guys played in their 40′s, but then were phased out by the time they were 50 or something.

    They actually played 9 innings a few times I think is what they said. I have to say, the modern day OTD game is something I look forward to, but am bored pretty quickly. Like a strip joint.

  63. Adam says:

    The Clippers scores look lopsided. Definitely excellent playing.

  64. Mike N says:

    DP. Fuuuuuuck.

  65. Mike N says:



  66. Pat D says:

    CC was picked, but is already announced as not playing.

  67. Mike N says:

    OK. Time for real Yankees baseball.

    Here’s hoping the good Hughes shows up.

  68. Pat D says:

    Washington is such a fucking asshole. 3 of 5 managers picks being his own guys.

  69. Greg says:

    By the way: Final vote candidates:

    AL: Darvish, Broxton, Ernesto Frieri, Hammel and Peavy

    NL: Bourn, Freese, Harper, Hill, and Chipper Jones

  70. Greg says:

    By the way: Final vote candidates:

    AL: Darvish, Broxton, Ernesto Frieri, Hammel and Peavy

    NL: Bourn, Freese, Harper, Hill, and Chipper Jones

  71. jjyank says:

    Bummer I couldn’t watch. Damn MLB.TV.

    I see stuart a is back again. He learned to use the reply button though, so that’s progress.

  72. Pat D says:

    I think the final man votes both suck, frankly.

  73. RI$P FTW says:

    Why is Kimmy Gibbler in the booth with Kay?

  74. Betty Lizard says:

    Shady porch + watermelon + french pressed coffee + NY TImes + baseball (iPad!) + Old Timers Day (Swisher!) = joy, pure joy.

  75. jjyank says:

    Didn’t realize Floyd was having such a down year.

  76. rogue says:

    The only OT game I’ll pay any attention to is the one where Jim Bouton is playing in.

  77. YankeesJunkie says:

    Get rid of Hughes!!!

  78. Mike N says:

    Oh, geez.

  79. Cy Pettitte says:

    Cole Hamels come on down

  80. YankeesJunkie says:

    Nice play to save a run!

  81. Mike N says:

    Wow! Great stab by Jeter!

  82. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (former Manny's BanWagon) says:

    This White Sox team can really hit.

  83. jjyank says:


  84. Kramerica Industries says:

    Well, at least Hughes lets it be known whether he’ll be good or bad right from the start.

    Seems like every shitty start of his starts from the top with a few first inning runs.

  85. TommyBoy says:

    Phil “right down the middle” Hughes is back!

  86. Mr. Pink says:

    Phil Hughes is able to trick us into thinking he’s turned the page and is a good pitcher by having a couple of good starts but we all can see past the numbers. He still sucks.

  87. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (former Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Nasty curve by Hughes. Hopefully he’ll settle down and throw some zeros up for a few innings.

  88. Ivan says:

    Lets get some runs guys!

  89. Kramerica Industries says:

    Lucky day for Robbie.

    Just found out it’s June 31st.

  90. Mike N says:

    C’mon, Robinson! Jack one! (Or a single would be good.)

  91. Pat D says:

    Robinson’s complete sucktitude with bases loaded continues.

  92. Mike N says:

    Maximum bad outcome, other than a triple play.

  93. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (former Manny's BanWagon) says:

    That sure sucks the big one.

  94. TommyBoy says:

    Cano and pressure do not mix.

  95. Nathan says:

    God these guys are horrible with RISP.

    It’s like a horror movie where you know whats going to happen.

  96. wow says:

    unbelievable…. what a friggin joke.

  97. Kramerica Industries says:

    Better hope that failure doesn’t bite this team in the ass today.

    • Mr. Pink says:

      There must’ve been like 20 games this year that we lost where we had multiple runners on base with less than 2 outs and couldn’t get it done.

  98. Countryclub says:

    Way to pick up your pitcher, guys.

  99. Mr. Pink says:

    Yup. This team still sucks with hitting with bases loaded and RISP. Pathetic at-bats by Cano and Swish.

  100. TommyBoy says:

    I’m done with this game! Pathetic ass Yankees!

  101. Arya says:

    That was just awful. Hughes needs to put the clamp down and hold them to 2. Then at least we have a chance at a single and a HR to tie.

  102. Tom Q says:

    Wow. Thought they’d got past the bases-loaded flameouts like that. And they didn’t even make Floyd throw alot of pitches. That inning was a throwback to four weeks ago.

  103. Brian S. says:

    Cano can’t even hustle to first base to try to beat the throw.

  104. Mike N says:

    All right, Hughes. Man up, now!

  105. stuart a says:

    swisher cannot spell of speed. he is a total dope.

    cano with the bases loaded, nothing to say the #’s do not lie.

    they got zilch, but sabermetrician fools pontificate on BA with RISP or rbi’s are irrelevant because of some innocuous bull crap…

    cano is a friggin moron.

  106. TommyBoy says:

    I can’t wait ’till next year when Swisher’s chessy ass is no longer on the team!

  107. RetroRob says:

    So far, I enjoyed the Old Timers’s Game more.

    Bases loaded, nobody out, best hitter on the team up, and no runs scored. Cano has killed the Yankees in these spots all year long.

    All that, and Floyd only tossed 17 pitches.

    It’s early, but time to to break out the gin!

  108. Countryclub says:

    Did anyone else notice that the 1st run never stepped on home plate?

  109. Pat D says:

    Well apparently the game is over.

  110. jjyank says:

    I love you Bernie.

    • Mike N says:

      Bernie is awesome. I love when there is a rain delay and they show him and his jazz band.

      • jjyank says:

        He’s my favorite player of all time. Dude was my idol growing up. I used to love those commercials where Bernie would play guitar and O’Neil was on the drums.

  111. Tom says:

    Bases loaded….. time to turn up the aggressiveness!

    Tex actually showed some patience, didn’t chase, and got the walk.

    Cano didn’t see a fastball (nor would he).

    Swisher saw one fastball (up and outside by 2 feet) and swung at ball 3 and ball 4 on 2-1 and 2-2.

    Part of the RISP is a lack of patience (which they show with noonone on or a guy on 1st) and pitchers are capitalizing on it. Throw stuff offspeed and off the plate to induce weak contact and with men on most Yankee hitters chase.

    • Athenian says:

      It is the high risk of a home run happy team. Those situations remove the logic of a base hit. Unfortunately, it is a situation that could really bite them in the ass in the playoffs.

      • jjyank says:

        I hate that narrative.

        • Mike N says:

          And it is a narrative that is ruled out by available statistical evidence.

          • RetroRob says:

            Actually, the available statistical evidence shows teams that hit HRs do better in the postseason.

            The problem isn’t that they hit HRs (btw, where did this stupid idea come from?), but that they’re having a bad year with RISP.

            Power is a good thing during the regular season and the postseason.

  112. RetroRob says:

    Can a MLB player collect his MLB pension if he doesn’t officially retire?

    • Pat D says:

      I think Bernie made enough money.

      At least I would hope so.

      • RetroRob says:

        He made a lot of money, but for a guy like Bernie and his service, his yearly MLB pension might eclipse a 200K. (It was over 100K years ago, if I remember correctly). He could have made all the money he wanted, I don’t think anyone would just give that up. Hell, he could give it to a family member if he wanted. Leads me to believe he can collect it without officially retiring.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      You’d have to think no, right?

      • DM says:

        I think no — but there’s some other advantage to him not officially retiring that escapes me at the moment.

  113. Will The Thrill says:

    Phil Hughes is frustrating as hell. Even within this start so far I see both the 2010 beast Phil Hughes and the crappy 2011 Phil Hughes. Consistency Phil!

  114. Mike N says:


  115. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (former Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Most of the old timers really porked up.

    • Mike N says:

      Dunno how old you are, but it is really hard to stay slender once you hit your mid-40s. This is especially the case for former athletes who are used to eating like athletes. (Says the mid-40s former athlete who could stand to lose about 25 pounds.)

  116. so I’m a little late to the party…what did I miss?

  117. Blorg says:

    I’m really hoping they trade for/sign Hamels so we won’t have see anymore of Hughes. He has his moments but more often than not he’s a disappointment and the weak link in the rotation.


    • RetroRob says:

      Pettitte will be back in 2013. He’s getting one of those rotation spots.

      I would not count on seeing Pineda until at least mid year. The Yankees will have to build their rotation expecting Pineda to not make it back. He also has options, which they might as well use until they think he can help.

  118. Cuso says:

    Resident old timer Raul will go yard

  119. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (former Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Rios has a gun out there. That’s probably the worst part of Swishers game. He has a left fielders arm.

  120. Mike Axisa says:

    Ibanez stole a base? Sure, why not.

  121. Mike N says:

    What does that say on Goose’s cap?

  122. WTF?! Is this bizzaro world? Ibanez stole a base, on a high pitch too?

  123. Cy Pettitte says:

    Raul Ibanez just stole a base. uh what.

  124. ZOMBIECHEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  125. Mike N says:


  126. Cy Pettitte says:

    Chavy! Joe is looking like a genius with these recent off days and putting in Chavez, Wise, Nix.

  127. flamingo says:

    Ha, no way! CHAVEZ!

  128. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (former Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Ya Chavez.

    Now all the doom and gloom trolls can go back to their caves at least for a few innings.

  129. jjyank says:


    …wait, I thought the RAB trolls told me the game was over?

  130. Ivan says:

    New Ballgame.

  131. Athenian says:

    Well that is good. Apparently the first game of this double header was over, Yankees losing 2-0 and Hughes taking the loss.

    But in this second game, Yankees are tied 2-2. Amazingly , Hughes has so much left in the tank from the first game he is now pitching the second game. THAT is team work.

    • Andy Pettitte's Fibula (former Manny's BanWagon) says:

      Weren’t you just blowing the “Yankees hit too many homers ” trumpet a minute ago?

      • Athenian says:

        Actually, what I said was that they are homer happy which works against them with bases loaded. Never said they hit too many homers, just that the home run approach works against them in those situations.

        If you look at Cano and Swishers AB’s, the first swing of Cano’s was a home run swing. He got screwed on the second pitch, a bit and then had to take a defensive approach which worked against him. Same with Swisher. Took the first, which was the most hittable in that AB, for a strike. Then, on the last pitch, he didn’t pick up the rotation and swung at a what he thought was a fastball and went right over the top of it, missing by three inches. That swing was a home run swing that about pulled him out of the batters box.

        But I get the need to show your peacock feathers. it is the superiority complex of the board.

  132. Countryclub says:

    Regardless of what happens today, Hughes has had 2 bad starts over the past 2 months. He’s been great as a 4/5 starter.

  133. jjyank says:

    LOL of course Peavey doesn’t like the ball park.

  134. DM says:

    That Chavez sucks at baseball. Hey wait, I thought he was on the DL most of the time. How can he be playing?

  135. nsalem says:

    Brett .943 OPS vs Gossage in 44 PA’s

  136. Ivan says:

    Someone should tell Jake Peavy that this isnt Petco and left handed hitters have had that same approach in Yankee Stadium since eons.

  137. Countryclub says:

    Need a zero from Phil here.

  138. Cy Pettitte says:

    nice curve to K Dunn

  139. Crime Dog says:

    I know people complain about the too many home runs thing, but, damn I love it. I love the fact that 1-9 (usually), these guys can create a rally from nothing. It makes games where they’re down 4 or 5 seem closer than that.

  140. Ivan says:

    Shut down inning Hughes.

  141. Mike N says:


  142. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (former Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Rios has really turned it around this year. He’s having a great season.

  143. Crime Dog says:

    Alex Rios has had the oddest career path of anyone I can remember watching play.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      He’s not a bad player, but he should be so much better than he actually is. Lots of talent.

      • Crime Dog says:

        I think the massive contract from Toronto always put him in the Vernon Wells realm to me also (even though I know he’s nowhere near Wells-bad).

      • RetroRob says:

        He also seems to punish the Yankees. Haven’t looked up his numbers, but he seems to have good games against the Yankees.

  144. Mike N says:


  145. Will The Thrill says:

    Hughes is walking on thin ice. He’s a two pitch pitcher and both pitches aren’t consistently great today.

  146. Good job bearing down there Phillip.

  147. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (former Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Grandy, Teix and Cano

    Sounds like some runs to me.

  148. Pat D says:

    This promo for the Charlie Sheen Centerstage is…disturbing.

  149. Crime Dog says:

    Floyd’s thrown his cutter 30% of pitches this year, and even more this game it seems. I think the Yankees will adjust throughout the game.

  150. Tom says:

    Cano going deep here

  151. RetroRob says:

    Weird. It said O’Neill had over 3,000, but then when I click on his name it says he has under 600.

  152. Mike N says:

    LAZY CANO!!!!!!!

  153. Tom says:
    July 1, 2012 at 3:03 pm
    Cano going deep here

    good call sir.

    • Tom says:

      Man on 1st…. totally different approach (I was going to say double or HR).

      He had no intention of swinging at the first 2 pitches and with a guy on 1st a pitcher is more willing to attack.

  154. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    Cano is going to hit 40 this year.

  155. Crime Dog says:

    Holy shit Robbie

  156. Kramerica Industries says:


    I’m not mocking Paul and Mike, but their timing about “maybe Cano just doesn’t pick [Floyd] up well…BOOM…” is just hilarious.

  157. Ivan says:

    Yikes……That was crush….That was a total fustration homer by Cano

  158. captain kiwi says:

    haha! what a great moment to walk into the game! robbie is gonna be a fan of july as well!

  159. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (former Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Is Granderson eating an ice pop?

  160. Athenian says:

    I think Cano has become Rod Carew with power. Holy shit does he have just a beautiful swing!

  161. jjyank says:

    My lord Robbie, you are on some kind of roll. Beautiful.

    • Athenian says:

      Seriously!!! Talk about locked in.

      • jjyank says:

        I doubt I’ll get a lot of argument, but I do believe he has the most beautiful swing I’ve ever seen. Perhaps in-their-prime Griffey Jr. and A-Rod too, but right now? Cano all the way.

        Notice the “I’ve ever seen” part. I’m still only 23, so I don’t have a ton of experience to draw on.

        • Crime Dog says:

          Yeah, I’m 20 so I barely got to see prime KGJ but I would put Robbie up with KGJ and A-Rod in their primes in terms of most beautiful swings.

          In that regard, is Hunter Pence the Anti-Cano? Man is his swing ugly.

          • captain kiwi says:

            i remember an article from last year (i think) trying to find baseball’s version of tim tebow (success with no rational explanation why). hunter pence was at the top of the list

        • captain kiwi says:

          i have and probably always will love a-rod’s swing the most. robbie does have a beautiful swing though, and i’m a fan of hamilton’s swing too. but only his swing.

  162. DM says:

    It’s just the heat. Cano’s ball would be only a line drive single over 2nd base otherwise.

  163. Mike N says:

    TommyBoy says:
    July 1, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    I’m done with this game! Pathetic ass Yankees!

    I hope TommyBoy is enjoying polishing his figurines this afternoon instead of watching the game that was over.

  164. Ivan says:

    I cant see Cano hitting 40 homers, but I do think he get around 35-36…

  165. Cy Pettitte says:

    61 pitches through 2.2 innings in this heat can’t be fun

  166. Pat D says:

    Here’s what Buster Olney had to say about O’Neill joining Twitter.

    Paul O’Neill joined twitter, @PaulONeillYES Over/under on how many times he throws his keyboard in frustration after 140 characters is 21.

  167. Cuso says:

    Wht the hell are the Brewers and Diamondbacks wearing?

  168. jjyank says:

    Mr. Riddle, I’m offended that you haven’t commented on my counter to your Charlie Sheen argument.

  169. Crime Dog says:

    It sounds like Martin’s gonna be dealing with this back issue the whole year. It would be nice to see the Yankees go out and get a catcher who can handle themselves and maybe take 125 ABs the rest of the way (i.e., an upgrade over Stewart or Cervelli)

    • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

      Jeter just needs to tell Stewart to be a better defender.

      • Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

        or just stop telling him to make bad plays like throwing the ball into CF

    • Adam says:

      One of my friends says it should be the catcher sitting right next to him. I personally disagree, but that’s because I like Stewart right now over Martin.

    • Tom says:

      Upgrade over Stewart? Is that even possible?

      “Have you see Stewies defense? He’s a gamer. He does the little things that scrappy catchers do.”

      • Crime Dog says:

        The problem with getting another catcher is that the market is SO bare for catchers. There’s no backup-worthy ones available it seems.

        • RetroRob says:

          Hence why Cashman picked up Stewart on the last day of ST. You don’t want to be a GM on the market for a catcher when you actually need one.

        • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

          Humberto Quintero just got DFA’d and is a pretty good defender. Definitely an upgrade over Stewart.

          • Crime Dog says:

            Quintero is an upgrade over Stewart, for sure. I think its worth swinging a small trade for him.

          • jjyank says:

            Yeah, I vote for Quintero as well. It would be one thing is Stewart was good defensively, but he’s not.

  170. Mike N says:

    Good to get this dude’s pitch count up, too.

  171. Kramerica Industries says:

    Random comment:

    The Colorado Rockies “four pitcher, 75 pitch limit” rotation might be the dumbest and most noncompetitive concept I have ever seen in baseball. I mean, the Rockies aren’t a good team anyway, but I don’t understand what their reasoning is. I mean, how can you ever expect to win when you don’t give your starters a chance to do anything?

    It makes no sense.

    • jjyank says:

      Yeah, I don’t get it either. I know the White Sox went with a 6-man rotations for awhile last year, but when was the last time a team had a 4 man rotation? Just seems like a poor excuse for not having a good 5th starter. That bullpen must hate it.

      Also, completely eliminates any benefit you get from complete games as far as bullpen work goes.

      Nolan Ryan is probably laughing his ass off right now.

    • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

      I had this discussion with someone a few days ago…Would you rather have the Rockies pitching staff or Mariners offense?

      • jjyank says:

        Oh jeez. I’d go Mariners offense. At least guys like Montero and Ackley have promise. Maybe something clicks with Smoak too.

    • Crime Dog says:

      I like the thinking behind it, but poor execution. The team has been awful, so I like the manager trying something new. Just, not this. It seems destined to fail, especially when they apparently have no big lead ready pitchers at the moment. It just seems awful in practice.

  172. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    Sal Maglie for trivia.

  173. Mike N says:

    And Phil’s pitch count is looking good!!

    That’s great that Yankee Stadium is giving people free spring water on the concourses.

  174. jjyank says:

    Good inning by Hughes!

  175. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Thank god the Yankees didn’t trade for Danks or Floyd.

  176. Pat D says:

    By the way, does anyone have a link to Peavy’s anti-YS3 comments?

  177. Ivan says:

    Hughes looked settled in

  178. Jim Is Bored says:

    But I thought Hughes let us know really early when he was gonna suck!

    But I thought he never battled and had no fortitude!

    But I thought he was really going to give up 19% of his fly balls for home runs this year!

    But I thought he was a 5th starter at best and can’t pitch in the AL East!

  179. Kevin G. says:

    According to YES, Jose Bautista is on the Yankees

  180. So I’m faced with a dilemma tonight gentleman. For whatever reason Star Wars is popping up in my life everywhere right now, and I cannot explain why…Sunday nights are the only day I seem to have a lot of down time w/o being at work, or out doing things Should I A. Watch the original trilogy on Blu-Ray, or should I power house Uncharted 3?

  181. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    Shut up Kay.

  182. Cy Pettitte says:

    oh my god, again with the “can’t hit HRs in the playoffs” narrative.

  183. Mike N says:

    I just kind of tune them out and hear them like the teacher in Peanuts.

  184. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Wasn’t Bob Lorenz gonna be fired for his DWI?

    • Mike N says:

      Didn’t know he got one.

    • RI$P FTW says:

      What’s worse? DWI or repeatedly beating the shit out of your wife (The ‘DiMaggio’)?
      I seriously don’t know. Thoughts?

      • Pat D says:

        I’d say the latter, unless the DWI involved another person being harmed somehow. But it wouldn’t be just a DWI if that where the case.

        • eephus_pitch says:

          Brett Myers is still around, and hardly anybody even hates him.
          A-Rod, on the other hand, is somehow the most hated man in baseball.

  185. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Lorenz is drunk and he knows it.

  186. Jimmy says:

    Hughes’ next K ties him with Sparky Lyle for 43rd all-time for the Yankees.

  187. jjyank says:

    The O’s got Thome? Interesting.

  188. Mike N says:

    Hughes is locked in now!

  189. RetroRob says:

    Perhaps someone should show Jake Peavy this chart. Mobile Phone Park vs. Yankees Stadium.


  190. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    Yankees have traded for Chad Qualls.

  191. Davey Sharpton says:

    Save for a couple starts, Hughes has absolutely been a front of the rotation kind of a pitcher for the Yankees recently

  192. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Chad Qualls hahahahahahhaah

  193. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    Kay, Qualls got DFA’d. I don’t think trading him says the Phillies are giving up.

  194. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Chad Qualls sucks. How is he better than anyone they already have on the roster?

    • RetroRob says:

      How many times have we asked this question when the Yankees pick up a reliever?

    • jjyank says:

      In fairness, people were probably saying that about guys like Wade, Rapada, and Eppley too. Given their track record with bullpen construction, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

  195. Athenian says:

    Yankees trade for Chad Qualls? Phillies white flag? Perhaps that means Hamels will pitch in blue pinstripes next year.

    • Pat D says:

      I thought Hamels to the Dodgers was a virtual lock.

      • Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

        I’d would think so the way they’re spending money in LA. He could get a $200 million contract from those idiots.

    • Crime Dog says:

      Not at all. Qualls was DFA’d earlier in the week. The Phils had a bullpen shakeup and he was a casualty of that. I dont think its indicative of a Hamels deal at all.

  196. Pat D says:

    Qualls was getting brutalized in Philly. Not really sure what role he’s going to fill. Are they going to bump Eppley or Wade for him?

    • Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

      Could he be stashed in AAA in case things really get bad and they need him down the road?

    • Crime Dog says:

      I’d guess Wade going down for Qualls. Pretty interchangeable imo, Qualls had a high/unsustainable HR/FB rate in Philly if I remember correctly.

      • Pat D says:

        Yea, his HR/9 was 2.0. His BB/9 was only 2.6. He also gave up 11.2 H/9, so I can’t believe his ERA wasn’t worse.

  197. wow says:

    boy is Russ bad.

  198. Frank says:

    Is Carlos Ruiz available?

    • Pat D says:

      Considering his age and that he has a relatively cheap team option for next year, he should be available*.

      *This would only happen if the Phillies did go into full scale fire sale mode.

    • Crime Dog says:

      I’m sure that if by mid-July the Phils are way out of it, everyone not named Halladay and Lee (and maybe in a crazy-Amaro way even them) would be available.

  199. DM says:

    Qualls = cheap depth. Makes sense esp after the Aardsma setback.

  200. Rocky Road Redemption says:

    Color me surprised that CC was chosen for the pitching staff did not see that coming.

    If I were to pick a Yankee pitcher it would have been Soriano.

    • Pat D says:

      He was probably voted by the players. David Schoenfield just wrote an article for ESPN’s SweetSpot showing how the players “must” have voted weeks ago, though he doesn’t use Sabathia as a reason for this.

    • RetroRob says:

      If Soriano was actually a dominant reliever, sure, but he’s not. I’d go with the lefty starter, although since Washington already knows CC is not available, it was more just a tip of the cap to CC with no committment.

      • He’s like 13 for 14 in save opportunities…that’s pretty damn good.

        • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

          17 for 18.

        • RetroRob says:

          Don’t get me going on saves.

          I’m happy that Soriano has held down the job, but there are a lot of other pitchers I’d put on the All-Star team ahead of Soriano, including on the Yankees. CC, D-Rob and Kuroda to name three. I’d even put Pettitte there before injury.

          • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

            I thought Kuroda should have made it. He’s been money for a month and a half now.

          • Rocky Road Redemption says:

            Soriano has been fantastic though…first of all there was a discussion yesterday on whether or not there’s a difference between a closer and another type of reliever. I think there is, although it’s small. And Soriano has really been fantastic all year. Isn’t his ERA below 2?

            But D-Rob would have been a good choice, and Kuroda. Pettitte? Ehhhh, maybe. But starters are always much more important anyway, so I think the relievers need to be given a fair shake too just because they have a different role on the team.

  201. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Wow, Hughes made Viciedo look silly.

  202. Mike N says:

    Somebody forgot to tell Hughes that the game was over after the first inning.

  203. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Hughes really settled down and has pitched a good game. After a rough first inning, that’s all the more impressive.
    He seems to have turned the corner in his development into a dependable starter.

  204. Crime Dog says:

    I wonder what kind of massive haul the Phillies are asking from the Yankees for Hamels. Gotta start with two of Banuelos/Sanchez/Williams, right?

  205. Mike N says:

    I wish these idiots would stop talking about O’Neill going on Twitter. Who gives a damn crap????

  206. Tom says:

    After watching him miss with those pitches, how is Floyd still in?

  207. Pat D says:

    Gotta question Ventura or Cooper here for leaving this guy in to throw so many pitches in this heat.

    • Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

      Ventura must be from the Dusty Baker school of pitcher killing.

    • jjyank says:

      I’m no doctor/athletic trainer, but aside from dehydration concerns, wouldn’t the head help him keep loose? I always thought players were more at risk of pulling something or hurting themselves when it was cold.

      • Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

        It’s hard enough to just stand out in the sun for an hours or 2 in this heat. I can’t imaging how exhausting it must be to throw 120+ pitches on it.

        • jjyank says:

          I’m not saying it’s good, just didn’t think it would be that bad as long as he keeps hydrated. Seems like that’s the bigger hurdle.

          But yeah, Floyd seemed off today, and he should have been taken out earlier for that.

      • Pat D says:

        I’m no doctor, but I have this whip!

        Oh, and WebMD.com.

      • Tom says:

        His mechanics were shot though (which will increase the chance of doing damage to the arm)…. you could tell by the way he was missing up and to the arm side (especially against Wise) that his arm was dropping and his follow through wasn’t there.

      • RetroRob says:

        Generally speaking, the current thinking is fatigue is a greater indicator of arm injuries, less than pitch counts. Based on that, I’d be more concerned in this type of heat of a pitcher getting fatigued.

  208. jjyank says:

    Nice hit and run there.

  209. Pat D says:

    Were the hats that the Old Timers wore those 1912 throwbacks from earlier in the year, or were they something different?

  210. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Note: I wish I was named Leyson Septimo.

  211. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    AJ Pierzinski acting like a dick?

    Now I’ve seen it all.

  212. Mike N says:

    Weird shit between Floyd and Pierczyinski (sp?).

  213. flamingo says:

    I stepped away for a bit – but Hughes made it through seven only giving up the two first-inning runs? That’s pretty great.

  214. jjyank says:

    Wow Hughes. Way to right the ship after the first inning. This is why we don’t judge a start after one inning.

  215. http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2012

    Phil’s been pretty good since the beginning of May, not great, but he’s basically our fifth starter, and if your fifth starter can have a sub-4 ERA that’s not bad.

  216. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Trevor Plouffe has 18 homers after 2 more today.

    Where the hell did that come from?

  217. Ivan says:

    Great all around game by Hughes.

  218. flamingo says:

    Our Gold Glove first baseman.

  219. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    That’s a standing ovation type of performance for Hughes.

  220. Mike N says:

    OK. Hughes in the ninth? He’s at 106 pitches. Discuss.

  221. Tom says:

    Phil Hughes at 105 pitches

    Or as Don Cooper and Ventura would say…. good for another 2-3 innings.

  222. Ivan says:

    Great game Phil Hughes…..might even think bout making him pitch the 9th.

  223. RI$P FTW says:

    Cvm farts all around!
    High five me already!

  224. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:


  225. Mike N says:

    Hahahahaha. YOUK!

  226. The Scheister of Doom AKA The Troll Monger says:

    Tonight, we are young, without A-Rod in the line-up, we’re on fire…

  227. flamingo says:


  228. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

    At age 33, I can’t believe how shot Youkilis has become overnight

  229. jjyank says:

    Sa-wing and a miss Youk.

  230. The Scheister of Doom AKA The Troll Monger says:

    The umps zone has clearly opened up. I think it’s because of the swamp ass he’s experiencing.

  231. Robinson Tilapia says:


    • The Scheister of Doom AKA The Troll Monger says:

      I think it’s been for the past 17 innings, he’s looked cool as the other side of the pillow, despite the heat.

  232. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

    It’s been so nice around here the last 2 hours after the Yankees took the lead sans the troll squad.

    • jjyank says:

      I find it funny that no matter how well the Yankees are doing in general, if the other team takes the lead for just an inning or two, trolls feel the need to come out of the woodwork. The Yankees have been playing great baseball for awhile now. You’d think their fans would want to enjoy it.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        That’s what happens when you develop an opinion first and look for any little shred of evidence out there you can find to back it up.

      • Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

        I love how they surface as soon as the Yankees fall behind and disappear just as quickly when they take the lead.

        I wonder if they root for the Yankees to fall behind just so they have the opportunity to bitch.

      • Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

        I love how they surface as soon as the Yankees fall behind and disappear just as quickly when they take the lead.

        I wonder if they root for the Yankees to fall behind just so they have the opportunity to bitch.

      • Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

        I love how they surface as soon as the Yankees fall behind and disappear just as quickly when they take the lead.

        I wonder if they root for the Yankees to fall behind just so they have the opportunity to bitch.

      • Tom says:

        Why are so many people so eager to say where are the trolls?

        Can’t folks just be happy they aren’t here, rather than asking where they are?

  233. The Scheister of Doom AKA The Troll Monger says:

    STUART….!! Are you here?!?

    • jjyank says:

      No, he’s where he always is when the Yankees are winning: curled up in a corner somewhere in the fetal position.

      Besides, A-Rod isn’t playing. What would he have to talk about?

      • The Scheister of Doom AKA The Troll Monger says:

        I was hoping to hear a positive comment from him, the third baseman had a good game. Granted, not an Ike-Davis-like performance.

  234. Mike N says:

    Soriano’s coming in.

  235. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Your player of the game today is:

    1. Phil Hughes
    2. Robbie Cano
    3. Eric Chavez
    4. PAT KELLY!

  236. Tom says:

    It probably wouldn’t have mattered, and yes it’s a hot day… but doesn’t Wise have to attempt a steal at some point? It’s not like AJ is Johnny Bench back there.

  237. Need Pitching says:

    Jeter now sub-.300 AVG, I feel a hot streak coming soon

  238. Tom Q says:

    So, Phil Hughes + Beastly Hot Day = Homer-Happy Fiasco is another myth that bites the dust?

  239. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Michael Kay must be happy O’Neill only got to 18,000 followers on twitter

  240. Raul got caught with a foul ball in the jaw?!

  241. Tom says:

    TBS talking about the Yankee injuries?

    I’m confused I thought the Boston Red Sox were the only team in baseball that had to deal with injuries.

  242. Pat D says:

    Damn, Ibanez doesn’t even play the field and takes a ball to the chops.

  243. The Scheister of Doom AKA The Troll Monger says:

    Robin Ventura looks young than _____ Yankee players?

  244. Robinson Tilapia says:

    “Blorg says:
    July 1, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    I’m really hoping they trade for/sign Hamels so we won’t have see anymore of Hughes. He has his moments but more often than not he’s a disappointment and the weak link in the rotation.”

    I’ll assume Blog’s been mowing the lawn since about the second inning.

    • Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

      That was the 2nd best comment of the day next to the guy who gave up and left when it was 2-0

    • The Scheister of Doom AKA The Troll Monger says:

      Damn! I knew I was forgetting something today. For Stuart, this is Scheister signing out and gasing up the lawn mower.

  245. The Scheister of Doom AKA The Troll Monger says:

    Robin Ventura looks younger* than _____ Yankee players?

  246. Wow, Youk is so ugly. It’s even worse w/o a hat…

  247. Damnit MFIKY, never easy w/ you, is it?

  248. jjyank says:

    Kay: Soriano has been absolute NAILS.

  249. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    These Yankees are pretty damned good.

  250. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:


  251. Mike N says:


  252. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Shirttail out. Cock out. The Rafael Soriano way.



  253. Crime Dog says:


  254. jjyank says:

    That was a GREAT 0-1 pitch tom Ramirez.

    Also a great 0-2 pitch. Yankees win!!

  255. Ivan says:

    Great Win…

  256. Tom says:

    Good job by Soriano (well except the walk with 2 out and a 2 run lead… give up a solo shot if you have to – make the guy swing)

    Still don’t like the untuck shirt thing, but it is at least less obnoxious than some of the other antics of closers around baseball.

  257. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    This was an enjoyable game thread.

  258. Paul VuvuZuvella says:

    Need 714 comments.


  259. eephus_pitch says:

    Great game by Hughsie. I was worried about this game, to be sure.
    But Jeter did slide below .300, so I must get drunk like I promised.

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