Jul
31

Tuesday Trade Deadline Open Thread

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The trade deadline is 4pm ET today, and the Yankees will definitely be in the market for a fill-in third baseman with Alex Rodriguez on the DL with a broken bone in his hand. Mark Teixeira‘s wrist problem could spring them into further action as well, and pitching help — both rotation and bullpen — is always on the agenda. The Bombers are almost certainly done with the outfield market following the Ichiro Suzuki pickup, however. We’re going to keep track of any Yankees-related trade deadline rumors right here throughout the day, so check back often for updates. The latest will be on the bottom. Here are Sunday’s and Monday’s rumors if you missed them…

  • 10:00am: Teixeira’s injury should have no impact the team’s deadline plans, and the Yankees are still trying to acquire a defense-first type player for third base. Things are pretty quiet right now. [Ken Rosenthal]
  • The Yankees are focused on acquiring 40-man roster depth pieces, guys they can stash in Triple-A to cover for any injuries that pop-up down the stretch. [Joel Sherman]
  • Reports indicate that the Yankees have stepped up their pursuit of Ryan Dempster in the last 48 hours — lines up with when we learned about Andy Pettitte‘s setback, no? — but that has since been shot down. Dempster has 10-and-5 no-trade protection and seems hellbent on joining the Dodgers. [David Kaplan, Jon Heyman & Jayson Stark]
  • 12:34pm: There is still a “distinct possibility” the Yankees will acquire Ty Wigginton before the deadline. The Phillies are selling off all their movable pieces, with Shane Victorino headed to the Dodgers and Hunter Pence headed to the Giants. [Matt Gelb]
  • 12:56pm: The Yankees don’t believe Wigginton can handle third and are valuing defense at the position. A deal is said to be “highly unlikely.” Guys like him will get through waivers in August. [Sherman]
  • 2:03pm: The Yankees are “engaged in heavy discussions” with the Cubs about Dempster. I think this might be a case of the Cubbies trying to drive up the price for the Dodgers, but who knows. It’s worth mentioning that pitching coach Larry Rothschild knows the right-hander from his time in Chicago. [Bob Nightengale, Sherman & Rosenthal]
  • 2:14pm: The Dempster stuff is basically due diligence, the Yankees did their homework and expressed some level of interest yesterday. [Marc Carig]
  • 2:25pm: Dempster has told the Cubs that he will waive his 10-and-5 rights to join the Yankees because of his relationship with Rothschild and special advisor/former Cubs GM Jim Hendry. Chicago would have to kick in some money to facilitate a deal. [Heyman, Sherman & Sherman]
  • 2:29pm: The Cubs are said to like Angelo Gumbs and Dante Bichette Jr., but the Yankees are unlikely to part with them for a fifth starter upgrade. [Sherman & Sherman]
  • 3:12pm: Ownership has not been presented with any kind of financial information for a potential Dempster deal yet, so it doesn’t sound like anything is close as of right now. The commissioner’s office has to approve any trade involving more than $1M exchanging hands. [Sherman & Sherman]
  • 3:31pm: With less than a half-hour to go, the Dempster talks are still “nothing serious.” Either they’re going to scramble to beat the clock or the deal isn’t happening. [Carig]
  • 3:53pm: The Yankees “may” have acquired Dempster. No confirmation yet, however. [Jim Bowden]
  • 3:58pm: Scratch that, Dempster has been traded to the Rangers. [Buster Olney]

Reminder: Your trade proposal sucks.

  • JohnC

    Jon Heyman tweeted that there is no evidence of Yanks being connected to Dempster. Yanks could be trying to drive up the price for Rangers, who want Dempster

    • The Real Greg

      Or the Cubs could be doing it themselves, possibly taking a page out of the Mariners playbook.

    • Billy

      Don’t want Dumpster. He’s been a back of the rotation starter his whole career and that translates to a number 5 starter in New York. Would rather role Phelps out there than give up T.Austin or whoever Theo would want.

      • Ted Nelson

        I don’t particularly want him, but it’s just not true that he’s been a back of the rotation starter his whole career. He’s been mid-to-front end since 2008.

        • I Live In My Mom’s Basement

          But this would give them a rotation of Dumpster, Kurroded, Fill Huge, No Va, and CCCXX.

  • nacho

    Christmas in July.

    • Slugger27

      what is?

    • Nathan

      Not anymore. Look at last year as proof.

  • jsbrendog

    so if teix is out then swish to 1b, ichiro to rf and continuation of ibanones/jonez in lf. i can handle that for a short time while teix heals. it really doesnt make the team that much worse.

    • jjyank

      I would prefer this if the alternative is overpaying for someone in a trade, I think. I’m not going to freak out if the Yanks don’t get anyone (like many others surely will). This scenario is fine with me if replacements prove too cost prohibitive.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        The thing that worries me is the one who isn’t in the field is going to be DHing most likely, and neither can hit same side pitching worth a lick. We already have 2 black holes against LHP in who ever’s catching and Ichiro, then a third with Ibanez *gulp*(4 if you count Nix as a black hole [I do.])

        • jjyank

          Like I mentioned below, I would like to see a trade. I just would rather stand pat if the alternative is an overpay. If they can get a fair deal for an actual upgrade, go for it.

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            Meh, I’m really not a huge prospect hugger. If you can make a trade for a proven impact player (Upton, Headley, Choo, Dempster) for unproven minor leaguers…I think you have to make that deal every time.

            • jjyank

              I’m less bullish on Dempster, but I would definitely be willing to pay big for those guys. It’s the next tier down that I don’t view as a big enough upgrade to warrant the cost.

              • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                I’m not really huge on Dempster either, but that’s mostly because our pitching has been like really really good lately. If starting pitcher was a need though I’d be all over wanting him.

            • Bo Knows

              Dempster is not some elite player, I honestly doubt he’d be an upgrade over anyone they currently have (Phelps…cough…cough) It’s just making a move to make a move if they go for him.

              He’s not worth the cost; which would probably be more than a few of the top prospects.

            • Ted Nelson

              There’s a huge difference between hugging prospects and just saying you’d trade any group of unproven players for any player who has proven anything in MLB. Your stance is extreme and reads like it’s extremely out of touch with reality.

        • DM

          If you DL Tex, you could add Ronnier M to the LF/DH mix.

          • DM

            And you could drop Pena and promote Nunez for more offense (unless he’s traded some time today, of course).

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            I’d hate to be trusting a guy with 0 major league experience as the upgrade that is needed. If that’s the only move that’s made this is going to be one of the rare times that I will say Cashman had a bad deadline.

            • jjyank

              Whether or not he has a “bad deadline” is dependant on what the price tags were though, and we don’t know what they are.

            • DM

              Well, you could take a look if Tex seems short-term; Girardi seems fond of him, and all he does is hit and hit and hit. But it’s hard to slam Cashman if he can’t cover for the loss of Tex a few hours before the deadline.

              • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                It wouldn’t be just the loss of Tex a few hours before the deadline…It would be the loss of Alex almost a week before, our catcher’s inability to be even league average offensively, Our bullpen being full of nothing but match up guys, our DH tandum spending most of the season in the field, plus Tex maybe being hurt and doing nothing to help the team recover from that personnel wise.

                • DM

                  Maybe — but I’m sure Cashman has checked in on every player. If prices are sky high, and you have a significant lead, can you blame him? I think he does everything possible within cost parameters (prospects and $) to improve the team. I highly doubt he’s sitting back out of stubbornness or incompetence.

                  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                    I doubt it’s out of incompetence, I could see stubbornness though. He’s spent his entire career hearing “oh, anybody could be Yankee GM, all you have to do is write checks,” and he now has spent the last few years building a great farm system to prove to people he can be just as much a player development guy as anybody else. I could see him thinking to himself, “We have a huge lead, so I won’t look bad if I don’t make a huge splash, I mean we might not win the WS this year w/ this roster, but at least I get to keep all my prospects and push them to the MLs so everybody could see how awesome I am.”

                    • jjyank

                      Or maybe he wants to keep the prospects because he thinks they’re the key to contending under the $189 mil budget.

                    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                      I’m sure that’s also a reason, but in the back of his head it could be an ego thing. I’m not saying it’s the wrong move long term, but it could cripple our chance to win #28 this year.

                    • jjyank

                      Fair enough. It can’t be easy balancing a “win now” mentality with trying to be win in the future, all the while trimming payroll. Hard to say what the right moves are.

            • Ted Nelson

              The upgrade is not needed, though. Tex is not seriously injured. You’re trying to stick a square peg in a round hole. Making a long-term acquisition to fill and short-term hole doesn’t make a lot of sense.

              • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                There are long term holes/needs to varying degrees at Catcher, OF, and at least 1 infield spot.

                • Ted Nelson

                  The OF and IF needs are not ones they need to address short-term. They aren’t needs right now. Maybe something works out, but it’s not a need right now.

                  C is maybe the hardest position to acquire talent at, not to mention to value talent at. There is room for an upgrade and long-term solution, but they can’t just make good Cs appear.
                  And the Yankees have quite a bit of long-term depth there between Romine, Murphy, Sanchez, and Cervelli.

    • MannyGeee

      should they just call up Cust to “play” RF and hit balls very very far while they wait for Tex to heal? Can Cust cover 1B, at least at a Posada/Sheffield/Giambi-esque level?

      • MattG

        If Tex ends up on the DL, then Cust to DH, Swisher to first, Jones/Ibanez to platoon in left.

  • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

    If anything, Cashman just did some due diligence on Dempster. Cubs official may have made a leak to CSN that the Yankees were in to drive up price.

    Ultimately, I don’t see the Yankees doing much, if anything. Right handed corner infielder seems most likely.

    • MannyGeee

      “Yankees are involved” is the new black… drives up the cost like Scotch Guarding & Undercoating your new Hyundai!

  • Billy

    I admit that I have a mantasy on Mark Reynolds. Guy can play 1B/3B and would be very cheap to acquire.

    • Slugger27

      he can play 1b/3b in the sense that hes capable of standing at the point in the dirt where those positions typically stand, but then again so could i.

      also, he currently has a lower wRC+ than the great russell martin

    • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

      Ehhh…having a god awful season. Ks way too much. I know he’s got power but it hasn’t shown this year. Terrible fielder. O’s would probably ask for a little extra in division, and they’re trying to compete anyway.

      No interest here

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      I’m guessing a mantasy is the equivalent to a mancrush?

      • MannyGeee

        with a little more hand lotion, I would imagine.

    • Kosmo

      team him up with granderson for an open competition to see who K´s the most down the stretch.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    I’m not in full panic mode, but if Tex’s injury keeps him out for even a week, or like 15-day DL stint, that leaves our current line up with at least 5 of the following 7 guys: Nix, Chavez, Jones, Ibanez, Ichiro, Stewart, and Martin, starting everyday regardless of the handedness of the pitcher…I’m not ok with that.

    • jjyank

      I’d like to see a trade for an upgrade too, but I think I would rather roll with that than overpay for someone short of a major, major upgrade.

      Of course, if Cashman can get some other GM drunk and rob him blind (I’m looking at you, Kenny Williams), that’s even better.

    • Ted Nelson

      Trading valuable assets for a week doesn’t make much sense.

      • Klemy

        Nothing says it has to be over the week though. It can be over 2 months, where we have a big hole at C and 3rd.

        • Ted Nelson

          The comment I responded to was specifically about Tex being out.

  • AnthonyD

    I feel gross suggesting this – but if Cubs eat the whole contract, is Soriano a completely outrageous option (assuming Teix misses extended time and Swish can move to first)?

    • Darren

      DON’T FEEL GROSS. I would do this in a second and wouldnt make the Cubs eat the whole thing. We need a live bat I don’t car about Soriano’s inability to look for a walk. It’s overrated. You need to hit the ball in the playoffs, not just work out a walk. Other than Boggs’ PH walk, walks mean much less in the post season than in the regular season. Playoffs you have limited chances and need to get hits.

      • Rick in Philly

        What? That makes zero sense. I’d actually say walks INCREASE in importance. Walks increase a pitcher’s pitch count, can extend innings, and, most importantly, don’t result in an out.

        • MannyGeee

          all this said, if they are desperate to move Soriano and we know Teix is going to be out fo an extended period of time, I would make a move.

          If Teix is just going to be out for a few weeks however, that makes for a huge logjam of “I wish I had these guys in 2007″ type guys: Ichiro, Swisher, Granderson, Soriano & Ibanez…

          • OldYanksFan

            Can you believe Soriano is 36 years old now?
            I would look at him. He has averaged a 114 OPS+ over the last 3 years, so he is an above average bat, but far from elite. He is due (the balance of) $18m for this year, and $18m again in 2013 and 2014. Even if the Cubs pay 2/3rds of his salary, I’m not sure how that impacts the $189m payroll in 2014.

      • MattG

        Hmmm, it seems you think hits are the opposite of walks. Interesting…

        Its actually outs that are the opposite of walks. If walks are overrated, not making outs is so underrated, it’d need to be overrated to appear on the scale.

    • Klemy

      haha The scary thing is I actually had woke up this morning after having a dream this happened and had to quickly check the news to see if I was awake.

  • Guest

    dom brown scratched from AAA line up..BETANCES FOR BROWN…..ok maybe not :(

    • Reggie C.

      Might be getting called up for good finally. Hunter Pence is probably headed out of town.

    • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

      Stark tweeted that it sounds like hes going to DC

      • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

        Oops I should clarify, I misread Stark’s tweet. He’s heading to DC to join Phillies. Reggie you’re probably right about Pence.

        • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

          Or then again it could just be because of Victorino.

          • The Real Greg

            Its because of Victorino.

          • Slugger27

            i think that went without saying…..

      • The Real Greg

        No. He’s going to join the Phillies in DC because the Dodgers are close to getting Victorino from the Phillies.

  • The Real Greg

    Its difficult to say whether this recent slide of the Yankees is just the usual ebbs and flows of a season or if it is a harbinger of doom, especially when the emotion of a loss is gone, like with myself.

    I don’t know what Cashman will do.

    • Slugger27

      whatever he does, it will have little to do with the last 10 games.

      • jjyank

        This.

        • The Real Greg

          Well what do you think of this recent slide?

          • Slugger27

            that its a recent slide… 162 game season, theres going to be slides.

            the team doesnt have a lot of holes. utility infielder and catcher are the only 2 that come to mind. theyre already getting joba back. still have a huge division lead too.

          • jjyank

            It’s a slide. The team wasn’t going to play ~.700 ball all season like they were when they were hot. Trading for an upgrade in a fair deal is one thing, but GMs shouldn’t be making knee-jerk reactions based on a week and a half of underperformance.

          • JohnnyC

            Exposes their weakness against left-handers and lack of depth in the bullpen (too many OOGYs). Likely a bad stretch but there are some alarming signs. Cash can’t just lie back and enjoy the rest of the season.

            • Ted Nelson

              Are they weak against LHP? Most of their big platoon guys do better against LHP. Jones, Martin, Jeter, Tex, Nix…

          • Sweet Dick Willie

            It’s something all teams, even great ones, experience.

            Are you aware that the 1998 team lost 6 of 9 during a stretch in August?

            I shudder to think of the reaction had RAB been around back then.

            • Chris in Maine

              then again, they also clinched the division in August back in ’98

              • NYCSPORTZFAN

                ya, the 1998 team was just a tad diffrent then this one..lol

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        Unless tex also broke his wrist/hand and he pulls off a move for a starting 1st baseman…or a move for a starting 3rd baseman. Technically, those moves would only have happened because of what happened over the last ten games.

    • Ted Nelson

      The recent struggles are exclusively one run games… Which is a good sign that the Yankees are just fine. Run differential may be a bigger predictor of future success than record if I remember correctly.

      • MattG

        Yes, but, the Yankees Pythagorean record is a game worse than their real record, so, “Yay?”

  • Erica

    PHEWWWW

    Marc Carig ?@MarcCarig
    Teixeira has no structural damage in wrist

    • CountryClub

      Marc Carig ?@MarcCarig
      Teixeira will be reevaluated in 3 days. Had a cortisone shot for inflammation.

    • jjyank

      Awesome!

  • The Real Greg

    GOOD NEWS!

    Marc Carig tweeting that Tex has no structural damage in his wrist!

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      That is actually very good news. Does a sprain count as “structural damage” tough? Because I mean it’s not really breaking anything, but the pain from a sprain can linger for a long time and make it really hard to swing a bat.

  • Eddard

    Dumpster would be a waste. He’s not a top flight starter. If we’re going to get a starter it has to be top flight or it’s not worth it. We have other needs as well-

    Catcher that can hit
    3rd baseman to fill in for Alex
    1st baseman if Teix is down for a while
    Reliever to help the pen in one run games
    RH bat to replace Andruw Jones

    • CountryClub

      I’d be shocked if they get a catcher.

      Chavez might be best backup 3rd baseman in baseball. He’s brittle, but he’ll get plenty of days off vs lefties. Cross your fingers.

      Sounds like Teix is fine.

      Joba will be back this weekend.

      Another RH bat would be good. But Jones isn’t going anywhere (even if they do get one).

    • MattG

      While we’re replacing Jones, can we get another left handed bat to replace Cano?

      What’s that, my expectations are too high?

      • Slugger27

        cano’s a good hitter and all, but he’s no votto.

    • Smell What Johnny’s Kuck’ing

      Beckett (for free) and have him fill in the garbage man roll

  • Erica

    Victorino to the Dodgers. My Phillies fan friend is inconsolable, as that is her favorite player. Though, really, anyone who’s a Phillies fan needs to get that straightened out first.

    • jjyank

      That last sentence times one thousand.

    • MannyGeee

      wow, the Doyers are spending money like drunken sailors this year… I feel like they are only getting marginally better, and not sure if they’re getting enough to make a splash in October…

      • MattG

        it’ll be funny when they miss the playoffs altogether.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    I hear the Marlins were looking to unload Lee, I thought it might be a good idea…but damn. His power is just straight up gone. He has like a Jayson Nix level SLG% this year.

    • MannyGeee

      LOL @ the Marlins. They reeeeally are a disaster of a Front Office arent they. BUY BUY BUY…. no sell SELL SELLLLLLLLL!!

      You assholes say what you want about Cashman, go take a look at what is happening in Miami.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        They’re run like someone playing The Show.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          Nah, if they were run like me playing the show their line up would be:
          Jeter
          Granderson
          Hanely Ramirez
          Cano
          A-Rod
          Teixeira
          Montero
          Harper
          Gardner

          Rotation:
          CC
          Strasburg
          Hughes
          Nova
          Burnett (who is way too good in the show compared to RL)

    • Brian S.

      He’s a “good RBI man” though.

      • Slugger27

        well… he is.

  • CountryClub

    As we all know, the Yanks seem to have something going on when you hear almost no rumors about them. I won’t be shocked if they make some moves today. But I dont think it’ll be anything big because they clearly have no interest in taking on money past 2013.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    I’m going to paraphrase what I said in the Tex thread here, because I feel like it’ll get more views here, and I want to get people opinion as to if I’m being too much of a Negative Nancy. I’m glad Tex just has inflammation in his wrist, but let’s remember Gardner’s and Pineda’s injuries both started as “inflammation” in the forearm and shoulder, respectively. Now we won’t see BG all year, and there’s a chance we never see Pineda on a big league mound.

    • Ted Nelson

      You can’t just assume the worst on every single injury by going out and getting a long-term replacement every time someone hits the 15 day DL, though. It’s just not sustainable in any way. You wouldn’t have the roster spots to keep them all, never mind the financial implications.

  • The Real Greg

    This is to be taken very lightly and is probably not true.

    There is a rumbling on Twitter that the Yankees have picked up Vinnie Pestano from the Indians.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Who’s it from…like any legit source or just Joe Schmo with a Indians blog and Twitter?

      • The Real Greg

        It’s just a Joe Schmo. That’s why I said it’s probably not true.

        Don’t even know why I posted it.

        • Brian S.

          He’s one of the best relievers in the game with a ton of team control left. I would hate to see what we gave up for him if true.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          You never know dude. I agree with Brian…he’s been lights out, but would probably cost an arm and a leg, so I’m worried if it’s true.

          • MannyGeee

            i refuse to believe that with all the holes Cashman could fill and a NON OOGY being just 1 rung above “New Bat Boy” team needs, that Cashman opened the flood gates for Vinnie Pestano

  • Mikeymikeee

    Is Cargo available from the Rockies? I would empty the farm for that guy. He can be swishers replacement also.

    • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

      Check his splits away from Coors…I don’t believe they’re very good, although YS may be a good alternative for him

  • Brian S.

    Did the Blue Jays really trade Travis Snider for Brad fucking Lincoln?

    • The Real Greg

      Yep. Pirates got schooled, IMO. Brad Lincoln has been very serviceable for them. They should have gotten more for him.

      • Brian S.

        I was thinking the opposite. I know he struggled a bit earlier in his career but I thought Snider-Gose-Bautista was the outfield of the future.

      • Kosmo

        are you kidding ? a 27 yr old relief pitcher for a 24 yr old who still might have a tremendous upside. The Pirates are slowly assembling a very good team.

    • DM

      I think he’s arb eligible for 2013. That might’ve played a role, but I was surprised too. I’d take a chance on him; he’s still only 24.

    • JohnnyC

      We almost traded Cervelli for Lincoln last July. We could use Lincoln right about now.

      • Brian S.

        Yeah we could!

      • MannyGeee

        ironically, we could use Cervelli right now!

      • Kosmo

        You have that a little backwards, the Pirates said no thanks.

    • Ted Nelson

      Wonder if they think Lincoln can transition back to the rotation…

  • Jacob

    Torrealba>Stewart, that is all.

  • Athenian

    Dempster will have a better chance of staying in Chicago now that the Dodgers have acquired Victorino. This past weekend series against the Giants softened the need for Dempster.

    The Yankees getting Dempster, while useful, would be a waste of money and prospects. This team can’t hit, again, and is playing catch up way to often because of a line up build around to many streaky hitters. They need a spark in the form of a bat. Not an NL Central pitcher who will become Jeff Weaver in the AL East.

    • Sweet Dick Willie

      This team can’t hit,

      They how did they build a 7 game lead? Walks? Or errors by the opposing team?

      facepalm

      • MannyGeee

        mostly by pitching and fielding so well that it cost opposing offenses NEGATIVE runs in the field… kinda like football

        • Athenian

          +100 As MannyGeee said, it was pitching. During that stretch their starters were going deep, had just around a 2 ERA, and were limiting hits to singles or at least preventing additional runs.

          • Sweet Dick Willie

            Not dismissing their pitching and D, but they’ve scored the 4th most runs in the league.

            I haven’t looked it up, but I’m guessing those runs are the direct result of hits.

            • Ted Nelson

              But, we’re all doomed. Didn’t you know?

          • MannyGeee

            I was being sarcastic, the team was hitting the cover off the ball in May/June… but yeah, their pitching weas sick during that stretch.

    • MattG

      “…and is playing catch up way to [sic] often…”

      http://www.teamrankings.com/ml.....s-per-game

      • Athenian

        Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, just like runs scored, those numbers mean nothing in the larger picture. Numbers like that are inflated from large run scoring games – for example, Yankees score 5 runs in the first and not another run during the game. Next game they score 0 runs in the first inning and only a total of 3 for the game. Their first inning run total sits at 2.5. But do they consistently score 2.5 runs in the first inning, NO.

        My point was that they fell behind in Oakland, Seattle, and against Boston and then had to rally late only to come up short which is why they lost another 1 run game last night. You can’t use that link as valid proof to discount my comment when the team is being 1 hit or 2 hit and not scoring runs until the 5th inning or later, not against the average pitching they have been facing.

        • MattG

          It means no less than your ultimate declaration, supported by absolutely nothing.

          By the way, the Yankees scored pretty consistently in the first inning against the Red Sox, wouldn’t you say? Maybe you missed those games.

  • MannyGeee

    “They (Tigers) asked about Scott Hairston, but the Mets wanted one of the Tigers’ top five prospects in return.”

    ha… who knew Hairston would demand more in a trade than Hanley Ramirez

    • The Real Greg

      Mets are delusional.

      • MattG

        No, they were delusional. They are very much on the right track now.

  • Athenian

    Haven’t read through all this thread but what are the thoughts on Torrealba?

  • Chad Gaudin the Friendly Ghost

    In other news…

    The Dodgers have acquired every available MLB player in a trade. It seems they are planning on having a platoon at every position, an 8 man rotation, and a 10 man bullpen.

    • The Real Greg

      Shane Victorino
      Brandon League
      Hanley Ramirez
      and maybe Ryan Dempster.

    • NYCSPORTZFAN

      the dodgers are smart.. They realize there close this yr, and no one cares about next yr. Smart work by the dodgers.. Most of the propsects they gave up will probably end up being just ordinary players or worse…

      U people worry to much about prospects.. These guys rarley work out.. Dellin Betances can’t even pitch consistently in the minors for godsake..

  • MattG

    The only player I’ve heard whispered (not to the Yankees, just whispered at all) that has appeal for me is Choo. That guy would look so good in a Yankee uniform.

    Although I am in no hurry to show Swisher the door, and with Ichiro, any chance for Choo probably sailed.

    Headley surely has appeal, but it’s a bad fit. Relief pitchers? I’m pretty sure that’s what 17th rounds in the draft are for. Catchers…I would’ve liked Kottaras…not exactly sexy…

    This is boring.

  • Robert

    Ken Rosenthal just tweeted this “They (#Dodgers) were really hunkered down last night. I was told they were told, ‘Damn the money. Make the club better.'” Too bad the Yankees ownership doesn’t have this view.

    • Brian S.

      The Yankees started out with almost 100 million dollars more payroll than the Dodgers did.

    • jjyank

      The Yankees already have the highest payroll in baseball…pretty sure they do have that general view.

    • MannyGeee

      nevermind having the highest payroll in the league for the past decade… this “Yankees spend no moneyz!!1!1″ narrative will do nicely for today, thanks!

      • MattG

        I was thinking, never mind that spending money is not at all strongly correlated to making the team better. Who, that is available, makes the Yankees better?

        Cliff Lee, I suppose…

  • DERP

    Pence to SF

    • Athenian

      Shierholtz will be traded or dfa. Will Yankees bite?

      • Brian S.

        I don’t see why he would want to be traded to a team that bites him.

        • jjyank

          Haha nice one.

        • Athenian

          That was a funny one. Well done.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Pence is a Giant, in case anybody is interested…I guess they had to make at least one move while the Dodgers are some how trading for any and every available player.

    • MannyGeee

      not a Pence fan… he doesnt do it for me.

      • Brian S.

        Well he’s white, wears high socks, doesn’t wear batting gloves, and chokes up on the bat. Every team needs some grit like that.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          Dude…all that is like a +15 Grittiness Factor. Most players grade out at a +5 if they’re lucky.

  • jjyank

    Aaaand Pence is a Giant now.

    • jjyank

      “However, at this moment Giants VP Bobby Evans tells Andrew Baggarly of CSNBayArea.com there is “no deal” and the team is “working through many options.”

      Via MLBTR. So maybe not Pence to SF?

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        an agreement has been reached on players and the deal is pending physicals

        mlbtr…I guess it’s official now.

  • Brian S.

    I have a question. If the Yankees were to offer A-Rod a one year, league minimum extension to reduce his AAV but then came out and said “we wanted to give A-Rod more time to chase the record!” would the league buy it? Or would even one year be seen as blatant luxury tax circumvention?

    • MannyGeee

      if we’re not buying it, lord knows the League is gonna see through that line of bullshit!

      • MannyGeee

        that said, I wonder if they can “extend” (re-structure) the contract to add something like 2 club options on the end for like $1M each, and when Selig signs off on it…. BOOM! pick them up, or some other shadyness like that

        • Brian S.

          How much is the AAV of his contract anyways? 27.5?

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        Is there really anything the league could do though? I mean the Players Association probably would chastise Alex for doing it, but could they even block it?

        • Brian S.

          I’m not sure the players would care. It would be the owners that get less Yankee money.

        • MattG

          Bud Selig can do whatever he wants, yes. He would void the contract. The Yankees, or probably more likely Alex, would have to take him to court.

        • jjyank

          I don’t know for sure, but I would think Selig and Co. would find a way to block such blatant circumvention of the luxury tax.

        • Fernando

          The team could restructure the contract by turning his bonuses into guaranteed money and extending the years. They could easily argue with A-Rod’s injuries lately that this isn’t a cirumvention of the tax. I believe Mike mentioned something like this earlier as a way of lowering his AAV and removing the uncertainty of when the bonuses might vest.

        • MannyGeee

          The league can block it for trying to circumvent the Luxury cap… I thought.

  • The Real Greg

    Beginning to hear that Wigginton is a distinct possibility.

    • Brian S.

      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Jayson Nix>Wiggington. Not even joking.

    • Slugger27

      what source?

      • The Real Greg

        Multiple sources are stating it on Twitter. A Phillies guy started it. Not really a Schmo.

        • Erica

          But KIND OF a schmo.

          • Brian S.

            An ultra-schmo.

            • Erica

              Uber-schmo?

              • jjyank

                This one.

                • Erica

                  Yay.

                  • Brian S.

                    The omni-schmo.

                    • jjyank

                      We must all be bored.

                    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                      Alpha-Schmo.

                    • jjyank

                      Beta-Schmo?

                    • Erica

                      ZETA-(jones)-schmo.

                      Oh what now.

              • Kosmo

                Unter-schmo

                • The Real Greg

                  Mega-schmo

                  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                    I agree with JJ, we all must be incredibly bored.

                    Omega-Schmo.

                    • TomH

                      hyperschmo

                    • jjyank

                      Schmoboo!

                    • Brian S.

                      The Schmona Lisa.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Ty Wigginton? *vomit’s in mouth a little* No thank you.

    • jjyank

      Yep. Pass. If the Yanks make a trade, I hope it’s for an actual upgrade.

      • Get Phelps Up

        Wigginton is probably a downgrade.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Not over Ramiro.

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            Something tells me that if Wiggy (Joe G’s nickname comes built in this time) becomes a Yankee he will see a lot more playing time than Ramiro would’ve/will.

          • Brian S.

            Brandon Laird is probably better than Wigginton.

            • Brian S.

              He IS better than Wigginton. Ty has a 79 wRC+ and terrible defense for a whopping -0.8 fWAR.

            • Get Phelps Up

              The Yankees have lots of internal options that are better than Wigginton.

              • Slugger27

                but brandon laird isn’t one of them.

                • Get Phelps Up

                  Laird in AAA: .324 wOBA, 98 wRC+
                  Wigginton in MLB: .292 wOBA, 79 wRC+

                  • Kosmo

                    Laird vs Lefties:
                    .311 Ave.
                    37-119
                    7 HR
                    23 RBI
                    .354 OBP
                    .563 SLG
                    .917 OPS

                    that would be a damn good platoon with Chavez if Laird could keep it up in the bigs.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      That’s a mighty big “if.”

                      Not saying Wiggy’s the answer, but I’m not willing to take the chance on Brandon Laird being it in the stretch run either. I’d keep Nix if that was the case.

                  • Slugger27

                    hes sucked for what? 1100 ABs in AAA? ill give wiggy the benefit of the doubt and say hes having a down year. i trust him to hit better at the ML level the rest of the year than i do laird.

                    obviously, i dont want either to get meaningful ABs, so hopefully it doesnt matter.

  • http://Riveraveblues Austinmac

    Wigginton sounds like a new Yankee type deal if the Phil’s kick in money.

    • Erica

      But no!

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Wigginton’s wRC+ is lower than Nix’s, Laird’s @ AAA, and only 9 points better than Pena’s at AAA…pass.

  • DZ

    how are the yankees not in on shoppach

    • The Real Greg

      You actually think the Red Sox would let them in?

    • Get Phelps Up

      Because he’s with the Red Sox.

    • JohnnyC

      Red Sox don’t trade with Yankees.

      • DZ

        It’s not like a major deal, it’s a backup catcher… and lets be honest, the rivalry has kind of stalled lately.

        • Slugger27

          the rivalry has kind of stalled lately.

          what planet are you on? its not earth.

          • JohnnyC

            Valentine just said that he didn’t think the Yankees were a lock to win the division and you think the rivalry has stalled?

            • JohnnyC

              Meant to reply to DZ.

        • Erica

          How has the rivalry stalled? We watch the same games, I think.

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            Meh, I don’t care about Boston, just because they’re a last place team. They are just about a zero threat to us in the Division, the Trade Market, in anyway. Do I still hate all of their faces? Yeah. But there’s no real venom behind that hate.

            • Slugger27

              1) theyre not in last place

              2) the difference between where they are and 2nd place in the east is 2 games.

              the term “last place” is all relative. theyre 2 games behind the orioles (who are in 2nd) and they have a superior roster to baltimore. i consider the red sox the yankees biggest threat to win the division. even if i didnt, the rivalry hasn’t stalled. the red sox helping the yankees out at the deadline would be impossible to sell to sox fans strictly because of said rivalry.

            • Widget

              Hate without venom is like coke with no rum. What’s the point?

              • jjyank

                Haha true that.

            • Erica

              They’re still a pain in our collective ass and I think it’s valid to say that the rivalry is still alive.

              Don’t you think the Eagles (ew) and the Giants would still be rivals, even if the Eagles had about half the prominent players they do now? And weren’t doing well?

              I’d like to think that our rivalry with the Red Sox is as much a part of the Yankees tradition as anything else, even if it’s not our main “worry,” so to speak.

              • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                The Eagles could be a perennial one win team and I’d still hate them. But that’s because fans of Philadelphia sports teams make Boston fans look docile and like not douche bags.

          • MattG

            Youkilis, Varitek, and Epstein all gone, team in last place. Hatred, receding.

            Lucchino, Ortiz are still there. Hatred, rising.

  • 28 in 2012

    Soto to the Rangers for nothing. I hoped ninja would have made that kind of a deal for him. Definitely a buy low candidate. Texas did well here. Change of scenery may get him over the Martin line.

  • tyrone sharpton

    hunter pence to SF. damn the package phillie is getting back is a lot weaker than the one they gave houston. yay amaro

    • CUYanks

      They used up a year of his team control. What do you expect, an equal package?

    • Slugger27

      well, he had more value last year than he does now.

  • The Real Greg

    I just feel that they aren’t going to do anything. Hope I’m wrong.

    • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

      What’s there to do that’s going to make them that much better? All indications say that any move would be minor. Unless we get blindsided by some blockbuster, even a trade for a right handed third baseman with some pop won’t change the season outcome drastically.

  • Hoss

    Need bullpen. Logan is following Wade on Girardi’s Toast Parade. Eppley and Rapada may not be far behind. Qualls has been pitching on fumes since he arrived. Joba may, or may not, be the solution. It would be nice to pick up someone who has not been abused through the first half of the season.

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    PREDICTION: Nothing happens. Yankees are getting Joba back extremely soon and Andy and A-Rod back in September. So Cashman trusts they could hold the fort until then.

    • 28 in 2012

      Very very bullish outlook. please be right.

    • Rocky Road Redemption

      I’m also guessing that Cashman assumes we’ll be getting Tex back too.

  • The Real Greg

    As I predicted a day or two ago, nothing much is happening all over.

    Only the Phillies and Cubs are selling off.

  • Mark L.

    You would have thought that the success with Hinske and Hairston would have demonstrated to Cashman the value of midseason reinforcements.

    • Comrade Al

      Hinske = Chavez, Hairston ~ Nix. No need.

    • 28 in 2012

      Kerry Wood and Lance Berkman also say hello.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Wood did great. Berkman did better than we all seem to remember, even me.

        • Get Phelps Up

          Berkman was a beast in September and the playoffs.

  • Mark L.

    Oh, and Cashman may want to do something about the fact that our LHRP suck now.

  • CUYanks

    Any thoughts on Carlos Lee? We are desperately lacking in right handed bats, but at this stage in his career he doesn’t offer that much power and little defensive value.

    • Comrade Al

      Beating a dead horse?

      • CUYanks

        Oh, did we address this in an earlier post? If so, sorry. Didn’t get a chance to read through them all.

  • Troll Hunter

    Cash is chillin right now.

    • Erica

      He’s a ninja. We don’t actually know…

      • MannyGeee

        ninja’s rarely ‘chill’… he is actually trolling the “MLB General Managers Trade Forum” page on Facebook…

  • Davey Vecchia

    No Trade = No WS this year…

    • 28 in 2012

      So who in your opinion is going to tip that scale?

      • MannyGeee

        obviously Joe Mauer and Cliff Lee circa 2009. And Johan as your LOOGY

    • Sweet Dick Willie

      What are the lottery numbers this week?

    • Bunt Gardner

      So you would consider someone as nominal as Ty Wigginton as a WS difference maker?

  • Tony

    I think the Yanks should pursue alfonso soriano. They really need a right-handed batter

    • Comrade Al

      Slider – strike three!

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        Slider swing and a miss strike three! There I fixed it for you.

        In all seriousness though, I wouldn’t mind Alfonso’s return to the Bronx if we gave up next to nothing, and they ate all but the smallest fraction of his contract.

        • Hoss

          Could you see the Cubs giving up Marmol to dump Soriano?

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            Maybe. I wouldn’t touch Marmol with a ten foot pole though.

            • Hoss

              I would definitely be interested in Marmol. He had a rough start but has showed signs of returning to form. Can hold on to him down the stretch and trade him as closer during off-season.

      • Troll Hunter

        A slider 2 feet off the plate

    • Slugger27

      ideally, a GOOD right handed batter.

      oh well back to the drawing board.

    • Hoss

      Agreed. He can play IF as well as Wiggington, for sure…

  • Tony

    I kno he strikes out alot but he is batting 274 so he’s not hit or miss

  • The Real Greg

    Buster Olney tweeting that the D-Backs are working on something big.

    Mentions the Cubs could be involved and Garza and Upton.

    This mat seem crazy, but somebody else on Twitter suggested a 3 team trade with the D-Backs getting Garza, the Yanks getting Upton, and the Cubs getting prospects from both teams

    • Knoxvillain

      Stupid for the D’Backs. Really fucking stupid. Garza is a good pitcher but for Justin Upton? Not happening. Unless the Cubs include Starlin Castro, and that’s not gonna happen either.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Greg…great minds think alike.

    • vin

      “This mat seem crazy, but somebody else on Twitter suggested a 3 team trade with the D-Backs getting Garza, the Yanks getting Upton, and the Cubs getting prospects from both teams”

      So is that a source, or just food for thought?

      • The Real Greg

        No, A Yankee fan on Twitter, Steve Turner, suggested this proposal. It was a suggestion by him.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          so food for thought.

          • The Real Greg

            Yeah. But then Olney tweeted that the D-Backs were working on something big and he mentioned Garza and Upton as possibilities

            • MannyGeee

              I dont think Upton is now a need.

    • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

      I said it somewhere else in this thread, but the D-Backs aren’t going to give up prospects and Upton, and just get Garza back. They would need additional prospects in return, not dealing any.

  • Erica

    Doo doo doo… I hate waiting.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    For whatever reason Arizona is looking for an ace pitcher…for them Garza is an ace. Time for my crazy(and probably terrible) trade proposal: Banuelos, Warren, Nunez, and one of Austin/Williams to the Cubs, Garza to Arizona, and Justin Upton to the Yankees.

    • Knoxvillain

      Yes…Yes… But it won’t happen.

    • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

      Garza alone wouldn’t be enough for AZ in return for Upton, IMO

      • The Real Greg

        What if we sent Swisher and/or Wise with him to Arizona

        • Get Phelps Up

          What on earth would they want Wise for?

          • MannyGeee

            why, for season changing bunts, of course!

        • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

          No way…Swish is a FA and Wise isn’t good overall, they wouldn’t want that. We’re talking serious prospects to AZ to give up Upton

    • Erica

      Why do we want Upton?

      • Knoxvillain

        Why not? Upton in RF, Granderson in CF, Ichiro in LF. That’s a great outfield. Swisher at DH. Cut Pena.

        • Erica

          Oh I’m not opposed, but I just didn’t know anything about him to say “yea” or “nay.”

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        He’s young, cost controlled, two years removed from being an MVP canidate. He can play all three outfield positions, pushing Ichiro to an off the bench type person, as well as making sure that the Ibanez/Jones duo don’t touch a glove for the rest of the season. Also, if Swisher chooses to walk this offseason, his everyday replacement is already on the team.

        • Erica

          Hmmmmm… he can even give Grandy a day off once in a while…

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            He could but me saying he “can play all three outfield positions” is a little bit of a stretch. He’d best suited as a corner outfielder, but his athletic ability could allow him to fake CF once every couple weeks. Grandy’s athleticism has been allowing him to fake CF for a few years anyway.

          • MannyGeee

            Ichiro can give Granderson a day off too, you know

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Really young. Really good. Not every day a guy like that becomes available. Question is why is he even supposedly available.

        • Erica

          Thank you. I don’t know much about him, so that helps!

        • MannyGeee

          all signs point to “character issues”.

          • Brian S.

            If he was white then people wouldn’t think he had “character issues.”

            • JonS

              He’d just be crazy.

    • Brian S.

      CC for Kennedy and Upton.

  • Gonzo

    Surprised by all the Brandon Laird love on this thread.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      for me at least it’s more Wiggy hate than Lairdy love.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I don’t necessarily hate Wiggy, but I also probably fit Axisa’s description of living in 2005 when it comes to him.

        If I was stuck on a desert island with both of them, and had to kill one of them, I’d still probably put the bullet in Brandon.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          they’re both horridly ugly. If I was in that situation, no chance of being rescued…I’d use the one bullet on myself.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            They can’t all be Jeter.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      You’re not going to hear it from me. That’s for sure.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Still on a massive writing kick for work, but I’ll play along.

    No one who I really thought was a fit has been moved yet. Still think the Yankees make some minor moves, although nothing would surprise me.

    My own wish list remains the same: Upgrade over Nix at the corners, overgrade over Stewart behind the plate. I guess a reliever could be added given recent struggles, but that’s third on my list.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    How much I’m concerned about the trade deadline: I’ve let Etrade log me out twice for lack of updating the page, I haven’t been on cracked.com at all today, nor tumblr. My store also got a shipment right as I got in this morning, I still haven’t bothered to check it or call ownership to let them know it arrived. I also raced off the phone with a wholesaler because I didn’t give a shit what he was talking about.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Plouffy’s index finger is now three inches shorter from hitting “reload” on MLBTR so much.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        Haha, it’s true. I don’t have a twitter, so I get all my trade rumor info from MLBTR.

    • jjyank

      Haha I’ve been mad short with my customers today as well.

      • Erica

        Yeah, I’m not focusing on my work. Not even a little. The world can go on without my contributions until 4pm.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I have a proposal to the state that I need to help finish up writing by tonight, and here I am.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          My thoughts exactly. One hour and 52 minutes remaining…still nothing.

  • mike_h

    Suprised Cashman hasnt made a move for Bill Hall, he’s on the Norfolk Tides AAA team. He could play 2B, 3B, LF, and CF in an emergency. Its exactly what we need

    • Knoxvillain

      They already have him. His name is Jayson Nix and he’s better.

  • The Real Greg

    Steve Gilbert being told the D-Backs are not working on a deal with the Cubs.

    • The Real Greg

      MLB Trade Rumors said that Olney was speculating. That didn’t sound like speculation.

      • Knoxvillain

        It probably was. Olney sucks. Just like Kurkjian.

        • Erica

          On the other hand, @TrippingOlney is quite informative.

          • Knoxvillain

            I wouldn’t even know. Never visited Twitter one time in my life. MLBTR is everything you need, just two minutes late.

            • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

              Yay! I’m not alone on the twitter hate.

              • jjyank

                I’m there too. I have vowed to never open a twitter account.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  Erica’s silence here is defeaning.

            • JohnnyC

              MLBTR trawls the Twitter seas for a lot of its breaking news. So…same difference.

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    Remember guys: Swishalicious is also a first baseman. So if we get an outfielder we also effectively get a replacement first baseman for Tex since in this scenario we can simply slip Swisher to first base.

    An outfielder definitely still makes sense, even with the Ichiro signing.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I don’t think anything is going with Tex, though, that would necessitate an extended shift for Swisher. I still think finding a UTL who can handle the corners and offers more than Nix would be the bigger need.

    • Knoxvillain

      Tex is fine and I wouldn’t call Swisher a first baseman. He can play first, but he’s an outfielder.

      • Rocky Road Redemption

        I think Tex is probably fine but we don’t know that.

        Anyway, Swishy was a 1b before he came to the Yanks, so I don’t see any reason he can’t hold the fort there now.

  • Erica

    We should sign Posada to be a backup infielder.

    /trolling

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Matsui was released, we should sign him.

      /it’s still 2009 right?

      • Erica

        Who?

        We can sign this tall dude Paul O’Neill!

        /1992’d

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          Fuck it, get the TARDIS going. I’m going back in time and stealing Paulie off of the 98 Yankees. After the season I’ll bring him back to right after when I took him. I’ll also grab Tino.

          • Erica

            Can you get 1999 Jeter, so we can have 1999 Jeter and 2012 Jeter in the same lineup?

            • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

              I could…but we’d have to get rid of 2012 Jeter. If they were to ever meet it would be a Paradox, causing a hole to rip in the timespace continuum. If that were to happen, all of time would stop, and eventually deteriorate into nothingness.

              /time travel nerd.

              • Erica

                They can exist alongside each other. They can. They can.

          • Knoxvillain

            No El Duque? Are you tarded?

        • vin

          He was acquired via trade.

          • Erica

            Yes, I know, but we are all bored and antsy here.

            • The Ghost of Joe Dugan

              Yes, I know, but we are all bored and ANSKY here.

              Fixed!

      • Get Phelps Up

        Banuelos to the Indians for Johnny Damon.

    • Rocky Road Redemption

      YEEEEEEEAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!1!!!!!!1!!

  • The Real Greg

    Verducci saying that the Cubs have disengaged with the Dodgers about Dempster and are now talking to the Yankees and “THE MYSTERY TEAM”

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      I don’t want Dempster :( our starting pitching is good enough as it is. I really think an offensive upgrade is what’s really needed.

      • Cris Pengiucci

        Yeah, I agree, but the 2 are not mutually exclusive. Both could be done.

    • Knoxvillain

      Murphy and Betances should be enough.

      • Brian S.

        Murphy has discovered his power stroke in AA. I don’t want to trade him in case Romine ends up hitting like Stewart.

        • Knoxvillain

          He hasn’t played that many games. He’s like a career .270 hitter in the minors with no power. He’ll be nobody, just like Betances.

          • Brian S.

            “.270 hitter” doesn’t mean anything without context. He currently has a .216 ISO in AA and has hit at every level except for High-A Tampa. I wonder if Tampa is a pitcher’s environment?

            • MartinRanger

              From what I recall that league IS generally pitcher friendly.

              • Brian S.

                Ramon Flores must be a beast.

          • Ted Nelson

            Yeah, because there are so many great hitting Cs out there. Chances are every prospect who is not truly elite will be nobody… but that doesn’t mean they have no value.

    • Cris Pengiucci

      Dempster for Sweaty Freddy! (Almost) Pure salary dump for Chicago.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      “No one is copping to it on the Yankees’ side” that means you know it’s happening too.

      • The Real Greg

        Rosenthal saying the Yankees HAVE contacted the Cubs about Dempster.

    • jjyank

      The mystery team is Randy Levine.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        He’s offering Dempster a 5 year 100mil extension on his current contract to come to the yankees, not realizing Ra’s Al Ghul is the guy he’s being put on hold for.

        • jjyank

          Hahaha.

          This is the most likely scenario, I believe.

        • Erica

          Who is Melanie Tate in this situation?

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            The love child cashman had with his mistress.

            • Erica

              Bazinga

              • Alkaline

                Batman and BBT posts in one conversation. +1

                You guys make work fun.

      • Knoxvillain

        Great, so the Cubs can choose between a B and a C prospect from the Yankees, or the same thing from Levine and Dempster gets his 3/45.

      • vin

        Nice.

  • NYCSPORTZFAN

    Aramis Ramirez and Ryan Dempster would make for a monster trade day, eY?lol

    • Brian S.

      Aramis Ramirez has a terrible contract.

      • MannyGeee

        Cashman collects bad contracts like Topps Bubble Gum cards.

      • Luisergi

        Ramirez plays for Milwakee… i think.

        • Brian S.

          Indeed he does. And he is going to make over 10 mil the next two seasons and is old as dirt.

        • Luisergi

          *Milwaukee

    • The Real Greg

      Where are you getting Aramis Ramirez from?

      • MannyGeee

        Chicago, obviously!

  • The Real Greg

    I checked this earlier. Dempster was pretty good in interleague play.

    Now Rosenthal saying that the Yankees HAVE contacted the Cubs about Ryan Dempster.

    • The Real Greg

      Anyway, Dempster went 2-1 in interleague.

      He threw scoreless starts against the Twins and Red Sox, but gave 4 runs in 6 innings against the White Sox.

  • CountryClub

    Ken Rosenthal ?@Ken_Rosenthal
    Sources tell me and @jonmorosi that #Yankees have indeed contacted #Cubs about acquiring Dempster. Teams not talking seriously – yet.

    • CountryClub

      Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS
      #yankees & #cubs have had 1 conversation about dempster. RD still wants LAD. if that doesnt work, he MIGHT consider

  • Brian S.

    Does Cashman think Dempster is going to maintain his .242 BABIP all season long? Our defense sucks.

    • Ted Nelson

      Dempster has averaged over 3 fWAR for 5 seasons now…

      • Brian S.

        I know he’s good. But he’s not as good as his ERA has been this year. I just hope that if Cashman acquires him it’s not equal to what the Angels gave up for Grienke.

        • Ted Nelson

          I don’t want them to give up a top prospect for him, either (which probably means I don’t want them to deal for him). I have no doubt that Cashman is looking beyond ERA, though. And beyond BABIP.

        • DM

          The Yankees might be their last option to trade him if LA falls through — so they don’t have much leverage. And Dempster might approve a deal to NY b/c of his connection to Rothschild (and a chance to win, of course).

  • The Real Greg

    Basically what it is is that we are the backup if the Dodgers don’t bite.

  • Nathan

    I think since last year Cash hasn’t really signed anyone to any significant contracts…they’ve been the bargain bin type additions like Ibanez, Martin, and Jones types.

    With that said, I think Cash does nothing in the next hour and x minutes. The Yankees have effectively been handcuffed by the luxury tax.

    • Get Phelps Up

      I think since last year Cash hasn’t really signed anyone to any significant contracts

      Kuroda?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        How quickly everyone forgets the Yankees handed out the fourth* largest pitching contract in baseball history this winter.

        * Sixth now after Cain and Hamels.

        • MannyGeee

          didnt count because CC is not a ‘true ace’…

          • Robinson Tilapia

            ….or because no one went and chopped Hughes’s hands off so that he could no longer pitch.

      • jjyank

        Does Pettitte count?

        • Get Phelps Up

          I’d absolutely count him. It doesn’t have to be a huge contract to be significant.

        • Athenian

          No because Suzyn Waldman did not have the proper meltdown on air as she did with Roger Clemens.

          • Erica

            That will never get old. EVER.

    • Athenian

      that’s what $20 mil contracts for declining years gets them. The real question is have they learned a lesson? When Cano get a 10 yr deal, the answer will clearly be no. Then they will have another $20 mil player that limits their mobility for years to come.

      • Ted Nelson

        It gets them a commanding lead in 1st place and a team with no significant holes? Interesting.

        • Athenian

          They have and had a commanding lead. Starting pitching has not been the issue, it is the streakiness of the home run first line up + injuries + reverting to hitting like they did in May.

          Dempster is not worth even Bichette Jr.

          • Ted Nelson

            I’m very confused.

            What does any of this have to do with $20 million + contracts?

            All line-ups are “streaky.” The Yankees are still scoring the 5th most runs in MLB, and are in easy striking distance of 1st with tons of time left.

            The Yankees have the 3rd highest OBP in baseball. Their BA even is all of .008 out of 3rd place in MLB.

      • Hoss

        Cano, a 10-year deal? Hahaha!!! I cannot wait to see how slowly he runs out grounders in 2022. Only then it will be because he doesn’t have the legs.

        • Athenian

          I am on board with you. Just vomiting what Boras stated – that a 10 yr deal gets you the best 7.

          • Hoss

            Boras is a putz. Cano can walk. Everyone is replaceable. The latest untouchables to be traded in the past week: Hanley Ramirez and Hunter Pence. When Cano busts his ass like Jeter and uses his great talent then we can consider a long-term (i.e. add’l 5-6 year contract). Otherwise, I wouldn’t go beyond 4 in addition to the Yankees’ option year next year, which essentially gives him 5.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      The Yankees just don’t don’t do things the way they used to in the magical land that exists in my head.

      • Athenian

        Perhaps they should “Weekend at Bernie’s” The Boss in a conference room just to scare the hell out of everyone. Seriously, I want to agree that they don’t, but there was the ARod signing, the pending Cano signing… and a thin farm system at AAA.

      • Adam

        I know! Big Stein used to fart and a superstar player would come out.

        Of course sometimes there was the occasional shart and Ken Phelps or Andy Hawkins would mysteriously arrive…

  • MannyGeee

    I hate the thought of Dempster on this team. seems…. pointless

    • JobaWockeeZ

      3.41 FIP and a 3.71 xDIP, a fuck of an upgrade over everyone’s favorite in Phil Hughes.

      • MannyGeee

        I had a whole reply to this, but I will just walk away and tip my hat to you on your almost sucessful trolling…

        • JobaWockeeZ

          Troll or not he’s a better pitcher than Phil Hughes.

          • Brian S.

            And Nova. And Freddy. A playoff rotation of CC-Kuroda-Pettitte-Dempster would be damn good.

          • MannyGeee

            OK, ‘not troll’… play out the scenario. What do they do with that shit bag Hughes when the savior rolls into town?

            • JobaWockeeZ

              Hughes will be the 5th starter and when playoffs come relegated to mid relief in the bullpen.

              • MannyGeee

                and Garcia, whos been pretty good? and Phelps, whos been damn good? Whos roster spot does he get?

                • JobaWockeeZ

                  If you want to save Freddy Garcia over Ryan Dempster then there’s nothing I can do to convince.

  • The Real Greg

    Coming in hard and fast

    Accodring to Marc Carig, the Yanks did their homework on Dempster and expressed some level of interest yesterday.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      TWSS

  • The Real Greg

    Another thing to consider. Jim Hendry and Larry Rothschild are on the Yankees staff.

  • Marcy

    So maybe they trade for Dempster, flip him to LA (like he wants) for something the Yanks want because Ryan Dempster — I just can’t see it – unless his ex-pitching coach and ex-GM have talked Cash into it because they can’t flip him anywhere he doesn’t want to go. Has a home in AZ but would he want to pitch there? Maybe his ex-guys would know-

    • MannyGeee

      can they flip him from the Yankees to anywhere since he would no longer have 10-5 rights? interesting….

      • Athenian

        I would guess that waiving his 10-5 rights would be contingent on being flipped. Would have to be part of the discussion, I’d think.

  • jjyank

    I want MOAR TRADEZ! Come on MLB, I’m bored.

    • Erica

      SRSLY THO, make this lackadaisical workday worth it!

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      I still think the yankees should http://i.imgur.com/jGT1l.png

      • jjyank

        Hahaha!

      • Erica

        LOLS!

  • Karim Garcia

    Horrific thoughts of Ryan Dempster walking 7 batters in the 2008 NLDS

  • CountryClub

    Anybody think Cash is doing Theo a favor here? Word is that Yanks will get involved only if the Dodgers trade falls apart. So maybe Cash allowed this info to leak to put pressure on Dodgers to complete the trade? Why? Who knows. Maybe Theo repays the favor at a later date. Just a thought.

    • Ted Nelson

      Or the Yankees don’t want to bid against the Dodgers and only want to get involved if they are the only bidder Dempster will allow a trade to. Or the rumor is a lie.

  • The Real Greg

    Jon Heyman saying that Dempster WILL agree to a Yankees trade.

  • Athenian

    Why would the Yankees want a player forced to take a trade? I don’t like this Dempster deal at all. He cannot handle the AL East on a consistent basis and since the remaining schedule is 90% AL East, that would spell disaster.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      The powerful Rays or Orioles lineup is indeed terrifying.

      • The Real Greg

        And he did pitch well against the Red Sox this year.

    • Brian S.

      Why can’t he handle the AL East on a consistent basis?

  • The Real Greg

    I have another crazy theory.

    Yankees get Dempster.

    D-Backs: Garza, Hughes
    Cubs: Prospects from both teams
    Yankees: Upton

    • MannyGeee

      So the Yankees need an infielder, a catcher and a NON OOGY… but not to stand pat while everyone else is doing something, they pull the trigger on another (not really good) SP and another OF?

      Sorry dude, the story doesnt check out.

      • Ted Nelson

        If the Yankees are bullish on Upton he would sort of transcend need.

  • http://fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

    We’re getting used to force the Dodgers’ hands. Dempster isn’t coming here.

    • RetroRob

      I thought the same. It’s not like the Yankees would leak this info, so it’s probably coming from the Cubs to try and force the Dodgers to step up their offer. Dempster also confirming he’d accept a deal to the Yankees is his way of also getting the Dodgers to step up since that’s clearly where he wants to go.

      I’m sure the Yankees would do a deal for Dempster if the price is right, but I still think he goes to the Dodgers.

    • Brian S.

      Cashman and Epstein are buddies.

  • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

    Although I think this is just some posturing by the Cubs, I really don’t like Dempster in NY if something did happen.

    Extremely low BABIP, strikeout rate down, very high LOB% all pretty alarming…

  • JobaWockeeZ

    These analysts don’t know the deadline doesn’t restrict trades…

    • http://fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

      They know. But they’re also running a television program. It’s about ratings.

      They don’t break out the “well 4pm doesn’t ‘really’ mean anytthing because things continue to trickle in” until 4 pm passes.

      They want to uphold the suspense.

  • Erica

    Less than 90 minutes oh gahd.

  • Sweet Dick Willie

    Reminder: Your trade proposal sucks.

  • MartinRanger

    Dempster/Hughes is a wash in terms of value. Maybe Dempster is a better pitcher (I’m not entirely convinced) but Hughes is still cost-controlled.

    I’d like an impact bat out of nowhere, but I’m not expecting it. The offense is simply playing badly right now. They are better than this. Whether they will be in October? No single trade is going to change that.

    And I’d rather wait for Joba than overpay for a rental reliever.

    This offseason, though, I’d like to see Cashman make a deal for a Granderson-type impact bat. Or Headley.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Hughes is a free agent after the season which isn’t exactly controlling.

      • FIPster Doofus

        He’s a free agent after next season. One more arb year left.

        • MartinRanger

          Which is damn important when you are talking about a pitcher who has shown flashes but probably not enough yet to commit to him long-term.

      • RetroRob

        Hughes is a free agent after 2013. Dempster is a free-agent after October this year.

  • jjyank

    Ughhh I can’t wait anymore, I need to go on lunch. Maybe I’ll come back to the Yankees trading for Upton for Cito Culver or something.

  • Tampa Yankee

    ERMAHGERD TRERD ERL DA PLERS

  • Troll Hunter

    No way is Dempster worth Gumbs annd Bichette Jr. Keep dreaming Theo!

    • MannyGeee

      Bichette or Gumbs, huh? Why stop there, boy genius?

      offer Marmol for that scrub Mason Williams! ooohhhh and Aramis for Sanchez! being bad at your job is fun!!!

      • MartinRanger

        Theo would really happy lost it in that case, seeing as Aramis isn’t on his team anymore.

        • MannyGeee

          He’s the Boy Genius! He can do it!!!!

  • Guest

    if dempster falls in our lap for a nobody prospect then im for it..if not its a dumb move

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I still have no clue why they’d spend their time trying to acquire him unless Brian Cashman masquerades as a Freddy-hater on here.

      Spare me the Hughes drivel in advance. Please.

      • Athenian

        Only legitimate reason I have seen is that Pettitte may be worse off than is being reported, thus eliminating him from any post season spot or pitching at all the rest of the season.

        Otherwise, I am completely with you on this one. This HAS to be a charade by Cashman.

      • Ted Nelson

        He doesn’t have to think Dempster is that great to think he’s an upgrade over Hughes or Nova.

        • RetroRob

          …or maybe the Yankees are talking about Dempster because they’re also talking to the Padres about moving Hughes in a deal for Headley.

          • Ted Nelson

            It’s possible.

          • MannyGeee

            a whole lot needs to happen in 49 minutes for this to transpire.

  • The Real Greg

    If the Dodgers really wanted Dempster, then they would have had him by now.

    • http://fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

      Dempster really wants the Dodgers. The Cubs really want to get rid of Sempstresses. LA has better to offer than us.

      Don’t get fooled

      • Ted Nelson

        What do the Dodgers have to offer? Their farm system is pretty universally regarded as bottom 5-10 in the league.

        • Gonzo

          I’m pretty sure Allen Webster and something minor gets it done probably less. That’s not even aiming at Zach Lee.

  • Brian S.

    SOURCES: Robinson Cano and Nick Swisher are finalizing a deal that will see Cano’s sub sandwich traded to Swisher for his homemade potato salad and a snack to named later.

    #confirmed

    • Troll Hunter

      Now thats a good deal!

    • Kevin G.

      Swish fleeced Cano.

    • Cris Pengiucci

      Has to be false. Cano lives in NY, where everyone knows it’s a hero, not a sub!

      • Gonzo

        I grew up calling it a wedge.

    • Rocky Road Redemption

      I’m calling BS. I’ve had that potato salad, way too salty. I wouldn’t trade an egg sandwich for it, let alone a sub.

      • Adam

        Plus Cano eats that sandwich way too lackadaisically.

        • Rocky Road Redemption

          It looks bad for both sides here-who wants a lazy sub?

  • tyrone sharpton

    Why the refusal to trust in Hughes? Ridiculous…the guy has been lights out after the debacle that was April/May

    • Tampa Yankee

      I don’t think it is them not trusting Hughes as it is them not trusting Freddy and Nova, Phelps not being totally stretched out and Pettitte’s setback.

    • JohnnyC

      Because no pitcher in ML history has ever had an off year due to an injury. Never! Every 1st round pick has gone straight to the Hall of Fame! Without ever losing! Check it out on BREF. It’s true!

    • Ted Nelson

      Lights out is very kind. And he also has no history of durability whatsoever.

      I’m totally fine with him in the rotation, but I don’t have a ton of trust either.

    • CS Yankee

      Not really lights out, dimmed yes, but not out.

      Pence might have been a so-so thing a few weeks ago, but unless its big, I hope they stand pat. By big, I mean CarGo for DBich and one high-upside from the DL pile of young guns (ManBan/Pineda/Campos) or mid-upside, injury-free pile (Warren. Nik, Monty).

      • MartinRanger

        I’m still annoyed Colorado locked up CarGo – he’s the one I wanted.

        • CS Yankee

          I could pick him up in about a hour…do it Cash!

    • TomH

      I wouldn’t say “lights out.” He’s certainly been good, better than many of us (me included) expected. However, he is a home-run-giving machine in Yankee Stadium, and I wonder how he would do in some nice big pitcher’s park, if the Yankees could obtain for him a nice ground ball pitcher. (I’m not thinking about a Dempster trade, of course.)

    • Robinson Tilapia

      He’s like a super-stuft TJSC burrito.

      • MannyGeee

        +1 for anything TJSC Burrito!!

  • Erica

    Anything going on with Headley?

    • Brian S.

      His name is Chase. Like the bank.

      • Erica

        Ugh. Like the bill I have to pay.

        • Brian S.

          Like the doctor from House.

          • MannyGeee

            like what Wily Coyote used to do to The Road Runner…. or something

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Nothing. I must have place the hoaming device under the wrong car. That, or he crossed into Tijuana for the day.

      • Erica

        Scottie beamed him up to Tijuana, except there was a malfunction with the transporter and his particles were never the same.

  • The Real Greg

    Another question: Why would the Yankees play ball with the Cubs if its just a ruse?

    • RetroRob

      Who says it’s a ruse? The Yankees would take Dempster at some price. Cashman is talking to multiple teams right now on trades we’ll never hear about. It’s possible, and likely, this was leaked by the Cubs to get the Dodgers to up their deal, which doesn’t mean the Yankees can’t be the fall-back position. That’s probably exactly what’s happening.

    • CS Yankee

      Aren’t the Cubs themselves, just a ruse?

      • JonS

        That would be Houston.

  • Cano

    Why am I becoming very concerned that the Yanks make a bad move today. My gut doesn’t feel right at the moment.

    • JohnnyC

      Don’t worry. They didn’t just sign you to a 10 year extension. Now that wouldn’t sit well with my gut.

    • MartinRanger

      Well, for the sake of clarification, do you classify the Ichiro deal as a ‘bad move?’

      • Cano

        Not at all. I think it was brilliant on Cashman’s part. I’m a little uneasy as to the pitching aspect of the trade market. I’d rather go Phelps. Only player that I would openly accept in a trade if Justin Upton, but the pieces don’t work right now. In the offseason they do.

        • JohnnyC

          I think you should be working on your swing, especially against lefties, instead of commenting on this blog. How do you expect that big payday when all you do is lurk on the internet?

          • Cano

            Is there a problem? Serious question. I’ve made two comments and you’ve made two absolutely ridiculous responses.

            • JohnnyC

              Check your handle.

    • Cris Pengiucci

      That’s just from the hot dog you had for lunch. Nothing happening today …

    • BK2ATL

      Could’ve been that egg salad sandwich and milk you had for lunch.

      I don’t see Cashman making a “bad” move now. I would “love” for NinjaCash to pop up at 3:30 pm with a huge move on no one’s radar (like Ichiro) to shut all of these sources up.

      Not gonna happen, but would be great. The speculation is ridiculous.

  • Adam

    I’ll play Devil’s Advocate here for a second.

    If we get Ryan Dempster, we move Freddie Garcia back to the ‘pen or option Ivan Nova (I hate doing such.). We’re getting Joba in more or less a week, which will remove Qualls. Do we option Cody Eppley to get more experience and run with Phelps and Garcia to be the non-OOGY machine in the ‘pen?

    (Total speculation.)

    • Hoss

      I would guess that Eppley goes as part of package for Dempster, with Phelps taking his place in bullpen and Garcia going to mop up once Joba returns and Qualls is set free. Again, a guess. I hope none of this transpires. Dempster is a questionable and costly upgrade.

  • JohnnyC

    Red Sox just got Breslow. Says they’re starting Morales against Yankees next series. Loading up on left-handers. Like sharks in the water they see Yankees’ weakness against lefties. Would be a good thing to get a right-handed threat not named Jones, Nix or Martin in the line-up.

    • The Real Greg

      Don’t the Yanks have a winning record this year against lefties?

      • JohnnyC

        That’s with ARod and a hot Jeter. Both of which they don’t have currently. Add to that Cano’s terrible year against LHP.

        • MartinRanger

          Which would seem likely to improve based on his career rates, no?

          Teix is mashing as a righthanded bat.

          • JohnnyC

            Why would it be likely this season? More likely than continuing to suck? If you’re saying he’ll revert to form next season, yeah, but it’s not unusual for outliers to last a complete season if not more. Swisher was awful against lefties last season, very good this year.

    • MartinRanger

      The Red Sox need a lot more than Craig Breslow. Their bullpen is just fine.

  • CS Yankee

    Need Mor Bats!!!

    IF they do something, do something big, young and powerful. Cargo, Upton, Joey Bats, Cepcedes, etc.

    • Adam

      I’d love Cespedes or Ciriaco, but I doubt either will happen.

      • Brian S.

        One of those things is not like the other.

        • MannyGeee

          lets reserve jugdement on that until we see Ciriaco in full spandex.

      • JohnnyC

        If Cashman were stupid enough to trade something even mediocre for Ciriaco, Cherington would drive him to the stadium himself.

        • RetroRob

          Ciriaco is fungible. He’s just hit the Yankees well but he’s not really a good player. He’ll be passed around from team to team over the next few years serving as back ups to back ups.

          • JohnnyC

            No, he’ll end up playing in Korea. North Korea.

    • RetroRob

      Joey Bats is certainly not available, and if he was, not inter-division. Cespedes is not moving either.

  • vin

    Didn’t we write Dempster off, like 3 years ago, because he had irritable bowel system?

    Oh no, that was Duchsherer… carry on.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Can anyone provide info on Dempster’s sphincter, though?

      • JohnnyC

        Think about your poor wife. She’ll be devastated. Or perhaps not so much.

  • Erica

    59 MINUTES

  • RetroRob

    How can Denard Span decline a deal to the Reds as just reported? He’s not a 10-5 guy.

    • yooboo

      no trade clause.

  • Brian S.

    The Red Sox traded Podsednik and Fat Albers for Breslow.

    • CUYanks

      Panic in the streets of NY!

    • The Real Greg

      That’s a dumb move. Sox didn’t need bullpen help.

      • CUYanks

        Looks like they are moving Morales back to the rotation?

        • The Real Greg

          That’s even dumber. That’s Joba-esque

          • CUYanks

            He was excellent in his several uninterrupted starts this year.

            • Brian S.

              Like when the Yankees torched him in Fenway. He did good against the Cubs and Mariners.

              • The Real Greg

                Ah

              • CUYanks

                He had good starts against the Cubs, Braves, Mariners, and Rays. His one bad start in his five starts this year was against the Yankees, but don’t forget we’re talking about the Yankees, plus Bobby V inexplicably pitched him 1.1 innings in relief in between the start before and that one.

            • MannyGeee

              he actually had a nice little run until the Yankees dismatled him. His first start of the season and the Yankees start were bad, but they book-ended a strech run where he had >1.50 ERA or something like that…

              or so WEEI told me a few weeks ago, if memory serves

      • Gonzo

        But Breslow plays a mean game of flip cup.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Breslow wil somehow have gained 50 pounds and have a bedbug-infested goatee by Friday. Albers will do great on a diet of Key Lime pizza from the Cheese Board in Berkeley.

          • Gonzo

            Albers is now vegan.

      • Cano

        The Red Sox make some of the most bizarre moves. That’s another that really makes zero sense. Albers sucked last year, but has been fantastic this year and Posednick is a serviceable OF. Now they bring in a redundant LH for the pen. These Sox man, they do some odd stuff in that front office.

        • MartinRanger

          Albers was one of their key set-up guys. Maybe they are gambling on Bard coming back, but their 8th inning guy is now a lunatic called Vincente.

    • Adam

      Opens up the available fried chicken in the clubhouse.

      • Adam

        Just out of curiosity, are there two Adams running around? I’m probably going to switch handles to solve that.

        • Adam

          Ack, apologies! I have been somewhat (generally speaking) not on the site this season. Apologies for stepping on your toes. But…awesome name.

          • Eve

            Oh boyyyyyyys. ;)

            • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

              Dumb fact here. Eve has been a name used many times for hurricanes and such around the world. However, our name hasn’t, talk about sexism. :P

          • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

            It’s alright, I’ve been meaning to switch for a while.

  • Betty Lizard

    No! Not Dante Bichette, Jr! I apparently have a perverse attraction to the unibrow as he is my Baseball Boyfriend-in-Waiting.

    • The Real Greg

      I’m telling Coltrane

      • Brian S.

        What does Gears of War have to do with this?

        • Betty Lizard

          Hee.

          Baseball Boyfriend is a season-by-season gig. Martin knows his contract might not be renewed.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Well rock the cradle of love
      Rock the cradle of love
      Yes the cradle of love don’t rock easily it’s true
      Well rock the cradle of love
      I rocked the cradle of love
      Yes the cradle of love don’t rock easily it’s true
      Well now
      It burned like a ball of fire
      When the rebel took a little child bride
      To tease yeah so go easy yeah
      Cause love cuts a million ways
      Shakes the devil when he misbehaves
      I aint nobody’s fool
      Come on shake it up
      Whatever I do

      • Erica

        YEAH

      • Peter North

        Loved that video back in the day.

  • CountryClub

    Erik Boland ?@eboland11
    One talent evaluator: “Brian just doesn’t want to deal top prospects.” Difficult to imagine him doing so for Dempster

    • Brian S.

      He’s damn right I don’t.

    • Adam

      I bet only way this happens is if the Cubs are desperate to dump Dempster and a really low level prospect from the Yanks is the best offer they get.

  • tyrone sharpton

    NYY is apparently discussing Chris Perez with Cleveland….whaaaa

    • The Real Greg

      Where are you getting this?

      • Brian S.

        The Schomna Lisa.

        (I used this joke up in the previous chain but I’m not sure if you guys saw it)

        • Erica

          Uber-schmo

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Missed it. Need context.

          Beware of changing your name to something that was a funny one-time joke. You could wind up as the next Robinson Tilapia.

          • jjyank

            At least I got away from The Miracle Stick.

    • MartinRanger

      Could be worth a try. He’s not terrible.

      • tyrone sharpton

        apparently it’s from feinsand. sounds ridiculous though, they don’t need someone like that

    • MannyGeee

      gross. he’s a fucking train wreck… he SCREAMS Eric Gagne to me….

  • sangreal

    Do the Yankees grab McGehee from the pirates now that they picked up Sanchez? They seem intent on getting a non-offensive 3B

  • MartinRanger

    If Cashman deals top prospects, he should do so in the winter when he has time to work out the best deals for the longer term. There is no rental worth a top prospect the Yankees could realistically acquire. But I’d definitely take stock of the system, especially the lower guys, after the season and package a few for a longer-term bat.

  • TJ

    My gut tells me yanks do nothing and continue to fill holes from within

  • Eddard

    Dumpster is not an upgrade! If you’re going to get a starter get someone who will make a difference, not someone who will get beat out by Phil Hughes for the playoff rotation. Cashman needs to make a big splash.

    • http://www.workwithpete.com Pete

      Ichiro was the splash, unless the plan was to make the Mariners miss Ichiro so much that they’ll trade Felix to get him back.

      In which case – BRILLIANT!

      ;-)

    • yooboo

      Yankees need Dempster’s inning eater. Thats all. I wont go for it, too.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Then buy him a fucking pool and trampoline.

  • Chip Off The Ol’Knoblauch

    I wonder if the Yanks do get Dempster if the plan would be to put Freddy back in ‘pen and trade Phelps and Nunez (or whoever) for Stephen Drew or someone of that ilk.

    • Brian S.

      Phelps and Nunez for Drew would be a terrible trade.

    • MannyGeee

      that would suck out loud.

      • Chip Off The Ol’Knoblauch

        Yea, I agree. I’m just thinking out loud. I really don’t see the need to trade for a back end guy unless a subsequent move was in the works.

        • MannyGeee

          now, Phelps and Tyler Austin for Headley has some legs…

          • MartinRanger

            I’d do that in a heartbeat. Austin could be a corner outfield impact bat. But he’s still a ways away. Headley’s athletic enough that I think with time he could be a passable RF. And excellent A-Rod insurance until (hopefully) Bichette is ready.

    • jjyank

      I want none of your ilk.

  • The Real Greg

    If the Dodgers dont bite, then the Cubs really have to trade him to the Yankees so they will accept less.

    • MannyGeee

      nah, hes not a hot potato. and I would be willing to bet hes the kind of player that passes through waivers.

  • jjyank

    Back from lunch…didn’t miss anything, did I?

    • MannyGeee

      Denard Span and Alfonso Soriano did not get traded, Sox got Breslow for Fat Albers and Posednik, Betty Lizard is cheating on French Catcher with Dante Jr, and we all seemed concerned with Dempster’s butthole for a little while there.

      typical Tuesday at RAB…

      • jjyank

        Ha solid update, thanks.

      • MartinRanger

        Perfectly put.

    • yooboo

      Yes… in other blog, trading for Dempster is a warm welcome.

  • The Real Greg

    I think what Sweeney said is going to happen. Dempster’s just going to fall into their laps.

    • Erica

      Whose, the Yankees?

      • The Real Greg

        Yep. The Dodgers seem to not be biting.

        Heyman saying the Yankees have a very good chance of getting him.

        • MannyGeee

          23 minutes before the end of the non waiver deadline seems like a funny time for Los Doyers to rein in the spending though, doesnt it? something is amiss here…

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Betty Lizard’s.

  • Thunder Road Runner

    Very willing to trade Nunez/Pena for just about anyone.
    Phelps….not so much!

  • yooboo

    bronxton-chapman for Reds? nice!

  • Betty Lizard

    Wow. No trades. This IS the New Yankees. Reuse – Reduce – Recycle!

    • RetroRob

      23-minutes to go.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Shit often starts rapidly being reported once 4:00 hits.

    • Thunder Road Runner

      Get used to it, Betty. Apparently, they are persisting in holding on to their prospects because they will need them when they start slashing payroll. Say, will the price of tickets be slashed accordingly? What? Oh. Didn’t think so….

      • jjyank

        Unrelated things right there.

        There’s nothing wrong with standing pat if the price isn’t right.

        • Adam

          Unfortunately the fan base largely equates new moves and spending with inherent improvement. 2004-2008 disagree vehemently.

          • Sweet Dick Willie

            They also equate payroll w/ ticket prices.

        • Thunder Road Runner

          And charging $10 a hot dog to pay for A-Rod’s contract?

      • RetroRob

        Why would they? Stop going and prices fall. Yankees keep winning and people keep going to the games then prices stay the same or even increase.

        It’s a pretty simple concept.

  • Marcy

    Meanwhile check out the Yankee lineup – ugh!

  • Jacob

    Bench Bat Bench Bat Bench Bat Bench Bat Bench Bat

  • MannyGeee

    MLBTR hasnt updated in 12 minutes…. FREEEEEAK OUTTTTTTTTT!!!

  • Thunder Road Runner

    Doesn’t look like anything shaking…

    • MartinRanger

      Didn’t the Abreu deal happen at the last minute?

      • MannyGeee

        and the Wood/Berkman/Kearns deals were all 3:59 plays too, if memory serves

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Except for my pants.

      • jjyank

        I thought that was a tent.

  • Athenian

    Well this has been fun. More important issue is to hope the Yankees avoid being swept by the Fighting Showalters. Based on the lineup, doesn’t look good.

  • The Troll

    If they don’t get a useful, everyday bat then their WS hopes are severely reduced. I’m practically panicking over here!

  • Brian S.

    OH MY GOD!!!!!!!

    • The Real Greg

      What?

      • Brian S.

        A pair of shoes I ordered just showed up.

        • Erica

          UGH

        • The Real Greg

          Shoes? Come up with something better.

          • Brian S.

            These are some sick fucking Addidas though.

        • jjyank

          I don’t think I’ve ever hit refresh that fast on MLBTR.

      • Gonzo

        He saved a lot on his car insurance?

    • MannyGeee

      dont do that… you will cause 2 strokes, 15 fear-boners and at least one miscarraige if you induce that sort of stress.

      • jjyank

        Haha +1 on the fear boner reference.

  • yooboo

    Yanks’ current standpoint is not getting Dempster. Thats good news.

  • Yankeefan

    15 Minutes left lets pull a deal do something.

    • yooboo

      They are not going to do anything.

      • Yankeefan

        :”(

  • FIPster Doofus

    I’ve still got 14 more minutes to dream of a Chase Headley acquisition.

    • The Troll

      8 minutes.

  • MartinRanger

    Let me say that I do believe Michael Pineda is going to be a valuable Yankee. But damn it would be great to still have Montero.

    • steve

      look at his numbers in July and Vs. Lefties… He’s exactly what we need

      Mason Williams, Gary Sanchez, Adams. For Montero!

  • tyrone sharpton

    bowden is saying yankees MAYBE acquired dempster….

  • John

    I have to believe that Laird is better option than Wiggington

  • Erica

    Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN
    As jayson stark reporting: Dodgers out on dempster. Yankees talking.

  • The Real Greg

    Bowden saying the Yanks have Dempster. Looking for confirmation

    • Brian S.

      DONT TRADE GUMBS!!!!

      • rek4gehrig

        … but but but is Dempster what we really need. I would prefer that they got a right-handed bat instead

  • The Real Greg

    Also hearing that Dellin Betances is in the package to the Cubs

    • Brian S.

      PACKAGE!?!?

    • Adam

      Ugh, no way…

    • Thunder Road Runner

      God, no!

  • JD

    @JimBowdenESPNxm reports at 3;49 that the Yanks may have gotten Dempster

  • JD

    @JimBowdenESPNxm tweets at 3;49 that the Yanks may have gotten Dempster

  • The Troll

    FUCK!!! If the world tells me that the dumb, cock-gobbling Cashman acquired a pitcher over a bat . . . I am going to have an epic meltdown!

  • King George

    Take this for what it’s worth…got a text from my uncle who works for Bloomberg that he has heard from multiple people in their sports department who confirmed Dempster is going to the Yankees. Hopefully, more details to come.

    • RetroRob

      Verducci just said on MLBN that the Yankees do not think they are getting Dempster, and that was two minutes prior to 4:00.

    • http://fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

      Yeah…..not worth much.

    • Slugger27

      its not worth anything.

  • Pat D

    ESPN chat guys already saying Dempster not a good fit for YS3.

    • RetroRob

      Same ones who said Kuroda wouldn’t work in the AL East and a Yankee Stadium?

      No matter. Dempster to the Rangers.

  • Erica

    Scott Miller ?@ScottMCBS
    Looks like Dempster to #Rangers, working on confirmation
    Retweeted by Erik Boland

  • Pat D

    Now sounding like Dempster is going to Texas.

  • The Troll

    I’m on the verge of being an incredibly disgruntled camper

  • Yankeefan

    1 minute omgggggggggggggggggggggggg

  • Joe

    The Rangers acquired Ryan Dempster from the Cubs, tweets ESPN’s Buster Olney.

  • Marcy

    Rangers got him

  • Betty Lizard

    Getting Dempster would be like getting underwear for Christmas.

    • RetroRob

      What’s worse? Holes in your underwear or holes in your rotation?

      To be clear, I don’t think the Yankees have holes in their rotation.

  • Brian S.

    Rangers got him?

    • MannyGeee

      Yankees dodged a MAJOR fucking bullet there. Thank you, Nolan Ryan!!! I expect Dempster to cause you a shit ton of this in October:

      http://www.pinstripedbible.com.....1-ALCS.jpg

      I LOVE Nolan Ryan Face. It seriously makes my life

  • Erica

    Eff this noise

  • The Real Greg

    Goodbye WS. The Texas Rangers robbed us AGAIN

    • Bunt Gardner

      Greg, Greg, Greg….

    • Jacob

      From a NL pitcher tht would get killed in NY, yea…

  • Dan

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

    Seems like Dempster is going to the Rangers.

    • Bo Knows

      I hope profar and/or Olt were in the package just because it would really help NY in the long run if either/both are not in the AL

  • PhillyMatt

    Dempster to Rangers Thank you

  • Nathan

    Cashman stood pat. No surprise.

  • http://fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

    Dempster a Ranger. Who fell for the idea of the Yankees? They were being used just like was said at 12pm.

  • cashisabitch

    again the yanks do NOTHING. 1st round losers AGAIN

    • Bunt Gardner

      Who did you expect them to grab? You also realize trades can be made in August, no?

      • MannyGeee

        I am willing to bet that anyone that thinks the Yankees NOT selling the farm for marginal (if at all) upgrades and calls himself “cashisabitch” has ZERO idea theat there is a whole ‘nother deadline…

    • jjyank

      Can I have your crystal ball please?

    • Sweet Dick Willie

      Better to do nothing than to make a poor move…like acquiring Dempster.

  • tyrone sharpton

    WHEW…dempster to texas. he’s going to get sodomized in the AL

  • The Troll

    Wow. So . . . wow. He really did nothing? Seriously? Wow. I’m in shock. Not good.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    What is Cash saving the prospects for? Another pitcher to have Tommy John surgery?

    • Adam

      Umm for a more worthy player to trade them for?

  • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

    Pretty clear now that the Yankees were involved merely to drive up price

    • RetroRob

      Probably not. They were involved to potentially get a starter at the right price.

      • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

        I don’t know, if anything it was just hope that the Cubs would get desperate at the end if there were no other takers.

        We’ll know more depending on the package Texas sent.

  • Dan6767

    We will lose in the first round again. We made no additions. And we will be playing either Angles or Rangers. Sorry but this season is already a wash. We live and die by home run. But I am confident that we will not win World Series. Which is no better then making the playoffs.

    • MartinRanger

      Guys like you are why people hate Yankees fans.

  • The Real Greg

    Sherman saying that we are trading Qualls to the Pirates for Casey McGehee

  • rek4gehrig

    Seriously? We did nothing? Oh well

  • Erica

    Joel Sherman ?@Joelsherman1
    #Yankees on verge of getting Casey McGehee for Chad Qualls from #Pirates

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Hey, it gets Qualls away from Girardi. That right there is a plus.

    • Adam

      Ok seriously that would be kind of awesome. I know just a spare part, but…for Qualls.

    • MannyGeee

      wow, that was SUPER anti climactic.

      • Erica

        Blue balls.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Holy shit the Yankees might get more than a used jockstrap for Qualls????

  • Dan

    I’m happy Cashman stood pat. There really weren’t any moves out there to be made that drastically improved this team. Headley was really the only bat worth going after that would have really improved the offense, and he would have cost an insane amount in prospects, same for Gordon. They don’t really need bullpen help with Joba coming back soon. Maybe they could have used a starting pitcher, but there wasn’t anyone really available that would have been that huge of an upgrade over Freddy. Also, if Andy comes back for the playoffs then you are taking Nova out of the playoff rotation, which I am not a fan of.

  • Jacob

    Qualls for Mcghee official WS GUYS!

    • Tom

      The Qualls era is over! The Qualls era over!

      (imagine the music in the “prohibition is over” commercial)

  • MartinRanger

    Oh I’ll take a flier on him. He used to be able to hit. And Joba upgrades on Qualls.
    I’m just stunned anyone wanted him.

  • Jacob

    Qualls for Mcghee official GUYS!

  • RetroRob

    The Yankees got something for Qualls.

  • Scooter Blake

    Cashman is great at standing pat and creating the best regular season baseball team. While Dipoto, Daniels and Amaro are out building teams to win PLAYOFF SERIES’.

    • Bunt Gardner

      Obviously baseball is not your strong suit.

      • Scooter Blake

        The results speak for themselves sweetie.

        Swisher, Tex and the majority of our other “impact” hitters will inevitably fail to show up in the post season again. Which leaves our fate up to Kuroda, Nova and Andy Pettitte.

        Not to mention the fact that this is our first playoff venture in 16 years without Mariano Rivera.

        Cashman makes bold moves in 2009 = Yanks win World Series.
        Cashman sits on his hands in 10 and 11 = Yanks exit playoffs in first round.

        • YanksFanInBeantown

          Have you ever heard of the phrase “When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging”?

        • Get Phelps Up

          I guess your memory of the 2010 playoffs is a little foggy…

        • jjyank

          I don’t even know where to start with this.

    • jjyank

      It’s pretty much impossible to build a team for a small sample size.

      • Scooter Blake

        It may be “impossible” to PREDICT a short series, but it’s very easy to prepare for one.

        Zack Greinke.
        Matt Garza.
        John Johnson.
        Anyone that can slot between CC and Kuroda would DRASTICALLY increase our chances in a playoff game where we can’t rely on our hitting.

        • Adam

          Yes but this doesn’t exist in a vacuum. I am glad the Yanks didn’t give up the equivalent prospect package for Greinke.

          Also…didn’t John Johnson retire in the 70s?

        • Get Phelps Up

          JJ and Garza aren’t better than Kuroda. And they have Pettitte to slot between CC and Kuroda.

        • YanksFanInBeantown

          I CAN’T BELIEVE WE DIDN’T GET JOHN JOHNSON!

    • MannyGeee

      obvious troll is obvious. moving on

      • Darren

        “obvious troll is obvious.”

        can we finally retire this exhausted cliche it’s tied with “This.” for unbearably grating responses.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          Butthurt troll is butthurt.

    • pat

      Did the Angels even make the playoffs last year?

    • Sweet Dick Willie

      Don’t you have to get to the play-offs to win a play-off series? Because I’m pretty sure Amaro’s team isn’t going to the play-offs this year.

  • The Troll

    Oooo!!! Casey McGehee!!! Might as well serve up that WS ring right now. Those other jokers don’t stand a chance!

  • Adam

    Seriously McGehee has decent pop, can play the corners…and they got him for Qualls. Not shabby.

  • Eddard

    How many times is Cashman going to get beaten to the punch by Nolan Ryan? Every single time. Hopefully this doesn’t cost us a WS berth like it did in 2010.

    • MannyGeee

      if Dempster is the ‘single’ reason that the Rangers make the World series over the Yankees, then you would be right… but no way in hell that Ryan fcking Dempster is the answer to the season for Texas. Not buying it.

      Thank your lucky little stars he is not getting Nova or Hughes’ next start. your head would explode.

    • jjyank

      Since when is Dempster some kind of mythical savior?

      • Tom

        People think the shiny ERA will stay shiny (and that he won’t regress from his 2.25 ERA to closer to his 3.7 xFIP)

        He’s still a good starter but I think people see an ERA in the low 2’s and think ace and that he can maintain that.

    • Bunt Gardner

      Wait…what? This was you earlier:

      Eddard says:
      July 31, 2012 at 11:32 am
      Dumpster would be a waste. He’s not a top flight starter. If we’re going to get a starter it has to be top flight or it’s not worth it. We have other needs as well-

      Now you’re saying Nolan beat Cashman??

      • pat

        Lol, you and your logic. No place for that in a trollfest.

  • cashthegenius

    woooooooooooh WHAT AN INCREDIBLE MOVE! Wow Cashman, you just vaulted the Yanks right into the World Series! FUCKING AMAZING.

    • Bunt Gardner

      Maybe you should switch to bowling as your favorite sport.

  • Thunder Road Runner

    A servicible body at a position(s) of need….

  • Chip Off The Ol’Knoblauch

    How does Chad Qualls keep finding work?! Oh well, I’ll take the useful bench piece over the guy keeping a seat warm for Joba any day. Well played Cash.

  • Erica

    Marc Carig ?@MarcCarig
    Classic Cashman deal: Yankees get useful piece for a player that was likely going to be the odd man out when Joba comes back this week.

    ….Okay, I see his point.

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    This trade deadline sucked.

  • thenamestsam

    I know everyone wants to see a bunch of moves because trades are sexy and whatever but Cashman absolutely made the right choices here. This team is still a heavy favorite to make the playoffs, and whoever thinks they have the magic formula after that is full of it. The only kind of player that would have made sense to deal for is an impact player, someone who can really swing a playof series. Greinke is the only one of those guys who got moved, and the price was too high for a rental.

  • Adam

    Joba en route to the Bronx, apparently?

    • JMK

      According to his Twitter account, yep.

  • Slu

    Brackman DFA’d by the Reds. Who wants him back???

  • Bavarian Yankee

    lol, Brackman’s been DFAed by the Reds. At least it was kinda funny to see him fail at high A this year.

    Those Killer Bees suck. Well, at least 2 of them.

  • Grover

    This trade deadline showed restraint. The August 31st waiver deadline could be much more interesting. Lee pitched a shutout last night and he just might be put on waivers. Though clearly a risky move on the budget, great starting pitchers win championships and Cashman believes this to be true. I would not rule out a claim on Beckett if he returns in time from his injury and shows some of his old form. He is, after all, a postseason gamer and taking one from the Bosox would be so cool.