Jul
25

Wednesday Night Open Thread

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Well, that was a fun way to end an otherwise dreadful road trip. At least now the Yankees can feel good about the series in Seattle on the long flight home tonight and during the off day tomorrow. That is always appreciated.

Here is your open thread for the evening. ESPN will air the Dodgers and Cardinals (Harang vs. Lohse) a little later and yes, Hanley Ramirez will be in the lineup. Go ahead and talk about that game or whatever you want here. Have at it.

Categories : Open Thread
  • yooboo

    White Sox, Brewers, Astros or Twins may seek a closer next year, Mr. Soriano.

    • Laz

      It really seems to me like they are trying to get him as many saves this year. Today I probably would have let phelps finish off the game unless he struggled. The more saves soriano gets the more likely he is to leave, better ways to spend $14M

  • yooboo

    White Sox, Brewers, Astros or Twins may seek for a closer next year, Mr. Soriano.

    • yooboo

      oy!

  • Kramerica Industries

    The Trout!

    Kid is fricken phenomenal. As I might’ve said before – I’ll enjoy his presence on my fantasy roster this year, because, unless I am drafting first in my league next year, I’m not getting my hands on him ever again.

    • jjyank

      I hear ya man. I drafted Trout with my very last pick in my draft this year. Figured I might as well go for prospect upside with the last pick than some mediocre closer or something. Man am I thrilled about that call.

  • Knoxvillain

    Mike, do you think you can lift the ban on me on MLBTR? I was banned about a year ago and I have no clue what I did.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Sorry dude, that’s beyond my jurisdiction. I wouldn’t sweat it, the comments there are like the worst of the worst of the worst here x1000.

      • Knoxvillain

        Ah, alright. That’s exactly why I wanted it lifted, actually. It’s pretty damn funny reading the comments there.

        There’s a page on Facebook called “Let’s Talk Baseball.” Everyone on there has a combined IQ of 50. It’s just so hard to not post a comment on there after reading some of the things that these people say.

        • RetroRob

          Have you sent them a note requesting to be reinstated, or asked for an explanation of why you were banned, or how long the ban lasts?

          Seems odd to get a lifetime ban, or for the site not to have a mechanism in place to review bans.

          • Knoxvillain

            Yep, twice. They never e-mailed me back or anything. Ah. Not a big deal. I guess I’ll just hope for more Stuart.

            • RetroRob

              Have you tried registering a new account with one of their posting systems? I think Disqus is their main one. A new account with randomly moving IP addresses should mean you can’t be blocked forever.

              Or maybe Disqus blocked you and not MLBTR? Perhaps something you said on another site led to Disqus suspending your account?

  • jjyank

    Bummer there’s no Yankee game for me tomorrow, which is my birthday actually. Last year CC really wanted to throw me a perfect game as a present, then there was that obnoxious rain delay. This game: http://www.baseball-reference......7260.shtml

    Ah well. I guess I’ll just get wasted with one of my old frat buddies instead :P

    • yooboo

      I have a good news for you. I close the YooBooLand amusement for good.

    • Jacob

      Oh man I know how you feel but Matt Cain sorta kinda threw me one this year :) I remember that game I really thought he was going to do it but after the hit I thought he would get the cg was expecting cg shutout but the damn rain threw him off

    • Paul VuvuZuvella

      Happy birthday my friend.

    • Ghost of Joe Dugan

      Back in 1995 I got a great birthday present from the Yankees. They called up Jeter to make his major league debut…in Seattle…for a game I was attending.

  • The Scheister of Doom

    Aramis Ramirez? I know he has two years left after this year but perhaps he could be traded or split time with A-Rod as he transitions to a full-time DH. Thoughts?

  • Arya

    I think we’ll be ok without A-Rod for 6-8 weeks. Chavez and Nix will be just fine. We needed guys to step up and today Jeter and Nix showed that they can. Friday it might be someone else. Joba’s coming back. As long as there’s no more injuries we’ll be at full strength just in time for the playoffs.

    • captain kiwi

      i think we’ll manage without a-rod for sure, but it’s not gonna be without its ups and downs. my biggest concern is him being ready for the playoffs. i’m worried he’ll come back and he’ll be just straight cold – by the time he gets back into the swing of things, it’ll be too late.

  • Jacob

    So what is everyone’s all time favorite Yankee game regular season?

    • Paul VuvuZuvella

      Regular season? Day of Thurman’s funeral. Bobby Murcer drives in all runs in a memorable Yankee come from behind victory. Nothing even close.

      • RetroRob

        I could never name that as a favorite. Too depressing. Great moment with Murcer rising up in that game for his friend, but it was just too depressing for me as a kid. I don’t even feel good watching it when it’s shown on Yankee classics.

        • Paul VuvuZuvella

          I hear you. He already died, though, a few days earlier. THAT was depressing. The Murcer 5 RBI game on 8/6/79 was for me, insanely uplifting. It was on National TV with Howard Cosell in the booth. It felt like a Hollywood script the way Jeter’s 3,000 hit game felt scripted. I stand by my answer, but understand your POV.

    • Ghost of Joe Dugan

      David Cone’s perfect game. Hollywood would have rejected the script. Yogi Berra Day at the stadium. Don Larsen throws out the 1st pitch to Yogi. Then…history!

      • RetroRob

        That would be mine since I was at that game. Hard to beat a perfect game for a personal memory, at least when it comes to regular-season games.

  • Epic

    Mason Williams out of game after 1 AB tonight. What gives??? Hurt or something in the works?

    • Jacob

      Hope he is hurt unless we are getting somebody major like Greg nettles in his prime

      • Jacob

        Graig

        • Jacob

          WAIT NO I DON’T WANT HIM HURT EITHER

          • RetroRob

            At least you didn’t call him Craig.

            • Jacob

              Well I was going to just leave it because it is such an odd spelling of greg but then I thought it would look like I didn’t know anything so I had to change it

      • Laz

        I heard it is straight up for Trout.

        • Epic

          Trout straight up for the entire Tampa roster?

      • Gonzo

        Mike “Brooks Robinson” Olt!

    • Danny

      Considering it was in the middle of inning, I’m gunna assume injury. It was on a double to right-center, so perhaps he hurt his hamstring running for the ball or maybe a collision with Austin, but Austin wasn’t hurt ? IDK just speculating here.

  • King Charles The Great

    Hey, anyone saw that play by Carlos Gomez wherein he rounded the bases on a FOUL ball?

    Also, Ryan Doumit who started running to the dugout after a flyout thinking there were already three outs? But there was a runner on third who scored while Doumit was casually jogging!

    SMART Baseball!

  • Tom

    What happened to Ricky Romero this year? He seemed like one of those really good pitchers that go under the radar, but he’s fallen off a cliff.

    He got taken to the woodshed and was beaten like a red headed stepchild by the A’s tonight (1.1IP, 6 BB’s, 8ER)

    • Kramerica Industries

      Very Lesterian effort.

  • xnyles

    I want what Oakland is taking.

  • Andruw’s Smile

    Man, the whole “HanRam needs a better work ethic and that’s why he hasnt been that good” narrative is gonna get old quick

    • CUYanks

      He already didn’t run hard out of the box on what turned into a triple.

      • Andruw’s Smile

        Very few players sprint out of the box on that ball. It only fits the narrative that he didn’t sprint.

        • CUYanks

          I would think it would be in Hanley’s best interest to at least be aware of the narrative and bust it at least for the first ab with his new club.

          • Andruw’s Smile

            Yeah, I’m okay with that. i just don’t think it’s fair to attribute his poor results the past few years to laziness and lack of motivation solely.

  • CUYanks

    Ryan Roberts has already homered for the Rays, playing third base. Oh, what could have been.

  • The Real Greg

    It seems that the Yankees have propensity for scoring go ahead runs while I am out. I had to go to dinner with my family after the Granderson popup with the bases loaded.

    Can I say a HUGE HUGE victory for the Yankees.

  • G

    Rangers did their best Yankees impression, stranding men on the corners with no one out.

    Look at that no one has a 1.000 BA with RISP.

    • CUYanks

      And they also bunt away outs.

  • Andruw’s Smile

    At what point do you guys think that ESPN and the like will stop using RBI as an indicative of good players as opposed to opportunity? Never?

    • CUYanks

      They might move towards acknowledging its flaws, but it’s reasonable as a descriptive stat and they don’t seem to put a lot of emphasis on prediction/valuation anyway.

    • jjyank

      50 years?

    • JobaWockeeZ

      It’s based on opportunity but it still tells you that they got shit done. It doesn’t tell you if they’re better but let’s also not pretend that RBI totals are extremely random.

      • Andruw’s Smile

        Not extremely random, but you steal hear a ton of their analysts talk about it like its the main indicator of a good player. I.E. Hanley sucked last year because he only had 75 RBI, when in reality there’s 40 different ways to say Hanley wasn’t good last year before getting to RBI

        • Andruw’s Smile

          still* not steal. Yikes.

      • jjyank

        Not “extremely” random, but still kinda random. It’s a stat based on what the rest of the team does. If player A, a superstar type talent, plays on a bad team (or even a good team that just happens to be mostly slumping), the RBI totals suffer. Meanwhile player B, an average player, is on a really good (or a really hot) team and has more RBIs. IMO, any stat that is so heavily dependent on 8 other players, is very random. It’s not useless, and it’s definitely a fun stat.

        I few RBIs like I view wins. If a pitcher get’s 20 wins, but otherwise has just an okay career, I shrug. If a pitcher reaches 300 wins, well that’s damn impressive. Not because a win is impressive, but because of longevity, durability, and effectiveness over an extended period. With RBIs, some guy getting 100 RBIs means nothing to me. A guy getting to like 150 over a season is pretty impressive though, and a guy passing Hall of Famers on the all-time list is also very impressive. But as far as using it as a stat to determine 1 season’s worth of effectiveness, it’s mostly useless in my eyes.

        • Rocky Road Redemption

          Agreed, unless, like you said, you have something close to the 150 mark-that would seem to indicate SOMETHING special is going on there.

          And yeah, for career totals there’s some relevance.

  • Tom Q

    So, after all the agony fans went through for 7 innings today, the Seattle series was about what you’d have guessed upfront: Yanks win 2 of 3, losing the Hernandez game, but even there making it close.

    The nicest thing about today’s late rally is it cut short the gloom narrative, which it’s too easy for even rational fans to get caught up in. The Yankees this season have either played like they were charmed (as in June/most of July) or like, if they didn’t have bad luck, they’d have no luck at all — the early RISPFail-laden 21-21, and this past weekend in Oakland (4 frickin’ losses by a margin of 4 runs!). For seven innings today, it felt like the Yanks couldn’t buy a break: balls hit on the nose landing in outfielders’ gloves, Cano’s double being blocked just enough to keep Jeter from scoring the tying run. If the game had ended 2-1, it could have felt like the whammy was on the team. Nix’s hit put a nice end to that.

    • Tom

      I expected sweep against one of the worst teams in baseball.

      This nonsense of judging games simply by the starting pitching is getting old, is very lazy, and is poor logic. While the starter is obviously key, the offenses are VASTLY different as are I think the bullpens.

      The Mariners are 11-10 in Felix starts this year…. that’s against all teams. Against the team with one of the best records in baseball I don’t understand the expectation that this should be a loss when the Mariners are barely above .500 in his starts.

      • jjyank

        I didn’t expect a loss necessarily. But looking back in hindsight, I’m totally cool with winning 2 out of 3, with the one loss coming against Felix.

        • Tom

          I’m fine with 2 out of 2 as well… but that is pretty much bare minimum expectation in my view against a team as bad as the Mariners.

          Sweeps are hard, I just can’t stand this justification process people use (I think Greg was using it as well) that good pitcher on the mound equals loss, or expected loss, or can’t feel bad about the loss.

          To me it makes no difference whether they had beat Hernandez yesterday and lost today, but I’m sure the sequence of wins/losses would have made a difference to some. It’s the same crap when the Yankees win the first 2 games of a series and the third game is perceived as a “bonus”.

          • Tom

            2 out of 3… argh

      • G

        Well he is a Yankee killer. We’ve shelled him a couple times lately, but he’s been on a roll these past few weeks so a loss really shouldn’t have been surprising.

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    Question for you guys: I’m considering buying a couple of tickets for the bleacher seats at Yankee Stadium. Do the Bleacher Creatures give newbies a bad time?

    Keep in mind we’re both Yankee fans.

    Thanks in advance guys.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Not at all.

    • Andruw’s Smile

      Nope, it’s a great time

    • Rocky Road Redemption

      Cool, thanks guys. Glad to hear it.

  • http://yes jim

    Would like to give a shout out to ANDRUW JONES….10 for 14….broken up by a single and a few pops and grounders, but, his new streak is at two K’s..(7 in a row is quite a fete). Nice to see someone who couldn’t catch keep everything in front of him and even throw out Ichiro! (Hope Stewart asked for pointers) Four Yankees hit (Well three if you say Jeter only counts as one) and Ibanez almost Cervelli’ed. Not one Mariner batter seemed nervous at the plate. Loved Coney’s comment that, “accident or not something has to be done”. Also, we probably won’t see the likes of Sanchez and Williams as they will be traded before wearing pinstripes. I’m actually amazed that Phelps wasn’t included in the Ichiro deal.

    • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

      bitter much?

  • Pat D

    Spent the last two days power washing the house with my dad.

    That is not a lot of fun, let me tell you.

    • jjyank

      I’ve spent plenty of my working hours in past jobs as a painter, and I’ve done plenty of power washing myself. Although in general, it’s not fun at all, it is way more fun than the process that usually proceeds it.

  • http://riveravenueblues.com dan scabet

    its apparent that older players some time s can not catch up with good fastballs. how many of these past
    bashers will swallow there ego and reduce bad wgt in order to increase bat speed.

  • Mike Stanley

    Spent the night at Fenway Park. I’m a Liverpool fan.

    It’s conflicting.