Yanks drop another one-run game, fall to O’s

Update: Teixeira leaves game with wrist injury, x-rays negative
Some thoughts on the morning of the trade deadline

Losing another one-run game — their sixth in the last eight losses — is bad enough, but the Yankees potentially lost Mark Teixeira to a wrist injury on Monday night against the Orioles. Well, not potentially, he definitely won’t play on Tuesday. Given the scheduled day off on Thursday, I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see him until Friday. They can ill afford another injured bat right now.

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Lefty No Out GuYs

Boone Logan and Clay Rapada faced two left-handed hitters each and they combined to record zero outs. Chad Qualls bailed out Rapada in the ninth, but Logan wasn’t so lucky. He opened the seventh inning by retiring Wilson Betemit and Mark Reynolds, but he walked Omar Quintanilla with two outs — he hit a homer against the Yankees earlier this season, gotta pitch him carefully now — and gave up a booming double to Nick Markakis. David Phelps came in and allowed Markakis to score.

Logan has now surrendered runs in five of his last ten appearances, but the real problem is that the typically reliable bullpen has been giving up big runs of late. On Saturday and Sunday it was Rafael Soriano and David Robertson, and back in Seattle it was a combination of Logan, Qualls, and Rapada. That doesn’t include the two walk-off losses in Oakland. The trade deadline is less than 24 hours away and the Yankees have a clear need for another non-matchup reliever, but they seem content to wait for Joba Chamberlain to return instead.

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Three Homers And A Leadoff Double

The Yankees scored their first run on a long Eric Chavez single in the second, taking advantage of the balk that put Raul Ibanez in scoring position with two outs. Their other three runs all came on solo homers, including shots by Ibanez, Chavez, and Ichiro Suzuki. It was his 100th career homer of Ichiro‘s career and his only hit of the game, extending his streak of exactly one hit in every game as a Yankee to seven.

Unfortunately, the Yankees couldn’t even hit the ball out of the infield after Nick Swisher opened the ninth with a leadoff ground-rule double. Ibanez struck out, Chavez walked, Ichiro grounded into a fielder’s choice that would have been a game-ending double play had anyone else been running, and Russell Martin struck out. I get that Jim Johnson has a ridiculous sinker, but you’ve got three chances to get the man in and the ball traveled roughly 120-feet.

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Leftovers

Freddy Garcia pitched okay, three runs on nine hits in six innings. Pretty typical fifth starter stuff. He’s allowed more than three runs just once since returning to the rotation a few weeks ago. Outside of Freddy, Qualls was the team’s most effective pitcher on the night, getting two ground balls to escape Rapada’s ninth inning jam. Not a good night when he’s one of the stars of the game.

The Yankees couldn’t do anything against Miguel Gonzalez except when he hung a changeup. The 28-year-old non-prospect rookie struck out eight and walked zero. Sometimes you have to tip your cap and credit the pitcher, but this isn’t one of those times. The offense needs to pick things up, especially with Alex Rodriguez on the shelf.

The top five hitters in the lineup went a combined 3-for-21 with seven strikeouts. Robinson Cano is stuck in an 0-for-13 rut and is back in “swing at all the pitches!” mode, and Curtis Granderson is slumping as well. Teixeira also had his worst game in a while, striking out in all three trips to the plate before leaving with the wrist problem. Outside of the homer, the Yankees had one runner make it as far as second base after the second inning, and that was Swisher in the ninth.

Box Score, WPA Graph & Standings

MLB.com has the box score and video highlights, FanGraphs the other stats, and ESPN the updated standings. The division lead is still seven games in the loss column over the Orioles and nine games over the last place Red Sox. The Yankees are 3-8 in their last eleven games and at some point soon these one-run losses need to turn into some wins.


Source: FanGraphs

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Some thoughts on the morning of the trade deadline
  • Heisenberg’s Hat

    When Swish hit that leadoff double I gave the Yanks about a 5% chance of scoring that run. I’m not even exaggerating. I had ZERO faith in that happening, and would have bet good money for Ibanez to strike out.

    • Anthony

      I think 25% would have been more realistic. But yea, I get you. Bottom of the order.

      • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

        Actually, it’s probably not the bottom of the order as much as it’s been the Yankee way all year. The home run can’t bail them out every time.

        • Anthony

          I don’t think that they are always trying to hit for power, it probably has more to do with the general RISP fails across the lineup (with a slightly greater contribution from the bottom 7-8-9 players).

    • rek4gehrig

      I did better than you did. I was at the game and left after the bottom of the 8th cos I knew there was no way the Yanks would come back (thank goodness I didnt have to witness the man-on-2nd-nobody-out debacle)

  • Knoxvillain

    The more games the Yankees play, the more I hate Girardi. Two more fucking losses from his failure to manage a team the right way will cause me to produce enough energy to power the industrial world for 200 years.

    • Heisenberg’s Hat

      It’s not his fault the LOOGYs didn’t get out the lefties.

      • Knoxvillain

        It’s his fault he brought them in. He should have kept Phelps in the game. He should take his platoon bullshit and manage like a big league manager for once in his life.

        • Heisenberg’s Hat

          That’s true. I can’t think of any manager who’s smart enough to just use the best pitcher instead of the specialist.

          • Anthony

            Sarcasm… I hope? I don’t know is wrong with Logan lately (Cory Wade all over again?) but usually Rapada gets the job done. I would almost always take the specialist, especially if the game is close. Exception being if the SP is still in and doing very well and the Yanks are up. Save the bullpen some work.

            • MannyGeee

              the bullen has really developed a case of the shimmy shakes this week.. that sucks. EVERYONE (save for Phelps, if you dont count that BB last night) has had a case of the hiccups this week

        • Heisenberg’s Hat

          And Phelps came in after the initial LOOGY fail. That’s when the runs scored, and Phelps also didn’t do his job.

          • Knoxvillain

            Phelps did fine. Logan should never come in the game in the first place. It should have been Phelps. Actually, Phelps should have started tonight.

            • Heisenberg’s Hat

              Phelps gave up the winning run. I do agree that he should be a starter, but it wasn’t starting pitching that lost this game.

              • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

                True. You have to score more runs against the Orioles. I can’t think of one starting pitcher that should scare anyone on Baltimore’s staff. You have to do better than four runs against that team.

    • rogue

      Regardless of who’s to blame, the Yankees have the makings of a collapse: weak bullpen and a lack of hitting.

      If there is a collapse (a failure to make the playoffs), Girardi’s done.

  • Brian S.

    The Yankees only have two players that can both hit and defend above average.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Robbie and Swisher? I’d put Tex in there too. He’s been great since the start of July. like .309/.398/.654 since July 1st. I really hope he’s not to badly hurt.

      • Brian S.

        Robbie and Teix. Swisher is an subpar defender that is helped out by a short right field.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          Wait…you’re giving Tex credit? I thought you hated him? lol

          • Brian S.

            Teix has won me over. I started hating him last year after watching him do nothing but pad his stats with home runs when the games were over and then striking out or popping out when there was someone on base. But he’s been ultraclutch this year so props to him.

    • ultimate913

      Cano and Swisher?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Martin and Stewart?

      • JohnnyC

        Well, Cervelli had an option left and Stewart doesn’t and he’s really good defensively, yadda, yadda, yadda. Someday we’ll find out the true story.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          Sadly, I think that is the true story.

        • Heisenberg’s Hat

          I’m still waiting for that “good defense” to show up.

    • Nathan

      Cano and…?

      Swisher = hit and defend average
      Tex = hit below (for average) and defend well above average

      Granderson, ARod and Jeter I’d say the same as Swisher, just better offense.

      Really the Yankees are, other than Cano, hitting below what they should be.

  • stuart a

    swisher is not a above avg fielder.

    there issues are all offensive related…

    they are so bad at doing the little things offensively it is staggering.

    0 and 35 down going into the 9th…..you have to steal a game on occassion.

    the k’s and unproductive outs time in and time out are killing them…

    they need a offensive player, young who can be on the team for years. trade for j up… trade 4 prospects……

    • Nathan

      They aren’t hitting on all cylinders. Really, Cano is the only one hitting well and he’s been hot/cold. Everyone else is practically having a down year or way down years (Martin, ARod power wise).

      The RISP fails are too obvious to ignore.

      So yes, I agree that the offense is the problem.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Which 4 prospects?

      • MannyGeee

        easy… Melky, IPK, Kotteras & Montero.

        I’d make that deal

  • flamingo

    I’m a little surprised they’ve lost 8 of their past eleven – it doesn’t feel like they’re playing bad baseball.

    And these injuries are piling up at a really bad time. (Not that there’s ever a good time for them…)

    • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

      The only difference between this losing skid and the successful run they had before was that they’re no longer hitting the timely home runs. Other than that, you’re probably right that they’re performing almost exactly the same. Where about three weeks ago, they’d hit two 2-run HRs and a 3-run shot, tonight you got three solo shots. It’s the perfect example of why a home run-centric offense is unreliable. You have to be able to score in other ways besides waiting around for home runs. This team seems incapable of that and there’s no reason to think they’re going to turn around anytime soon. They’re going to live and die by the home run.

  • Nathan

    Jones, Ibanez, Chavez, and Nix…they’re all guys who should be used sparingly yet we’re seeing two, three sometimes four of them in the same lineup. Injuries or not, they are subs in the starting lineup. Add that to starters who are underperforming and that’s why we’re seeing the offense slip and fail to score.

    Tex going down is not going to help and I hope it’s only a day-to-day thing.

    • FIPster Doofus

      Agreed. Too many reserve-caliber players are in the lineup. They seriously need another bat.

    • Jersey Joe

      This is part of the reason I dislike the Ichiro trade.

      Ichiro just hasn’t been good in a while, and he’s not the “bat” the Yankees are looking for.

      • Yankonymous

        Yes, Obi-Wan.

      • Nathan

        I don’t dislike the Ichiro trade because Ichiro is really only expected to provide speed and a decent left field while allowing Jones/Ibanez to DH. The problem right now is that we might still see Ibanez/Jones in the field due to injuries.

        Ichiro is basically here to do his best Gardner impersonation.

        I don’t know how he’d do it but I’d like to see Cash find a bat that would allow Ibanez/Jones to be bats off the bench/backups as needed. They’ve done a good job, Ibanez in particular, but I think the Yankees are asking far too much of them and they WILL burn out.

      • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

        I can’t see why anyone could disagree with the Ichiro trade. They replaced Gardner with almost the exact same player. At this point, Ichiro is going to hit for about the same average as Gardner. Ichiro’s probably a better base stealer (by a small margin) and just as good defensively. Plus, they gave up nobody for him. If they were to go after a big bat, it’s unlikely D.J. Mitchell was going to be any part of that deal other than maybe the third or fourth name mentioned.

        When most teams look to hold up the Yankees, I think they got a pretty fair deal for the ideal replacement. Besides, why would the Yankees need ANOTHER home run hitter in this lineup. I’d argue they need exactly the opposite. They have to figure out a way to score other than waiting for the home run. That’s not going to be Ichiro’s problem. His problem will be leading off with a single, stealing second, then being stranded there by the next three batters on a strikeout, weak grounder to short and a pop fly or shallow fly out.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          Ichiro also gets on base a lot less than Gardner did. Gardner’s ability to draw walks, combined with SB, baserunning, and everything else, made him about a league average or slightly above league average offensive player (career 106 wRC+). Ichiro’s inability to draw walks limits him as a very low OBP and low power player to be well below average overall offensively (78 wRC+ this season, 82 last year). The Yankees could use more good offensive players. Ichiro is not that. He is probably a better all-around option as a platoon OF than Ibanez was, but unless he has a dead-cat bounce left in him, he’s going to be a drain on the offense in a time when they can ill afford it because of injuries.

      • DT

        At the time of the Ichiro trade, no one expected Arod to go down, and the rest of the team to go into a slump without him. Ichiro wasn’t brought here to carry the offense. He’s here for speed and defense.

      • MannyGeee

        dont look now, but Ichiro has hit in every game he’s played in Pinstripes (11 bases in 7 games, 259/.286/.407/.693).

        I am alright with that, considering the circumstances and what he was brought in to do.

  • DT

    Cano looks lost

    • Nathan

      He’s trying too hard. He looks the way ARod did at various times during his Yankee career.

      Guys with as much talent should stick to “see the ball, hit the ball” saying.

      • DT

        Yea, he looks like he’s just going up swinging no matter what the pitcher is throwing him. At least Arod had some patience at the plate.

  • BigBlueAL

    I dont know what to make of this offense right now. It feels like their offense is barely above average and is clearly the worst offense they will be taking into the playoffs since 2001 yet when you look at their team stats going into today they are 1st in OPS (3rd in OBP, 1st in SLG) although “only” 5th in runs/game.

    • Brian S.

      They have the best wRC+ but are only 5th in runs scored because of the RISP problem. Any normal year where their RISP batting average was right next to their overall team average (like it has been the last decade) then they would probably lead the league in runs scored and have a couple more wins.

      • BigBlueAL

        Exactly. So basically we just have to assume/hope the RISP failures even themselves out and the offense will be due to start scoring runs in bunches. Its frustrating because we watch them struggle and its like we gotta go get this guy and that guy yet in reality the only problem is poor hitting (luck?) with RISP. The injuries arent helping at all either.

        • Heisenberg’s Hat

          Waiting for regression to the mean is pretty damn annoying.

          • BigBlueAL

            It fucking sucks lol

          • Brian S.

            It actually hasn’t been that bad the last two months…it’s just these last three games it has been pretty brutal and leads to a lot of confirmation bias.

            • DT

              They’ve actually been hitting well in RISP. They problem is that they aren’t scoring when they do get hits.

              • Klemy

                True. It feels like there have been too many people going second to third on hits lately.

        • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

          I always felt that in baseball, if you’ve been saying you’re waiting for something to change that’s been going on all season and it’s now the end of July, you can stop waiting. It’s probably not going to happen.

          • Jim Is Bored

            This is incredibly short sighted.

  • ultimate913

    I certainly don’t love the situation the Yanks are in right now, but I’ll definitely love to see what decisions Cashman will make in these next few hours(and August via the waiver wire).

    I’m sure if everyone was healthy, or if even half the guys on the DL were healthy, Yanks would maintain the 10+ lead on the division and heck, probably expand it, but it’s tough situations like these that will really show what a GM can really do when situations get tough.

    But regardless, whatever decision Cashman makes, I’ll be happy with it. It’ll either help the team in the short term, or help the team in the long term by holding on to guys, neither of which, I will be against.

    /glasshalffull’d

    • Nathan

      My guess is that Cash stands pat UNLESS there is really bad news about Tex but even then, I don’t see Cashman trading any big pieces and/or taking any extra salary.

      If I could make a blanket statement for Cashman for the present and next year or so it would be “I’m keeping the team as is unless something cheap and/or free falls presents itself. Read my lips, no new payroll”.

  • Davey50

    The reason we are losing is the top 5 players in the line-up aren’t hitting. Since returning from Seattle they are a combined 14 for 81.(.170). Take out the first game back where they won 10-3 and they are a combined 8 for 62 (.130). If the top half of the line-up continues to play that poorly we are in for trouble.

    • Heisenberg’s Hat

      Lately, as in post all-star break:
      Jeter doesn’t walk or hit for power. He mostly grounds out, but gets the occasional soft single. No steals or anything like that.
      Granderson hits the occasional homer, otherwise he strikes out.
      Cano is just lost.
      Tex has been great. Finally getting hot when the team needs him.
      Swisher’s been hurt.
      A-rod is hurt and was having a mediocre year anyway.
      Ibanez has been a bust, and his defense stinks.
      Ichiro is just washed-up. The guy who could outrun any ground ball and turn it into a hit has vanished.
      Andruw Jones looks great when he’s in a groove, but can just as soon strike out 8 times in a row.
      Martin, Stewart, Nix, Pena… ugh.

      • Nathan

        I think you’re a little too harsh on some of them. Ibanez hasn’t been a bust (Damon/Matsui projects were busts for their respective teams). And I think the sample size is too small for Ichiro. He’s certainly not the Ichiro of old, more of just an old Ichiro.

        All others are basically spot on though.

        • Heisenberg’s Hat

          Ibanez has a below 300 OBP.

  • CUYanks

    Let’s all just root for the A”s to do our work for us and hold off the Rays by winning in the bottom of the 9th.

    • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

      How about the Yankees start doing they’re own work? It usually doesn’t work out well in sports when you have to root for other teams to “help you out.”

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Uh, the Yankees don’t need any help from other teams. They control their own destiny and have for more than a month now.

        • CUYanks

          “Control their own destiny” at this point in the season is a pretty trite remark. Sure they do, if you think they can win every single game, but then again the same is true when the season starts. Realistically, they’re going to need a certain number of losses from the Rays (and other teams) to win the division, so I don’t see why it’s inappropriate to root for them to come. It’s one thing not to focus on other teams (when half the time you don’t really know who you need to win a game to help you in the first place), but I’ve always found it a pretty arrogant remark to act like “we don’t care what happens elsewhere” as a fan. Similar logic applies to citing the loss column in the standings — do you really think your team has control enough to win EVERY game?

  • Yankonymous

    The Yankee’s offense really does need an overhaul.

    The Yankees lineup is TOO patient. This notion of a walk being just as good as a hit needs to go. A walk doesn’t plate a player from 2nd.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Of the 3 outs with RISP in the game (Ibanez, Ichiro, and Martin), the 3 hitters combined to take only 1 called strike and combined to swing at at least 5 pitches out of the strike zone. Being too patient was most definitely not the problem in this game, and it seems like most of their RISP fail has stemmed from being overly aggressive and chasing pitches out of the strikezone.

      • Yankonymous

        Pretty small sample size, no, one game?

        How many times have we seen it this year. A man in scoring position and the guy at the plate takes a walk, passing the buck to the next guy, who, by definition, is a worse hitter since he’s hitting lower in the lineup.

        I’d really like to see Teix & Swisher be more agressive.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          I’ve seen many times when Yankees have gotten themselves out by being overaggressive and chasing pitches out of the zone. A walk is much better than getting themselves out chasing bad pitches. There have certainly been some times when players take a good pitch to hit when they shouldn’t (ARod comes to mind in this category) but I think the problem of over aggressiveness and poor plate discipline has been a much, much bigger problem in RISP situations (especially with Cano). Taking a walk is much better than chasing bad pitches.

          • Yankonymous

            Taking a walk but not scoring is not worth anything, either, which is occurring more frequently than not.

            I really think we need more hacker/slasher types and the Ichiro acquisition reflects that.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting

              “Taking a walk but not scoring is not worth anything, either, which is occurring more frequently than not.”

              It is worth something. It gives the next hitter a chance to possibly get a good pitch to hit while not making an out in the process. Chasing pitches only to make outs is much worse.

              As for Ichiro, he’s been horrible all year, and especially horrible with RISP. He hacked in the ninth inning and grounded out on a pitch out of the strike zone. How is that a good thing?

              • Yankonymous

                But if the player who walks fails to score, as does the player in scoring position, it is worthless as the score has not changed.

                Think of it this way, we are granting intentional walks to our best hitters, so the opponents pitchers can pitch to less capable hitters.

                • Need Pitching & Hitting

                  Cano is the Yankees best hitter. That is definitely not happening with Cano.

                  Walks don’t always help, but they never really hurt. The next hitter just gets the opportunity to get the hit, or walk and keep the line moving. Swinging at bad pitches almost always hurts, and almost always results in outs. Yankee hitters should absolutely be aggressive when they get good, hittable pitches. If they don’t, they absolutely should be willing to take a walk and take their chances with the next hitter rather than getting themselves out by trying to be hero and swinging at bad pitches.

                  • Yankonymous

                    But that’s what I’m saying, walks do hurt!

                    Here’s the scenario:
                    I got a guy at 2nd. Swisher is up, and instead of trying to slap a hit to left, he’s up there either looking to drive the ball or work the count by fouling off pitches until he works a walk.

                    Let’s say he takes the base, now 1st and 2nd with Russell Martin up…

                    See my point?

                    • Need Pitching & Hitting

                      I’m not sure he ever tries to foul off pitches to work a walk. He might foul off pitches to try to keep the AB alive with 2 strikes, which may eventually lead to a walk, but I doubt that is the original goal.
                      Either way, I’d rather take my chances with Martin than with Swisher swinging at pitches out of the strike zone. Even Martin has a better chance of success in an AB than just about any hitter if the other hitter is swinging at pitches out of the zone.
                      I would agree that sometimes they look too much to drive the ball, rather than slap a single in certain situations, but again, that would fall into the being overaggressive category, not the too patient category.

                    • Get Phelps Up

                      Ichiro tried to slap a hit to left in the 9th inning and ended up grounding out to short. It’s not that easy.

                    • Heisenberg’s Hat

                      You can’t use Russell Martin. That’s the trump card.

                    • Yankonymous

                      You don’t think Swisher realizes his next contract is tied directly to his OBP?

                    • Yankonymous

                      Jayson Nix.

                      Doesn’t matter, we don’t have the all-star lineup we did before. History has shown, we can’t load the bases and wait for the HR…especially in the playoffs.

                    • Need Pitching & Hitting

                      Regarding Swisher’s OBP: If he is worried about his OBP for his next contract, he certainly not showing it. He has the second highest in zone and out of zone swing % of his career this year. If anything he’s been much more aggressive and less patient and selective in his contract year.

                    • Yankonymous

                      Things that a walk does NOT provide that contact with the baseball does:
                      1) A runner scores from 2nd
                      2) A runner scores from 3rd with less than 2 outs (sacrifice fly > walk)
                      3) A runner moves from 1st to 3rd
                      4) An opportunity for a defensive error
                      5) A run scores (except for the rare occurrence that the bases are loaded)

                    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                      No one is arguing that walks are as good as hits. The point is to get walks AND hits. Sometimes you don’t get good pitches to hit, so you take the walk instead of trying to force something.

                    • DT

                      You go up to the plate looking for a hit. Everyone does that. But good hitters also recognize when he isn’t getting anything good to hit thus taking a walk. And when they do have something good, they should take their best swing at it. The point of baseball is no to make outs. If you don’t make outs and get on base consistently, eventually you’ll score runs.

                      Cano in this recent stretch is actually a good argument on why you shouldn’t just go up trying to be impatient. Pitchers are going to pitch around Cano, yet in the recent games he’s been hacking away despite that. He’s trying too hard to get a hit and thus have been in a mini slump because of a lack of plate discipline and simply swinging at everything. The Great hitters know how to work the count and get a good pitch to hit or take the pass. When Cano was actually patient at the plate this year, he has shown to have much more success then going up and free swinging.

                    • Need Pitching & Hitting

                      I mostly agree with all that. Except pop ups, strike outs, some ground balls, and shallow flies accomplish none of that, and deprive other hitters of the chance to do any of that. Being overly aggressive and not waiting for good pitches to hit greatly increases the chances of K’s, popups, weak grounders, etc. Outs are the biggest impediment to scoring runs, not being patient and waiting for good pitches to hit greatly increases the chances of making outs.
                      But a walk doesn’t prevent the next hitter from having the opportunity to do any of the things in your list. An out might. Of course a hit is better than a walk (or even a productive out might be better in some circumstances). The Yankees biggest RISP problem is they are making too many outs (and usually unproductive ones). Being patient and not swinging at bad pitches leads to better pitches to hit, more baserunners, and better chances to score.

                    • Yankonymous

                      MLB batters rarely get good pitches to hit, especially in RISP situations. Sometimes, you need to go get the hit. Don’t look to drive the ball, go with it and hit the other way if it’s a bit outside, or maybe even golf it if it’s low.

                      Waiting for ball to drive works well in theory, but in practicality, how often does an extrabase hit occur? Why are you looking to drive one into the gap when you’ve got a runner on 2nd and you’re down by one.

                    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                      Why are you looking to drive one into the gap when you’ve got a runner on 2nd and you’re down by one.

                      Because the harder you hit the ball the more likely it is to go for a hit. You’re acting like slapping a single the other way is something every player should be able to do at a moment’s notice.

                    • Need Pitching & Hitting

                      Good pitch to hit doesn’t have to be fastball down the middle to drive into the gap. It can also just be a strike lined for a single somewhere.
                      Swinging at pitches out of the strike zone, even if just s little out of the strike zone, are much more likely to result in outs than singles. Outs are the enemy of scoring runs.

                    • Yankonymous

                      Well, in some ways, yes, I do believe that, because these are professional hitters who should be capable of at least attempting it in a ballgame with some degree of success.

                      It’s that the players don’t want to, because 2B’s and HR’s gain more attention than singles.

                    • DT

                      You’re less likely to get a hit if you try to force the issue rather than taking what you are given. Plus to get a hit you need to swing hard, even singles are hard hit groundballs or line drives. Putting a good swing on a ball in the zone usually results in a hit than trying to slap a ball out of the zone. Not everyone is Ichiro in their prime who can slap a single to the infield and still make it to first safe.

                    • DT

                      “It’s that the players don’t want to, because 2B’s and HR’s gain more attention than singles.”

                      What? You seem to believe baseball players can precisely control hits or something. This statement is utterly ridiculous.

                    • Yankonymous

                      DT – do you think there’s only one type of swing?

                    • DT

                      No, but you honestly think a hitter should just try to slap a single and somehow that’s going to work? More likely than not it’s going to end up a foul ball or a weak out to someone. Very few hitters can do that. If all batters can somehow magically slap singles when they want to we’d have more guys like Ichiro. Even then, Ichiro spent his entire life perfecting his unorthodox swing so he had that ability.

                      It’s not some skill every hitter has; to just stick their bat out and get a single. And it’s absurd to think that a guy trying to do that is going to be more effective or do something positive than him working the count and taking walk or getting a pitch to drive. Even good hitters like Jeter or Arod in their primes couldn’t just try and slap a single. They drove the ball the other way with authority when they got a good pitch to hit. That’s what mot good hitters do. It has nothing to do with 2b or homeruns being sexier, its just not feasible for most hitters to just do what you are asking of them.

    • DT

      Uh no…The problem this game is that they were hacking away at a pitcher who walked 5 per 9. They did the same throughout the oakland series and against seattle. Doubrant is the only one they managed to work the count against.

  • Tom Q

    The last two weeks or so have been Murphy’s Law in overdrive — losing ARod, confirming Gardner’s full-season absence, all the cruel losses. If Teix turns out to only miss a few days, that almost qualifies as good news in recent context.

    It’s more than just the 1-run losses: in this stretch of 3-8, the 8 losses were by a combined 10 runs. They outscored the opposition over those 11 games, and their rcord is abyssmal. Roll over, Pythagoras.

    I know everybody’s all “this team sucks”, and “You can’t keep talking about the division lead”, but, seriously…8 losses in 11 games by a total of 10 runs? That has to be incredibly bad luck — especially if you remember bloopers falling in for the other team (like Boston in the 9th last night), and smashes that fall short of the wall for the Yanks. If this team were the disaster people were screaming about in the game threads, they’d be losing by 4-5 runs a night. They’re not; they’re just falling cruelly short. I understand it’s frustrating to see that so many times in a row, but, truly, it can’t last…they’re a good team that just can’t seem to get things to fall their way right now. (The opposite of what was happening a few weeks ago, when it seemed like they got the hit they needed every night — funny, no one was talking about RISP then)

    • Rocky Road Redemption

      Gotta agree, this is a well-written post.

      Still, these losses DO illuminate a lot of the team’s flaws, and we shouldn’t dismiss them either.

      • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

        I agree. The two biggest problems with this team all season have been: 1. Failures with RISP. 2. Reliance on the home run. Those problems didn’t go away during their hot streak. The difference was that they were hitting a couple of two and three-run homers (instead of solo shots) in every game…while still leaving guys stranded on second and third regularly. But, it was OK because they were winning so nobody noticed or cared.

        Actually, it was never OK and right before the A’s series, I was talking to an Angels fan who was handing the division to the Yankees. I told him to hold off on that as I thought a bad streak was coming and that the disappearance of multi-run homers (or home runs in general) would be to blame. My next prediction to him should be a 21-game winning streak.

        The scariest part of this 3-8 run is that it’s happening against some pretty weak teams. I know, the A’s are hot, but they’re not that good. The M’s could have been swept but the Yankees see Felix Hernandez EVERY time. I swear they’re moving their rotation around on purpose. The Red Sox are just as beat up as anyone and have NO pitching…and then you have the Orioles, who I haven’t bought into all season long.

        This is a stretch where the Yankees should be fattening their lead. I worry we’re going to look back on this as the stretch as THE lost opportunity of the season.

        • Rocky Road Redemption

          This stretch hasn’t been THAT easy. Let’s reverse what you said:

          -We played the Red Sox, a team that’s much better than their record would indicate

          -We played the Orioles (and only lost ONE game so far, the second place team in our division

          -We played the A’s, the hottest team in baseball

          -And we took two of three from the one team that it REALLY would have been embarrassing to lose to, the Mariners.

          So these series’ were not easy by any stretch.

          We’re still well in front and I’m going to tempt the fates and say I’m not really worried about winning the division. If we lose this division lead then a random comment I made on a baseball blog wasn’t going to save them. I’m not worried.

          With A-Rod hoepfully returning, Joba hopefully returning (!!!) and Pettitte hopefully returning all it’ll take is a hot streak at the right time and we steamroll through the playoffs. And that’s generally how it works anyway.

          So in the long haul I think we’ll be fine, I just don’t think it’s wise to COMPLETELY be complacent and not even attempt to correct our flaws, because we definitely have our share.

          • DT

            We also won our series vs the Angels…Last time i checked they weren’t some scrubs either

  • Brian S.

    Interest in Overbay? 124 wRC+ against righties.

    • Get Phelps Up

      I don’t see how he could really be of any use unless Tex misses a significant amount of time.

      • Brian S.

        That’s better than Ibanez, but to be fair to Raul, he has built up a nice WPA due to some really big hits.

        • Get Phelps Up

          It’s not that bad of an idea, but it would mean cutting Ibanez and making Overbay/Jones the DH, which leaves you with no backup OF against LHP. (obviously a minor issue, but an issue nonetheless)

    • DT

      Overbay would be a great bat off the bench. I would much rather have had Overbay pinch hit for stewart this game than Russ, who can’t hit righties for his life.

  • stuart a

    the 4 losses in Oakland were all winnable games. I think the loss is Seattle was also if I remember correctly and the 2 losses were both winnable against the sux.

    they are not doing anything right. all year the offense has been inept with RISP but now the pen has been leaking to add to the issues.

    Joba if effective will be a huge addition. Power arm, no righty lefty bs, etc.

    almost any yankee prospect is potential for a trade in my eyes… who is untouchable? banuelos? sanchez? Mason WIlliams? snachez and williams are 2 years away at least banuelos if not injured maybe a year…..

    they need to add some juice to the lineup………….no need to trade for a pitcher they are OK there……

    • rogue

      I wonder if the Yankees should do the opposite of what you said. I don’t believe in propping up an aging nucleus.

      With Boras doing his midseason shtick, Cano looks distracted at the plate. Giving a 31 year old a 7 year deal is stupid, let alone a 10-year contract.

      I hate to say this, but it looks like the Tigers have finally came out the winner in the Grandy/Jackson trade. Granderson’s UZR/150, last I checked, was a -29.5. That figure screams “out of position”. That, and he’s a K machine who can’t deal with the shift. Add the fact that’s he’s over 30, and it would be foolish to give him a multi-year deal.

      The Yankees are stupid. They don’t have the vision or the balls to trade Cano and Granderson. They gave Jeter and ARod horrible contracts that have become millstones for the team.

      • Brian S.

        The Granderson trade was an attempt to repeat in 2010. They didn’t want an unproven Brett Gardner and a league average Melky manning the outfield and didn’t want to shell our big money on Holliday.

        • rogue

          I’m judging the trade on hindsight only. I loved the deal when it came out. I’m just looking at the results and they are disheartening:

          Jackson has a 12.3% BB rate for 2012. Up from 7.4% in 2010, and 8.4% in 2011.

          Jackson has a respectable ISO of .192, up from .125 in 2011.

          Jackson is light years ahead of Grandy in CF.

          Meanwhile, Grandy is over 30, can’t hit through the shift, and is SO at an awful 27.5.

          Bottom Line: I’m sure the Yankees didn’t expect Grandy to decline so soon and didn’t expect that AJ would improve so rapidly.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Why in the world would you trade them? They can help you win next year far more than anything you’ll get from trading them. People get way too caught up in building for the future. Win now.

        • DT

          Boy the Rangers would have really been better off if they kept Justin Smoak rather trading him while his value was high, and not have Cliff Lee pitching them to the WS. People tend to forget that prospects are like a lottery ticket and there is absolutely no guarantee they’ll work out in the long term.

          • rogue

            The 2010 and 2011 Rangers are better than the 2012 Yankees. They can tweak their nucleus since it’s younger and primed. The Yankees are old and declining.

        • rogue

          That’s under the assumption that they can win now. I don’t have such delusions. The Tigers, Rangers and Angels are better teams. The Yankees BP appears as if it’s coming down to earth after overachieving in the 1st half. The offense is currently being carried by Chavez, Ibanez, and Martin.

          Not the stuff that inspires confidence moving forward. Unless the Yankees pony up stupid contracts for Grandy and Cano, the Yankees would be better long term for trading them.

      • DT

        Tiger have not come out winners at all. If you look at the value Grandy and Ajax have given so far, Grandy comes out on top even with his declined defense. So far the trade has payed dividends for both teams. Tiger in the long term might come out on top simply because they can keep Ajaz longer for cheaper. But that is the pay off when trading for a vet.

        • rogue

          As I said, in another post, I’m just looking at the results in hindsight. Since the Yankees have won nothing since the trade, as of now, they look like the losers of the deal.

          2012 wRC+
          Granderson: 126
          Jackson: 150

          2012 BB%
          Granderson: 12.2%
          Jackson: 12.3%

          2012 K%
          Granderson: 27.5%
          Jackson: 21.8%

          2012 ISO:
          Granderson: .258
          Jackson: .192

          Age (07/31/2012)
          Granderson: 31
          Jackson: 25

          • rogue

            One more thing. The Yankees will need a CF this offseason, unless they want to bank on a weak-hitting, injury-prone Brett Gardner. Yes, that’s what he is, now.

  • Jersey Joe

    Remember the bottom of the order in 2009…

    7. Cano
    8. Swisher
    9. Melky/Gardner

    …Those were the days, when you could actually count on the bottom of the lineup and didn’t have Jayson “Mr. career .282 OBP” batting 6th.

    #6 hitters 2001-2011, most games started
    01: Paul O’Neill, 0.2 WAR, 1.7 oWAR
    02: Robin Ventura, 3.4 WAR
    03: Jorge Posada, 5.6 WAR
    04: Jorge Posada, 3.3 WAR
    05: Jason Giambi, 2.5 WAR, 3.8 oWAR
    06: Robinson Cano, 2.9 WAR, hamstring etc.
    07: Jorge Posada, 5.0 WAR
    08: Xavier Nady (41), Robinson Cano (38): 0.9 WAR, -0.2 WAR (0.9 oWAR)
    09: Jorge Posada, 1.4 WAR
    10: Jorge Posada, 1.0 WAR
    11: Nick Swisher, 1.5 WAR

    There was a decrease from the early 2000s, but recently Jayson Nix, Andruw Jones, even Ibanez are hitting 6th and they all seem like easy outs. Ibanez gets a few situational hits, Jones has cooled off from the series in Fenway, and Jayson Nix……….

    • Brian S.

      The lineup is absolutely not as deep as it used to be. That’s what happens when a HOF caliber catcher gets old and ineffective and then retires and you don’t have an everyday DH.

      • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

        You forgot the part about the HOF caliber catcher retiring, then his replacement having a hot first month and awful rest of the season. Then the front office thinks he’s a viable replacement for next season based on his April instead of his May-October, instead of the one-season stop-gap he was supposed to be. Then he turns around and is amazingly even worse on the offensive end than the previous May-October. Oh, and his defense and throwing aren’t as good as expected either. And you long for the days of Matt Nokes.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          In fairness, Martin was outstanding last August as well.

          • forensic

            In fairness, Martin was outstanding for one week last August, hitting .500 (11-22) with 5 HR’s. Outside of that it was another .200 BA with 2 HR month, with 2 walks.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Oh God.

    The A’s are the masters of the walk-off, and yet they have now left the bases loaded in both the 9th and the 10th innings.

    Only against the Rays. Unreal.

    • Kramerica Industries

      And, for good measure, they strand two in the 11th as well.

      This is sickening.

    • DT

      To be fair the Rays playing Oakland is like two same teams playing each other. It cancels each other out.

    • Kramerica Industries

      It took 15 innings, but the A’s finally get their requisite walk-off win.

      Thanks, Farnsworth.

  • Kevin

    Rays win..Boston went from being 11.5 games out to only being 8.5 games out…we could have buried them for good…and failed to do so.
    2011 Red Sox,2012 Yankees will steal your thunder!

    • DT

      I doubt it, unless you really think the Sox are going to leap frog 4 teams. The Yanks sooner would lose the division to the O’s or Rays than the Sox. They still have the biggest lead of any first place team.

      • TomH

        Everything about this post is wrong. Of course, the Sox can leap frog–easily too–four teams. Those teams are packed like sardines, making it easy for such a leap. And having “the biggest lead of any first place team” at this point in the season is meaningless: look at the period from about July 20th to July 31 in 1978. Baseball history is replete with evidence that “still have the biggest lead,” at this point in the season, is a useless measure.

        • Klemy

          Just because all the teams are packed together doesn’t mean they’ll all stop winning while Boston wins or NY loses. The idea of leap frogging a bunch of teams being hard is due to the fact of unpredictability of all involved.

    • rogue

      The Yankees may collapse, but the Red Sox are definitely watching the playoffs from their homes, or if they can get tickets.

  • dalelama

    You guys are just twisting your selves into knots over a team that isn’t going to win the WS anyway. Relax and enjoy life. These guy are cooked. For 2.5 years we have seen these guys fold like a cheap suit when it matters and with no minor league help on the way it is only going to get worse.

    • Jim Is Bored

      Why do you even post here? Why do you even root for this team?

      You’re either a master troll or someone who I’d never want to meet in real life because of your damn negativity. Holy shit.

      • RI$P FTW

        “I don’t like people who have opinions that are different than mine!!!! waaaa!!!”

  • NYCSPORTZFAN

    This isnt totally unexpected in my opinion.. I’ve been saying for a month now, we need to get a Right Handed Hitter with Thump and anotehr Reliever.. As many know, i mentioned a trade for Huston Street and Carlos Quentin quite a few times on here, and those 2players aren’t the point, as much as why i said it would be a solid trade..

    First off, u got Corey Wade, Cody Epply, Clay Rapada, and Boone Logan.. What do they all got in common? They pretty much are cast offs and nobody wanted em, and u could have em for very little to nothing.. Did they magically figure out how to not only pitch brilliantly, but all at the same time? No, it was a matter of time befoer slowley these guys started turning back into what they pretty much are, and thats ineffective pitchers. We hold on to all of our scrap heap players untill it finally goes from a bargain signing or trade, to having the bum player back in there bum ways..

    I wish Cashman would start realizing u get rid of guys a day early, instead of a day late.. From Andruw Jones, to Frededy Garcia, to Logan, to Rapada to Wade, to all these guys, he’ll keep around untill there little fling of good play is completley over, and we’ve got guys blowing games left and right..

    I can’t beleive he let Colon go.. I thought for sure he was gonna bring colon and garcia back..lol

    Anyhow, this is why i brought up getting a more surer thing in the bullpen, like a Huston Street, Brandon League, or someone like that..

    People gotta stop worrying about next yr and the yr after, and realize were fairly close to having a WS type team this yr, and that is all that matters.. U gotta do everything in ur power to win it this yr, when ur so close…

    • TomH

      ur? ur? U?

  • Mike HC

    Am I the only one who notices that Jeter constantly coughs. At bat. In the field. Every game. Half the time the camera is on him. I have noticed it before for years, but this year it just seems constant. Is he just perpetually sick? Closet cigarette smoker (I highly doubt)?

    • TomH

      No, you’re not the only one. My wife began noticing it several weeks ago.

    • rek4gehrig

      It’s something he does when he is nervous. We’ve all got our little quirks.

  • pat

    Love how many pro managers and GM’s we have here at RAB. Amazing stuff.

    • JohnC

      When the team loses a few games, everybody instantly becomes a GM. You should know that by now

      • Klemy

        Come on, it’s a thread where we’ve lost 8 of 11. If you really expect people to not be negative…I don’t even know what to say. It’s just people venting and you can’t take everything said at face value. Everyone has different tolerance levels.

  • Bavarian Yankee

    meh, the game was kinda what I expected :/

    the trade deadline will be fun today. tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if the Yankees make several moves but I also wouldn’t be surprised if they just stand pat.

    Will Mike do a chat today?

    • Klemy

      This is kind of how I felt about it. With Arod going down, I guess I half expected the offense to kind of struggle or try too hard for a few games. At least, Cano looks this way to me.

  • Jose M. Vazquez

    The truth is that the teams in our own division have been getting better and younger while we have been the opposite. No team fears the Yankees any more and you can throw any unknown pitcher at this team and he will probably win. I believe tat we built the wide lead we once had on the backs of National League teams and would probably have the same record or less than the teams that trail us at the moment. To close this, I’d like to say what I said last year, we need to get younger. We need to give our youngsters priority.

    • Jose M. Vazquez

      Would have the same record were it not for the NL.

    • Klemy

      Are you saying that the team with the largest division lead in baseball should not try to win now, in favor of getting younger – mid-season?

      Giving youngsters priority = what teams who have no shot at the playoffs do

      There is no automatic formula to winning every year. No matter how good anyone on the team is, it still comes down to pivotal moments during October. That’s what makes a long season great.

      Sure, we need to get younger at some point, but the contracts in place to some people, in order to win now, don’t allow for every position to get younger. High end talent players don’t take 2 year deals.

      • Jose M. Vazquez

        I did not imply that we should not win now nor that we can get younger at the end of the season. This has to be a gradual process and you are correct, certain contracts are an impediment but you can rejuvenate at other positions.

    • Kosmo

      which youngsters are you referring to ? the youngsters who are 2-4 years away or the few mid to low -level prospects we have scattered around AA and AAA?

  • Eddard

    Cashman needs to make a big move today for a change. In recent years he has done very little at the deadline always losing out on the big splash. He has another chance to get Cliff Lee which would give us a rotation to compete with the Angels. He needs to pick up another 3rd baseman who can also play 1st. The bullpen has been exposed with all these 1 run losses so we need help there as well. A big bat who is a clutch hitter is also necessary if the WS is our goal.

    • pat

      A big bat who is a clutch hitter is also necessary if the WS is our goal.

      And those are just floating around?