Fan Confidence Poll: August 13th, 2012

Yanks unable to finish sweep, lose 10-7 to Jays
8/13-8/16 Series Preview: Texas Rangers

Record Last Week: 4-3 (45 RS, 40 RA)
Season Record: 67-47 (566 RS, 469 RA, 68-46 pythag. record), 5.0 games up in AL East
Opponents This Week: vs. Rangers (four games, Mon. to Thurs.), vs. Red Sox (three games, Fri. to Sun.)

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Given the team's current roster construction, farm system, management, etc., how confident are you in the Yankees' overall future?
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Yanks unable to finish sweep, lose 10-7 to Jays
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  • nyyankeefanforever

    Fyi, I clicked on a rating number and when the results popped up it didn’t record my vote.

    • nyyankeefanforever

      Oops, never mind. It showed up about a minute later. :-)

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Give it a second, it takes some time to record after it’s first posted.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    We’ll drop to an 8 because, no matter how clean the MRI, you never want to hear the terms “CC Sabathia” and “stiff elbow” in the same sentence.

    Otherwise, this is the still the team and organization we’ve been watching all year, and that team still has a nice first-place lead.

  • Strat

    Haha… Nice that the trolls vote early. Already have a 1 and a 2 vote up there.

  • Eddard

    I think I was at an 8 last week and now I’m down to a 6. We’re down to one reliable starter. Best two starters- gone. HOF closer- gone. HOF 3B- gone. Starting LF- gone. The season depends on CC, Andy, and Alex returning fully healthy and two of those players are old. And can we get by vs Texas and Chicago without them? I don’t think we will. The Rays are charging with the return of their best player. It’s amazing how we couldn’t put more distance between them and us with Longoria hurt for 3 months.

    • Tim

      NY picked up 8′ games over the 86 game stretch he missed. How many games should they have picked up? That’s pretty decent number of games.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        162. You want them to completely overlap the rest of the division.

    • Erica

      I mean… I think we’re doing pretty well without those key players.

      That’s just me, though.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        It’s also Eddard after breakfast. I’m thinking he’s got strange hypoglycemia-like thing that affects how he feels about baseball before and after he eats. We should test this out. Axisa, send the lab team out to Eddard.

        • Erica

          Maybe different foods have separate effects on him. You know… additives and all that.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Antioxidants.

          • MannyGeee

            someone should send some pomegranites and almonds and such over to Eddards place.

            • Erica

              How about we chip in for an Edible Arrangements basket?

              • Robinson Tilapia

                They gotta make money somehow.

        • gc

          He’s Dory from Finding Nemo.

    • Oaktag

      You are always proclaiming bogus ultimatums–he has to go seven innings, the team must win two of three games, the season depends on three players returning fully healthy.

      What’s the deal? Are you betting your house on these outcomes? Are you a mobster making veiled threats? Are you Turkish royalty?

      Until the team is facing an elimination game, give the “must-win” crap a rest, huh?

    • TomH

      Your opponents’ superior pitching does have such effects.

  • Erica

    Still at an 8. Nothing seems dire. Even though we have some major players on the DL, I don’t get that doom-and-gloom feeling.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Eddard’s at a -4. Oh wait…..he’s at a 9……oh wait……

      • jjyank

        He’s at a 6 now, but probably will get to 25 by lunch and -90 by dinner.

        • Erica

          Negative infinity?

          • Robinson Tilapia

            This is where we need Brian S.’s calculus skills.

            • Erica

              Or an MIT grad… wait, did Brian S go to MIT? Killing two birds with one stone, then.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                We have an MIT nerd. That hasn’t worked out so well.

                • jjyank

                  We had someone who claimed to go to MIT. I need to see his transcript before I believe he’s not a high school drop out.

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    It’d be hilarious if, under “name,” it read “Typical MIT Nerd.”

                    • Gonzo

                      I always assumed that he never went to MIT. He was just “typical” in that he can’t talk to women.

  • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

    7.

    If CC, Pettitte and Arod come back healthy and playing well for the postseason, they have as good a chance as anyone but for the future, this team needs an infusion of youth and there isn’t much in AA and AAA at this point and there’s also hamstrung in free agency in 2014 and 2015 by the $189 cap.

    • Tim

      That cap might help them get out of the 8 year $190 million Cano contract request. I would be happy if they don’t overpay to watch him get old.

      • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

        8/$190 is absurd but I’d give him 5/$100

  • Erica

    Can we also just take a moment to appreciate Eric Chavez? He is FANTASTIC.

    • jjyank

      +1

    • Sarah

      Good call. Way to be awesome, Chavy!

    • MannyGeee

      Enjoy Chavez now, because he’s always one hustle out double or breaking-pitch-without-break from being gone for the season…

      That said, he’s been an absolute godsend.

  • Jag

    I’ve been an at 8 or 9 the since their run when they won 10 or 11 in a row, 8 more recently with their disappointing road trips. However, I’m dropping to a 7 for this week just based on the CC news. Anything with an elbow is a cause for concern… I’m hoping to be proven wrong though.

  • BK2ATL

    Sticking with an 8.

    CC’s latest injury doesn’t appear to be serious at all at this point. More cautionary than true injury. Since he was sure that he could pitch today, I’m guessing that the Yankees’ are giving him this time to rest it, esp. with a sizable lead in the standings.

    While I think Phelps could cover the rotation spot for CC in the meanwhile, I understand the Lowe move for the Yankees’ reliance on “veteran presents.” Not a fan of Lowe at all, but I understand the move over, say a Adam Warren or Brett Marshall, with Texas, Boston and the ChiSox up to bat vs. us over the next week.

    Gonna be interesting coming down the stretch with a rested CC and Pettitte, then A-Rod also comes back.

    Prospect-wise, that’s all been covered already. We’re fine.

  • steve s

    I’ve been voting 7/8 most of the year but taking a hard look at the schedule over the next 30 days, and most likely playing without Andy and Arod during that entire time and CC shut down for the first 10 games of that stretch, I’m not that confident anymore (down to a 5). The next 10 games are Tex for 4 (home), Bos for 3 (home) and White Sox for 3 (road). Then there is a breather with 3 at Cle and 3 home against Tor. Next comes 10 games against Bal (7 of which 4 are on the road) and Tam (3 on road). If Yanks are in first after that stretch which ends Sept 9 then fine but I don’t think playing .500 ball (13 and 13) over that stretch will keep them in first and I don’t see them playing much better than .500.

    • Eddard

      This is what I was saying. These are some tough games coming up and we’re down to one reliable starter. I’m not confident at all in Nova and Freddy vs Texas. Good thing fly ball Phil doesn’t pitch in this series. Phelps-Dumpster could be one we could win but how long can Phelps go? Pen was burned up yesterday thanks to Phil. The Rays withstood their best player being out for 3 months. He’s back and now they’re charging, 10 game lead reduced to 5. Let’s hope by the end of August it’s not down to 0.

    • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

      Wait, you think that the Rays or Orioles will go 18-8 or better over the next 26 games? That’s .700 baseball.

      • steve s

        Rays can for sure (Balt schedule is tougher but depends alot on how their 7 games against the Yanks go).

        • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

          Sure, any team *can* go .700 over 26 games. But you said you don’t think going .500 over the next 26 games will keep the Yankees in 1st place. That seems to mean that you think the Rays or Orioles will go .700 over that same time span, which is a little extreme.

          I’m pretty sure if the Yankees go .500 over their next 26 games, they’ll still be in 1st place.

          • steve s

            Rays are 11-3 over the last 14. They are very capable of going 18-8 over the next 26 (in this case by “can” I mean reasonable liklihood not just a theoretical possibility).

            • Robinson Tilapia

              It’s not a reasonable likelihood that any team will go 18-8 in the their next 26 games. You’re confusing what “capable” means. I agree they’re capable. I just don’t think it would happen.

              I’d say the Yanks would have a good chance at staying in first place by going .500 the rest of the way. I’d rather not test out whether that’s true or not.

              • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

                Just to put a number on it, if you assume the Rays are a .600 team (which is being generous), the probability of them winning at least 18 out of 26 games is around 22%.

                Certainly possible, but I disagree with steve’s original statement, “I don’t think playing .500 ball (13 and 13) over that stretch will keep them in first.”

  • LarryM.,Fl.

    I’m down to 8 from 8+. I believe the team on positional basis is good to beat anyone out there. This means No Gardner or a reduced Arod when he comes back. My issue is the pitching especially the rotation. CC may come back as indicated with a short stint on the DL. But I don feel he’ll be his usual self with innings being removed from bullpen use. Chavez will get the bulk of the duty at third and McGehee looks OK. Girardi can move people around with the bench. The OF has been strengthen with Ichiro. Its just the rotation in the final analysis if we go the distance. We battle this issue every year of late. Its the one aspect of the game that Cashman tries but the plans go astray more often than not. Hidecki, Nova and Hughes are Ok against the most teams on any given night but the playoffs have shown winning is about all the pieces coming together. I have some negative vibes with the rotation.

    • Betty Lizard

      I tried to vote “7” but just couldn’t do it. So let’s call me am 8 minus minus.
      Like you, my greatest unease is with the rotation, coupled with diffuse anxiety about Rodriguez, Pettite and now Sabbathia.
      What hasn’t changed is my delight in seeing the contributions of Chavez and Voldemort and even McGeHee and others and my pleasure in watching Ichiro.

    • Erica

      Who’s “Hidecki”?

      • Robinson Tilapia

        He’s our all-purpose Asian.

        • Erica

          You win the Interwebs for today.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I give it ten minutes before someone calls that racist.

        • LarryM.,Fl.

          Spelling 6 on the confidence level. All purpose Asian was a good one!.

  • http://yankeesblogtbnl.blogspot.com Derek

    I am at 7. I’m not concerned about winning the division or anything. Baltimore will fall out. I’m sure the Rays will keep it interesting but they’ll fall short.

    I would be higher if not for CC’s injury. It’s hard to buy any positive spin on an elbow injury.

  • blake

    big big week for the Yanks. Need to try and weather the storm here with this 4 gamer vs Texas, then Boston, then the White Sox…..

    of course the Rays are starting a series with the Mariners today but at least they will see Felix…..need to at least split this series with Texas….

    CC’s injury couldn’t have come at a worse time with the schedule being what it is…..having to start a series with the Rangers with a rookie who isn’t even stretched out anymore and Derek Lowe backing him up isn’t ideal. Good opportunity for Phelps to step up.

  • Rich in NJ

    Starting Phelps (no matter how he pitches tonight) is a really smart move because it is not out of the question that he could be their #3 starter in the playoffs.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      If David Phelps is the Yankees’ #3 starter in the playoffs, it will likely involve an asteroid hitting the side of the stadium.

      • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

        Not necessarily. I would have said the same thing about AJ pitching in the playoffs last year at this time of year.

        All it would take is Andy not coming back (can easily happen), Phelps pitching very well for the next 1.5 months (can easily happen), and Nova, Hughes, and Freddy pitching relatively poorly over that time (can easily happen).

        Obviously I wouldn’t root for any of that to happen except for Phelps pitching well, but it’s not that unrealistic that he’ll have a prominent place in the playoffs, and I’m actually pretty excited to see if he can keep up his performance as a starter for a reasonable length of time.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          At this point in his career, David Phelps is not AJ Burnett. AJ, at least, had some positive performance in the past to hang his hat on.

          I think he could have a place in the playoffs. I think that, if he’s the #3 starter in the playoffs, it would have been a miracle the team made the playoffs in the first place.

      • Rich in NJ

        Really? It’s reasonable to question whether or not Pettitte will be himself given the healing process and the time required to regain his prior form, and Nova and Hughes have shown some inconsistency, which may or may not continue.

        Phelps, at his best, is a consistent, predictable middle of the rotation starter.

        The more important point is that inserting him back into the rotation demonstrates that the Yankees understand the value of starter over a non-closer reliever. That is encouraging.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          David Phelps has never pitched past the fifth inning as a major league starter. I like him too, but I spend more time arguing against the expectations people have of him on here than I do saying I like him.

          I’m guessing we’re assuming CC comes back healthy and that Kuroda remains Kuroda. In order for Phelps to insert himself into this conversation, at minimum, the bottom would have to fall off on Hughes, Nova, AND Garcia to the point where Girardi, not random-RAB-screenname, does not think they can start in the playoffs, combined with Phelps being a world-beater with the two starts he gets PLUS combined with either said bottom-falling-out on the others, removal from the rotation, additional opportunity, and enough success on his part. Oh yeah, I haven’t even gotten to Andy Pettitte yet.

          David Phelps is becoming the empty chair we project all our feelings onto.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I really wanted to include the phrase “and I suppose I could grow tits as well,” but that’s just opening me up for all sorts of comments, both baseball and non-baseball related.

          • Rich in NJ

            But we are talking about small sample sizes, and that often means, especially for developing players, that they over- or under-perform their true talent.

            Phelps has seemed hot lately. That could carry over for a couple of months.

            Will it? Who knows, but again, the point is that if he remained in the pen, that possibility is foreclosed. Now…it’s not.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              If all goes well, he’ll get about one start in which he’s even able to go 90 pitches or so. This is about as bullish a prognosis as it gets (well….not if you’re the other guys.)

              I like him. I hope he continues to work his way into the picture for 2013.

  • CS Yankee

    8, as they seem to be hanging in there despite rolling out a pretty weak lineup (or maybe thats the new norm as only 14 bats are above .300).

    CC, Arod, & Andy hopefully will be back at months end…weird thing is that the first seed might be at the disadvantage this year. beyond Verlander, I like the way we stack against the Tigers.