Game 119: Finish Them

Sabathia scheduled to throw bullpen session tomorrow
Homers, Nix lead Yanks to win over BoSox
(Mike Stobe/Getty)

The Yankees are sitting pretty with a six-game lead in the division while their greatest rival toils in fourth place with a sub-.500 record. This series means little in the grand scheme of things, but the Bombers have a chance to absolutely bury the Red Sox and remove the tiny little bit of hope they have left in their season. No mercy. Here’s the starting nine…

DH Derek Jeter
1B Nick SwisherMark Teixeira‘s wrist is acting up again
2B Robinson Canolooks like the neck is fine
RF Andruw Jones
3B Casey McGehee
CF Curtis Granderson
Russell Martin
SS Jayson Nix
LF Ichiro Suzuki

RHP Phil Hughes

Tonight’s game is scheduled to start a little after 7pm ET and can be seen on My9 locally and MLB Network nationally. Enjoy.

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Sabathia scheduled to throw bullpen session tomorrow
Homers, Nix lead Yanks to win over BoSox
  • newguy

    Ok I hate when the game is on MY9. I don’t know if it just me, but I dont have the option to make it HD. Either Comcast is screwing by not making it available or MY9 just sucks for not offering it. Any suggestions?

    • Laz

      Be grateful for what you have. Lost MY9 a few years ago.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Would be really nice to see a strong bounce back start from Hughes.
    Can’t say I’m optimistic that it will happen.

  • Big Member

    Today is firday august 17th. we are approxiamtely 81% done with the season. Yanks have been playing good but not great. Yesterday’s loss is an example of it. “Why do not the yankees play great big member?” you may ask. I have decided to take time and analyzed our team and came to the concussion that the answer lies in the depth of our outfield…

    Lets look at 2 players

    Number 1: 235 AVG, 135 K

    Number 2: .293 avg, 34 HR

    who are these people big member? you may ask. Well I can give you some hints. Number1 strikes out half the time he goes out to hit. his batting average is also very low. Well player number 2 had a .304 AVG and hit 32 home runs in his rookie year. He has won an MVP award. He has been an ALL Star for 5 straight years. Number 2 has also won a MVP award and hit 40 or so home runs out of the yankee stadium 1 in 2009 DURING 1 seession of the home run derby. Hm you would say why big member if only player number 2 we can have and only if we can give away number 1…I would repliy that we can actually have player 1. Beacuse he will be a free agent.

    That right falks its time for me to reveal hat player number 2 is none other than Josh Hamilton the man who crushed the Yanks last series. He is destined to be a free agent this year. Its very obvius that Yanks would love to have his bat. But as a baseball expert i know that yanks want to loose some budget money. I dont know why but Yanks are dead sat on spening less money. Well big member you may ask how will the yanks spend less money AND get Joshy? I have the answetr for you…

    Player number 1 is none other than Curtis Grabnderson. Next year, he pay check is 13 million doallars. Should a player who is hitting .235 with 68 RBI be earning 13 milion dollares?

    The answer is no. BUT there are teams who need even bad outfielders like Grabnderson. The San Francisco Giants are famous for their extravagent pitching but they are also notorioues for the terrible hitting. Giants will squal for the chance to aquire him. We should make them pay him his money and get a good player in return. Well who will we get in return big member you will ask. I have spend hours scouted Giants roster and found a good player who will fit good onm the Yankees. His name is Mad Bum’s Garden or Madison Bumgarner as his parents have named him He has 13 wins and an ERA under 3. Perfect fit for the Ynaks.

    The next step is to aquire Hamilton. If I were Hamilton, I would love to have a chance to play in new york. First, he will have freedom to do whatever he desires. Oh big member dont you know that he drinks haha. Well I dont see a problem with that. He has been an all star every year he has played. Look at Miguel Cabreara a famous drinker. He is one of the best hitters in the game. If anything, its much easier to find a liquior store in the Bronz rather than drive 20 miles in Texas to the nearest city. Also, the unlimited booze will only make Joshy better. Due to this great opportunity, Josh will take any deal. I think the Yanks can give him 5 years, 50 million total. They will save 3 million from trading Grabderson too!

    Lets look at the results
    Yanks get: Powerhouse hitter best in the game, solid back of the rotation pitcher, 3 million

    Thus imprving the team significantly

    • The Guns of Navarone

      This is gonna be a fun night.

    • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

      A+ post. Would read again.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      It would be even better than you say.
      Granderson’s option is for 15M next year.

      Get it done Cash.

    • RichYF

      Is he? Is he seri-

      Seriously, how long did you spend typing out that impossible riddle? I’m still stumped. Which one is the MVP again?

      • The Guns of Navarone

        You mean you haven’t come to that “concussion” yet?

        This is my favorite part…

        But as a baseball expert i know that yanks want to loose some budget money.

        This post simply keeps on giving.

        • jjyank

          I’m a fan of “Mad Bum’s Garden”, personally.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Go start a blog.

      • Get Phelps Up

        Make him a weekend writer!

        • The Guns of Navarone

          holycrappleaseyes

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          I Second this! He has to continue to use the pen name “Big Member” though.

      • Big Member

        speaking of starting did you get my email aboutt writing pieces here on the weekends?

        • The Guns of Navarone

          I’ll copy-edit his posts for free if you can make this happen Mike.

    • Josh Streeter

      Awesome post. Bag member is hillaros. I hope he learns one day to spell carectly. And right grammer.

      • Josh Streeter

        Oh forgot

        /sarcasm

    • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW)

      LOVE <3 <3 <3

  • jjyank

    I posted this in the series preview thread, but considering the title, and the fact that I enjoy it, I will post this link again:

    http://www.google.com/imgres?q.....3,s:0,i:81

  • Brian S.

    So we get to avoid Big Sloppy this weekend?

  • The Guns of Navarone

    For the love of God use that changeup Phil.

  • jjyank

    Swish loves him some garbage time!

  • The Real Greg

    Swisher’s on a roll

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Great AB

    Swish!!

  • Mike N

    SWISHALICIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Get Phelps Up

    Swisher has been a godsend for my fantasy team this week.

    • jjyank

      Same here. Especially since he went from being one of my UTIL players to my first baseman with Votto on the DL for me.

  • sangreal

    en fuego

  • The Real Greg

    So Cano and Grandy slumping of late, and yet we’ve been winning games

  • Mike N

    I missed the top of the inning. How is Hughes’s breaking stuff?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      He threw no curves that I recall. He threw a couple of decent change ups though.

    • Chilango

      the question is how will it be in the 4th?

      • The Real Greg

        With this weather, it might not matter.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Nice play Russ, but what the hell was McGehee doing?

    • jjyank

      Looked like he couldn’t see the ball. He kind of shrugged his arms in a way that would suggest that.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        yeah I didn’t notice that until the replay. At first it looked like he was just deferring to Martin.

    • The Real Greg

      He couldn’t find the ball. He lost it in the gray sky

  • jjyank

    Couple of good looking change ups in that AB.

  • Mike N

    Hughes looked good that inning!

    • Havok9120

      We’re gonna jinx it. =(

  • Chilango

    Hughes actually looks like a ML pitcher tonight. Let’s keep it up Phil..

  • Mike N

    RED SOCKS! By far.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    9(!) changeups so far for Hughes, only 1 curve
    The change looks pretty sharp.

  • The Real Greg

    Its the Red Sox because the Mets usually beat themselves

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    I really hate that guy.

    • Get Phelps Up

      I’m amazed how much I’ve grown to hate this guy who I didn’t even know existed before July of this year.

  • The Real Greg

    Are we sure this guy Ciriaco is crap?

    • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

      Yes.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Slumbuster!!!

    (hopefully)

  • Mike N

    GRAND!

  • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

    Damn, I switched from TV to radio about 3 seconds before Granderson’s homer because my connection was about to get slow. Should’ve waited 3 more seconds.

  • Mike N

    BACK TO BACK!!!!! RED SOCKS ARE WACK!!!!!!!!

  • Jag

    MARTIN! Back to back!!!

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Too many HR’s. :)

  • jjyank

    Someone call an ambulance for Betty Lizard!

  • jjyank

    damn it they must play 5 innings!!

  • Pat D

    There’s no way they’re completing this game. It’s still raining where I live in PA.

  • flamingo

    Wow, Martin.

  • The Real Greg

    The fact that they haven’t gone to a rain delay tells me their finishing this game one way or another

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    It would be a real shame for all of this to go to waste because of the rain.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Freaking customers. I heard every homerun. but couldn’t say anything about them.

    • jjyank

      You can go wild now, Plouffy.

  • Hummingbird S.

    why did they start this game in the first place?

    • The Real Greg

      That’s another point. They would not start it if they knew this would happen

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        It’s Yankees/Red Sox, and the only game that the local networks(YES/NESN) are going to get to carry this series. This game is happening w/o delays unless the rapture is happening.

        • Mike N

          The umpires have sole discretion to delay/call the game once it starts. I seriously doubt they give a shit about the desires of teevee networks.

  • jjyank

    I guess it’s encouraging that they’re just fixing the mound and the batter’s box instead of full on putting the tarp on. The forecast can’t look too terrible if they haven’t resorted to the tarp, right?

  • OMG! Bagels!

    Sometimes they put the tarp on way too quick but once they start it’s tough to stop. Looks like they’re going to play. Let’s get 5 in

  • Hummingbird S.

    can the ump suspend a game that does not complete 5 innings or it’s always cancelled?

    • Mike N

      Nope. If the game is not a regulation game when it gets called, then it’s just like it never started.

  • Mike N

    The radar looks like this is gonna pass over any minute.

  • jjyank

    Work quickly, Phil.

  • Chilango

    They started the game because the the line of T-storms was forecast to pass through by 8PM

  • The Real Greg

    Orioles are in trouble tonight. Facing Verlander and down 1-0 on a home run by….

    Surprise, Surprise..Miguel Cabrera

  • 28 this year

    Random question about defensive shifts.

    I was thinking about how the Yankees use Ichiro in LF in Yankee Stadium vs RF in other stadiums when combined with Jones. Now that shifts are starting to become popular, the next step might be to move a guy like Ichiro between LF and RF depending on the pull tendencies of the pitcher and batter so that the maximum range is achieved in the part of the field where the ball goes to. You guys think this is the next step in that? This could be applied all over the infield as well although its all limited by how versatile the defense is.

    • Mike N

      Are you allowed to switch the positions of the LF and the RF without doing a lineup switch?

      • 28 this year

        I would think so. You can place people where ever you want on the field. Remember how the Yankees used five infielders once this year?

        • Mike N

          Then why do they do double-switches? They could just move players anywhere they want on the field without altering the lineup.

          • CUYanks

            Double switches involving changing lineup spots. Players are locked into lineup spots, not positions.

    • jjyank

      It’s a nice theory, but teams don’t have enough players to do it. Like you said, it’s limited by how versatile the team is. Not many teams have a second basemen who can play short, or a first baseman who can play third. And if you over use your bench, you’re putting out a weaker line up. I think you might see that with a specific player or two, but that’s probably about it.

      • 28 this year

        Well at least the outfielder part. Most teams can switch the LF and RF.

        • jjyank

          Can they, though? Right fielders typically have stronger arms, and left fielders are often weak defenders. I mean, Adam Dunn used to be a left fielder. So did Matsui. Could Swisher play left? I’m not sure.

          Like I said, I like the theory. I just don’t think it would work in practice.

          • 28 this year

            Sorry, i was without my phone. I mean, RFs have stronger arms, etc. but that’s what I am talking about. RFs have stronger arms because it benefits them in a high percentage of situations like throwing to 3rd. The point of the shift is to get that percentage even higher so that your best assets like arm and range are in the spot most likely to be needed. That was why they had that designation in the first place, this idea takes it a step further.

  • Jag

    Let’s just get it to be official now, go Hughes!

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    I hate pitchers who can’t throw to second.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    WTF Phil?

  • Hummingbird S.

    Pathetic.. this is inexcusable

  • Jag

    Ugh, gotta get those….

  • The Real Greg

    He didn’t get a good grip on the ball. It was wet

    • Tom

      He made a shitty throw… somehow the fielders seem to be able to throw the “wet” ball (I don’t see them wiping the ball off before the throws)

      • The Real Greg

        I’ll take Singleton and Cone’s opinion over yours, thank you.

        • Tom

          A wet ball would have slipped our of his hand and gone arm side. He pulled the ball to his right – that is not the ball slipping out of the hand..

          Cone and Singleton may know more about baseball but they are wrong on this.

          It was just a poor throw.

          • Mike N

            He could have overgripped to try to compensate for the wet ball, thus making it the fault of the wet ball.

            • Tom

              The ball bounce ONCE on the way to him.. it wasn’t dunked in a bucket of water. It’s not like it rolled on the wet grass to an OF’r.

              I find it amazing how Cano was able to throw the “wet” ball to first base on the DP attempt.

          • jjyank

            A ball can only slip in only one direction? Good to know. He didn’t have a grip on the ball. I’m not going to complain given the conditions.

            • Tom

              Look at the replay he HELD onto the ball too long and jerked it into the ground. That is not the ball slipping out of his hand.

              If it slips out of his hand it is either going up or arm side (depending on your release angle)

              • jjyank

                If it’s wet, he may not have gotten a grip either, it may not have “slipped”. You’re analyzing this too much.

  • Arya

    Idiot Hughes. You just knew that was going to happen. Take your time, dummy.

  • Mike N

    Damn wet ball!

  • Chilango

    Fuck

  • Mike N

    Will they call a throwing error if it is due to a wet ball? I guess so, right?

  • flamingo

    And of course it’s Ciriaco at bat now.

  • Widget

    Nothing like letting the garbage beat you. Thanks for the effort Phil.

  • Ichy balls

    Hughes needs a shrink he is a headcase
    Watch him give the lead up here

    • Mike N

      It was a wet ball. Are you nuts?

    • Ichy balls

      Told ya

  • Mike N

    They should just concede the runner at third and play it like a man on first.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Wow, Yankees vs Red Sox still brings out the trolls like no tomorrow. Phil has allowed a bloop single and made an error and he’s already getting crucified.

    Ps: FUCK YOU GIRAFFE MAN.

    • Big Member

      The racism needs to stop. Ciriaco gets enough hate from Bostn racists.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        This has nothing to do with race, he could be fucking purple he’s still has the face/neck of a fucking giraffe.

        • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

          I think you forgot who you were responding to. Good one, BM.

        • Big Member

          you obvisly never took biology in school. georaphs only live in 1 country and that 1 country is africa. you may have made a rsist reamrk with out reaizing tho. if thats the case its ok.

          • Get Phelps Up

            Your spelling never fails to make me laugh.

  • Ichy balls

    Yeah ciriaco kills us again.

    • Hummingbird S.

      that was no killing… it’s Hughes that’s killing the yankees

      • Mike N

        Are you watching a different game than I am? Because I am not seeing the Yankees getting killed.

        • Mike N

          Uuuuuhhhhhhhh. Never mind.

    • Hall and Nokes

      By weakly grounding into a force out?

  • Arya

    There’d be 2 out and a runner on 3rd, no RS if Hughes had just taken his time. If you only get one out, so be it. Just don’t throw the ball into CF and get no outs. He’s gotta learn.

    • The Real Greg

      Of course part of that is fallacy, but you’re right, that’s what he should have done.

      The problem is that Scott Podsednik is quick and might have beaten it out

    • jjyank

      Eh, I won’t get all worked up over it since the ball was wet. Should he have made the throw? Yes. But I won’t bitch about it given the conditions. I don’t think this has anything to do with “learning” something.

  • Chilango

    Let’s go Phil suck it up.

  • Hummingbird S.

    lots of foulballs..

  • Thaaaaaaaayankeeswin

    Hughes can not finish

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Isn’t he in the top 15 of K/9 in the AL?

  • Widget

    I don’t think he threw enough pitches to Lullsbury. Throw him a few more. I will not misses Hughes one bit when he’s gone.

  • Chilango

    He’s starting to miss his spots.

  • The Real Greg

    And of course, before everyone gets out of hand, this game means very little in the standings

    • Widget

      True, in fact none of the games in this series really mean anything. But it’s still nice to win.

    • Get Phelps Up

      before everyone gets out of hand

      I think you’re a little late.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        +1

      • Havok9120

        A bit.

    • Rek4gehrig

      I don’t understand why people keep saying this. We need to win games. We lose three and orioles win three lead is down to 3. Unless I am missing something

  • jjyank

    Fuck.

  • Cy Pettitte

    nice inning.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Phuckin’ Phil.

  • The Real Greg

    MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Means the same as every other game.
      Stop being a complete fucking moron please.

    • Hummingbird S.

      you’re right, they are holding preseason games in august now. As usual, a dumbass comment

    • Havok9120

      Eh, wot?

      I mean, how many games are we supposed to just accept “eh, doesn’t matter” as the order of the day? Yesterday we were supposed to not care because we were “destined to lose the game” or somesuch nonsense and now….what? Because we have a lead in the division its no longer necessary to win games?

  • Hummingbird S.

    typical Hughes… shitty pitcher

  • Ichy balls

    There is the meatball
    Fuck you hughes

    • Mike N

      Meatball was exactly my thought. A big fat fucking meatball with nice tasty tomato sauce and some grated parmigiano reggiano just served right up on a fucking silver platter.

  • Pat D

    Nice fucking job, Phil. Throw a ball away, give up a home run to the sniveling little rat faced git.

    I’m done defending your ass.

  • Havok9120

    Ooof.

  • Arya

    Fly ball Phil is just awful in this stadium. Trade him to the NL and be away with him. Would have been out of the inning had he taken his time and gotten one out on that comebacker. Now, he might have cost us the ballgame.

    • jjyank

      Did you bother to check his splits before this comment? His stats are actually better at home than on the road.

      • jjyank

        Well, his standard stats are, anyway. 3.74 ERA at home, 5.31 ERA on the road. His xFIP is 4.66 to 4.09 though. Still.

    • Ichy balls

      That was out in san diego and seattle atlanta old shitty field etc

  • Al Davis

    unreal how many homers hughes gives up

    WOW

    • Hummingbird S.

      you can live with the homers… the problem was that goddamn throw to second. The guy throws a ball for a living but cant hit second base from the mound.

  • Chilango

    Missed his spot. Happy b’day Pedroia

  • wow

    well, that escalated quickly.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Yankees need another solid non-OOGY in the pen.
    CC coming back soon.
    Phelps pitching well so far in the rotation.

    1+1+1 = Bullpen Phil?

  • The Real Greg

    And his stats will look good. All 4 runs unearned.

  • Widget

    Pathetic. Just a complete embarrassment. Way to give up a homer to a light hitting asshole that has proven to be a below average player but an above average asshole. I hate Hughes almost as much as Pedroia. Almost.

    • The Real Greg

      You are a total idiot.

    • Heisenberg’s Hat

      Pedroia is a below-average player now?

    • Havok9120

      Erm.

      I understand in theory why Hughes is so polarizing. The anger in game threads on his day to pitch still leaves me baffled though.

  • The Real Greg

    STOP THE OVERREACTION!

    • Pat D

      I’m not overreacting. I’m sick of Hughes making a mistake and not being able to keep his head out of his ass as a result.

    • Hummingbird S.

      start thinking before you write, please

    • Tom

      Your cap locks is stuck… but hey at least YOU AREN’T OVERREACTING BY TYPING IN ALL CAPS TELLING PEOPLE TO CALM DOWN.

  • teddy

    phil hughes is a scrub, the only way bos can beat ny, is because ny chokes against them

    • jjyank

      ?

      • Havok9120

        See, the Sox are a below .500 team. Ergo, we should never lose to them.

        /theseguys’d

        • jjyank

          Someone (I forget who) was actually serious about using that logic a few weeks ago. Good times.

  • Mike N

    Ugh.

  • Rivera Venue Blues

    Dammit, why do not the yankees play great big member?

  • The Guns of Navarone

    I would really love for ONE of Nova or Phil to step it up and take a rotation spot in the playoffs without making the fanbase cringe but it doesn’t look very possible. I wouldn’t be surprised if they went with Freddy and put both of them in the pen.

    • The Real Greg

      It won’t matter. They would the 4th starter.

      • The Guns of Navarone

        So this game doesn’t matter. Hughes’ performance doesn’t matter. The fourth starter doesn’t matter. What does matter???

        • The Guns of Navarone

          And this is assuming CC stays healthy and effective and Andy comes back healthy and effective. It would be nice to have some confidence in your starting pitching no matter what number you attach to them.

  • Ichy balls

    Get lowe up. Rather see him at least keep the ball down.

  • Thaaaaaaaayankeeswin

    Everyone can say this game means nothing, and maybe that’s true. But what does mean something is starting pitchers inability to hold leads given to them.

    • The Real Greg

      It means that the Yankees aren’t going to win the World Series. If you start with that expectation, this isn’t so bad.

    • Rek4gehrig

      The game may mean nothing wrt our standings vs the sox but it means a lot wrt to the rays or orioles.

    • TomH

      Everyone can say this game means nothing, and maybe that’s true.

      People who say this are wrong and know nothing about baseball history. By the way, the “everyone” is the giveaway: a crowd is the untruth.

  • Arya

    I’d get Lowe up and see what he can do against his former club. At least Lowe is a sinkerballer and not a fly ball pitcher like Phil. Hughes is just to prone to the HR and that’s not a good mix with this stadium. They need to trade him to the NL where he can flourish like AJ.

  • TomH

    You know he’s heading for trouble when he gets into those 2-strike counts and can’t close the deal.

    Yes, he’s better off in some nice big NL ballpark where he can face a pitcher 3-4 times/game.

    • Tom

      He’d probably flourish in a big park… I think he wouldn’t be going for the K and be a bit more efficient.

    • Ichy balls

      San diego + Flyball Phil = cy young er not.

  • Athenian

    Certainties in life…. Death, taxes, and Phil Hughes giving up the lead and a HR. experiment is over as he regresses back to the mean.

  • Keith Evans

    Hughes blows about 15 pitches on a 3-2 count — as usual. Hughes serves up a big meatball to squander a nice lead — as usual. Just heard that these runs are “unearned” so they don’t count against his ERA. Even though they’re unearned because of an error Hughes committed,and then they only happened after that because he’s a terrible pitcher. I do not understand why he has a job. If I performed at my job like he does I would be fired. If I had a job. The 4-5 spots in this rotation are embarrassing. I hope to god that Pettite can pitch well in the postseason. In the meantime even after Sabathia comes back Phelps should continue to start, get this hack out of the rotation.

  • Betty Lizard

    RUSSELL MARTIN HIT A HOME RUN AND I DIDN’T GET TO SEE IT!
    AND HIS AVERAGE IS AT .200!

    Damn you work. Damn you to hell.
    But I do have chips and fresh salsa from the little taqueria down the ally. So good.

  • Ichy balls

    Robbie with the hr fake out
    Bet sterling missed that one too.

  • Hummingbird S.

    unfortunate.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    I can live through Phil’s homers, especially apart from the last 3 starts they’ve come with nobody on base, but he cannot be allowing baserunners in front of the homers he is going to give up.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Just woke up, and I see the Red Sox were down early, until Hughes gave it all back.

    That’s just shocking to see Hughes implode like that.

    Asshole.

    • Kramerica Industries

      Oh, AND it was with two outs.

      Even more shocking.

  • Big Member

    Ugh if a picther makes an error and the run scores is the run considered earned? becasue techniquietly its on the picther…

  • Hall and Nokes

    Lemme guess–Sterling has that as the best catch you’ll ever see.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      He actually didn’t say that for a change. But he has seen 10000000000000000000000000 best catches you’ll ever see.

  • Hummingbird S.

    it’s nice that Andruw hit a HR yesterday but that doesnt change the fact that he has an .295 OBP overall and .281 against LHPs. What’s the point of having a lefty masher that can’t mash lefties?

  • teddy

    hughes era should be close to 5th

  • Pat D

    If I see that commercial with the Grease song being used to sell cars one more time, I could very well kill my mother.

    • Pat D’s Mom
      • Pat D

        Alright, which one of ya was that?

        • jjyank

          Guilty.

          • Pat D

            Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…………………

            • jjyank

              Did I offend? I thought it was funny. My apologies if not.

              • Pat D

                No, it didn’t offend. Just had an argument with her about the quality of Grease.

                She thinks it’s “fun.”

                I know it’s a “piece of shit.”

                • jjyank

                  Haha gotcha.

              • Havok9120

                It was.

  • Hummingbird S.

    more foulballs!

  • DERP

    How has Hughes looked so far?

    • Ichy balls

      He threw a nice fat meatball to ratboy that he hit out of the park. To give them the lead after being given a three run lead.

    • Havok9120

      He looked good, we jinxed it, he threw a double play ball into the outfield, then walked a guy, then gave up a 3 run homer.

      Good times.

  • Tom

    By the way that first pitch to Ross was middle-middle, but since it was a change, Ross was way out in front of it.

    Cone mentioned it earlier, I think one of the reasons righties are hitting him so much better is that he is primarily a 2 pitch pitcher against righties (curve/fastball). Would like to see the Yankees teach their pitchers that if you can locate a change it doesn’t only need to be thrown to opposing handed batters.

  • DERP

    Why is Justin Verlander such a piece of shit?

  • Kramerica Industries

    Oh, now he can get strike three.

  • Mike N

    We can definitely get to the Socks’s pitchers if we don’t let this get out of hand.

  • Ichy balls

    Someone should teach phil the spitball.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    So John and Suzyn are talking about wins for a pitcher, especially relief pitchers, being overrated. I find myself thinking, wow I can’t believe they’re actually talking sense. Then as example they use a pitcher for the Washington Senators during like the 60s, in the All Star game. I mean, they for once were actually making good points, and talking sense, then almost like they were thinking “oh, most listeners are actually following our conversation” they re-alienate their base by using an example from long before they were born.

    • Mike N

      They really don’t care who’s listening or paying attention, just like the drunken old codgers at your family Thanksgiving dinner.

    • TomH

      they re-alienate their base by using an example from long before they were born.

      Do you really believe this? that “long before you were born” is the 1960s? And that kids your age are in any way shape or form a “base” among baseball fans? Or that this saber cliche about “wins” being overrated is a test case of whether a person is worth listening to about baseball?

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        If somebody was born in 1962 they’d have no idea about baseball until the earliest 1969ish and would also be 50. Something tells me that there are more baseball fans 50, because most of the population is in fact under 50.

        • TomH

          You think so? Ever hear of books about baseball?

          “Long ago” was not the 1960s. You’ll see. Remember this exchange when you do. It’ll make you laugh as you look back at your (presently) naive view of time.

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            That’s because a lot of people writing baseball books are baseball historians, who are generally older people, writing about baseball from when they were younger. To me, a 23 year old, 1960 was a long ass time ago, especially when talking about a bullpen pitcher from that time. Also, people like to romanticize the distant past, and for baseball (which is about 130 years old) the distant past is 80-100 years ago. The reason people do that is because they can say whatever the fuck they want and there are few to no people who can stand up and say “Your full of shit, baseball was not better in the 1930s than it is now.”

            • TomH

              OK, I can see you’re in serious thought-trouble now. How do I know this? Your language is collapsing, obscenities, scatology, in order (you think) to make your weak case seem strong. It’s not. Moreover, no one is arguing that baseball was better in the 1930s or 1960s. I’ll close only by saying that because his audience includes someone so seriously time-challenged he should therefore ignore everyone–and there are plenty of them–who remember the 1960s and this “bullpen pitcher” whose name you’ve already forgotten.

              Read more books from before you were born. They’re good for you.

      • Heisenberg’s Hat

        You can say many things about sabermetrics, but it’s most definitely not cliched.

        • TomH

          It is when you use it as a cliche. Check out the word’s meaning.

          • jjyank

            A cliche is: “is an expression, idea, or element of an artistic work which has been overused to the point of losing its original meaning or effect, especially when at some earlier time it was considered meaningful or novel.”

            That is certainly not the case with sabermetrics, unless you read Fangraphs and literally nothing else.

            • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

              There’s parts of the internet not called Fangraphs/MLBtr/RAB?

              • jjyank

                Heh. And MLBTR uses mostly traditional stats too. Calling sabermetrics a “cliche” is absurd.

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                  That’s because the focus of the content at MLBTR is the rumors and the news, not necessarily the player’s performance. We usually limit it as well, to the batter’s line, homers, and plate appearances, then innings, K/9 and BB/9 for pitchers. No wins, RBI, etc.

  • Matt

    Hughes is actually pitching pretty well tonight. It’s really more about the inexcusable throwing error that set up the Red Sox for a big inning.

    Hughes was coming up on 25 pitches thrown in the inning at that point, and it was primarily his own fault. Pitchers tend to make mistakes in location as they approach that many pitches in an inning because they start to get fatigued.

    It’s the same thing that happened in Detroit. Hughes is a guy that needs to locate his fastball because he doesn’t change speeds well. He had some really tough at bats in that inning, and they clearly wore him down a bit.

    • Mike N

      You are too knowledgeable and sensible for RAB. Where did you come from?

      • Havok9120

        Now, now, don’t bash the commenters based on the silliness of a Yanks/Sox game and a Hughes start, to boot. Its not representative.

    • jjyank

      Yeah, I agree. The throwing error sucks and the pitch to that munchkin guy was a meatball, but he’s looked good otherwise. After April, Hughes has exceeded my expectations.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Matt..reappearing with logic. Wow. Talk about a plot twist.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Wow, knew I was 0/2 on that trivia.

    Even though Rickey & Mickey seemed to make a lot of sense.

  • Big Member

    My fatass roomate stole the remote and took my bong hostage. Is it still raining? Chance of the game lasting after 9 becasue the bitch usually dozes of after that

    • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW)

      Tell your mom to give it back.

    • Mike N

      Dude, don’t call yourself bitch.

      The greatest love of all
      Is easy to achieve
      Learning to love yourself
      It is the greatest love of all

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    I know Batting Average isn’t a huge deal, but our 5-6-7 are hitting a combined .223. That’s…just not that good.

    • TomH

      Nonsense! Of course batting average is a “big deal.” Sometimes people on this board sound like a statisticized version Laurence Harvey in the real version of “The Manchurian Candidate.”

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        When I say batting average isn’t a ‘huge deal’ I’m saying I’d much rather somebody with a line of .275/.390/.400 than a guy with a line of .300/.330/.400

        • jjyank

          Right. It’s a big deal, it’s just generally overrated. Hell, I’d rather have .220/.400/.400 than .310/.330/.400.

          Hits and BA contribute to OBP, so it’s plenty important. Just overrated by some people.

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            Personally I’d take option B. in that case, because .220/.400 would lead me to believe the player has an unsustainable walk rate.

            • jjyank

              Well if we’re talking sustainability, that’s different. I was positing this scenario in a vacuum.

              • TomH

                To leave the vacuum for a moment where we compare imagined BAs to imagined OBP’s, etc. I’d just like Swisher to have 20 more singles–everything else left as it is–20 more singles, balls hit through or over the infield, some will be with men on base, moving guys up in various ways, etc. It would give ol Swish what? a .320 average.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      And they’re responsible for two of their three runs.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        Don’t get me wrong, I totally appreciate the power on this team, I just feel like they’d benefit from another hit-for-average type guy.

  • DERP

    Delmon Young hit a foul ball and let go of the bat on the backswing and it hit the ump in the head.

  • Matt

    That error is even more costly because they might only get through 6 or 7 because of the rain. Even though it is still “early,” they might not have a ton more chances to rally. Morales is pitching this inning like he’s coming in out of the bullpen- emptying the tank- knowing the rain is coming and he won’t need to conserve as much energy.

  • Hummingbird S.

    time to get shutdown by Morales.. that old routine of scoring early and getting shutdown the rest of the way.

    • DERP

      You sound like a fun person.

  • Jag

    Hughes error may define this game, but the Yankees are by no means out of it. Just 1 run. They can come back.

    • jjyank

      Yep. Like I liked to say when RISPFAIL was at its worst, the Yankees have a runner in scoring position in just about every at bat. If Hughes/The Bullpen can hold the Sox down going forward, I feel good about this game.

  • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW)

    Anyone else scanning and control + F’ing for Big Member posts? I can’t stop.

  • DERP

    Fuck the Tigers.

  • Matt

    The Yankees pretty much just beat themselves this year. How many games can you point to in which the other team has legitimately outplayed them?

    Errors, baserunning blunders, loss of focus out on the mound after getting handed a lead. This team makes it much harder than it has to be on most nights. They wouldn’t be playing and losing so many one-run games if they weren’t keeping opposing teams alive by handing them extra outs and dropping routine fly balls.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Would you rather them get outplayed in their losses?

      • Hummingbird S.

        I rather they don’t make stupid mistakes like Hughes

      • Keith Evans

        Duh — they should just never lose.

      • Matt

        No, but it shows you how many opportunities they have wasted this year to completely pull away from their division rivals and focus on getting guys completely healthy for the stretch run. Guys like Teixeira would probably get a few extra days if the lead were bigger.

  • Chilango

    If we don’t score off Morales again I’ll eat Heisenberg’s hat.

    • Widget

      Hope you like hat.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        or not

  • Kramerica Industries

    I apologize if this becomes a theme for the rest of the game thread…

    I thought I was already insufferable enough with these home games with the Red Sox, given the Yankees atrocious record in these games.

    Combine that with me being tired even after a late afternoon dozer? Unreal.

  • The Guns of Navarone

    I don’t want this to sound like an OVERREACTION!!! but would it be such a terrible idea to have Hughes “reinvent” himself so to speak? Plenty of pitchers have done it before. Have him try out a two-seamer, have him go back to a slider, tweak his delivery, whatever it takes. I’m just spitballing here. A two-seamer combined with continued development of his changeup might help him induce weak contact early in the count and help with putting batters away.

    Right now, I think we’re in the kind of territory where something needs to happen if the Yankees want to get anything out of him as a starter in the future. He’s been nothing more than an average starter for the Yankees, and that’s fine at the price, but he’s about to get more expensive.

    I’m just saying that if they plan on keeping him, I’d like to see something change because what he’s doing isn’t working.

    • jjyank

      I was talking to someone on here (maybe Plouf? I can’t remember) about this a week or two ago. I also suggested maybe a two seamer, since his cutter didn’t work out. Worth a shot, no? Or anything for that matter.

      For the record, I don’t think Hughes is that bad. But I’m always down for improvement where it can be done.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        I was me, and the only thing I said that could be a negative is it could generate even more foul balls. The problem with Phil is, even though he has a great K rate, he allows far to many foul balls before finally getting the out.

        • jjyank

          Right. Maybe bringing back the slider as a put out pitch would be better, I dunno. Just thinking out loud.

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            I’d agree with that, as long as he limits his use of it, I mean it can’t exactly be a “useful” pitch if it shreds his elbow.

            • jjyank

              True. That’s only if the Yankees plan on bringing him back after 2013 though.

      • The Guns of Navarone

        Well, define “not bad.” His FIP over the last five years is 4.34, 3.23 (mostly in relief – 7 starts), 4.25, 4.58, and 4.76 this season. A FIP around mid 4 is fine for a back end starter at $3.2 million, but he’s eligible for arbitration again after this season and then a FA in 2014. For a team like the Yankees, who are always in contention, they might want to shoot for better. They could try a two-seamer this offseason and see if it sticks during the season as a last-ditch effort.

        • jjyank

          I’m talking about 2012 Phil Hughes. Outside of April, he hasn’t been that bad. That’s what I meant.

  • Ichy balls

    Another meatball to elsbury

  • Mike N

    Ichiro has been an outstanding defensive pickup (other than that missed catch last night).

  • Tom

    Jones would have had had that ball

    (when he picked it up after it stopped moving)

    • Tom

      Make that have had had had that ball…..

  • DERP

    I am beyong pissed that Justin Verlander is pitching like dick against the Orioles after completely shutting us down.

  • Big Member

    Scouting Report update: Huges looks very tired. in the 1st inning he was hitting 92 on the un but now he is hitting 90. i think this is good prove of that the yankees need to consider moving him to the bullepen. i remember he looked like an ace back then and now he makes sweaty fready look like an ace.

    • JLC776

      Aren’t you just repeating what the useless Gamecast auto-scout says? Wasn’t Hughes still hitting mid-90’s or so in the late innings in a very recent game?

      • Big Member

        no.i have a pair of eyes that i use. i see that hughes has slowed down. we cant have a itcher who slows down in the 4th ining. thats a big no no. you may be confusing hughes with another pitcher that we have, hiroki kuroda.

    • Matt

      It was really just that 3rd inning when his pitch count got elevated. He was back to 92-93 in the 4th inning.

      If you look at velocity charts by inning, you’d be surprised to see that there isn’t really a consistent pattern of velocity. Some of the good pitchers (CC/Verlander) hold something back, but others like Lester settle into lower velocities as the game goes along.

      • Matt

        Lester, when he was still a good pitcher that is

      • Big Member

        you mention legends (Sabathia/VERLANDER) but hughes ijust some ptcher whos biggest akomplishment is winning 18 games in a season

  • wow

    i see the offense has decided to take the rest of the night off.

    • DERP

      GFY

    • jjyank

      I see you are wrong.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      yep. 2.2 innings = rest of the night

  • JLC776

    Argh! Nothing more obnoxious than coming hard out of the gates against a pitcher and then giving them some really soft innings… This lineup is maddening sometimes.

    • JLC776

      Ha! Thanks, Jeter, for making me eat my words!

  • Cy Pettitte

    Thank you Cap’n.

  • jjyank

    Captain, my Captain. Thanks Jeets!

  • Hummingbird S.

    Jeets! With the power!!!

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    CAPT’N!!!!

  • Ichy balls

    Cappy puts us back in it. Fuck yeah

  • Mike N

    MOAR METS FANS JUST CONVERTED!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Havok9120

      One or two probably did though….

  • Arya

    Oh captain my captain!

  • Yank the Frank

    Oh captain my captain

  • DERP

    I hope Justin Verlander blows his arm out. Dumb fucking bitch.

  • Get Phelps Up

    I can’t say enough about how much fun Jeter’s resurgence has been to watch.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Whew.

    At least they aren’t trailing now. I’ll give Hughes two outs before the Sox lead again.

  • Chilango

    Jeter’s in double digits too now. Nice. Does Phil start the 6th?

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Depending on his pitch count I’d say yes. I mean apart from a throwing error and a homer in the 3rd he’s been very good.

      • Tom Q

        80 pitches? I’d be stunned if he didn’t stay in. Girardi, unlike the folks here, believes in his people.

        • JLC776

          He had like a 5 pitch inning in the top – and that includes a base hit. Outside of an error and one meatball, he’s doing really well tonight. Definitely stays in.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          Pft, he’s definitely coming out for the 6th and possibly the 7th as well. Like I said, apart from a bad throw to 2nd and a bad pitch to PEDroia he’s been very good.

        • Chilango

          I don’t trust Hughes in a close game beyond the 5th. He loses control of his pitches and unravels. I hope he proves me wrong…

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            You’re getting him confused with Nova. Hughes doesn’t exactly blow up, he just allows a long ball. Don’t get me wrong, it’s usually at a bad time, but it doesn’t happen over a number of pitches it happens in an instant.

  • Ichy balls

    Now get lowe up.

  • Big Member

    Solo homers dont win games folks. theres no i in team.

    • jjyank

      But there is a “me”!

    • Get Phelps Up

      I prefer your big, long essay posts.

  • Keith Evans

    Jeter homeruns are so cute — like when a 10 year-old throws a strike in bowling even though he has no hook in his throw and hit the headpin dead-on. His throw has no business going for a strike but, hey, it’s still going to happen now and then.

    • jjyank

      I mean he has 250 home runs…I think you’ve described Brett Gardner, not Jeter. He’s not a HR hitter, obviously, but that’s not accurate either.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      A bowling snob?

      • Havok9120

        Hey! Don’t insult us bowling snobs.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          Sorry, I just don’t take bowling to seriously, I look at it as an excuse to get drunk and launch a heavy object as hard as I can and try to knock shit over with it.

          • jjyank

            Hahaha. I enjoy bowling, but I always pretty much did it for that purpose.

            My fraternity used it as a rush event. So yeah, that :P

  • DERP

    We should get some guys on base before we go yard. That’s what I would do.

  • DERP

    Verlander is getting outpitched by Tommy Hunter. ugh

    • JLC776

      I want awful things to happen to Verlander right now…

    • Kramerica Industries

      I really don’t mind the O’s as much, even though they are certainly legit by this point.

      Would you rather the Rays/Tigers/Angels kind of teams get to the playoffs, or the little engine that could? I know I wouldn’t mind the Yankees not having to face Miggy/Prince, or Trout, or Price/Moore/Shields.

      • DERP

        I’d rather Boston make the playoffs over Baltimore.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          I’d prefer the Twins.

          • Get Phelps Up

            Astros in the world series FTW!

      • Ichy balls

        We want either Os or the As in the playoff both teams have huge holes.

      • Chilango

        It’s about time for Balt to fade isn’t it? Well, isn’t it?

      • JLC776

        I would certainly rather play Baltimore instead of David Price, but it’s the principle of Verlander dominating us and then Baltimore throwing the reverse lock at Detroit and… well, winning.

  • Ichy balls

    If hughes gives it up again here one of the guys should go take a dump in his locker.

  • DERP

    Mark Reynolds and Buck just got tossed.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    HUGHES IS TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!

  • Kramerica Industries

    Nice inning.

    Get the lead back this inning, and don’t surrender it.

  • The Real Greg

    Another beef I have with baseball.

    Phil Hughes committed the error that led to the 4 runs. Yet all 4 runs are unearned.

    If the pitcher is charged with the error, I think the runs should be earned.

    His ERA is going to look good after this start.

    • DERP

      ERA measures his pitching ability, not his fielding ability.

      • The Real Greg

        So does that mean Hughes pitched well tonight?

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          for the most part, Yes.
          (though not as well as a zero ERA would suggest)

        • Tom

          Take one for the team Grandy! That was 74mph.

          Of course 74mph still hurts.

        • Chilango

          FIP is a better measure of a pitcher’s performance.

          • jjyank

            Results matter the most, so ERA is a better indicator of past performance. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t FIP used to help determine future performance and luck? There are guys out there who out perform their peripheral stats (and thus, their FIP). I would take a guy with a 3.00 ERA and a 4.50 FIP all day every day if he could sustain it.

      • Big Member

        ERA meausres “earned run average”. hughes comited a error. the error is on hughes. he EARNED the error. thus the RUN(s) for the error should count towards his AVERAGE.

        • Mike N

          Send a letter to Bud Selig explaining your position on this important issue.

          • jjyank

            Yeah, and CC everyone at RAB on that email. I’m sure we’d all like to read it.

          • Get Phelps Up

            I’d much rather have him write another long essay post.

  • DERP

    Odd play in Baltimore. First base called a guy out on a grounder to third. Other umps overturned it. Reynolds threw his glove down, didn’t say a work, and got tossed.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Hughes has pitched really well except for that one pitch to the little elf-munchkin.

  • Tom

    Nice to see Hughes going inside… that pitch was only ~3-4″ off the plate, but like most hitters against Hughes they dive in because he doesn’t throw inside a lot. He seems to do it more against lefties.

    That really set up that change on the next pitch beautifully.

  • Hummingbird S.

    Andruw avoids getting on base with the best of them

  • Mike N

    McGHAEAYHEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Hummingbird S.

    why did granderson swing at 3-0 at ball 4?

    • DERP

      because fuck you that’s why

  • JLC776

    Wait, a hit that wasn’t a HR? How nice!

  • Hummingbird S.

    Pods played that extremely well, unfortunately.. nice hit by Grandy!

  • Mike N

    Podesdnik has a fucking arm!

  • Kramerica Industries

    Well, don’t fuck this up.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Fucking social requirements…goodnight everybody. I hope this run comes across.

    • jjyank

      Have fun bro.

    • Mike N

      Peace bro!

  • Tom

    Good decision by Grandy… looks like he would have been nailed at 2nd.

    • Chilango

      big time

  • Arya

    This is our chance. Plate that run, bring the rain and call it a night.

  • Chilango

    We’re into their pen let’s rock

  • Mike N

    BRING IN THIS FUCKING RUN!

  • Tom

    Wow…. close play at 1st in Det/Bal.

    Umps ruled out initially, Leyland argued and they changed it to safe!

    I guess Leyland was persuasive? (Schowalter and Reyonolds obviously were mad and both got toosed)

  • Mike N

    This Mortesnseon pitcher dude is the size of a twelve year old.

  • Ichy balls

    Someone give that new boston pitcher a sandwich

  • Kramerica Industries

    Oof, swung at ball 4 Russell.

  • Ichy balls

    Serious russel? Holy

  • Hummingbird S.

    the pitcher cannot throw a slider for a strike so obviously Martin swings at a pitch out of the zone

  • DERP

    Brutal

  • Hummingbird S.

    awful AB

  • Kramerica Industries

    Dammit to hell Russell.

    That was brutal.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Well, that was awful Russ.

  • The Real Greg

    That last one is nasty. The 3-1 swing was the problem there

  • Ichy balls

    Gary sanchez please mature fast.

  • Hummingbird S.

    PH Chavez!!!

    • The Real Greg

      And play who at short?

  • Chilango

    what an TERRIBLE AB.

  • Matt

    For a catcher, Martin looked like he had no clue how they are attacking him up there.

    4 straight sliders to start the at bat, even in counts like 2-0 and 2-1. Yet, for some reason, he thinks he is getting a fastball on 3-1 and 3-2. Just stunningly terrible.

    • jjyank

      Yeah, you’re not wrong exactly…but by that logic, there would be many more catchers who were better hitters. And most of them are pretty bad.

      • Matt

        You’re right that you still have to hit it, but Martin is actually a pretty good hitter for a catcher. The bad hitting catchers try to make up for it by guessing along with the pitcher, but Martin just completely lost track of the progression of the AB there.

  • DERP

    Nice piece of hitting

  • Kramerica Industries

    Nix picks up Russell.

    Well done sir. Got the lead – don’t let go.

  • Mike N

    NIX!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • jjyank

    NIX!

  • Chilango

    one slider too many

    • Mike N

      I like the tactic, though: “No way can this motherfucker be throwing *another* slider. OK. No way can this motherfucker be throwing *another* *another* slide.”

  • Cy Pettitte

    Nix saving the season again

  • Arya

    That Jayson Nix sure is clutch. Big hit.

  • The Real Greg

    Mortensen threw one slider too many

  • Hummingbird S.

    hey look at that! a hit! on the same pitch for the 10th time

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Nix.
    Professional Baseball Player.

    • jjyank

      No, no, no, its: Professional BASEBALL. PLAYER.

  • Ichy balls

    Really like nix kid is a player.

  • jjyank

    That was a great piece of hitting. Went down and got it, well done.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Baseball player.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    That was just a fantastic job by Nix.

    • Tom

      Did that turn the season around? ;-)

  • Thaaaaaaaayankeeswin

    2out RBI!

  • DERP

    Is Prince Fielder a GOD?

  • Tom

    Profession ballplayer!

    Seriously though – he saw 432 sliders in a row and unlike Martin, he adjusted to it and just put it in play.

  • JLC776

    That was the most improbably RBI ever.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    2-0 bunt?

    Seriously Ichiro?

    • Tom

      Ciriaco was back… I thought that was a really good move.

      If he gets it past the pitcher, it’s an easy run.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        I hate it with a 2-0 count.

  • Cy Pettitte

    Olney tweets:

    “The longer that the Orioles have stayed in this race, the more you can see the players believing they have a legit shot. Leading 3-1 against Detroit”

    then deletes it 30 seconds after and tweets:

    “The longer that the Orioles have stayed in this race, the more you can see the players believing they have a legit shot. Tied 3-all.”

    lol, nice jinx.

    • DERP

      HOF Buster

  • Chilango

    NOW does flying balls Phil start the 7th?

    • Ichy balls

      Meatball Phil.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    That AB by Ichiro almost made Martin’s look good.
    Absolutely ridiculous.

  • Leg-End

    Anything they can do about Russell? I mean I like the guy and all but hes pretty brutal to watch 8 times out of 10.

    • jjyank

      What can they do? Trade deadline is over, so it’s either him or Stewart or Cerveilli really.

      • Leg-End

        Not the worst problem in the world to have really, a low average catcher in the bottom of the order but you know we gotta moan about something right?

        • jjyank

          Heh, fair enough. Martin has definitely under performed, but it is what it is at this point. I do think he’s the best option we have.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Same situation as yesterday.

    Three outs away from DRob and Soriano. Lets get there with the lead intact, and finish this one off tonight.

  • Hummingbird S.

    what’s the logic behind that AB? Ichiro works the count 2-0, tries to bunt(!!) and then on 2-1 doesn’t swing at a hanging slider that any minor leaguer could crush..

    • The Real Greg

      It’s the way he operates. He wasn’t expecting a slider despite the fact that he has thrown nothing but.

  • The Real Greg

    That’s how Mortensen operates. He goes against baseball logic and throws sliders up there in every count.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Shutdown inning please.

  • Ichy balls

    How far away is Gary Sanchez?
    Can he hit over 200 and catch a game at this level next year.

    • jjyank

      No.

      • Hummingbird S.

        he probably could hit over .200.. catching would be a problem though

        • jjyank

          He’s in A ball. How can you know he could hit even .050 in the majors? Jesus, the kid is not going to be ready in 2013.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting

            fwliw, Sanchez’ 2012 ZIPS projection was for 218/279/417, .302 wOBA, -12.9 Fld

            Martin currently sports a .309 wOBA and -0.6 Fld, for comparison’s sake.

            • jjyank

              I think the “FWLIW” is appropriate, though. Taking a kid that young who’s never played above A ball and expecting him to be better than Martin just strikes me as absurd.

              And when he tanks, how many people will crucify the Yankees for rushing a top prospect?

              • Need Pitching & Hitting

                agree 100%

      • Ichy balls

        He is in high A ball right. So next year AA with a shot at AAA by years end.

  • Hummingbird S.

    comon Phil… you’re almost there. Let’s go.

  • Thaaaaaaaayankeeswin

    C’mon Phil, show us you can have a big boy shut down inning

  • Tom

    Last batter Phil… make him hit his way on.

  • Big Member

    Hughes is really goo with the change up. I obrserved that red sox are 0-4 against his change up today.

    • jjyank

      The spelling is starting to lose me. I’m sorry, but the Big Member persona would be way better with the use of spell check.

      • Get Phelps Up

        The misspellings just make it funnier.

        • jjyank

          I guess you could see it that way. But writing is my strong suit, so it just bothers me when it’s wrong :P

          • Mike N

            It’s part of the persona.

  • Chilango

    Joe: don’t let Phil pitch to Ellsbury!

  • DERP

    Finish him!

  • DERP

    Nice work by Hughes

  • Kramerica Industries

    At least Hughes rebounded from that awful third inning.

    Insurance, please.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Really, really nice job by Hughes tonight.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    OK. Nice job overall Phil.

  • Arya

    Nice rebound by Phil. Good thing we don’t have to go to middle relief tonight, just straight to Drob and Soriano.

  • Tom Q

    So…would everyone who wanted Phil sent to the bullpen (or Triple A, or hell) after the third inning like to walk back their comments just a bit?

    • Pat D

      Not entirely. His biggest problem is that he still creates too many unnecessary messes for himself. The difference between tonight and his last two starts is that he only had one meltdown inning.

      • jjyank

        If the error wasn’t by Hughes himself, would we still be singing that “meltdown” inning tune? He threw one bad pitch. The circumstances surrounding it sucked, but I would call that a meltdown at all. I think he’s actually pitched pretty well, he just got burned in the wrong spot.

        • Chilango

          He actually threw more than one bad pitch. He did have better control tonight but he still throws too many cookies. And he has trouble putting hitters away in tight situations. I’d hate to see him and his 4.78 FIP in the postseason.

          • jjyank

            I’m too lazy to look it up, but that 4.78 FIP is inflated by his awful April. He’s been perfectly serviceable since then as a #4 type starter, and would be even in the playoffs.

      • Tom Q

        Granted he let things spin too far, but…given that the key to the inning was a rain-aided thrown-away double play ball, I don’t think that rates with the meltdown innings he used to have.

        I mean, unless Mo in AZ ’01 constitutes a meltdown. (Sorry to raise such an ugly memory)

        • Heisenberg’s Hat

          TONY WOMACK.

  • Chilango

    Nice bounceback by Hughes.

  • DERP

    More runs please

  • Heisenberg’s Hat

    WAY TOO MANY HOMERS.

  • DERP

    Great player does great things.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Swish is hot.

  • jjyank

    I love you so much Swish.

  • Hummingbird S.

    Nick is ON FIRE!

  • sangreal

    Not clutch

  • Mike N

    FUCK THE RED SOCKS!!!!!!!!!! KILL THEM!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAH!

  • DERP

    Goodbye home run

    • Kramerica Industries

      Gary Thorne is an excellent voice.

      His call of Andino’s walk-off in Game 162 is forever on my phone.

  • Ichy balls

    Swisher needs to stay in the fucking 2 hole! Nice

  • Get Phelps Up

    Keep Swish in the 2 spot forever.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Swish with one of his specials – homers from both sides of the plate.

  • Tom

    Now THAT is how you swing at a 3-0 pitch.

    Yup, the Yankees should just let this guy walk next year….

  • Thaaaaaaaayankeeswin

    How’s the zone tonight, game cast is showing a lot of pitches in the zone being called balls

    • JLC776

      There’s a reason it’s a HR heavy game!

    • Tom

      I was just about to ask who the homeplate ump was, because I think he’s been very good behind the plate. Here’s the pitch f/x plot

      http://www.brooksbaseball.net/......php?img1=..%2FpfxVB%2Fcache%2Ffastmap.php-pitchSel%3Dall%26game%3Dgid_2012_08_17_bosmlb_nyamlb_1%26sp_type%3D2%26s_type%3D7.gif&img2=..%2FpfxVB%2Fcache%2Ffastmap.php-pitchSel%3Dall%26game%3Dgid_2012_08_17_bosmlb_nyamlb_1%26sp_type%3D3%26s_type%3D7.gif

      • Tom

        http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....evDate=817

        (image link isn’t working)

        I think gamecast sometimes get the height wrong a bit. (though the pitch f/x heights are also adjusted and can be problematic height-wise)

        • Thaaaaaaaayankeeswin

          Yeah hard to trust it, made it look like the zone was a matchbox

    • Havok9120

      I haven’t had any problem with it going by the eye test.

  • Arya

    Swisher’s been on fire ever since Joe moved him up to #2. Should have put him up there a month ago.

    • Mike N

      Fallacy.

  • Mike N

    I am not a baseball player, but can there be any better baseball player feeling batter-wise than hitting a homer from both sides of the plate in one game?

    • Big Member

      As a former baseball player on my high school’s junior varsity team i can proudly say that the best feeing a hitter can get is hitting a homer right below the pitchers belt.

      • Havok9120

        Gold.

        • Get Phelps Up

          Platinum.

  • Thaaaaaaaayankeeswin

    Swish so unclutch lately

    • JLC776

      I’m very guilty there… I was vilifying him for high leverage failures just over a week ago. I’m very happy to be eating my words right now!

    • Chilango

      No. He’s been clutch lately. In May he was unclutch: .207/.245
      and also in July not too great: .222/.367

  • Mike N

    So cool that Teix and Swish are 1-2 in multi-homer opposite-side games in MLB history!

    • jjyank

      Are they really? That’s so awesome.

      • Mike N

        Yep. According to the YES/My9 booth, Teix has 13 and Swish has 12.

  • Mike N

    This Socks pitcher has seriously long arms.

  • Ichy balls

    I know its 2 weeks away but who would be your sept call ups.
    Mine
    Cervelli,dickerson,warren,wade,nunez

  • Kramerica Industries

    Junichi Tazawa gave up the walk-off HR to ARod in the 15 inning game in 2009.

    He’s always welcome in New York.

  • Kramerica Industries

    1-2-3 this inning.

    Won’t be easy, but I imagine DRob can get it done.

  • Kramerica Industries

    WTF was that?

  • DERP

    Well fuck

  • Mike N

    Damn. I thought maybe that ricochet was gonna go right to first base for the out.

  • Chilango

    K time Robbie

  • Kramerica Industries

    Whew.

  • The Real Greg

    Wow

  • Mike N

    Nice catch, Grandy!

  • Ichy balls

    Ratboy misses his wall sorry shit head

  • jjyank

    Wow, I didn’t think that ball would travel that far off the bat, and I got worried for a second.

  • DERP

    Maybe if Pedroia wasn’t four feet tall he could have muscled that out

  • Chilango

    DRob got lucky. OMG

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Sorry runt, this aint Fenway.

  • Mike N

    I am loving this game right now.

  • The Real Greg

    Not in Fenway anymore, Pedey

  • Thaaaaaaaayankeeswin

    Booooom

  • ESPN

    Every ballpark needs a Green Monster in LF!

    • DERP

      Please out this alias.

  • Kramerica Industries

    It must be because I don’t live in New York.

    More pleasure, Red Sox or Mets? That’s not even a question to me.

    • jjyank

      More pleasure in beating the team? Red Sox, all day, every day. The Mets mean nothing to me.

      • The Real Greg

        As I said earlier, its the Red Sox because the Mets usually beat themselves.

        • Chilango

          The Red Sox because they’re the fucking Red Sox

    • DERP

      Poll fail, no Orioles option

    • Get Phelps Up

      There’s like, 6 NL teams that I’d get more pleasure in beating than the Mets.

    • Mike N

      It was a ludicrous question. The only people who voted Mets were Mets fans.

  • Tom

    Off topic but who would you rather see win with BALT/DET.

    Maybe I’m underestimating BALT, but I rather see DET lose and Chicago make the playoffs in the central (and potentially DET miss out all together)

    • Ichy balls

      We dont want detroit anywhere near the playoffs they own us in the post season.

    • Tom

      Then again, I can’t stand Schowalter, so screw the O’s…

    • Havok9120

      Divisional games aren’t as much a crapshoot in baseball as they are in football, but I still don’t want to risk having three ALE teams in the playoffs. It’d be cool for proving to everyone that we’re still the best division…but it makes winning a heck of a lot harder.

    • Kramerica Industries

      And it’s not because Chicago is some pushover. Konerko/Dunn is less talked about, but they’re not far off from Miggy and Fielder in terms of how ruthlessly dominant they can be at the plate.

      Sale and Peavy have been exceptional.

      Detroit just has more of the much-maligned “fear” factor. And I feel it as well – please miss the playoffs.

      • The Real Greg

        Adam Dunn is not dominant at the plate. Walk, K, or homer

    • Chilango

      Definitely do NOT want to see Detroit in the post season.

    • Get Phelps Up

      I think the White Sox are more well-rounded than the Tigers, especially in the rotation. I think the Yankees can beat them both, though.

  • The Real Greg

    Let’s christen Andrew bailey to the rivalry

  • tipsie

    Not watching game, admittedly, but following box score. Ready to bury Hughes for his inability to close out batters, 91 MPH heater, and awful implosion of a 3rd inning. Then he rebounds with a string of efficient innings and goes 7 strong? Shocker, really. Someone answer please: credit Hughes or a lackluster impatient Boston lineup?

    • jjyank

      The third inning was not an “awful implosion”. Single, error, homer. He’s looked good otherwise.

  • sangreal

    Swisher needs to stick with the high socks

  • Ichy balls

    Get MFIKY up.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Ross-Salty-Aviles

    Time to finish this.

  • Mike N

    Big Member, this next post is for you.

  • Mike N
  • William Thomas Barton III

    We need base hits, plain and simple, the batting averages on this team are deplorable (suck) ! The ranger game yesterday with a couple of base hits would cover up a lot of pitching mistakes. Nix , Chavez, ibanez are the only ones that know the value of a single. Earl weaver did not win many championships with the 3 run home run. I was completely disappointed with Paul O’Neill yesterday accepting playing the back-ups to rest people, when you know he would have had a fit getting rested.especially on a 10 game home stand. Rest em before the travel day or the first day on the road. Crush teams when you are hot!Grandson just struck out again. The play-off season will be short lived counting on the long ball. We don’t need the likes of josh Hamilton when we have the best record without him. We need timely hitting not solo home runs. K LONG SUCKS. Jeter has been great since last year after hanging with Gary Denbo. He should be promoted!!!!

  • William Thomas Barton III

    Junkie

  • Ichy balls

    Soriano reminds me of Adibisi from the show OZ.
    Just mean and nasty.

  • jjyank

    Kenny and Cone singing Hughes’ praises. I wonder what they would think if they read through this game thread.

    • Get Phelps Up

      I actually wouldn’t be all that surprised if they really did read RAB, especially Cone.

      • jjyank

        I could see Cone. That would be sweet.

    • Mike N

      That there are a lot of overemotional Yankee fans here.

    • Havok9120

      Probably the same think Mike does, most nights:

      “Thank God I don’t have to have to go down there.”

  • Tom

    Fielder just went deep, again.

    Det 5, Bal 3 bottom of the 8th

  • William Thomas Barton III

    The Red Sox are not a good litmus test, they suck. Fortunately they the worst manager in baseball, keeping ours from that distinction.

    • jjyank

      TMITN, is that you?

      • Get Phelps Up

        Somebody at OTM got bored.

        • jjyank

          You’re probably right. At least TMITN knew how to use the reply button.

    • Havok9120

      I like how he says “ours” as if we’re supposed to believe he’s not a troll.

  • Ichy balls

    Nasty slider tonight

  • jjyank

    Untuck.

  • Mike N

    YEAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • William Thomas Barton III

    Over emotional is the by-product of being a Yankee fan. Accepting mediocrity has become the norm. I for one do not.

    • jjyank

      Mediocrity is having the best record in the league? Alright then. Can I have some more mediocre Yankee teams?

  • Thaaaaaaaayankeeswin

    Un motherfucking tuck!

  • Get Phelps Up

    I can’t wait to see the gif of Valentine there.

    • Havok9120

      What’d he do?

      • Get Phelps Up

        He flipped his arm like he was shouting “FUCK!!” or something after McGehee reached into the dugout to catch the final out.

  • Arya

    lol Bobby V. What a trainwreck in Boston.

  • The Real Greg

    Tomorrow, the law firm of Phelps and Lowe

    • Mike N

      Is Phelps starting tomorrow?

      • The Real Greg

        Yep

  • William Thomas Barton III

    The only old person on the team is Girardi. We should give the managera day off. Players play, managers interfere…at least ours.

    • jjyank

      This is really F- trolling.

    • Get Phelps Up

      before everyone gets out of hand

      OK. I’m convinced you’re from OTM now.

      • Get Phelps Up

        Yikes. Didn’t mean to post this.

    • Get Phelps Up

      Players play, managers interfere…at least ours.

      OK. I’m convinced you’re from OTM now.

  • Mike N

    Swish better be the motherfucking POTG!

  • Kramerica Industries

    Hahah at my luck.

    I retooled my roster for yesterday, putting in as many active players for that day as I could, and in the process I lifted Fielder from my lineup.

    And then I fell asleep this afternoon before I could put him back in.

    The result? 2 HR that I don’t get credit for.

    • jjyank

      If it makes you feel better, I did the same thing with Madison Bumgarner a couple months ago and he pitched 8 shutout innings.

      • Get Phelps Up

        I sat Johan during his no hitter.

        • jjyank

          Oh. You win.

          • Kramerica Industries

            Indeed.

            And I did have the good fortune of a perfect game this week on my staff.

            • jjyank

              You have Felix I presume. Lucky you. Bumgarner is great, but my top drafted pitched was Haren. Hasn’t worked out for me.

  • DERP

    Cabrera and Fielder went 4-6 with 2 walks and 3 HRs. Rest of the lineup went 1-23 with 1 walk. Nice job Orioles.

  • Hall and Nokes

    Did Valverde just do the untuck?

    • jjyank

      He did and I puked in my mouth a little.

    • Big Member

      was his jersey stained? its common knwoldge that he orgasms everytime he gets a save

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Is it too late to drop in here?

    • Havok9120

      Hmmm. You’re a bit late.

      And you miseed Big Member’s live performance.

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    I’m going to say it blunt: Hughes did not pitch a great game. He pitched okay. All four runs should be on his record, especially since it was his error in the first place.

    That said, he went seven innings and those were the only runs he allowed, so all in all an okay start.

    • jjyank

      Yeah, it was his error, but that has nothing to do with pitching. So than really doesn’t factor in to pitching performance. If you want to talk about his overall level as a baseball player, then fine. But he pitched pretty damn well.

      • jjyank

        In addition: Like I said earlier, if that error was made by, say the third basemen, would you be singing the same tune? Errors suck, but they are completely different than pitching. So as far as I am concerned, Hughes made a bad pitch to the munchkin, and that’s pretty much it. He pitched well.

      • Rocky Road Redemption

        Well, what I said was all four runs should be on his record (which they should be, he EARNED all four runs due to his pitching and fielding), not that all four runs were directly related to his pitching.

        But at any rate: Yes, if the 3b made the error I absolutely would be singing the same tune. One run after that, okay, but he allowed FOUR. That’s a bad inning.

        He recovered and pitched fine the rest of the way, but this was not what I’d call a well-pitched game. He was okay. It was an improvement from last time, we won the game, so great. But I’m not gonna sit here like Hughes just did a dandy job.