Sunday Night Open Thread

Chavez unavailable due to sore back this weekend
CoJo homers in both ends of AAA doubleheader
Creepy mascot is creepy. (REUTERS/Fred Thornhill)

The weekend is unfortunately coming to a close, but that’s life. Just five more days ’til the next one. Here is your open thread for the night. The ESPN Sunday Night Game is the Braves at the Mets (Sheets vs. Niese), plus you’ve also got the last little bit of the Olympics. It’s been a fun two weeks. Talk about that stuff or anything else here. Go nuts.

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Chavez unavailable due to sore back this weekend
CoJo homers in both ends of AAA doubleheader
  • Kevin

    Jesus Montero homered off Weaver twice today…sure wish we had a bat like that in our lineup…

    • DM

      Jesus even played catcher today too (I guess it’s tough to get reps behind the plate when you have a great like Olivo blocking you). And a few more HRs/RBIs and he’ll match what Ibanez has done with 80 fewer ABs.

    • Bunt Gardner

      You mean like the following bats vs Weaver?

      Granderson 25AB, 5 HRs, .360/.407/.960
      Ibanez 30AB, 4 HRs, .467/.556/.933
      Chavez 14AB, 2 HRs, .429/.429/.929

      • Jersey Joe

        this

    • DERP

      You want another below average hitter in our lineup?

  • Joey from Jersey

    Let it go Louie.

  • Steve Kalris

    Here’s an open thread complaint:

    Zach McAllister
    Melky Cabrera
    Tyler Clippard
    Jesus Montero
    George Kontos
    Ian Kennedy
    Austin Jackson
    Mike Trout (Signing Teixeira cost them this draft pick)

    On and on and on. This organization handles the minor leagues poorly. Cashman = Worthless.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      So pick a new team. This is an easily correctable problem.

    • Heisenberg’s Hat

      It’s almost as if they’ve only won 4 championships with him as GM.

      • Alkaline

        Breaking Bad fan?

        • Heisenberg’s Hat

          I really love that show.

          • jjyank

            So do most people on this site :P

            • Heisenberg’s Hat

              Yeah I guess that doesn’t exactly make me unique!

              • JohnnyC

                You’d get extra credit for originality if your handle was Lester Young.

    • Robert

      Dont forget Jimmy Paredes and Wilton López.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        John Axford too. Or do we not count him anymore because he sucks? What about Arodys Vizcaino? Bit of a grey area there.

        • jjyank

          Carlos Pena!

          • Gonzo

            Fred McGriff!

            • JohnnyC

              Willie McGee. Jackie Jensen. Roger Repoz.

    • Alkaline

      Since Riddle is nowhere to be found.

      CRUCIO!

    • jjyank

      McAllister: Plenty of issues as a prospect and generally a replaceable one.

      Melky: Was trending downward for a couple of years in a row, and was one of the worst players in baseball when he was released by the Braves.

      Clippard: A reliever, and not a highly touted one at that. It happens.

      Montero: Can’t exactly write that book yet. Hasn’t had a good season so far, and we don’t know what Pineda will give.

      Kontos: Stewart hasn’t been good, but really? He was barely in the top 30 in the entire organization.

      Kennedy and Jackson: Lumping them together since it was the same trade – Granderson is a pretty good player, no? Hate on the strikeouts if you want, power hitting center fielders are pretty rare. He was an MVP candidate last year. So it’d not like they gave those two away.

      Trout: LOL this one is why I know you have no idea of what you speak. The Angels had two picks before the Yankees. Even without the Teixeira pick, they would have taken him anyway. And even if that was not the case, Cashman is supposed to tell the future and just “know” what player they are giving up with the pick they are forfeiting? Even if signing Tex was the reason the Angels got Trout (and it wasn’t), how the hell was anyone supposed to know what player would get selected with that pick and who that player would turn out to be?

      “Cashman = Worthless.”

      This post = worthless.

    • pat

      We would have lost it for CC and Burnett too.

  • Kevin

    The Tex pick would have gone to the Brewers instead. And the Angels STILL had a pick in front of the Yankees.
    I’m ticked about Montero,Jackson and others too but the Tex cost the Yankees Mike Trout myth needs to end.

  • garth asham

    Phil hughes is a very fustrating pitcher to watch

    • Heisenberg’s Hat

      That is true.

  • Steve Kalris

    Pick a new team? Typical homer response.

    Just keep tooting that Cashman train, robot boy.

    • jjyank

      Are you stuart’s brother? There is a reply button, ya know.

    • Kevin G.

      Robot boy? Don’t think I’ve ever heard that one before.

      But seriously please pick a new team. These guys seem to handle prospects well, maybe you should go there: http://www.overthemonster.com/

    • Robinson Tilapia

      He’s the homer that owns the site, jackass. Go start your own and see how well you do.

      You’re posting on a Yankee fan site, but people can’t be homers. Gotcha.

  • Steve Kalris

    jjyank, if you knew anything about the draft (which you don’t) then you’d realize that every single analyst covering it said the Yankees and Angels were the two teams targeting Trout.

    Follow more than just NY baseball, know nothing.

    • Bunt Gardner

      Keep talking. Eventually the hole you dig for yourself will be so deep no one will hear you.

      • Steve Kalris

        Translation: I’m Bunt Gardner and I know absolutely nothing about baseball, so I’ll post a random response and hope that my homer buddies back me up.

        • jjyank

          Hey look, you used the reply button! Progress?

        • Bunt Gardner

          Oh yeah, you nailed me. Ouch.

    • jjyank

      If YOU knew anything about the draft (which you don’t), you’d realize that the Angels has TWO (like more than one) picks before the Yankees. And they were gonna pick Trout with one of them regardless.

      “Follow more than just NY baseball, know nothing.”

      Do me a favor, and follow your own advice. Also, try the reply button. Seriously.

      • Steve Kalris

        Wrong again.

        LOL

        You are absolutely clueless about the draft.

        • jjyank

          No…I’m not wrong. They had two picks.

          • Steve Kalris

            Goodness. This is like explaining baseball to a child.

            They were NOT going to pass on Zach Lee. The Angels were targeting him no matter what, and he was going to be their first pick (just like it panned out).

            Try reading other sites and learning about the game before you pretend to have any idea of what you’re talking about.

            • jjyank

              Actually, from what I had read, it was Trout they were not passing on. This is like arguing with a child.

              Bethesda?

            • Kevin G.

              So when Cashman was on the verge of signing Teixeira you wanted him to be like “Oh wait this means our pick will be going to the Angels and they’ll take Mike Trout six months from now using our pick.”

              I didn’t know Cashman had a crystal ball.

            • Bunt Gardner

              Except they did pass on Lee.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

              They were NOT going to pass on Zach Lee. The Angels were targeting him no matter what, and he was going to be their first pick (just like it panned out).

              Lee and Trout weren’t even in the same draft. I wasn’t even 100% sure of that and it literally took me less than five seconds to look it up.

              You need to stop telling people to “Try reading other sites and learning about the game before you pretend to have any idea of what you’re talking about” because you’re approaching most clueless commenter in RAB history status.

              • Rocky Road Redemption

                No, he’s not. Remember bo.

                NEVER FORGET

                • jjyank

                  In fairness, Mike did say “approaching”.

                  • Rocky Road Redemption

                    True, true.

        • Heisenberg’s Hat

          I’m just wondering who you think the Yanks would have used as a first baseman these past 3 years if they hadn’t signed Tex?

          • TCMiller30

            Jorge Vasquez! Damn you Cashman!!!!!!!

    • Alkaline

      Imperio!

      • Rocky Road Redemption

        Watching Harry Potter weekend too, then?

  • Steve Kalris

    This site has been infiltrated with Cashman ball washers and know nothing clowns that have no idea that baseball exists outside of New York.

    What a sad, pathetic disgrace.

    • jjyank

      Abigail?

    • Buhner’s barber

      Why do go on the internet to insult people, make poor arguments, and generally act like a pompous jackass? What could your life possibly be like to make that seem like a good use of time?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Cashman likes it when i use a toothbrush, held between my teeth, counterclockwise with his nuts. Thank you.

      Still a jackass.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Every baseball team blog raves their GM and considers him to be the best. It is what it is.

      • Brian S.

        I actually think Cashman is one of the best in the league, if not THE best. Fringe top 5 IMO. Even his mistakes look pretty good at the time (Vazquez trade, Nick Johnson signing).

        • Brian S.

          I meant BUT not the best. I’d take AA, Friedman, Daniels over him off the top of my head.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Has there been a better big market GM?

          • Brian S.

            Large market? Not a chance. Unless you count Daniels/Texas since they are around 130 mil nowadays.

    • Alkaline

      Crucio!

  • Kevin

    The Angels still had a pick in front of the Yankees no matter what due to K-Rod signing with the Mets. They were going to get him regardless of what happened with Tex,end of story.

  • Kevin G.

    Now would be a bad time for Phil Hughes to start sucking. Hopefully he turns it back around and Nova build off of his past start.

    • Gonzo

      It doesn’t matter. The Yankees would have had to not sign AJ, Tex, CC and no other Type A to have kept that pick. He’s just trolling.

      • Gonzo

        Oops, that was meant for the Kevin above.

  • DERP

    This is shaping up to be a thread that will include plenty of intelligent discussion.

  • Heisenberg’s Hat

    Isn’t there some way we can blame Cashman for trading away Fred McGriff?

    • jjyank

      I blame Cashman for not drafting Willie Maze. What a failure.

      • Bunt Gardner

        It’s Cashman’s fault the outfield sprinkler messed up Mantle’s knee his rookie year.

    • Gonzo

      I heard Cashman was behind the Lindbergh kidnapping!

      • Robinson Tilapia

        If it wasn’t for Cashman, Jack Chesbro would still be winning 40 games a season for the Highland…..Yanks today.

    • Bo Knows

      blame him for

      not drafting Pujols
      not drafting Votto
      not drafting Strasburg when he was still a fat High School pitcher

      Also let’s blame him for not drafting the potential 2014 #1 pitcher Carlos Rodon while he was in High School (just to get a preemptive jab in all this hindsight crap)

  • DM

    Another dinger for Corban Joseph; Whitley got the start in the nightcap.

  • dc1874

    …and Cashman traded Buhner also..!!!

  • The Real Greg

    I should have known that Hughes would struggle today. What do minor leaguers hit well and look for? Fastballs. What does Phil Hughes throw almost exclusively? Fastballs.

    • Mike N

      If you want to make yourself feel even worse, go look at his minor league nasty curve Youtube.

  • Brian S.

    All other AL East teams won today :(

    • Robinson Tilapia

      The ultimate “shit happens.” You can go on a four-game winning streak, but they all win. Then you lose one, but they don’t.

  • Brian S.

    I just got a new Black and Decker coffee maker for 18 bucks. I don’t even care how racist the brand name is.

    • Heisenberg’s Hat

      This black man absolves you.

      Who knew Black and Decker made coffeemakers?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      There’s no joke I could make here that would end well.

  • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Drew

    The whole bashing Cashman for not drafting Trout guy is entertaining to read, but who is the babe in the picture?

    • Heisenberg’s Hat

      Looks like Jennie Finch.

      • Brian S.

        I’d Jennie her Finch.

    • DERP

      Really? Carrie Underwood

      • RocketMan86

        Yeah, how come Canada is using an American Country Artist to throw out the 1st Pitch. Call Pam Anderson or something….

    • RocketMan86

      it’s Carrie Underwood, Drew.

  • Mike N

    AIAIAIEIEIEIEIEIEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

    MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!

    That was me “go[ing] nuts”, as instructed by site management.

  • Nathan

    Carrie gives me underwood.

  • Brian S.

    What happens if LA, Oakland, Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago, and Tampa Bay all finish with the same record?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I’m sure MLB has a well-thought-out and in no way half-assed plan for this exact situation.

      • CUYanks

        I nominate the above for the comment hall of fame.

        • http://cinemademocratica.com Dave in Gainesville

          The irony is that the whole reason to reach for the division and not settle for the wildcard — so that you don’t burn up your ace in a play-in game — could be negated if everyone has to play each other five friggin’ times.

        • Rocky Road Redemption

          I would like to second that nomination.

          • Rocky Road Redemption

            Oh, and you have no idea how much I now want this to happen.

    • CUYanks

      Round Robin tournament to crown the Mario Kart champion.

  • Heisenberg’s Hat

    I can’t tell Carrie Underwood from Jennie Finch. Oh well.
    I thought it was Jennie because she was signing a baseball.

  • DERP

    I am pretty sure that there is not a more overrated movie than Step Brothers.

  • Mick taylor

    Why does andruw jones get a free pass ? He is the least clutch hitter on this team for 2 years. He has never won a game with a hit .(thinkdetroit playoffs, today’s game, July angels game, and many more). The yanks should have better options than this 220 hitter.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I’m sure that will be under consideration in 2013. For now, I can’t exactly see who in the organization would do a better job or would be available to the team through a waiver deal.

    • JohnnyC

      His hitting is disappointing but it’s his slow-motion outfield play that irks me. It doesn’t matter how strong his arm still is since it takes an hourglass to time his pursuit of batted ball.

  • http://cinemademocratica.com Dave in Gainesville

    Have Frankie Cervelli or Eduardo Nunez made any progress (hitting in the first case, fielding in the second) while down in AAA, and — if not — then aren’t we wasting them there? It seems to me that at this point they would each either benefit from access to the coaches on the big club, or else they should / should have been traded. Obviously trickier after the non-waiver deadline, but can we at least consider them mortal locks for September call-up? Are they both even healthy and playing right now? (I freely concede that I should’ve known the answer to that last one before posting, so if one or both are hurt I apologize to the room.)

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Both are healthy. I’m sure we’ll see them both in September. Nunez’s season was pretty much lost due to injury. Cervelli didn’t do much in AAA for most of the season to push the Chris Stewart issue.

      • Heisenberg’s Hat

        I heard Cervelli’s defense has been pretty bad in AAA.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I think it’s time for both of us to change the channel.

        • http://cinemademocratica.com Dave in Gainesville

          I heard the same thing — and Nunez’ too — and I thought they were both good-to-dynamite for the big club last year. Is it possible that they’re languishing down in AAA and won’t get better until they get back with the team? I know that’s dangerous thinking and I wouldn’t advocate it for, oh, I dunno — IVAN NOVA — but these two players seem to me to be shockingly under-performing right now, relative to what they showed me in ’11.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            The other side of that coin would be that a scorned Cervelli would hit his way back onto the big team and take his job back from Stewart, but he just didn’t.

            I get the Nunez demotion. For the position he was being asked to play, the defense had to be demonstratively better. He then got injured. Just a lost season. I still think he’s better off on one of those teams who believe him to be starting caliber.

  • jjyank

    I’m sorry that Steve Kalris stopped commenting. I feel like he was stuart a’s brother, only with better grammar skills. Also “Kalris” sounds like the beginning of “Lando Calrissian”, and that’s always fun.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I’d rather watch a Spice Girls reunion. Ah, fuck.

      • jjyank

        You might want to take that one back.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I wager Ginger Spice still looks better naked than Steve Kalris.

          • jjyank

            Joba The Hutt probably looks better naked than Steve Kalris.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              F, Marry, Kill: Steve Karlis, Duh Innings, and Stuart.

              • jjyank

                Hmm F stuart, Kill Duh Innings, Marry Steve.

                You?

  • Robert

    Montero is hitting .270 with 12 home runs What would that translate in Yankee stadium with him in our line up.

    I would say .300 and 20 HRS by now!

    • Robinson Tilapia

      It would translate to the Seattle Mariners wondering what the hell their starting catcher was doing in the Yankee lineup.

      • http://cinemademocratica.com Dave in Gainesville

        Bravo! Pineda’s torn labrum makes Montero’s performance for the Mariners a much easier target for GM-bashing. (Though I will say that I wish Cash had been more sensitive to the Verducci effect, which — whatever else one says about it — has been right in recent years about Hughes, Chamberlain, Nova and Pineda, and that’s just on our team.) At all events, when Pineda is back next year the Montero issue will die the quiet death it deserves. He was never everyday-catcher material and the last thing the Yankees need is a traffic-jam at DH.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I wasn’t a fan of the trade. It happened. You can’t go back. This rehashing of the same old shit is so old. He’s a Mariner. Get over it or go root for them. The salmon’s great.

          • jjyank

            Speaking of which, I saw a Golden Corral commercial yesterday that made me think of you.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              That is the most fucking bizarre thing anyone’s ever said to me.

              • jjyank

                The commercial mentioned tilapia specifically. You said “salmon”, and I thought “fish”, and then I thought “Golden Corral’s tilapia”.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  Now this is kinda strange…..we were at Bahama Breeze today (by Willowbrook Mall for you Jersey folk) and my son actually HAD tilapia for the first time AND I named the fish “Robinson.”

                  I don’t think I’ve ever been at a Golden Corral. I have been to a Bob Evans…..in Kentucky.

                  • jjyank

                    Oh Willowbrook Mall…sore subject, my ex was from about 5 minutes from there.

                    I’ve never been to a Golden Corral either, but their commercial of “try our tilapia” makes me chuckle. Did your son like it?

  • Get Phelps Up

    Wow, this was in interesting open thread to come home to. Steve Kalris is like Duh Innings 2.0

  • pistol pete

    Texas, LA, and Detroit got better at the deadline and Tampa got Longoria back for the stretch run. We’re left with Phelps/Freddy/Hughes/and Nova starting and trying to hang on to a five game lead with 50 to go. Do you think those 4 scare anyone and if the yanks do limp into the playoffs do think we scare anyone, NOT. These are not the Yanks that George owned. We continue to lose out at the deadline and are left praying CC is ok and Andy returns. Looks like a pipe dream right now.