Aug
23

Thursday Night Open Thread

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I was cleaning up my old bookmarks earlier today and I ran across that video, color footage of the 1939 World Series between the Yankees and Reds at Yankee Stadium. The description is in the video, but it includes the conclusion of Game One and part of Game Two, in which Monte Pearson no-hit Cincinnati for the first 7+ innings. Make sure you check it out, it’s really neat.

Once you’ve done that, use this as your open thread for the night. The baseball schedule is light, but MLB Network will air the Angels at the Red Sox (Wilson vs. Morales) and the Athletics at the Rays (Ross vs. Cobb). Who you see depends on where you live. Talk about those games or anything else here. Have at it.

Categories : Open Thread
  • CP

    Despite the lack of attention they receive, the 1939 Yankees are probably the best team in baseball history.

    • TomH

      106-45 record
      Scored 967 runs, Allowed 556 runs

      5 guys in the starting lineup hit over .300, with Dimag at .381.
      5 with an obp of .400+.
      4 of them slugging at .400+, and Dimag at .671.

      Without mercy, took no prisoners.

      • TomH

        Make that 4 of them slugging at .500+

      • Mick taylor

        Dimaggio’s 1937 season when he hit 46 hrs and 167 rbis is perhaps the greatest by any player when you factor in the ballpark he was playing in. Were he playing in an average size park he would have hit 60 hrs with 200 rbis. . Conversely, Hank Aaron would have hit 500 not 755 hrs had he been a yank and played in the old stadium with 402 lf ,457 lc, 461f,and 405rc, as opposed to the bandboxes in Atlanta and Milwaukee.

    • Peter

      Really not the 1927 team? With Babe, Gehrig, Meusel, Earle Combs, Lazzeri, Pennock and Hoyt. That HOFamers and a very good Meusel. Two guys that slugged over .700, 4 over .500 and 6 over .400.

      • Peter

        I meant to say That’s 6 HOF’s

      • Rocky Road Redemption

        Yeah, IMO the top 3 are:

        1) 1927 Yanks
        2) 1939 Yanks and
        3) 1998 Yanks

        The 01′ Mariners get an honorable mention-the only reason they’re not number 2 is that elusive championship.

        • Heisenberg’s Hat

          And PED’s.

  • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW)

    On MLBN tonight, Mitch Williams said Seattle is better without Ichiro because the entire team had to walk on eggshells around him. He said everyone is glad he left. I don’t think Mitch spoke to anyone to gather this info. I think he just came up with this out of his ass.

    • Robinson Tilapia aka Melky’s Webmaster

      That sounds like Grade-A bullshit.

    • Pat D

      I’ve heard that intimated by other people as well, though I don’t remember by whom.

      I definitely agree with you that Mitch said it just to say it. Maybe his “sources” are the vague memories to which I just referred. He’s one of the many reasons I can’t watch that show.

      • Rocky Road Redemption

        Perhaps he uses Big Member’s sources.

        • Robinson Tilapia aka Melky’s Webmaster

          Big Member’s sources claimed he obviously needed a friend like Hiroki around.

        • jjyank

          That just can’t be true. If it were, Mitch’s sources would be infallible. And they most definitely are not.

  • Kevin

    The Rays are creeping up behind and of course MLB tonight gushed about the Rays pitching.
    It is good,very very good but it’s also managed to remain injury free..something the Yanks haven’t had luck with.

    • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW)

      The Yankees are victims.

      • radnom

        How DARE mlb tonight complement a good team playing well right now.

        • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW)

          Exactly!

    • JLC 776

      The Rays, as a whole, haven’t exactly been unscathed this year. But they are definitely benefiting from having most of their important parts all back together in time for a rather weak period of their schedule.

      • Robinson Tilapia aka Melky’s Webmaster

        I hear that Longoria guy’s kinda a big deal.

        • Pat D

          He has many leather bound books and his apartment smells of rich mahogany.

        • Kramerica Industries

          But there’s some bullshit going on there, since the Rays have played like a 100 win team with him in the lineup, and an 80 win team without him.

          No player, Longo included, is a fucking 20 WAR guy.

          • Deep Thoughts

            Luke Scott just came back too.

            Longo – ~3 WAR
            Luke Scott ~17 WAR

            plus or minus

            • MannyGeee

              Longo – ~3 WAR
              Luke Scott ~7 WAR
              Luke Scott’s Facial Hair ~ 10 WAR

    • Laz

      Price, Hellickson, Moore, Shields. Is a pretty damn good front 4. Their hitting isn’t nearly as good as the yankees, but no doubt their pitching is much better.

      Price’s era is what? 2.40, compared to hiroki’s which is right around 3.00

    • Peter

      Their pitching makes up for a weak lineup. But seriously this has to be the worst year for injuries on pitchers in the Yankees system. Sabathia, Pettitte, Nova, Pineda, Banuelos, Campos, Bentances, Robertson, oh and this guy named Rivera all on the DL. That would be a great pitching staff with depth.

  • Frank

    How cool would it be walking the field after the game was over.

    check out the field dimensions back then. Insane.

    http://www.andrewclem.com/Base.....um1937.gif

  • jjyank

    If anyone wants some more Red Sox hate, one of my friends posted this on Facebook:

    http://boston.barstoolsports.c.....ame-night/

    • dc1874

      …and how many players showed up at the beloved Bob Sheppards funeral…just sayin..

      • jjyank

        Be quiet and hate the Red Sox.

      • Steve

        Yeah, at least the Sox didn’t make up some kind of bullshit excuse about why they weren’t there, like a bus breaking down on the way

      • jjyank

        http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news.....14524.html

        So, it’s not the same, really. If most of the team was out of town to being with, how can you make that comparison? The point of the article I posted initially wasn’t just that they didn’t go, it was that they went to party at Beckett’s thing the SAME night. Meaning, the players were around, they just didn’t want to go.

        http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=5386264

        Apparently some of the players weren’t even aware when the funeral was.

        Now that I’ve looked into it a bit, this is rather apples to oranges. If Yogi Berra had died, and the players had dicked around in the NY area instead of attending the funeral, then fine, bash away. But in this circumstance, the all star break timing (coupled with some of the players allegedly not even being made aware of the time) makes this a very different thing.

        So I say again. Be quiet, hate the Red Sox.

      • MannyGeee

        Johnny Pesky’s funreal = Yogi Berras funeral (when the day comes)…

        Bob Sheppards funeral – more like Jery Remy’s funeral (when the day comes… please)

        not the same. not at all the same.

    • Erica

      This makes me sad. Is it SO hard to pay respects? I’m surprised little Elfin’ Pedroia didn’t bunny-hop his way to the services.

  • Chris

    That video makes me hate the new stadium even more. I wish we had something like that today. What a gem.

    • Robinson Tilapia aka Melky’s Webmaster

      Ibanez would need a map.

      I’ll keep the less esoteric new style stadium. Thanks.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Only two words for tonight, and an extra two words for Friday and Saturday:

    Go A’s.

    Hoping they can pull a series victory this weekend and put the coolers on the Rays. And then let the Rangers do more of that next week.

  • Bo Knows

    Slade and Austin both are looking like they need to be in TRenton to start the season. Neither one seem to be having much trouble in Tampa

  • Kevin

    C.J. Wilson showing why the Rangers let him go and why the Yanks didn’t touch him.

    • Pat D

      Their entire rotation has been utterly terrible for about 2 weeks.

  • Paul VuvuZuvella

    Ooh, what a depressing quick RAB check with the Nova and Betances news. I’m going back to my regularly scheduled activities.

    • Knoxvillain

      I couldn’t care less about Betances or anything to do with him. But I do hope Nova has been hurt all year and that’s why he’s sucked.

      • MannyGeee

        I kinda hope this for both. Imagine if Dellin really is what we thought he was, and it was just an injury that had him looking like Wild Thing Rick Vaughn?

        How exciting will Scranton be next season?

  • Josh

    Hey quick question y’all. If someone checks his swing and gets HBP does that count? Cuz it happened to me in 2k12 and it doesn’t seem very fair, his hands are over the plate.

    • G

      A swing negates a hit by pitch, and that’s about all that can do so. If you don’t swing, yes it’s an HBP. May have been a bad call in the game, those are programmed to happen.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Hold on a sec – CJ Wilson got annihilated, and then the Angels came back and now have the lead?

    Some weird shit in these games CJ Wilson pitches, I tell ya…

    • Tom

      Hour and a half in and the Bos/ANA game is in the top of the 6th 3rd inning.

      Valentine apparently going Torre on the pen, Tazawa on in the 3rd inning after throwing 2.2 innings… yesterday.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Fuck off A’s.

    • CUYanks

      It’s all Bartolo Colon’s fault for not making his start.

  • Kevin

    Bleh,Oakland losing 2-0…will the Rays just LOSE a couple of games already?

  • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

    Haha.

    Valentine on the starters this weekend: “Who cares who’s pitching? Why is this such a big thing?”
    https://twitter.com/PeteAbe/status/238740762320326656

  • Kramerica Industries

    Ya gotta love how every fuckin’ pitcher for the Rays is basically an ace right now.

    It’s insane.

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    This is just awesome. I love Joe:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/.....1;mlb.html

    • Rocky Road Redemption

      …As poorly written as the article was. Ew. Really, Yahoo?

      • jjyank

        Haha it was bad. But I got a great kick out of those Mike Ditka clips, and I applaud Girardi for putting that guy in his place.

        • captain kiwi

          that guy must’ve been scared to see joe coming at him. girardi is a swole dude

          • jjyank

            Totally. If there was an MMA tournament between all MLB managers, I put my life savings on Girardi.

            • captain kiwi

              most def.

              also, i think an mlb manager mma tourney would be hilarious. could you imagine ron washington facing ozzie? ahaha

              • Robinson Tilapia aka Melky’s Webmaster

                Good thing Jack McKeon retired.

            • MannyGeee

              my money ison Ozzie… I think Ozzie might cut a bitch.

          • Erica

            If you see Girardi running toward you… you about-face and you RUN. RUN FAST. Run FAR.

  • The Real Greg

    So basically umps can throw pitchers out without issuing warnings. This is why I am wary of the Yankees retaliating.

    • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

      Who was ejected?

      • The Real Greg

        Scott Diamond threw behind Josh Hamilton after Joe Mauer was hit the previous half inning.

        Apparently there were no warnings issued.

        Gardy got ejected too, arguing.

        • The Media

          Hello, Greg. Don’t you want to know what we’re thinking tonight?

          • The Real Greg

            That we should go burn up Skip Bayless’s house?

    • Tom

      He was tossed because he threw behind Hamilton’s head.

      You are asssuming he was tossed simply because of the mere act of retaliation, but when the pitch goes at a players head and it is intentional, they get ejected regardless of warning.

      If he gets hit in the thigh or butt, who know if he’s tossed, and I tend to think he doesn’t.

      • The Real Greg

        I didn’t know it was behind the head. Okay.

  • Erica

    Hey guys – quick question. I snagged an interview for a new job and the interviewer has requested a list of my salary history. How far back in time do I need to go? I’ve been working a variety of jobs since 2002 (when I was 15). I can’t remember everything I was paid (certainly not when I was a camp counselor between 2002-2004ish).

    Help, please!

    • pat

      I would say jobs pertaining to the field you’re in now including internships and whatnot. I don’t think they care what you were making at Camp Anawanna, hah.

      • Erica

        Yeah, I mean I had a string of dinky jobs during the summer when I was home from school. I feel silly including those because they were held for such a short time and had such low pay.

        (Camp Anawanna! NICE REFERENCE.)

        • jjyank

          Yeah, list the jobs that are relevant. They don’t give a crap what your part time job in high school paid you. I would say relevant internships and anything post-grad.

          • Robinson Tilapia aka Melky’s Webmaster

            Yup.

            Relevant jobs. At some point, we all can start leaving off those dinky summer jobs. Always feels good.

            • Erica

              To the dumpster the dinky stuff goes!

          • Erica

            Yeah. I’m looking to leave my current glam city job. It’s not working out the way I thought it would. I’m getting back into retail as a temporary solution (saves money/allows me to take time to find another job in the city).

            So I mean, I’ve worked a ton of retail in my life… it’s just… do I include my position at The Gap from 2006-2007? Who even remembers what I got paid there? (THAT place was interesting…)

            • jjyank

              I guess it depends on the retail position.

              I’ll give you my own example. I got back into banking as my own temporary solution. I’ve done several cash handling jobs that would be similar, but I left out being a waiter on my resume because it was just too long ago. But I got the job. The job was just a teller, but still. They though enough of the relevant experience that I was recently put in sole charge of the ATM. Roughly 100 grand is in my direct supervision. That’s cool, temporary job or not.

              My point is that you just need to provide/highlight the positions that best show your qualifications. Retail is a broad field, so pick the ones that most closely resemble what you’re going for. If you feel that list is too short, you can broaden it to include things like working at Gap. But if you’re looking to streamline your list, tighten it up to what best describes the job you’re going for. A good piece of advice I have found is to analyze the word usage in the original job posting. See what buzz words they keep repeating, and you’ll get a better idea of what exactly they are looking for.

              • Erica

                Totally makes sense. Fine tune it to best appeal to the current job.

                YES! For some reason I always forget to check back on those buzz words. Even though I already have the interview, I guess it’s always good to just keep everything streamlined in the salary history I provide.

                Thank you!! That’s extremely helpful.

                • jjyank

                  You’re very welcome :D

                  It helps just as much in an interview. Using the words that they used in the original ad are likely what they want to hear. Obviously you don’t want it to sound forced, but if you can work a couple of the “buzz” words that are used in the original posting into the interview, that would help a lot.

                  • Erica

                    Totally. Too bad it just can’t take only a charming smile to snag the job.

                    • jjyank

                      A charming smile is totally a plus though, don’t write it off!

                  • Robinson Tilapia aka Melky’s Webmaster

                    Yup. Do your homework on the company and the position. Don’t make it feel like this is one of 80 places you sent your resume to, etc.

                    Smiles count. You could wind up with someone like me interviewing you :)

                    • Erica

                      WHAT UP? Hire me.

              • captain kiwi

                god. i’ve been applying to jobs the wrong way for my entire adult life.

                • Erica

                  What, you mean jumping up and down in front of random offices and stores, shouting “HIRE ME!!!!1one” hasn’t worked for you, either?!

                  • captain kiwi

                    it was all the crotch-pointing that did me in.

                • Robinson Tilapia aka Melky’s Webmaster

                  Pointing at your crotch does not count as a reference.

                  • captain kiwi

                    nor as a pickup line apparently :(

            • captain kiwi

              i only go back as far as the 3 or 4 most recent and relevant jobs i had. most applications only have room for 3 regardless, and it seems a bit excessive to staple another page and/or write on the back of an empty page just to list your entire work history.

              • Erica

                Good point. I think I’m just at the point right now where I need to find a way out of my current job that I’m just getting twitchy and anal about securing the next job.

                • captain kiwi

                  blech. i just went through that recently and it is no fun. good luck to ya

                  • Erica

                    Thank you! I certainly hope it all worked out for the best on your end, as well.

                    • captain kiwi

                      mahalo! it’s been a month, so too soon to tell. we’ll see how things stand come christmas time

        • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW)

          “Get it right or pay the price!” Camp Anawanna.

          • Erica

            We should all shout that at our employers!

      • captain kiwi

        holy crap, when was the last time someone referenced “salute your shorts”? now i gotta go find reruns…

    • Deep Thoughts

      It’s not clear to me whether the interviewer asking for your salary history is asking for the interim pay-mah-bills retail job, or for your next big “job” job.

      In either case, what they are asking is, “How little can we offer you without having you leave a dust cloud like the Roadrunner as you tell us to piss off and leave?”

      The bottom line is, your salary history is totally irrelevant. Maybe you were a high-school student making $1.25/hr plus tips. Maybe you were a dot-com tech worker making $100K who got laid off. It doesn’t matter. Salaries aren’t attached to people, but to jobs. If you can do the job, and can prove it with experience, references, interview, etc., then you’re entitled to the salary range associated with that job.

      The principle applies to all jobs, but say it’s the retail gig. You probably have an idea of what the going rate is for someone in that role, with that experience. You could just say, “My experience working at the retailers on my resume tells me that the market rate in this city for this job role at an upscale boutique like yours is between X and Y. That’s how much I’ve made in the past, and I’d expect the compensation for this job to fall within that range as well.” That should begin and end discussion.

      Good luck!

      • Erica

        You. Are. Awesome. (I hope you’re able to see this response! This was so wonderfully thought-out and well-written… certainly living up to your handle up there, haha.)

        This is for the in-between retail job. It’s base plus commission, so that’s a new direction I’m taking in terms of salary in retail.

        Either way, I certainly like the approach of stating what the expectations are for compensation. That’s really badass. Wise words! THank you!

  • captain kiwi

    anyone read cracked.com? the latest article about “tdkr” is one of the funniest things i’ve read in a while – avoid if you haven’t seen the film, however.

    • ArchStanton

      I’ll go check it out. I liked the movie, a lot, but there were some holes for sure.

      • captain kiwi

        holes, ret-cons, bale’s insistence on using that stupid “bat-voice” – the worst of the trilogy, but still a good movie.

        • Heisenberg’s Hat

          The cowl is supposed to alter his voice.

  • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW)

    Trout is really good.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    The Sox/Angels game has been rather interesting.

    • forensic

      Neither team seems to enjoy any prosperity in the form of a lead. Not sure I understand how Valentine allowed Aceves to go back out in the 10th after being smacked around a bit in the 9th. Sure the fans will just add that to the list of dumbass things he’s done this year.

      • CUYanks

        He is a horrendous bullpen manager. He has no clue.

        • forensic

          He’s horrendous at a lot of managing aspects. For example, why is his .135 hitting back-up catcher hitting 6th in the lineup? And this after batting him 5th just a few days ago.

    • captain kiwi

      has anyone ventured to otm? i’m sure that game thread is a mess.

      • The Real Greg

        I have. Mentions of Bill Murray and shark suits.

      • pat

        It’s pretty much a ghost town for the most part.

        • pat

          And I don’t blame them. Being a shitty team is one thing, but being a shitty team full of shitty peopledoing shitty things is another. Throw in the fact that there’s a shitbag at the helm of the shit ship and they’re just completely unlikable and embarrassing.

          • captain kiwi

            i agree with all of the above. but i think they’re mostly avoiding otm because they’re fans of a losing team. guarantee that if they keep the same scumbags in 2013, yet they have the same record as say, the nats, otm is gonna be as noisy as always.

  • ArchStanton

    So would Juan Cruz represent an upgrade at this point? He refused a AAA assignment and was having a good year for the Pirates.

    • Robinson Tilapia aka Melky’s Webmaster

      For peanuts? Worth a look, I guess.

  • The Real Greg

    Ciriaco just doesn’t do it against us.

    • The Real Greg

      Forget this.

  • The Real Greg

    Is Pedro Ciriaco for real?

  • captain kiwi

    the min-tex game looks interesting too.

  • Pat D

    I was about to watch a follow up video regarding the whole Bayless/Jeter thing. Before the video loaded I read a few of the comments on the article. After about 5 of them I decided not to waste those 10 minutes of my life.

    Seems as if Bayless is saying that unless they start testing for HGH everyone is suspicious. My question then is why did he single out Jeter to start.

    Other than the fact that he’s Toolbooth Willie, of course.