Game 133: Make It Four


(Jeff Zelevansky/Getty)

The Yankees and Orioles have split the first two games of this three-game set, and that’s good for the Yankees. Well, it’s more like the bare minimum than actually good. Baltimore hasn’t gained any ground in the standings despite two more days coming off the calendar, and the Bombers have a chance to push them to four games back in the division before going to Tampa. Here’s the lineup…

DH Derek Jeter
1B Nick Swisher
2B Robinson Cano
3B Eric Chavez
RF Raul Ibanez
Russell Martin
LF Ichiro Suzuki
CF Chris Dickerson
SS Jayson Nix

RHP Phil Hughes

This afternoon’s game is scheduled to start a little after 1pm ET and can be seen on YES locally and TBS nationally. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Mike N says:

    It would be really great to win today!

  2. Jag says:

    Go Yanks!

    If you asked me in April if this would be our lineup in September though… I’d have guessed we were either 10+ games ahead or 10+ games back.

    • Mike N says:

      Yeah, no A-Rod, no Teix, no Grandy, no Gardy. And if someone had asserted that Ichiro would be in the September lineup, I would have assumed they were drunk.

      • Pat D says:

        How do we know we’re not all drunk right now?

      • Mike says:

        No Granderson is a blessing in disguise, it is better to have Chris D. (LF), Ichiro (CF) and Swisher (RF), with Pearce at 1B (I liked better McGeehe), than to have Ichiro (0.280 LF), Granderson (0.230 CF) and Ibáñez (0.230 LF) with Swisher at 1B.

        With Granderson out of the lineup you at least get rid of 2-3 strikeouts per day, and maybe with a new CF all runners won’t take the extra base as they do with Granderson in CF (seriously only 37% of runners don’t take the extra base with Granderson in CF).

    • Cris Pengiucci says:

      Yeah, that lineup is not exactly instilling fear in most teams. They need to get some key base hits today and “play the game the right way”. (OK maybe Swish, Ibanez, and/or Jeter can hit one out.)

  3. Mike N says:

    Is everybody down the shore today??

    • jjyank says:

      Nope. I hate the shore on labor day weekend anyway. Beaches too crowded, too much traffic.

      • Mike N says:

        I love staying in NYC during holiday weekends when everyone else clears out.

        • Mike Axisa says:

          It’s the best. Usually have to wait 10-15 mins for a table at the diner for breakfast on Sundays, but today we walked right in and had our pick of where to sit.

          • Cris Pengiucci says:

            Yup. In my younger years (read “single”), had a couple of friends that had apartments in Manhattan and made it a point to spend summer holiday weekends there. Always easier to enjoy the city when a lot of people are out of town.

  4. Drew says:

    Go getum Hughes!

  5. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    My man C-Dick in the starting lineup!

    Watching the pregame show, and Nancy Newman is just awful. YES needs to replace her with someone more competent. And at the risk of sounding sexist, I wouldn’t mind if said replacement was also a female but younger and better looking.

    • Mike N says:

      I think Newman is pretty good. What you consider incompetent about her performance? And I’m not trying to be argumentative: I am genuinely curious what you dislike.

      • Mike N says:

        OK. Yeah, she’s doing game recaps now, and she could be smoother. A lot smoother. lolz

      • dan says:

        She is just not attractive at all. she doesn’t contribute anything important. Might as well be someone hot.They should do what espn started to do. Hire girls like Sarah Walsh and Rachel Nicolos. No more ugly ass linda cohn looking monsters.

      • Kempire Strikes Back says:

        The problem isn’t so much her appearance (even though it’s not that great) as it is that she fumbles her words and makes segues and transitions to other topics uncomfortable. She also doesn’t have very good chemistry with the other YES pundits. She just wasn’t cut out for live shows I guess.

      • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW) says:

        She can’t speak for one.

  6. Cy Pettitte says:

    taking 2 of 3 with the two wins coming against two of their better pitchers and without Teix, Grandy and Arod would be nice.

  7. The Moral Majority is Neither says:

    I think Hughes becomes a True Yankee today with a dominant performance.

  8. EDDARD says:

    Nobody beats Phil Hughes in Yankee Stadium. They rearranged the rotation just so Phil could pitch at home where he has been so dominant. He needs to prove them right with a great performance today.

  9. Dandy The Yankee says:

    Seeing this lineup takes me on that hot tub time machine trip back to the Stump Merrill years. For you younguns, that was not a good time to be a Yankee fan…

  10. Mike N says:

    I would like to see Hughes working the nasty breaking pitches today. That would make me happy.

  11. Wow…talk about stacking the lefties?

  12. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    Let’s get that ERA under 4, Phil.

  13. Kevin G. says:


  14. jjyank says:

    Painting the corner! Love it.

  15. dan says:

    Generous call

  16. EDDARD says:

    Big strike zone today. Phil will take advantage. Hitters need to be aggressive.

  17. Nathan says:

    What a LOL lineup.

  18. Countryclub says:

    Ump had a generous zone in the 1st. Hughes took advantage. Keep it up.

  19. Cy Pettitte says:

    maybe they should try that wind up with Betances /eternaloptimist

  20. Mike N says:

    Tillman seems like he has already lost the strike zone. This could be very good.

  21. Two very average pitchers: No baserunners till the fourth

    Probably their best pitcher: Lead off baserunner.

  22. Chilango says:

    Get Tillman NOW.

  23. Hall and Nokes says:

    Yankee batting line the last 14 days: .219/.292/.358.

    That’s anti-porn.

  24. jjyank says:

    Damn, right at ‘em.

  25. Chilango says:

    Cano took the first pitch. WOW

  26. Cy Pettitte says:

    things I never thought would be typed again: “Jason Bay just hit a grand slam”

  27. jjyank says:

    Nice, Swish!

  28. Is Swisher Okay? Sterling said something about coming down on railing?

  29. The Real Greg says:

    The reverse split is the key to why Hughes has pitched so well at home this year.

  30. Cy Pettitte says:

    man does Phil look good, loving the whiffs.

  31. RkyMtnYank says:

    Phil looking good so far.

  32. jjyank says:

    Phil looked nasty that inning.

  33. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    Hughes’s performance has pleased me so far.

  34. Tut says:

    Weird Stat: Phil has a walk to home run differential of 8. (38 – 30)

  35. Chilango says:

    Walks Martin hahaha

    • The Real Greg says:

      Usually that can lead to a hit because the first pitch is usually right down the middle to reestablish the strike zone.

  36. The Real Greg says:

    I don’t mind Ichiro swinging at that because it was right down the middle.

  37. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    C-Dickmis going to launch one. I’m calling it.

  38. The Real Greg says:

    Wow. He golfed it.

  39. Jag says:


  40. Kramerica Industries says:

    Chris Dickerson.


  41. Kevin G. says:

    Call up Dickerson !!!!!!!

  42. jjyank says:

    Wow Dickerson, he freaking crushed that.

  43. Need Pitching & Hitting says:


    (play him more, please)

  44. Mike N says:


  45. Bunt Gardner says:


  46. EDDARD says:

    Why weren’t these kids up here before yesterday? Nunez and now Dickerson. They’ve given us the life we needed.

  47. Chilango says:

    We got a BIG DICK

  48. Widget says:

    Should have called him up sooner assholes.

  49. Mike Axisa says:

    Chris “better than Ichiro” Dickerson.

  50. Kramerica Industries says:

    Last home run: 9/12/2011

    That was the moonshot against Felix, wasn’t it?


  52. tipsie says:

    Good thing he’s been tearing it up in AAA for the summer…


  53. Kempire Strikes Back says:



  54. Cy Pettitte says:

    yay productive bottom of the line up

  55. jjyank says:


  56. Cy Pettitte says:

    god damn, Jurickson Profar 1st AB goes deep. that was insanely impressive.

  57. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    Jeter sucks. Couldn’t even bring in that runner from third. DFA his old, overpaid ass.

  58. EDDARD says:

    Instead of Jones and McGhee we could have had Dickerson and Nunez up here all along helping us. They’ve given the team a jolt and injected some youth into the lineup. Hopefully next year we go with more young guys and less 35+ has beens.

  59. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    Fill Yughes

  60. Cy Pettitte says:

    that slider to the righties looks good.

  61. tyrone sharpton says:

    hughes looks great

  62. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    Markakis just got BABIP fucked.

  63. jjyank says:

    Yay for a shut-down inning. Thanks Phil.

  64. EDDARD says:

    Give Swisher that Werth contract. He deserves it.

  65. I really get the feeling that Sterling and Waldman do not like Hughes. Literally every inning, and some times every other batter, they’re like “This guy can take Hughes out, because Hughes gives up a lot of homers.”

  66. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Well Profar is legit.

  67. stuart a says:

    cano helping the team out with another 1 pitch AB…

    cano coming up small when they need him most…

    not a suprise he has never been a big game player……

  68. Thanks for your help Toronto…fucking Romero lasting 1ip

  69. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    C-Dick doing it with the bat and glove.

  70. Cy Pettitte says:

    Randy Wolf already? wow.

  71. Adam says:

    Wow, that Bedard trade really is incredible…

  72. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    The box score keeps saying that they are flying out to deep center. Is Fill Huse just getting lucky this inning?

  73. jjyank says:


  74. Chilango says:

    Phil’s Phastball is Moooving

  75. Mike N says:

    Hughes looking real good.

  76. DERP says:

    Glad to see Hughes isn’t an overpaid choker like Phelps.

  77. I know it’s early but with the expanded rosters there is no reason there shouldn’t be some pinch hitting going on with a lefty coming in and a bunch of lefties in the line up.

  78. jjyank says:

    Meredith looks pretty hot in that apron.

  79. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    Meredith kind of looks like that girl from Boy Meets World.

  80. Naved says:

    Hughes went from overrated to underrated.

  81. DERP says:

    Nice of the Orioles to give 85 million dollars to a guy with a .330 OBP.

    • jjyank says:

      Jones? Young, power hitting CF that plays good defense?

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      He’s almost posting 4 WAR this year but I love how people cherry pick other players and see why they suck.

      Say the same thing about someone like Gardner and prepare to get crucified.

  82. Adam says:

    Ha, ha, ha…gender roles are hysterical!

  83. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    Why was Ibanez batting?

  84. Mike N says:

    Why would he pinch-hit in the fourth inning with a two-run lead against a mediocre long relief guy and his own starter pitching great? How is this even a topic of discussion?

    • Chilango says:

      We need some more runs and Ibañez sucks. Why not take advantage of the expanded roster?

      • jjyank says:

        You make it sound like we have a ton of guys on the bench. Grandy isn’t going to be playing, ditto Tex. McGehee isn’t back yet. Andruw hasn’t been playing well anyway. Nunez I guess. But it’s also Randy Wolf in the fourth inning. Nothing to get worked up over IMO.

    • jjyank says:

      Yeah, I wouldn’t have pinch hit either.

    • Really just because there is the expanded roster, so the guys are there, and it’s a 2 run lead with a pitcher who (as much as I love him) still gives up a lot of homeruns, and apart from maybe (MAYBE) Chavez all of our healthy lefty hitters are platoon lefties.

      • Mike N says:

        It’s the fourth inning of a nine-inning game. You gotta keep some arrows in the quiver. I am surprised that this is even a topic of conversation. This is not a world series game or whatever, and no reason to play it like it is.

  85. Cy Pettitte says:


  86. Kramerica Industries says:

    And there’s the requisite two strike home run from Hughes.

  87. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    There’s the obligatory Phil Hughes home run.

  88. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    OK Phil, there is the requisite HR

    Settle down now.

  89. RetroRob says:

    Reynolds decides to get hot now, in September? I’ve had him on my fantasy team all year and he has sucked.

  90. Mike N says:

    Let’s keep it limited to that.

  91. Chilango says:

    Suck it up Phil 1, 2, 3.

  92. The Real Greg says:

    I figured it would be Reynolds. Right handed, the power to hit it out of the deep left field.

  93. Countryclub says:

    When Hughes gives up a HR to a righty, it’s almost always because his fastball tails back over the plate.

  94. Jamey says:

    Hughes’ HR problem wouldn’t be so aggravating if he was just usually getting beat by a hitter having a really good at-bat. It just seems like the majority of them are meatballs to big power hitters, pitches they never should’ve seen.

  95. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    Uh oh…come on Hughes.

  96. Adam says:

    OK that is awesome about Angel Hernandez…

  97. All of Hughes’ pitches to Andino have been up before that slider. Just something to be weary of.

  98. Cy Pettitte says:

    those Kays are hilarious

  99. Suzyn is complaining that Hughes is “already” in the mid 80s in pitches in the 5th. Isn’t that like REALLY good?

  100. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    Is Phil getting fatigued?

  101. Widget says:

    was hoping for a better outing from Hughes. I should have known better. Can’t wait to watch a piece of garbage like Randy Wolf shutdown the Yankees for the rest of this game.

  102. Chilango says:

    Stop them here Phil

  103. Mike N says:


  104. jjyank says:

    Nasty slider there. Good job Hughes.

  105. Cy Pettitte says:

    very nice, Phil

  106. Chilango says:

    BIG K. Now let’s get him some runs.

  107. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    This slutter of his. Is this the out pitch we have been looking for?

    • Cy Pettitte says:

      looks like it, much more effective than fastball/curve to the righties and when he misses with it he misses away and off the plate so he doesn’t get burned

    • Could be. However I’d be weary to signing Hughes long term if he re-adds the slider to his arsenal. I mean the pitching instructors in the minors got rid if it because they were afraid it could eventually damage his elbow.

      • IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

        He’s 25 now though. As long as he doesn’t throw it 30% of the time I don’t see why there would be a problem.

  108. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    More runs please. It is Randy Wolf pitching, after all.

  109. The Troll says:

    The question is, can Randy Wolf of all people, shut down a AAAA lineup?

  110. Mike Axisa says:

    Chris “still better than Ichiro” Dickerson.

  111. The Real Greg says:

    Brian S, Your boy McCallister isn’t doing well of late

  112. Cy Pettitte says:

    where’s Balkin’ Bob when you need him?

  113. Seriously..I still don’t understand why you don’t let a fast guy like Dickerson try to steal as opposed to bunting?

  114. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    Bunt? BUNT???

  115. The Real Greg says:

    I kind of question that, but let’s see what happens.

  116. The Troll says:

    I think we all have to be happy with Jayson Nix . . . . Now if only they had kept DeWayne Wise! Two bench players that I’ve always appreciated.

  117. Wow…Wolf is incredibly slow to the plate.

  118. Jeter really put a charge in that, but just hit it to the wrong place.

  119. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    Jeter is not a legitimate leader.

    /The Dictator’d

  120. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    Fucking bunt really?

  121. Cy Pettitte says:


  122. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Garbage. Time.

  123. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Yanks are Playing The Game The Right Way

  124. Mike N says:


    I knew we would get to Wolf! He stinks!

  125. Mike Axisa says:

    Garbage time hit. Just an insurance run? Pffft.

  126. jjyank says:

    Garbage time!

  127. The Real Greg says:

    It worked!

  128. Effthisnoise says:


  129. Nathan says:

    Ya gotta ask for time there, Robbie.

  130. Mike N says:

    I missed that. What did Lane say to Cano after the first pitch?

  131. Cy Pettitte says:

    yuck, that was not a pretty AB Robbie…

  132. Effthisnoise says:

    Wow robbie

  133. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    That was a despicable at bat by Robbie.

  134. The Troll says:

    What the hell is going on with Cano lately? I hate to take a page out of Stuart A’s playbook but, Cano with men on and Cano without seem to be two entirely different players . . .

  135. Cy Pettitte says:

    Hughes looks like he may be running out of gas

  136. Chilango says:

    Let’s not return the favor with walks Phil.

  137. Mike N says:

    Don’t like lead-off walks…

  138. The Real Greg says:

    Bullpen will be up and getting ready.

  139. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Short leash please

  140. Damnit Philbert, get your head on straight.

  141. Chilango says:

    Don’t leave him in too long.

  142. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    He needs to come out. Now.

  143. AaronGuielWithASmile says:


  144. Mike N says:

    Are they ready in the pen????

  145. The Real Greg says:

    This will be his last batter. He is not facing Mark Reynolds again.

  146. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    Dammit Hughes.

  147. EDDARD says:

    Once again, Joe too slow to get the pen going. This is September. The hooks must be quicker. Hughes struggled last inning. Now the lead will be gone.

  148. Cy Pettitte says:

    leaving him in the face Reynolds…..

  149. Effthisnoise says:

    Joe slow with the hook

  150. Kramerica Industries says:

    Christ almighty, Phil.

  151. Chilango says:

    Shit. Here we gooooooo

  152. JobaWockeeZ says:

    He’s in there against Reynolds? This has two outcomes. HR or K.

  153. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    Game is on the line right now. Please put in someone good.

  154. EDDARD says:

    Girardi just cost us the game.

  155. Kramerica Industries says:


  156. Cy Pettitte says:

    fucking knew that was coming. disgusting.

  157. Mike N says:


  158. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Well, fuck.

  159. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Fucking Girardi.

    Way to fucking fall asleep at the wheel.

  160. Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW) says:

    John & Suzyn were right.

  161. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Who didn’t see this coming? Hughes sucks.

  162. The Real Greg says:

    Then that is Girardi. A costly mistake.

  163. 28 this year says:


  164. Nathan says:


    • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW) says:

      5 runs? That’s an RAB ace. He shut them down…after giving up 5 runs. By exiting the game.

  165. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    Of course.

  166. The Troll says:

    This game’s strictly on Girardi.

  167. Effthisnoise says:

    And this loss will hang completely on Girardi, what an effing idiot

  168. Widget says:

    Brilliant job all around team. Between Hughes being garbage, the offense being it’s typical garbage self, and of course the manager that apparently fell asleep.

    Just choke out the division already.

    • jjyank says:

      I’d rather they don’t choke out anything. But I wouldn’t expect anything else from one of your comments.

      • Widget says:

        I don’t want them to gag either, but what evidence have they shown since the all star break to make you think otherwise? It feels inevitable.

        • jjyank says:

          They got a month to get healthy and find a groove. It’s well within the realm of possibility.

          Speaking of which, it’s entirely possible that the Yankees lose this game and still win the division.

  169. xnyles says:

    Fuck Girardi. You can’t have this guy Mark Reynolds all over the plate. Brush him back. God dammit.

  170. Adam says:

    Eh, we have more runs coming against Wolf.

  171. Kramerica Industries says:

    And this is also why the idea that Phil can control when he gives up home runs is a hideously flawed argument.

    That three run shot just changed this entire game. Unreal.

    • jjyank says:

      I don’t think the concept is THAT flawed. Limiting baserunners is a skills. If a pitcher doesn’t walk many and has good K numbers, it seems possible. Hughes has had plenty of games where that was true. But this is baseball, nothing is consistant.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      How? Not allowing HRs is a skill.

      • Kramerica Industries says:

        Not allowing HRs is a skill, but it is not a skill to be able to only allow HRs with the bases empty.

        Ivan Nova gave up 14 HRs last year, all solo shots. You don’t think stuff like that is sustainable, right?

  172. The Real Greg says:

    So you all want him fired?

    • The Troll says:

      Greg. STFU. For god’s sake, STFU. Your mind is a minefield of inebriated schizophrenics. You are insane. Baseball is not your forte.

  173. Mike N says:

    Well, at least Wolf stinks, so if we keep it to two runs, that is far from insurmountable.

  174. Chilango says:

    Saw this one coming a fucking mile away. It’s on Girardi

  175. EDDARD says:

    That pen should have been up and ready after Phil was clearly off last inning. Once it was 1st and 3rd no outs, a reliever should have been brought in. This is September. You don’t just sit around and let tired pitches give up HRs.

  176. Hoss says:

    I am sorry, but not even a visit to the mound? That is the kind of sequence that defines poor coaching and managing.

  177. stuart a says:

    don’t worry Cano will come up big when it counts……………..

  178. C says:

    Don’t worry guys, we have Chavez-Ibanez-Martin due up in the bottom of the 6th.

  179. wow says:

    too little too late. he was obviously gassed and this joke of a lineup won’t do anything about it.

  180. The Real Greg says:


    It’s over. Can’t be changed.

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      This kind of logic can be expanded into almost everything one does in life.

      And if it is, then it basically defeats the purpose of ever criticizing or getting mad/annoyed/angry over, well, anything.

      Phrased succinctly – the logic sucks.

  181. Mike N says:

    I wonder if companies like AT&T should want to be associated with “The Call to the Bullpen”?

  182. Will The Thrill says:

    I honestly won’t miss Phil Hughes if he isn’t on the Yankees in 2013. Flyball pitchers have no business pitching for the Yankees.

    • Reggie C. says:

      He’s a relative cheap 4 starter and yes Hughes will be back in 2013. I doubt he’s back in 2014 if a small bidding war breaks out.

  183. Kevin says:

    Dum managing by Girardi..the minute the RBI single scored he should have been yanked.

  184. The Real Greg says:

    the fact that Eppley’s in against the lefty tells me that something might have malfunctioned between the bullpen and the dugout.

  185. Nathan says:

    I hope the Yankees dont count on Hughes for more than the #4 or #5 slot next year.

    • Travis L. says:

      What if we use Hughes as a late inning reliever? Sabathia, Kuroda, Pettitte, Phelps and Nova or a competition of Nova, Banuelos (if healthy), Marshall, Nuno, Hall. That would actually give us a decent bullpen with Robertson, Hughes, Soriano, Rivera, Whitley and Logan…among others.

  186. Mike Axisa says:

    Three lefties in the bullpen and not one came in to face Davis? Did Joe fall asleep or something?

  187. Chilango says:

    Now the soft underbelly of Eppley and Rapada.

  188. King George says:

    This is all on Girardi. You knew Phil was gassed two batters into the inning.

  189. Mike N says:

    Eppley should not be on a major league roster. He is just fucking horrendous. Why not bring in Joba with no men on base?

  190. Kevin says:

    Hughes needs to be traded in the offseason..period.

  191. stuart a says:

    can eppley ever throw a clean iining?

    the guy gets a pass and he has been bad for at least 60 games….

  192. stuart a says:

    joba or eppley they both suck.. move phelps to the pen, he can be your bridge to robertson and soriano….phelps and logan are there best bridges and neither of those guys are stanton/mendoza….

  193. According to Suzyn, Alex is coming back tomorrow and he’s bringing presents!!!!

  194. The Real Greg says:

    I wonder if Girardi wanted Eppley to get up for Reynolds, but do to some error the call never got to the bullpen until it was too late.

  195. Mike N says:

    Let’s hit Wolf! He stinks!!

  196. Will The Thrill says:

    The Yankees need a more experienced manager with better instincts. I feel like Girardi is still learning on the job sometimes. Terry Francona please.

  197. The Troll says:

    Damn. This game got shitty in a hurry.

  198. The Real Greg says:

    Because Girardi doesn’t usually make that mistake. He took Freddy Garcia out early in a start recently, if you recall.

  199. stuart a says:

    hughes is 26.. he is a 4th or 5th starter, they are not trading him unless they get a nice return. giving up on young guys early is a bad strategy…

    thsi team is ancient.. kuroda is 37 and has no deal for next year. pettitte is 40 and been hurt 2 years in arow… freddy garcia is garbage…. they are not giving up a 26 year old because he imploded in the 6th inning of game 130ish…

  200. Widget says:

    I hope they lose already so they won’t lose in playoffs lol. I like Jackson’s nose!

  201. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Kill Girardi all you want (and I agree, he should’ve given Hughes a quicker hook,) but the ultimate responsibility here still lands on the pitcher who completely fell off a cliff after 90 pitches.

  202. stuart a says:

    yankees issue is the offense sucks…they have not bashed often this year….

    wolf in for the starter was a blessing with the yanks lefty reliance.. this is a platoon roster………

  203. Matt says:

    That implosion was no shock to anybody except Hughes and Martin.

    It was obvious that by the second time through the order the Baltimore hitters knew what was coming every at bat. They just weren’t able to quite square it up until Hughes started making mistakes in location the third time through.

    Every time he got the second strike on a right-handed batter, Hughes threw a slider down and away. Hitters were spitting on the tough 0-2 slider, and waiting for him to come back with a fastball on the inner half. The few times that he doubled up, the hitters nearly fell over swinging and missing.

    Against Markakis, he threw 4 straight changeups in the same spot down and away in 1 AB. He made a good pitch, but he was waiting for it and wasn’t fooled. A straight changeup is useless if you don’t change it off of anything.

    Reynolds knew he wasn’t going to get a fastball in that last AB. Every time that Hughes gave up a hit on his fastball, he threw all offspeed the next AB. He sat back and got a hanger, which maybe he fouls back if Hughes had set it up with a fastball. Reynolds swings through a ton of fastballs, and he only hit a mistake in his previous at bat.

    I’m sure the Baltimore hitters can see the same things that I’m seeing. It’s not a shock, to anyone but this battery, that Hughes got smacked around once the hitters had seen him enough to hit the pitches they knew were coming.

  204. Cuso says:

    Nice stroke Chavez E. Chavez

  205. stuart a says:

    i pinch hit for ibanez right now..

  206. Cuso says:

    I have come to bring 4 runs.

    Then I’ll leave again

  207. stuart a says:

    get ayala in the game. pinch hit moron………….

  208. The Real Greg says:

    Well anyway, I;m sure the reporters will ask him about it in post game and we will see what he says.

    • Hoss says:

      Real Greg,
      Here is how the reporters will ask:
      “Joe, How great is it that you have guys that give it all that they have? How hard is it for you to have the heart of your team injured? How fantastic is it to have Dickerson and Nunny come up and give you a boost”?
      Yah, they ask all of the right questions. If only they asked the right questions. If only we had a competent GM and manager.

  209. Chilango says:

    What is Ibañez doing still in the game?

  210. Cuso says:

    Russell ya-ya. Let’s go.

  211. Mike N says:

    C’mon, Russell!

  212. The Troll says:

    Ok. Time to cut both Ibanez and Jones. Put in Musty, FuckyFucky, and some other outfielder bat.

  213. Mike N says:


  214. wow says:

    the joke lineup strikes again. surprise, surprise.

  215. stuart a says:

    giradi is fucking idiot. could have gotten the starter out fo the game and gotten ayala in the game. andrus jones sucks but I do not care you want wold out and ayala in.

    bad non move girardi… ibanez is under 200 way under against lefties……..

  216. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    Russlol Martin

  217. EDDARD says:

    Notice how Buck had Ayala throwing in the pen for Nix and Jeter. If that ball by Martin goes through to center Wolf pitches to Ichiro then he’s out. One manager is thinking ahead, the other is asleep at the wheel in the most critical series of the year.

  218. stuart a says:

    martin sucks that is a given. girardi bad non move a huge mistake not pinch hitting for ibanez there. newsflash girardi the 8th and 9th are strong for the orioles.. you play more depereate earlier in the game you fu-kin idiot….

  219. Kramerica Industries says:

    While we’re at it, I would like to tender a hearty thanks to the Blue Jays for showing up and playing today.

    Although, in truth, that just might be a team tarring the hell out of Rickey Romero like they’re supposed to.

  220. Cy Pettitte says:

    Epply against Markakis, this should end well.

  221. Effthisnoise says:

    This offense can’t come back from this. Clueless joe cost the yanks this game. Hughes should have been pulled when he walked The lead off hitter. Def should not have pitched to a guy that took him deep last AB.

  222. The Real Greg says:

    Again, Girardi usually doesn’t make that mistake which leads me to believe that something went haywire between the dugout and bullpen.

    Also part of the blame has to go to Rothschild for not taking the initiative to go out there.

  223. Widget says:

    No matter how many pep talks or closed door meetings Girardi can give, it doesn’t change the fact that Martin sucks and this team is flat.

  224. Mike N says:

    Still Eppley???

  225. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    It’s almost like Eppley can’t get lefties out.
    If only they had extra relievers in the bullpen.

  226. Hoss says:

    Even the announcers on YES are starting to question Joe’s moves. This is truly pathetic.

  227. Cy Pettitte says:

    fuck Girardi. he over-manages every games that we’re losing 6-0 or something like that then in a close game that we were winning he does nothing. what an utter shithead.

  228. Chilango says:

    Girardi overmanages with his mix and match bullshit then leaves Hughes in way too long, and doesn’t pinch hit for Ibañez. Go figure

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      Seems like Ibanez is facing a LHP in big spots multiple times a week.

      I understand not PHing for him in the 4th – that’s early. The 6th, as the tying run? Not so much.

  229. Adam says:

    Out of curiosity, do you all enjoy making the game threads entirely unenjoyable? And if so, will you disappear when the team gets on a roll again?

  230. Cuso says:


    Joe Girardi is to Cody Eppley as

    Joe Torre is to Scott Proctor

  231. The Real Widget says:

    Hey hey look at that someone pretending to be me. Oh my so funny. You guys are hilarious!!!!!!!

  232. stuart a says:

    why leave ibanez in the game. sure andruw will probably get out but you get ayala in the game.. HE SUCKS AND IS A RIGHTY.

    can’t believe girardi fucking up like this. he is usually a good manager….

    on the hughes front after jones gets a hit i am taking hughes out……for sure after the wieters hit. BAD BAD GIRARDI.

    rapada the great fielder is in the gam that game we gave away…now it really hurts….

  233. EDDARD says:

    If this 10 game lead is lost Girardi should go as Francona did. There’s no excuse for falling asleep on the job in the 5th inning of the biggest series of the year.

  234. EDDARD says:

    Now Girardi does his job, after the damage is already done.

  235. Mike N says:

    Now Joba comes in with a runner in scoring position?????

    • stuart a says:

      who else do the yhave? no one.. pileing on Giradi now is sunday morning nonsense..

      he should have pinch hit for Ibanez and taken Hughes out, joba or some other sack of sh-t does it matter…………

  236. Effthisnoise says:

    Now the over managing. I guarantee joba gives up a run here

  237. Kevin says:

    Girardi should be fired if we miss the playoffs. No other manager will fall asleep at the wheel with a lead that big.

  238. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Do September call-ups also include managers, or just players?

  239. RBC says:

    Can’t Girardi leave Rapada in for an inning?

  240. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Remember when we thought that Joba would be a savior this summer?

  241. Chilango says:

    Joba. WRISP. Oh boy

  242. Effthisnoise says:

    Jobs is so fat. Good lord dude

  243. Kempire Strikes Back says:

    I left for like 20 minutes to eat lunch. What the fuck happened?

  244. Effthisnoise says:

    Joba Is so fat. Good lord dude

  245. The Troll says:

    I’m not the only one that despises the one pitcher-one batter phenomenon am I?

  246. Karl Krawfid says:

    1 pitch pitcher.

  247. Chilango says:

    All sliders. afraid to throw the heat?

  248. Cy Pettitte says:


  249. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Dickerson!!! Wow!

  250. Karl Krawfid says:

    Holy shit Dickerson.

  251. Mike N says:

    WE LOVE DICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  252. EDDARD says:

    Without Dickerson we’d be losing 7-0.

  253. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Chris Dickerson 6 years, $80 million. Do it, Ca$h.

  254. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Saving Joba’s useless ass.

    • stuart a says:

      joba cannot locate his fastball at all. they leak over the plate every time.. like the hughes first homer to reynolds..

      yanks come back to win a game in the 9th.. not happened this year but do not worry we have Cano and his clutchness on our side…

      Cano gets a pass on his performance no diea why…

  255. Mike Axisa says:

    So why did the Yankees trade for Ichiro again? Oh right, name value.

  256. Hoss says:

    And thank you, Brian Cashman, for leaving Dickerson at Empire State all season.

  257. Cuso says:

    I know it’s only one game….

    it looks like Dickerson has put it all together to become at the very least a 75% playing time player. They need to bring him back next year.

  258. Charles says:

    Anyone else think that having Dickerson get more time than Jones down the stretch wouldn’t be a bad thing? He can run/play D and actually seems to play like he wants to be here.

  259. If somebody doesn’t hit for Ichiro or C-Dick I’m going to assume that Joe’s throwing in the towel.

  260. Mike N says:

    Wolf is still in there. HIT HIM!!!!!!!!

  261. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    I know that the Yankees don’t exactly have the A+ lineup out there, but 2 runs off Randy fucking Wolf really isn’t too much to ask.

  262. The Troll says:

    Damn. Apparently I missed a spectacular catch. In all seriousness, though, why was the Dick NOT brought up earlier? He clearly possesses an assortment of valuable tools that the Major League club could’ve utilized. Why trade for an Ichiro when you have a solid Dick waiting to burst out and pop up to the bigs? A big Dick is better than a farm Dick. Am I right or am I right?!

    • AaronGuielWithASmile says:

      I assume roster flexibility was the reason (although I agree, Dickerson looks a lot more useful than Ichiro or Jones right now.)

  263. Chilango says:

    We can’t hit Randy fucking Wolf?

  264. Mike N says:

    I wonder if Ichiro’s swing has alwayed looked so spazzy? Even when he hit that home run one of his first games as a Yank, he looked like he was swinging a broom at a pigeon or something.

  265. Mike Axisa says:

    Not exactly a banner day for Girardi. No idea how all the RHB are on the bench while Wolf enters his fourth inning of work.

  266. Mike N says:


  267. Karl Krawfid says:

    What! He takes out Dickerson!

  268. EDDARD says:

    That’s why they got Ichiro, he’s a professional hitter. Jones for Dickerson? Are you kidding me?

  269. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Keep Ibanez in and PH for Dickerson …smfh.

    • Tom says:

      Well at least now Girardi has Jones glove in the OF now to go with Ibanez.

      Girardi has made a lot of mistakes this game, starting with the lineup and the inability to grasp the concept of platooning.

      (And to the Girardi apologist out there, no I don’t want him fired)

  270. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    So Ichiro stays in and Dickerson gets pinch hit? Gimme a break!

    • AaronGuielWithASmile says:

      I actually meant Ibanez, but the complaint’s valid either way.

      I’m usually a big Girardi defender, but I dunno wtf he’s doing today.

  271. Hahaha, Pitch F/X actually recognizes the eephus pitch as a real pitch?

  272. Kramerica Industries says:

    Only logic with Andruw has to be that he’s due.

    That .138 BA since the ASB is just unsightly.

  273. Matt says:

    Wow. Jones has been so bad lately that Showalter is leaving in a soft tossing lefty to face him. That really shows you something.

  274. Cuso says:

    I hate this textbook move.

    Prove me wrong Andruw

  275. Effthisnoise says:

    Great move joe

  276. Why is everbody freaking out that C-Dick got pinch hit for against a LHP?

    • Matt says:

      Probably because that pinch hitter is hitting .138/.222/.250 in 80 AB since the all star break?

      • The Real Greg says:


        Everybody was freaking out because Dickerson was having a good day and he PH for him.

        Hypocrisy at its best.

        • Matt says:

          Dickerson is a much better hitter than Ichiro at this point in their careers. It is not hypocritical at all.

          To you, everyone who has anything negative to say is a hypocrite. Except it’s actually you who can’t read, and twists everything in his own head until it sounds nothing like what was actually said.

      • Matt says:

        In 78 career AB vs LHP, Dickerson by comparison is hitting .244/.330/.308

    • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

      Because CDick is actually having a good game. Because Jones sucks. Because he didn’t PH for Ibanez. Or Ichiro. Both of whom were more logical to be PH for than Dickerson.

    • AaronGuielWithASmile says:

      It’s not so much that he pinch hit Dickerson, it’s that he declined to go to Jones again and again, waiting until the one lefty in the lineup who’s actually done anything today.

    • jjyank says:

      Because a good game suddenly has the more reactionary commenters on here proclaiming him a savior, how dare he be pinch hit for.


    • Chilango says:

      It was JONES

  277. The Troll says:

    HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Gire Girardi has JUST become a serious movement. No excuses today. NONE. Most important series of the year and he pulls this dumb ass shit. Can Cashman, Levine, or Steinbrenner bench Girardi? C’mon! This is getting to be re-god-damn-diculous!

  278. EDDARD says:

    I can’t believe Joe took out Dickerson for Jones. And in the on deck circle pinch hitting for Derek Jeter….Frankie Cervelli!

  279. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Well that was definitely worthwhile. Take out the one guy having a good game. Makes perfect sense. Glad they were able to keep Ibanez in the game.

  280. The Real Greg says:

    The hypocrisy about the pinch hitting being shown on this site is incredible.

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

      Your mom’s incredible.

      • The Real Greg says:

        Thank you. You are so childish that you had to reach for a “your mom” joke. I now know that I can kick your ass.

        • The Troll says:

          Wait a second . . . Greg, you’re kidding me, right? Did you ACTUALLY just say that? I refuse to believe that I just read that. Any fraction, any modicum of credibility that you MAY have had has been entirely terminated. It’s BECAUSE of that comment that I now know that sodomizing you would be a terribly unholy pleasure. Always watch your back, Greg.

        • Kempire Strikes Back says:


      • The Troll says:

        Agreed. Your mom was so delightfully dirty last night.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

      What hypocrisy?
      Wanting shitty hitters who have done nothing and can’t hit lefties to be PH for, but not wanting a hitter who is actually being productive to be PH for isn’t hypocrisy, it’s common sense.

      Something Girardi has showed a disturbing lack of today.

  281. Chilango says:

    Jones swings for the fences and pops up, of course.

  282. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    Why does Girardi allow Ibanez to bat twice against Wolf but pulls Dickerson when he is having a great day?

  283. Cy Pettitte says:

    sacrificing his body for the team. profesional baseball player.

  284. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Haha, I’ll take it. Way to lean in there Nix.

  285. Mike N says:

    Remember yesterday’s seventh!!!!!!!!!!!!! AGAIN!!!!!!!!!

  286. Chilango says:

    Yanks catch a break let’s go

  287. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Did Ayala throw 95 when he was on the Yankees? I remember him being serviceable, but not a flamethrower.

  288. Cy Pettitte says:

    you gotta be fucking kidding me Jeter.

  289. Kramerica Industries says:

    Anything but a double play.


  290. Karl Krawfid says:

    Don’t know how this team will hold this 2 game lead for a month.

  291. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    They can’t really be sending Joba back out there right?

  292. EDDARD says:

    Alex better be back tomorrow and Teixera for that Baltimore series. If not, we’ll be down 2 by the end of that stretch. They say managers don’t add many wins during the season but ours certainly added a loss today.

  293. The Real Greg says:

    Good night inmates. The madness has taken over the asylum once again.

  294. Chilango says:

    Joba again? Saving DRob for matinee tomorrow.

  295. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Take him out please. Before this gets out of hand.

  296. EDDARD says:

    I think Joe wants to take the heat off of himself so he’s sending Joba out there to make sure it’s a blowout.

  297. Cy Pettitte says:

    Girardi: “I have no interest in try to keep this game close after I already blew it”

  298. Matt says:

    The Orioles have a good bullpen. You can’t blow leads in the middle innings and expect to have a good chance of still salvaging that game.

    If they lose this game, they are in big time trouble. You can’t deny that anymore, because there is no guarantee that A-Rod with 2 rehab games under his belt and Granderson are going to save this team when they go into Tampa and Baltimore. They can’t beat the other teams in the league, and now they can’t beat their division foes either with how they are playing right now. How are they going to make up for these losses? They could be in the 2nd wild card spot by the middle of the week if they don’t start playing with a new kind of intensity, and that includes the last few innings of this game.

    If they keep playing like this, there is no guarantee that they make the playoffs either. This is not a slump, this is .500 baseball for 2 months straight. They are legitimately bad right now, and no guarantee that it will change.

  299. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Give Wade a shot. There’s at least some chance he might be good.

    • Tom says:


      Joba needs work to hopefully get his command back, but a 2 run game against a team chasing you is not the place to do it.

  300. Cuso says:

    Take note:

    In case there was any question what the Yankees think of Andruw’s “superior glove,” they actually moved Ibanez FROM Right Field TO Left Field when they entered Jones in the game and put Andruw in Right.

    Statement made. Jones is pretty much useless at this point. Isn’t hitting lefties and isn’t a good fourth outfielder as envisioned.

  301. Effthisnoise says:

    Girardi has done everything to lose this game. Now joba still in, walk and single after he should of given up a 2 run bomb last inning.

  302. Mike N says:

    Please keep this a two-run game. PLEASE!

  303. Karl Krawfid says:

    God damn Girardi.

  304. Chilango says:

    Joba against Reynolds? Makes perfect sense. NOW Joe takes him out. 2 on nobody out. You saw this coming a mile away. Fuck you Girardi.

  305. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    And Joba will be magically fixed by next season?

  306. Justin Thomas making his debut in a two run game w/ runners on and no outs in a very big divisional game?! Seriously Joe…I love you but what in gods name is happening right now?!

  307. Jimmy Is Key To David's Cone says:

    If the Yankees aren’t going to be good enough to hold onto the division, I kind of hope that they just epically collapse over the next month so that Joe can get fired. That would help the team next year, at least.

  308. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Derek Lowe now?

  309. Kramerica Industries says:

    Nice to see Jobber brought his stuff with him, again, today.

    I won’t be able to chime in the rest of the way, but I just gotta say it’s lovely to see this team on the verge of losing another home series against the division, and especially the Orioles. Assuming they do, that’s 14-13 at home in the division, and five out of nine series lost. Not stellar, at all.

    Oh, and only 2 up on Baltimore, and 3.5 on TB. With seven games against two coming up.

    • Matt says:

      Joba did bring his stuff. He just doesn’t have command because he hasn’t pitched much and has barely pitched in the last year seeing as he just had TJS. His fastball was 96 and his slider had good bite on it. What can he do if he never gets work to shake off the rust?

  310. Hoss says:

    Anyone else here think that Andruw Jones looks/plays closer to 45 than 35?

  311. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Glass-half full: if you had told me that some combination of Justin Thomas and Derek Lowe would be pitching in the 8th inning of a critical September game, I wouldn’t guess that we’d be leading the division.

  312. Karl Krawfid says:

    Where the fuck is D-Rob?

  313. Effthisnoise says:

    Lol. Girardi such a tool

  314. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Can we at least find out if maybe Wade got straightened out?
    Is it necessary to keep going to Joba and Lowe so they can continue to prove they suck?

  315. Cy Pettitte says:

    losing in the 8th: match up for every hitter
    winning in the 6th: leave Hughes in to get hammered

  316. Matt says:

    Joba’s story is really more one of an inept offense.

    Of course he’s not going to be sharp with his command right away coming back from Tommy John Surgery. His stuff is excellent, but his command is off.

    Usually, you would be able to shake that rust off by pitching in lower leverage situations and getting work. However, this offense has been so terrible lately that every game has been close, even games that feel like they have been blowouts with the number of guys that have been on base.

    Joba has pitched twice in the last two weeks, when his command was already off. What do you expect?

  317. Yankee in CT says:

    I really would like to get a detailed explanation for taking C-Dick out for ANDRUW JONES. Of course they will p*ussy*foot around Girardi in the post game. He will get defensive and bark at the reporters.

  318. The Troll says:

    OMFG. He’s bringing in Lowe. Mike, good luck writing the gamecap for this one. On this day, I doth pity you.

  319. Cy Pettitte says:

    so Derek Lowe is better than Cory Wade? please.

    • Yes. But that’s like saying that being murdered than raped is better than being raped then murdered. Neither are preferable.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

        Wade pitched well in AAA. He pitched well early in the season. He pitched well last year. I don’t have expectations, but there is at least a chance he could be good. Why not find out, instead of using pitchers that you know aren’t good?

  320. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Lowe immediately gives up a hit.
    Well that is shocking.

  321. Tom says:

    I’m hoping for the best, but this doesn’t seem like it will end well for Lowe

  322. Remember when there where mentions here of putting Lowe into the rotation…LOL

  323. Mick taylor says:

    Girardi is an idiot. He should have had someone up in the bullpen in the 6th in case he neede to pull Hughes. Once he walked mccouth he should have yanked him. And pulling Chris dickerson for andruw jones is ridiculos. Jones should be dfa. Idiot girardi should have pinch hit Nunez if he wanted a righty bat.

  324. Cy Pettitte says:

    my god, he’s gonna use every single guy in the pen but he couldn’t pull Hughes with the lead when he was gassed?

  325. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    This is not good.

  326. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Yankee pitchers who wear the number 34…not that great in recent years.

  327. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Expected suckiness is expected.

  328. EDDARD says:

    LOL! 3-1 wouldn’t want to take out a tired pitcher. 6-3 deficit let’s use every damn pitcher we have for 1/3rd of an inning. Great logic.

  329. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:


  330. Hoss says:

    Worst managing I have seen this season. Period. Joe had better close the clubhouse doors today.

  331. RBC says:

    So the Derek Lowe experiment has been a dud

  332. Hummingbird S. says:

    Derek Lowe and Cody Eppley, why does Girardi love them so much? What a fucking moron.

  333. Effthisnoise says:

    Girardi is a fucking clown right now. You under manage with Hughes on the mound and now its out of control. Cashman has to be seeing this and realizing this isn’t about injuries. This game was winnable with the right moves.

  334. Cuso says:

    Man. Good thing they won yesterday…

  335. Matt says:

    Amazing that when the same things continue to not work for almost a month, the Yankees continue to do them. Eppley is terrible. Lowe is not a set up man. Joba’s command is not back. Yet, they refuse to try anything else, call anyone up, or even give the semblance of making an effort to turn the situation around.

    Mark Montgomery? Cory Wade? There are arms that could at least replicate what guys like Eppley and Joba are doing right now, or be better.

  336. Logan…finally a pitcher I have a modicum of confidence in.

  337. Chilango says:

    Really haven’t seen such bad managing in a long time. Can’t wait for the postgame.

  338. jsolano_NYY says:

    so let me get this straight girardi u lost this game for us today dude if we lose.. u leave phil hughs in to face a hot mark reynold. u dont bring in any of the leftys and leave epps in you let randy wolf just mow down the yankees with all the rightys on the bench.. u dont pinch hit for ichiro or ibanez but u fuckin pinch hit for the only yankee doing ANYTHING in chris dickerson give me a break im done. now ur bringin in derek lowe .. of course why not just open the door and let these guys take first smfh

  339. The Troll says:

    This is actually quite impressive. The Yankees have somehow managed to out-suck each previous loss. That’s amazing considering how bad this post AS streak has been.

  340. Cuso says:

    Ugh….and Lou Pinella’s squeaky voice tomorrow…..

    Oh, wait. I’m blacked out on MLB network so I get Dwayne Staats….


  341. Jimmy Is Key To David's Cone says:

    I wasn’t even watching the game when Hughes blew up in the 5th — I was listening to Kay/Singleton while doing chores. I heard the first walk, then I heard “Up and in, almost hit him there”, and I thought “Oh, great, home run on this at bat.” Then…shocking, home run. It wasn’t a hard prediction to make for anybody who has followed Hughes at all this year. When he loses his control he hits or almost hits players, and then almost immediately afterward he puts one right down the pipe.

    Then I heard Lowe was coming in with runners on 1st and 2nd and 1 out, and I thought “Oh great, look forward to the base hits.” Sure enough.

    Girardi is one of the best in the league at giving away 1-2 run games. It doesn’t help that he has such a weak bullpen, but still, the world will not end if you use D-Rob in a non-setup situation when the Yankees could really use a win. No matter what the binder says.

  342. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Not for nothing, but Tex gets that ball.

  343. Tom says:

    You got to be shitting me….

  344. Cy Pettitte says:

    holy shit, am I watching an SNL spoof of Yankees baseball?

  345. Karl Krawfid says:

    What the fuck is Joe doing?

  346. Mike N says:

    This is hideous.

  347. Chilango says:

    Hey how bout the O’s run differential…17 – 7

  348. Chilango says:

    Hey how bout the O’s run differential…17 – 7

  349. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly Brian S.) says:

    Is the crowd booing Joe? Would be appropriate.

  350. Apparently Joe is managing drunk right now and I can’t take the bullpen bullshit any more. This is laughable, there have been what 6 pitchers used this inning but he didn’t have one up before the start of the 6th?

    • Betty Lizard says:

      This is why I don’t watch baseball “for now.”
      All I can hope is that Alex Rodriquez’ hand injury somehow give him miracle powers ….

      Help us, Obi-Wan Rodriquez.

  351. Hoss says:

    Hey Joe, Call Cashman to activate yourself and throw a few batting practice fastballs. This is an example of how mangers can lose ballgames, so finish it off.

  352. The Troll says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ANOTHER PITCHER!!!!!!!!! This is devastatingly hilarious.

  353. Matt says:

    Girardi is just an idiot. Period. It is nearly impossible to think otherwise at this point.

    Mixing and matching does not work unless you have 5 or 6 good arms in the pen. Girardi has 2, maybe 3 if you count Logan. One of those 3, 1 is not available today, and the other 2 he refuses to use when behind. So that leaves a grand total of ZERO good arms available in the bullpen.

    If you were going to mix and match, the only time that it would have even mattered was the 6th inning when you had a lead and could have gone to Robertson and Soriano. Once you are behind 2+ runs vs their bullpen, it’s over.

  354. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Not sure if Cory Wade…or Tom Morello.

  355. Karl Krawfid says:

    Now Cano has given up.

  356. Chilango says:

    Hey how bout that payroll differential.

  357. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Hey look – better than Lowe and Joba. Shocking.

  358. EDDARD says:

    Despite not having the normal 4-5-6 hitters, this game could have been had with good managing. Joe could have maintained the lead or at very worst kept it 3-3 by having a quicker hook with Phil. Alex better be back tomorrow, Teixera in Baltimore and Granderson sometime in between or this 2 game lead is a 2 game deficit this time next week.

  359. Mike N says:

    That may have been the most depressing inning of any game this season.

  360. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    I think it’s kind of hard to kill Girardi for overmanaging this inning. Neither Joba, Lowe, or Logan really made a strong case for staying in the game with runners in scoring position.

    • Mike N says:

      A comeback win would really lift my spirits!!

    • What kills me though is the over managing after under managing earlier in the game. I like Hughes, but his pitches were starting to get up in the zone a little bit in the 5th, and he walked a guy after going 3-0 to lead off the 6th, but yet the bullpen didn’t get going till after two more hits. That’s just poor managing. Then to do what he did this past inning made it even more unbelievable.

      • AaronGuielWithASmile says:

        I agree, he should’ve given Hughes a quicker hook. But just because he stuck with Hughes for too long doesn’t mean that he should’ve stuck with Joba/Thomas/Lowe/Logan as well.

    • Matt says:

      Robertson? Soriano? Girardi has options, he’s just too stubborn to use them in spots that will decide the game because it’s not “their role.”

    • Tom says:

      Girardi with a final thumb in the eye…

  361. The way this game is going I’m calling a 12 pitch 1-2-3 inning.

  362. Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW) says:

    Everyone is jumping on Girardi because Axisa does on Twitter. Everyone’s lining up to be teacher’s pet.

    • Axisa has a twitter? You have a twitter? Jesus how many people have one of those things?

    • Jimmy Is Key To David's Cone says:

      Wrong – I have hated Girardi since 2009, when I started watching Yankees baseball again. I don’t like MLB managers generally, I think they overmanage and severely handcuff themselves by adhering to conventional wisdom re: closers, setup men, bunts, hustle, etc. Girardi is a particularly egregious example. Being an egregious example of an overmanager does not mean you cannot win — see both sides of last year’s World Series. It just means you may lose a few extra games and that you’re really frustrating to watch.

  363. The Troll says:

    So when do the Yankees wake up? Or . . . DO they wake up at all?

  364. Big Member says:

    C-Dick better get the start tomorrow or else some heads are gonna roll..

  365. RetroRob says:

    Bah to this game!

  366. Mike N says:

    Comeback win, please!

  367. EDDARD says:

    Meredith is now reporting that Ichiro will be used as a left handed reliever next inning so Joe can mix and match one last time.

  368. Effthisnoise says:

    This could of been such a deflating game to baltimore, the yanks winning after being so shorthanded. Now this gives baltimore their swagger back and the yanks limp into tropicana playing scared again.

  369. Mick taylor says:

    The problem with girardi among other things iOS he gaveaway too many games when he thought the big lead would hold up by resting players too much. He had that mindset today. If the yanks had lost Saturday he would have yanked Hughes when he should have, after he walked mccouth. Instead he yanks him immediately after the home run and then uses his entire bullpen.

  370. The Troll says:

    Stuart A’s theories holding true. Cano hits without men on . . .

  371. Matt says:

    The 8th inning was going to decide the game. Yet, Girardi did not even have the slightest thought of using his best relief pitcher in David Robertson, despite the fact that he threw all of about 10 pitches yesterday and had not pitched in a few days before that.

    Clearly this game doesn’t matter. It’s not like they are playing the next closest team in the division race in September. Oh wait…

    Girardi does not have many options, but he refuses to take advantage of even the few ones he has. Earth to Clueless Joe. When your bullpen is 2 deep, you can’t have those 2 pitchers in strict roles.

    • Chilango says:

      But the binder says don’t use Robbie without a lead.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

      I would argue if the bullpen is only 2 deep, it’s even more important to make sure they are available in games they have a better chance to win. This team, against the good part of the Oriole bullpen, in the 8th inning down 2 has very little chance to actually win.

      • Matt says:

        Then why was Girardi mixing and managing like he thought he still had a chance to win? If he thought it was over, he would have left Joba in to get clobbered.

        His moves are total contradictions. How can you not see this?

        • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

          There is a wide gap between giving up the game and using your best reliever. Girardi made horrible moves, but you can try to give your team a chance to win without managing like its the playoffs.

  372. EDDARD says:

    Girardi has used 8 pitchers in this game. He used 6 of those pitchers to get 5 outs…

  373. Girardi:”USE ALL THE BULLPEN ARMS!!!!!! ESPECIALLY IN MATCHUP SITUATIONS!!!!!!!!! but no…not with the bats unless the tying run is at the plate or on base.”

  374. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    I’m really glad Raul got 3 PA’s against LHP today. Glad they kept him in the game for his defensive value.

    • Tom says:

      Raul shouldn’t have even been in the starting lineup.

      Girardi just can’t figure out the concept of reverse splits for some pitchers; from there he just started compounding the mistakes.

  375. Mike N says:


  376. Tom says:

    Girardi with a final thumb in the eye…

  377. The Troll says:

    Well, at least Greg went to bed. Small victories . . .

  378. Matt says:

    They couldn’t even take a series from Toronto at home, and now they are about to lose one to an actual contender in Baltimore. Injuries are not an excuse, because every team has had them.

    Tampa lost Longoria and Joyce at the same time. Baltimore is missing one of their top starters in Hammel, has had to send down their opening day starter in Arrieta, and Brian Roberts is out. Boston at one point was missing Ellsbury, Pedroia, and Ortiz. What excuse does this pathetic bunch of losers have? .500 baseball in the second half, and that includes large stretches of having Teixeira or Teixeira and A-Rod in the lineup.

    • Tampa Bay was under .500 while Longoria was gone, Baltimore didn’t plan to have Roberts all season anyway, and how to the Redsox factor into this, they are so far our of first their record has no bearing on us. Also one allstar in Longo doesn’t equal half the shit the Yankees have had to deal with. Saying “fuck the injuries” is just a way to say no, this has to be be SOMEONE’S FAULT!!! My selfish mind needs to put the blame on a person.

      • Matt says:

        The Yankees were playing .500 baseball even with Chavez more than making up for everyone’s absence. It is NOT the injuries with this team.

        You win and lose as an entire team. The Red Sox are so far out because their starting pitching is terrible, not because of injuries to their offense. The Rays played .500 ball because guys like James Shields and Matt Moore were underachieving big time earlier in the season. The Orioles have picked up the slack because other pitchers, especially in the bullpen, have stepped up.

        On this Yankees roster, other than Jeter, Kuroda, and Soriano, pretty much nobody has stepped up when players went down. Nearly every player on this team is having a down year except those three and maybe Hughes and Robertson.

  379. The Troll says:

    Game recap for tonight:

    Yankees Suck.

    (That’s it. That’s all you have to say.)

  380. Hoss says:

    And today’s Empire State Yankee players of the game:

    1. Chris Dickerson: 2-run HR to put the Yanks in the lead, scored 3rd run after walking, several great plays in the field. Removed for pinch hitter who popped up.

    2. Justin Thomas: Retired only batter he faced. Removed for pitcher who gave up walk, hit and responsible for 2 runs scored.

    3. Cory Wade: Retired all of the batters he faced.

    Without these guys, what would the score be, Joe?

  381. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Ichiro is awesome.

  382. Mike N says:

    Adding insult to injury…

  383. Tom says:

    A fitting final (?) batter…

  384. Mike N says:

    Gotta staunch the bleeding!

  385. Bullshit. Terrible game all the way around.

  386. Effthisnoise says:

    Thanks so much Joe. Now go to your post game and bullshit

  387. Hoss says:

    Neither Lowe nor Chamberlain should play unless the team is up or down more than 7 runs.

  388. Jose M. Vazquez says:

    It’s good to see Cory Wade back. That is the only bright spot that we can take from this game and of course Dickerson. We used to criticize Cervelli for being an out but Martin takes the award. He can’t even compare to Rick Cerone much less Thurman Munson. I hope to see Cervelli in there the next few days to see what he can do.

  389. Chilango says:

    Look at it this way: We could have easily dropped yesterday’s game too and be tied for 1st going to TB. I’d say with the way they have been playing (since the ASB), they’re lucky to get out with a lead. Better figure this shit out soon.

  390. Mick taylor says:

    Andruw jones fans unite behind our 199 power hitter who has hit 136 since the all star break and who has never gotten a hit to win a game. Of course Brian crashman was able to give away Aj Burnett so we could use the money to sign this useless piece. I wonder what George Steinbrenner would think about how Hank is running this team.

  391. Hoss says:

    Post-game interview: Joe doesn’t take any blame for bad decisions. he is a lousy manager. His logic is ridiculous: One out, make change, none out leave Hughes in? Sorry, but this team is toast. Not because of result, but because it has no creativity, leadership.

  392. The Real Greg says:

    So what did Joe say about it?

  393. Matt says:

    The bottom line is that guys like Cano and Granderson have not stepped up in the absence of key players. Jeter and Swisher have done so, but there is nobody to drive them in except themselves.

    They have more than enough players on this roster who are capable of producing enough offense to win them games. The bullpen isn’t very deep, but hopefully Phelps will be back there once Nova returns, and another starter once Pettitte returns.

    They just have to tread water until these guys get back, but they aren’t even doing that. The injuries are not an excuse when you are 4-8 in your last 12 games, in which half of them you were only missing 1 key player.

  394. dkidd says:

    silver lining: special holiday edition fan confidence poll tomorrow

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