Sunday Night Open Thread

Teixeira expected back tomorrow, no other call-ups coming
Yankees mount late comeback against Blue Jays, remain tied atop AL East
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You can’t say enough about that win this afternoon. The Yankees came out of the gate looking lifeless, but some (as in multiple) late-inning rallies resulted in the biggest and most important win of the season. It’s worth noting that the Yankees are now guaranteed to play no fewer than 163 games this year. Even if everything breaks wrong this week, worst case scenario is that they’re playing the Angels in a tie-breaker game to decide the second wildcard spot. Obviously no one wants it to come to that, but at least we know the season can’t come to an end on Wednesday.

Anyway, here is your open thread for the night. There is no ESPN Sunday Night Game, but the Angels and Rangers are playing Game Two of their doubleheader at 7pm ET (Santana vs. Holland). That game isn’t on national television (as far as I know it’s on MLB Network), but it is worth following because the an Angels loss clinches a playoff spot for the Yankees. An Angels win moves the Yankees (and Orioles) in a tie with Texas for the best record in the AL. The late NFL game is the Bears and Cowboys Giants and Eagles. Talk about those games or anything else here, except for politics of course. Thanks in advance.

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Teixeira expected back tomorrow, no other call-ups coming
Yankees mount late comeback against Blue Jays, remain tied atop AL East
  • Mike Myers

    Im so happy everyone knew they would make the big comeback today. No one said anything negative about the players or coaches. not a peep. everyone was totally optimistic about them making a come back. totally.

    • DERP

      Yea, it was really sad how everyone wrote the game off after like two innings.

    • Anthony

      When a guy like Henderson Alvarez goes 6 innings and 2 ER against the Yankees lineup in an important game (which they all are important nowadays), wanting the players to do more isn’t unreasonable. Thrashing the management is another story.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Aren’t you special.

  • Joe R

    Damn. What a choke job by USA. Still had a chance before Stricker blew it in the end as well. Ugh.

    • Pat D

      Yep. Should the Yankees not win the division, I’d still rate today’s choke as worse.

  • Winter

    So I assume we root for Texas tonight in order to clinch the playoff spot. But Texas plays Oakland in the final series. What do we want to happen there?

    • Pat D

      Oakland all the way. No LA or Tampa in the playoffs.

      • Joe F

        How about Yankees AL East Division Champs!

        Forget the rest!

        • Pat D

          One does not mean the other can’t happen.

    • Tom

      I’m rooting for Oakland win + Texas loss = Oakland 1 game back (and Yankees tie for the best record)

      Oakland wins 2 out of 3 against Texas in Oakland = tie for AL West. Tie breaker game burns pitchers, WC game for the loser burns another pitcher and if the Yankees do win the division they may face a depleted team.

      If they end up with the WC they still get a team coming out of a tiebreaker game.

  • DERP

    I think we should leave Teixeira in Florida for the next few days so he can help the Rays.

  • Joe F

    Why is everyone on RAB named Joe now?

    • jjyank

      It’s a pretty common name.

    • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW)

      They’re probably stalking you.

    • Joe

      I haven’t noticed it, you might be paranoid

    • Jersey Joe

      my middle name

  • DERP

    Robinson Cano is playing pretty well lately IMHO.

  • Joe F

    Hey guys do you mind if I link my first post at YGY here?

    http://yanksgoyard.com/2012/09.....asons-end/

    • http://needanewnamegivesuggestions.tumblr.com/ Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      BOO SELF PROMOTION!!!

      Lol, in all serious dude, link it into your name too!!

      • Joe F

        My name? Not until I turn 18. Just my personal rule.

        • http://needanewnamegivesuggestions.tumblr.com/ Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          Huh? I’m saying make it so that your handle (Joe F) is a link to your article. Like I do w/ my blog, and others do w/ their websites.

          • http://yanksgoyard.com/ Joe F

            Did it work?

            • Cris Pengiucci

              Yes it did. (Time to go back and read the article now.) :-)

              • Joe F

                Thanks Cris.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  Just read it. Bravo, Joe. Great job. I don’t think I could have done a quarter of the job you did there, even if I disagree on your conclusion.

                  • Joe F

                    Thanks Robinson. My opinion really is just based off the money situation. I believe we can spend our money on pitching rather than Swisher or another high priced outfielder.

                    Instead we can use cheap options who can fill the role and hopefully by then the farm guys pan out. If not we search some more.

    • jjyank

      Haven’t read it yet, but by all means. It’s an open thread, post what you want.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      fyi, Quentin signed a 3-year extension with the Padres

      • Joe F

        Gonna edit that. Thanks. Trade Rumors didn’t update.

    • OMG! Bagels!

      good piece on Ichiro. You can tell he’s savoring his time here and he deserves to.

  • Rey22

    Man, Baltimore must be thinking “what the hell do we have to do to take sole spot of first place.” Seems they’ve been on the very edge of doing it several times this month and every time the Yankees pull off a pretty big comeback.

    Tampa better do some damage this week and the Yanks better show up to destroy the hapless Red Sox.

    • Anthony

      Even with all the complaining I (and mostly everyone) does, we’ve always been on the better end of this. We were either tied or a game ahead. It must be incredibly frustrating for O’s fans, keep tying for first but never taking it.

  • Bob Buttons the Cat

    If we tie Baltimore at the end of the season, which team wins the division? I remember seeing the rules somewhere but I cannot remember where.

    • Mike N

      One-game playoff determines the division.

    • DERP

      One game tiebreaker. Homefield for that game is normally determined by head to head record, but since we split the season series, then record against the AL East is used. Baltimore would host since they have a better division record.

  • Mike N

    Cano’s push bunt in the face of the shift was my favorite AB today.

    • http://needanewnamegivesuggestions.tumblr.com/ Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Of the season! I jest, but it was pretty awesome.

      • Mike N

        They should make it clear that they’re ready and able to do this regularly. This will force other teams to adjust their shift.

        • jim p

          Did Tex try it this year? In spring he said he might, but I don’t recall he did.

  • http://needanewnamegivesuggestions.tumblr.com/ Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Anybody watching New Orleans @ Green Bay? What an unfortinate turn of events for Green Bay.

    • Mike N

      I just turned to it and see the score. What happened?

      • http://needanewnamegivesuggestions.tumblr.com/ Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        Green Bay was driving, and when they were just outside the red zone a defender basically ripped out Rodger’s eye on a facemask penatly. He had to leave the game because of the rule that if there is an injury time out the injured player has to sit at least one play. On that one play the back up quarter back tripped and dropped the ball on a hand off. Saints recovered and on two plays later the Saints scored on a huge 80 yards pass play.

        To make matters even worse on the next possession Rodgers threw a pick.

        • Mike N

          Oy!

    • Joe F

      That’s just funny to me. As a this generation Cowboys fan everyone’s misfortune is hilarious.

      • http://needanewnamegivesuggestions.tumblr.com/ Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        As a Cowboy’s fan, who are you rooting for tonight?

        • Joe F

          A meteor.

          But really, Giants fans around here get annoying, but the Eagles are my most hated team. So probably Giants.

          • http://needanewnamegivesuggestions.tumblr.com/ Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            Haha, A meteor? Nice. I usually go with Skynet, but a meteor would work too =P

            • http://yanksgoyard.com/ Joe F

              haha.

              Hey you know how to do better on the SAT in the reading section? My grammar get messed up a lot. That’s holding me back from RU.

              • http://needanewnamegivesuggestions.tumblr.com/ Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                Sorry dude, it’s been years since I took the SATs. Honestly, I was really stupid when I was your age, I only took the SATs once and with a brutal hangover. If it’s your grammar though, just practice. Keep writing, have somebody you know/trust as an editor look it over for mistakes.

                • http://yanksgoyard.com/ Joe F

                  Gotcha. I’m really looking for SAT grammar. The editor looks over the blog. haha.

                  • http://needanewnamegivesuggestions.tumblr.com/ Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                    When I say editor, I mean anybody that wouldn’t mind checking your writings for grammar usage, parent, teacher, anyone.

                    • Joe F

                      Oh okay yea. SAT book too.

                    • jjyank

                      Joe, I may be just an RAB commenter to most here, but writing is my strongest academic area. If you want some advice on a particular writing sample, let me know. I actually enjoy editing.

                    • Joe F

                      JJ when I finish my college essays you want to take a look?

                    • jjyank

                      Absolutely. Let me know when, and I’ll post my email.

                    • Joe F

                      Thanks man. I appreciate it.

                    • jjyank

                      No problem. I generally hate when people throw their resumes around, but I do have a Masters degree in a field that pretty much required me to write a lot. I edit my brother’s papers in college now, I would be happy to take a few minutes and do the same for you. Like I said, I enjoy it anyway.

                    • Joe F

                      Yea I have 3 essays. Two for the common app and one for Rutgers alone.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      Remember, Greg has a masters degree. :)

                      (As do I, but it’s much funnier to make fun of Greg’s citing it on here once.)

                    • jjyank

                      @R-Tils, that’s because Greg used it to try to win a baseball argument. Like in last night’s recap thread, Dan In Atlanta tried to use his Law degree to proclaim that he had any idea what he was talking about with Joba.

                      The one time I’m using it is to..well, actually use it.

                    • Joe F

                      JOBA BLAH BLAH BLAH I HAVE A LAW DEGREE!

  • DERP

    Joe Nathan is a top notch human being. Just wanted to throw that out there.

    • Mike N

      In what regard?

    • http://needanewnamegivesuggestions.tumblr.com/ Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      I feel weird asking why, because it kind of feels like a shot at his character, but what was the driving reason for this post?

      • DERP

        I was just talking about how it was awesome how he blew the game and didn’t allow the Orioles to celebrate in front of their fans.

        Reading it again, I could see how it sounds like I am taking a shot at him.

        • http://needanewnamegivesuggestions.tumblr.com/ Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          No, I thought like he did some stand up thing, and I felt bad asking why you thought he was a stand up guy.

  • Hall and Nokes

    Is it crazy to suggest that OAK-SEA has huge implications for the AL East race?

  • Hall and Nokes

    Is it crazy to suggest that OAK-SEA has huge implications for the AL East race?

    • Hall and Nokes

      Well is it?

    • Hall and Nokes

      Well is it?

      • Hall and Nokes

        Alright, I’m out.

        • Mike N

          You need to work on your patience!

      • CUYanks

        Well, in the sense that the more games the Rays are alive, the better the chances are they take games off of Baltimore. Also, with a win, Oak guarantees it could sweep its way to the AL West title. This would certainly affect matchups.

        • Hall and Nokes

          Yeah I’d rather have the Rays caring about two games, which is the most we can ask for at this point.

    • Tom

      Huge.

      An Angels win tonight and the AL West is suddenly a 1 game lead and could easily end in a tie (if OAK takes 2 out of 3 in Oakland)

      Tie breaker games are good things if the Yankees are not in them. This could help them both if they win the division or if they don’t.

      I know I’m in the minority, but screw the Rays, they will play BALT hard regardless.

  • http://yanksgoyard.com/ Joe F

    Test.

    • DERP

      I noticed you were a senior in HS. Any idea where you are going to school next year?

      • http://yanksgoyard.com/ Joe F

        Rutgers, SUNY Fredonia, or The College of Saint Rose are my top choices.

        • jjyank

          You’ll have a blast, my friend. I wish I could do it all over again.

          • Joe F

            I hope so! I will though. haha.

        • DERP

          Cool. Best of luck with the process.

          • Joe F

            Thanks bro.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I would have laughed my butt if you had listed where my wife teaches and, no, I’m not saying where on here.

          • Joe F

            Haha I probably wouldn’t get her anyway.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Any idea on your major?

              • Joe F

                Sports management while minoring in journalism. Hopefully sports journalism.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    So is Derek Holland still better than CC?

    • DERP

      I was just going to reference the Holland/CC quote. Nice job.

  • CUYanks

    The saddest thing for me about the Rays is that they couldn’t wait one more day to throw David Price. Also, if the Red Sox could have taken just 1 game from the O’s, the Rays could sweep and it would mean something.

    • http://needanewnamegivesuggestions.tumblr.com/ Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      I just heard today that the Sox reworked their rotation so they can throw both Lester(meh w/e) and Buckholz(kind of dick) at us this series.

      • CUYanks

        They play the role of sore 20+game-back losers extremely well.

      • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com Mike E

        The A lineup ain’t very good, but they threw out their Z lineup this weekend. They made it pretty clear that they want the opportunity to play spoiler against the Yankees instead of the Orioles.

        Considering what happened last year, I find Valentine’s logic ridiculously personal. If the team wanted to seek some sort of redemption for last year’s collapse, which arguably ran into this season, they’d have tried to spoil it this year for the Orioles.

        However, now the Red Sox have the opportunity to spoil the Yankees, which could save Valentine in the eyes of the fans. In my opinion, the organization and the players would rather spoil the Orioles, but the fans and the media would rather spoil the Yankees. Valentine is playing to the fans and the national media now, probably in an attempt to stay relevant when he gets fired this season.

        • toad

          Valentine is done, no matter what happens against the Yankees.

          Hiring him was an owner’s blunder, not, frankly, unlike some of George Steinbrenner’s decisions.

          He’s gone by the end of October.

  • The Next Guy

    Can someone point me to where I can find the stats for production at a particular position on a team? I’d be interested to know what the Yankees got out of each position considering all the platoons and time split at different positions (i.e. 3B, LF). Thanks in advance.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting
      • The Next Guy

        Thanks so much!

      • Anthony

        When it says sOPS+, is the comparison to the rest of the league at that one position?

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          Yes.

          • Anthony

            thanks!

  • mrdbag

    Boy are the rangers getting worked they are on the verge of choking. I gotta say the angels are on a roll

    • Hall and Nokes

      It’s a little crazy that the Rangers haven’t clinched yet. Reminds me of how the Yanks dicked around in September last year.

  • mrdbag

    Does anyone think the Yankees reached out to billy beane in the. Past

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Pitcher’s duel going on in Texas. Yikes.

  • CUYanks

    Who are we rooting for in this game?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Angels. Make Texas sweat out the last few games.

      • Tom

        +1

        Mentioned this up above: If the Angels win, Oakland taking 2 out of 3 in Oakland (against TEX) means a tie for the AL West and a tie breaker game.

        This is good for the Yankees if they win the division or if they end up as a WC.

    • Get Phelps Up

      I’m rooting for the Angels. The Yankees can clinch a playoff spot by winning tomorrow and I really want to see the A’s force a tie breaker or win the AL West. The only downside is it means that the Yankees would be tied for the #1 seed.

      • CUYanks

        No concern about the possibility of LAA sweeping and NYY getting swept in the final series?

        • Get Phelps Up

          The Yankees definitely aren’t going to get swept by the Red Sox and the Angels are facing Felix tomorrow so I would be surprised if they sweep even though they are playing Seattle.

  • Tom Q

    So, seeing the Orioles watching the Angels/Rangers on the scoreboard, it struck me…I just can’t see the Yankees doing that. For the Yanks, given how the season’s gone, winning the wild card is semi-losing. I think it’s division-or-bust, in terms of any clubhouse celebration (prior to post-season).

    A grudging kind word about the Orioles: for their fans, it has to be pretty amazing to see them essentially guaranteed a playoff spot, after being so useless for so long. Honestly, if they were an analogous team, but one not fighting my team (or managed by a guy who annoys the crap out of me) — say, the Phillies vis vis the pre-’12 Nationals, or the Pirates chasing the Cardinals — I’d probaby be enjoying the hell out of them.

    This, even while being aware that their success is hugely a matter of luck, luck continuing right to the end (yesterday, with them moving to a tie on a 1-run win while the Yanks endured a 1-run loss, was the season in miniature). Alot of sabremetrics folk have been dismissive of the team because of this, and, certainly, if O’s fans are thinking they’re going to come right back and do the same next year, stats suggest that’s not going to be a simple matter. But we have to be careful not to slip from saying the numbers tell us the O’s have been lucky into viewing what they’ve achieved as illegiimate. Sabremetrics can help us understand why things happen, but they don’t dictate what happens. If the O’s go far in the playoffs — even right to the top — the fact that they weren’t real impressive on paper won’t much matter to anyone.

    • TomH

      If the O’s go all the way, “even right to the top,” I would say we have re-evaluate the “on paper” judgments we’ve made of them all year. This run of theirs looks less and less like some sort of fluke. Moreover, if those wounded Jays’ players all return next year, then that team–by all accounts well stocked in the minors–will join the O’s as a major power. There was a lot of (justified) sneering at the Jays this week, but that’s a very different team with Bautista in the lineup and with all those wounded pitchers back in harness.

      2012 has been a warning shot across the Yankee bow: youth will be served old timers.

      Cash et al. better get to work rejuvenating this team. Everybody’s happy they won today. But they played 7 against two bottom-stuck teams and managed to win only 4. And this during a blistering hot pennant race, with time running out.

      • Rainbow connection

        Nope. The O’s are the worst team ever and it’s all luck. Only teams that spend $200 million have a right to win.

  • CUYanks

    Maybe we should root for the Orioles to clinch, so they can have a big celebration and not be ready for the Rays tomorrow.

  • CUYanks

    Also, shout out to Mike Scioscia for leaving in an eminently combustible Ervin Santana in a must-win game.

    • Tom

      Well it’s not like Santana’s sucked this year, he’s earned the chance to work out of a jam. ;-) In all seriousness, he has pitched a lot better of late, but you’d think with the Angels season on the line he’d have a bit less patience.

      My hope is the Angels fire him and the Red Sox snap him up.

      I have no idea how the guy still seems to have one of the better reputations in the game by a lot of the media.

    • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

      Scosciaball.

  • Joe F

    Did Osi notion 4 Super Bowls and none for the Eagles to a section of fans? If so, that’s awesome.

  • Joe F

    Who’s watching the game in a few minutes?

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Well, it sure looks like the Jets were perfectly built to win the battle of the back page every week.

  • Joe F

    Eli’s feeling the pressure.

  • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

    Alberto Callaspo just looks at three strikes. Bravo.

  • Nick

    how do you even leave Holland in there that long?

  • Pat D

    Every Giants-Eagles game feels like a Yankees-Red Sox game now. I just hate the Eagles so much and wish horrible, disfiguring injuries on so many of their players that I can’t take any enjoyment in the game.

    Particularly when, as usual, the Giants can’t do anything against them. Can’t run the ball, can’t pass protect, can’t sack the quarterback, can’t force turnovers. You know, the things that the Browns, Ravens and Cardinals were all able to fucking do!

    • Hall and Nokes

      That’s close to my take. The Giants owe me nothing at this point. I’m more upset that the Eagles are winning than that the Giants are losing right now.

  • Pat D

    One of these days the Giants will figure out how to beat the Eagles.

    One day……someday.