Sunday Night Open Thread



You can’t say enough about that win this afternoon. The Yankees came out of the gate looking lifeless, but some (as in multiple) late-inning rallies resulted in the biggest and most important win of the season. It’s worth noting that the Yankees are now guaranteed to play no fewer than 163 games this year. Even if everything breaks wrong this week, worst case scenario is that they’re playing the Angels in a tie-breaker game to decide the second wildcard spot. Obviously no one wants it to come to that, but at least we know the season can’t come to an end on Wednesday.

Anyway, here is your open thread for the night. There is no ESPN Sunday Night Game, but the Angels and Rangers are playing Game Two of their doubleheader at 7pm ET (Santana vs. Holland). That game isn’t on national television (as far as I know it’s on MLB Network), but it is worth following because the an Angels loss clinches a playoff spot for the Yankees. An Angels win moves the Yankees (and Orioles) in a tie with Texas for the best record in the AL. The late NFL game is the Bears and Cowboys Giants and Eagles. Talk about those games or anything else here, except for politics of course. Thanks in advance.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. Mike Myers says:

    Im so happy everyone knew they would make the big comeback today. No one said anything negative about the players or coaches. not a peep. everyone was totally optimistic about them making a come back. totally.

  2. Joe R says:

    Damn. What a choke job by USA. Still had a chance before Stricker blew it in the end as well. Ugh.

  3. Winter says:

    So I assume we root for Texas tonight in order to clinch the playoff spot. But Texas plays Oakland in the final series. What do we want to happen there?

    • Pat D says:

      Oakland all the way. No LA or Tampa in the playoffs.

    • Tom says:

      I’m rooting for Oakland win + Texas loss = Oakland 1 game back (and Yankees tie for the best record)

      Oakland wins 2 out of 3 against Texas in Oakland = tie for AL West. Tie breaker game burns pitchers, WC game for the loser burns another pitcher and if the Yankees do win the division they may face a depleted team.

      If they end up with the WC they still get a team coming out of a tiebreaker game.

  4. DERP says:

    I think we should leave Teixeira in Florida for the next few days so he can help the Rays.

  5. Joe F says:

    Why is everyone on RAB named Joe now?

  6. DERP says:

    Robinson Cano is playing pretty well lately IMHO.

  7. Joe F says:

    Hey guys do you mind if I link my first post at YGY here?

  8. Rey22 says:

    Man, Baltimore must be thinking “what the hell do we have to do to take sole spot of first place.” Seems they’ve been on the very edge of doing it several times this month and every time the Yankees pull off a pretty big comeback.

    Tampa better do some damage this week and the Yanks better show up to destroy the hapless Red Sox.

    • Anthony says:

      Even with all the complaining I (and mostly everyone) does, we’ve always been on the better end of this. We were either tied or a game ahead. It must be incredibly frustrating for O’s fans, keep tying for first but never taking it.

  9. Bob Buttons the Cat says:

    If we tie Baltimore at the end of the season, which team wins the division? I remember seeing the rules somewhere but I cannot remember where.

    • Mike N says:

      One-game playoff determines the division.

    • DERP says:

      One game tiebreaker. Homefield for that game is normally determined by head to head record, but since we split the season series, then record against the AL East is used. Baltimore would host since they have a better division record.

  10. Mike N says:

    Cano’s push bunt in the face of the shift was my favorite AB today.

  11. Anybody watching New Orleans @ Green Bay? What an unfortinate turn of events for Green Bay.

  12. DERP says:

    Joe Nathan is a top notch human being. Just wanted to throw that out there.

  13. Hall and Nokes says:

    Is it crazy to suggest that OAK-SEA has huge implications for the AL East race?

  14. Hall and Nokes says:

    Is it crazy to suggest that OAK-SEA has huge implications for the AL East race?

  15. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    So is Derek Holland still better than CC?

  16. CUYanks says:

    The saddest thing for me about the Rays is that they couldn’t wait one more day to throw David Price. Also, if the Red Sox could have taken just 1 game from the O’s, the Rays could sweep and it would mean something.

    • I just heard today that the Sox reworked their rotation so they can throw both Lester(meh w/e) and Buckholz(kind of dick) at us this series.

      • CUYanks says:

        They play the role of sore 20+game-back losers extremely well.

      • Mike E says:

        The A lineup ain’t very good, but they threw out their Z lineup this weekend. They made it pretty clear that they want the opportunity to play spoiler against the Yankees instead of the Orioles.

        Considering what happened last year, I find Valentine’s logic ridiculously personal. If the team wanted to seek some sort of redemption for last year’s collapse, which arguably ran into this season, they’d have tried to spoil it this year for the Orioles.

        However, now the Red Sox have the opportunity to spoil the Yankees, which could save Valentine in the eyes of the fans. In my opinion, the organization and the players would rather spoil the Orioles, but the fans and the media would rather spoil the Yankees. Valentine is playing to the fans and the national media now, probably in an attempt to stay relevant when he gets fired this season.

        • toad says:

          Valentine is done, no matter what happens against the Yankees.

          Hiring him was an owner’s blunder, not, frankly, unlike some of George Steinbrenner’s decisions.

          He’s gone by the end of October.

  17. The Next Guy says:

    Can someone point me to where I can find the stats for production at a particular position on a team? I’d be interested to know what the Yankees got out of each position considering all the platoons and time split at different positions (i.e. 3B, LF). Thanks in advance.

  18. mrdbag says:

    Boy are the rangers getting worked they are on the verge of choking. I gotta say the angels are on a roll

    • Hall and Nokes says:

      It’s a little crazy that the Rangers haven’t clinched yet. Reminds me of how the Yanks dicked around in September last year.

  19. mrdbag says:

    Does anyone think the Yankees reached out to billy beane in the. Past

  20. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Pitcher’s duel going on in Texas. Yikes.

  21. CUYanks says:

    Who are we rooting for in this game?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

      Angels. Make Texas sweat out the last few games.

      • Tom says:


        Mentioned this up above: If the Angels win, Oakland taking 2 out of 3 in Oakland (against TEX) means a tie for the AL West and a tie breaker game.

        This is good for the Yankees if they win the division or if they end up as a WC.

    • Get Phelps Up says:

      I’m rooting for the Angels. The Yankees can clinch a playoff spot by winning tomorrow and I really want to see the A’s force a tie breaker or win the AL West. The only downside is it means that the Yankees would be tied for the #1 seed.

      • CUYanks says:

        No concern about the possibility of LAA sweeping and NYY getting swept in the final series?

        • Get Phelps Up says:

          The Yankees definitely aren’t going to get swept by the Red Sox and the Angels are facing Felix tomorrow so I would be surprised if they sweep even though they are playing Seattle.

  22. Tom Q says:

    So, seeing the Orioles watching the Angels/Rangers on the scoreboard, it struck me…I just can’t see the Yankees doing that. For the Yanks, given how the season’s gone, winning the wild card is semi-losing. I think it’s division-or-bust, in terms of any clubhouse celebration (prior to post-season).

    A grudging kind word about the Orioles: for their fans, it has to be pretty amazing to see them essentially guaranteed a playoff spot, after being so useless for so long. Honestly, if they were an analogous team, but one not fighting my team (or managed by a guy who annoys the crap out of me) — say, the Phillies vis vis the pre-’12 Nationals, or the Pirates chasing the Cardinals — I’d probaby be enjoying the hell out of them.

    This, even while being aware that their success is hugely a matter of luck, luck continuing right to the end (yesterday, with them moving to a tie on a 1-run win while the Yanks endured a 1-run loss, was the season in miniature). Alot of sabremetrics folk have been dismissive of the team because of this, and, certainly, if O’s fans are thinking they’re going to come right back and do the same next year, stats suggest that’s not going to be a simple matter. But we have to be careful not to slip from saying the numbers tell us the O’s have been lucky into viewing what they’ve achieved as illegiimate. Sabremetrics can help us understand why things happen, but they don’t dictate what happens. If the O’s go far in the playoffs — even right to the top — the fact that they weren’t real impressive on paper won’t much matter to anyone.

    • TomH says:

      If the O’s go all the way, “even right to the top,” I would say we have re-evaluate the “on paper” judgments we’ve made of them all year. This run of theirs looks less and less like some sort of fluke. Moreover, if those wounded Jays’ players all return next year, then that team–by all accounts well stocked in the minors–will join the O’s as a major power. There was a lot of (justified) sneering at the Jays this week, but that’s a very different team with Bautista in the lineup and with all those wounded pitchers back in harness.

      2012 has been a warning shot across the Yankee bow: youth will be served old timers.

      Cash et al. better get to work rejuvenating this team. Everybody’s happy they won today. But they played 7 against two bottom-stuck teams and managed to win only 4. And this during a blistering hot pennant race, with time running out.

      • Rainbow connection says:

        Nope. The O’s are the worst team ever and it’s all luck. Only teams that spend $200 million have a right to win.

  23. CUYanks says:

    Maybe we should root for the Orioles to clinch, so they can have a big celebration and not be ready for the Rays tomorrow.

  24. CUYanks says:

    Also, shout out to Mike Scioscia for leaving in an eminently combustible Ervin Santana in a must-win game.

    • Tom says:

      Well it’s not like Santana’s sucked this year, he’s earned the chance to work out of a jam. ;-) In all seriousness, he has pitched a lot better of late, but you’d think with the Angels season on the line he’d have a bit less patience.

      My hope is the Angels fire him and the Red Sox snap him up.

      I have no idea how the guy still seems to have one of the better reputations in the game by a lot of the media.

  25. Joe F says:

    Did Osi notion 4 Super Bowls and none for the Eagles to a section of fans? If so, that’s awesome.

  26. Joe F says:

    Who’s watching the game in a few minutes?

  27. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Well, it sure looks like the Jets were perfectly built to win the battle of the back page every week.

  28. Joe F says:

    Eli’s feeling the pressure.

  29. Alberto Callaspo just looks at three strikes. Bravo.

  30. Nick says:

    how do you even leave Holland in there that long?

  31. Pat D says:

    Every Giants-Eagles game feels like a Yankees-Red Sox game now. I just hate the Eagles so much and wish horrible, disfiguring injuries on so many of their players that I can’t take any enjoyment in the game.

    Particularly when, as usual, the Giants can’t do anything against them. Can’t run the ball, can’t pass protect, can’t sack the quarterback, can’t force turnovers. You know, the things that the Browns, Ravens and Cardinals were all able to fucking do!

    • Hall and Nokes says:

      That’s close to my take. The Giants owe me nothing at this point. I’m more upset that the Eagles are winning than that the Giants are losing right now.

  32. Pat D says:

    One of these days the Giants will figure out how to beat the Eagles.

    One day……someday.

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