Tuesday Night Open Thread


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Well … Andy Pettitte‘s return will have to wait one more day. Such is life. The Yankees are now going to close out their season with 16 games in 15 days thanks to tonight’s rain out, which is unfortunate. Winning the AL East and securing a playoff spot wasn’t going to be easy anyway, but now it’s going to be just a tiny bit tougher.

Here is your open thread. The Mets were rained out as well, but MLB Network will air a game tonight. Who you see depends on where you live as well as the weather, which is creating problems all over the Northeast. Feel free to use this thread to talk about anything except politics. I know it’s election season and all that, but politics discussions are never pretty. Thanks in advance.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. Looks like Toronto is going to be w/o Yunel Escobar for the series:

    • jjyank says:

      Good. I would love to know exactly what the fuck ran through his mind to do that anyway.

    • Stratman9652 says:

      It is bad enough Escobar went out on the field wearing that, but shame on all the rest of the Spanish speaking members of the team for not speaking up either and saying “hey that’s not cool”.

      • Brian S. says:

        Different culture.

      • Well the manager said that he writes on his eye black almost every game, I had a team mate who did that in Babe Ruth League, and after about halfway through the season nobody paid any attention to what was written on there.

        • MannyGeee says:

          Thinking about getting some eye black for my Beer League and learning some homophobic sayings in many languages….

          BTW, Not sure if it’s been covered in RAB or not, but what Escobar wrote on his eye black translates to “you are a fa**ot”… Real classy guy

          • I think the article I posted says it, but yeah that is what it said.

          • Pat D says:

            I guess my second question to him, after “What the fuck were you thinking?” would be “Who were you directing that towards?”

            • Rich in NJ says:

              I’m not sure that thinking is characteristic of Escobar’s mental process.

            • RetroRob says:

              Pretty immature on his part.

              Perhaps it wasn’t even directed at gays, but he was using it as a derogatory term against everyone. He’s a tough guy and the competition are all fa**ots. Macho world of sports. Yet trying to rationalize biggoted statements just shows how stupid he is. How could he not know he was insulting a group of people? How could his teammates who understand what he wrote not say anything? Maybe he does change it reguarly and his teammates never bother to see what crazy Yunel wrote under his eyes today. Somehow I doubt it.

              Anyway, good MLB suspended him. Now if only they can search through video archives in the hopes of finding homophobic words on Edwin Encarcion’s face that would greatly help the Yankees the next few days.

          • YanksFanInBeantown says:

            Apparently “maricon” can also mean “p***y” which is inappropriate but nowhere near the level of the f-word

          • Josh says:

            I actually knew what it meant already, because it was my bus drivers favorite statement..Great Guy that man

      • FIPster Doofus says:

        It’s naive to think his teammates were even outraged by it; most of them probably laughed their asses off.

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          I’ll assume there were a variety of internal and external reactions.

          Toronto did the right thing. There’s no place for this shit in 2012.

    • Rainbow Pinstripes says:

      Kudos to the organization for stepping up and saying this was not okay. Three games seems like a fitting punishment for doing something so careless.

      If he wants to be a real class act, I dare him to put something about acceptance / equality on his eye black when he comes back. That would be awesome.

      • Dan Gold says:

        I am a gay man, and there is nothing funny at all about this incident . What is wrong with two men having loving relations?? I hope all of the commentators are open to free gay love ..

        • MannyGeee says:

          Well…. “open to free gay love” to it might be a little on the nose, but I think I can speak for my experience on this site in saying “This ain’t NoMaas, to each their own around these parts…”

  2. So, as of now, my account seems to have run into difficulty.

    Same thing happened last year when Sept. rolled around, and I only saw the Rays and nationally televised games after that. Only 16 games left this year. I better not have just been dealt another screwball.

  3. Tropic Thunder is seriously one of the funniest movies ever, and when you consider everything that it had going against it that’s saying something.

  4. jjyank says:

    Sorry for the political discussions, Mike. Didn’t mean to stir up trouble. Kinda hard to not have it on the brain when you spend 6 years studying political science and your place of employment has you staring at CNN for 8 hours a day.

    Won’t happen again.

  5. Anthony says:

    I was wondering why the called the game off… no rain in SI all day up until now, just some strong winds. Now its pouring. Don’t like it, feels like the official start of fall/winter.

    • Pat D says:

      Yea, it got really cool all of a sudden over the last week. Like it went from upper 80′s to lower 70′s overnight.

      I agree with what Lewis Black once said: Fall is here again and all I can say about that is ‘Fuck Fall!’

      • Anthony says:

        Haha, agree 100%. Hoping for a mild winter like last year. I believe it only snowed twice… and one was that freak storm in October, the same day of course my entire family went tailgating to the Army football game haha

        • Pat D says:

          Yep, pretty much the same here. That freak storm sucked. My neighbor lost three of his trees because of it. One of our trees is half dead right now, and my dad is worried that if we should have another one, it could fall on our garage.

          • jjyank says:

            That storm was terrible. I didn’t have power for 8 days. My neighborhood only had two exits, and both of them had trees laying across the road, so for 3-4 days we couldn’t even leave. Terrible. I remember it wasn’t until about 9 or 10 PM when my dad realized the night of the storm the problem this would cause. My parents have (I believe) about 70 trees on our property. We ran out frantically, drunk, at 10 PM trying to swat away snow from the branches around the yard. Still lost about 5 of them.

            • Pat D says:

              Luckily we were only without power for a little less than a day. My call center, may it rest in peace, didn’t have full power for a couple days, but we still had to go into work. I was starting to wonder if we were working in unsafe conditions since we’re staring at computer screens without full lighting in the building, and I’m not sure if the heat was fully on either. I was very tempted to call someone at OSHA.

            • Anthony says:

              Damn, that sucks! Where are you from? I remember on the way back from the tailgate that day, traveling on the highways in upstate NY… it was hell on earth. Really makes you grateful for NYC infrastructure. Branches were strewn all over the roads, basically blocking all but one lane. At one point a bunch of our cars had to stop to help some guy push his truck out of the way.

              • jjyank says:

                I’m from north west Jersey. Hunterdon Country, for those familiar.

              • Robinson Tilapia says:

                If you were up in Queens, it sucked massively. I’ll tell you that.

                • Anthony says:

                  Really now? Slow response from the DSNY? They usually joke around about SI being the neglected borough, lol.

                  • Robinson Tilapia says:

                    My favorite random thing about Staten Island is that you guys somehow have a Perkins on Hylan Blvd., which is the only Perkins I’ve ever seen outside of the utter boonies of Florida.

                    • forensic says:

                      There are Perkins’ in PA too. There was one about 2 minutes from where I went to College in central PA and it was always our go-to place for middle of the night eating and quenching the munchies anytime.

                    • Robinson Tilapia says:

                      I remember great muffins and preferring it to Denny’s. That’s all I remember.

                    • Pat D says:

                      It’s so much better than Denny’s. There are a few around where I live. There are also a few that used to be around where I lived but closed in recent years.

                      I love being able to go and get breakfast anytime.

                    • forensic says:

                      They had great food anytime. It was such a goldmine being minutes from a school with a huge greek/party foundation and rep.

                      Being just a couple properties down from a place called the ‘Beer Barn’ certainly didn’t hurt its traffic either.

            • Dave M says:

              That’s why I have a chain saw. And now a generator too. That storm did suck! I was without power for 9 days. I think I bought the generator after 6 days.

      • jjyank says:

        Lewis Black is one of my favorite comedians.

        • Pat D says:

          He came out with a new album last week. Pretty good. Goes on a 15-minute spiel about his old iPhone, the people who work at Apple stores, his current Droid phone and a trip to the Verizon store to get it working.

          Also contains a story about his invitation to Ringo Starr’s birthday, Farmville and the people who are paid to run other people’s farms, and, of course, that which we can’t discuss here.

        • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW) says:

          He’s so edgy. Constantly yelling about things.

    • DM says:

      Got caught walking in it. Real windy, no rain — then like someone dumped a garbage can of water on me from above. Soaked in 2 seconds.

  6. Pat D says:

    Sad to hear about the passing of Steve Sabol. He deserves a lot of credit for the NFL’s popularity.

    • Joe says:

      I saw the live announcing straight from NFL Network. Eisen was about to cry. I was getting chills. Almost teared up myself. I grew up watching the NFL Network on weekends when my Mom and Dad divorced. It got me through some rough times.

  7. MannyGeee says:

    So, AJ Burnett is #1 pitching like a boss against Mil right now, #2 looking like a complete douche in his “Post Yankee Facial Hair”

  8. jjyank says:

    On the plus side for the double header, I’ll be able to watch the day game. Taking the day off tomorrow to take care of some things, but should be back by 1. Awesome, because the bank I work at gets such shitty phone service that it can’t even handle the radio through my phone, much less MLB.TV.

  9. Hall and Nokes says:

    Bad AJ is pitching in a pennant race game, if you have

  10. Stratman9652 says:

    Calling an AJ Burnett grand slam.

    …it wouldn’t be the first time I have been wrong.

  11. Get Phelps Up says:

    I’m gonna miss a double header and Andy’s return tomorrow…sad day.

  12. Nick says:

    Stannis Baratheon 2012


    I figure If I have to be scared w/ this image, I should spread it to as many places as possible. Weird as hell, but SFW.

  14. Rainbow Pinstripes says:

    So… can someone tell me who Casey McGhee pissed off resulting in him never playing for the Yankees again?

  15. Pat D says:

    Why is it whenever I turn on NFL Network, I either hear or see Tim Tebow’s name. Will the worship of this doofus never end?

    Oh, and what was the context in which I saw his name tonight? His post-career “plans,” which involve something we can’t discuss. Oh, just shoot me.

  16. Mike E says:

    Here is some shameless self promotion. I was looking into Nova’s stellar start on Saturday, and noticed that he changed his windup during his DL stint. You can see a gif of the new mechanics in comparison to the old windup.

  17. I can’t believe Ciriaco just scored on that shallow fly ball.

  18. Joe says:

    What’s up guys? College process is stressful.

  19. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Ah crap…..I actually missed the part where Mike said “no politics.” I made a couple of not-so-intense comments before seeing that, Mike. Sorry about that.

  20. Robinson Tilapia says:


    Someone mentioned wanting the beer recipe yesterday. There it is.

    I actually watched the Yanks win the 2009 WS with Garrett Oliver.

  21. Get Phelps Up says:

    Good job Red Sox.


  22. captain kiwi says:

    alright, i’m six episodes into the first season of breaking bad, and i gotta say…

    i’m a little disappoint. it’s an engaging show, for sure, but i just don’t understand why it’s garnered such a huuuuuge fanbase. it’s not a bad show – i just felt so stupid for not following it earlier, and having seen almost the entire first season, i’m okay with having waited.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      It hasn’t even hit halfway past first gear yet. Season three is when it actually starts to go full steam ahead.

      • captain kiwi says:

        seriously? i’m actually surprised by people’s patience then if it takes 3 seasons for the show to really get going. i’m just not sure what i’m getting from the show. like, with arrested development, i knew it was just a sitcom, aloof and consequence-free – and with spartacus, it was an ass-kicking, titty-having kinda show; with breaking bad i’m still just unsure about what i feel, if that makes any kinda sense.

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          I’ll put it to you this way: I thought I had figured out the show and, somewhere in season three, a random character flashes in the background. My wife, who had watched ahead, looks at me and says “you probably just missed it, but you just saw one of the most important characters on this show for the first time.”

          There is so much yet to be revealed. It almost makes me wish I back in season one and random thugs in basements.

          • captain kiwi says:

            hah, well now i feel a bit sheepish. and scared. there have been plenty of sequences so far that have made my jaw drop (SPOILERS? such as when walt slides the bucket-for-shittin back to domingo that JUST held parts of his melted down cousin, that honestly made me look around for an answer – who tf is that crazy), but again, the gravity of the series as a whole hasn’t hit me yet; maybe it won’t until it’s actually over with. but if it gets heavier than that? haha, i’m definitely a little scared.

    • Stratman9652 says:

      Yeah, ride it out a little bit more. I thought the exact same thing when I started it. I kinda struggled to get to the point where I was hooked but once I was it was a non stop binge. It isn’t exactly a fast paced show.

      Personally I’m a Sons of Anarchy fan addict. Don’t think there is a better show on TV.

    • randy velarde, superstar says:

      It is an engaging show — and they really ratchet up the “engaging” aspect of it as you get into Season 2. It’s a lot like a really well-done “page-turner” detective novel or something — except pages are episodes, and the book is a whole DVD box set, and you don’t leave your house until it’s finished. It’s not art, in the way that a really well-done well-acted movie can be. But it is good craftsmanship.

      In addition to being well-crafted/addictive, it has a good hook to get people watching in the first place. Who doesn’t want to see the goofy dad from Malcolm in the Middle turn into a meth dealer? Who doesn’t feel bitter and insecure about their middling white suburban life and wish just a little that they had the balls to be like Walter White/Tony Soprano/pick your favorite recent anti-hero and go out and let all their internalized rage out into the world? Angry middle-aged white men dispensing their bottled-up wrath upon the world are very popular in TV these days, for good reason.

      But, uh, yeah, if somebody says “What? You haven’t watched Breaking Bad yet? Your life is a waste.” they are probably exaggerating its worth a little.

      • captain kiwi says:

        my friends like to speak in hyperboles.

        it has me hooked and i’ll definitely finish what’s available on netflix. i’ve spent all of my free time since sunday catching up. i will give vince gilligan his due though, that man has done wonders with so little so far.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      The show gets progressively better with each season, which is not something you can say about many shows. Season three is when it really goes into overdrive.

      The only thing I can say about that show is you better pay attention. They don’t waste shots, if you see something, it was on purpose.

    • Mike E says:

      There’s a lot of character development in the beginning, but for now you can enjoy some really absurdly beautiful shots Vince Gilligan puts together. There’s a reason the show developed such a big fan base over time. The first two seasons are good, but the show will just blow you away once you get to the third and fourth season. It’s like a very long movie.

    • Bo Knows says:

      It’s an amazingly good show, well written, extremely well acted (and that’s an understatement) and the characters are so multi-layered. Your probably the only person I’ve ever heard who said they couldn’t get into it.

      • captain kiwi says:

        the first thing i noticed was the acting. top notch. bryan cranston is a revelation (he did malcolm in the middle? really?). others have pointed out that i’m still in the nascent stages of the show, so i’m going to keep at it (on season 1 finale as i type this).

        but truthfully i am stupid picky. i feel like i’m also one of the very few in the anti-TDKR camp, for example.

    • YanksFanInBeantown says:

      Just started the second season

      I get where you’re coming from, the first few episodes feel a little “exposition-y” but I was hooked at “This, is not meth.”

  23. CUYanks says:

    Rays really are taking on water at this point.

  24. RetroRob says:

    So MLBN is showing a game they called “regional coverage,” meaning it depends where one lives. Okay, so I live in NY, yet I’m seeing the Angels vs. the Tigers.

    Of course. It’s not as if Yankee fans would want to see the Baltimore Orioles play.

    • Get Phelps Up says:

      They were never broadcasting that game in the first place. The other game they have is the Giants and Rockies.

      • RetroRob says:

        …I’m not saying they had any intention of broadcasting it. I’m saying they should be broadcasting it in this region. That should be the advantage of MLBN, since they simply pick up one of the teams’ feeds. Give them game that’s of most interest in a region.

        • Get Phelps Up says:


        • forensic says:

          In fairness though, they probably had to declare sometime before the season or a couple months ago. At that point, would you think the O’s-M’s game would be more interesting or the Angels-Tigers/Rockies-Giants games?

          Not sure if this is exactly how it works, but they do probably have to decide something early on.

          • RetroRob says:

            I get it. There are probably committments to each team that they’ll appear a certain number of times. Yet when I see “regional game” and I’m NY and I got the Rangers and the Angels, I’m scratching my head!

  25. CUYanks says:

    Trout vs. Miguel Cabrera. Discuss.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Can’t compare, to me. Very different players. I’ll take Trout because of youth and non-fatass-ness.

    • Mike E says:

      It’s not even close. Trout has just about the same bat at a younger age, with speed on the bases, and plays a premium position extremely well. The only downside is more strikeouts.

      There’s actually a case to be made that Cano has been better than Cabrera this year. I’d like to see that argument.

      • CUYanks says:

        I am not ready to say that Trout’s bat is about the same as Miguel Cabrera’s, but this year it has been a good approximation.

        • forensic says:

          I agree. Trout has terrific numbers, and the risk may well be worth it given his age (depending on how long you’re getting each of them for) and position, but I’d REALLY like to see him put up similar production for more than just one year before I pick him over a guy who has proven to be one of the best right-handed hitters of our generation (when discounting his off-field dumbass-ity).

    • forensic says:

      I’ll take one of each.

      Just put it on my tab.

    • RetroRob says:


      It’s a blow out.

  26. RetroRob says:

    Imagine if Mike Trout had made it to the Yankees and he was playing CF for the Yankees this year.

    Well, actually that wouldn’t happen. The Yankees would have only now just decided to give him a few ABs at AA in late August, after they tried converting him to SS or catcher, and remade his swing. :-)

  27. Joe says:

    Freakin’ Miggy! Trout is the MVP for me, but Miggy is two home runs away from the Triple Crown! In Comerica Park! Amazing.

    I’m actually not so sure Trout is the true winner. His defense is probably the only reason I feel that way because Miggy’s defense is poor.

    The power is certainly there. BOOM.

  28. forensic says:

    When people said Desmond Jennings will just be the next Carl Crawford, I bet they were hoping for more of the Rays version of Crawford than the Red Sox version they’ve had this year.

    • CUYanks says:

      I’m glad they both can have one. Now if we can work on getting a Carl Crawford-like player to the Orioles and Blue Jays, we’ll be all set!

  29. Rocky Road Redemption says:

    Serious question: Does Trout still deserve the MVP if Trout gets the triple crown?

    • Rocky Road Redemption says:

      Whoops, second name should be Miggy.

    • CUYanks says:

      I’m cool with a player winning the award when an extraordinary accomplishment occurs (.400 avg, triple crown, record setting hrs or something), even if he wasn’t technically the most valuable player that year. After all, it’s not like these are life or death decisions.

    • forensic says:

      Trout wasn’t in the majors all of April. Since then, I have a hard time giving him so much extra credit for his defense (depending on which WAR system you prefer), though his baserunning certainly helps. Cabrera has a massive advantage in slugging and is doing it in a theoretically much more difficult home park.

      Whether or not Cabrera completes the triple crown, I might give the MVP to him anyway.

  30. CUYanks says:

    Erasmo Ramirez deserves a Jeter gift basket. If the Mariners can steal this game, they have a legit shot at stealing the series with Felix on the mound tomorrow.

  31. forensic says:

    It seems like everytime I’ve flipped over to the O’s game Endy Chavez has been batting.

    I whole-heartedly endorse their new tactic of giving him 10 AB’s per game…

  32. Brian S. says:

    Fuck Tom Wilhelmsen.

  33. Jonathan says:

    Unreal….I still can’t figure out how the Orioles are even good….anybody know what their pythag record is? With all this luck and 1 run wins it can’t be that good. I really don’t see this team as comparable to the 2008 Rays but who knows. Nothing has really changed from when we all expected them to fall off the cliff and the talent level doesn’t show in their record….oh well walk off win please.

    • forensic says:

      Prior to tonight, ESPN had their expected record (not sure if they calculate it exactly the same as pythag, but you get the point) at 72-75…

      • Jonathan says:

        sounds about right. They’re lucky Longoria missed most of the season, the Jays have dealt with major drop offs and injuries and Boston fell apart.

    • RetroRob says:

      Very good bullpen and they score the second highest percentage of their runs on HRs. Apparently this is viewed as a good thing for the Orioles, but a bad thing for the Yankees.

      Seriously, I don’t know either. I do beleive Showalter is a good manager, and he is capable of adding a few wins (maybe two or three compared to the average manager), but not this. So I think it’s a great bullpen and randomness. It was their turn on the spin of the wheel to win every possible close game. They’re return to reality…next year.

  34. Jonathan says:

    Ladies and gentlemen Olivo has 1/3 of his season’s walks in this game alone.

    • forensic says:

      So? He just needed some time to get in the groove…

      Seriously though, how does that guy get 300 AB’s in a season in the majors??? Sadly, part of the answer is Montero’s play…

  35. RetroRob says:

    That mustache on Kawasake was imported from the Derek Holland school of I’m just entering puberty. Shave it off.

  36. RetroRob says:

    Come on, M’s. This is Brian Matusz. He sucks. You can score. Believe in yourself.

  37. Get Phelps Up says:

    Bring in Jim Johnson to face Montero!

  38. forensic says:

    Come on Jesus!!!!!

  39. RetroRob says:

    If only they had gotten that bunt down. 1st and 2nd. One out.

  40. captain kiwi says:

    montero – embedded yankee?

    ….i’m ron burgundy?

  41. Jonathan says:

    gee good thing they didn’t get the bunt down……just give Montero a chance to GIDP or walkoff

  42. Jonathan says:


  43. Jonathan says:

    in play run(s)…that’s all i want to see right now

  44. Jonathan says:

    That was a Yankee inning right there…couple guys on. failed small ball. middle of the order chokes with runners in scoring position. Of course Montero/Saunders isn’t quite Cano/ARod or Tex.

  45. forensic says:

    Gary Thorne sure is fond of saying that a win to allow them to ‘overtake’ the Yankees. Should someone try to explain to him that they’d actually still be tied?

  46. RetroRob says:

    The soft underbelly of the M’s pen shows up. Although in fairness, Furbush is a good arm. I’d take him on the Yankees.

  47. captain kiwi says:

    wait… i missed that aug 7 game entirely, and am only just now hearing/seeing the controversy. quintanilla was out, right??

  48. Zack says:

    If the one guy had gotten the bunt down correctly,the game would have been over.
    And there’s no nice way to spin it..Montero might be able to mash lefties but his righty splits are downright awful.
    As for the O’s..yes they have talent but I still don’t see them winning it all. That bullpen that helped them get this far is starting to show chinks in their armor..and once they face a team that has actual offense in the postseason,I don’t think they’ll make it.
    Of course, I’ve been saying that all year too.

  49. captain kiwi says:

    and how was that a ball to mclouth!!! i need stop drinking..

  50. RetroRob says:

    BTW Yeah to the Seattle broadcast. They show inherited runners scored, first pitch efficiency and other non-traditional stats when the reliever comes in.

    • forensic says:

      I can’t watch too much of their broadcasts. Sims is near the Hawk realm of homerism and well beyond that in terms of overreacting to everything and Bordick is near the Flaherty realm of boring.

  51. Zack says:

    Eric Wedge left his one pitcher in way too long..and was made to pay for it.
    The rest of this game is on Seattle’s laugh of an offense. All due respect to the O’ way would they get away with this playing the Rangers,Reds or Angels or even the Yanks fully healthy.

  52. RetroRob says:

    If anyone is watching this M’s game, I’m confused. The Orioles, I thought, had runners on 1st and 2nd, no outs and the batter bunted. Next thing I see if only one runner on base, and one out, and the batter trying to bunt is gone.

    • captain kiwi says:

      runner on 1st, mcclouth with the “sac bunt” to move the runner to second. “sac bunt” in parentheses because the bunt came off his foot, should’ve been foul/strike two. home ump/2b ump missed it, runner advanced. this must be how o’s win xtra innings.

      • captain kiwi says:

        uh… sorry, i didnt address your actual points. there was only one runner, and the play above explains how it was one on, one out

      • RetroRob says:

        Thanks. I don’t know what I was seeing, but I swear I saw the first two runners get on base, and then thought they were trying to bunt both runners over. So I couldn’t figure out how there was an out on the “bunt”, but only one runner on base.

        Perhaps it has something to do with me having to get up at 4:30 this morning for a conference call, and 21 hours later I’m still awake. Fortunately I don’t have to get up too early tomorrow…err, today.

    • forensic says:

      Ah, the glory of DVR.

      It was only man on 1st, 0 out (Tolleson single). McLouth bunted him to second. Hardy (yes, Hardy!) walked, Avery K’d, Jones HBP, Wieters K’d.

      • RetroRob says:

        I’m watching on my computer and flipping between screens. I bet I flipped back and saw the replay of the first single and thought it was a second hit. The volume is very low, so can’t really hear the announcers.

  53. Zack says:

    The Mariners don’t know how to bunt either it seems. Second straight inning they’ve wasted an out.

  54. Jonathan says:

    Are you fucking kidding me? You’d think if you had a team full of guys that couldn’t hit they’d at least be able to get a bunt down…unreal….

  55. RetroRob says:

    You would think on a team like the Mariners that all their suck hitters would know how to bunt. Apparently not.

    • forensic says:

      I love how even at this time of night (whatever time zone you happen to be in), that multiple people can make basically the same comment about a game on the opposite end of the country from NY.

  56. captain kiwi says:

    jonathan and retrorob owe each other a drink..

  57. Jonathan says:

    how did Olivo get on 2nd?

    • forensic says:

      Stolen base. Guess that explains our question about how he gets 300 AB’s. Clearly it’s the speed threat with that being his 3rd steal already…

  58. Zack says:

    At the very least..the O’s bullpen is starting to get overworked.

  59. forensic says:

    I really need to get some sleep, but I can’t seem to leave this game while it’s unresolved right now.

    I say again, screw you Eric Wedge and Tom Wilhelmsen.

  60. forensic says:

    Endy Chavez batting with 2 outs. Strop coming in who’s been so good to the Yankees this year.

    I smell walk-off in the 12th…

  61. Get Phelps Up says:

    Time to watch the Mariners attempt to bunt again!

  62. RetroRob says:

    Damn it. So close.

    Get this run in.

  63. forensic says:

    Come on Jesus!!!

    Better than last time please!!!

    • RetroRob says:

      Was it known that Montero could not hit RH’d pitchers when he was with the Yankees? Seems odd.

      • forensic says:

        Not necessarily as far as I know (though I don’t bother following the minors overly closely with splits and all), but it does make you wonder since Girardi was so married to only using him against lefties last September too.

      • Laz says:

        With the Yankees
        V LHP : .500/.556/.625
        V RHP : .216/.310/.568

        Small sample, but when he came up and was mashing it was only vs lefties.

  64. forensic says:

    He took a ball. Just give him the damn RBI. He deserves it!

  65. Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

    Come on, score here.

  66. Get Phelps Up says:

    Mariners and Os combined 1-17 with RISP.

  67. RetroRob says:

    All Mariner innings seem to end the same way. Batter striking out.

  68. captain kiwi says:

    cant hang on. too much wine/too late on the east coast. fuck you o’s. mariners, you better get this shit done. let the yankees wake up at least still up by 1/2 a game. dammit.

  69. forensic says:

    Wow, the Yankees offense can get crazy frustrating to watch during some of their RISPfail performances, but at least we don’t have to watch the Mariners on a nightly basis.

  70. Laz says:

    C’mon Mariners…

  71. CUYanks says:

    Is anyone getting sick of Bob’s furniture ads on

  72. forensic says:

    Why did Figgins even bother carrying the bat up there???

  73. Zack says:

    Next time someone complains about the Yankee offense..tell them to watch this game and be grateful.
    And I’m sorry..Montero looks horrific against right handed pitching.

  74. CUYanks says:

    And we’ve entered the every-single-Mariner-who-bats-strikes-out-or-pops-out portion of the broadcast.

  75. forensic says:

    And again, Thorne with his ‘Orioles trying to overtake the Yankees’ bit…

  76. RetroRob says:

    This game is taking on the feel of forever leading to the road of disappointment.

    • forensic says:

      Yeah, but despite Wedge being a dumbass and Wilhelmsen sucking, gotta give the rest of them credit. Noesi gave them about 4 minutes of pitching yesterday and they’re still hanging in there. Expanded rosters or not, that’s not too shabby.

      (Cue their implosion to make me look stupid…)

  77. Zack says:

    Truly is amazing how many chances they had to put this game away. The O’s bullpen in late August to now HAS started to show sighs of wear and tear..any team with decent hitting (not the Rays or Mariners) would have made them pay by now.

  78. forensic says:

    However this game ends, since there can’t be a morning post analyzing the prior games pitcher, I say RAB’s opening post should simply be:

    The Baltimore Orioles:

    WHAT THE F#@%!?!?!?

  79. CUYanks says:

    Does someone have the link to the home plate ump tonight?

  80. Laz says:

    I want another inning just to see if the O’s got another pinch hitting 2b. Their 3 ph-2b are 2/2 with a bb.

  81. CUYanks says:

    Will Nunez play both games tomorrow?

    • forensic says:

      I have to think so. Double headers hurt the Yankees overall because Girardi feels he has to rest everyone. I assume Jeter won’t play the field and Nunez will play SS both games (though I guess with 2 days off he might try to push Jeter playing the field in the first game), with Nix playing 3B in one of the games with A-Rod sitting.

      • Laz says:

        I don’t see arod sitting, he has been hot. He probably goes to dh for one game and jeter either sits or plays the field.

        • forensic says:

          Maybe, I’d be pretty surprised if A-Rod played both though (but I hope I’m wrong).

          With the lefty in the 2nd game, that’s the one Girardi would love to get Nix into 3B for and there’s no way Jeter plays the field in the second one (unless he sits out the 1st one, which is very unlikely). So, I think he tries to put a reasonably regular lineup out there in the 1st game and then we’re all frustrated with the lineup in the 2nd game.

  82. Allie says:

    Late to the party, but is anyone else still hanging in there with this O’s and M’s game?

    • forensic says:

      Hell yeah, but it’s getting close to the end of my night…

      • Allie says:

        I’m lucky, I’m on the west coast, so it’s not too late, and I’m still in undergrad, so I don’t have “real” responsibilities (although this isn’t conducive to studying for a test).

        But seriously, this is just getting ridiculous. I know the Yankees suck with RISP, but these guys are making us look good.

        • forensic says:

          I’m out west too, but I gotta get up in 4 1/2 hours now for work… Can’t help myself though, should sort of be my easiest day of work in a few months so I’m milking this for all I can. :-)

          • Allie says:

            Absolutely! Hope the M’s make it worth your while and pull this off – it would be nice to have the extra half game on the Orioles.

    • Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

      Still here. On the west coast, but might fall asleep soon.

  83. Rocky Road Redemption says:

    Seattle, just fucking run into a HR and end it.

  84. RetroRob says:

    Has the game thread for today’s Yankee game started yet. I believe Andy Pettitte is warming up for his start.

  85. forensic says:

    Come on Jesus!!!

    Third time’s the charm??? Please…

  86. RetroRob says:

    Is this Johnson’s third inning?

  87. dkidd says:

    glad to discover i’m not the only lunatic still following this game

  88. forensic says:

    Wedge channeling his inner-Girardi. Mixing-and-matching in the 16th inning…

  89. Tom says:

    A bit off topic for the M’s/O’s game thread; but how did Miguel Cabrera get nominated for the Roberto Clemente Award?

    Gifted player on the field, but he has 3 significant off field incidents in the last 3-4 years and it’s not how clear how he embodies the off the field portion of the award.

    And can the Mariners just score a run already?

  90. forensic says:

    If the Orioles win this thing after a balk in the 16th inning, everyone else might as well just pack it up because it’s just meant to be…

  91. RetroRob says:

    Did anyone else just lose their feed? It’s telling me I now need to download Adobe? Huh? I’ve been watching the game for hours.

  92. captain kiwi says:

    i dunno whats worse. having the the loudest roommates on the planet, or this game still going on.

  93. CUYanks says:

    I think it’s time to update that Olivo % of BB’s on the year.

    • forensic says:

      4 all season, 3 tonight. That’s kind of crazy.

      Meanwhile, what happened to Ackley? Wasn’t he supposed to be good or something???

  94. forensic says:

    This is probably pushing it, but is Showalter still a genius if he loses this game in 16 innings with Tommy Hunter on the mound while his closer and best reliever have warmed up 4-5 times without pitching?

  95. CUYanks says:

    Let’s have a balk off.

  96. CUYanks says:

    The Orioles 4-8 hitters are a combined 0/30 in this game. That is amazing.

  97. RetroRob says:

    I tuned this game in during the 8th just to catch the end. I did not want to watch 9 innings of Mariner-Oriole baseball. That’s exactly what I’ve now done.

  98. captain kiwi says:

    now that im awake again… who pitches next for mariners… gutierrez?

  99. Brian S. says:

    Need a strikeout here…

  100. CUYanks says:

    I’m pretty sure a team without bats who just tried to crouch down and draw walks would have scored the winning run faster than this.

  101. RetroRob says:

    The M’s better win it this inning. That last pitcher didn’t look good. Even the outs were line drives.

  102. forensic says:

    Come on Jesus!!!

    4th time’s the charm!!!!!

  103. Tom says:

    I say bunt twice here.

  104. RetroRob says:

    Lead-off double. Montero up to strike out.

  105. captain kiwi says:

    who’s on the west coast? you lucky bastards.

  106. Brian S. says:

    Montero is awful

  107. yankees=warriors says:

    Wow, this game started when I started work this morning, and it’s closing in on the time I get off work…crazy!

  108. forensic says:

    Just call it fair and be done with it.

  109. Kevin says:

    Jesus 0-8 on the night..OUCH!

  110. Tom says:

    Where’s Jerry Meals when you need him?

    He would have said “F— this, I’m going home” and called that ball fair

  111. Jakeish says:

    Wow, Montero out to kill my BA in fantasy as well as the Mariners today.

  112. captain kiwi says:



  113. Kevin says:

    I really hope the O’s don’t get too much credit at the end for this. Any team with actual offense would have beaten them a long time ago.

  114. forensic says:

    Well, I got to see Montero go 0/100 tonight, so that’s about all for me.

    Enjoyed killing some time with you all. Good luck to those of you trying to deal with the rest of this game. I think I should be able to fall asleep pretty quickly with it in the background thanks to all the exciting offense.

  115. RetroRob says:

    This is like a Twilight Zone episode. We’re actually all dead, this is hell, but we don’t know it. This game will never end.

  116. DT says:

    After watching this game, I now feel Montero will be the most overrated prospect ever.

  117. Zack says:

    O’s win…and please spare me the O’s magic or any other garbage tonight. Montero and the joke of a Mariners offense could have been shutdown by my father’s softball team.

  118. Tom says:

    How many damn popups do the Mariners have?

  119. CUYanks says:

    For all of those loss-column fanatics, we are still 1 up in the loss column.

    • CUYanks says:

      We could be up or down by 1.5 games by the end of tomorrow night. Lets hope it’s up.

      • Zack says:

        Me too..but you know what? This is one of those games where whatever praise Buck and the bullpen get..they don’t deserve.
        I’m sorry but when they played Oakland,they lost two out of three because the A’s actually had players that could hit the ball.
        If they had still been playing Oakland,I have no doubt this game would have ended a lot differently then it did.

  120. Deep Thoughts says:

    Screw you Montero and your pop-ups, screw you Mariners and your 0-17 with RISP. Only good thing is O’s pitchers had to throw around 275-300 pitches tonight, the day before facing King Felix.

    • Laz says:

      18 innings is rough, but they play wednesday and then they have an off day.

      • Zack says:

        THat may be true but the articles Axisa been writing about the Yankee bullpen also apply to Baltimore’s bullpen as well. The Oakland series took a lot out of them but in the past two weeks..Buck has had to go to them more and more.
        I won’t deny what the O’s have done but from what I’ve seen the past few games with them..they have serious flaws of their own and a gassed bullpen will soon be another one.

  121. DT says:

    Mariners need to fire their entire team except for the pitching staff and just start over.

  122. Jose M. Vazquez says:

    I would like to talk about protecting pitchers from suffering serious head injuries. Back in the fifties(I think it was the fifties) when they suggested that helmets be worn, you’d be surprised how many players thought that that was chicken to wear one. Mickey Mantle hated the idea and so he wore a protective liner under his cap. He only wore the helmet when it became mandatory. So, going back to the protective liner is not a bad idea to protect pitchers as it can be worn without hindering movement and today can probably be light enough that the pitcher will not notice it after a while.

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