ALDS Game Five Thread: Orioles @ Yankees
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So it all comes down to this. The Yankees and Orioles have been separated by more than one run for a total of six outs this series, playing four incredibly tight games that were more “oh my goodness they keep blowing opportunities” than “holy cow what a great game!” You know what I mean. Outside of the ninth inning of Game One and Raul Ibanez, this series hasn’t been a banner “let’s make some more fans!” exhibition for the game.
Anyway, by now you all know the story. Both teams are struggling so much offensively that they only have two players who can not be considered automatic outs each — Derek Jeter and Mark Teixeira for the Yankees, Nate McLouth and Manny Machado for the Orioles. Everyone else has been flailing away, running into bad luck, or some combination of both. CC Sabathia needs to come out and dominate like he did in Game One and the offense … I mean, they just have to wake up. What more can you say? Here are the lineups…
Baltimore Orioles
LF Nate McLouth
SS J.J. Hardy
CF Adam Jones
RF Chris Davis
C Matt Wieters
3B Manny Machado
1B Mark Reynolds
DH Lew Ford
2B Robert Andino
RHP Jason Hammel (8-6, 3.43)
New York Yankees
SS Derek Jeter
LF Ichiro Suzuki
2B Robinson Cano
1B Mark Teixeira
DH Raul Ibanez
RF Nick Swisher
CF Curtis Granderson
C Russell Martin
3B Eric Chavez
LHP CC Sabathia (15-6, 3.38)
It’s not the most picturesque of days in New York, but the weather will not be a factor tonight. First pitch is scheduled for 5:07pm ET and the game can be seen on TBS. Enjoy.
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lol the Yankees are playing a 5 o’clock playoff game on a Friday afternoon.
Wow. Thankfully I checked over here. I guessed the game would be coming on either at 7:30 or 8:30!
As is, I have an unmovable event this evening, so can only watch the first 45 minutes. I guess if they win I’ll just be happy the team is moving on. If they lose, I’ll be glad I missed it!
Probably the worst offensively played series between two teams in the history of baseball.
I honestly don’t know who’s going to win and I’m starting to think that it really won’t matter who wins because neither team is going to get by Detroit. Not because Detroit is a good team, but the Yankees and Orioles suck so badly on offense.
Meh. The Yankees offense could easily wake up against Detroit. Just win today and worry about that tomorrow.
Exactly.
This is my hope. That somehow we manage to get less unlucky than the Orioles and then, with whatever voodoo the O’s have going on grounded in Baltimore, we can actually hit against the Tigers.
Let’s just hope it’s the Yankees’ offense that wakes up. They’ve both been so lousy that it could easily be Baltimore that wakes up first.
Yeah, this has got to be one of the worst series offensively I have ever seen. It’s been pretty painful to watch, on both sides.
Orioles line: .197/.238/.296
Yankees line: .216/.280/.333
We have to give the pitchers some credit here. It’s why postseason hitting statistics generally are lower than regular season. Yet the Yankee hitters still have to take part of the blame. They’re too good and the Orioles pitchers are not that good for a .216/.280/.333 line.
If the offense comes through today and wins we know what the problem is that that it is contained on the bench(ARod).
If the offensive struggles continue and they lose, blow the whole thing to smithereens starting at the top with Girardi.
False.
One player does not a lineup make. A-Rod’s presence (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with how people like Grandy, Swish, Tex and Cano play. So far they’ve sucked. If they stop sucking, we’ll do well, regardless of what A-Rod’s doing.
Now that I think about it Tex, while he’s been far from great, has not completely sucked this series.
Tex is 5 for 15 in the series. His bad leg makes him seem less productive than he actually has been. He’s had a good series.
zero rbi’s… 0 with RISP.. he gets a pass because of the other dreck but he has performed OK…ok compared to horrible is good…
1 rbi…..on a risp hit……i know reality has never been your strong suit………throw him a parade….
Tex’s OBP this series is .474. He’s not hitting for any power, but I can’t really get on him. Tex, Jeter, Martin, Ibanez and Nix are the only hitters doing anything at all, and only three of them are regulars.
Correct. If the other hitters were doing anything close to Tex then this series would have ended with a 3-0 Yankee win. Tex hasn’t been the problem. Considering how rusty he has the right to be, and the calf is hurting his already slow running, he’s been more than fine. Jeter’s been fine. Cano and Grandy the two biggest issues.
Just stop. You’re wrong on both issues.
Cano-awful
Granderson-awful
ARod-awful
Swisher- awful
Where does Girardi get blame again?
It’s Eddardworld…Girardi will be the greatest thing in the world next week.
He has made a lot of bad decisions and I’ve never liked him as a manager at all, but this team as just sucked this year.
I still don’t understand not starting Gardner instead of Granderson tonight. Even though Gardner has a few at bats this year, he can’t be as bad as Granderson. And even if he is, at least he can play defense.
As many have said, defense hasn’t been the problem in this series.
Not yet, but we don’t have a crystal ball.
But maybe Gardner might get a walk or something.
Would be something if the offense explodes today with this lineup.
Well it all comes down to this. Win, and the Yankees might only have to win 8 of their next 14 games to take home a championship. Lose, and they go home. Let’s not get down on this team until the final out.
Positivity guys!
“Let’s not get down on this team until the final out.”
You’re not from around these parts, are ya.
Honestly, I’m impressed with the trolls’ stubbornness. No matter how many time the Yankees have late rallies, they persevere in calling for Girardi to be fired whenever the Yanks are losing by 1 run in the third.
You have to hand it to them. They bring their A games in the playoffs.
Haha. Unfortunately I know how it gets all too well. Let’s just hope CC doesn’t fall behind the first hitter 1-0 and we’re good.
Hopefully the pitching has just been so great from the O’s that it’s made the offense terrible. But with their RISP fail during the regular season, I highly doubt that. If the Yankees win tonight, it’s not going to be fun having to face Verlander twice and risk getting knocked out of the playoffs by America’s armpit for the second year in a row.
They’re not getting by Detroit. Neither is Baltimore. Detroit has a clear path to the series if they execute properly.
87 fucking wins and the most overrated team in baseball in my opinion. Not a fun year so far.
And yet they will be favorites for this ALCS.
This is not a given, actually.
Oh it will be. You watch. They will be favored against both teams. Why? Verlander versus a struggling offense.
Maybe by you, but I can almost assure you that the oddsmakers will make the Yankees the favorites, especially if they have a big win today. Orioles might be underdogs (by Vegas). Don’t forget that Detroit took the full 5 games to win their series, as well, and they actually lost 2 of their last 3. Verlander won’t pitch every game in the series. They have a suspect bullpen. They start Delmon Young. etc. etc. etc.
They’re extremely overrated. Couldn’t even win 90 games in an awful division. Bring them on.
I wouldn’t have a problem with this but once you factor in our hitting and Verlander twice (probably two automatic losses) it won’t be looking good. At least we have a great pitching staff and we do have the ability to shut them down. Not looking forward to Prince in Yankee Stadium though.
And Miguel kills the Yankees historically.
I don’t even want to think about him.
The Yankees have done a decent job against Verlander if memory serves (at least relative to other teams). I wouldn’t call those auto losses by any means.
I think he has a 5.43 ERA if I recall correctly, but that doesn’t mean anything.
He could throw two complete game shutouts allowing four hits and ten strike outs and I wouldn’t be surprised in the least.
Neither would I, but you never know. Yanks just need to win today and take their chances with whatever happens in the LCS.
That’s true. And he has not had good career numbers at Yankee stadium where he would pitch a potential Game 7.
0-2 with a 4.50 ERA
They only face Verlander twice if the series goes 7 since Verlander isnt starting until Game 3.
Eh, there’s a reason they won 7 and 5 fewer games than the Yankees/Orioles this year (in a weaker division as well). Of course they look good right now, and they could go all the way, but no team has a clear path.
There’s no way the Giants can win the NLDS after going down 0-2 and being outscored 14-2.
Understand that what happened yesterday or even the last week is not predictive of how a team will play today or tomorrow.
Exactly. Just get to the next series.
Everybody has a clear path to the series _if they execute properly_. If this team executed properly, this series would be over already. The problem with this team is not how good they are when they execute, but how rarely they execute.
Boo games starting before I get out of work….Hope they’re winning by the time I get home. Bring it, CC!
I requested off of work today. But I forgot that ALCS Game 1 starts tomorrow, so I’m fucked. But it might not matter because I don’t know if Jason Hammel or Randy Johnson is starting for the O’s tonight.
Just one big inning, offense. That is all I ask. You’ve done it so many times before.
The Tigers are not the favorites against us if we can get there. Our rotation can match theirs. CC would have to pitch on 3 days rest in Game 3 but that would be our only scheduling disadvantage. The Tigers would have to fly here overnight for tomorrow’s ballgame. And we have HFA. Their lineup is 2 players. Our lineup is 1 player so that might be a wash.
What’s the format for the LCS? Does the team with the worse record start at home?
No its the regular 2-3-2.
Thanks.
cano could not hold cabrera or fielders jock..
cano is a flashy soft player….
Cano’s better than Fielder.
fielder?…..lmao
fielder career postseason…..192/294/452
throw him a parade……give him an extension…….
If Fielder were making $214 mill as a Yankee and hitting .190 in the playoffs, you’d hate him.
things to keep in mind for the next 3-4 hours:
baseball is a game of failure
unscripted drama is awesome
nothing you say or do will impact the outcome of the game
baseball is played by human beings
everyone on the field and in the dugout is trying their best
1996-2000 was an anomaly that will never happen again
things i will forget the first time a yankee hitter strikes out with men on base:
see above
Never say never.
Yet Yankee fans who came of age during the dynasty run have a very poor perspective on the game, one which they probably won’t ever see again as you say.
the yankees were 3 outs from winning 5 world series in 6 years. there is no way that happens again in our lifetimes
Unless your 97 years old, it might.
you’re*
touche!
Shhh…we don’t talk about that game.
Seriously, whenever I’m asked what’s the worst Yankee loss (usually by a Red Sox fan hoping it’s 2004), I always say 2001. It was already an amazing run, and it was clear that team was a little past prime. The idea of winning four straight World Series in this day and age with the multiple rounds is way more impressive than the Yankees five-straight runs. That’s the one I want back.
>1996-2000 was an anomaly that can never happen again.
I have to disagree with that. There’s no reason any team in baseball can’t have a run like that. It isn’t common, but I’m sure one team-maybe the Yankees or even the Astros- at one point in time will do that again.
Amen brother.
(except sometimes, if I wear the wrong hat, the Yankees lose.)
A Yankee manager benching a high-paid superstar in a pivitol game five?! It’s never happened. Oh, wait. Billy Martin benched that Reggie guy against the Royals in ’77 since he looked totally lost at the plate. Reggie came off the bench and get a hit in that game, and then went on to lead the Yankees to the World Series, culminating in his three-HR game.
In 2009, Johnny Damon looked useless in the ALDS. Fans (many here) wanted him benched the rest of the series. His game picked up in the next series and he helped lead the Yankees to the World Series.
Assume nothing moving forward. Now if the Yankees can just win tonight!
Already Sherman and Buster tweeting about how only a few thousand fans are in their seats and comparing the atmosphere at the stadium to a game in mid-May.
It’s a good question. Where are they? The fans, I mean.
Work? How dare they work in the afternoon of a weekday. Absurd scheduling by MLB, just like the day Game 5 from yesterday.
Yeah. I think if I had tickets I would head out of work early, but not everyone can do that. Even if many did, the traffic getting in has to be bitch right now.
When I heard the game was a 5 I knew that would be the case. The stadium will be dead for the first few innings. And will get worse if/when the Orioles score some runs. This has O’s blowout win written all over it.
Why? Fans have no impact on the game. This has been proven.
I’m very scared that Wieters, Reynolds and Jones are going to finally wake up. You can’t keep them down forever.
Same can be said for the Yankee hitters plus they dont have to face CC which the O’s hitters have to face.
I hope you’re right, but these Yankee hitters look godawful.
My prediction for tonight is that Sabathia pulls a Verlander and throws a CGSO, Yanks win 1-0 on a Chavez RBI. Alex benched again tomorrow.
I hope you’re right. I at least feel like the upside for CC is there. For Hammel, he hasn’t thrown 6 innings even in 3 months.
I will bet you 100 internet dollars that something other than this happens.
At least A-Rod can’t strike out to end the Yankees season this year.
Don’t be so sure about that.
yea give it time
He’s going to strikeout to end the Yankees’ season.
It will be in the clinching game of the World Series for the Yankees, where the winning run scores from 3rd on a wild pitch.
Book it.
I have a feeling that someone is getting blown out.
Wow, that stadium is empty.
Sure he can!
Did smoltz just call the yankees the yankers?
Probably. He’s such a bitch. I hate him so much. I’ve never wanted Tim McCarver in the booth until this series.
Only took Joe potentially the end of the season game to figure out where robbie should have been batting the past 3 seasons.
let’s keep the negativity in check tonight guys – remember no one has choked yet on the yankees. it’s simple to small a sample size so it’s impossible to choke in the alds. everything is great.
+1
in theory, this is supposed to be fun
we need CC to hit
Yes. Let’s make this a bearable place. Never give up!
As RAB has gotten bigger the overall quality of game threads has dropped. Mike even addressed that in that chat today, which I just ran through. It’s the nature of the beast. Larger site means a higher volume of noise. It’s the WFAN crowd.
The trolls have been here forever. Difference is every time a “troll” appears people have to post 50 comments in response to it, shocked that they have a different opinion.
Honestly things would be so much better if people have some ability to ignore some things that can be avoided.
Responses to Greg for example.
They’ve got their biggest choker on the bench so there is hope as long as CC dominates.
Holy shit there really are like no people at all sitting behind home plate right now.
Nice start. 27 pitch perfect game and an ALCS Game 1 start?
Well-off New Yorkers, they’re having drinks and dinner. Get to the game a bit later, like the 5th inning. Where they’ll sit with their “devices” and engage in cybermasturbation.
Winner-take-all and Legends is 70% empty. Love corporate fans!
Just a game, and we’ve been fortunate to be in the playoffs for, what, 17/18 seasons now? I am dissapointed to a point though and understand how others could be too.
50,000 people in new york city couldn’t manage to make it to a 5pm game?
The ones there at least seem to care. 2 strike cheering is a good start!
People have jobs. MLB screwed up scheduling this when they did. Swing and a miss! Let’s go offense!!!!!!!
They’re there, they’re just in the restaurants behind the seats. You have to take context into account and the type of fan involved.
If I had tickets I wouldn’t have been there on time.
Place is half empty at the moment. But it’s loud.
I’m thinking maybe the awful start time does a bit in terms of selection bias, in a good way.
True.
This is not to say that many very good Yankees fans have jobs and commitments. It’s just that the inconvenience of the start time is something that the more “casual” fans might see as a reason not to go. I wonder how many people here are going to be in trouble on Monday?
The start time wasn’t even official until after the Nats-Cards game ended at 7pm last night.
Great 1st inning for CC. Keep that pitch count low so he can start Game 3 of the ALCS on 3 days rest w/o any problems
big game for ichi.
Good first inning for CC.
Time for teh runz.
Maybe the small crowd will take pressure of the hitters. They will just treat this like a regular night game in mid April.
make it june and you’ve got yerself a deal.
Fuck this fanbase. Elimination playoff game and it looks like a rescheduled rainout in Cleveland. Don’t care that it’s 5:00 PM. If you can afford those seats behind home plate you can beg off work for an afternoon and make it look like this city gives a shit.
If you have tickets on the lower tier and you’re not in your seat by the third inning, you should forfeit it to someone in the upper deck.
The upper tiers are half empty too. Who gets their tickets?
There’s a possibility that the people in the upper deck work for a living, and their seats aren’t on the screen for 90% of the telecast. They can show up when they feel like/are able.
it hasnt affected either national league series. theyve played in the day, hell even earlier for pacific time giants, and their stadiums were full and loud. for games much earlier than 5 pm their time no less.
its the fanbase, for better or worse.
the people in those seats dont pay for them. their companies and sponsors do.
its always like this. legends has been partly empty most of the series. they fans come late, leave early, and sit in the restaurant instead of their seats in between.
its not going to change. the yankees targeted specifically corporations for everything in the lower bowl behind the field, and they got it. until theres a new stadium in 75 years, itll always be like that.
“Umpires have done a good job this series.”
WHAT?
In the field yes they have. At the plate. NOOOOOO
O’s strikezone, huge as usual
The plate umpires have not given the Yankee hitters a break at all this series.
Shitty umpiring already. Fuck.
Randy johnson is in the building boys…
That was a borderline strike on Jeter. Now we’ll have to wait and see if he calls that all game.
for both sides
I give this three innings. If the offenses are like this again, I can’t watch.
Man that place is so empty! Fuck you tbs for putting the game at such a stupid time
+1 on that. So pissed I have to settle for Sterling for a game like this.
Sterling and Waldman still have to be better than these 3 d-bags in the booth.
Yeah, but I hate not being able to see the game. Regular season, I’ll deal. Winner-take-all game 5? Fuck that noise.
True, not seeing the game sucks balls.
they are also real bad….
stuart, don’t ever reply to my posts.
Ichiro’s been another Invisible Man.
Every hitter but Jeter.. a bunch of chokers.
True. But Baltimore has choked even more in this series.
Why do the umps want the O’s to win? Yankees winning mean more money to them. It doesn’t make sense.
We have yet to see Cano go the other way. Every out is a grounder to the right side.
nice inning for the yankee bats. cano with a lunge job, ichiro with anothing grounder, and jeter watched strike 3 knee high right over the plate.
looks like the ladies broyght there A game today. this may be long and painful….
DEAD man walking….
Sexist idiot.
man for 30$ dollars this year, they should at least make ALEX scrape the gum off the benches.
$30 isn’t a lot these days, pops.
touche lol
Stop trying to pull the sinker.
its an 8 inning game now.
lets do it.
Nice play Russel.
CC You’re gonna have to be really good tonight.
Considering the Orioles output this series, I beg to differ.
Considering the Yankees output this series, I beg to differ with you begging to differ.
Let’s put our differences aside! And our begging!
Believe it or not the Yankees have hit better than the Orioles in this series. The stats show it.
Just need the score to show it today!
Now we know what the Rays’ intrasquad scrimmages are like.
Can’t watch the game but CC sounds like he is dealing. Now the offense needs to give him 3 runs.
You get the feeling that Smoltz and Ripken Jr want to run down between innings and coach up some of the O’s players.
While I expect the TV crews to be on the side of the underdog, this crew is just absurd.
who cares. the yalways root against the big city. WHO CARES..
they do not boo nobodies………
My favorite was yesterday when Smoltz was like “I know you’re not supposed to do this, but I really want the Orioles to tie the series. How about a homer here?”
He said that? Nothing screams “my ass still hurts from 1996″ like that.
I really hope the Yankees win today so I can happily reflect on the first ever 4-full five-game series in post-season history.
I also want to be able to remember Ichiro’s ballerina play with fondness.
BTW What crazy stat was Smoltz just saying about the Yankees. They’ve only played three postseason series (right?) since winning in 2009.
is that really a crazy stat?
Well, it has been 37 years, so yes.
I don’t know. I was only half paying attention, but his numbers sounded off. It’s almost like he eliminated the entire 2009 postseason for whatever reason. Then again, this is the same crew that thinks Phil Hughes has trouble getting two strikes on a hitter, but is great at putting hitters away when he gets two strikes.
CC got the low strike call on Weiters so the zone seems consistent so far at least.
Yep, Jeter didn’t like it, neither did weiters. I’ll take consistentcy.
I’ll take a correctly called strike zone.
Consistently wrong is not a good thing. Would people be happy with the first base umpire calling a runner safe if he was within one stride of the bag, so long as he was consistent for both teams?
Apples and oranges comparison. You’ll basically never get a correctly called strike zone, ever. All you can expect is consistency from the umpire for his perceived strike zone.
My thinking. I’ve seen many games where it is not consistent, that I am happy when its consistent as long as it isn’t ridiculously big or small. Pitchers and hitters will figure out the zone that is being called.
Boy am I sick of that Springsteen song.
So we have here two offenses that are struggling, two pitching staffs and bullpens that have pitched brilliantly, and two defenses that have done their jobs.
It’s a wash, but for one small factor. Luck. This series has, as many do in the postseason, come down to luck.
Yes — the Orioles are lucky that Girardi was stubborn/stupid enough to not PH for A-Rod in the 8th.
What’s funny is how luck is in the eye of the beholder. While I will vehemently say the Yankees luck has been worse, you go to Camden chat and you would think that the Orioles are the most victimized team in history.
The series could have ended last night if they had a decent manager.
Like who?
Availible not fantasy, please.
You can’t assume that.
Some people were complaining, but the Yankees were extremely lucky in game 3. They were down in the 9th inning, and were able to tie it.
Look! Ibanez made contact and got the ball to the outfield! That would have been useful in the 8th inning with 1 out yesterday…
Much rather have Alex
Didn’t Ibanez ground out against O’Day in the ninth? A fallacy but still…
The right ground-out would have been fine too — wasn’t Ichiro on 3rd?
He would have been walked if he PH for ARod. Then Swisher with the bases loaded.
I think he gorunded to Reynolds at first. Would have been a close play at home.
Approach may have been a wee bit different between 2 out noone on and runner on 3rd 1 out.
That’s why I said it was a fallacy. The bottom line is we’ll never know.
I also wonder if Buck doesn’t just walk Ibanez with the base open.
cia should tape this..no need for waterboarding
Can CC go 12 today?
What was Swisher doing swinging at that?
Awful swing by Swish there.
How can every one of these Orioles pitchers never make a mistake? It’s unbelievable. The majority of these guys have been either ice cold or have not pitched in the last month!
They’ve been making some mistakes, the bats just can’t hit those mistakes.
Hammel has thrown maybe 1 pitch out of 27 over the middle of the plate in the first two innings, and Cano pulled it just foul with home run distance.
no matter what happens from here on swisher cant be a free agent soon enough
Amen
alright lets get these bats going.
we look listless again.
Jesus Christ Swisher what is up with that eye black?
swisher had the winning ab of the 2nd. swung at a ball on the dirt…
this team is abysmal. as I whined incessantly all season talking about this people mocked me, they are 2nd in runs scored. it does not matter how you score, blah blah blah.
the guy pitching is not denny mcclain or guidry, this guy is a hasbeen who has been around the block for years.
No hope man.
Same looking at bats every game.
At least we’ve stopped swinging at pitches in the dirt.
Any chance of everyone just kind of agreeing to stop bringing up managerial moves of games past like they are the sole reason we didn’t win in four games?
I know things are frustrating, but those comments are really kind of getting old.
For those still stuck at work: How does CC look so far?
For those *of us*
He looks good. Location is good. The ump is giving the pitchers the lower corner of the plate so it looks like they are trying to hit that.
Which means 40% of people with tickets to this game.
He had a pretty filthy slider to get Wieters in the second.
Stop bragging that you’re employed!
Haha my bad.
Thanks for the context, everyone.
Pretty sharp.
Obviously he’s getting outs, but he’s for the most part hitting his location consistently
CC looks on. Let’s put some good at bats together!
Damn, Smoltz and Ripken are really going to lower the standards of quality at Bleacher Report
So I saw Taken 2: Electric Boogaloo today. Not as enjoyable as the first one. I think this was partially due to the PG-13-izing of it. But I do like how they set it up for another sequel, which will inevitably be entitled Taken 3: Electric Boogaloo-er.
Or maybe it will be Taken 3: Electric Boogaloo Again.
Taken 2: Took Ones ft. Mobb Deep
Shows how out of touch with “modern music” I am that I had to google that.
If you had to Google it, I have no hope.
I don’t generally listen to rap, hip-hop, R&B of the last 20 years.
I stick to classic & hard rock, and oldies. Very slight forays into country and folk, and select classical. That’s just my tastes.
We have similar tastes on the music front. I don’t have any issue with rap, just never been able to get into it.
I have some issues with rap. I really can’t take a lot of the lyrics.
Nobody takes a more cheerful 0-fer thank Nick Swisher. He’s loving every minute of it!
*than
I’m not sure you understand the concept of “coping mechanism.” That’s OK, you’re not the only one around here.
well at least CC came to play..
so sick of seeing swisher smiling after every time he strikes out on an awful pitch. also sick of all these players taking a fastball right down the middle and then striking out on a pitch in the dirt.
lew ford in 2004: i love steroids!!!
lew ford in 2012: i miss steroids!!!
Didn’t even realize that was the same Ford who was on the Twins.
Nice shot of TBS showing the guy out of the box.
That never gets called anyway. I’ve never seen it called.
I have seen some catchers touching the batter’s back foot, which annoys the batter and then gets the umps attention. Yet it’s been a long time since I’ve seen anything done about it. Maybe the catcher doesn’t want it called on his own hitters, so both sides let it go.
I know it’ll never happen, but if the umpire did decide to do something about it, what would happen? Batter called out? A strike?
Batter called out. It happened once to Hank Aaron or he’d have 756 hrs, I believe.
CC may have to pitch the best game of his career to win this game- I can’t see Yanks mustering more than a run or two. They just look awful offensively.
i would pay to see a drag bunt
So Lew Ford should pretty much be called out on the spot once he puts a ball in play when he’s out of the batters box, no?
(not that they ever call it)
It never gets called anyway.
So you are saying “Yes” to my question?
Sterling and Waldman going on and on speculating about how maybe Kuroda is broken
“Broken” how? Was there some sort of injury the other night?
Why?
What? Why? Where did that idea come from?
WTF?? What brought up this conversation, the fact that Girardi said before game Kuroda is probably the only pitcher unavailable today??
Kuroda needs the rest. Waldman and Sterling are senile and/or crazy.
Yes, they claim that there’s something going on with him because he’s unavailable. I assumed he was unavailable because if we win, we need a starter for the next game and he would be it? Also, you know, he’s had the least amount of rest?
CC bringing his A-game as expected.
CC in beast mode.
Hopefully the offense can make it matter.
Atta boy CC. Come on Yankees… lets gets some runs.. or a run. Just something. Please.
well, we knew CC would come out like this
bad thing is we knew the O would come out like this as well.
Screw it. This inning, Grandy goes boom.
We’ll see if Granderson is, like the rest of them so far, in repeat-of-yesterday mode.
Got a good swing there.
come on go the other fucking way
It was a good swing. That’s the hardest he’s hit a ball all series.
Well, it wasn’t a K.
Small silver lining… At least a few guys have put good wood on the ball.
Yankee hitters continue to pull outside pitches.
Granderson hasn’t been “working” for about 3 months. Why not try Gardner? Can’t be any worse offensively, and on D he is way better.
Yes he can be worse offensively. Never liked Gardner’s offense. Doesn’t hit for power and two streaky of a contact hitter. At least with Granderson you get the threat of power.
He makes contact and works the count.. Granderson K’s on 4 pitches.
Which sometimes is to his disadvantage because he leaves some fat pitches on the plate.
So what, Gardener has an exponentially higher percentage of bunting for a hit and stealing second than waiting around for all these magical power hits to happen. I know bunting is a bad word on RAB but the percentages are so much better.
Also he sucks at stealing bases too. He should have so many more than he does.
Again, so fuckin what? You spend all your time bitching about all this shit that’s not working yet want to continue to do the same thing. You are stuck on stupid!!
Well, that’s the first time I’ve seen him hit the ball well this series.
hammel perfect game intact
350 ft flyballs in a 400 ft field
We’re gonna hit this guy. I can feel it.
i wish we were. but we’re not.
Hammel use to pitch for the Rockies. THE ROCKIES!
What does that say about this line up?
He also had a 3.43 ERA and a 3.29 FIP. He’s pitched pretty damn well this year.
Outside strike is outside.
ok, second time through the order…..
HR swing from every batter.. if you are a pitcher, no reason to throw anything remotely close to the zone. Throw everything away and out of the zone, they will try to pull and make an out.
Except from Eric Chavez and he flew out too.
Fly ball, fly ball, fly ball.
I know several people who are going to the game but couldn’t make the 5 pm start. How does that translate into screw everyone and this fan base sucks? Both coming in and going out of the city on a Friday night is brutal. Even public transit sucks on a Friday afternoon.
I cant think of many worse times to start a baseball game in the Bronx than 5pm on a Friday. Too bad this game is going to be over before half the fans get there at this rate
Is because of the Schedule. ALCS starts tomorrow. Which is kinda dumb, 3 days off after season, no day between series for 1 team, 1 for other team.
Fuck. Right at him.
and nothing falls in of course
Some pretty good swings, though.
yea that inning they showed minor signs of life.
Well, they are starting to make some solid contact. Hope it continues.
wait can i change my cy young vote??
How many balls are they going to hit hard in this series right at somebody? They’ve outplayed Baltimore by far more than the scores would suggest.
You’re starting to get it. This is the element of luck in postseason play.
Hard to have much “luck” when you don’t put the ball in play with runners on base. There is a huge difference between bemusing a few hard hit balls right at guys and thinking that they are losing because of bad luck.
But both offenses have been struggling.
What does that have to do with what I just said? If you don’t put the ball in play, you don’t have much of an opportunity to have good or bad luck offensively.
What I mean is that in terms in play on the field, the series has been a virtual wash. Which means another element will decide this game.
This is where luck comes into play. Yankees have hit the ball hard several times and have hit it right at people.
Move over Don Larsen and Roy Halladay, you may have company tonight.
If CC gives up a run it’s over. Good thing he’s been Justin Verlander dominant thus far. 1 run and it’s over.
This means you expect the Yankees to score 0 runs. So no matter what, it’s over.
Are we already starting this? Can’t we hold off a few innings? If this is such misery that they don’t put up 100 runs in the first inning, why watch?
agreed
Feel free to stop reading. This series should be over already.
Granderson actually had a good AB. Lets hope he can build on that in his next ab’s.
Most annoying Oriole – Nate McClouth? Who the hell is this guy?
my wife calls him “hat head guy”
future hall of famer from what i can tell
Here comes the end of the season right here.
Not when Nate McClouth is the only offensive weapon.
Are you going to say that for 9 innings?
Yes.
Nate McLouth, baseball legend.
They are obviously seeing the ball ok. Hopefully that translates to hits.
That swing by Jones was scary…
Agreed, but an out’s an out at this point.
is it me or adam jones is obnoxious.
my radar is off. that jones fly ball was the 4th or 5th ball i thought was tattooed that was a harmless fly ball. anyone else having that experience?
Read my comment below, agree with you. Not that I thought they might be HR’s but at least be a problem for the outfielders but they have been all routine outs.
I felt that way too. We must just be anxious.
Some balls being hit pretty decent to the outfield and they arent even coming close to the warning track.
Adam Jones is one cool dude. Can’t say anything bad about the guy…except that he is on the orioles and not the Yankees.
I don’t get it. Both of these teams are squaring balls up and they’re going nowhere.
I think part of the lack of offense in this series has to be attributed to the weather. The first two games were miserable weather, and tonight it’s 52 degrees with a crazy wind whipping.
Rickey McLouth.
Throw the ball in the fucking dirt CC.
You have to throw him a high fastball now. He is leaning out over the plate and reaching for the slider.
Got lucky because Davis almost got to that last slider.
How does this battery not notice him making a huge adjustment in the middle of that at bat?
This is why I criticize Martin sometimes. You have to read the bat sometimes, and not just throw the same, formulaic sequences.
The ball is simply not carrying today. Someone is going to have to absolutely launch one to get it out.
Why are so many people calling him “Nate McClouth?” Did I miss a joke or is everyone ignorant that his name is “McLouth?”
Quick, spell the name of the lefty reliever from the Cardinals.
Rzepzcynski.
And, no, I didn’t look it up.
And…exhale.
As shown there. Davis was ready and on a summer day, that goes out.
Now Davis hits one off the end of the bat and it carries almost to the track to CF. Weird.
But he was ready for that slider. That’s why he hit it hard.
And all 500 fans at the Stadium cheer CC standing Mclouth at 2nd.
Now that last fly ball looked like nothing and actually carried pretty well. I’m confused.
That’s what Granderson said.
That ball had some carry. He nearly one armed it to the warning track (obviously Davis has some power)
I don’t know. I think on a summer day, that goes way out. The wind and the temperature kept it in.
Davis one armed it but he knew he was getting a slider.
just get on base..somehow…
Was half expecting Smoltz to start saying “stretch…stretch…”
Okay, second time through the order. Time to get something done.
This offense…….
weather always has something to do with baseball. Unless you’re in some wussy stadium with a roof and then it’s just stupid.
Another up with a terrible zone, but only for the Yankees hitters. Call it BOTH WAYS.
ok maybe its me but that isnt a strike the other way
Hey everybody…boss finally left and gave up the computer. I’m sure it’s been talked about a lot already, but thought I’d give my 2 cents about Alex being benched. If Joe had done it in game 3 I would’ve completely understood it. I even understand it now, Alex is dead against RHP right now…but doing it in a game 5 just SCREAMS desperation in my eyes.
I’m confused. You understand it now but not in Game 5? Which is…now?
I meant to say I understand it to an extent. I guess what I mean is if you take A-Rod’s name out of the conversation and just say “player A” has been killed by RHP this series so I’m going to sit him it makes sense. However I think the fact that it’s Alex changes things.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
The way this offense is hitting I’d say we’re desperate though.
really awful strikezone, only affects the Yankees
Didn’t Wieters get a low strike earlier in this game?
CC has gotten his calls too. It’s has been consistent so far.
The outside strike too?
man i hope we get no hit tonight. that’s the best way to go out at this point.
Jeter has caught the Grandersons….
just bunt …get on damnut
i suggest the grounds crew lower the entire home plate area so the yankees have a chance at making contact with the pitches on the ground they insist on swinging at.
Is it me or do we only swing at pitches outside the strike zone?
Partly because the umpire has had a bad K-zone for both teams.
is this the first inning? lol
another inning like this and its time for the nfl network
it’s hammel’s world we just live in it
Ahh, a Dean Martin allusion, re Frank.
they’ve been fouling off all these good pitches to hit, then rolling over pitchers’ pitchers. so frustrating.
pitches’ pitches*
We are the pitcher’s bitches
Pitchers looking evenly matched so far. Which team wakes up first?
That strike was so far off the plate.
That is not a strike.
(and then he has to chase the 1-1 pitch)
Our very own Vlad Guerrero. I don’t bitch much, but damn Cano swings at a lot of trash when hes off.
I’m starting to think that the fault is with TBS’s strike zone and locater.
Then look at Gameday and see that the umpires really do suck this much
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....type=7.gif
Hammel is pitching well, but once again he is getting a ton of help from the home plate umpire. Many of the swings out of the zone can be tied to pitches earlier in the AB that were called incorrectly, which is burying these hitters.
Are you using the TBS K-zone?
It’s using the exact same data as Gameday, but see for yourself:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....de=classic
I think Tom told me that this K-zone is bad too.
The pitch f/x also shows the ump is shit. Look at my link above.
I’m using Game Day’s K-zone and at least in reference to Robbie’s AB I tend to agree with Matt.
was jeter?
I sure wish they’d get rid of home plate umps and install something similar to hawk eye in tennis.
Hammels – one step closer to immortality
lol
I feel like I’m watching little league. Flailing, off balance swings at everything. No sense of the strike zone. Lots of strikeouts on short counts. Batters beginning to offer even at pitches a foot out of the zone before holding up.
WTF Cano? So frustrating!!!
Didn’t like that pitch, huh Robbie?
Wow, how does Robbie not even swing at that.
1 run wins this game either way. It might take 15 innings to get it. 1 run.
thank you. even the biased, inarticulate booth can see what this joke strike zone is doing to hitters.
wow… this offense just sucks. Nice AB Cano. The idea is to hit the ball.
that would be a great way to cap the season… get no hit in game 5 by a scrub
I agree with the frustration but Hammel isn’t exactly a scrub.
These “scrubs” played the Yankees to a season tie, almost to a tie in runs scored, and now they’re in a game 5, where Hammel is matching CC pitch for pitch.
The Yankee offense is the scrub.
Far more frustrating to me than A-Rod’s woes is Cano’s inability to adjust to the black and white pitching plan the O’s have on him.
man.
Looks like CC will need to keep putting up zeros. Hopefully when the Yankees break out of this it’s not next season!
Off to a bar to watch the rest of the game. Have fun.
Yanks gonna lose. It’s their earned destiny.
What I’ve been feeling.
Let’s just say that neither team really deserves to win but the Yankees are far from losing this scoreless game.
See that pitch looked right down the middle, but TBS located it to the outside edge. I think their locator is absolute crap.
off angle CF camera. pitches will appear further “left” on camera (from CF view) then they really are.
after that strike 3 take…there is no longer a need to discusss umpiring…its inconsequential
Everyone outside of CC has given up.
Jeremy Bonderman all over again.
Were you “expecting” different?
was hoping for something different.
Jesus Christ this could be the greatest choke job by the greatest group of choke artists ever. They are making Hammels look like Walter Johnson.
ok what are the odds of a perfect game by hammell?
12 up 12 down. Perfect game watch?
I wonder if this playoff series can count towards one of the ridiculous years that Boras THINKS Cano deserves.
failure does not equal “giving up”
No hits, no walks… At least that makes the Detroit series a quick 4-0 set.
O’s as a team are having better at bats.
Nice of the umpire to change the zone in the Weiters at bat there. Ball 4 has been called a strike earlier, as well as ball 3.
The 2-1 to Weiters is a strike for Hammel.
So was the 3-1.
The problem is umps will call the pitch outside to lefty hitters much more readily than the outside corner to righties. It has to do with how they setup behind the catcher.
There have been a bunch of studies on this (Mike Fast has done a lot of work), and this is why I can’t stand the “as long as the ump is consistent” garbage, especially when one team has a lefty pitcher and the other has a righty. They face different #’s of lefty and righty hitters so it has an impact on the game.
So…that was supposed to be a strike.
here comes the one and only run
I want Cashman to blow this team up. And I don’t want to see them get even more embarrassed by Detroit. 9 runs in 5 playoff games? A fucking joke.
Crash and burn Yankees. Crash and fucking burn tonight.
GFY
Reasonable.
Ha ha. Needed some humor right now.
THANK THE FREAKIN’ LORD…
Good riddance.
Uh oh. CC’s had a number of 3-ball counts, I think. Now possible trouble with a lead-off walk.
What happened to the team that scored the second most runs?
I mean I really cannot even try to comprehend this. Swisher, Cano, Granderson, and A-Rod with nothing. Lots of strikeouts and easy outs. How do the bats die all of the sudden? How the hell does this happen?
I’m extremely frustrated and confused. This is plain dumb.
Also, that crappy strike zone they’ve had all series wouldn’t matter as much if we could hit the damn ball.
I don’t know if I want to keep watching this, honestly.
Well look at some of the bats they are having if you don’t think the zone matters. Cano has a terrible pitch called on 1-0, then swings through a pitch in a very similar spot for strike 2. So now he’s buried in the count because of the missed strike call, and Hammel finishes him with some tough pitches.
Look at the Nunez AB in game 2. He made an out with the bases loaded and 1 out on the same pitch he got screwed on with a 1-1 count earlier in the at bat.
The hitters are having to expand the zone and swing at pitches they can’t hit because of the umpires. They aren’t hitting well to begin with, but let’s not ignore the effect that these umpires are having. It’s hard to hit a pitch hard when it’s 4 or 5 inches off the plate inside.
Wow. “Watching” on Gameday, looked like CC got shafted on the Wieters walk, esp. compared to some of the earlier calls both ways.
Remember last year against Detroit when the umpire would not give the outside pitch to righties for both teams. Same thing’s happeneing
See you guys tomorrow or next year. Way too much negativity for me.
We don’t win every year. We win more than any other team in baseball. We make the postseason almost every year. For the past 15 years (or more) We have gotten to watch Hall of Famers like Jeter and Mo succeed year after year. We won the division this year despite all the injuries.
This is my team win or lose. I’m not living or dying with every pitch.
Thank you Yankees for the year so far. Even if you flattened during the playoffs (and that remains to be seen), thanks for a great year and for winning the toughest division in baseball YET AGAIN.
Thanks for being the most storied franchise in baseball history.
And if I get to see you play tomorrow, great. If not, see you in spring training and look forward to another great season then.
And I’m out for tonight. See you tomorrow or when some weird off-season thing goes on. Thanks all.
A rational man says goodnight to the rest of us.
I’m ashamed dude. You really have no faith?
Thats just sad.
No faith in this game thread. In the Yankees, always. Reread.
He has faith in the Yankees, not the fanbase that exists on these boards of late. Frankly I agree with him, but I’ve got nothing better to do.
I think he means he’s gonna stop reading this game thread. I don’t blame him. 90% of the posts here are a buncha ingrate whining babies who thinks the Yankees should win every goddamn game 10 to nothing.
Its horrible.
well said.
Let CC hit.
Im sure glad CC is pitching like the Yankees ace this series.
CC is nasty
Nice inning.
Let’s hope the bats wake up soon.
You are all forgetting. They can’t hit a lick either.
Did Cano miss 2nd there?
They miss it a lot. The umps just give it to them.
I think he touched the back corner of the bag. It was weird since he didn’t step on top of the bag. I rewound and watched it a few times but you couldn’t tell for sure.
Please Yankees score some damn runs
Tex is gonna bomb one I can feeeeeeeeel it.
If the Yankees win this game will you you whining losers leave and not come back?
You are making this thread unbearable.
I completely agree. We haven’t lost yet. Hell, we’re not even losing. And we have CC on the mound. Wheres the faith?
how are they so terrible?
But answer the question. If the umps are doing this deliberately, then why?
MLB’s irrational hatred for the Yankees. They (the Yankees) make more money for the sport than any other team but every owner, Front Office person, and player not on the Yankees seem to despise them.
Yankees will score in this inning, watch
If there was ever a time to bunt
Surely Ibanez can’t bunt too?
lol wut?
a hit!!!
yay tex
Yay Tex. Lets get going!
THERE WILL BE NO PERFECT GAME.
a hit!!!
OMG a hit!
Score some runs Yanks!
thats the best TEX MESSAGE we’re getting at this point.
Remember, last time Hammel has made it 6 full innings was 7/7. He might start to tire soon.
He threw over 100 pitches in his last start, and just hit 60. Don’t hold your breath. They’ll have to beat him.
Cant complain about Tex. Maybe no power but a near .500 OBP for the series.
Good let’s get some pressure on hammel!
Teixera has done his part. Now it’s time for Ibanez, Granderson and Swisher to do theirs.
and so it begins…
GET LOUD FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tex!!!!
bunt!
Wow.
Tex on wheels!
whaaat?!?!? amazing
Wow!!!!! Credit to Tex!
How awesome is that?
HAHA tex with a SB!
I can’t believe that.
Can you believe that shit, wow!
Did I just see Tex steal?
ABOUT DAMN TIME Teix.
If they are playing behind you, and you aren’t hurt, you have to take the free base.
“no fear of him going..” Teix steals second..
OMG what did I just see. Someone wake me up Texeira just stole 2nd base.
Holy crap! Me likey. Can we bring him home though?
jose molina just swiped one…
+1
Teixera is playing his heart out on one leg. Someone get that man in!
Sending teix? gutsy call
Tex with a SB!! Against Weiters!!
Good, now I can leave. Tex stealing has to be a good sign.
Hope my dinner crowd who hates baseball doesn’t mind me paying no attention to them for the next two hours.
Dude..on a game 5 you blow of your non baseball friends!!
Baseball fans or not, I blow all of my friends…if ya know what I mean.
blow off* (that’s very nice of you though, would you like to be my friend?)
YES! HIGH FIVES HAHAHA.
ballsy!
love it!
Rickey Teixeira!
haha
I thought for sure that Tex would be thrown out. Ballsy move.
Yeah, I was cringing as Wieters threw down. He just made it, too.
Imagine if he hadn’t, we’d be KILLING Girardi.
giaradi has balls of mother fucking steel
don’t think Girardi had anything to do with that
Voldemort, work your magic here.
PLease get a base hit Raul!
Really wish swish wasn’t so high up in the lineup. He scares me.
Have to think that was Tex running on his own.
My guess/speculation is he and Girardi talked and probably said “if you can get a big jump, go”
RAHHH OOOOOOL!
RAAAAULLLL
take that, you miserable fucks.
They scored a run with a RISP! RAUL! RAUL!
RAUL!!! LORD VOLDEMORT!!!!!!!
Am I dreaming??? RAUUUUUL!
VOLDEMORT LIVES!
RAUUUULLLLL! You are my hero!
Raul!!!!!!!
RAUL MOTHERFUCKING IBANEZ!!!
So freaking mad. Still at work because some douche customer won’t shut the hell up with her questions (for my coworker, not me). We closed 25 minutes ago.
So…still stuck on the radio. Tex stole? WTF?
Heads up baserunning since Rark Meynolds wasn’t holding him at 1st. Raul singled him in.
Gracias, amigo.
Yes!! And just scored on a Ibanez base hit!
Apparently…according to Sterling just now it was Ibanez though. It’s insane he got on base, stole second then knocked himself in!!! Most impressive baseball I’ve ever heard!
Rauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul
VOLDY!
Motherfucking RAAAAUUUULLLL!
RAH
OOL
voldemort!!! girardi is god!
Raul Ibanez is responsible for 175% of the Yankees’ runs this series.
raul be seeing you in the alcs!!!
Easy now
RAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLL
RISP HITS! Fuck yes.
Praise the dark lord
There’s your luck. Ibanez pulls an outside pitch on the ground, it bounces and it finds the hole for an RBI single.
Amazing that clueless Girardi has not started Ibanez since Game 1
He’s starting him against righties. Raul has a tough time against lefties.
Did he have a good Game 1?
Listen how quiet the booth got. Pathetic.
schmoltz just took a xanax
only if that had been arod instead!
Dear everyone in Yankee stadium,
Get super loud right now!
Did one of the Yankees stab the ump in the ear in retaliation for the strike zone?
Athens, Georgia or Athens, Greece?
maybe everyone can relax a bit now and they’ll open the flood gates
I knew they would score this inning
i would bunt swisher
it’s come to that
LOL talk about rally killer
Swisher the rally killer.
#toomucheyeblack
Swish you fucking suck! GTFO
Might be Swish’s last game in a Yankee uniform. Thank fucking God. He sucks dick.
Rally-killing double-play? By the Yankees? Never!
Swisher doing what he does best, making outs when the pressure is on
want to puke. Why, why why is swish so high in the lineup?!
This offense is so stagnant it doesn’t matter how high he bats. As long as it’s not in the top 4.
Damn you Swish! Damn you rally-killer!
Smoltz hit the nail on the head there:
“Jammed himself”
Swisher got a fastball right down the middle and not only completely missed it, but he jammed himself and hit into a DP.
HR swings from every player, trying to pull everything…
And nick swisher still sucks
The WORST hitter in MLB postseason history ladies and gentlemen. Hooray Nick Swisher.
I don’t believe what I just saw
This K zone is ridiculous.
Unfortunately, that 1 run might be all we get so now the burden shifts to CC. He needs to pitch a shutout.
raul and tex, two of the only productive yanks, come thru again.
Damn, wish Swish had bunted. Le sigh.
Was that Gardner?
Did Grandy just get a hit? Pinch me.
Granderson starting to come around it seems. His swings have looked much better today, and even his AB’s last night were starting to improve.
Swisher = automatic out in postseason
including game 1?
Worst post season hitter ever
Naturally Grandy follows the DP with a hit.
Rather him make another out??
Another ridiculous 0-1 strike call to make a 1-1 count 0-2
Good job by Grandy to overcome that.
So he CAN make contact!
granderson’s probably like, “shit if they can bench a-rod, im just a shitty defensive 200 K a year pull hitter”
Hopefully that thought is put into both his and Swisher’s head.
run, curtis, run!
…middle of game 5 of ALDS with his team just scoring the go ahead run…John Sterling is describing the skies above the stadium.
Granderson on a mission to get his average above A-Rods. Swisher on a mission to kill our good spirits.
Tbs jumping the gun. On commercials.
Random Springsteen snippet cued during the broadcast.
Grandysteal!
Alright…time for the commute. Hope the lead is bigger by the time I get home.
Tell me you have the At Bat 12 App. Come on man, step your fan game up.
Gardner’s still standing at first base.
Okay, we got one. Time for CC to hold it.
6 straight sliders… and he makes an out.