Black Friday Open Thread

Marchand: Kuroda left money on the table to re-sign with Yankees
King: Ichiro willing to wait to re-sign with Yankees

I’m completely out of leftovers already, which really sucks. Usually I hope to grab enough to last until at least Saturday, but the pickin’s were slim this year because the family gathering was bigger than usual. Such is life. I didn’t dare venture out into the Black Friday shopping madness, but my brother said he bought the latest Call of Duty for $25. That’s pretty awesome considering games run $60+ these days.

Anyway, here is your open thread for the evening. Both the Knicks and Nets are playing tonight, but you folks know how these things work by now. Talk about whatever’s on your mind.

Marchand: Kuroda left money on the table to re-sign with Yankees
King: Ichiro willing to wait to re-sign with Yankees
  • JohnnyBGoode

    Got a pair of Air Jordans for 50 bucks on
    It was already on clearance plus I added a 25% off coupon and free shipping code to it.
    Anybody come across good deals? I missed out on Amazon’s $25 video game thing.

    • MannyGeee

      The Puma outlet near me had 50% off store wide, so that was pretty dope. I was well overdue for some running sneakers, and couldn’t do the new balance thing as I’m not a middle aged dude or anything…

      Outside of that, I pretty much followed my wife through the dregs of society looking for new boots. Not the best use of a day.

      I went by the Best By near my office ON WEDNESDAY AT 1PM and there was a dude already camped out with his tent… There is something wrong with society.

      • Bo Knows

        There were people who had already camped out since Monday

  • Steve (different one)

    It’s a good thing I am not the GM as I now, not 100% rationally, want Ichiro back. This is awesome:–mlb.html

    • JLC 776

      I love stories of classy players doing incredibly classy things. Wonderful!

    • Matt

      Great guy and good player. Good fit for the Yankees.

    • Stratman9652

      I’ll admit I had Ichiro all wrong. I always thought he was a bit of a douche. Turns out he is a really cool dude.

    • RetroRob

      Great gesture.

      His writing style is pretty wild. I imagine it might have something to do with writing kanji characters all his life leads to much more precise lettering.

  • JLC 776

    Gorgeous day outside (suburbs of Philly) for putting up lights. Glad I took advantage. Time to wash down some leftovers with a nice Weyerbacher.

  • Herby

    So…no Nick Swisher Black Friday deal, figure he’d kick down an extra 3-5 mil off a contract for a guaranteed extra year. Would be pretty interesting to see a player offer something like that and see if a team bites on it. Hamilton would make for a real interesting case…might even be able to throw in his own home brew along with it.

    • Mattchu12

      Sadly, if Gomes, aka a defensively challenged wrong-side-of-the-platoon outfielder, can get 5 million from Boston, I think Swisher might be able to get 15 million per year.

      I’ve been serectly hoping he’d take like 12M per for 3 years and come back to the Bronx after sniffing around the market, hoping other teams would be in money-saving mode too, but it looks like there’s gunna be some big bucks handed out this offseason.

      • MannyGeee

        Yeah, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Swisher ended up signing for 5/82.5 somewhere. Considering the market, he is well worth that kind of money.

        That said, I would also not be surprised if he sat out there for a while waiting for the Yankees to make an offer worth signing. Beyond the October troubles, I think he knows he’s had it damn good in New York, better than he did under Ozzie in Chicago. Not that that makes all that much of a difference, but he knows better than anyone that the environment matters.

        • Mattchu12

          When your competition is Josh Hamilton and all of his injuries and off-field issues, the not-yet realized-and-perhaps-never-will-be potential of BJ Upton, and playing-way-over-his-head Angel Pagan, I think Swish has to be considered one of most bankable outfielders on the market right now.

          You know he isn’t going to fall off a cliff for at least another two years, he’s rock solid at the plate and in the field, and he can play multiple positions. I wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up getting 15M+ per year and at least 4 years.

          Having said that, still have a small hope for 12-13M per for 3 years in NY.

        • Hitman 23

          It’s a shame that Swisher will end up somewhere else. I think he is about to get a strong dose of playing somewhere see with no cameras in his face. The guy loved the NY spotlight. I will never understand why guys won’t take a little less to play with the Yanks. If I was a player and got a little less than I could have made somewhere else to play with the Yanks, I could certainly live a nice life. I would guess that most of the players in MLB did not come from millionaire households, so when is enough enough. I am quite sure I could make 5 million a year for ten years and live comfortably for the rest of my life and my children’s lives. It’s funny to hear a player turn down 50-75 million cause it’s not enough. It’s actually sickening.

          • Steve (different one)

            The previous thread was about a guy taking less to play for the Yankees….

          • RetroRob

            I’m sure you can, I can, we all can, but if someone offers him 4/$60M or 5/$75M, why would he take 3/$30M from the Yankees, leaving up to $45M in guaranteed money behind? Can’t assume money will be there in three years to make up some that was left behind. Chone Figgins can advise of that. Baseball is a combination of the entertainment and business, but unlike people in the movie industry, sports athletes know their peak earning years are done at some point in their 30s. A very few make it to their 40s. Swisher won’t be one of those.

            Swish is a good player, at times a very good player, but not an elite player. As Klaw noted, “passive-style” hitters like Swisher who try to work themselves into fastball counts don’t necessarily age well once they begin losing bat speed, yet he’s probably a good bet to remain productive for the next three years. I’d welcome him back on a three-year deal, his age 32-34 seasons. He’ll most likely be a little less productive, but still a solid contributor. I’d be uncomfortable going beyond that, certainly not five years.

            Swisher may leave some money on the table, but it won’t be $45M. My guess is the Yankees believe Swisher is gone, but they are no doubt monitoring the market to see if there is an opening. The whole market now is stalled in a stare-off, waiting for someone to make a move.

          • Ted Nelson

            “A little less” in these cases is far more than the average person will make in a lifetime.

            It’s sickening? They are the ones who drive the revenue in MLB. Why should they take less money so that the owners can get more money?

            • TomH


              • Ted Nelson

                They should create the value in MLB and then give it to the owners? Do you follow MLB for the owners, or the players?

                • Preston

                  The owners do a very good job of selling fans on the idea that greedy players drive up the cost of games. Supply and demand dictates the price of the ticket. Paying players less wouldn’t affect ticket prices one cent, it would only line owner’s pockets more.

  • Stratman9652

    I think there should be an MLB free agent black friday sale. Just saying.

  • Logan

    Best part of that video?

    Michael Kay effing up the line after Cano’s second HR

  • The Real Greg

    Rumors are coming out that the Yanks have picked up Scott Hairston 2 years, 7 million

    • radnom

      Source? Its not on mlbtr.

    • Pat D

      Where? I’m not seeing anything.

      • Remy

        I think yankees should get Reynolds or Hairston to DH. Jeter Ichiro cano granderson arod tex Reynolds Martin gardner