Heyman: Pettitte expected to decide on 2013 by next week

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Via Jon Heyman: Andy Pettitte is expected to decide whether he’ll return to pitch next season by the end of next week. He cites a “friend” of Pettitte, so take the report with a big grain of salt. Less than a week ago a “friend” indicated that Hiroki Kuroda preferred to pitch in Southern California, and we know how that turned out.

Earlier this week we heard that the 40-year-old Pettitte could give the team a “timetable” soon, and I suppose this qualifies. Most expect Andy to return next year after a big chunk of his 2012 comeback was wiped out by a fluke leg injury, but that’s not a guarantee. The Yankees would have to give the veteran left-hander a hefty raise over the $2.5M he earned this year, but I don’t think that’ll be much of an issue since it figures to be a one-year contract that would not impact the 2014 payroll plan.

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  • Travis L.

    Think we will see another 1 year/$15 mill contract? Identical to Kuroda’s?

    • Mike HC

      Pettitte probably deserves it, but considering Kuroda is coming off a much better, injury free season, I think he will get less. Maybe with more incentives though.

  • dan gen

    just sign him already….stop the bs

    • http://www.twitter.com/matt__harris Matt :: Sec110

      they want to…he hasn’t told the Yanks if he’s coming back or not.

      • DC

        It’s Dan Gen…reasonable thought is out the window.

    • Get Phelps Up

      one eighty nine…

  • Blake

    Love Andy….but I hope this is true and he just decides already….either way Cashman needs closure on it ASAP so he can get to other things……

    • Bartolo I Hurt My Colon

      Yes, I don’t really know what’s so hard about deciding to pitch or not. I think he uses that as a tactic to get more money or leverage when negotiating a new deal. Don’t get me wrong ;I love Andy, but it’s really tiresome to go through this year after year.

      • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

        You really think it’s a ploy for more money? The guy is 40 years old and has a family that doesn’t live in the New York area. He’s also very close with that family, and probably (maybe even subconsciously) feels guilty for not being a “regular dad” for 8.5 months out of the year for the past two decades. Add on top of that the amount of effort and work that goes into being an effective pitcher at his age against the best hitters in the world? Shit I’m dirt poor and I could see why it’s a difficult decision, money be damned.

        • OldYanksFan

          I think it is a bit of a ploy.
          His family told him last year TO PITCH.
          Do you really think it matters if he retires at 40 or 41?
          The guy is a miltimillionaire, and has 30 years to spend with his family. He is set for life.

          But he only has ONE chance to play professional baseball.
          One chance for another Ring.
          One last chance to say goodbye.

          He has had since he went on the DL to think about this.
          Does he really NOT know yet?

          • Havok9120

            One chance to play pro ball? He’s been doing it for two decades. Two. Decades.

            I mean, even if you want to disregard the family stuff (you shouldn’t), how excited are you to go into your grueling, travel intensive, often confidence shattering day job after 20 years of it? Just because that lifestyle is novel and exciting to us doesn’t mean we should ascribe the same feeling to him.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              You forgot the “when you said yes last time, you wond up on crutches for two months” part.

        • Herby

          Yes, poor, poor Andy…I want him to pitch, but the feeling sorry for him and his family and the time he has to spend away from them is a reach. If you compare the time most regular parents have to spend commuting over the course of the lives of their children it barely matches the 8+ months Andy has had to work over the course of time he’s been a parent. Being able to retire at his age and health he has, what he can contribute to his children, the opportunities he can give him…it doesn’t match with what a regular parent has to go through, not even close. He’s a great pitcher, Great Yankee, and a great family man, but I’m not about to feel sorry for him.

      • pinchhitter

        Not to mention that dawdling last year cost him 8.5 million.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        No, it’s not.

    • Ted Nelson

      Waiting for Andy does only so much to limit Cashman’s other decisions. Forcing things early in the offseason is just not his best move in a lot of cases. Waiting allows you to see how the market develops, rather than rushing to sign guys for their initial, inflated demands.

      • Ted Nelson

        Think of it this way… Assume Cashman works 8 hours a day and has a staff working 8 hours a day each. How many of those hours do you think they spend waiting around to see if Andy re-signs? I would bet very few. I would bet they are spending most of their time considering options not only for the rotation if Andy retires, but also for RF, C, DH, the bench, Rule 5… etc.

  • The Real Eddard

    Excellent news. He would shore up the rotation and allow them to address the OF. Bring Ichiro back on a cheap deal before the winter meetings.

  • Knoxvillain

    He’s coming back. If he was going to retire he would have already announced it. He’s probably going to end up with a 1/10 with 2 million or incentives or something like that.


    Sounds good to me. If only they could get King Felix…

  • The Moral Majority is Neither

    Assuming Pettitte comes back (don’t care about the money), the pitching staff should be set other than NRIs, injured veterans, etc.

    This gives Cashman plenty of time to wait for a catcher and an OFer or two to fall into his lap, either via an unexpected trade offer or a free agent willing to take a 1-year deal at a premium.

  • Blake

    I don’t really think Andy drags it out for more money……I think he really is torn between pitching and staying with his family…..which on one hand is good because once he does decide you know he’s all in….but it’s also annoying because it sorta puts the team on hold waiting on him to decide.

    Last year Andy was sorta a bonus….this year they really need him and if he opts against pitching then Cashman probably has to go after somebody else…..so a quick decision would be helpful so he could then address the holes at C, RF, and DH

    • Steve (different one)

      True, but it IS still November. If he decides next week, this is perfectly reasonable and pretty early all things considered.

      • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

        My question would be that, at this point in Andy’s career, what could possibly change between this week and next that would affect his decision? He’s been playing pro-ball since 1991. He knows the deal by now.

        • http://www.twitter.com/matt__harris Matt :: Sec110

          why does it matter? He’s not preventing them from signing anyone else.

          • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

            We don’t know that for sure. I do know it’s annoying to have a bunch of unchecked to-do items on one’s list.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Are you saying Cashman’s going to wake up tomorrow and be all, “fuck! I’m out of cream cheese!?”

              The Yankees can multitask.

              • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

                No. But don’t fool yourself that thinking just because they can “multitask” it doesn’t mean the longer this goes on, the more it can stand in the way of other plans. Maybe the five-man rotation many have outlined with and without Pettitte is NOT necessarily the ideal rotation in the eyes of the front office.

                Everyone is acting like Pettitte is just another arm. No. If he comes back, he’s going to be an important piece of the rotation, not the #5 starter. If he’s not coming back, that’s a big piece to fill. The fall-back is Phelps who is currently a #5 starter/long reliever. That’s a big drop-off and a big question mark. You know pretty much what you’re getting with Andy. Seems to me that’s an important piece to fill.

                • Ted Nelson

                  What does that have to do with RF, C, DH, or the bench? Chill. It’s more annoying to rush into poor decisions than to have unfinished business that you’ll get to in good time.

            • Get Phelps Up

              They went through all of last offseason knowing that Andy might be coming back. They can manage.

              • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

                Last year they had the rotation candidates set before Pettitte showed up in February. Remember, he was the 7th man “competing” for a rotation spot last spring.

                • Get Phelps Up

                  He was guaranteed a rotation spot as soon as he signed. He wasn’t competing for anything.

                  Either way, I’m sure that the Yankees won’t let an indecisive Pettitte get in the way of fielding a good team next year. If he hasn’t made up his mind by a certain day and they have to proceed as if he isn’t coming back, fine. And he’ll be a huge upgrade if he decides late in the offseason to return.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Meh. It’s a tough decision no matter what. None of us live in his head.

  • http://www.twitter.com/matt__harris Matt :: Sec110

    Figure Andy back, looks like Raul is back. They are basically still looking for a RF or 2 and another INF utility guy.

    Oh and every day until April 1st Cashman should call Miami’s GM/Owner and offer the farm for Giancarlo.

    • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

      Couldn’t agree more about Stanton. Since the Marlins decided they don’t want to put a competitive team on the field for the next few years, I’ve been hoping that Cashman is pestering the Marlins daily for Stanton and letting them know NO ONE is off the table.

      • Steve (different one)

        29 teams are telling the Marlins the same thing.

        • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

          So that means Cashman should give up and waive the white flag?

  • Dropped Third

    Even if andy signs i would want the yankees to add another starter. Between hiroki and c.c’s work load and pettitte’s age there are injury risks. Also there is a risk that two of nova, hughes and phelps wont pitch well enough to hold rotation spots. A couple minor leauge vets would sufice I guess but I would like to see a dependable back end starter. Dont know who that would be at market prices though…

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I agree that having someone (or more than one guy if we can get MiLB deals for them) in the Freddy role would be wise.

      I’m also not that in love with either putting Phelps at five or watching either a Nova/Pineda comeback that I wouldn’t look into Haren for the four/five slot if he’d take a one-yer deal.

      Not in response to you directly, but the Yankees really can wait for Andy like they have other years. The hurry seems to be ours as fans. Like lash year, that insurance guy the team brings in, worst case, could be Andy himself.

      Hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving.

    • bulasteve

      Why is everyone forgetting Pineda? He should be back by June.

      • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

        That’s “June” according to Yankee reports, which are usually inaccurate and on the optimistic side. Plus, it’s hard to tell how someone’s going to respond to a surgery. It would be irresponsible for the front office to count on Pineda as a rock solid, sure thing to come back and contribute at any point in 2013. They have to plan for the worst.

        • TomH

          Exactly so.

    • Ted Nelson

      Why is a guy who can get a guaranteed rotation spot elsewhere signing with the Yankees to compete with Hughes, Nova, and Phelps… Who are all solid back of the rotation candidates in their own rights?

  • RetroRob

    Still find it interesting that the media message has consistently been that it’s believed Pettitte will pitch in 2013, yet then we keep hearing he’ll make his decision soon, which means he doesn’t seem to know himself!

    Maybe Andy basically told the Yankees he was coming back in October, but that he wanted a month to basically confirm that’s what he’ll do. Makes no sense otherwise.

  • Get Younger When

    Hey Andy sure no problem let the Yankees kiss your a s s and handcuff them so they can;t make any moves because they don’t know what you wanna do thanks Andy!

    When do you Yankees wanna get younger what’s Andy going to do pitch for one more year at an over priced price tag? I mean they talk about getting younger but never do it while Anibal Sanchez sits out there.

    Why not spend the money on Anibal Sanchez that you’re going to put out for Andy you can prob pay Anibal Sanchez for two years for the one you’re going to give Andy.

    • Brain Dead

      I see my army grows.

    • Ted Nelson


    • Preston

      Andy is probably better than Anibal, will get paid less next season and not be signed for 3-5 years after that. Pitching is volatile, I like signing one year contracts with veteran pitchers. It keeps the roster flexible. The point of getting younger is to have less injury and decline. Having one year deals accomplishes the same thing because as soon as they can’t contribute you let them go. I think the Yankees should continue to create their rotation with young guys from within and aging veterans looking to win on one year deals (Johan Santana next off-season maybe), big FA dollars should only go to the super elite guys like CC.