Dec
22

Saturday Night Open Thread

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I know it’s frickin’ freezing (and windy) out, but I hope everyone has had a wonderful Saturday. Neither of the basketball locals are in action tonight, but talk about whatever you like here. Have at it.

Categories : Open Thread
  • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

    Top 30 most intimidating players on MBLn right now…the clip of an older Nolan Ryan beating Robin Ventura like the red headed step child of a rented mule is just hysterical.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      LOL, Manny Ramirez and freaking Ortiz made this list. MLB Network loves Boston. You can name 20 hitters on the top of your head better than those two. And none of them are intimidating outside the game. Fucking ridiculous.

      • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

        Idk, as a Yankee fan of the 00’s there are few hitters I dreaded seeing with runners on base more than the likes of Ortiz and Manny. Also…no I cant name 20 better hitters than Manny off the top of my head. I hate him, and Papi, but outside of A-Rod and Pujols Manny is the best Righty I’ve ever seen.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I’d say they were pretty terrifying. Yes.

        • jjyank

          Agreed. I freaking hated seeing either of those two come to bat for so much of my life. I was intimidated as a fan.

        • MannyGeee

          +1… Manny Ramirez was an absolute animal back then. I mean talk about a dude who was always on, there was a period from 2002 -2006 where he was just unreal.

          David Ortiz, to a lesser exten,t was that way… But no one was meaner than vintage mid-aughts Manny Ramirez

          • hogsmog

            Yes. Manny actually going through an at-bat against the Yankees with RISP was just a formality; you knew they were going to score.

      • Jacob

        I hate ortiz so much but I can honestly say that my heart goes nuts everytime he steps up to bat.

      • YanksFanInBeantown

        Manny Ramirez is the 21st best hitter of all time by wRC+, tied with Hank Aaron, and the 25th best by wRC. I am seriously impressed if you can name the 20 better hitters off the top of your head

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Ronnie Mustellier?

          • Jacob

            +21 Future HOFer Ronnie Mustellier

        • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

          man, now I’m looking at all time lists…Babe Ruth was just unheard of good. A Career ISO of .348, career wOBA of .512, and career wRC+ of 197….like what the fuck? how are you THAT MUCH BETTER than your peers? How?

          • Pat D

            The three B’s, of course.

            Brats, booze and broads.

        • Jacob

          Ruth, Ted Williams, Lou Gehrig, Willie Mays, Ty Cobb, Bonds, A-Rod, Pujols, Mantle, Griffey Jr, Sosa, Musial, Joe D, McGuire, Schmidt, Brett, Greenberg, Mel Ott, Kaline, Killebrew, Thome???? I started taking long shots after Mantle haha.

          • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

            The only one you got right after Mantle is Greenberg, and Greenberg is tied w/ Manny but listed above him.

            • Jacob

              Yea I just started throwing out the first names popping in my head. How many did I get overall?

            • Jacob

              I think I got Ott too.

              • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

                You did, I missed him because his name was separated on your list, including him, 11.

                • Jacob

                  Hawt damn, I am proud of myself for that

            • TomH

              He got Musial wrong? Surely not. I’d be mighty surprised if Musial wasn’t in the top 10, unless he’s waiting for Pujols’ continued decline to get him back up there.

          • Stevie Beef

            Mccovey. Frank Robinson. Bagwell. Foxx. Reggie. Banks. Clemente. Helton. Palmeiro.

            • MannyGeee

              Whoa…. Bagwell, Helton & Palmiero? Better than Manny Ramirez?

              What? Da Fuck???

              • Stevie Beef

                My question is…who the fuck is dan breathers
                ?

  • Laz

    Nice to know Northern CT didn’t steal all the nice weather.

  • turd surfer

    Stolmy Pimentel? Say what you wasn’t about the Yankees prospect hype machine but the Sox do alright in that department too.

  • MannyGeee

    So maybe I’m late to the party on this…. But this is goddam hilarious. BIG props to the music of my Adolescence..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....038;sns=em

    • Jacob

      COMMON! Oh DMX, you are one of a kind

      • Jacob

        COME ON*

    • jjyank

      If I were throwing a Christmas party, this would just play on an endless loop all night.

      • Dan Gold

        You forgot your favorites:

        Wake Me Up (before you Go go)

        Any Bieber tune

        • Jacob

          This time it was not me JJ I swear.

          • jjyank

            It’s cool. I consider it an honor that I am well regarded enough to have my own groupie. Even if it’s a creepy guy in his mom’s basement.

            • Jacob

              I would have come up with something better than bieber tunes, although i admit it made me chuckle

    • LitFig

      WHAT!

  • Kevin

    I was at this game, one of only 2 playoff games I’ve been lucky enough to go to. Amazingly both of them ended on throwing errors in extra innings.

  • Brian S.

    Who are the other players in the Hanrahan deal? Why is Neal Huntington such a douchebag?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I look forward to the Sox bullpen again failing miserably next season.

    • MannyGeee

      Hanrahan is the textbook definition of “guy who everyone thinks is really good because they get numbers somewhere hidden, but NO ONE knows how much they suck because no ones really seen him throw”

      Also see Mark Melancon.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Who is going to Pittsburgh in the trade, apparently. That’s hilarious.

        • MannyGeee

          Fuck…. That’s just awesome…. Josh Reddick is apparently just becoming a bunch of phantom closers in a row.

          • MannyGeee

            Errr Jed Lowrie.

  • Jacob

    JH Jr. Clip? RT having an orgasm is soon to follow.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Me? Orgasm over Jerry Jr.? I liked him, but let’s not go that far.

      • Jacob

        I know I already did

        • Robinson Tilapia

          You’re young, Jacob. These things happen.

        • jjyank

          I hear stuart a has an extensive supply of extra pants. He hasn’t been around lately, I’m sure he left some spares.

          • Jacob

            I think he probablly shit himself in every pair, I would rather not.

            • jjyank

              No shit, just semen. He liked parades a bit too much, you see.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                I got yer confetti right here.

                • Jacob

                  Everytime he sees arod

                • jjyank

                  …..your a punch and judy commenter…..

                  ….

                  ..

        • Jacob

          Damnit, you caught my secret

        • Jacob

          Damnit, you caught my secret

  • Robinson Tilapia

    That previous thread killed brain cells.

    • jjyank

      Apologies for taking it too seriously.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I drove by late and left some replies.

        My favorite line, of course, was referring to Hal as in over his head.

        I remember once implying that I could do a better job than one of my bosses. This was years ago. He looked right at me and said, “do you really think you could do a better job than me, because I’d love to see that.” I think I learned my lesson there.

        • jjyank

          At least in that situation, you were in that industry as an employee. We’re a bunch of regular guys (and Erica, Betty, and vicki) who watch baseball as a hobby. The psychoanalysis some people do on Hal is flabbergasting sometimes.

          In other news, I vow to start using that word more. Flabbergasting. Awesome.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Not as awesome as “tomfoolery.” I love that word.

            • jjyank

              Best part of the presidential elections? Biden using the word “malarky”. I want to use that more often.

              • Pat D

                I think “bullshit” is much more succinct.

              • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

                That was seriously the best moment of all 4 debates combined. I laughed out loud, especially because when translated into post-1940s speak he was basically saying “no, you’re full of shit.”

                • Pat D

                  He was looking at Paul Ryan but still seeing Sarah Palin.

                  Wait a minute, strike that. He was seeing Paul Ryan.

                • jjyank

                  It was the best moment. I was cracking up when the moderator asked him to explain and he just said “It’s….just a bunch of…stuff.”

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  I liked the “oh, that’s a bunch of stuff” line better and the consistent referring to Ryan as “my friend here….” which was about half a step away from “listen to this fucking twit….”

                  I love Joe Biden in a completely non-partisan, let’s-not-talk-politics way.

                  • jjyank

                    Have you seen “Lincoln”? What I loved most about that movie is how much I wish the Congress was still actually like that, with all the insults back and worth. I found it hilarious. Joe Biden is my modern embodiment of that, so I think he’s the fucking bomb.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      I haven’t seen shit. Supposed to see “The Hobbit” tomorrow, which will mark the first time I’ve stepped in a movie theater since watching “Bridesmaids” before my son was even born. Movie theaters just haven’t been a “spare time” priority.

                      I plan on making time for “This is 40″ and that other hilarious-looking one (“Movie 43″ or something like that?) coming out in January.

                      Lincoln WILL be a rental first chance I get.

                    • jjyank

                      I feel ya. Definitely watch it when it comes out though, it was really great. Knowing that you’re into that kind of stuff, you’d love it. And when you do watch it, I’m sure you could picture Biden in the thick of that Congress.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      I’ve always wanted to read the book it was based on. I love presidential history.

                    • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

                      I saw both Hobbit and Lincoln on the same day earlier this week, dude the Hobbit was good but see Lincoln instead. I will be in utter shock if it doesn’t clean up at least Best Drama, Best Screenplay, and Best Lead Actor at the Oscars. It should also probably get Best Set(if that’s a thing) and Best Supporting Actor/Actress for Sally Field.

                    • MannyGeee

                      “This is 40″ looks brilliant.

                    • Pat D

                      Re: Lincoln/Oscars.

                      There are two things that could it hold it back. One is Zero Dark Thirty. It’s practically sweeping the critics awards. However, now lawmakers are speaking against some of the scenes in it, so that could spur a backlash.

                      The bigger obstacle, frankly, is Les Miserables. You’re talking practically the biggest musical adaptation maybe in the history of movies. The Oscars seem to go head over heels for successful musicals when they have actually cropped up over the last few decades, even if they’re mediocre (*cough*Chicago*cough*). But it also has definite feminine appeal, which Lincoln only has to a certain extent, and which most of the other more talked about movies don’t seem to have quite as much. Never underestimate the power of the female Oscar vote. It’s how we ended up with things like The English Patient, Titanic, Shakespeare in Love, Chicago and Slumdog Millionaire winning Best Picture.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      Can’t hold back on “The Hobbit.” My Father-in-law’s a Tolkien nut. This is almost a family tradition.

  • Pat D

    I love that clip for so many reasons. First of all, it was another tremendously awful play by the fundamentally sound Angels in that series. Remember the pop fly falling between, I think, Figgins and Aybar in Game 1? Definitely an lol.

    But even more so, Scioscia in the post game was all like, “I don’t know why he was trying to get 2 there.”

    After 2002 and 2005 I was just so happy to see the Angels get theirs.

  • Jacob

    Pat I don;t know if you are scrolling through here but hope your feeling better man, Cheer up! I have been in some sort of a funk for months so I know the feeling

    • jjyank

      Girl problems, eh? You’ll be fine. Pretty sure you’re younger than me anyways.

      +1 on Pat. He’ll be alright, transition is hard sometimes.

      • Jacob

        Yea, something like that but i’ll be fine. And yea it can be some hard stuff.

        • jjyank

          I’ve been having girl problems for the last 7 months. Happens to the best of us.

          • Jacob

            Yup, sucks majorly too

            • jjyank

              Not so much problems with new girls, just getting over my now ex of almost 3 years. Just happens though.

              • Jacob

                it is just great when they come back and tell you that they still love you just when you thought you wer starting to get over them

              • dalelama

                No surprise there. Stop moaning about some broad who dumped you three years ago and grow a pair. I knew you were a loser.

                • jjyank

                  lol one sentence? How about you grow a pair and move out of your mom’s basement.

          • Dan Gold

            Can you blame them???

            • Pat D

              I’m starting to picture you in The Silence of the Lambs, dancing to “Goodbye Horses.”

            • Jacob

              Woah, when I commented as DG it was creepy funny rapist, but you are just a complete dick.

      • MannyGeee

        If you’re having girl problems I feel bad for ya son…

        /Jigga’d

        • Jacob

          I was waiting for someone to do that, thank you

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I held back. I must admit.

            • MannyGeee

              I couldn’t resist.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    So why are the Mariners collecting DH’s now?

  • Blake

    @Ken_Rosenthal: Source: Ibanez in agreement with #Mariners.

    Farewell Raul

    • Jacob

      Thank you based god

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Fine with that. Never saw him as more than a one-year thing.

    • Get Phelps Up

      Eddard must feel crushed.

    • MannyGeee

      Yikes… Thanks for the clutchiness Raul, may your knees not turn to vasoline after playing 150 games in the Outfield in SafeCo field.

  • Pat D

    Thanks for the well wishes everyone. I did a little unnecessary shopping and errand running today and it helped reaffirm my beliefs that I love Christmas time. Everywhere I went there was little to no parking, crowds that had to be traversed and people to be dodged, and horrible driving to both get frustrated by and yell at endlessly. But through it all, I still got the sense that all the people were doing those things they feel compelled to do at this time of year (and let’s face it, ONLY this time of year), but were doing it in generally good spirits. Considering some of the horrible things that have happened this year, and particularly in the last two months (no, I don’t mean the election, my side won), I think it’s a testament to the human spirit. And it proves that we’re all just a little bit insane, doesn’t it? I mean, online shopping is so easy yet we constantly build up more retail outlets that cram too many stores into too small a space leaving next to no parking and yet we keep flocking to these places. We’re all fucking nuts!

    But I’d like to share another overly long-winded story. Some of you, jjyank in particular, know I like to mock Facebook. Let me give you a prime example of why I don’t bother with that foolishness. My sister bartends weekends at a resort place that hosts a lot of weddings. She texted me that the one tonight is being attended by a lot of people I knew in my school days. The sister of a school friend of mine is maid of honor. The bride is the sister of a guy who was a few years younger but I knew through playing baseball. The parents of both of them are apparently saying hi and asking about me. But the real kick in the pants is that the father of a guy who I absolutely, positively despised, and continue to do so this very day, is also saying hi and asking about me! This is the kind of thing that my brain just can’t comprehend. I’d be tempted to say, “I hated your fucking son. He made my life miserable for the better part of 9 fucking years! You always struck me as being one of the reasons for that. Well, that and peer pressure because he was always a follow-the-leader type.” True story: That guy’s last name is Dick. No, I’m not making that up.

    So that’s why I’m not on Facebook. I don’t wish to be “found” by cursory people from my past whom I haven’t seen in over a decade.

    Wow, that was much longer than I thought it would be. Tell ya what. If you can produce what I said being performed by Lewis Black, it might be funnier. :)

    • Jacob

      Glad to hear it man! And a very interesting story, I would never want to be found by my old classmates at all.

    • jjyank

      Well, Lewis Black is the fucking shit. So yeah.

      Seriously though, glad that you’re looking up a bit. And as far as Facebook goes, you can always just not be “friends” with people you don’t want to be. Your decision though. Could always make fun of the trolls here with me, Plouffy, R-Tils and Havok too, though.

      • Pat D

        That is an enticement. I’m also facing facts that if I want to stay in touch with people from T-Mobile, I’ll have to get on there eventually.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      “So that’s why I’m not on Facebook. I don’t wish to be “found” by cursory people from my past whom I haven’t seen in over a decade.”

      See, and I enjoy that part of it all. Different strokes…

  • Anthony

    Ibanez to the Mariners. Not the worst thing in the world of course but I’ll never forget those late-inning heroics.

  • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

    So, I usually avoid malls/public shops from Thanksgiving-Boxing Day(when I’ll go to Best Buy for some awesome after Christmas sales) apart from bringing my presents to get wrapped at those charity wrapping booths.(I can’t wrap for shit, plus giving to charities is always good, and they do an outstanding job). So today was that day, after sitting in traffic for about an hour to get to a mall that’s 10 minutes away usually I got to the parking lot, which of course was a disaster. After looking for a little bit I finally decided to play the stalk a person an spot waiting game. As I was following her, I came to an intersection in the lot, since I was following somebody I let the other car go. As I do that, the woman I’m following gets to her car, so the car I let go goes to take her spot. Angry at this point, I flip the bird. The woman driving the other car gets out, and comes to my window, I roll it down and explain that I’m only here to get my presents wrapped and give to a charity, and after sitting in traffic for an hour and following this woman to her spot she says “I’m sorry, it is rightfully your spot, I’m sorry for yelling at you.”

    • MannyGeee

      People suck.

    • Laz

      Always get annoyed by those parking lot stalkers. :)

      • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

        I do too, and I always hate doing it…but I have never been in a parking lot that bad. I usually go to The Garden State Plaza, because for 5 bucks they valet your car, which is totally worth it this time of year, but I decided to do The Bergen Town Centre this year…huge mistake. They have like 1/3rd of the parking of GSP and no valet lol.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I love GSP.

          From the “you’ll now say I’m old” department, I remember when GSP was a series of outdoor, unconnected shops. My dad used to take us a Rustler steakhouse there, right where the Legal Sea Foods is now. They then started connecting the shops and there was a comic book store I LOVED when I was, like, eight. By the time I moved away (and around the time of a Richard Marx in-store at Sam Goody I stood in line for), it had become a regular mall, but something not even 1/4 the size of the behemoth it is now. Willowbrook and Paramus Park were the “better” malls back then.

          I do love GSP whenever I need a taste of mall life. I fucking hate the fact that that town still closes on Sundays. It’s 2012. Shove your blue laws up your ass.

          • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

            I agree that they need to shove the blue laws as a consumer, however as somebody who has worked retail(never at a mall thank god) I completely understand why people who work at a mall love the fact that GSP, Paramus Park, and now the new Bergen Mall (or Bergen Town Center) are all closed on Sundays.

            I absolutely love Garden State when I need something and I want to go get it, because I dislike Walmart/Target type stores, plus the movie theatre is phenomenal.

            • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

              And w/ Legal Seafood, The Grand Luxe, and South of The Border, and Ruby Tuesdays, Paparazzi, and that burger joint they have now, they have a handful of decent-really good restaurant/bars right there at the mall.

  • Laz

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

    goodbye Ibanez. Like the Mariners need another DH.

    • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

      That makes no sense. Morales can’t hit LHP, he hits RHP just fine. Plus they also have Montero, who still can’t play any position really, they also apparently still haven’t given up on Smoak to play first, so Morales can’t hit there…they now have Morales, Smoak, Montero, and Raul for 2 positions. Unless they actually plan to play Raul in the OF for more than 120 games, which is just insanity. Also I officially need a new name.

      • MannyGeee

        No one has staked a claim on “Future HOFer Ronnie Mustellier” yet… I nominate you

      • jjyank

        …Plouffy?

      • Ted Nelson

        They’re just looking for anyone who can hold a bat. This is a team that got outscored by all but three NL teams last season.

  • yanks or death

    thanks for the big hits ibanez. now go trade for kubel for LH DH. he should hit good at yankee stadium.

  • MannyGeee

    Apparently football is a thing tonight… Matt Ryan is a fucking animal. Ryan to Roddy White for many many yards.

  • Brian S.

    Every team in the AL East is looking like they will finish above .500. When is the last time that happened?

    • Brian S.

      Would have said this before the Hanrahan trade by the way. I don’t consider relief pitching to be that impactful but Boston is looking like they might contend for a Wild Card Spot this year along with every team in the AL except Houston, Minnesota, and Cleveland.

      • Ted Nelson

        Seattle and KC?

        • Brian S.

          Yes. I envision a Hosmer rebound and Moustakas breakout. And I think Ackley and Montero will also take huge strides forward this year.

    • Get Phelps Up

      Baltimore sure as hell isn’t. I’m not even sold on Boston and Toronto yet either.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Toronto will be better. I can’t say how much better.

        Not sold on Boston in the least. Yes, you can put me on the “Hanrahan will suck” bandwagon now.

        I think Baltimore regresses.

        At the end of this, you’re going to be looking at the Yanks and Tampa down to the wire…again. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

  • MartinRanger

    If they could swing a trade for Kubel and pick up Baker, I would feel a lot better about the offense next year, no lie. Baker had a bad year but he’s not that old and he killed lefties for five straight years before.

  • Blake

    @mlbtraderumors: Nationals & LaRoche Inching Towards New Contract http://t.co/YN7oO5k9 #mlb

    Trade for Morse

    • Get Phelps Up

      Getting Morse would be great.

  • http://Tab Aly

    And another one bites the dust…Goodbye Raul…welcome back Matsui and Damon.

  • mrdbag

    Arod does not belong on the same field as Manny. Manny was the greatest right handed hitter since Mays. Yankees should have taken him when he wad on irrevocable waivers. Cashman has no Vision.

    • Crickets

      chirp chirp

    • Knoxvillain

      Manny was awesome. I’d take A-Rod in his prime over any hitter I’ve ever seen not named Barry Bonds over anyone.

      • Knoxvillain

        I’d take A-Rod in his prime over any hitter I’ve ever seen not named Bonds*.

        I butchered that one.

    • Brian S.

      Manny was on steroids.

      • Milt Toast

        You’re absolutely right but, as we’re beginning to discover, probably more than half of all players in the pre-testing era took steroids, including pitchers. Including many who adamantly claim to have been clean.

      • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

        So did Alex. As we get further away from the “steroid era” the more I realize a lot of players were doing it, and that we really shouldn’t hold it against them. My reasoning is simple: if there was a magic drug that could make me better at my career, leading to more money and better perks and more respect, and it was technically against the rules but there was no structure in place for punishment or testing for said drug and it was easily accessible and all of my competition was using it I would probably take it too.

        • Herby

          So all the players who weren’t taking it and not competing on a level playing field…oh that’s tough luck…sorry, and saying all the competition was taking it is just lumping everyone together isn’t right…there are quite a few HOFer’s who’d disagree with everything you have to say. Just because it’s available doesn’t make it right.

          • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

            A lot of those HOFer’s took things called “Greenies” back in the day, turns out they where amphetamines (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=2225013). Players have been looking for a competitive edge since the beginning of the game. Gaylord Perry is in the Hall for throwing a pitch that was legit banned from the game for his entire career. Also, who said anything about it being “right?” To quote Herm Edwards “You play to win the game.” Morality aside, these guys are payed millions of dollars to play a game and be successful at it.

            • Herby

              They also played in a lot worse playing conditions, played a lot more day games, actually played real double headers…had to travel much more by train, there was a alcohol abuse was common, work off season jobs just to get by…it was a much different situation in those days…players weren’t as pampered as they are now. Your situation wasn’t guaranteed, it was considered a common practice and not an illegal substance management expected you to do that to get you on the field and provided it, be damned to the player, or we’d just get someone else to fill your place. It wasn’t performance enhancement, it was save your ass. There is no comparison,

              • jjyank

                ?

                Enhancing your performance is the same no matter what your motivation is for doing so.

                • Herby

                  only problem with that is amphetamines, especially over the long haul don’t enhance your performance…it doesn’t make you drive the ball further, doesn’t make you run faster, and doesn’t make you recover from injuries quicker…In fact it drags you down, tires out your muscles and your mind. It has the opposite effect.

        • Rocky Road Redemption

          I might too, but that you or I might cheat, and can understand it, doesn’t make it not cheating. If they all cheated they all cheated and there should be a penalty.

    • Herby

      Sorry I’ll pass at having Manny on my team…of course he’d be a good influence for young players on how to find a vein, or how to strut like a peacock with all those needles stuck in your ass.

      • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

        Also on how to work your ass off. I remember a story about after he signed late in the off season w/ the Dodgers a couple seasons ago. Matt Kemp got to the training facility at like 8am or w/e it was and Manny was already there in the middle of his work out, he looked Kemp straight in the eye and said (jokingly) “Where have you been, you’re 2 hours late.” Kemp looked back at him and said “What are you talking about, you’re two weeks late.” I don’t know why, but I remember a reporter relaying that story on the Kay Show on my way to a final.

        My point is this, you can start a weight lifter’s steroid regime tomorrow, if you follow it up by sitting on your ass eating chips, it’s not going to make any sort of difference except give you back acne and shrink your balls.

        • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

          All that said, Gun to my head, A-Rod over Manny because Alex in his prime was also an All-Star defender. Manny, not so much.

        • Herby

          Sorry, work hard or not Manny didn’t do any of his teams service with all the suspensions he had, and when you get older like he was you will work harder when you see the end coming. The steroid era in baseball wasn’t that exciting when the average player was pumping out 30hr seasons. Part of the interest in baseball is it’s ties to the past and the records from then, obliterating them took something away from the game. Manny being one of the worst offenders deserves no credit as well as Bonds.

          • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

            Your last sentence is an incredibly strong one, because unless you can prove that both Manny and Bonds doped for their entire careers it’s a ludicrous statement. Both, more Bonds than Manny admittedly, IMO are HOFer’s w/o using any performance enhancing drugs.

            Curious, how do you feel about Andy using HGH, because in my mind according your logic he’s just as guilty and shouldn’t even ever be thought of as a HOFer because he cheated.

            • Herby

              Look at how ridiculously Bonds body changed…and you can’t say they are HOFer’s w/o using performance enhancing drugs because you can never tell how their bodies would’ve held up…with Andy and HGH I’ll go by his admission it was a one year thing to overcome injury and that it’s not particularly going to enhance performance. It still leaves questions though. If I were voting it would be a tough decision. With the steroid, testosterone users…no way, no how do they get voted in…of course some could say they only used testosterone to reinflate their balls.

              • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

                Correct me if I’m wrong, but Bonds’ body went all super-human in like 2001-2002? Before that point, from 1986-2000 he put together what I would consider a HOF career. I’m curious, though why does Andy get a pass that he only took it that one year but Manny doesn’t that he only took it after he went to LA? Because he said so after he was caught? If you truly believe that using HGH was cheating at the time in which he took it and not a gray area in baseball how does he have any credibility?

                • Herby

                  Never said Andy got a pass…but that it would take more consideration…and Bonds started going all Super-human as you say before 2000. Manny’s repeated offenses after being suspended time and again makes him lose any credibility that he has any honesty at all, as well as being different class of drug.
                  It wouldn’t be just Andy, but any player using HGH. I’d have to consider the honesty of using it, would their body have held up in the long haul if they hadn’t or would their career have come to a screeching halt and been able to put up HOF numbers.

    • Get Phelps Up

      mrdalelamabag?

    • MannyGeee

      Manny never hit 55 home runs or won an MVP. And Ramirez for all his talent was an absolute fucking nut job and a malcontent.

      That said, Ramirez was a generational hitter, but no one wanted him by the time it was all said and done. They only wanted the thought of him. So yeah, give me Alex in his prime over Manny ever

  • You should have shot Arod

    Ibanez signs with seattle 1 yr 2.7 mil including incentives.
    Cashman WTF!!!

    • Herby

      Yea, seems they’re going to give Montero a shot at being their everyday catcher, or at least that’s the party line as of now. I’d expect Smoak to be on the trade market now that Morales is on the team as well.

    • forensic

      Eh, I didn’t really want to see Ibanez part 2. He had some huge homers, but otherwise greatly struggled for long periods of time and his overall numbers weren’t all the terrific. I say thanks for the memorable hits and enjoy Seattle.

      • Herby

        It’ll be a nice moment when he gets his standing O the first time the Mariners come to the stadium and everyone gives a Raaauuullll!!! Then they can move on.

        • MannyGeee

          And he abruptly goes 0-9 in the series.

          Don’t let all the clutchiness fool you, he went dormant for a better part of the second half.

    • thunder rd runner

      no, I’m OK with this…

  • Pistol Pete

    Wonder what Cashman would have to give up to get Jason Kubel for the last year of his contract at 7.5m from Arizona. He would be an excellent left handed DH. His swing fits for Yankee Stadium and he’d fit the power outage with the losses of Swisher Martin and Arod. He hit 30 HR ‘s last year and his contract would roll off after next year. Seems like a perfect fit as long as the Yanks didn’t have to give up too much.

    • Herby

      I heard Kevin Towers lusted after Mr. Met’s wife while he was in the Yankees front office…maybe a weekend with her and throw in a low minor league prospect and give the Mets $1000

  • Bavarian Yankee

    happy Festivus everybody! The airing of grievances should be awesome this year :D

    • Pat D

      Wow, I’d completely forgotten about Festivus.

      I’m having a family gathering today and when my mother inevitably tells everyone I’m going back to school, I’m sure everyone will look at me and say, “You gonna graduate this time?” Or maybe, “Will you take it seriously this time?” Basically some condescending statement about my past failure. While I suppress saying, “Fuck you!” to them, I’ll have to think of how they’ve let me down over the past. Not the past year, just the past in general. They wanna whip out skeletons, I will too.

      • MannyGeee

        Dude, just walk away. Trust me, no one gets more condescending than my family.

        Best bet has you just nodding and smiling and telling them to go fuck themselves under your breath. Do it for moms sake…

        • Pat D

          Oh, that’s what I’ll do. But I can fantasize.

          Of course, my mother just told me today was her father’s birthday. Now this gives me mixed feelings. My grandfather died back in 1997, but in the subsequent years I came to the realization that I didn’t really like him. I heard he could be abusive and he had a drinking problem. My dad also said that he almost got into a potentially lethal fight with him days before my parents’ wedding when he said something insulting about my mother.

          In the years I knew him, he was with a woman that he eventually remarried and this woman was a complete bitch. No one in the family liked her, but they all tolerated her. But she was particularly dismissive of my younger sister, and my grandfather didn’t seem to care for my sister either. Many were the times I had to console my sister, sobbing and crying that she couldn’t win his affection.

          So either last year or the year before, on Facebook, my sister posts that she was affected more by John Denver’s death (my family are huge John Denver fans), which happened the day of our grandfather’s funeral, than by our grandfather’s death. So two of my aunts, who seem to have forgotten how much of a dick my grandfather could be, ripped into her. My dad and I were livid, while my mother played diplomat and reminded them why my sister would feel that way.

          It’s one of the reasons I sometimes can’t stand spending time with my extended family. My memories are poisoned with nothing but negativity. I look at the negatives in everyone instead of the positives. And so while I sometimes resent having to spend time with people I might not do so otherwise, I’m also pissed at myself for not being able to let the past stay in the past.

  • dennyneagleshooker

    swisher signed with the indians to a 4/56, why we couldn’t match that……….

  • MannyGeee

    My first grievance….. Nick swisher signing with Cleveland for 4/56. Bummer.

    #Georgeisrollinginhisgrave

    • Pat D

      At least it wasn’t Boston.