Cashman: Pineda will throw off a half-mound tomorrow

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Via Dan Barbarisi: Brian Cashman confirmed that Michael Pineda will throw off a half-mound tomorrow for the first time since having shoulder surgery in early-May. Pineda, who turned 24 a little more than a week ago, has been throwing off flat ground since at least September. Moving up to a half-mound isn’t much in the grand scheme of things, but it’s a big step in his rehab from a very serious injury. Good news.

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  • Cool Lester Smooth (Formerly YanksFanInBeantown)

    Yeah Pineda! Here’s hoping for a Clemens-esque recovery.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Absolutely good news. We’ve talked so much shit about the trade, but it can all be forgotten rather quickly if this guy makes it back and shows that promise again.

    • Magilla Gorilla Mama Called me Roy tho

      Hear that he is throwing lefty to exploit a weakened left rotator cuff.

  • Harris (1732 Days till Arod’s Contract Expires)

    I feel like any other franchise’ would actually figure a former phenom who had TJ into their teams plans. The Yanks have such bad luck with young pitchers in the last decade or so, that nobody is expecting Pineda to do anything. Here’s hoping he can be more like Strasburg than Joba.

    • Blake

      He didnt have TJ surgery.

    • Havok9120

      He had a far less normal surgery than TJ, though it apparently wassn’t the “you’re screwed” variety, either.

  • Greg

    We don’t need a half mound. We need a half Pineda.

  • Get Phelps Up

    I find myself rooting for Pineda more than any other Yankee.

    • forensic

      I root for A-Rod more than any other Yankee, and I’m just assuming that it may be for the same general reasons.

      But for some reason I’m so predisposed against the trade/him, that’s it’s somewhat tough for me. I won’t root against him or anything like that, but it’s been a disaster move so far. I really hope he comes through it well on the other end though, for the Yankees sake, because I think they’re really going to need a jolt like that in the coming years.

  • LK

    It’s kind of amazing that it takes basically 8 full months to get back to a half mound even with modern medicine. Hopefully he can beat the odds and get all the way back to what he was.

    • Ted Nelson

      Not sure if it’s actually beating the odds. I’ve read 3 of the 4 Ps with similar procedure did get back.

      • Cool Lester Smooth (Formerly YanksFanInBeantown)

        And the one who didn’t was 27 when he got it.

        And, despite what the article says, I’m pretty sure Clemens had that same surgery, the glenoidal labrum is just the technical term for that muscle.

    • Magilla Gorilla Mama Called me Roy tho

      it is a shoulder injury. The shoulder is a very loose joint held together by a bone, socket and rotator cuff. the shoulder is designed for movement on any plane, as long as the rotator cuff hold up. Guy throws 97 miles per hour and has a bad rotator cuff.

  • Ted Nelsons Mom

    Ted wont get off the fangraphs site, any suggestions?

    • Get Phelps Up

      I suggest you learn when to use an apostrophe to indicate a possessive noun.

      • vinnie

        Seriously?? You need to have pristine punctuation on a blog? Pathetic..

        • Get Phelps Up

          It was some guy mocking Ted Nelson. It was warranted.

          • Ted Nelsons Mom

            I’ll paddle your fanny, Phelps. It is warranted.

            • Get Phelps Up

              Worry about your own kid first.

          • http://www, GT Yankee

            How chivalrous. That is till he comes backs on another post and attacks you-Which I’d bet is just a matter of time. At least he’s equal opportunity….right?

            • Cool Lester Smooth (Formerly YanksFanInBeantown)

              Lay off, bro.

              He only attacks people who he thinks are being dicks or trolls. And I say this having gotten into a pretty heated discussion with him a couple weeks ago, and I was being a dick at the time.

        • Vinnie’s Dad

          Son, back to your room to learn proper capitalization and ellipsis rules, or maybe you were attempting a simple, sentence-ending period. Either way, you screwed up with one too many or one too few.

          Love, Dad

          • your mom

            All you fuckers shut up.

            Love, your mom

  • RetroRob

    Good news, but I’m still not expecting much from Pineda this year.

    Using Anibal Sanchez as a compare since he had a similar injury at a similar age, Sanchez had a fine rookie season in 2006 at age 22, before experiencing shoulder problems and velocity loss in ST 2007 at age 23. They didn’t discover the torn labrum until June, when he underwent surgery.

    Sanchez did make it back the following year in July 2008, but only pitched approximately 50 major league innings to an ERA north of 5.50. It wasn’t pretty. Velocity was okay, but his command was poor. That could be the equivalent of Pineda’s 2013. Spotty and low innings, poor command, bad results. The following year, 2009, (Pineda 2014), Sanchez improved, velocity ticked up, command improved, and overall pitched decently when he did pitch, yet he missed a good portion of the season again. Sanchez was back at full strength, full velocity and pitched a full season in 2010 (Pineda 2015). Sanchez has been strong, pitching roughly 200 innings a year, full velocity and no arm problems the last three years. (Pineda 2015-2017).

    I’m not suggesting at all that this is the exact time path for Pineda. For one, the Yankees should consider themselves quite lucky if Pineda eventually returns to his former self as Sanchez did. Their injuries are similar and they are similar ages, but that doesn’t mean much with shoulder injuries. Every pitcher is different, but it does show how long it could take for Pineda to really be an impact pitcher for the Yankees, even if he does come back all the way.

    It’s why I’m hoping the Yankees keep him in the minors most of 2013, where they can monitor his pitching and innings while not in the majors. If the team is lucky, he can contribute to the 2014, Plan 189 team, with a reset arbitration and free agency clock.

    • aluis

      Post failure. Which is it? You make a case for similarity and then in the next you say that no two pitchers are a like. I’d just go with the latter and call it a day.

  • mt

    Delaying his arbitration and free agency clock is the minimum the Yanks should achieve this year out of what has so far been somewhat of a fiasco – I see no reason to push Pineda this year even if early reports that he is looking good with good velocity – they should be mindful that command may take longer to get back and not rush ” – to me, he is much more important to 2014 austerity plan than he is to 2013. I hope they take their time with his recovery.

    • Monterowasnotdinero

      Agree strongly with this last sentence. I have had rotator cuff surgery. Shoulder surgery for a pitcher is generally much harder to come back from than elbow. Pineda is young and a hard thrower and, dare I say, maybe not Clemenesque in his workout habits, approach, baseball savvy and work ethic. Go very slowly with the guy.

      And yes-i am looking for a much better season from Montero at 23 and with the fences moved in just enough at Safeco to turn his off the wall doubles into HRs….

  • your mom

    Like Mike always says, anything we get from Pineda from this point on is gravy. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

    • John C

      Would love nothing more than to see Pineda come back and succeed if for no other reason than to shut up the eternal Montero whiners once and for all

      • aluis


  • trr

    Well, here’s hoping

    • Vern Sneaker

      Absolutely here’s hoping. I hated to see Montero go after all those years of following him and having (unrealistic?)visions of 40+ HR seasons and at least adequate catching. But Pineda was a potentially terrific return and you’ve got to be rooting for a major contribution down the road.

  • Dars

    Anything we can get out of Pineda is a plus now. This type of injury does not have a good track record. Curt Schilling and Anibal Sanchez came back from it but it cost Brandon Webb, Rob Nenn and Ben Sheets their careers. The one thing going for Pineda is his age but he may have to reinvent himself and not likely be the 97 mph fireballer that we thought we were getting. The drop off in velocity and performance in the second half of 2011 should have been a red flag but Cashman chose to ignore it. Injuries many times do not happen in an instance but rather through the course of weeks.. In any case it is easy to play “Monday morning quarterback” now. Please read link below.

    • Vern Sneaker

      Just read the link. Aaggh.

      • Cool Lester Smooth (Formerly YanksFanInBeantown)

        Curt Schilling, Brandon Webb, Rob Nenn and Brandon Sheets have nothing to do with Michael Pineda.

    • Ted Nelson

      I believe that your source is confusing related, but not identical injuries.

    • Bo Knows

      Curt Schilling and Sanchez’s injuries are the two who’s injuries mirror the type Pineda had and even with those two, only Schillings was in the same location and contained similar amount of damage. Everyone else had either more extensive damage, or another set of injuries coupled with the labrum.

  • Dicka24

    Maybe the drop in velocity and related concerns is inpart why Jose Campos got tossed in from the Mariners side. Of course, he also went down with an elbow injury. What is it with Yankees pitching prospects and arm injuries. It seems all the good ones get hurt.

  • 189,189,189,

    bust…………you all will see……