Jan
25

Friday Night Open Thread

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Happy Friday everyone. The Devils and Islanders are playing tonight, but feel free to talk about whatever you want in this open thread. You folks know how these things work by now, so do your worst.

Categories : Open Thread

141 Comments»

  1. Barry says:

    Not so secretly happy to possibly have a year without A-Twat. Hate him.

  2. Bob Buttons says:

    Once upon a time there was a GM named Moneyguy

    Because he normally did okay in offseasons, the one offseason where he stood pat against some bad signings, while missing on a few guys like the average GM would, people are calling for his head.

    • Barry says:

      And it will roll. Haha, seriously though we could of really used Napoli.

      • Bob Buttons says:

        I’m gonna say no there, with the hip thing and all.

      • LK says:

        I don’t think Napoli was a great fit. He’s pretty expensive for what would end up being a part-time DH, and I doubt he would’ve wanted to come to NYY when other teams were offering the chance to play the field.

      • Pat D says:

        There are other more important things you could…ahem, have used.

      • jesse says:

        Should of signed Napoli!

      • Jacob The OG (formerly Jacob) says:

        How? Napoli is not really even a catcher, he does not play many games there and is not good at the position. He is actually a 1B(DH?) that is put called a catcher to boost his value. For example, the Red Sox do not really even have a starting catcher and they want Napoli to play 1B

          • Get Phelps Up says:

            Look at his other seasons.
            Which one is the likely outlier?

          • Jacob The OG (formerly Jacob) says:

            I’m looking at it…. 57 games at catcher? Thanks for proving my point without making me do work! You also gave me the backing for a new point I am about to make which is he only played 113 games that year while our 1B played 156 and our catcher played 118 games at catcher out of his 125(he played 125 games at catcher but only started 118)

            • Barry says:

              And that changes the fact that this team could use an impact bat how? I said that we should sign Napoli because A) he was very reasonably priced, and B) his contract pays out it’s top dollar only when he plays enough. How would he of been a bad player for this team? He can fake C but is a better DH, so he could catch a few games a week when there is an exceptionally tough opposing SP and our offense needs a boost by erasing Cervelli and Stewart from the line-up for those games and having a stronger hitter (than Cervelli or Stewart) play DH.

              • Jacob The OG (formerly Jacob) says:

                where does he fit? we hae a 1B 10x better than him and we need to rotate the DH plus he has a messed up hip and injury problems

                • Barry says:

                  How do you figure we NEED to rotate the DH? Jeter will need time off.. that’s it. Jeter played 135 games in the field last year btw. So you put Napoli at C, Jeter at DH, Nunez at SS. You could do the same rotation insert different name for Jeter. A-Rod may be out for the entire season. Napoli would fit perfectly.

                  • jjyank says:

                    A-Rod may also not be out for the entire season. Playing Youkilis every day at third is just asking for a DL stint. Granderson is getting up there in age and might need some time at DH every once in awhile. Tex could use a few DH reps, and even Cano every once in awhile.

                    I don’t know how you can assume Jeter is the only player who might need time at DH. That’s a lot of players to rotate around. I have no regrets about passing on Napoli at all.

                    • Barry says:

                      OK and you can insert their names to DH and slide Napoli to C or give him a day off on those days. Napoli would replace a lot of the production we lost from Swisher and Martin would he not?

                    • jjyank says:

                      In a vacuum, yes. But I think you’re oversimplifying things. For a prime example of needing a DH who can play the field more than like, twice a week, we need only to review the 2012 season.

                    • Barry says:

                      Yes but for a relatively decent price you could provide good production, better than you’d get for what the prices of FAs were this offseason. I’m not saying he’s an excellent player but I do think he does fit, just as well if not better than Morse.

                    • jjyank says:

                      I disagree. I’d rather have Morse. If Napoli’s hip is bad enough to make his price so attractive, that just makes me all the more eager to pass on him.

                    • Barry says:

                      To each his own but we’ve taken on much more risk for players in the past. Nick Johnson comes to mind right away.

      • MannyGeee says:

        But A Rod with a bad hip is the anti Christ. Napoli with the same bad hip is A OK?

        Seems legit

  3. Bob Buttons says:

    A short list of random injuries

    Some of the best includes:
    Clint Barmes injured himself carrying a large steak Todd Helton gave him
    Burnett got some fingernail injury
    Pavano injuring himself shoveling snow
    Kevin Brown injured himself punching a wall
    Rivera injured himself shagging flyballs
    Glenallen Hill injured himself while trying to escape a nightmare about spider
    Padres pitcher Adam Eaton missed a start after stabbing himself in the stomach with a small knife while trying to cut the shrink wrap off a DVD
    Ruben Sierra once showed up to the ballpark with a sprained ankle, thanks to chasing his daughter on a mall escalator.
    Glavine broke a rib in 1992 after vomiting up airplane food.
    Mark Smith (Orioles)
    Injured his hand after sticking it in an air conditioner to “find out why it wasn’t working.”
    Roger Craig (Giants)
    Cut his hand on a bra strap … though we’re guessing that’s pain he played through.

    Bonus: Rey Quinones (Seattle)
    Once was unavailable for pinch hitting duty, because he had already returned to the clubhouse … to play Nintendo.

    More at:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....ell/040524
    http://espn.go.com/page2/s/holloman/020307.html

  4. Captain's Gift Basket says:

    So, being at my office on a flippin’ friday at this hour… SUCKS!!!

    • Bob Buttons says:

      Sorry to hear that.

      Look on the bright side, you get free dinner (right?)

      • Barry says:

        The old saying, “nothing’s really free” must apply.

        • Bob Buttons says:

          Some places have both overtime pay and free dinner, as far as I know.

          • Barry says:

            I’m one of those guys that always takes the free shift myself. I figure as long as I’m working I’m not spending money so I’m winning! Plus it’s hard to do something stupid at work, whereas; for me, it’s easy to do something stupid on a Friday night when not at work(in the past anyway).

  5. trr says:

    I wish Hal Steinbrenner would miss the entire 2013 season…

  6. Blake says:

    I know it’s fun to bash Arod and his contract (and it is bad of course) but I do think it’s important to remember who Arod was when he signed it.

    In the winter of 2007 Arod was the best player in the world still….he was coming off a season where he put up a 9.7 fWAR and a 175 wRC+…..he has never really been hurt…. There was no steroid admission….and Alex was gonna be the guy to save baseballs records from the evil Barry Bonds…. And he was gonna do it in pinstripes….that was the story in 2007 when the inexperienced Steinbrenner bros (mainly Hank) let Boras play them like a fiddle and sign that contract.

    It looks horrible now….and it wasn’t smart at the time given his age….but if you try and look beyond what we know in hindsight and just look at what we knew in 2007 then it’s more understandable IMO…..

    What’s worse is that the Angels had an example of what not to do right in front of them with Arod and they signed Pujols to a similar contract anyways…..now that was dumb

    • Jacob The OG (formerly Jacob) says:

      This

    • jjyank says:

      Yeah…I mean nobody is going to argue that it was a smart contract at the time. But A-Rod was on his way (at the time) to being the best player of his generation.

      • Blake says:

        Yes…..it’s went totally sideways since then but the Yanks didnt know it would at the time.

        It was a perfect storm of things that led to that contract……Alex had tons of leverage….Hal and Hank hasn’t been in control very long and probably were afraid to lose their best player…etc.

        It’s easy to look at Alex now and say man how did they sign this guy to that contract….well they didnt …they signed the guy he was 5 years ago to that contract and 5 years ago Arod was super good….

      • Barry says:

        He’s still one of the best of his generation, as was Bonds, as was Clemens. Steroids happened, they still happen. Lack of integrity, yes, but no one did anything then and no one really does anything about it now. (apart from suspending the player they rarely catch)

        Maybe the MLBPA needs to change things so that when a player is caught doing something that destroys the game’s integrity they should forfeit more than serving a suspension.

    • dalelama says:

      It was still a stupid extension as was pointed out by many including myself at the time. Should have let him walk as the number of WS titles he delivered was 0. He was and remains the Chokemaster General.

  7. Cris Pengiucci says:

    I got an e-mail today informing me that I was selected in the lottery to purchase tickets to the Yankees/Rockies games at Coors Field in May. Getting to see the Yankees even without going to NY!! (of course, I do need to watch the Rockies as well in order to see the Yankees …)

  8. Cris Pengiucci says:

    Not sure on beer prices. Haven’t been there since the Yankees last played out here (’08?), but it is a nice venue and the most expensive seats are $125. Not too bad.

  9. Herby says:

    Much better clip than last night, always nice to see something involving Jorge, I missed him on the team last year. Pedro still goes down like bad chicken.

  10. Barry says:

    Who signs Lohse?

  11. Bob Buttons says:

    Well this is a first, a Cuban player making himself OLDER instead of younger.

    From MLBTR:
    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....edina.html
    Major League Baseball is investigating the age of Cuban shortstop Aledmys Diaz, multiple sources told Ben Badler of Baseball America. Diaz is presenting himself as a 23-year-old but his birthdate conflicts with previous accounts that would make him 22 or 21. The age difference is crucial for Diaz as Cuban players with at least three years of professional experience in Cuba and who are at least 23 are exempt from the capped bonus pools.

  12. UpState says:

    If we need to trade for a ‘post A-Rod” third baseman….
    any thoughts on acquiring any of these minor leaguers ???

    Rendon —– Nationals
    Davidson — D-Backs
    Gallo——— Rangers
    Cuthbert—- Royals
    Castellano– Detroit
    Gyorko——- San Diego

    • Bob Buttons says:

      Supposedly Castellanos is a bad fielder and would cost a lot

    • Barry says:

      I don’t know if it’d be worth the price in prospects considering A-Rod isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

    • jesse says:

      This is a pretty insane hypothetical, but here it goes…

      Jedd Gyorko is an intriguing option, as he can play 3B and some 2B, but mostly 3B. I’d have to imagine going forward A-Rod will be spending more and more time at DH. When A-Rod is DHing, Gyorko can play 3B, and when A-Rod plays 3B, they can have Gyorko play 2B if Cano leaves. They could then have someone like David Adams or Corban Joseph play 2B when Gyorko is at 3B and A-Rod is DHing.

      In fact, since Joseph is a LHH, he could work best in this scenario. Against righties, have A-Rod DH, Gyorko at 3B, and Joseph at 2B. Against lefties, you can have A-Rod at 3B Gyorko at 2B, Joseph on the bench, and then have Jeter DH and I guess Nunez at SS.

      Of course this is moot for 2013 as Youkilis is in the way, but I’m just kind of thinking out loud here. It does involve guys like Gyorko, Joseph, and Nunez who are all cheap (Gyorko and Joseph more-so than Nunez) so it should fit under Plan $189MM.

  13. UpState says:

    …being ‘blocked’ at ML level ?
    …available ?
    …good targets ?

  14. ARodasaurus says:

    All you A-Rod haters now, please remember this when he’s breaking Bonds & Aaron’s records in a few years.

    He’s still Alex Rodriguez, when healthy, one of the top 3 baseball talents in the world.

    • Barry says:

      I don’t know if you could say top 3 even if he’s healthy after 2013. There are a lot of great players in the world at this moment that are better than A-Rod.

      • Barry says:

        When he was younger, yes.

      • ARodasaurus says:

        Name them, pitchers don’t count…they do one thing well

        All around talent, with producing at the plate valued highly (as always).

        • Bob Buttons says:

          Since A-Rod doesn’t run that well anymore I’ll basically ignore runnning.

          Trout, Harper, David Wright, Evan Longoria, Ryan Zimmerman, etc.

          • ARodasaurus says:

            I’ll give you Trout (he was one of my top 3).

            Not that steals are that indicative of speed, but you know A-Rod had more SB than Longoria and Zimmerman, and only few less than Harper and Wright. I’d rate ARod’s base running ability as above average as well.

            Plus, give me a healthy A-Rod hitting cleanup over any of those guys next year…

          • MannyGeee says:

            Longoria is not better than A Rod when both are healthy. That said, I will assume you won’t see too many days when these two guys are both healthy and active…

          • dalelama says:

            Cano

    • Herby says:

      I don’t hate him, but I’d be kind of surprised if he passes Barry at this point, would love to see it happen, but don’t expect it will.

  15. UpState says:

    not a hater at all !!!

    ..just trying to think ahead if A-Rod can’t comeback to play 3B & only DH.

    Hoping someone might have better knowledge of these young 3B players ?

    Good, bad, ugly, unavailable, great idea,…whatever ???

  16. Ethan says:

    Do your worst? That sounds like a challenge. So… politics/religion anyone?

  17. UpState says:

    Notre Dame ?

  18. Blake says:

    Guy the Yanks might should check on is Evan Gattis. With the Upton trade he is blocked for years and he’s 27 years old with nowhere to play….RH power bat that can play LF ok and catch a little (though not good)…..seems like he’s probably expendable to the Braves now and could be a fit for the Yanks at some point

    • Barry says:

      Wow, 18 HR in 74 games and he doesn’t strike out too much plus draws walks. I guess the only concern is that all of those came below AAA at an older age than the competition. Either way he does have pop. He’d be worth picking up for the right price.

  19. Andy Pettitte's Fibula says:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas.....these-days

    Does anyone know if this stuff is real? Even if it took 50 takes, it’s pretty freaking impressive. I love Manziel by the way. Reminds me of when Doug Flutie was at BC. You never wanted to miss a play because something amazing could happen.

  20. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    I had fun watching the Devils, who were FINALLY on MSG, meaning I could watch them on my TV for once.

    It was a good game, and a nice win. Wow, I REALLY missed hockey.

  21. Havok9120 says:

    Two thoughts this evening:

    1) What the heck happened in the Cashman thread about ARod? It wasn’t news, and when I left the house, an hour after it had gone up, almost no comments were in it. Now it’s over 100. Yikes.

    2) Crown Maple Whiskey should die in a fire. Two pulls of it three hours ago has resulted in my hands and breath smelling like raw maple syrup, as if I was exuding the stuff from my pores.

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