Jan
12

Hale: Yankees have no interest in Jim Thome

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Via Mark Hale: The Yankees have no interest in free agent DH Jim Thome. The 42-year-old slugger still offers power (.209 ISO last two years) and patience (13.3 BB%) from the left side in addition to reportedly elite character and clubhouse skills, but that’s pretty much it. He can’t play defense and needs a platoon partner. Thome is super easy to root for and appears to fit the team’s needs at DH, so it’s disappointing to hear they don’t have interest. Maybe he’ll fall into their laps on the cheap next month a la Raul Ibanez last year.

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League
  • Cris Pengiucci

    WEow. Earth-shattering. The Yankees, who need a right handed hitting, preferably positionally-flexible, OF or IF, have no interested in left handed DH only. Can’t imagine why that is.

  • Blake

    Try for Upton….if cant get him then get Morse

    • Dr. Jake Rosenstein

      Quick! Get Cashman on the line. That’s a wrinkle he’s probably never thought of.

    • entonces

      Upton will cost too much, if Seattle deal is any guide.
      Simply creates too many holes when you trade four or five for one. Especially now, with new CBA and budget cap, when Yanks will not be able to flex financial might to sign young talent.
      Meanwhile, I am amazed that Napoli hasn’t bolted. The slippery Lucchino seems to have perfected a slimey new negotiating tactic (it’s already worked with JD Drew and Lackey). Announce the signing of a player, then seize on some physical issue (and most players have them) to renegotiate, all the while tying the players hands with the original outsized contract promise. I don’t know if Napoli makes sense to Yanks. But I simply don’t understand why he would put up with this phony crap from Boston. Is it possible nobody else wants him?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      If you did not hear this message the first time, please remain on the line and it will repeat itself in 30 seconds.

    • RetroRob

      Upton or Morse? I’m thinking both. Oh, yeah. Let’s get that kid in Miami. Stanton. Upton, Stanton, Morse. Sounds good. Make it happen, Cash.

  • thunder rd runner

    Good!

  • Yankee Insider

    I say we go for Hafner because when he’s healthy he can absolutely mash the ball

    • jjyank

      The “if he’s healthy” part is huge though. Hafner has cracked 100 games ONCE since 2007.

      • MartinRanger

        Two years ago I’d be all over this. But at this point I’m not convinced Pronk has much left.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Same goes for Lou Gehrig.

      • MannyGeee

        Oh no he did’nt…..

    • Joel Skinner

      He hasnt been healthy since the turn of the century…LOL!! Lets get Nick Johnson and Carl Pavano while we are at it

  • jjyank

    I’d love Thome if the roster was constructed differently. Unfortunately, I don’t think he’s much of a fit.

    • Cris Pengiucci

      Despite my earlier comments, they probably do need a LH DH. Unless, of course, they find a RH DH/OF/1B at the right price that doesn’t have much of a platoon split (Morse). Thome would probably do quite well against righty’s, especially in YSIII.

  • turd surfer

    Kill it skillet.

  • Eric

    Wow, surprising restraint the Yankees don’t go for another aging former all-star on a one-year deal. Thought we’d cornered the market on those.

  • Dicka24

    I just read that the Redsox are looking to shorten Mike Napoli’s deal to one year now. If one year is what his market has become, shouldn’t the Yankees jump in? Granted he doesn’t play the OF, and is a butcher behind the plate, but he’d at least provide a legitimate RH power bat, and a stop gap for a season at catcher. Kinda. I’d still prefer Morse if the price isn’t too high cuz he plays the OF, butif it’s just for one years worth of cash, Napoli should be a consideration no?

    • Hoss

      Yes to Napoli, no to Morse.

    • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

      Absolutely. Right handed DH/1B/Catcher with power.

      He’d be perfect on a 1 year deal to save us at least part of the time from the CervoStewie abomination

  • Hoss

    Give me a break! This has got to be the biggest joke of a FO in history. Jim Thome? When are we going to hear Carlos Baerga? Minnie Minoso?

    The Red Sox are trying to get Napoli down to a 1-year contract. It is time to swoop in and steal the guy from under the Red Sox. Offer him a 1-year with a second year option based on incentives. That will at least make the catching situation better for 2013.

    • Cris Pengiucci

      Read the article. The Yankees aren’t interested in Thome. Are you complaining that they aren’t and should be? are you really Eddard in disguise? Nothing they do is right?

      • Hoss

        I realize that, you big dummy. Why are we even hearing about Jim Thome? Is the FO is trying to demonstrate that they are actually doing something, like staying on top of potentially FAs? If this is the type of spin they are giving fans, this is one sorry offseason.

        • Hoss

          Should read “potentially useful FAs.”

        • jjyank

          What are you talking about? The FO isn’t trying to “demonstrate” anything. A reporter from the NY Post is reporting on the lack of interest of a free agent. How does the Front Office come in to play at all?

          • Hoss

            Why is lack of interest in anything newsworthy? Because the source wants to make it that way. Why not a scoop on the Yankees lack of interest in K-Rod?

            • jjyank

              A NY Post writer tweeted something. It’s the offseason and things are slow, so Mike posted it on a Saturday morning. You’re reading way too much into this, and your apparent hatred for the front office is reaching unparalleled heights.

              • Hoss

                Maybe you are right. I think Cashman is a poor excuse for a GM. Without the unlimited pocketbook he has had with the Yankees, he would have been gone long ago from almost any other organization. Now we will see just how poor his judgment is, and recognize all of the damage that has been done to the organization based on his decision making.

                • jjyank

                  Couldn’t disagree more.

                  • Hoss

                    You have your right to an opinion, as do I.

                    • jjyank

                      Never said you didn’t. I do think, however, you should not go all anti-front-office in a mini-post relaying a tweet from a Post writer about not having interest in a player.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      He never said you couldn’t have an opinion on the matter.

                      How you expect someone to be dying to continue a discussion that starts with “Now we will see just how poor his judgment is, and recognize all of the damage that has been done to the organization based on his decision making” is beyond me, though.

                • DC

                  Of course he’s right. You’ve reached the point where you’re just looking to start an argument about the front office no matter how irrelevant.

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    ….and when we get on him for it, then we’re just not willing to engage in conversation with those who disagree with us.

                • MannyGeee

                  How does Cashman not saying anything about interest on a Free Agent that he doesn’t really want or need demonstrate how bad of a GM he is?

                  Are you now just bitching to bitch? At least when my wife bitches just to bitch, she’s looking for attention. I think you’re doing it strictly to be a malcontent…

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Reporter thought of Jim Thome. Asked questions. Response was “no, thank you.” Reporter tweeted it.

              Any further connection to the Yankees exists in the imagination of the reader.

          • Dr. Jake Rosenstein

            Hoss is Randy Levine’s porn name.

    • jjyank

      Where is the joke there? The whole point is that there’s “no interest”. Chill.

      Also, I’m curious why you want Napoli and not Morse.

      • Hoss

        Napoli can catch, even if only a portion of the season. He also will not cost the Yankees players in return. I agree that he has drawbacks, too. I’ve already gone into Morse’s.

        • jjyank

          He might have more drawbacks than Morse. And he can’t really catch. I get that you don’t want to give up players, but we don’t really know what the price is. If it really is Logan, Warren, and a fringe prospect, I’d take Morse of Napoli.

      • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

        Napoli wouldn’t cost any prospects.

        • jjyank

          I know that.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          He’d cost us the prospect of being able to make fun of the team for injury-prone guys less?

    • Steve (different one)

      Richard: It’s called reading. Top to bottom, left to right. Group words together as a sentence. Take tylenol for any headaches, midol for cramps.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      There can be write-ups on any player. It’s ok. The Yankees don’t need to sign someone just because someone wrote about them.

    • Steve S

      Gotta say, I love this idea. Napoli would probably be happy to not go to the Red Sox at this point, with how they’ve been jerking him around.

  • http://Tab Ally

    If our team really wants to win in 2013, they should try to get both. What’s wrong with a little quality and flexibility? This is predicated on one year deals.

    • Cris Pengiucci

      In my response to jjyank, I stated they do need a LH DH. While positional flexibility would help, Thome would mash in YSIII against right handed pitchers. He clearly isn’t perfect. But, as Mike pointed out, if he falls into their lap as ST approaches, there could certainly be worse choices.

  • Jimmy

    Jim Thome’s first strikeout was against Cy Young. FACT.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      His batting average would have been higher if they weren’t still counting balls caught on one bounce as outs when he broke in with the Cleveland Spiders.

      • Steve S

        I don’t know why people say he’s a lock Hall of Famer. I mean, most of his home runs were pre-ground rule double home runs.

  • MartinRanger

    But Ibanez was really different because they judged (correctly) that he could stand up to regular duty in the outfield?

    Thome’s strictly a DH, and between the need to rest injured/old players and the fact that LH power and patience is the one thing this offense is quite good for I cannot see how he would possibly be a sensible use of a 25-man roster spot.

    I just want Morse. He doesn’t have a significant platoon split and could more or less replace Swisher’s offensive production out of the DH/1B/RF role. I know he can’t play defense but that bat is something the Yankees need.

    • Cris Pengiucci

      At the right price, yes, I also take Morse. I’ve lost count on how many roster spots appear to be open, but if Thome fits in addition to Morse on a cheap contract (like Ibanez’s last season), then he would be an OK choice. Just not sure how he’d fit in once A-Rod comes back.

      • MartinRanger

        Right now Nunez is the backup to the entire infield.

        This is not something that fills me with confidence.

        I like our chances of getting some useful play out of Diaz and/or Canzier in part-time roles, but as much as I’d love to have Thome to pinch-hit for the catcher late in games, I’m not sure that’s worth having him on the roster. Of course you could DFA him if he’s not setting the world on fire when Alex returns.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          “Right now Nunez is the backup to the entire infield.”

          Not necessarily true. There are non-40 man options such as Nix who could fill in just fine.

  • MartinRanger

    Also, the Red Sox are concerned enough about Napoli’s hip they are trying to reduce an agreed-upon 3 year deal to one year.

    Why would the Yankees want to take a chance on a player like that? He’s good at the plate, but he’s even less versatile than Morse.

    • MannyGeee

      If its one year, prop him up on a bucket behind the plate from July on for all I give a shit. I wouldn’t touch Napoli with a 10ft pole on a 3 year deal, but for one season go nuts.

      For what it’s worth, no one had faith Russell Martin could catch full time (including the Red Sox) and he did just fine for 2 seasons.

  • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Drew

    I hope the non interest means that they are close or are actively pursuing Morse rather than the Yankees deciding that they have enough players on the roster over the age of 35.

  • paul a

    Jim Thome ? Thats really scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Even for the bottom feeders we’ve become.

    • DC

      Non-interest is scrapping the bottom of the barrel? You should try reading comprehension. It makes reading more fun.

      • jjyank

        It’s posts like paul’s here that make me lose hope in humanity.

        Stay in school, kids. And pay attention in English class.

  • There’s the Door

    At his age, he’ll soon be falling into his own lap.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Nicely played.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I like Thome, even at 42, but it’d be nice to have a bit more flexibility at that position than he would offer.

    If he’s still around for the stretch run, I’d love to see him as depth for a potential post-season run.

  • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

    Sign Thome and Napoli on 1 year deals and you’ve solved the DH and back up catcher problem.

    That would give the Yankees 5 definite future HOFers in Jeter, Arod, Ichiro, Mariano and Thome and possibly 3 more in CC, Pettitte and Cano, FWIW.

  • Vern Sneaker

    Some of you guys are in an awfully bad mood for a Saturday.

    • Havok9120

      It does seem a bit….tense in here.

      Of course, I only rolled out of bed 10 minutes ago after getting home at 730. And I may still be drunk. So I’m probably not the best one to judge the mood of the site.

  • True

    Are they sure? Do they know Thome is 40? maybe they didn’t get his age? Maybe when they find out he’s 40 they will want him.

  • Dan

    Just a thought but what about carlos lee. I dont know if he would sign a 1 year deal but he could dh play 1st to give tex a day off or at least half a day off and if neededhe could also play RF