Saturday Night Open Thread

Posada to serve as Spring Training instructor; no plans for comeback
Matthews: Yankees on Upton's no-trade list

Spring Training is a little more than three weeks away, which is simultaneously awesome and depressing. One of those so close yet so far things. On the bright side, the NHL is back tonight with all three locals in action — the Rangers against the Bruins (7pm ET on MSG & NHL Network) and the Devils and Islanders against each other (7pm ET on MSG+). Neither basketball local is playing and the NFL postseason doesn’t resume until tomorrow, but talk about whatever you want here. Enjoy.

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Posada to serve as Spring Training instructor; no plans for comeback
Matthews: Yankees on Upton's no-trade list
  • trr

    only 3 more football games left, I’m not a hockey fan and I abhor the NBA; time for a Spring Training countdown!

    • Dennis

      Why do you hate the nba?

  • Jimmy

    Hockey’s back. Life is good.

    • Brian

      Totally agree.

      • johnnybk

        Tomorrow is going to be a fucking amazing sports/pizza/beer marathon. Hockey starts at noon, then playoff football, and more hockey.

    • Nick

      ditto

  • Havok9120

    While you guys celebrate hockey and look forward to football, I shall bask in the glow of my team beating #1 Louisville an hour ago. That was a heck of a game.

    • Pat D

      Syracuse still sucks.

      Of course, considering the performances of North Carolina and Notre Dame this year, I have no room to talk. But my hatred of Syracuse goes that deep.

      • Havok9120

        I knew you were an ND football guy. Didn’t know you had North Carolina, too. Ouch. At least ND’s looked good in basketball. Carolina….yeah.

        Which particular awful thing we’ve done to those teams makes you hate my Orangemen though?

        • Pat D

          It’s not anything Syracuse has done to my teams.

          It’s two words: Jim Boeheim.

          • Havok9120

            Wait, really? Why??

            • Pat D

              He’s probably the biggest fucking whiner in the history of college basketball. He’s overrated, being that he’s won all those games but only been to 3 Final Fours and only won the one National Championship (thank you, Melo!). Plus, as a cherry on top, he employed that creep Bernie Fine all those years.

              • turd surfer

                You must hate Penn State.

                • Cool Lester Smooth (formerly YanksFanInBeantown)

                  What good human being doesn’t hate Penn State, or at least Joe Paterno?

                • Pat D

                  Sadly, no. This makes me a hypocrite, I know, but Penn State is going to pay the price for what was essentially the heinous criminal acts of one man, and the ridiculous inaction of four other men.

              • Havok9120

                You know, they dropped the case just last month. Said there was no evidence of abuse. His life is ruined by the accusation of course, but there it is.

                All I can say about his career is that it’s awful hard for me, a baseball fan, to claim that anyone’s career should come down to playoff performance. The NCAA tournament isn’t the crapshoot that the MLB playoffs are, but I think the point stands. Especially when one’s career is that long and at a place that really didn’t get top notch recruiting classes until Boeheim’s reputation started bringing them. *shrug*

                • Cool Lester Smooth (Formerly YanksFanInBeantown)

                  You’re right, the NCAA tournament isn’t the crapshoot that the MLB playoffs are. It’s a much, much bigger crapshoot.

                • forensic

                  My issue with him is his annual cakewalk of a schedule in the non-conference and until January (when maybe they finally leave NY for a game), and yet he’ll never get called on it, but if it were any other school or coach they’d get lambasted to no end for doing that.

                  And now that I think about it, this also could relate to Pat’s comment in that their records are maybe artificially good and so it’s not that they’re falling victim to the crapshoot of the tournament, but that they’re really just not that good.

  • mrdbag

    Any word on the Yankees on the Yankee blog?

    • Austin Aunelowitzky

      Only former Yankees…Russell Martin is a big hockey fan.

  • Hoss

    Hockey is back! Let’s go Eangers!

    • Hoss

      Rangers!

      • Havok9120

        Them too.

        • Andrew518

          My lousy cable doesn’t carry NHL network…

          hockey just not as satisfiyng to watch “play by play” animation as baseball.

          Go Rangers!

          • Hoss

            They need a pep talk from Torts at the intermission. Being outplayed and muscled.

          • Cris Pengiucci

            DirecTV has their NHL Center Ice package free till the end of the month. I also get the NHL Netowrk. Plenty of hockey here! I’ll get my fill this month.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    It fucking sucks that the Devils are on MSG+. It’s basically impossible to watch them without paying more money than I’m planning on spending anytime soon.

    • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

      I can help you with this, but I’m not going to post it on RAB. Hit up my (alt) e-mail.

      KramersAltAccount@hotmail.com

      (Yes, this is something I just created because I couldn’t give two shits if some spambot finds this and destroys it – it also protects my identity.)

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        Hey, thanks a lot, but a buddy of mine already showed me something.

        But I really appreciate the sentiment.

        • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

          Always glad to help.

          The website I speak of also revolutionized my ways of watching football on Sundays. It’s been quite glorious. The Red Zone Channel is, without a doubt, one of the greatest concepts I’ve ever seen.

  • ThatstheMelkyMesaWaysa

    I’m not saying I’ll be happy if the Rangers lose.. But I won’t be sad.

  • Anthony

    Stan Musial passed away today as well. Crappy day for baseball.

    • Pat D

      Oh, wow. That’s just beyond terrible.

      My parents went to visit my sister, brother-in-law and niece today. He probably doesn’t know and I’m about to go tell him. He hated the Cardinals, but always liked Musial.

      • Anthony

        Yea, such a shame. I’m not going to pretend it impacts me all that much, because I wasn’t around when he played ball. His name did come up quite a bit while I browsed the internet for random baseball related things, though. Sad to see a legend go.

    • TomH

      How awful. When I saw my first ball game, taken by my father in 1953, it was primarily to see Musial. We got there a bit late, and Musial was coming to bat when we were taking our seats (in Philadelphia’s Shibe Parkk). He hit the first pitch off the right field wall and went like a gazelle (as the young Musial could) to third. Phillies’ fans can be a tough crowd, brutal in fact. I never saw them so to Musial. The stadium buzzed with anticipation when he appeared in the on-deck circle. Then all got quiet as he went into that coiled, snake-like stance.

      Really one of the all-time super-greats, for the ‘inner’ hall of fame. MLB has a lot for which to answer for having permitted his career to fall into obscurity these past decades. It was shameful of them.

      • Anthony

        That’s a nice anecdote. Unfortunately Musial was way before my time, so there’s no way I can fully appreciate his feats. Like you pointed out, I never once heard his name until I started really delving into baseball & its history this past season. Of course being a Yankee fan I knew all about former greats like Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, etc. I vaguely knew about players like Ted Williams and Willie Mays, too. But nothing on Musial. A quick glance at baseballref and all I have to say is WOW. 3 time MVP, career .331 BA.

    • RetroRob

      Just got home and heard the news. Musial is in the Ruth, DiMaggio, Williams, Mantle class. A rare category of players.

  • Havok9120

    So I had a dream that Mo died at age 49. Now I’ll be scared for the next 8 years that it’s going to happen.

    • Austin Aunelowitzky

      Dreams are RARELY literal. Calm down.

      • Havok9120

        Oh, it’s not like I’ll be freaking out or anything like that. I’m just saying “it’d suck if it was right.”

        Mo, and really all that group, are guys I want to be banging around the organization for the next half century. Guys I can point out to my kids and say “I say them play, and hot DAMN were they good.” Mo dying at 49 would be terrible.

        It’d really break up the 2020 Yankees to lose their closer mid-season.

    • Bob Buttons

      Why 8 years?

    • MannyGeee (Certified Dream AnalRapist)

      Quick track math……

      The 49 indicated San Francisco, and the death is not of him but of his career?

      The Yankess will beat the Giants in the World Series this year. IN San Fran… And Mo will announce retirement that night. You heard it here in Havoks dream AnalRapy first

  • Blake

    Stan was in fact the man…..career OPS near 1 and only struck out 18 times one year in over 700 ABs…..one of the greats

    • turd surfer

      He was The Man. One of the greats and I still think he’s underrated.

      • Austin Aunelowitzky

        I’m going to say no brainer Top 10 all-time. Maybe Top 5.

        • Bob Buttons

          I would give sufficient reason against that but I’m not gonna go through loads of effort to do something like that on a day the guy just passed.

          But here is a list, to serve justice to the guys who are really better.
          Ruth, Gehrig, Mays, Young, Cobb, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Aaron, Mantle, Ted Williams, Grove, DiMaggio, etc.
          And possibly Bonds, Griffey, A-Rod.

          • Austin Aunelowitzky

            I had Ruth Cobb Williams Mays as no brainers. I wasn’t including pitchers. The rest are debatable.

            • Bob Buttons

              Well we can share some thoughts on that in tomorrow’s open thread.

            • RetroRob

              I’m with you. Musial is in a very select group.

          • Evan3457

            Bill James comparing Musial to Williams in his first Historical Baseball Abstract:

            If I had to choose between the two of them, I’d take Musial in left field, Musial on the base paths, Musial in the clubhouse, and Williams only with the wood in his hand. And Stan Musial could hit a little, too.

            He was the all-time MLB leader in MVP Award Shares until Barry Bonds’ needle (or cream or whatever) came along.

            In my mind, Musial is the greatest player in NL history until at least the advent of Willie Mays. Great, great, great player, and by all accounts, a better human being than a player.

            • Blake

              +1

        • Blake

          Fangraphs has him ranked 9th all time in career WAR….right ahead of Rogers Hormsby and right behind Ted Williams…..yea he was one of the best ever

  • Brooklyn Nets

    **** the Rangers

  • Austin Aunelowitzky

    Jeter has something to shoot for. Musial hit .330 in his age 41 season. Holy cow.

  • dkidd

    Stan the Man

    best nickname ever bestowed on a player by opposing fans

  • You should have shot Arod

    Yankees get Thomas Neal from Cleveland. Dfaed for swisher R/R projected with some pop.
    Yeah for the cash ninja.