Jan
15

Tuesday Night Open Thread

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Here is your open thread for this evening. The Nets are playing, but otherwise you’re on your own for entertainment. Talk about whatever you like here, enjoy.

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  1. stu phillips says:

    Lets hope they sell team.!!!!!

  2. Pat D says:

    First night taking a college class in 7 or 8 years. Won’t have to worry about falling asleep because the damned desks are so small and uncomfortable that I’ll be in too much pain. Joygasm!

    • Captain's Gift Basket says:

      Hmmm that’s interesting.

      I graduated a year ago, i was sick of college, and i’ve said like a thousand times that i will never go back to a classroom if it is not because an MBA.

      Of course i could change my mind in 6 or 7 years, so i want to ask do you already have a mayor? what are you studying now?

      • Pat D says:

        I’m back in school after getting laid off by TMobile last summer. We were approved for Trade Readjustment Act funding, so this is pretty much a free ride provided I get good grades. I’m going to be majoring in accounting.

        • NYinTX says:

          Good luck. I know when I was still doing undergrad work, most accounting majors were broken by either Intermediate II or Cost. Get past those two and you’ll be fine. Are you planning on getting a Master’s so you can sit for the exam?

          • Pat D says:

            As of right now, I’d have to say no. I’d consider it down the road, but once I get this done, I have to get a job and get rid of some of the debt I have.

            • Cris Pengiucci says:

              I minored in accounting (was my major and switched out) got past Intermediate II and Cost. Cost has actually come in quite handy in my career. Switched to an IT major. After 20+ years in the field, I should go back for my masters.

    • RetroRob says:

      Just bring your iPhone or tablet and keep checking RAB. That is, unless you’re actually trying to learn something!

      • Pat D says:

        I am trying to learn this time. Luckily my classes are long so there will be short breaks in them. That’s where the phone comes in.

  3. Jimmy says:

    Did we ever establish exactly what the draft pool would be with the extra pick now? Or does it depend on where the other FA comp pick guys end up?

  4. Pat D says:

    Also, just to brag, I had a question answered in Keith Law’s chat session last Thursday. Yea, I know it’s five days later and, yes, I do feel this validates my existence.

    I’d link to it, but I’m posting this from my phone and, let’s face it, nobody but me cares anyway.

    • Preston says:

      Rob Neyer answered my question in an ESPN chat once and I was really excited. You’ve got a lot going on this week, starting school AND getting chummy with KL!

    • jesse says:

      Do you remember offhand what the question was and what KLaw’s response was?

      • RetroRob says:

        Here’s a link to the transript. There’s a question in there from a Pat D related to the general stupidity of Mitch Williams. I’m assuming that’s Pat. I saw Williams’ rant against ERA, sabermetrics and Ivy Leaguers. Williams is an idiot.

        http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/46688

        • Pat D says:

          Yea, that was my question.

          I’ve been lucky enough to have Law answer some questions I sent in the past, too. I think I’ve had Jerry Crasnick and Rob Neyer answer in the past. If I recall, I informed Crasnick that Phil Hughes wanted to be known as “Phil” and not “Phillip,” which everyone on ESPN had referred to him at that point. So I take credit for correcting ESPN.

          I’ve found that if you want to have a question answered in an ESPN chat the best trick is to try and send it right as the chat person answers a question. There’s a better chance he’ll see your question that way.

          I also insulted Wallace Matthews’ intelligence during a chat, for asking questions of Yankees management he knew wouldn’t be answered straight. To his credit, he actually posted it. Only positive thing I can say about him.

          • RetroRob says:

            I’ve only attempted one Wally chat. I asked a question (which he answered), and then he attempted to answer a couple other questions from people. I was stunned at how little he knew about the Yankees. His responses were flat out wrong. Not subjective type of comments where even if you disagree there is a defense. Just wrong on factual knowledge of the team and roster.

            I know we all joke around about him, and I even accept that he has a certain job at ESPN, which includes being highly critical of the Yankees. He is supposed to appeal to a certain element of the base, as well as appealing to non-Yankee fans who follow the team. The way to do that is to write negative articles. It drives clicks. Face it, there’s a reason ESPN hired a NY tabloid writer who used to cover boxing. It’s not for in-depth reporting. Yet that said, I would think would understand the game. He clearly doesn’t and has no interest in learning. He really is paper-thin.

            As for Klaw, I’ve had decent success. Just stay away from the obvious and try asking a question on a topic he’d like discuss, but the average fan won’t toss in. Asking questions about most Yankee prospects will fail since he’s being hammered with them and has almost assuredly written about them. And food. He loves to talk about food. He’s very good on Twitter when it comes to answering questions.

        • jesse says:

          Thanks guys. Yeah, Mitch Williams is a moron. Harold Reynolds sometimes gives Mitch a run for his money, but Mitch Williams is the worst of the “analysts” on MLB Network, in my opinion.

          • RetroRob says:

            Harold Reynolds doesn’t bother me. I know his bias and I don’t expect any type of meaningfuly analysis from him. He’s just a personality. I kind of like him. Mitch Williams is #1 on my list of who I want fired from MLBN. Even ahead of Kevin Millar.

            • Pat D says:

              They don’t call the candy bar “Baby Jimmie Foxx!”

            • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)) says:

              I had the same view on Reynolds as you did, until the other night. It was like 2am and I was watching “Top Second Baseman Right Now” and Brandon Phillips of the Reds was rated as number 5. Reynolds was co-hosting this show and went off on a tangent about how Phillips should be so much higher and blah blah blah, he can hit anywhere in the order. Brian Kenny, the other host stopped him and objectively tried to explain, Phillips is coming off a down year, he doesn’t hit for much power, he only had a .318OBP this season, was 6th among second basemen in 2012 in wOBA. Reynolds just kept riffing and raised his voice to drown Kenny out. It was at that point I realized he was slightly better than Williams but below Plesac on levels of stupidity.

              • Pat D says:

                Do I have to post the donkey clip again?

              • RetroRob says:

                I saw your post the next day on that. Not being able to sleep leading to watching Harold Reynolds. You should have turned on the porn channel, or something like that.

                He was a little over the top, right out of the gamewhen the Shredder picked Murphy for #10. BTW I agree with him on that. There is no way Murphy is my starting 2B’man, unless it’s the Mets and they have no other option!

                Reynolds totally has a man-crush on Phillips. I remember that from last year, too. It almost feels like the segment producer told Reynolds to be combatitive for the sake of it. Yet, he still doesn’t bother me. I mean, he had Phillips above Pedroia. No basis for it. Yet he still didn’t bother me. I think I just like his personality, so I give him a pass. No expectations. I have no expectations from Mitch Williams either, but I don’t like his personality, so I want him gone. Joe Magrane is another that really annoyed me, but he seems to have stopped showing up.

                It’s just a locker-room, frat-house vibe. I keep hoping they add in a few more pros.

          • Get Phelps Up says:

            Al Leiter and Brian Kenny are really their only good analysts. Most of the other guys are just meh, and some others are flat out terrible.

  5. Wayne says:

    Speaking of the draft if we draft Kyle Richter he will be our next sabathia if we draft him! You read it here first!!!!

  6. Comedy says:

    Let’s talk about the fact that the Yankees currently don’t have a Catcher, a DH, a Left Fielder with the strength of a fly, a backup third basemen playing full time, and an Arod who is killing this team with his contract and seems to look like his completely washed up, a center fielder with a hole in his back the size of a black hole in outter space, Not one sole on the bench for backup and not 4th or 5th or if you’re the Yankees no 8th outfielder who can back up. Yea things are looking good for Yankees and their fans.

    Take those ticket prices, hotdog prices and parking prices and shove them where the sun don’t shine.

    • commerce says:

      Solid pitching, including the pen, improved team speed, and some up years by Tex, Youkilis, Gardner, and Ichiro, plus solid work by Jeter, Granderson, and the catcher corps, and we are easily in the playoffs–all of this coming together is not altogether unreasonable. I’m not talking about MVP caliber years, just what’s on the back of the players’ bubble gum cards–

    • Not to be a prick, but your writing needs some work.

    • jjyank says:

      There are too many things wrong with this.

    • steve (different one) says:

      I agree it was a long and boring offseason, but I’m very excited for opening day tomorrow!

    • Get Phelps Up says:

      Call me crazy, but…

      I’m pretty sure the Yankees CF doesn’t have a giant hole in his back.
      Just a hunch.

    • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)) says:

      This post’s grammar is why I weep for the US’s public school system. You realize because of your ineptitude in English caused you to say the Yankees DON’T have a back up third baseman, A-Rod (who is killing the team with his bad contract and looked completely washed up), or a center fielder with “a hole in his back the size of a black hole in outter space(which is, I can only assume a space reserved for otters in outer space).”

      Also, because of your lack of an Oxford comma in your second paragraph/third sentence, it sounds like you’re telling hotdog prices and parking prices to stick ticket prices where the sun don’t shine.

      • MannyGeee says:

        Space Otters, and their superior ability to spin in graves, is in fact the only reason to cheer for the Yankees this season!

        huzzah!!

    • Ralph Melish says:

      You call this comedy? More like tragedy…for all your grade school teachers.

    • Mandy Stankiewicz says:

      Not one ‘sole’ on the bench? No, Trout, Mike Carp, Chester Guppy, and Stuart Marlin, and Tim Salmon all don’t play for the Yankees. We had Catfish Hunter, but geez man, that was eons ago!

  7. Comedy says:

    Owned! ^

  8. Austin Aunelowitzky says:

    Well, that was good news on Soriano. Now I’m waiting for one more RAB Soriano headline…for Alfonso. Yanks trade Warren and a B+ prospect (JR Murphy?) for Alfonso and pick up $12 Million/2 Years. I know I’m starting to beat this death but I like the RH bat to offset all LH OF and see him DH’ing a lot too and I gotta believe they can fit $6 million in 2014 plans with Grandy gone that year.

    • MannyGeee says:

      Honestly, if this happens it will be after Morse and Upton are traded elsewhere. At which time and with enough scotch in me, I could probably be talked into cosigning on that…

  9. Jay says:

    Do the yanks even have draft picks in mind? Who?

  10. commerce says:

    WHO IS THIS GUY?

    OFFENSE: .271 career BA in 562 AB/71 RBI in 562 AB/situational hitter: a) scoring pos b) scoring pos w/ 2 out c) bases loaded [BA higher than team avg in all three situations]

    DEFENSE: C-ERA for 141 starts at C=3.66 compared to team’s 4.02 for 486 games/WL % in 141 starts=.619 versus team’s WL % over 3 seasons .607

    OVERVIEW: This player has been steadily trashed by the front office, the mgr, media, and fans…virtually characterized as “useless” despite performance data above as a back-up catcher at the big league level. WHO IS THIS GUY?

    • Bill says:

      Francisco Cervelli

    • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)) says:

      Back up Catchers are a dime a dozen. That’s why we have 4 on this team, and why nobody is happy about it.

      • RetroRob says:

        No, sometimes a backup catcher costs a useful reliever. And when you can trade a useful reliever for a backup catcher, you gotta do it.

        Just had to throw that in while Mike’s away.

        • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)) says:

          And somewhere George Kontos is laughing at Chris Stewart.

          • Pat D says:

            Isn’t someone somewhere always laughing at Chris Stewart?

            • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)) says:

              Touche, how did/are your first night of classes go/going?

              • Pat D says:

                It was fine. Got out early, which was fine considering this class meets for 4 hours. It was stats and I hope they aren’t lulling me into a false sense of security, because it seemed easier than what I remembered my stats class at Notre Dame being like. I’ll probably find out the hard way next week.

            • matt montero says:

              I’m not laughing at Chris Stewart. He’s getting paid a little less than half of a million dollars to either start at catcher for the Yankees or have a low stress job of backing up the catcher(which means sitting on the bench),working with pitchers,etc. Don’t forget, pretty much any likely player who starts instead of him on the Yankees (Cervelli) will likely make people start calling for Stewart. I would rather that than any other job I hope to get after college. Sounds like a great job.

    • Pistol Pete says:

      Who is this guy, I’ll tell you. He ‘s the guy the Yanks thought so much of that after a couple years of major league evaluation with the stats you cite they sent him to the minors. Since then he’s had concussion problems. Are you really kidding that you think he’s an everyday catcher in the biggest market in the universe and should be expected to catch for the Yankees., please. I’m getting tired of Hal’s amateur hour off season. For God’s sake get a fucking catcher.

  11. Deep Thoughts says:

    Better make some popcorn and get comfy. This should be a fun read:

    http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/.....-conscious

    “Theo Epstein traded for Adrian Gonzalez and signed Carl Crawford following pressure from Boston Red Sox owners to build a “sexy team,” according to a book co-authored by former Red Sox manager Terry Francona…”

    “They told us we didn’t have any marketable players, that we needed some sizzle,” Epstein is quoted as saying. “We need some sexy guys. Talk about the tail wagging the dog. This is like an absurdist comedy. We’d become too big. It was the farthest thing removed from what we set out to be.”

    Francona is quoted as saying that at the Sept. 30, 2011, meeting with owners he said: “If you don’t know what you are doing about me, why am I here? This is a silly meeting. If you don’t want me, just tell me.” The team announced later that day that it was not exercising his option.

    • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)) says:

      In an alternate universe, it was the Yankees who did all these things collapsed and then fired Tito, and the article reads Francona: Yankees Directionless, Cashman Spineless, Stienbrenner in Control

    • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)) says:

      ” “They are interested in good-looking stars and sex symbols” — a reference to All-Star second baseman Dustin Pedroia.”

      Who in gods name thinks that Pedrioa is either good looking or a sex symbol?!

  12. Wayne says:

    Hey you know the oscar nominations came out. I throught jack black got snubbed for the movie ” bernie” . Best performance of his career.
    You usually don’t see him in these kind of movies. The dictator was the funniest movie i thought. Sacha bara Cohen is the best comedían right now i think!

    • Pat D says:

      I’ve heard good things about “Bernie,” but I have not seen it.

      That’s the kind of movie that will almost always get overlooked by the Oscars. Black comedies are hardly typical Oscar fare (notwithstanding the Oscar success that movies like Fargo and American Beauty had).

  13. Pat D says:

    looks around

    Hmm. No Mike. No Tilapia. I guess the shovel already got there.

    I mean……I have no recollection of these events, Officer.

    • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)) says:

      Seriously…this place is a ghost town tonight…

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Boo.

      • Pat D says:

        Dammit! They might say this proves a conspiracy now! You fool!

        Alright, we’ve got no time to lose. Dalek, you shave all your hair off and meet me in Rio de Janeiro next Tuesday night. Tilapia, you go to East Africa, have plastic surgery and meet me there. jjyank, go to Canada and work your way south to Nicaragua by July. I’ll stay here as front man. Give me fifteen minutes, then I’ll blow up the building!

    • Bob Buttons says:

      Tomorrow’s news:
      New York resident found unconscious with blunt force trauma in Ft. Lauderdale
      Police badgering posters at Yankees site

      • Bob Buttons says:

        And of course two minutes later I see my local police appeal for witnesses in a violent carjacking where two males left one injured male abandoned on a roadside.

          • Bob Buttons says:

            I have the gift(?) of having my joking comments about unpleasant happenings turning true, though they mostly come in form of people losing seemingly sure-fire bets and blowing big leads.
            And I could swear once I was watching a game on TV and thought to myself “HR time”, and on the next pitch Frank Thomas (yes, a long while back) hits a homer exactly like I imagined it (to roughly the same spot I imagined it to go to).

            Moral of this whole thing? First check the situation, then joke around.

  14. RetroRob says:

    As expected, four Yankees filed for arbitration today: Phil Hughes, Boone Logan, D-Rob and Joba.

    I’m guessing they’ll come in around:

    Hughes, $6M, up from $3.2M
    Robertson, $2.6M, up from 1.6M
    Logan, $2.5M, up from 1.875M
    Joba, $2M, up from 1.675M

    I’m guessing Joba will come in a little lower than the other two relievers since he missed most of last year. I also got to believe Joba will leave the Yankees after this season. A back-end starter will make more money than a reliever short of closer class.

  15. Paco Dooley says:

    Been thinking about the draft since the Soriano signing was announced. How many quality players come out of each draft, on average?

    There are 750 players on 25 man rosters at any point in time. Not sure what the average length of a Major League career is, but it is clearly well under 10 years. A large fraction of of those 750 players were not drafted (international FAs), so together I guess this means that something like 40-50 players from the draft will get some time on a 25 man roster, right? But only a small number (5, 10, 15?) will actually have quality careers. So a single pick is not worth much. But being able to get more lottery tickets with a higher spending pool has to be worth something…

  16. Horizonal Pinstripe says:

    For those that think Boras is genius – Per MLB trade rumors:

    Agents and GMs are assessing the present day value of Soriano’s deal at $11MM per season, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reports (on Twitter). Half of Soriano’s $14MM salary will be deferred each year.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#jFrrhPUSReVFE50t.99

    Hate to give that guy credit for the full $28mm deal when it’s discounted due to time value of money.

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