Jan
02

Wednesday Night Open Thread

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It hasn’t even been 48 hours yet, but so far 2013 has been pretty awesome to me. Got multiple pieces of good news on a personal level today with more possibly to come tomorrow. So yeah, I’m feeling pretty good right about now. Not as good as Jose Vizcaino probably, but pretty good.

Anyway, here is tonight’s open thread. The Nets are playing and the Sugar Bowl is on as well (Louisville vs. Florida), but talk about whatever you like here. Enjoy.

Categories : Open Thread
  • jjyank

    Congrats on your news, Mike. Whatever it may be. On another note, watching clips from the glory days never gets old.

    • Jacob

      We can only hope to see another team with as much magic and class as the 90′s teams, once again. Unless you count the 09 team because they had some magic.

      • jjyank

        The 90′s dynasty is most likely a once-in-a-lifetime thing. Too many Yankee fans don’t appreciate that.

        • Jacob

          A lot of them also try to extend it farther than it actually went and that diminishes it’s greatness when they do that. The other day someone said it ended after 09…. really?

          • jjyank

            No. In my mind, it truly ended after 2003, though I understand the argument that it was over after 2001. I personally don’t think a looping pop fly to end a game 7 means the end of the dynasty, seeing as they were right back there in short order. Besides, the Aaron Boone moment was just too awesome. But I don’t think you could argue it extends beyond 2003.

            • Jacob

              I can definately see that

            • RetroRob

              I suppose some could say that it ended after 2000 since the team lost the 2001 World Series, but I don’t buy that.

              Where I differ from some is I peg the start as ’94, which is the year of the Yankees’ rebirth after the collapse, and the start of the Gene Michael architected teams, which blended in the farm system beginning with Bernie Williams, trades bringing in players like Paul O’Neil, and free agents like Wade Boggs, which collectively placed a premium in on OBP. That leads to the remaining question of which year to pick as the end, is it ’01 or ’03?

              Now, just for the heck of it, there are those who would argue that the Yankees are still in a dynasty phase, but at the tail end of the most recent dynasty run.

              Interesting bit of timing, but I was just watching Clubhouse Confidential, and they were discussing this very topic, wondering if we’re witnessing the end of the (current) Yankee dynasty. Working off something Bill James wrote (who starts the current dynasty with 1996), over a seventeen year period, the Yankees have averaged 97 wins per season (which is pretty f’ing amazing), made the posteseason seventeen out of eighteen years, won thirteen AL East titles, seven AL Pennants and five World Championships.

              What happens next will probably determine how many Yankee fans, including those here, will eventually view this as the tail end of the most recent Yankees dynasty. Rivera, Pettitte and Jeter are part of the core of home-grown players that drove this winning run, a group that also included Posada and the founding father of that core, Bernie Williams. Mo and Andy appear ready to join Bernie and Jorge on the retirement side after 2013, leaving just one, and even Jeter’s days as a player are running short. If the Yankees go through a mediocre to losing stretch for a few years, and then a new group of players like Austin, Heathcott, Montgomery, etc. form a new core, then I think most Yankee fans will agree with James. We’re witnessing the end of a dynasty that’s been running for the past 17 years (or 19, if you were to ask me.)

              James rated this as one of the three-greatest Yankee dynasty runs, with each one lasting about 17-19 years.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            To me, while the “dynasty” ended in 2001, this era ends when Jeter, Mariano, and Andy retire.

            • Jacob

              Yes, but I those are two different things.

            • https://twitter.com/MattMontero1 matt montero

              I completely agree, but as others have said, it makes sense to say it ended in 2003 instead.

          • Kevin Schappert

            Agreed–After 2001, Yanks took different approach w/signings of Giambi, ARod, Matsui–diff era

        • trr

          a fair point, but there’s nothing wrong in rooting for your team to win it every year

          • Robinson Tilapia

            No one here is saying otherwise.

  • MannyGeee

    *avoiding the obvious “the doctor gave you a pill for it” joke*

    • Jacob

      Or “Congrats your a father”

  • Jacob

    So, what are the chances Swish fails his physical and comes crawling back to the yanks for something cheap? Less than 0?

    • RetroRob

      Pretty much. For a guy who plays a 150 games every year, I don’t see him failing the physical. So, yeah, damn close to less-than-zero. : -)

      • MannyGeee

        Praying for a hangnail or a bad hangover on physical day…

    • Kevin Schappert

      Lets hope not

  • Jacob

    And if YS3 plays like the first, this year is a going to be a title year. History repeats itself .

  • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

    Glad to see Greg Williams was let go by the Rams today.

    I’m not naive enough to think lots of other teams in the NFL didnt also have bounties but to encourage his defense to go after a concussed players head and to go after another players ACL is just reprehensible.

    I really hope the NFL gives him the Pete Rose lifetime ban.

    • jjyank

      I am about the most casual football fan you will ever meet, so I don’t know a whole lot about other teams (and even a lot about my own team, frankly) but that’s fucked up. From where I stand, doing shit like that is far worse than gambling on the game (and it wasn’t even his own games he gambled on).

      On a semi-related note, it’s a damned travesty that Pete Rose isn’t in the HOF, in my opinion.

      • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

        Williams has a reputation as an arrogant, “the rules don’t apply to me” kind of guy, pretty disliked though the NFL.

        As for Pete Rose, I’m in favor of keeping him out until after he dies. Gambling on the game is pretty much the worst thing you can do since it calls into question the integrity of the game. Also, I’ll bet half the reason he wants to get in so bad is because it’s a financial windfall for those guys to be able to sign HOF next to their name. Rose is pretty much a mercenary at this point.

        • jjyank

          Eh, the worst thing? Wouldn’t actually cheating to enhance your performance be worse? Or straight up throwing the game, like the Black Sox? He never gambled on or against the team he was playing or managing. He shouldn’t have done it, but it hardly affected the outcome of anything. He’s the fucking all time hits leader. He’s a bit of a prick, arrogant, and selfish, but I just described a whole ton of famous athletes with those words. He should have been punished, but a lifetime ban and exclusion from the HOF is overkill in my opinion.

          • Jacob

            yea thats what I think. Throwing the game>roids>gambling

          • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

            He admitted he bet on the Reds. If he’s brazen enough to bet on a game he’s managing, is it such a reach to think maybe he bet against his team at some point too?

            • jjyank

              I dunno. But there’s no evidence of him throwing a game to win a bet or anything like that. So is that assumption enough to keep the all time hits leader out of the HOF? I really, really don’t think so.

              • Jacob

                Guy is the definition of hustle and should no doubt be in the hall, now Jim Rice on the other hand…

                • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

                  Shouldn’t be in the HOF but in the hall of “feared hitters”.

                  • Jacob

                    Sounds like a place I would like to visit

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      As opposed to the hall of “feared shitters.”

              • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

                John Dowd did state in an interview that he believes Rose may have bet against the Reds though he didn’t have direct evidence. Also don’t forget Rose himself agreed to the terms of his exile too.

                I’m not saying to never let him in, just not while he’s alive so he can never benefit from the honor of being admitted to the HOF.

                • jjyank

                  That’s too much politicking in baseball for my taste. If a guy deserves to be in the Hall, put him the hell in. If he doesn’t, keep him the hell out. But he deserves to be in. Putting a timetable on his induction because of rumors and an unwillingness to let him benefit/enjoy it just seems petty to me.

                  Pete Rose is already in the damn Hall anyway. Plenty of his stuff is in the building with his name on it. I went to Cooperstown about 2 years ago, and there were confused vistors near me wondering why Roses’ equipment was there, they thought he was banned. His stuff is already there, would it really cause so much harm to put the damn plaque up with the rest of them?

                  • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

                    That is hypocrisy IMO. If MLB has decided he’s permanently banned, all his stuff should be out too as far as I’m concerned.

                    There has to be some kind of deterrent to keep players and managers away from gambling on the game and I think severely limiting or completely eliminating a player or managers ability to derive future financial gain from the sport is as good a way as any.

                    • jjyank

                      I agree that it’s hypocritical, though I’m guessing that his stuff should be taken out to remedy that, while I think he should be inducted to remedy that.

                      I agree to disagree though. It’s a sensitive subject as far as baseball goes, so we’re not all going to have the same view point. But I do think the all time hits leader deserves a shrine, especially when lesser players get one just because they were on a weak ballot in a particular year.

                    • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

                      It’s a technicallity, but his stuff isn’t actually in the Hall of Fame. It’s in the National Baseball Museum, which is connected to both in ownership and physically connected to the Hall of Fame. There are active player’s/non-Hall of Famer’s stuff in there. For example, they have a bunch of Shoeless Joe’s stuff there too.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  All-time hit leader. That’s that. Let him in the HOF. It’s not the Vatican.

                  • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

                    Even if he bet against the team he was managing , which for all we know, MLB already has evidence of or strongly suspects?

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      Put it on his plaque. He’s the all-time hit leader.

                    • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

                      Respectfully disagree though I think it will happen eventually.

                      I just hope it’s posthumous so I don’t have to hear about him selling his memorabilia crap like a street whore selling her ass.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      I guess you won’t be borrowing my “Everyday I’m Hustlin’” Pete Rose shirt anytime soon.

                    • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

                      I’ll borrow it right after Ray Fosse and Bud Harrelson wear it first.

                    • MannyGeee

                      Lemme get that Pete Rose t shirt…

                      also, Ricky Ross…

                  • RetroRob

                    The problem I have with the ban is it was driven by his betting activities as a manager, not as a ballplayer. Rose’s HOF case is based entirely on what he did as a ballplayer, yet his banishment is based on what he did post his playing career as a manager.

                    If MLB wants to ban him from baseball for life because of his gambling activities, I fully understand it, and basically agree with it. That should have nothing to do with if he’s in the HOF for what he did as a ballplayer. Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker (and other players) did something far worse. Both are in the HOF, but there is little doubt that they bet on baseball games they knew were fixed. The evidence was strong enough that both Cobb and Speaker had agreed to leave MLB before being saved. The evidence though did end the executive career of Ban Johnson, easily one of the five most important people in the history of MLB. Johnson didn’t participate, but his knowledge of the activities did him in, yet ironically it didn’t end Cobb or Speaker’s careers. The 1919 Black Sox scandal wasn’t an isolated instance. It was just the most famous. Players in the early years bet reguarly on baseball and threw baseball games.

                    It was certainly known when Cobb and Speaker were elected to the Hall that they gambled on games.

                    • jjyank

                      Good points. I forgot to bring up Cobb.

                      I guess my point is, the line is too blurry. Rose is a no-doubt, shoe-in Hall of Famer, playing wise. Him gambling on a few games as a manager (in an attempt to re-gain the high he got from competing) should not preclude him from an induction, especially when worse morals have been violated, and guys with significantly lesser credentials (Rice is an example) are voted in.

                      To be clear, I’m a “small Hall” guy. And I despise that the likes of Jim Rice have a plaque while the all time hits leader sits on the sidelines. Truth be told, I don’t really give a fuck that he gambled.

                    • RetroRob

                      It’s the inconsistency from the Hall voters that bothers me.

                      As I noted below, I’m hoping for gridlock and that no player gets elected to the Hall this year. That will at least force all the parties to take a serious look at what they’ve done.

                      As for my ideas on small Hall vs. large Hall, I’ll pass on that for now. I’ve waffled back and forth!

  • Luke

    Another day, same aging lineup for the Yankees.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Be back tomorrow. We’re serving ribs.

      • Jacob

        Ehh what do you have for vegitarians?

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Mud and nuts.

          • Jacob

            Oh I see, put the majority of the 189 hundred you got into money for the meat eaters? unfair we need veggy food

            • Robinson Tilapia

              My father-in-law once asked me what raw foods places actually serve, to which I replied “mud and nuts.” This has become a family meme for raw foods.

              My wife’s a vegetarian and actually eat very little meat at home, so know that I’m totally joking.

              I am going to pull a David Chang here, though, and serve bacon on everything.

              (David Chang is the chef for the Momofuku restaurant empire in NYC. He got pissed off at a vegetarian friend once and, as revenge, made sure everything on the menu had pork in it)

              • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

                I have a Chinese place near my job that has awesome vegetarian sesame chicken. I like it better than the real chicken and now I’m gonna have it for lunch tomorrow.

                Thanks for reminding me.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  Vegetarian Chinese can be great. There are few things worse than overcooked, shoe-leatherish seitan, though.

                  • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

                    Is seitan what they use as the meat substitute?

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      If it says “wheat gluten,” it’s seitan. Some places use soy protein or TVP (textured vegetable product.)

                      We cook with seitan a ton at home (even took a class on how to make it once – not worth it) and the taste and texture are something I could do every night.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  I actually think we make a veggie Philly cheesesteak here at home that would convince a meat-eater.

        • Havok9120
          • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

            I fucking love Toby.

            • Havok9120

              He is teh aw3s0m3.

        • https://twitter.com/MattMontero1 matt montero

          Please, try the fish.

  • Havok9120

    So I’m watching the Syracuse-Rutgers game and I’m pretty sure these refs are just not paying attention. I mean, I’m enjoying the way the game is going, but they’ve missed several shuffles and a couple out of bounds plays where they were all just looking in the wrong direction.

    • Mike HC

      I’m watching the St Johns vs Nova game and it looks like they are calling it completely random.

  • Jimmy

    All your base are belong to us.

    • Havok9120

      That’s twice this quote has come up in a month.

      I love it.

  • Jacob

    no no I want to hear this, I must know the secrets to fame

  • Jacob

    If you come here to advertise your fame website, you are a sad sad little man

  • pat
  • Havok9120

    Congrats on win 903 at Syracuse Mr. Boeheim. 2nd all time.

    It’ll be fun to watch him get used to the ACC.

    • Pat D

      Fuck Boeheim. Biggest whiner in the history of college basketball. I mean, I bleed Tarheel blue and people always said that about Dean Smith, but Smith was just so much better than Boeheim could dream of being. Makes me sad knowing how the Dean is slowly slipping away.

      • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

        Do you mean Dean “the only man who could hold Jordan under 20″ Smith?

        • Pat D

          Different time. This was the guy who invented an offense rendered moot by the introduction of the shot clock, after all.

          • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

            The old 4 corners offense. Again, not something supporters of Dean Smith should be too proud of.

            • Pat D

              Why not? It worked for its time.

              The biggest knock on Dean isn’t that, it’s that he only won twice.

              • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

                To me, the biggest knock on Smith is he only won a single championship with teams that had Jordan, Perkins, Matt Doherty, Joe Wolf, Kenny Smith, Brad Daugherty. He should have at least won another by accident.

                • Pat D

                  They probably would have if not for Kenny Smith breaking his wrist in 1984.

                  I always thought 1994 was the bigger crime. He had pretty much the entire championship team from the year before, minus George Lynch, and with the additions of Jerry Stackhouse, Rasheed Wallace and Jeff McInnis. And they lost in the 2nd round to Bill Fucking Curley’s Boston College team.

                  For some reason, he could never figure out how to work the rotation even after 30+ games. 1991, 1995 and 1997 also piss me off to no end, those are the ones that I remember the most.

      • forensic

        It’s January. Guess that means its almost time for them to actually have to leave NY and play a few actual teams…

        I don’t know why it seems like no one ever calls them out on these non-conference schedules he does.

        • Havok9120

          This is the easiest non-conference schedule Syracuse has played in years. I grant you that in the earlier parts of his career our NCS has been weak as heck, but that hasn’t seemed to be true over the last decade or so.

      • forensic

        UNC Basketball, ND Football, NY Baseball/Football.

        Trying to find a common link here but other than winning in the 80′s/90′s, I can’t.

        • Pat D

          I’m originally from New Jersey. I, like most sons, rooted for the teams my Dad rooted for. That’s where the Yankees, Giants and UNC come from. My Dad said he started rooting for UNC when he jumped off the UCLA bandwagon after Abdul-Jabbar left. He picked UNC because he liked Dean Smith.

          I root for ND because I went there for 2 years. Before I considered going there, I absolutely hated Notre Dame, just like my Dad. My Dad rooted for Penn State football because of Joe Paterno.

          • forensic

            Ok, guess that all makes sense.

            I also wasn’t trying to accuse you of front-running, just trying to find the link. Everyone has random rooting interests that don’t seem to make sense on the surface but there’s a good reason for it.

            • Pat D

              Yea, I figured I’d offer the explanation.

              My best friend roots for the Yankees, the Broncos, the Celtics, Florida State football and Kentucky basketball. I’m not sure how most of them came about, though I know he loves John Elway and Larry Bird. He’s from Cleveland and his family loves Ohio State and all the Cleveland teams. He went the opposite direction.

    • Jimmy

      Not a Syracuse fan, but hats off to one of the best of the legendary Big East coaches.

      • Havok9120

        This is my thing. I’m an admitted ‘Cues and Big East fanboi, but I always tip my hat to the guys that make the guys around them look silly. Especially when I don’t like them or their team.

    • Reuben Sierra’s Chains

      Boeheim is pretty cool. Not as cool as Pitino. Go Cards!

  • Pat D

    So a week from today is the HOF announcement. And then next Thursday morning is the Oscar nominations announcement. Saw Silver Linings Playbook today. Enjoyed it, aside from the Eagles worship. Figures to get a few nominations, I’m sure.

    Anyone got predictions for the HOF? To me, it’s insanely impossible to predict what will happen. That being said, I’m going to call Morris and Biggio getting in. Which will be really, really sad.

    • RetroRob

      Biggio?

      I do think Morris will be elected. I’m actually hoping no one is elected to basically force MLB, the HOF and the BBWAA to address an issue they all collectively want to ignore. Gridlock will be good because it can no longer be ignored.

      • Pat D

        Biggio has 3000 hits. I’m guessing at least 75% of the voters still believe that’s significant enough to merit induction.

        I’m not so sure that no one being elected would make them rethink the 10 vote limit, no matter how many of their own constituents write about it.

        • forensic

          I don’t see a huge problem with Biggio. 3000 does count for something. But, at his peak he was also a .400 OBP guy and is top 5 all-time in doubles too. Add to that his two most played positions of 2B and C and it’s a compelling case.

          • jjyank

            I’d vote for Biggio.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Shit, I’d vote for both Biggio and Morris.

              • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

                Biggio, Bagwell, Bond, Clemens, McGuire, Raines, Piazza

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  ….and Pete Rose.

                  • Pat D

                    I’d vote for the maximum 10. My picks would be Bonds, Clemens, Bagwell, Biggio, Trammell, Raines, Piazza, Lofton, Schilling and McGwire.

                    I wouldn’t vote for Pete Rose ever. I know that makes me somewhat hypocritical, since I’m of the “vote for everyone no matter what” mindset. But Pete Rose is such a fucking dick, refusing to think he did anything wrong and continuing to attempt to profit off his notoriety that I don’t think he should be alive to enjoy being inducted.

                    • forensic

                      Lofton’s not a name you hear much, and you have him ahead of Martinez and Walker.

                    • Pat D

                      I’m still torn on Edgar. If I could vote for more than 10, I probably would. Larry Walker just doesn’t have the overall clout for my tastes.

                  • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

                    That made me laugh. If he was on the ballot, I’d have no choice but to vote for him actually.

        • RetroRob

          I wasn’t questioning if Biggio should be elected. I was wondering based on your comment if you thought he should be elected. Based on your comment below you are in the elect Biggio camp, which is where I am, too. Has nothing to do with 3,000 hits. If he finished at 2,900 I’d say the same.

    • forensic

      I gave up caring about the HOF. To much politicking, whining, and hypocrisy all over the place.

      • Pat D

        For some reason, I just can’t. It’s my Ennis Del Mar.

        • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

          I finally watched that movie for the 1st time last night and thought is was good though I think they should have given Health Ledger just a little more dialogue. He was painful to watch at times.

        • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

          I finally watched that movie for the 1st time last night and thought is was good though I think they should have given Heath Ledger just a little more dialogue. He was painful to watch at times.

          • Pat D

            But he got a Best Actor nomination! No, I understand what you mean. I didn’t understand why he mumbled half his lines. I still thought he was good, but it was a little distracting.

            It’s also not a fun movie to watch. One of the saddest movies I’ve ever seen.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        This.

  • Don’t ya know

    There is a straight up brawl going on in the comments at Lohud. Funny ass shit. That Trisha byotch is totally a Cee U Next Tuesday.

    Lohud blows goats.

    • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

      I see Rich from NJ is active on that site. I stopped reading that blog after Peter Abraham defected to the enemy a few years abck.

      • forensic

        Chad Jennings does a great job with the blog. Still worth reading for him, in my opinion. But I have never ventured into the comments section.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          It’s been years for me and, yes, Chad does an amazing job.

          What post is this “war” under? I guess it’s worth reading.

        • jjyank

          Agreed. I still read LoHud regularly, but I never bother to scroll down the comments. My comments are here. I read plenty of other sites, but this is the only one with the balance of traffic and rationality that makes me comment.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I now regret scrolling down and reading the comments. Gosh that was painful.

            The little I read was that this Trisha actually made some reasonable “just because the franchise doesn’t call you up and tell you their plan doesn’t mean they don’t have one” response and there’s this other Shame Spencer who believes otherwise and some side with one and some with the…..I honestly don’t give a shit.

            If this Trisha would talk less about how LIFE IS MORE IMPORTANT, maybe she should come on here instead.

            My eyes are bleeding.

            • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

              If you think that’s bad, read ESPNs comment section on anything controversial. The posts come so fast and the moderators are so aggressive deleting everything that you can get a seizure.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                That,Fox Sports, and MLBTR are just nightmarish. This LoHud stuff was just blah. I mean….would you ever see a detailed discussion of vegetarian food THERE!?!?! :)

                They don’t even have SJ44/Bobcat predicting the future anymore.

                • jjyank

                  You know what might be fun? An organized RAB night, where all of us go there for troll hunting.

                  • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

                    ESPN comments come so fast, you don’t even have time to respond to what anyone else says. It’s like a shit storm of 1 liners

                  • Inprobable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                    That would be AWESOME, let’s pick a blog. Only two rules:

                    1) The people we’re hunting need to be hunted for a good reason, not just because they’re a fan of a team we don’t like.

                    2) We make it clear that we do NOT officially represent RAB.

                    Otherwise I’d have a great time with that.

                    • Get Phelps Up

                      That would be fun. I’ve liked Troll Hunting ever since I started commenting on RAB. I think NESN or ESPN NY would be good.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      Nah. Just let them be. They’re having fun just like we are.

        • RetroRob

          I agree on Chad. I think he’s better than PeteAbe. I read Lohud, but I almost never participate in the comment section, and most of the time don’t even scan it. Lots of crazy going on there. Have no idea who Trish is.

      • Inprobable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        Peter Abraham was really always a Red Sox guy. He also despised A-Rod, as much as he denied it.

        • RetroRob

          You are right on both points. For a media member, I was always surprised by his attitude toward A-Rod.

    • ABC

      Never took the time to register there, but I do read the comments once in awhile. Trisha chick is a freaking pyschopath. Can’t even make the shit up that she posts. Bahama Fright Night…

      I see even RABs very own Teddy Nelson got mentioned over there today. The freaks are constantly out at Lohud.

      • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

        Glad to see Ted spreads his sunshine over there too.

  • Don’t ya know

    There is a straight up brawl going on in the comments at Lohud. Funny, That Trisha byotch is totally a Cee U Next Tuesday.

    Lohud blows goats.

    • Inprobable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      Holy crap, I remember her from back when I read the toilet of a comments section in 09′. Yeah, she manages to piss off the world.

      • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

        I bet she’s Ted Nelson’s female alter ego

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Someone is playing with fire tonight.

          • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

            Our bridge is already burnt well beyond recognition at this point.

            Funny thing is I usually don’t have too much of a problem with many of his points though I feel at times he can be myopically optimistic in defending the Yankees brass. It’s the argumentative nastiness he brings to the table which rubs me the wrong way

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I love how we’re all contributing to a completely meaningless “us versus them” dynamic here just for shits and giggles.

        I heard all NoMaas commenters have incredibly smelly vaginas.

        • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

          LMAO

        • RetroRob

          Yes, I’ve head the same about all the guys over there.

      • ABC

        She irritates the hell out of everyone there from what I can see. They basically all want to lynch her ass. Why Chad doesn’t bring the ban-hammer down on her is beyond me. Probably because she drives up traffic. What a whack job.

  • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

    I’m halfway through the 3rd season of Dexter. What an amazing show.

    • jjyank

      LOVE that show. I haven’t seen the most recent season yet, but I’ve seen all the others. It really is great.

      The only thing that pisses me off, is that I wanted to name the dog I will get in a couple years Dexter. But that was supposed to be after Dexter Holland, the frontman for The Offsspring (my favorite band), but everyone will probably assume I’m piggybacking on the show.

      • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

        That’s funny, I was just thinking Dexter would be a good pet’s name the other day. My current dog is named DJ which is kind of obvious for a Yankee fan

        Dexter is a great pet name either way.

        • jjyank

          I’ll probably still do it, since I’ve wanted to name my dog Dexter since I was like, 10.

          • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

            If you do use “Dexter”, just make sure it’s a substantial size dog, not some 5 pound wimpy lap dog.

            • jjyank

              Oh hell no. Growing up, I’ve never had anything other than a Golden Retriever, minimum 65 pounds. I’m open to other breads, though I will most assuredly get a Golden or a Lab. Either way, fuck small dogs. You don’t need to worry about that :P

              • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

                That’s funny. I have a 95 lb Golden though he needs to drop about 10 lbs. I would never get another breed though the shedding is kind of a bitch.

                I have a friend who has an 8 lb Chihuahua that he named Tyson of all things. I laughed my ass off when he gave that little thing such a tough name.

              • Inprobable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                I used to have a golden retriever. It was healthy at 90-95 lbs. Heaviest it got was 99.5 before we cut back his food intake a bit.

                Currently my dog is 45 lbs, which is the minimum size dog I’ll get. Hopefully it’ll be compensated with years, I’m hoping she’ll be able to reach 14.

                • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

                  I worry about large breeds like Goldens getting hip problems as they age. Mine is only 2 but I want to try and keep him on the lighter side as he gets older.

                  • Inprobable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                    My dog was born with hip dysplasia. He would also eat absolutely anything.

                    The irony is that my new dog is picky as fuck. She doesn’t exercise a lot but compensates by not eating a lot, so she’s very thin. This is good news, because she’s deep chested, meaning when she gets older she’ll be more prone to bloat. But eating slowly will help with that.

            • Pat D

              I love my wimpy 5 pound lap dog.

              It’s tough when you’re allergic to so many dogs, it limits your choices. I’ve really never met a dog I didn’t like, though.

              • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

                All dogs are awesome no matter what the size. I only kid about wimpy lap dogs.

                • forensic

                  I love all dogs too, but I don’t think I could deal with having a little yappy dog that barely shuts up. We did have a Pug for many years though and he was awesome!

                  • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

                    My friend has a Maltese. Very yappy and it insists on being carried around like a baby all the time. Very annoying.

                    • forensic

                      Yeah, that would aggravate me. A Pug had the best of both worlds. Small, adorable, and cuddly for my wife but built like a tank to play and entertaining for me. Worked out great. Even dealt pretty well with the desert climate out here which is tough on them.

                      Just trying to figure out when we’ll get our next one, to mix him in with the baby.

                • Pat D

                  My Yorkie is a wimp and he also thinks he’s tough, so it’s funny to watch him in action.

                  What I love about him is that he’s 8 1/2 years old and he’s pretty much the same as he was when he first came home. Our old Yorkie, who I loved and unfortunately got hit by a car at the age of 6 1/2, had already show signs of becoming inactive. He didn’t play as much as he once did. I think the difference is that our old dog was bred to be a show dog, so he was a snob. Our current dog could never be a show dog because he has, for a Yorkie, freakishly big ears that generally sag down.

                  • Inprobable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                    My dog’s ears are massive. I think the reason is that she’s a mutt. Her mother is a collie. What this means is that ears her size would normally just be floppy ears, probably. But her ears stay up. they’re huge. She’s a very good looking dog, but her ears look ridiculous.

          • RetroRob

            Dexter is now an even better name for your dog since that show came on.

  • Get Phelps Up

    I’m irrationally very happy about Scott Proctor signing with the Giants and getting another chance.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      As long as he does the right thing, signs a one-day contract with the Yanks to finish his career, and actually leaves his arm in his locker before he rides off.

      • https://twitter.com/MattMontero1 matt montero

        Joe Torre will probably hang it over his fireplace.

        • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

          I hope he has a big fireplace because he’ll need to fit Paul Quantrill, Tom Gordon, Ron Villone and Luiz Vizcaino’s arms too.

          • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

            Steve Karsay would wave hi, but his arm still hasn’t recovered from 2002.

    • Havok9120

      You are not alone. I still can’t believe how great it felt when I saw he had another shot with an MLB team.

  • Inprobable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    My top five movies of 2012, in order from most to least favorite:

    1) Les Miserables

    2) Lincoln

    3) (This is where it gets hard)…hmmmm…The Avengers, I guess? I wasn’t as crazy about it as a lot of my friends, although it was really, really good.

    4) I GUESS The Amazing Spider-Man. That was a good movie, fun. I guess I’m a bit biased with this one though since it’s the only one of these movies I saw while still dating my now ex-girlfriend. A good memory.

    5) The Dark Knight Rises. Good, but a bit slow, and it really suffered without Heath Ledger. It just emphasized even more how awe-inspiring his performance was. What he did in “The Dark Knight” was up there with Anthony Hopkins in “Silence of the Lambs”. Absolutely mesmerizing and genuinely terrifying every time he was on screen. This movie really showed how important he was to the movie.

    Numbers 1 and 2 were no brainers, the rest were difficult. It was a good year for movies though.

    Honorable mentions: Anything from “Sherlock”, but those were TV movies, and not from 2012 I believe. I just saw them for the first time this year.

    • Pat D

      I haven’t put together my “Best Of” list yet for 2012 because I haven’t seen a few things yet.

      If I had to pick 5 “Favorite” movies from this year, it would be The Dark Knight Rises, Django Unchained, Lincoln, and……I think I’d go with Ted and Moonrise Kingdom. The Avengers and Skyfall would probably be next.

    • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

      I only saw 4 movies this year:

      1. Lincoln
      2. TDKR
      3. Avengers
      4. Hobbit

      • Inprobable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        Oh wow, I totally forgot “The Hobbit”. That would probably drop “The Dark Knight Rises off the list for me, with all of its flaws.

        • Pat D

          The biggest problem with The Hobbit is that it’s truly an incomplete movie. My biggest issue with it is that it feels way too thin. I have to hold final judgment until the next two come out, but right now my feeling is that stretching it to three movies was unnecessary.

          • Inprobable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

            Abso-fucking-lutely. I couldn’t agree more. That that movie is being split into three is blatant milking of a cash cow and a travesty.

  • Inprobable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    Okay, I have Steam (WHICH IS THE GREATEST THING EVER), and I’m looking for games to buy. During the Holiday deal I bought Portal (which I already owned for PS3 but which I wanted to have for my computer-plus it was $2.50), Psychonauts, and a couple of AMAZING indie games called Faster Than Light and Limbo (If you’re interested at all in horror or scary things like that, GET LIMBO. That shit is terrifying, but in a really good way). I already own Portal 2.

    So, keeping in mind that I’m not actually a “gamer” and don’t like fighting games as a rule, any other suggestions?

    Let me clarify the “no fighting games” bit. For me to play a fighting game, there has to be something about it unique enough for me to look past it. For example, I’m willing to try out Half-Life just because I like Valve and it’s supposed to be ultra-innovative.

    Finally, I know I’ve said this, but I’m obsessed with the Portal games and they are the greatest video games ever. The end. No argument. Also, the Perpetual Testing Initiative is one of the most ingenious add-ons to a game I’ve ever seen. They took a game with basically no replayability and given it the best replay value of any game I’ve ever played.

    • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

      Journey. The most beautiful game I have ever played. Idk if it’s available on Steam, but if it is and you consider yourself a gamer get it. I just realized you said you have a PS3, an I bought it through the PSN, so if not Steam than use the PSN. Half-Life is also a must play I hear. Mass Effect 1 and 2, jj will tell you how great Mass Effect they are.

    • Havok9120

      The current sale includes the two Knights of the Old Republic games. If you are at all a fan of Star Wars (any of them) these games will meet you “unique enough” criteria for games with fighting/violence. KotOR 1 is probably the best classic Star Wars tale ever designed and KotOR 2 is the greyest Star Wars tale you will ever see or hear of outside of the tome that is the New Jedi Order.

      • Pat D

        KOTOR 2 disappointed me so in the climax. It had that “we rushed this in order to get it into stores before Christmas” feel that really took a lot away from the game.

        Oh, and I’m still incredibly pissed off that they never did a third game.

  • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

    I’ve never seen Intentional Talk before because I was pretty sure it was 22 minutes of everything I hate about uneducated sports fans with terrible commercials for them. I have never been more right about anything. They did a segment on guys who aren’t in the Hall that should be, and the guy who isn’t Millar chose Lee Smith. Not a bad choice, 3rd most saves in MLB History, let his league in saves like 6 times, pitched more than one inning on multiple ocassions. Like I said, not a bad choice. But he finished it with “But most importantly, he LOOKED LIKE A HALL OF FAMER!!!”

    • Get Phelps Up

      The only MLBN shows worth watching are Prime 9/Countdown, MLB Tonight (just for the highlights) and Clubhouse Confidential. The rest is total crap.

      • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

        I love Prime 9 and Clubhouse Confidential.

      • forensic

        Completely agree. I tape Clubhouse Confidential everyday, but I have two issues with Brian Kenny (who I’ve liked all the way back to his Friday Night Fights days). He doesn’t seem to know the meaning of beating a dead horse and too much HOF stuff for me (and of course the two of them blend together a lot for him).

      • Pat D

        Yep, Prime 9, Countdown and Quick Pitch is about all for me anymore. Sometimes MLB Tonight before it becomes Quick Pitch.

        They’ve pissed me off with some of their Countdown shows, though. They had some recent ones like Best World Series Plays/Moments, Best Plays of the 2000′s or other shit like that, and they’ve constantly totally ignored Johnny Damon’s double steal. It was more than qualified for a few of them, and it’s as if that play has been erased from memory.

        • Get Phelps Up

          I forgot about QP. That’s one of my favorites too.

          • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

            I prefer Quick Pitch to MLB Tonight because it doesn’t have all the fluff of MLB Tonight, just highlights.

            • Pat D

              Yea, it generally won’t have Dan Plesac and Mitch Williams trying to out-idiot each other.

              And that’s not even bringing up their other “analysts.”

              • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

                If I had a nickel for every time I wanted to punch Mitch Williams in the face, I would have a nickel for every time he spoke, and I also would be a very wealthy man.

              • Get Phelps Up

                You forgot noted Yankee Hater Joe Magrane.

                Their only good analysts are Kenny, Leiter, Bill Ripken and Rosenthal the rare times he’s on.

                • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

                  I’m hit or miss on Ripken. He’s pretty good, but I feel like he plays favorites and is a little hard headed for my taste. Example: during MLB Tonight they did a silly “resolutions” thing and his was Strasburg’s resolution should be to throw 238 innings because “I don’t wanna hear about pitch counts and inning limits w/ this guy in 2013, this is how much Verlander threw last season so I expect it from Strasburg.”

                  • Get Phelps Up

                    Yeah Ripken will say the occasional stupid thing but he’s not obviously biased (like Magrane) or just plain stupid (like Williams, Byrnes, Plesac, etc). I also liked Mike Lowell when he was in the studio, which surprised me.

                    Of course, nothing will beat a YES booth of Singleton, Cone and Leiter.

    • RetroRob

      Intentional Talk is the the show I want cancelled on MLBN!

      • Pat D

        Only one way that happens: we rise up and slay Kevin Millar!

        Honestly, the fact that he has any kind of job like that is beyond me. It’s as if someone took pity on him because he was never allowed in the MLBPA. Ah, but we’ll always have his hilarious performance in that ridiculous Fenway “toast.”

        • Havok9120

          He and Pedro giving that drunken-ass toast before then seeing the Red Sox awful season encapsulated in a single game is probably my favorite anti-Red Sox moment in baseball history.

  • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

    Great argument on Clubhouse Confidential:
    If Jack Morris is a Hall of Famer how is Micky Lolich not? Mickey is actually slightly better than Morris.

    • Get Phelps Up

      He didn’t throw a 10 inning shutout in the World Series.

      Like it or not, that’s the reason.

      • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

        Lolich out pitched Bob Gibson the one time he made the World Series. 3-0 w/ 3 complete games and an ERA of 1.67 beating Gibson in game 7 of the 68 World Series. That’s just as impressive IMO.

        • Get Phelps Up

          Oh absolutely. I’ve kinda soured on the Hall in general since baseball’s all time hits leader isn’t in because of gambling and baseball’s all time HR leader probably also won’t get in because he took steroids at a time where probably at least 40% of his competition was also taking steroids. Meanwhile Ty Cobb is in and he did things much worse than take steroids and gamble.

          • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

            I agree completely. I personally think all three (Rose, Bonds, and Cobb) should all be in the HOF. I still loved the Museum, and it still has to be the greatest honor a player can receive, but at the same time it’s way to political at this point. Morris and Lolitch is just one of a hundred arguments of writer’s biased towards borderline players that are in/on the ballot vs. comparable players that the writer’s don’t like for w.e reason.

            • Get Phelps Up

              Yep. I think the Baseball Hall of Fame should be solely about what players did on the baseball field.

      • Pat D

        Bingo.

        There are other guys you could substitute for Mickey Lolich in that argument, too. Guys like Luis Tiant and David Cone leap to mind. Then I go to BRef to see who else is ahead of Morris in WAR, and the list is just too long, frankly.

        • Get Phelps Up

          CC already has more fWAR than Morris did (61.6 to 56.9) and CC’s only 32.

  • Pat D

    By the way, there’s a comment in the Delmon Young thread that must be seen to be believed. That being said, by the time most of you see this, I’m sure it will be deleted.

    • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

      Wow, you are not kidding. I hope not many people get to see that because fuck that guy, he doesn’t even deserve people getting to read that vile bullshit. Let alone being able to elicit responses from us, which is exactly what he wanted us to do.

    • Get Phelps Up

      Yeah, that’s as bad as it gets. Why people would do that is beyond me.

      • Pat D

        Being the cynic that I am, my answer to your question is this: People suck.

        I remember Tolkien: “Many that live deserve death.” Perhaps I’m being too cruel but, in that case, I don’t think so.

        • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

          I don’t want to come out and say we should take Tolkien’s words literally, just that I have spent a lot of time in chatrooms of the old net and comment sections of the new net and that after all of this experience in dealing with people speaking with Anonymity…maybe Eugenics based on intelligence wouldn’t be the worst idea when I take over as supreme dictator of the world.

          • Pat D

            You’ll have to topple my forces first!

            Or perhaps we can work together?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Read it. Should be deleted. Let’s not make a huge deal out of it. Some folks actually do think that way. We know its out there.

      • MannyGeee

        Yeah, this. Should be gone, but NoMaas damn near makes an internet career off commentary like that.

        So here we are.