Open Thread: 2/12 Camp Notes

Notes from Joe Girardi's start-of-camp press conference
Update: Yankees join Ticketmaster to form Yankees Ticket Exchange
Michael Pineda threw off a full mound today. (John Munson/Star-Ledger)
Michael Pineda threw off a full mound today. (Star-Ledger)

The first day of Spring Training, when pitchers and catchers report, isn’t exactly the busiest day as far as news go. I’ve already recapped Joe Girardi‘s press conference, but here are some other random notes from Tampa…

  • Yogi Berra won’t be in camp as a guest instructor this year. He is in good health and plans to be at the Stadium this summer, but traveling down to Florida is a bit of a chore at 87 years old. Jorge Posada, however, is in camp as a guest instructor. [Dan Martin & Bryan Hoch]
  • CC Sabathia said having elbow surgery to clean out a bone spur in October was “a relief.” He said he has better range of motion and doesn’t feel an “ache” when he extends to finish pitches. Sabathia is down to 290 lbs. and called it his ideal weight. He’ll throw his first bullpen on Thursday. [Jack Curry & Hoch]
  • Austin Romine dropped 13 pounds this winter and his back feels “absolutely fantastic.” He, obviously, has a golden opportunity to make the team this spring. [Chad Jennings & Hoch]
  • If you care about uniform numbers, then you’ll be happy to know Frankie Cervelli reclaimed his old #29 now that Rafael Soriano is gone. David Phelps switched to #35, which Michael Pineda wore last spring. Pineda switched to #43. [all Mark Feinsand]
  • Kenji Nimura, who served as Hiroki Kuroda‘s interpreter with the Dodgers and last year with the Yankees, is now doing the same job with the Rangers for Yu Darvish. I’m sure the Yankees dug up a capable replacement. [David Lennon]
  • And finally, Mariano Rivera has received permission to report to camp late. He’ll be in Tampa tomorrow. Nothing new here, this has been going on for years. [Jennings]

Here is your open thread for the night. The Rangers and Devils are both playing, but talk about whatever you like here. Enjoy.

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Notes from Joe Girardi's start-of-camp press conference
Update: Yankees join Ticketmaster to form Yankees Ticket Exchange
  • vicki

    kind of sad about yogi. anybody who hasn’t read ‘driving mr. yogi’ oughta. two of the top ten people on earth you’d like to be friends with.

    but jorgie’s presence will compensate some. i heart jorgie.

    • RetroRob

      What’s Gator to do for his dinner plans?

    • jjyank

      I have that book, actually, just never got around to reading it. After this comment, I’ll make it a priority.

      *places book on top of toilet seat*

      There we go.

    • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (formerly Aunelowitzky)

      Thanks for the rec…I’ll grab that book and check it out.

  • MANNYGEEE is being serious… BECAUZE HE’Z IN ALL CAPZ!

    So, CC is done to his pre-traveling and eating like shit weight as per the usual off season routine. He’s gonna be 200 pounds when he retires. Unless he takes a job with a team in a coaching capacity, in which case he’s gonna go the way of Joba The Hut

  • Preston

    Seriously how dumb are the Dbacks “Gregorius did not take a physical at the time of the trade”, people call out the Yanks for buying “damaged” good in the Pineda trade. But they actually did unknowingly trade for damaged goods. Even if you want to make the deal regardless use the medicals as leverage to get more.
    http://www.freep.com/usatoday/.....dyssey=mod|newswell|text|Detroit%20Tigers|s

    • Govin

      That’s just plain embarrassing.

  • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew)

    What’s crazy to me is that 290lbs to CC is the ideal weight. My ideal weight is 175, that guy is a monster of a human being.

    • jjyank

      Well, I’m assuming that you’re not ~6’7”. I;m 6’2”, and my ideal weight is in the 200-210 range. Doesn’t seem all that crazy to me that an extra 5 inches means an extra 80 pounds or so. That’s on the high end, for sure, but he’s just a big dude.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        It’s not just the height either, it’s the width. His shoulder are frickin’ huge.

        • http://www.twitter.com/JoeRo23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          Must have been hard for you to post this comment without taking a shot at Ichiro.

          (Am I doing it right? Read a few comments today and I think I’m doing it right.)

          • Havok9120

            Well played, sirrah.

            • http://www.twitter.com/JoeRo23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              (curtsy)

          • Robinson Tilapia

            It’s there. You have to stare at the comment for a while.

        • Havok9120

          Yeah, I’ve got fairly broad shoulders but CC is in a whole ‘nother league.

      • RetroRob

        Unless the picture Mike posted in last week’s chat is the opposite of “fat Jeter,” then it sure looks like he lost more than 30 pounds. So if he really is at 290 now, then he might be 330+ range during the season.

        For someone to be 6’7″ and as big and broad as CC, 30 pounds would not show as it would on the rest of us. This looks like he shed at least 50 pounds, but then again, maybe it’s just a photo illusion like it was with Jeter.

        https://twitter.com/espnSteveLevy/status/299674491754250242/photo/1

        • MANNYGEEE is being serious… BECAUZE HE’Z IN ALL CAPZ!

          Worth mentioning the Yankees FB page had a picture of CC from today and he looks great. No photoshopping, he’s damn skinny

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
            • RetroRob

              Yeah, I mean the loose, blue tops the Yanks wear in ST are more forgiving, but it’s clear he’s dropped more than 30 lbs., no matter what he says. Maybe he’s 30 pounds lighter than last ST, but 50 since the end of last season. I just saw somewhere else that CC said he’s only down ten pounds from the end of last season. Come on, CC!

              More interesting is he indirectly pretty much said his arm bothered him the entire second half of last year, but feels good now as he doesn’t feel the ache that he felt last year, and believes he should get better extension on his pitches.

              • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (formerly Aunelowitzky)

                His left elbow dropped 10 lbs when they took out the bone spur.

              • Govin

                Kinda makes me wonder if CC will gain some of the velocity back that he had lost last year.

                • RetroRob

                  Maybe, unless he lost too much weight, although that’s driven by leg and arm strength.

                  His velocity wasn’t down dramatically, but it was down. If the elbow was preventing full extension, I think there’s a chance he could gain it back. He’s a lefty, though. I worry less about velocity loss than I would a righty. Still plenty there even if he stays at what we saw in 2012.

                  • Govin

                    Your right about that, he definitely has the stuff to pitch on lesser velocity. Andy Pettit proved last, year that you don’t need velocity to succeed

            • Bob Buttons

              Seeing CC as skinny (relative to his old size) as that reminds me of this.

              http://mlbmemes.com/2012/12/04.....-jeter-or/

      • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew)

        I am 5’7

        • jjyank

          So, yeah. Not really comparable.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          So am I. 175 seems high for our ideal weight.

          • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (formerly Aunelowitzky)

            I’m 5’10” and 175 is my ideal weight (unfortunatley tipped the scales at 178 this morning.) It all depends on body type as much as height.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              All this ideal weight talk and not one juvenile dick joke.

              • jjyank

                ….I’m waiting.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  Pretty much anything above could have ended with “yeah, I weigh 220, but half of it…”

                  • jjyank

                    Penis.

                    • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (formerly Aunelowitzky)

                      Long Duck Dong.

    • Havok9120

      Yeah, it’s weird to think about. Even with me just 1 6’5″-6’6″ I gain and lose 10-20 pound increments fairly frequently (and often without noticing), and my “natural” size is nowhere near CC’s.

    • MANNYGEEE is being serious… BECAUZE HE’Z IN ALL CAPZ!

      It is amazing that his ‘ideal weight’ is the weight that would cripple just about everyone else on th…..

      *realizes he’s saying this to a bunch of dudes posting on a sports blog*

      *backing away slowly….*

  • Havok9120

    I saw the Open Thread titled as “Camp Notes” and my heart skipped a beat. I forgot about the daily camp notes in the Open Thread.

    Baseball is officially back! w00t

    • Barry’s Gift Basket

      I know what you mean, it felt good.

  • trr

    would LOVE to see Romine make the team out of spring traing!

    • Barry’s Gift Basket

      Yes please.

      • jjyank

        I’ve been on the record before saying that I’d like to see this as well. He’d have to earn the shit out of it though, of course.

        • Barry’s Gift Basket

          Yep, because if all of them suck (and remain healty) in ST, i think the Yankees are taking Stewart and Cervelli north.

          • jjyank

            Yeah, I think you’re right. I just think that Romine at least offers some upside there, though. By no means do I want the Yankees to hand him the job, but I would really love nothing more than to see him force their hand.

            • Barry’s Gift Basket

              Sure, he offers more upside than Cervelli and Stewart.

              Didn’t he cracked some (as in all) top 100 prospects lists a couple of years ago?

              And another question came to my mind, who was a higher rated prospect Romine or the one of the red sox (Lavarnway)?

              • Preston

                Romine was number 98 in the 2011 BA rankings after a nice showing in his first season at AA. I don’t think Lavarnway was ever ranked, but with Romine’s injuries I think a lot of people consider him the better prospect now, although there are legitimate questions about whether he can stick at C (and his bat isn’t good enough to play elsewhere).

  • forensic

    Hooray for baseball being back!!!

  • Now Batting

    I’m sure this will roll some eyes, but if Pineda is throwing off a full mound already (and he looks like he’s extending it pretty well) doesn’t the all-star break sound overly conservative?

    • MANNYGEEE is being serious… BECAUZE HE’Z IN ALL CAPZ!

      Anything in 2013 (considering the possibilities of setbacks) is optimistic, IMO. Got to think of him like Aardsma of 2013.

      • jjyank

        I’m not so sure about that. I think the all-star break is very possible, not necessarily optimistic. I think whatever we get from Pineda in 2013 is gravy, but I’m pretty sure we’ll get something.

        • Barry’s Gift Basket

          Agreed, we’ll get gravy, wait and see.
          Nevertheless, this is not the most important year for Pineda in pinstripes, is next year.

    • vin

      Without doing any research on pitchers recovering from labrum surgery… yes, the All-Star Break sounds very do-able. I think its a hope for the best, prepare for the worst kind of thing.

    • CountryClub

      The Drs last yr said he’d be pitching 12 months after surgery. Sounds like he’s perfectly on schedule. The yanks will probably go slower than they should, but that’s understandable. But to answer your question, it sounds like he should be pitching in the minors well before the break.

      My guess is that the yanks hope they don’t have a glaring need in the staff. Hopefully everyone stays healthy and Hughes, nova & phelps can handle the 4/5 spots. Yanks probably would be happy if they could keep him down there until Sept call ups. I’m sure Pineda would not be happy, ha.

    • LK

      If I had to guess (and keep in mind this is entirely made up bullshit), he probably won’t really be airing it out for quite some time.

    • Laz

      They will probably sit him in AAA for a month at least after he gets off the dl. If they do that they can get back the extra year of team control.

  • forensic

    Just have to say, good riddance finally (it appears) to Christopher Dorner.

    • Matt

      ditto, the deceased cops and their families are in my prayers

    • RetroRob

      CNN mentioned earlier that some 84-year-old woman was watching the broadcast and noticed it was her home Dorner was holed up in. Wonder how she feels seeing it burn to the ground on TV. Her son is also a firefighter, which a bit ironic.

      I sure hope she doesn’t have Allstate as her insurance. They’ll probably refuse to pay out for the home after they tell her she didn’t have the “act of police department” rider. Yeah, they suck.

      • forensic

        It may suck, but they’re doing the right thing so she’ll have to understand.

        If he was somehow still alive and her son went there to put out the fire, I bet she’d be less happy if he didn’t make it out alive, or even if he was just caught with exploding ammunition or whatever else might be in there with him.

        • RetroRob

          I wasn’t questioning the act. If it was my home I would understand, although I would not be happy! Considering this is not even her primary home, I’m guessing she’ll be fine until it’s rebuilt, if she even bothers. She still owns the land, and that’s the value.

          I, however, stand by my comments regarding Allstate.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Maybe we should just leave it at “this would be a hard one to relate to….”

          • Laz

            I would be pissed. Sure it’s understandable from the outside, but a home is often someone’s entire life’s possesions.

            • forensic

              Yeah, but it’s still just possessions. The lives of the Police and Fire personnel take priority over that.

  • djyank

    hey axisa,

    mike carp post in the morning, k?

    he’s got some pop

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      What are they supposed to do with him? Bat him tenth as the second DH?

      • Robinson Tilapia

        You and your fucking Ichiro. I swear.

      • djyank

        didn’t you say girardi announced earlier that he is still looking for a RH DH during camp?

        • forensic

          Mike Carp is a lefty batter.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          He’s a lefty.

          • vin

            Oh what… he can’t learn to bat lefthanded? I thought he was a friggin’ professional.

            • vin

              *righthanded*

              DOH!

        • jjyank

          *reads above comments*

          You’re handle is too similar to mine.

          • vicki

            dance-off.

            • gjyank

              ruh-roh.

  • Barry’s Gift Basket

    Man, Pineda throwing of a full mound!!
    There is hope fellows.

    • barry

      I still can’t wait to see him pitch , I think he’ll finish his career being more valuable than Montero.

      • Laz

        I’m interested in seeing how Montero is on Defense. I still think the trade isn’t lost.

        • vicki

          someone witty on rab pointed out last season that montero and noesi have negative WARs; pineda and campos, of course, totalled zero.

          yankees win the trade!

  • Dalek Jeter

    It’s officially a new season, the new (and permanent) handle is it’s own now.

    Baseball is now officially almost, almost back. Best part about this season is I’ll be able to watch most of the games if I eschew my (potential) social life because I’m not working Monday-Wednesday nights this season. So the douche who complained about me constantly complaining about Suzyn and John won’t have anything to post about this season :)

    • RetroRob

      Who are you? : -)

      • Dalek Jeter

        Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle, formerly The Plouffinator, formerly Chen Meng Wang.

        • Herby

          Talk about multiple personality disorder

        • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (formerly Aunelowitzky)

          I’m getting ready to drop my former alias as well but he kept yours for like 8 months, no?

          • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (formerly Aunelowitzky)

            *you not he

            • Dalek Jeter

              No, like 2 or three, I came up with it shortly after the season ended and decided to keep RI AKA TMR till the season started.

        • RetroRob

          You’ll always be Plouffy to me.

          I think I’ve been Retro for a couple years now. Perhaps it’s time for a new name, but then I might confuse myself again and start responding to my postings!

          • Robinson Tilapia

            You eventually become “ClassicRob.”

            What about *gulp* me? I can’t give this up.

            • jjyank

              What’s wrong with “Fish Fingers”?

        • Now Batting

          I never got any of your other handles so I guess it’s fitting I don’t get this one either haha.

    • Herby

      So…please, please complain about Kay and Flaherty

      • Dalek Jeter

        There aren’t enough greater than signs to emphisis how much better than John and Suzyn Micheal and John are.

        • Herby

          Maybe, but they still suck.

    • jjyank

      You’re still Plouffy to me.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Always.

    • Pat D

      Who are you? Why are you here?

  • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (formerly Aunelowitzky)

    Better than watching the SOTU address is watching the VP and The Speaker respond to what he’s saying….so funny.

    • forensic

      Flipping back and forth between the basketball game and that on the commercials. I know they’re mostly all a bunch of self-serving dumbasses, but some of the things people there refuse to applaud.

      Better childcare and early education? BOO!!!

      • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (formerly Aunelowitzky)

        With you Brutter…

      • forensic

        ‘refuse to applaud baffles me…’

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Basic politeness takes a back seat to the possibility Drudge might post a screencap of you smiling.

      • Buzz

        Some of the things that people applaud are pretty damn stupid as well.

        Take money from the rich and give to lazy people? WOOHOO!!!!!

        • forensic

          Ugh, just had to go there didn’t you?

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I guess I’d care more if I had any fucking connection to this person, but I don’t.

          • Jim Is Bored

            Yeah I don’t remember Obama saying anything about that.

            Reasonably people can disagree on his policies, but…not when you oversimplify.

  • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (formerly Aunelowitzky)

    Mike Piazza on the Daily Show tonight…

  • barry

    Superhuman x12 on Tosh.0 was pretty classic. Got beat out in about 5 seconds by that transvestite.

  • Mickey Scheister

    So after some researching I’m about 99.8% that CC could out produce Stewart in almost all offensive categories. I know that defense is important but a large part of me is hoping Romine or Sanchez get rushed because I’m fairly confident that they could out produce the current tandem.

  • OldYanksFan

    PECOTA – American League, ranked by projected 2013 record
    AL East Updated….. W.. L. RS.. RA.. AVG .OBP .SLG. TAv
    New York Yankees. 92 70 804 691 .263 .332 .416 .268
    Boston Red Sox…… 86 76 807 757 .263 .332 .430 .269
    Tampa Bay Rays….. 86 76 736 685 .244 .323 .397 .269
    Toronto Blue Jays.. 85 77 786 746 .261 .326 .432 .268
    Baltimore Orioles.. 74 88 711 782 .256 .319 .419 .261

    • Mickey Scheister

      But….but….but…I thought the Jays were gonna score 1000+ runs!!!!!???!

      • Bob Buttons

        And their super awesome pitching that will stay healthy and/or mature and have a 3.50 ERA!!

    • vicki

      sounds about right.

    • Hardy

      This doesn’t seem right.
      The Yankees SLG is .014 below the Red Sox SLG, but the Yankees score only three runs less.
      The Yankees have an advantage of .002 in AVG and .006 in OBP but trail .016 in SLG compared to the Blue Jays, yet the Yankees are supposed to score 18 more runs.

      • Cris Pengiucci

        I’m more surprised at the improvement PECOTA projects for the Red Soz. I just don’t see tham doing that well. (Then again, I’ve done no professional research to base this on.)

        • Hardy

          Yeah, as good as the Blue Jays is definitely on the very optimistic side of their projections. Current projections based on CAIRO see the Red Sox as 82 win – that seems more plausible to me:

          http://www.rlyw.net/index.php/.....3_projecte

  • Paco Dooley

    Seeing Pineda on the mound makes me think that a strong return to form by Pineda could really save this teams rear.

    I still see them as a roughly 90 win team, but if their pitching can play at the top end of their projections, then this team could push well into the 90s. I think Kuroda and Pettitte will regress, but imagine the *potential* if they do not, while Nova returns to form, Hughes remains solid and Pineda comes back in June and is dominant (CC, Kuroda, Pettitte, Hughes, Pineda and Nova – 6 potentially very good starters).

    • Mainer

      Nova returning to form is a must. The kid lost the best part of his game last season….HIS GUTS.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        So he just shits out food whole now? Ouch.

      • Cris Pengiucci

        Well, Nova or Phelps performing well is a must. If Nova performs as he did last year, then Phelps needs to be good enough to replace him (and then some).

        Unless, of course, the unthinkable happens and CC pitches like we know CC can, Kuroda repeats last season’s performance, Pettite pitches like he did as well, but without the injury, and Hughes shows that he’s a solid MLB pitcher. Then, Nova’s performance from last season will be just fine, but we all know none of these guys can repeat what they did last year. So yeah, Nova is the key.

  • Mainer

    Very glad to see Pineda progressing. Still have high hopes for him