Open Thread: 2/26 Camp Notes

DePaula & Avelino among top Dominican Summer League prospects
Joba and his non-future with the Yankees
Rained all over Florida today. (AP Photo/Matt Slocum)
Rained all over Florida today. (AP Photo/Matt Slocum)

The Yankees lost to the Phillies this afternoon, their third consecutive defeat in Grapefruit League play. Ichiro Suzuki went 3-for-3 with a stolen base while Mark Teixeira (double), Travis Hafner (single), and Matt Diaz (single) all had one knock apiece. David Robertson and Joba Chamberlain both make their Spring Training debuts with relatively uneventful (and scoreless!) innings.

The MVP of the day was catcher J.R. Murphy, who came off the bench to hit a two-run homer to dead center and then a double off the wall in almost the exact same spot. On the other hand, right-hander Zach Nuding gets LVP honors by allowing two dingers — including this monster shot by Domonic Brown — and three runs in an inning of work. Oh well, shake it off. It’s only February. Here’s the box score and here’s the rest from Tampa…

  • As always, Chad Jennings has the workout assignments for the guys who didn’t play in this afternoon’s game. Andy Pettitte threw live batting practice while Hiroki Kuroda and Boone Logan each threw a side session.
  • Within that same piece, Jennings notes that Joe Girardi had no update on Phil Hughes (bulging disk), who continues to work out in a pool. No news is good news, I guess.
  • Following the game, Joba told reporters he still thinks he can be a starter. “Do I think I have the capability to start? Yes. Do I have four pitches that I can throw for a strike? Yes,” said the right-hander. No doubt that’s on his mind with free agency nine months away. [Andy McCullough & Erik Boland]
  • Nik Turley will start against the Orioles at home in George M. Steinbrenner Field tomorrow afternoon, and that game will be broadcast on YES.

Here is your open thread for the evening. The Rangers, Islanders, and Nets are all playing tonight, so talk about those games or anything else here. Enjoy.

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DePaula & Avelino among top Dominican Summer League prospects
Joba and his non-future with the Yankees
  • trr

    J.R. Murphy…the legend begins

    • smurfy

      I like the ring of that, but it’s the time of mediocre “fast” balls. So, clung!

  • Barry’s Gift Basket

    Yes Joba, you could’ve been a good starting pitcher for the Yankees… They messed that up.

    • Bob Buttons

      I blame Ron Guidry (also with Igawa) and Dave Eiland.

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        No way.

        The BS Joba rules and the decision to never give him a chance again to start after 2009 came from way higher up than the pitching coaches.

        • Ramondo

          “Jackasshman”!!

        • Bob Buttons

          If the pitching coaches fixed him a bit or helped him do better he’d have a chance. It’s not like it’s the first time the Yankees said “fuck this” after a prospect didn’t wow them in the first full year in a role.

          • The Big City of Dreams

            That’s why I’m trying not to get hyped up about the next wave of kids coming because I just feel they will botch it somehow.

          • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

            Considering his age inexperience, he did fine in his year as a starter.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              YOU ARE CONFUSING ME!

              • Manny’s BanWagon

                I just realized my old handle was defaulted on my son’s iPad.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  Good thing you didn’t use my son’s IPad. You’d be playing “Scout’s ABC Garden” and watching YouTube videos of choo-choos.

                  • Mike HC

                    “and watching YouTube videos of choo-choos”

                    I’m calling child services

            • The Big City of Dreams

              No no he was given a chance and he failed – Cashman

            • Larry B.

              Yes in retrospect this is very true. I think a lot of people and probably the Yankees FO looked at is bad compared to his dominant bullpen work.

        • smurfy

          yeah, whoever told him to stare at the place he meant to throw it, then lick his fingertip, and feel for the wind, he screwed him up. Seems to do MUCH better with sss, fellers. (Hyuck!)

          • smurfy

            I’m going to Chicago. Oh, there’s a popped corn between my shirt and my undershirt! Mmmm, goood. I leave with confidence that you can spin your own tops, and never miss what you couldn’t measure: it doesn’t exist!

            • smurfy

              oh, and I sincerely wish you to choke on that pretzel you forget to worry about when you get your dinger or your K. “We” all know fip’s where it’s at. Fug the well-turned dp, or the avuncularly* deft pickup off the bounce from the wall, and strong, accurate throw to the plate or the base that the runner doth approach. Who cares, that isn’t the game changer: who hit a random homer, the counting stat most easily discerned.

              • smurfy

                * -oh, yeah – couldn’t think of the word: not “inchoate,” but…

                • smurfy

                  oh, I know: the uncannily naturalness of the fielder to shield against any anxiety or random stat flung for his attention, to rather focus expeditiously upon the best response to the real threat. ah, who cares, though.

      • RetroRob

        I blame Ivan Rodriguez. Joba fell and jammed his arm evading a throw from the then Yankee catcher. He’s never been the same. His velocity and command never returned. The Yankees know this, they know medicals. Sometimes the truth isn’t as sexy as the story people want to believe.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      They had medicals. They made the decision to convert him. He still got hurt.

      I have no clue what would have happened had they put him out there every five days. If he gets the opportunity to, we’ll see what happens. Nothing would surprise me there.

      Like I said below, I hope he has a lights-out season and becomes the heir to Mo.

      I blame Mike Francesa.

      • Jimmy

        I blame global warming.

      • Now Batting

        Joba goes to the Cardinals next year and throws 180 innings with a 3.50 ERA. Book it.

        • V

          Here’s hoping. I want the Yankees to look stupid on this. They had an asset, and squandered it.

          • The Big City of Dreams

            I hoping for the same thing. Damn near rooting for it actually.

            • Jim Is Bored

              I will never, ever understand that attitude.

  • jjyank

    Was that the real TSJC on the previous thread? Or some douche trying to be cool?

    • jjyank

      Actually, I apologize. The real TSJC would now how to spell.

    • Get Phelps Up

      Considering that he completely botched the name, I’m pretty sure it was the latter.

      • jjyank

        Yeah, Upon second look, I realize that it couldn’t be.

        • Pat D

          Shame on you for thinking it was. Go stand in the corner.

          • jjyank

            Tell the douche who thought he was cool to go into time out. I’m a skimmer. I was a Poli Sci major, my trade is in skimming things!

            • Pat D

              I already did. Don’t flaunt your credentials at me, perhaps it’s time you had them renewed!

              • Havok9120

                That was….awful.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  I just saw it. That was a hobo’s version of a poor man’s TSJC.

                  • Havok9120

                    I was also referring to Pat’s attempt at a comeback.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      Applies to both, I guess.

                    • Pat D

                      For some reason that 1776 quote just popped into my head. So shoot me!

  • Jacob the OG(formerly Jacob)

    The comments made by Greinke today were absolutely ridiculous, shows he was the dick I thought he was.

    • Bob Buttons

      I’m guessing there’s three sides to take on this issue.

      1) At least he is brutally honest, unlike Johnny “I always wanted to play here” Damon.

      2) At least Damon tries to hide it, Greinke doesn’t even take the effort to fake being interested in something other than money.

      3) Screw em all, do whatever they want. DOWN WITH THE DAMN 1%!

      • Jacob the OG(formerly Jacob)

        Oh I believe Damon was always open to playing in New York but they never even offered him something to turn down. And yes at least he is honest but damn he is a super asshole too and if I was a dodgers fan I would put him immediatly on my shit list.

        • Bob Buttons

          I believe that Damon was interested in NY (both times around) but I’m not so sure on Detroit and TB.

          Also, I agree. Honesty is nice but it’s kinda saying “IDGAF about your franchise. I only care about your money”. Kinda like gold-diggers (not the people who mine for the mineral, the people who get into relationships for material gain) They get some points for honesty but still doesn’t take away the fact that they are scum.

          • Jacob the OG(formerly Jacob)

            Oh I thought you were talking just about NY. In that sense yes, I do think there was something he had said long before he signed with detroit (like in free agency before the yanks) that hinted at wanting to play there but that might be in my head. As for tampa though, that was probably all talk.

        • Steve (different one)

          I guess there is no way to verify, but I seem to remember the Yankees offering Damon $14M/2 early in the offseason. He and Boras thought they could do better. The Yanks signed Nick Johnson for $5M and Damon had to settle for $8M/1 from Detroit towards the end of winter.

    • CP

      He’s a dick because he admitted taking the job that paid the most?

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        If that’s the case, pretty much 99.9% of the population of the US are dicks.

      • MannyGeee

        Here We stand today all fucking indignant because a professional athlete went on record admitting he, like thousands before him, is a mercenary… Shooting his weapon for the highest bidder. Since none of us would ever sell out our morals for a paycheck or anything …. *wanking motion*

        Zach Greinke is not a role model. He’s a dude getting paid a shit ton because he is elite at a trade. Stop treating him like he is the fucking pope.

        • Ramondo

          +1!!

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Seriously.

          People who get offered hundreds of millions of dollars to work, and still hold out for another ten or twenty on top, not in it for the money?

        • Pat D

          Nobody was listening when Charles Barkley said, “I am not a role model.”

          Of course, it’s the media who makes these guys out to be role models more so than the fans. The media convinces the fans that athletes are supposed to be role models. They do this mostly so that when they fail or are disgraced, they can sell more copy writing those stories.

          Examples: Armstrong, Lance; Rodriguez, Alex; Woods, Tiger

    • CS Yankee

      He only said that h would take the 200M$ job from the worst team over a 10$ job from the best team.
      Nobody, except a complete idiot, would not take $200,000,000 over $10.

      The best team (NYY) didn’t even offer him a contract…so how is he being a dick?

    • Dalek Jeter

      I disagree 100%, they’re all about the money, I actually have more respect for him admitting it

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I still maintain he’d take the world’s largest dump right on the pitcher’s mound if he ever actually wore pinstripes.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Because of the SAD? Idk, I wouldn’t say that’s fair…I think LA is just as big as a stage as NY, especially with all the money they’ve thrown around, if he performs in LA I think he’d be able to handle Pinstripes.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            ….with a large dump in his pants.

            I never subscribe to any of the idiot memes. Let me have this one.

            • Dalek Jeter

              You can have it, but I will disagree at every turn.

              • Pat D

                My concern is that even with medication it can rear its ugly head whenever it wants to. I have a bit of experience with that.

                • Dalek Jeter

                  That is true…

          • Grit for Brains

            No. It’s not the same stage. I’ve lived in that market and SoCal sports are nothing like New York sports. Even take basketball where the Lakers have been great and the Knicks not so much over the last decade, even in that sport playing for the Knicks may be a more daunting media experience. I’m not an insider but I truthfully believe that nothing is like the NYC media and no team is more closely watched than the Yanks.

            • Pat D

              LA lost their edge when the NFL abandoned them.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              I am absolving myself of all responsibility for opening this can of worms. I was only trying to make a joke about a large dump behind a pitcher’s mound.

              *steps away*

              • Pat D

                Oh, no. You’ll clean up your shit first, young man.

  • vin

    Good for Joba. I hope he gets PAID next November.

    • MannyGeee

      He won’t. He will continue to be paid as a reliever, or he will have to give a discount as a reclamation project. Unfortunate.

      • Havok9120

        I can see him taking something like a 2 year contract with a team that guarantees to try and let him start.

        • MannyGeee

          Yeah but not at starter money. He’ll get something like Bruce Chen money… 2/8 or something eerily similar to what a damn good reliever makes.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            A tinge more than that, but I agree……which is why I’m rooting for him to be lights out this season and earn the “heir to Mo” title BEFORE he gets the chance to jump.

            • MannyGeee

              Without a doubt. 1000 times this.

            • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

              I’m down with that. It would be the next best thing besides him becoming a quality starter.

            • The Big City of Dreams

              If he they want him to be the heir to Mo I hope he rejects it.

              • Havok9120

                Why? Out of spite for the team or because you don’t think he could hack it regardless of how he performs this season?

                • The Big City of Dreams

                  To spite the team plus I would hate to see how he would be treated if he failed as the heir to Mo.

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    This belies your screen name, as its neither “big city” or “dreamy.”

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      “nor,” not “or.”

                    • The Big City of Dreams

                      Sorry I’m just in a mean old man mood lol

            • The Big City of Dreams

              Especially with the comments Cash and Joe made I hope he publicity rejects being the heir to Mo

          • Havok9120

            Definitely.

        • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

          If Joba, Hughes and IPK all end up as quality starters pitching for teams other than the Yankees with nothing to show for it other than a draft pick for Granderson, I’m leading the lynch mob to Cashman’s house.

          • MannyGeee

            Dude…. Wouldn’t that just blow my fucking dick off. That is a possibly distinct scenario.

          • Pat D

            I’m confused. Are you saying that Granderson’s 4 years of service would be meaningless? Are you also assuming that they make a QO to Granderson, but not to Joba or Hughes?

            • MannyGeee

              No way in hell they give a 13M QO to Joba when he won’t make that TOTAL in his next contract. Hughes is a tough call, as he’ll get some better offers in the offseason.

              • Pat D

                Yea, Joba not getting a QO is completely understood. But I wouldn’t be so dismissive of giving one to Hughes yet. That’s why I asked.

                • MannyGeee

                  Completely agree. He’s got a shot at declining a QO.

                  But I think they would worry about him actually accepting it… On account of, well, you know…. 189 and all

            • Manny’s BanWagon

              Granderson’s 4 years were far from worthless but the Yankees would have been far better off both over the prior 4 years as well as in the future if they never made the Granderson trade.

              No way they’ll make a qualifying offer to Joba but they probably would for Hughes so it could be 2 draft picks.

              • Pat D

                That’s operating under the assumption that Jackson and Kennedy duplicated their numbers with the Yankees. I wouldn’t take that for granted.

                • Manny’s BanWagon

                  Maybe not IPK but I see no reason AJ would have been any worse.

                  • Pat D

                    Well, just looking at the offensive side of it, he’s really only had one good season. His 2010 season was due to insanely high BABIP and he was pretty terrible in 2011. Last year he was pretty good, but let’s see him put two good years together. He definitely wouldn’t hit as many HR’s and I’m not sure he’d get as many triples in YS3.

                    • Manny’s BanWagon

                      You think it’s harder to hit HRs as a righty in YS3 than Comerica park?

                    • MannyGeee

                      Hitting anything in Commercia is hard, but that’s not (luckily for Jackson) his game. He’s a contact, speed, “extra base” guy. Perfect for that park. Granderson is more of a power guy, and that suits him in NYS…

                    • Now Batting

                      You can’t say his 2010 season wasn’t good because he had a high BABIP. It’s great for forecasting, but once a season is in the books it’s in the books.

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    FWIW, I still think everyone got what they wanted out of that trade in the short-term.

                    • Manny’s BanWagon

                      Can’t say it was ” a bad” trade for the Yankees but IPK and AJ have been worth 23.3 WAR while costing $2.6 million over the last 3 years compared to 13.2 WAR and $24 million for Granderson and those numbers are only gonna get worse moving forward especially with AJ and IPK coming into their prime and Grandy likely leaving NY after the season.

                      Pretty hard to argue that the Yankees wouldn’t have been better off not making that trade.

                    • MannyGeee

                      Oh without a doubt. Even medium term, everyone got what they expected… And should the whole $189 thing not have happened, I think this would have been a golden trade for all three teams…

                    • MannyGeee

                      In fairness though, IPK looked LOST in NY. And there was an argument to say 4 years ago he was the least likely to succeed of the kids.

                    • Manny’s BanWagon

                      IPK being lost was partly a failure on the Yankees part. Pitching in the NL West also no doubt has helped but I don’t buy he’d be a 5th starter in the AL east. Didn’t seem to hurt Kuroda much.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      You forget the Kuroda did better with the moral support of his countryman out in RF.

                      #bigmember

                    • Manny’s BanWagon

                      That and being so close to Chinatown, right?

          • Havok9120

            You need to standardize your handle, man. I assume you post from 3 or 4 different devices?

            • Manny’s BanWagon

              Yeah. I’m using my sons iPad and didn’t realize it had my old handle defaulted.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                The problem is that Andy Pettitte’s Fibula actually argued that the Yanks won the Granderson trade.

                • Manny’s BanWagon

                  That bastard. I’m banning him from RAB immediately for such illogical thinking.

                • Manny’s BanWagon

                  BTW, who is Taker fighting in Wrestlemania?

                  • Pat D

                    After last night, the logical choice is CM Punk.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      It was going to be Punk all the time, as long as Taker was healthy.

                      I’d love for Punk to go over in order to really cement him as a HOFer.

                    • Manny’s BanWagon

                      Don’t love that match. As great as Punk is, he’s like 8 inches and 80 lbs smaller than taker.

                      I’d rather see taker fight someone more physically imposing like Lesnar.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      Didn’t hurt when he fought Shawn Michaels.

                    • Manny’s BanWagon

                      I just think it’ll take more than Punk to top that war Taker had last year with Triple H surviving chairs, sledge hammers, etc.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I wonder how many fans actually noticed the looooong-term continuity with the Zeb Colter character. Dutch Mantel actually portrayed “Uncle Zebekiah” as manager of both the first incarnation of “Justin Hawk” Bradshaw, as well as Jacob and Eli Blu (The Harris Brothers with really long beards.) This was late 90’s/early 2000’s. This is really the same character, years later, with a shaved beard. They always suck at this sort of attention to detail. I’m shocked they got this one right.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    Whoever that idiot was impersonating TSJC, take note: Here on the RAB forums, it’s sort of as if you’re one of those people who comes down and tells everybody they’re the reincarnation of a god, then we realize you’re full of shit.

    Sort of like Cortes, but if the Aztecs kicked his fucking ass. That is you, you horrible sacrilegious mockery of TSJC. You will get no laughs, no pity, and no mercy from RAB should you continue with your despicable efforts. Especially from those of us who had the privilege of communicating with the REAL TSJC.

    You have been warned.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Would anyone else agree that, in 2013, TSJC would get more shit from the trolls than all the regulars here combined?

      I thought it was pretty obvious to everyone, other than one particular fellow on here, that it was a fake. No biggie.

      • Jacob the OG(formerly Jacob)

        *cough*jj*cough*

      • Havok9120

        I’d agree with that. For all the sniping at regulars on here the last month or so, he’d get it worse.

        Which is pretty obvious since he did back in the day, too. And the trolls were a lot better than the sex-joke impersonations and one-liners that we’re mostly stuck with at the moment.

        • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

          Ehhh, for the most part, not really. And there was no Big Member.

          We are in a different era, but it’s not that much worse in the end.

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        TSJC would have had a very hard time with the trolls and most of his posts would have gone right over their heads.

        Does anyone know why he just stopped coming here cold turkey? I know he had a kid.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Is he one of the guys who just turned to Twitter?

          If anything, having a kid has me more on here. Not exactly getting out every Friday night anymore.

        • MannyGeee

          He had a vision of #EddardWorld and had to run for the hills. .

        • Pat D

          I don’t think he’d have a hard time with the trolls. He’d just tell them to fuck off and not give them a second thought. After a series of highbrow insults, that is.

          • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

            Yeah, absolutely. TSJC would have some fun with our old friend Greg though. I also think he would work very well with Big Member.

            Damn man, now I’m tearing up *sniff*.

            • Pat D

              I’d be afraid to see what would happen between TSJC and Greg. I’m afraid he’d break Greg’s spirit for all times. Greg’s not that bad.

              Meanwhile, I’m sure Big Member would entertain TSJC the same way he entertains us.

              • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                But I think TSJC’s responses would be almost as enjoyable as Big Member’s original posts.

                As for Greg, well, Greg and I rub each other the wrong way. I have to admit, I’d definitely have a good time seeing TSJC call Greg out on his hyper-fickle shit. I wonder if that makes me a bad person?

              • Robinson Tilapia

                Let’s give Greg a bit more credit than that. I’ve basically suggested suicide and antipsychotics on here, and he’s still here.

                Besides, there’s two Gregs now, and I’ll take diva-ish “Real Greg” over the newer troll-ish “Greg” anytime.

    • MannyGeee

      It was a ballsy move. I smell a ham sammich…

  • Jacob the OG(formerly Jacob)

    I called greinke a dick because he said he would take 200mm to play on a losing team and wallow in losses over getting 10mm to play on a winning team and have success and loads of fun. That is greedy as shit and I would much rather win and know that I had a fun time winning not a greedy loser. 10mm is still a lot more than the average american will make in his lifetime. I respect your opinions but some of you really shit on mine and did not even think about it.

    • MannyGeee

      All of this is very noble of you, and I hope some day you have the opportunity to do something you really love and are really good at and make $10M while doing it… But he’s not you. He’s a professional mercenary.

      CC did the same thing 13 months ago by opting out for an extra year. But everyone loves big black cocoa bear. Tex took $10 more in 2009. Damon took 4m more in 2005.

      • Jacob the OG(formerly Jacob)

        CC technically never opted out, they extended him. But they all took it to play for a winner not a loser

        • Preston

          Long term contracts can go south real quick. Plenty of players sign with winners and end up playing their contracts out for losers.

          • Jacob the OG(formerly Jacob)

            And no doubt that is true but they originally signed with a WINNER that just became a loser

            • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

              You know why they’re winners? Because they spent tons of money on good players. Correlation does not equal causation.

              http://xkcd.com/552/

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      That’s not greedy, it’s common sense.

      You’d turn down $190 million to play for a winner? That’s unfair to the next 10 generations of Greinke’s.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Oh, I’d be John Stockton. If I was comfortable somewhere, I’d spend about an hour negotiating my next contract. I have a hard time negotiating salary even now.

        I’m waaaaaay in the minority there, though.

        • Manny’s BanWagon

          A few million here or there or even $10 million I can understand.

          Not even you would take $10 million over $200 million regardless of the circumstances.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I’m never going to make either of those.

            That’s a pretty big difference to seriously be discussing. How about 40 versus 80, or something like that?

            • Manny’s BanWagon

              That’s reasonable. There’s not much if anything I wouldn’t do short of murder for $190 million and that wouldn’t be completely off the table either.

              • Jacob the OG(formerly Jacob)

                Are you admitting you would have a gay experience for 190 mill?

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  It’s 2013. Spread your wings a bit.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                So we have it on record that you’d tongue-kiss Ted for $1000? OK.

                • Manny’s BanWagon

                  I’d lock myself in a room with him for a month and he could do with me what ever wanted for $190 million. You could call me Mrs Nelson.

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    ietc

                    • Manny’s BanWagon

                      Translation please.

                    • Preston

                      Translation “I enjoyed this comment”

    • Preston

      10 mm is a huge amount of money. But you would actually have to budget and invest prudently in order to live the rest of you life off of it. 200 mm is an amount that makes you bullet proof, honestly you could keep it in a normal checking account and still live like a drunken sailor off the interest. Playing baseball is a job. You do it for the money. Would you rather play baseball for a losing team for 7 years, or take the chance that you sustain a career ending injury and have to live the rest of your life off what you’ve already earned? And honestly ten million goes faster than you think. Once you’ve paid the agent and the fed you have 5. With five million dollars you’re a failed investment, business venture or divorce away from selling cars, or insurance for the next thirty years. Always take the money.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        For sure it’s a job, but any job is a balance. I wouldn’t leave to an agency I’d be miserable with over 20k more. I could probably double my salary right now if I were to go into private practice, but I’ve never taken that plunge because I actually value stuff like going to the gym after work more. It’s a balance for anyone.

        I’m not going to go as far as Jacob, but I couldn’t judge what position I’m going to take solely because of the money.

        Suppose someone wanted someone with exactly my skill set….in Dubai….and was willing to move my entire family over for 10 years and pay me a million a year to do it. Would I do it? I sincerely doubt it.

        • Preston

          I absolutely agree. But playing baseball is playing baseball. Sure there are some teams and or cities I wouldn’t want to go to. But if the guaranteed money was 20 times, and I knew I’d never have to work again after my seven years, I’d sign with any club. And honestly if your main reason for inking a seven year deal with a team is to be on a “winner” you might be sorely disappointed. Roy Halladay and Cliff Lee thought they were going to a “winner” in a place they enjoyed playing. I think Lee is going to spend a lot of those years playing for a loser.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Can’t argue too much with that.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Winning is awesome but family comes first. $200M sets up the Axisas for many generations. Knowing my kids and my kids’ kids and my kids’ kids’ kids would never have to stress about money >>>>> winning at anything.

        • Havok9120

          I’m in that boat as well. In a vacuum, I’d pick the winner and/or play for the team I most wanted to play for. But that kind of decision is NOT made in a vacuum because it is quite likely that no one in the next dozen generations of a given family will get another chance at a payout like that.

    • Jacob the OG(formerly Jacob)

      And I totally respect the majority of you guys this was just more directed at the guys they straight up shit on my opinion like I was not a regular, even if I wasn’t a regular we always give respect to every(non-troll)opinion.

      • Dalek Jeter

        I respect your opinion Jake, I just disagree with you that he’s a dick because he’s admitted to being a mercenary. I found it refreshing, most players claim to “not be about the money” then take the largest and longest contract they can get. It just happens that they go to winners more often then not because most teams who have the money are winners. Look at CC, Tex, and AJ, they all took the most money available to them to join a team that had just missed the playoffs.

        • Preston

          I also enjoyed him cutting through the hypocrisy.

        • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

          What you said.

    • Govin

      Sometime you don’t know what you will do until the situation arises.
      Thats where I’m at right now. Does anybody have a good 200mil they can spare, to help me figure out what I would do in this situation. That would be fantastic.

      PS. Don’t expect any of the money back.

    • Now Batting

      Can’t speak for Greinke, but going out and pitching in the majors every fifth day sounds fun no matter what.

      • Havok9120

        I tend to believe the quotes we used to hear out of clubhouses by the end of the season where it starts to become less about whether a game was won or lost but “how many games till I can get some rest?”

        I mean, there’s a reason that all these guys, when asked about their goals for the season, regularly state that one of them is to “keep have fun from start to finish,” or “I’m going to work on having a good time and be relaxed at the end of the season.” It isn’t just because those lines make good sound bites.

        • RetroRob

          BTW There’s an article on Baseball Prospectus today by a former pitcher who talked about the use of PEDs and how he opted not to take them, but wonders if he made the right decision. It was a great read. (I don’t have the link.)

          Yet I found his discussion of greenies more interesting because people view them as pretty tame, just helping a player feel a little better, nothing like steroids. I’m not so convinced after reading the article.

    • Jim Is Bored

      Disagreeing with you != not thinking about it.

      And I call complete and utter bullshit that you would take 10 million over 200 million, regardless of the circumstances.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Howard Reynolds makes me so angry.

    • https://twitter.com/MattMontero1 matt montero

      You mean Harold Reynolds?

      • Dalek Jeter

        Yeah, him too lol.

  • Darren

    Sorry, how fuckin cool is it that Andy’s son threw a no-no, against a powerhouse team no less? Kis has good numbers but is committed to Baylor Let’s sign him up!

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/.....30570.html

  • Darren

    Also, on “Bizarre Foods”, Andrew Zimmern ate some tripe and said it has a “diaper-y aftertaste.”

    Which was funny as hell, and reminded me of the A-Rod contract.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Harold Reynolds on Paul Konerko: “He’s a lock for 25 and 100 every year.”

    Amsinger: “He didn’t do that last year, he had 26 and 75.”

    Reynolds: “he’ll do a 100 this year.”

    Also according to Reynolds “Pederioa is a winner, I look beyond the numbers and just everything he does, he wins.” Completely disregarding the fact Pedroia’s team hasn’t made the playoffs since 2010.

    • Deathstroke Heathcott

      He meant win as in Charlie Sheen win. As in he wins here, he wins there.

    • Get Phelps Up

      2009, actually. And Pedroia’s team hasn’t won a playoff game in 4 1/2 years. The iPad, 3 of the 4 tallest buildings in the world, the Obama Administration, and the new Yankee Stadium are things that didn’t exist the last time the Red Sox won a playoff game. Fun to think about.

      • Dalek Jeter

        This, or the bottle of scotch I just opened after finishing my h/w, made my night. It’s probably a combination of the two.

      • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

        stolen without attribution for my facebook status. thanks.

    • Larry B.

      Bad fit. Most of those MLB network guys are stat nerds. Even some of the former players are leaning more heavily on stats now. Reynolds is more of an eye test guy. I like to use both in evaluating. I think some of the MLB net guys are too stat analysis heavy, almost laughably so.

  • RetroRob

    I swear, I thought that was Youkilis in the picture above clearing the water off the field.

  • Larry B.

    So what’s the word on Murphy? Is he the real deal? It appears from what I’ve been readin that he is at least another 1 or 2 yrs away from the bigs.