Snowmageddon Open Thread


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I went with the 2011 highlights last night, so let’s go back another year to 2010 tonight. It’s always fun to see great plays you either forgot about or just flat out missed during the season.

Anyway, here is your thread for this very snowy evening. Hopefully everyone got home safe and none of you are stuck driving anywhere. Both the Knicks and Nets are playing, but talk about anything you want here. Enjoy.

Categories : Open Thread
  • Sweet Dick Willie

    Couldn’t make the chat this afternoon, but what’s the story on Rob Segedin? Non-prospect at this point?

    • Bob Buttons

      Segedin has yet to reach AA and he didn’t do very well this season (I’d guess).

      Didn’t get to look at most of it, so I could be dead wrong here.

      • Sweet Dick Willie

        After hitting 297/362/448 in 73 games at Tampa, he was promoted to Trenton mid-season and didn’t do too well.

        But when he was promoted to Tampa from Charleston in mid-season 2011, he didn’t do to well either, so maybe it’s just an adjustment period.

        I would guess he will start 2013 at Trenton, with a bump to Scranton if he’s performing well.

        Just wondered what Mike (and the Yankees) think of him at this point. After all, he was a 3rd round pick in 2010.

        • Bob Buttons

          Hmm then I have no idea which prospect I’m thinking of.

  • trr

    Meh; I’m heading down to the man cave to work out. God I hate winter that must be why i like spring training!

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I’ve always thought there’s a certain life stage one has reached when they actually have part of their house they call the “man cave” or, in the case of one of my friends, “Man Town.”

      I’ll take living in a big city over the space I’d need to do that for the time being, but it will happen someday.

      • Cris Pengiucci

        I’ve got a friend in the Denver area that has a Man Cave most would be extremely jealous of, complete with a autographed A-Rod jersey (and other Yankee memorabilia), autographed Messier Jersey and other non-NY athletic stuff, to go along with his full wet bar (well stocked and with a bar tender when I’ve been there for parties). The bar has about 10 bar stools around it and only takes up about 1/10th of the space he has down there. Great place for a party, with a walk out to the back yard and views of downtown Denver and the Rocky Mountains beyond.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          See? I’m a dork. All I think about is the HTPC I’d have someone build and the perfect surround setup.

  • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formally Drew)

    I sent this into Deadspin in December.

    Better late than never.


    Jelly Donuts all the way.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      What was this based on, though? Just Dunkin Donuts?

      If so, I’m totally a Marble Frosted and Boston Cream fan all the way. I still call the Boston Cream a “Dewey Evans” as a friend of mine always did back in the day.

      With Krispy Kreme, hard to go anywhere other than a HOT glazed.

      I’m in NYC, though, so I’m a stuck-up bastard who’ll start talking about Doughnut Plant and Dough, if you wish, and will tell you about that one time I went to Portland and had me some Voodoo Doughnut.

      • http://Twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew)

        Yeah Dunkin’ my boss got them for my last day at my internship.

        But nothing beats a hot fresh glazed donut from Krispy Kream.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Also, the issue with red velvet is that red velvet, in and of itself, isn’t anything. I believe it all comes from peasant recipes in the south in the 1800′s when there was no cocoa.

      Red velvet can certainly be elevated in the hands of some awesome bakers, like Cake Man Raven, but it usually sucks.

      The less said of the Ben & Jerry’s flavor, the better.

  • Austin Aunelowitzky

    Clear night in Chicago :)

    • Get Phelps Up

      A lovely late afternoon/evening in the Pacific Northwest.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Godfuckingdamn. All I see is “Austin Aune” now.


      • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (formerly Aunelowitzky)

        I still can’t believe you never saw it…

    • Bob Buttons

      Note to self: If I ever put together a weather dominator, make a snow storm every other day in Chicago.

      • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (formerly Aunelowitzky)

        You could just have Mr. Snow Miser do it…

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I gots me sandwiches for two to last me until tomorrow, as well as alcohol to last us in case of a nuclear holocaust. Didn’t really need all that prep, but what’s done is done.

    Maybe an inch on the ground. The real shit starts later. I’d say NYC comes in just about as predicted in the 10-14 inch range. Nothing we haven’t been through before.

    I just feel bad for those folks who still aren’t 100% after Sandy. They’re the reason you’re seeing what you’re seeing on the news.

    • Mike HC

      I got food to last for days too. I’m afraid it will all be gone by midnight tonight.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I could’ve gotten delivery or take-out in this 6-9 PM window without much snow, but oh well. We’ve got enough to carry us through lunch tomorrow, if we need it. We won’t.

        Little guy came down with a fever today, so that puts a damper on things.

    • Jimmy

      Is the kid old enough to enjoy the snow?

      • Robinson Tilapia

        18 months, so yes and no.

        If he’s feeling better, and this is probably all teething-related, we’ll take him out to Prospect Park. This is definitely his first real snowfall.

        • Jimmy

          Awesome. Think of getting yourself a cheap sled and pull him around the park, you won’t regret the reaction. Hope he’s feeling better soon.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            That’d be sweet. Let’s see how he’s doing tomorrow. :(

          • Cris Pengiucci

            And take pictures! Some of the best pictures of my daughter were around that age just after snow storms.

          • The Big City of Dreams

            Hopefully he gets well soon and can enjoy the day.

    • RetroRob

      Sandwiches for two? One of the three people in your household will not be happy.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        He’s asleep. We got him prosciutto balls anyway.

        • RetroRob

          So say R-Tils, as he sips his wine, munching on prosciutto balls.

        • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

          They have balls? (Sorry)

  • RetroRob

    Thinking this through on a snowy evening, Cano’s contract negotiations could paralyze the Yankees next off season, potentially limiting their ability to build a competitive team.

    They have to allocate an AAV of $22-25M for Cano as they’re building the team and signing other players, yet Cano is a Boras client, and that means Cano is not going to sign until probably well into January. With the Dodgers looming, and a number of teams with increased money, and the Yankees $189M cap, it’s not a lock that Cano will be back. If that’s the case, then the Yankees will need to recover some of the loss by spreading their dollars elsewhere, but they won’t be able to do that until Cano signs or doesn’t, and if it’s the latter, the Yankees will find a lot of the talent gone.

    It’ll be an interesting offseason for Mr. Cashman.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Not for weak at heart for sure.

      If I was Axisa, I’d start an RAB line of custom-made cups for the lower regions in time for the off-season. Some folks are going to need them.

      • Mike HC

        RAB Shop might have discontinue their “SwishHawk” line of shirts and mugs.

    • Steve (different one)

      Rumors on the radio today was that the yanks have started talking to Cano. Take that fwiw, prob not much, but will be something to follow at least…

      • RetroRob

        It is interesting that Hal even acknowledged they’ve had a few calls. Not quite sure how to read that.

        I just can’t see Boras not taking Cano to market. He loves these type of situations. The very idea that the best 2B’man in the game will be available, he’s a NY Yankees, the Dodgers loom, and he loves to push the salary bar higher just feels like way too good of an opportunity for Boras.

        Unless Cano tells Boras otherwise, I see Cano going to free agency, and if I had to place a bet, I’d bet Cano will not be a Yankee if that happens. Cano no doubt wants to return to the Yankees, but I think Cashman will go off in other directions and that’s why we’re hearing about this now. They may have decided already that Cano gets signed now, or he’s played his last days on the Yankees come the end of this season. Just because Hank ignored Cashman with A-Rod doesn’t mean that will happen again. In fact, the A-Rod situation will serve as a powerful reminder.

        • Ted Nelson

          I think that the Yankees will bring Cano back, even if that means Cashman gets overruled. It’s not just ARod. They’ve also paid what it took for CC, Jeter, and others. Unless the Dodgers offer some just silly 10 year $300 million deal I think Cano is a Yankee.

          It’s certainly possible that Cano holds them up, but I think Cashman is competent enough not to let that happen.

  • Mike HC


    Looks like the Yanks are breaking policy and trying to potentially lock up Cano this off season. Interesting development.

    • MB923

      Just about to post that

      I hope they put some kind of PED clause in the contract! (hey you never know anymore)

      • Mike HC

        Agreed. The clause should read something like, “This contract is voidable if at any time you stop taking PED’s for any reason, including, but not limited to, getting caught.”

        • Bob Buttons


    • RetroRob

      Clearly, Cashman just read my post above and panicked. “Get Boras on the line!”

      The problem is Boras loves to take clients to market, and in this market with increased money, a legit star player, and other major stars signing before reaching market, he will want to create a feeding frenzy. I just don’t know if they can pull it off.

      I’m telling you. If Cano reaches market, I can see Cashman saying screw it, he’s gone. He won’t let his offseason be held hostage to one player considering the transition they’re going through. Just my two cents.

      • Mike HC

        I think Cashman will have limited say and/or involvement with the negotiation. This one is all Steinbrenner.

        • RetroRob

          Yes and no. Boras deals directly with the owners in most cases, yet the owner here is the one who set Plan 189. They’re not compartmentalized, so Cashman is going to be giving feedback on what actions he has to take to keep the team competitive based on the Cano decision.

          As I wrote above, I don’t see Boras not taking Cano to market. I don’t see the Yankees being held hostage by Boras’ timeline. That means there is a very strong possibility this will be Cano’s last year on the Yankees.

          • Ted Nelson

            The owner also said that he wants Cano to be a Yankee for life and has no history of letting his stars walk. Quite the opposite. They have frequently bid against themselves to keep their franchise players.

    • Steve (different one)

      You scooped me…

      I have been thinking about this a little, I know Boras doesn’t like extensions and usually, but not always, tries to take his client to FA….but if they were willing to tear up his current contract, there may be something to entice Cano to sign now. IOW, Cano doesn’t want to make $15M in 2013. If the yanks were willing to pay Cano, say $22M/year, doing it now give Cano an instant $7M raise in a year the yanks don’t care about the luxury tax. Wonder if that’s enough to get him to the table.

      • Mike HC

        Yea, there are so many angles with this negotiation. You have the public relations angle, with the Yanks getting killed this off season, this could be to show the Yanks are all in on re signing their best player. Could be that by signing a deal now, they may only have to pay Cano until he is 37 rather than 38 or something. And like you mention, could be they hope ripping up this current one year deal buys them a little leeway on total price.

      • RetroRob

        That would also be an additional incentive to Boras. Right now he gets nothing since the contract was negotiated by Cano’s former agent. Boras could begin getting his cut this year.

      • Grit for Brains

        Rip the current deal up for 7/160?

  • E

    The storm hasn’t hit here in NS yet but it’s coming. Honestly every single time we get a good snow dump it’s the weekend. I want my classes cancelled damn it!

    How did NY and NYC fair? Much snow?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I wouldn’t even say an inch yet. I still expect to see 8-10 before I wake up, but NY1 has definitely begun to adjust its forecast downward.

      As long as I maintain power, which I’m confident I will, and my boy gets a good night’s sleep, which he’s not so far, I’ll be happy.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I’m also going on a house-made Sazerac and a 20 oz. double IPA at this point.

  • Jersey Joe

    If Cano does not resign with us next year, what do yo expect the Yankees spend on with the remaining cash.

    • RetroRob

      It won’t be one player who will deliver 7 WAR. They’ll have to spread it to several players. They might be planning to let Granderson leave, but instead if Granderson has a solid year, they might spend to keep him. Or they might make a trade to bring on a player who is already making a good salary, but one they wouldn’t have touched if Cano was coming back.

      That’s the point. They need to plan, and it’ll be very difficult without knowing Cano’s status and how much money he will suck up.

    • Randy Levine

      Jeter five year extension.

      • RetroRob

        Just make it three. Need to conserve some cash. Soriano will be a free agent again after 2015, and Mo might be ready to retire then!

    • Brian S.

      C-Brian McCann 15 mil (3 year, 45 mil commitment)
      1B-Mark Teixeira 22.5 mil
      2B-Corban Joseph 500k
      SS-Derek Jeter 9 mil
      3B-Alex Rodriguez 27.5 mil
      RF-Ichiro Suzuki 6.5 mil
      CF-Brett Gardner 6 mil
      LF-Slade Heathcott 500k
      DH-Paul Konerko 14 mil (1 year, 14 mil commitment)

      IF-David Adams 500k (platoon with CoJo, fill in for Arod)
      C-Austin Romine 500k
      OF-Zoilo Almonte 500k
      SS-Eduardo Nunez 500k (time to shine)

      SP-CC Sabathia 23 mil
      SP-Micheal Pineda 500k
      SP-Phil Hughes 13 mil (4 year, 52 mil commitment)
      SP-Ivan Nova 1 mil
      SP-David Phelps 500k

      CL-David Robertson 6 mil
      SU-Mark Montgomery 500k
      SU-Eric O’Flaherty 6 mil (3 year, 18 mil commitment)
      RP-Tommy Kahnle 500k
      RP-Chase Whitely 500k
      RP-Daniel Burawa 500k
      RP-Graham Stoneburner 500k

      • Brian S.

        ~156 million I think

        • Get Phelps Up

          Why not just spend the extra $30M between $156 and $189? If they don’t get extensions or anything, they could probably get Adam Wainwright and Corey Hart and a more established reliever(s) with that money.

          • Ted Nelson

            189 includes several other charges including benefits and non-25 man 40-man guys. So they can’t really spend 189.

            • Get Phelps Up

              Yes, but they can sure spend a hell of a lot more than $156M, which was my point.

              • Ted Nelson

                Yeah, a good amount more. Maybe around $170 or something? Assuming A-Rod hasn’t reached his first HR bonus.

      • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

        There are way too many if’s in there for me. If McCann is healthy, if CoJo can stick at second and produce in the majors, if Jeter can still play SS, if A-Rod can play more than 110 games in a season, if Ichiro proves last season wasn’t a dead cat bounce, if Heathcott can stay healthy and produce in the majors, your entire bench is an ‘if they can stick in the majors’, and the same with your bullpen outside of Robertson…then there is if Pineda, Phelps, and Nova can be legit starting pitchers in baseball. One has just one really good year, one has one decent year, the third has one good year and one dreadful year.

        Don’t get me wrong, I love the positive vibe, and I hope the answer is ‘yes’ on every single one of those ‘ifs’ I proposed…but odds are that they aren’t all going to break in the Yankees favor.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          The thought of that bullpen gives me nightmares. Too many spots given to kids, both position players and bullpen, based on the best possible ceiling for some of them based on you squinting real, real hard.

          I always applaud Brian for sticking up for the more unheralded young guys, but that 25 man roster would not contend. At all.

          • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

            Yeah, I’m not a huge fan of that bullpen, I would rather a little more certainty, but in Brian’s defense the Yankees have made great bullpens out of Jose Veras’ and Edwar Ramierz’s, so you really never know…as for the position players and rotation, Brian has all of those guys basically reaching their ceiling to be were they are on his roster.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Yeah, but Veras and Ramirez were never integral parts of any Yankee bullpen. They weren’t even at the front end of those bullpens.

              I believe in throwing shit at the wall with the bullpen until something sticks as well, but you need a balance.

              We’ve seen Brian’s comments here for a long time, and he tends to assume that a guy who is producing in AA, or even lower, is a guy who can be expected to perform in the majors. I’d say half the guys in his bullpen get blown to smithereens if they ever taste the majors.

            • Ted Nelson

              Meh, BP is usually filled out with nobodies. Guys like Wade, Rapada, Eppley. I don’t see much change there.

      • Robinson Tilapia


      • RetroRob

        I think your concept is right on, although it might need some tweeks.

        I think they’d want something more sure than Heathcott since the offense will be taking quite a hit with Cano’s departure. I can see Heathcott being worked in to replace Ichiro as the season progresses if all goes well for Slade.

        The other issue is A-Rod. They might need the DH slot for him. Too early to say.

        Last, Pineda, Nova, Phelps and the committment of $13M AAV to Hughes will be too uncertain. They’ll want a legit #2. I don’t know who might be available.

        • RetroRob


        • Get Phelps Up

          Wainwright, Garza and Haren are all free agents next offseason. Josh Johnson too, but his injury history really concerns me. Also Jason Hammel if he proves that last season’s performance wasn’t a fluke.

    • Manny’s BanWagon (formerly Andy Pettitte’s Fibula)

      There’s a chance Cano signs before reaching FA.

      Weaver is a Boras client and he did just that last season.

  • Pat D

    So my class for tomorrow has already been postponed till 11. Whether that means we end at the same time or not, I have no idea. It had stopped snowing for a while, and what did come down didn’t stick to the roads. It started again about 1-2 hours ago and is now beginning to stick. However, I have no idea if it will snow enough to close the college. Probably not. So I should get studying for my quiz.

    I’m in eastern PA by the way. All I can say is that I love seeing how badly Boston is getting pelted.

    • Bob Buttons

      Enough Boston fans have hurt my feelings back when I was a wee kid that nothing non-life costing disaster in Boston can wipe a smile off my face.

    • Alkaline

      You’re near me, then. I imagine it’ll end at the same time as normal even with the delay.

      Also, does anyone else miss podcasts?

  • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

    My 20kw generator had the final installation stuff done yesterday. Nick of time. Tested and ready. Gazillion gallons of propane ready. And if the ridiculous amount of money spent on this shit guarantees that power never goes out again, it’ll be the best money I ever spent.

    Stay warm and safe folks.

    • Bob Buttons

      Hank Hill approves of this message.

    • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

      Well, power blinked out 3 times last night but came back in under 15 seconds each time so the gennie never had to kick in. Proving in fact that the purchase of a generator guarantees uninterrupted power from the grid.

      We got something like 16″ with 3′ drifts. Shoveling was “fun” this morning.

  • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

    If the Yankees and Cano can work out an extension at around 6/140 this off season goes from a “meh” to a very positive one IMO.

  • Pistol Pete

    Yanks can’t lose Cano, he’s their best player. If he continues at his current pace he will have Hall of Fame numbers by the end of his career. They can’t let him go even if they need to pay a bit more than he might be worth. He’d be near impossible to replaced there just aren’t middle infielders that can put up power numbers like Robbie. He deserves it, just sign him. How about 7 for 145.

    • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

      He is their best player (by a lot) but they would be able to get over losing him. As for your contract idea, it’s a year or two too long for my liking (if I’m the Yankees) and about 3mil AAV short for Robbie’s liking I’m sure.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I actually agree, and I think he gets more than that…..from the Yankees.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    They’re planning a Portal movie. No, seriously.



    I mean, what the…what the fuck?

    NO, no, no, no, no, NO. And no again for emphasis. Just don’t even try. You hear me Abrams? DO NOT EVEN TRY.

    I can see no way-NO WAY-that they could possibly make this a good movie without basically tearing up the original vision of the games and creating something completely different and only vaguely related. I mean, come on now.

    What on Earth would make them think a full length Portal movie is a good idea? It was a fucking puzzle game!

    A Half-Life movie MIGHT be okay if it’s done correctly.

    But Portal? It…it doesn’t even make sense.

    • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

      You shut your midget whore mouths! Every single one of them! After seeing what he’s done with the Star Trek reboot, how good Heart of Darkness looks, Super 8, Lost, and Fringe, Abrams can do as he pleases. Also…think outside the box a little bit…follow the story of the test subjects that have gone mad in the puzzles, find out why the cake is a lie, or why some of the walls whisper.

    • Dalek Jeter (formerly: Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM))

      Also…did you watch that short film at the end of the article…basically imagine that fleshed out into a feature film.

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        I did watch that, and it’s a great short film. But extending that into a full movie? No way it could work.

        Also, I like Abrams. I thought the new Star Trek was great. I thought Super 8 was pretty good until the ending, which kind of sucked.

        All I’m saying is, video game movies are extremely hard to do well, and a Portal movie is going to be even harder.

  • Charles R.

    Anyone here play fantasy basketball? I’m being offered Darren Collison and Andrew Bogut for Damian Lillard. Thoughts? I’m kinda in need of big men since Andre Drummond and Pau Gasol (both players on my team) got injured.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    6-8 inches in Brooklyn? Meh. Light as hell, easy to shovel. The park must look fantastic.

    I’ll assume MannyGeee is up to his nose in snow.

    Hope our RABers in CT and LI are doing alright this morning. You got, in the words of Dr. Jack Ramsay, da slammmma.

  • Pistol Pete

    Just looked up career stats for Joe Morgan and Ryne Sandberg both Hall of Fame second basemen. If Cano stays healthy and can double his stats the next eight years which of course is no guaranty, he will blow away the stats of both Morgan and Sandberg. Presently over his first eight years he has a much better batting average, better obp, much better slugging and ops. He’ll end up with more Hr’s than both most likely over 400 and be one of the greatest second basemen of all time. How sad it would be if the Yankees can’t sign their own Hall of Fame potential players. For Christ’s sale Hal we’re not the Expos, Royals, or Ray’s we’re the fucking Yankees. Give him his money, show the fans some consideration and get the job done. While you’re at it please trade for a catcher, we can’t start the season with a Cervelli/Stewart combination.

  • Max K

    GREG GOLSON!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!