Game 23: A Scoreless First?

CC Sabathia


CC Sabathia might have the quietest 3.34 ERA in baseball right now. He hasn’t been particularly sharp in any of his five starts outside of his seven shutout innings in Detroit, and he’s been prone to the “one bad inning.” The Red Sox scored four runs against him in the second inning on Opening Day, the Diamondbacks scored two runs against him in the first inning two starts ago, and the Rays scored four runs against him in the first last time out. Six of the 14 runs he’s allowed this year have come in that first inning (42.9%), which is way more than the league average (21.7%). Today would be as good a time as any to reverse that annoying trend. Here is the starting lineup that will face left-hander J.A. Happ…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. 3B Jayson Nix
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. LF Vernon Wells
  5. 1B Kevin Youkiliscame through batting practice after missing a week with back trouble
  6. DH Travis Hafner
  7. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  8. SS Eduardo Nunez
  9. C Chris Stewart

And on the mound is the big man, CC Sabathia.

It’s a gorgeous day for baseball in New York. First pitch is scheduled for a little after 4pm ET and can be seen on YES. It’s not a FOX game despite the unusual start time, so hooray for that. Enjoy the game.

Roster Move(s): In case you missed it earlier, Ivan Nova was placed on the 15-day with right triceps inflammation. Vidal Nuno has been called up from Triple-A to take his spot. Austin Romine was also recalled to replace Frankie Cervelli, who was officially placed on the 15-day DL with a broken right hand.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Laz says:

    Obviously a typo.

    No way Hafner is starting over Francisco, with a lhp and all.

  2. Laz says:

    wish it was a fox game so could watch it on the tube. Although they would most likely make me watch the Nats or O’s instead.

  3. trr says:

    had to look twice myself

  4. jjyank says:

    Glad to see Youk back in the lineup. Also nice to see Hafner in against a lefty this time. He can’t really be worse than Francisco. Can’t say I like seeing Nix bat second, but that lineup looks much better to me with Youk back and Hafner in.

  5. fabricio says:

    lets kick happ’s ass todays game should be payback for what he did to Granderson

  6. Eddard says:

    There’s no reason they can’t take 3/4 and 7/10 on the home stand. CC needs to give us 7-8 tonight since Mo won’t be available. Joba and Drob have also been used 2 straight days. Girardi finally wised up and realized that Hafner vs a lefty is miles better than Francisco vs anybody.

  7. LK says:

    Seriously, Jayson Nix batting 2nd AGAIN? At least batting order doesn’t really matter, unless you do something like hit one of your worst hitters in arguably the most important spot. Oh wait…

    • Eddard says:

      Yeah, if Youk were healthy I’d put him up at #2. He’s a patient hitter, gets on base and would split up the lefties. Put Wells at #4 and Hafner #5.

      • LK says:

        Yeah it seems pretty obvious that Gardner, Youk, Cano, Wells, and Hafner are the 5 best hitters in this lineup by a huge margin. I don’t care what order they’re in, but those guys have to be the top half of the order.

      • jjyank says:

        Well apparently Youk is healthy.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      I don’t like it either, but amazingly, 2011-2013, Nix is the third best hitter in that lineup vs. LHP by wRC+ (behind Youkilis and Wells). So maybe the decision is not quite as horrible as it appears at first blush (though I’m admittedly cherry-picking the year range).

      • LK says:

        OK, but he’s still hitting in a more important spot than Youk even though he has worse numbers. I’d be fine with Nix hitting 6th today, or maybe even 5th, but I don’t think you can make the case he deserves the 2nd spot.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

          I agree. I don’t like him batting second. Just saying it might not be quite as horrible as it would seem.

          • LK says:

            For sure. I was definitely exaggerating a bit in my original post. The bottom of the lineup is putrid enough where Nix isn’t as far down on the totem pole as we’d all prefer.

  8. Havok9120 says:

    Forward for Prussia!

    Let us crush them and hear the lamenting of their women.

  9. Stratman9652 says:

    A scoreless first? Hell, I’d trade that for a game against the Jays that the whole 25 man roster gets through unscathed right about now.

  10. Stratman9652 says:

    It just hit me that Paul O’Neil looks like Screech from Saved by the Bell.

  11. forensic says:

    Given the injury situation, I guess it only makes sense for Hafner to be the one to get injured today since he’s finally starting against a lefty like we’ve all been begging for…

    Good to see Youk get his ass back in the lineup, hopefully he starts hitting lefties finally too since he hasn’t had a hit against one since opening day.

    Still wish Nix wouldn’t bat second now, which I guess is Girardi’s new obsession, but I guess it is what it is for right now.

  12. Rolling Doughnut says:

    What? Francisco not in the lineup? Joe and the binder must have had a falling out.

  13. Dalek Jeter says:

    Anybody worried that they might have rushed Youk back a day or two early…or maybe Youk rushed himself back because of the injuries?

    • jjyank says:

      I dunno. They seemed to keep pushing him back a day, and then another for awhile now. Seems like they were pretty cautious, if anything.

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        I know..but I always think it’s going to be a little longer than they say. In this case they said on Thursday the earliest Youk would be back would be today, so I just assumed we weren’t going to see him until tomorrow or until the Astro’s series really.

        • jjyank says:

          Fair enough. I can’t say I’m worried though. He took BP a couple days ago and decided he couldn’t play, so if he took BP today and was fine, I’ll give him/them the benefit of the doubt.

        • forensic says:

          Or you could turn it around and say he was day-to-day expecting him back on Monday when they went to Tampa.

          So they gave him 5 extra days.

          He’s fine, they’re constantly overly, possibly even unnecessarily cautious, and this was no different. It took forever.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Now you’re just looking for something to worry over.

  14. forensic says:

    CC really needs to step up today and pitch like he can. The bullpen is certainly a little short and maybe a lot short depending on Joba/Robertson, so he needs to go pretty deep…

    like 9 shutout innings kind of deep.

  15. Dalek Jeter says:

    According to Gameday, Gardner is getting a couple inches off the outside corner to LHH.

  16. forensic says:

    Such a solid AB, until that last terrible swing.

  17. Pseudoyanks says:

    Take that Nix haters!

  18. Dalek Jeter says:

    I love Robbie, he’s probably my favorite player apart from Jeter, but somebody should tell John Sterling that Robbie sucked against LHP last season.

  19. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:


    Girardi, however, lauded third baseman Kevin Youkilis for helping everybody forget that Alex Rodriguez is still on the team.

  20. forensic says:

    Terrible swing Wells. Come on man, you’ve been terrific against lefties and this team. Put it together in this AB!

  21. The Real Greg says:

    Kay just FALLACY’d himself

  22. Havok9120 says:

    Same pitch, same location, 2-1.

  23. JonS says:

    #Fire Kevin Long

    Wait, are we still too early for that? lol

  24. Tom says:

    25 pitch inning…. if they keep grinding out AB’s Happ won’t be around very long and they will continue to wear out that bullpen.

  25. Dalek Jeter says:

    If I were Joe I’d do:

  26. forensic says:

    The last thing I want to see again today is ‘one flap up’. That kind of shit really pisses me off.

  27. Havok9120 says:

    Good Lord. Paulie.

  28. forensic says:

    Wow, the ball may not be traveling much because I thought that was long gone.

  29. forensic says:

    Can’t believe Girardi started Hafner against a lefty. He’s terrible!!!


  30. Rubano says:

    Don’t comment on here too often, but I know that some people on here aren’t too high on Paulie in the booth, but I think he’s done a really nice job the past 2 games.

  31. forensic says:

    All these lefty pitchers are also slowing down the basestealers. Ichiro has to try to and get to second so he can score if Stewart flukes a grounders through the hole.

  32. Dalek Jeter says:

    That was the worst call of a diving catch ever, John

    “Hit…um…diving stop at short.” No excitement, nothing…

  33. nsalem says:

    Happ 44 pitches
    CC 24 pitches
    we’re winning

    • Havok9120 says:

      We shall win it in a Seven Years War style war of attrition.

      • nsalem says:

        attrition is the mission. I think both bullpens were used in the last two nights so I think there is a good chance this game will be won with offense inning 7-9

      • Pat D says:

        Were the Prussians involved in that?

        • Dalek Jeter says:

          No, that was one of the 90055001 times The British Empire and France went to war.

          • Pat D says:

            That much I knew. But sometimes there are the ancillary combatants.

            As Lewis Black might say, “Ancillary. A word I’ve never fucking used!”

          • Havok9120 says:

            Look below.

            90% of the war took place in Central Europe. It’s also known as the Third Silesian War.

        • Havok9120 says:

          Yeah. It was basically a world war. Prussia was the main land combatant on the British side. Which meant they were fighting Russia, Austria, France, and Sweden all at once. Not the best diplomatic move Frederick the Great ever came up with.

          There’s a great quote by William Pitt: “America was won in Germany,” in reference to the Prussians doing their thing.

          • Pat D says:

            American Independence was won by the French and the Prussians. For the French, the result was the French Revolution. Which was won by Napoleon.

            • Havok9120 says:

              All the cringes.

              Prussia was neutral, though there were German auxiliaries involved…fighting for the Brits. They were mostly Hessians though.

              As for your Napoleon thing…no. Just no. You’re gonna make me cry.

            • Havok9120 says:

              But I’d assumed you’re referencing the crazy drillmaster that Washington loved. I always preferred Polaski. Dude was a nut.

              • Pat D says:

                I was being mostly joking. Yea, I was referring to Von Steuben, I believe it was?

                The Napoleon thing? Eh, my memory is most assuredly off, but it just always seems that the French Revolution started with a king and ended with an emperor, so they didn’t really achieve much.

                But that’s because I think the French were batshit crazy.

                • Havok9120 says:

                  Yeah, von Steuben.

                  The French also sucked at being revolutionaries. They tend to lose horrible or completely screw it up if they succeed. You’re “end with an Emperor” thing is spot on. Takes him awhile to get there though and then he promptly dismantles most of the “revolutionary” aspects of his government. And then, of course, his government collapsed. Oops.

                  Louis Napoleon is fun though. Re-founds the empire based on the premise that he’s related to Napoleon and then runs it into the ground.

                  • Pat D says:

                    He committed one of the classic blunders.

                    Though I guess technically he never reached the Asian portion of Russia.

                    • Havok9120 says:

                      Not quite, no. But invading Russia is, of itself, a pretty classic blunder. You’d think the Swedes’ experience in fighting the Russians would have convinced him there wasn’t much to be gained.

                    • Pat D says:

                      Classic case of American bias: We’ve adopted the 1812 Overture for our own and play it at big July 4th events, just because it has “1812″ in it.

                      I’ll bet most Americans have no idea why it was written.

                    • Havok9120 says:

                      It’s been amusing when, during my American Foreign Policy lecture last semester, I brought up that mayyyyybe the Napoleonic Wars (hate that term) ending had something to do with the Brits being happy to just call it a day during the War of 1812.

                      Bringing up a topic outside the professor’s area of expertise and tying it into a class discussion is the best way I’ve ever found to flummox a teacher.

                    • Pat D says:

                      Jeez, considering their relative concurrence, you’d at least think they have a passing knowledge.

                    • Havok9120 says:

                      I’ve had this discussion with a lot of professors, but it’s pretty clear that most professors, especially active researchers like all of mine, tend to get sucked so deep into their specialty that they don’t pick up much from outside it. It’s a real shame.

  34. oldmanalex says:

    top of the third and michael kay already talking about no hitters

  35. Magilla Gorilla says:

    If you are listening to the game through your computer, give yourself a treat and listen to the best radio team doing MLB on SN590. Jerry Howarth and Jack Morris.

    Howarth is very much in the tradition of Vin Scully. Howarth toils in Toronto, so he is largely unknown.

    The great pitcher, Jack Morris, who we remember from his Tigers and Twins and Blue Jays days, does great color.

  36. Havok9120 says:

    Darn it.

  37. oldmanalex says:

    I’ve seen derek make that play in his sleep

  38. forensic says:

    Not a big fan of playing the IF back there with Davis up and a lefty on the mound for them.

  39. Wheels says:

    I hope Youk didn’t tweak his back there.

  40. oldmanalex says:

    For every pastadivingjeter, there is a inandoutofnunez’glove

    • Yankee Fan 1 says:

      Yup this. It’s a definite trade-off. Also pretty sure Jeter never hit .170. I’m rooting for Nunez, but he really needs to pick it up with the bat

  41. forensic says:

    After those hits I was thinking that it always seems like it’s the bottom of the order doing damage against CC, like he’s letting up at those points or something.

    The splits sort of bear it out too:
    6th: .385/.467/.692
    7th: .308/.400/.308
    9th: .429/.467/.643

    The 8th spot had been shut out till Izturis there.

    With that double, the 6th and 9th spots now have the highest OPS against CC of any lineup spots, followed by the 2nd spot and then the 7th spot.

    He needs to figure that out, because the big boys in the middle can really do damage to you very often and putting the bad hitters on in front of them is horrible.

    • Pat D says:

      Small sample size, no?

      • forensic says:

        Of course, but I’m just talking about the start of the year. They’re all around 15-20 PA. Yeah, things can change, but it’s held so far through his starts.

      • Rolling Doughnut says:

        Just thinking the same thing. What were the splits last year?

      • forensic says:

        And if you’re curious, last year the 6th spot was his second highest OPS against, with the 8th and 9th spots his 4th and 5th highest against.

        In 2011, the 9th spot was the second highest OPS against and the 6th spot was his third highest OPS against.

        So it’s somewhat consistent.

  42. Pat D says:

    Scurvy fuck.

  43. Rolling Doughnut says:

    .260 .326 .494 .819
    .152 .202 .165 .367
    .304 .337 .380 .717
    .263 .317 .395 .712

    Lat year 6, 7, 8, 9

    No correlation?

  44. Wheels says:

    Fuckin Blue Jays.

  45. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Defensive catcher.

  46. forensic says:

    Geez Stewart, catch the damn ball!!!

  47. Pat D says:

    Dammit, I had something important to say and now I can’t remember what it was.

  48. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Fuck Chris Stewart.

  49. Eddard says:

    God Stewart is bad. Great throw by Ichiro.

  50. SDB says:

    I miss Cervelli already.

  51. Pat D says:

    Cervelli would have made both those plays!!!!!!

  52. Leg-End says:

    Romine makes that play….amiright?

  53. forensic says:

    Fuck you Stewart! Get off this damn team!

    You have one fucking job on this roster, and that’s to catch the damn ball, and you constantly fail at it.

  54. oldmanalex says:

    Is it concerning that CC can’t get anyone out anymore…

  55. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Prety lame. But CC is not helping himself. No command of the off-speed. Again.

  56. forensic says:

    Meanwhile, with or without Stewart’s suckiness, this if FAR from CC stepping up to pitch well like they needed him to.

    And this against the only lineup in the AL that may actually be worse against lefties than the Yankees. Absolutely pitiful.

  57. Eddard says:

    Girardi should remove the entire battery. Put in Warren and Romine. Surely they can’t do much worse.

  58. Pasta says:

    CC throwing batting practice

  59. Rolling Doughnut says:

    This year it’s taking CC quite a long time to morph into CC. I wonder if there is a health issue. Or maybe as Mike has opined:Alternatively, he could just be pitching poorly)

  60. forensic says:

    By the way, Chris Stewart is now second in the league among all non-knuckleball catchers in passed balls, despite playing many fewer games than the others.

    Yeah, it’s just the two passed balls, but still it’s terrible. Cervelli had 0 passed balls in all his games.

  61. Wheels says:

    Welp, guess we’re just gonna make an another comeback.

  62. Pasta says:

    Stewart leads the league in past balls and suckyness.

  63. Pasta says:

    You guys remember it was Happ that took out granderson in ST
    Yankees should be kicking his ass for that.

  64. forensic says:

    Well, let’s see how they decide to not score this time…

  65. Dalek Jeter says:

    He will be a Pronx Bomber momentarily.

  66. nsalem says:

    I hope a big hit here will convince Girardi that BF should be gone

  67. Dalek Jeter says:


  68. Eddard says:


  69. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Can’t hit lefties.
    Should’ve played Francisco instead.

  70. Havok9120 says:



  71. forensic says:

    Damnit!!! Hafner can’t hit lefties.

    Where the hell is Francisco!?!?!?

    Get me a righty, I don’t care who it is!

  72. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Welcome to the Pronx!

  73. Wheels says:

    Love it

  74. bobtaco says:

    Be Francisco would have done that, amirate?

  75. Pat D says:


  76. Pasta says:

    Davis trying to climb the fence lol that ball was middle pen lol

  77. jjyank says:

    And this is why Hafner >>>>> Francisco, even against lefties :D

  78. Rolling Doughnut says:

    See what good things happen Joe when you lose the binder?

  79. Stratman9652 says:

    I almost feel sorry for the Jays. Almost.

  80. Rubano says:

    Love that swing Nuney!

  81. Pasta says:

    Bye bye francisco
    You know romine can dh too hes a right power guy.

  82. forensic says:

    Steal Nunez!

  83. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Run Noonie Run

  84. Pat D says:

    Can Nunez ever not lose his helmet?

  85. Pasta says:

    Chris the blackhole stewart.

  86. Dalek Jeter says:

    Does Happ have a really good move or something? I’m surprised Nunie hasn’t gone for second yet.

  87. ROBTEN says:

    CC seems to be sitting around 90 with the FB (at least according to the YES gun). It seems to me that the Blue Jays’ hitters were getting out in front earlier in the game, perhaps expecting more velocity, but last inning, outside of Bautisa’s HR, had begun to wait back on the FB. With CC throwing more FB last inning, the Blue Jays were able to capitalize.

    Either CC will have to push the velocity on the FB up a bit next inning, or really work in the off-speed stuff to try to throw the hitters’ timing back off.

  88. oldmanalex says:

    in no particular order gardner/jeter/wells/youk/robbie/teixeira/arod/hafner/ ichiro … I think it’s gonna be a pretty good summer.

  89. Long-Past-His-Day-Rod says:

    And that should be the end of Benny F.

    Don’t play Pronk against lefties they said, trust a random righty they said…

    • jjyank says:

      Hafner still can’t play every day though. Not if you want to try to keep him healthy all year. I do want an upgrade over Francisco, but Hafner getting injured and worn out won’t help matters either.

      • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod says:

        I can’t argue with you there, we need him healthy. I just don’t think that needs to mean he sits against every single LHP.

        And there’s still a part of me that thinks “how the hell is he going to get hurt just batting and not playing the field” but I’ll know he’ll find a way (or the Blue Jays will find a way to injure him)

  90. Winter says:

    How awesome would a double steal be here? Not saying they’ll do it, but it’d be awesome.

  91. Wheels says:

    This has been a fun season to watch thus far.

  92. forensic says:

    Damn, and that’s why you gotta try to steal.

    Happ doesn’t even appear to be that quick to the plate and Arencibia is not throwing anyone out. No idea why they’re not running on him, it’s very aggravating.

  93. nsalem says:

    82-56 CC the lead is extending.

  94. forensic says:

    Damn, that’s not how to start an inning. CC’s gotta catch or stop that ball. It’s right to him.

  95. Rolling Doughnut says:

    All the offspeed suff is UP. Fuck

  96. Pasta says:

    Stewart catching is like watching beer league softball

  97. forensic says:

    Good to see Rothschild finally on the phone. This could get ugly in a hurry.

  98. Pasta says:

    Get warren up

  99. JRod says:

    Bautista is so due to be knocked on his ass. Too bad they’ve got baserunners.

  100. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Tired of this CC get your shit together.

  101. oldmanalex says:

    I’m tired of hearing, “didn’t have his great stuff today but he battled”

  102. Dalek Jeter says:

    CC, you need to be better than this.

  103. Rolling Doughnut says:

    CC throws a cookie to Baustista. He is not right this year.

  104. Pasta says:

    Toronto juicers

  105. Dalek Jeter says:

    Bautista has Adam Dunn type numbers…hitting below .200 but already 7 homers.

    • nsalem says:

      The way he is striding into the ball it looks like he would be off balance only if he walks into the pitch he is looking for

  106. forensic says:


    Really bumping it up there now…

  107. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Thank you.

  108. Stratman9652 says:

    John Gibbons looks like a miserable prick.

  109. forensic says:

    Stewart channeling his inner Cervelli with a fist pump.

    If only he would channel his inner Cervelli by catching pitches, catching throws, and hitting…

    • jjyank says:

      I wonder what your reaction would be if you traveled back in time 2 months and said that to your past self :P

      • forensic says:

        I would’ve said the same thing.

        I’ve been high on Cervelli all offseason and there was a clear improvement in his defense throughout ST, which I understand is in those 2 months.

        Stewart has always sucked at everything.

        • jjyank says:

          Fair enough. Though Cervelli wasn’t exactly a gold glover 2 months ago, and we had no reason to think he’d have that kind of power.

          Don’t get me wrong, as ST went along, I became totally cool with Cervelli over Martin. I just find it kinda funny that we’d be asking anyone to channel their inner-Cervelli of all people. I love that he’s hit well enough to warrant such a comment, but it still seems funny to me.

  110. Pasta says:

    Maybe we see nuno today

  111. Rolling Doughnut says:

    CC cleans up his mess. OK

  112. Tom says:

    CC’s got to pitch inside more… you can still work inside when throwing 90-91mph.

    These Toronto righties are dead pull hitters (esp Bautista and Encarnacion) and will pull the pitch on the outside corner because they are so close to the plate.

  113. Pasta says:

    Youlklis still a bitcher just go to the dugout kev. Your a Yankee now show some class.

  114. Dalek Jeter says:

    Brett Fuckin Lawrie? Really CC? that Scurvy Fuck?

  115. Pat D says:

    Really starting to dislike Lawrie.

  116. Pasta says:

    Juicy hit

  117. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Everything’s up, poor control and topping out at 91.Joe postgame: CC found a way to battle through it. Kinda sick of this shit now.

  118. yankeesfan1986 says:

    Why is CC still in the game? Was 2 awful innings not enough, Joe?

  119. forensic says:

    And an 8 pitch inning for Happ followed by a leadoff homer against Sabathia and suddenly he’s behind in the score and just a couple pitches ahead of Happ.

    That’s why it’s not always that big a deal, because it changes in a hurry, especially the way this offense usually goes against lefties and how CC is looking today.

  120. Pasta says:

    Its not emotion Paul
    Its roid rage.

  121. Dalek Jeter says:

    Reasons I want to be a professional baseball player:
    1. Ridiculous sums of money for even the lowest paid guys for playing a kids game.

    2. Get to travel the country, and parts of Canada, in first class.

    3. You can grow ridiculous beards/mustaches.

  122. jjyank says:

    On a lighter note…anyone ever have a cucumber hibiscus ale? I’m enjoying a Magic Hicu, and I’m pleasantly surprised. A pretty refreshing summer beer.

    Cheers everyone.

  123. Pasta says:

    Ichiro gets hot have to move him up to leadoff.

  124. forensic says:

    Guess the pitchers are working on their bunting already…

  125. Pasta says:

    Girardi should fine the next catcher that does not put his non glove hand behind him.

  126. Dalek Jeter says:

    John and Suzyn are talking about when they were 29…back when there was steam powered everything and the radio was a new thing…

  127. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Seemed like Ichiro could’ve gotten there.

  128. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Lovin’ the deflated version of the Melk man

  129. forensic says:

    CC has owned Bautista through their careers, but Bautista has already homered today and CC doesn’t have much working for him, and just barely got away with a pitch last AB.

    Not a huge fan of leaving him in there. But it’s close.

  130. forensic says:

    Kay can’t wear sunglasses to drive???

    Out here you can’t drive without sunglasses.

  131. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Got lucky. He executed that pitch horribly.

  132. Havok9120 says:

    You’re fine Brett. Totally fine. DON’T ACT OTHERWISE.

    Be strong for Prussia.

  133. bobtaco says:

    Who has Gardner in the pool as the next to drop?

  134. Eddard says:

    CC might have injured Gardner. I’m sick of this well he kept us in the ballgame. That’s what you say about a 5th starter. CC got lucky he only gave up 4 today.

  135. Pasta says:

    Thats a concrete wall out there in center under those pads

  136. forensic says:

    I hate that quick pitch crap. You should be required to come set even when there aren’t guys are base.

    It’s asinine that there are different rules which only give the pitcher an advantage. It’s not like there’s anything that gives the hitter a similar advantage like that.

  137. Havok9120 says:

    Alright Vern. Time to bust a move FOR PRUSSIA.

  138. The Real Greg says:

    There we go.

  139. forensic says:

    Hallelujah!!! A hit with RISP!

  140. bobtaco says:

    You gotta love Wells’ approach

  141. Eddard says:

    This is why this lineup is still dangerous. And they still have to get through Hafner.

  142. vicki says:

    if there’s a heaven, and i go, it’ll be vernon wells hitting against the blue jays.

  143. Havok9120 says:



    • Vern Sneaker says:

      All your Prussia posts led me to Wiki it, since my education was heavily Englush,, Amer. Hist, and law. Interesting stuff, but then Hitler took over after all those centuries.

      • Havok9120 says:

        Yeah. The Prussian government (it still existed after unification as a local gov’t) did everything they could to try and arrest Hitler. He was persona non grata throughout Prussia, and thus most northern German population centers, for most of the late 20s.

        He didn’t exactly take kindly to that once he gained power despite their efforts. You can imagine the repercussions.

  144. forensic says:

    Kind of glad they’re leaving the righty in there for Youk since he’s shown no signs of hitting them so far this season but he’s killed righties.

    Hopefully it works out for us.

  145. Dalek Jeter says:

    Wells does well!

  146. The Real Greg says:

    Blue Jays go to Cecil

  147. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    You better be safe.

  148. Dalek Jeter says:


  149. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Should’ve PH.

  150. SDB says:

    I love Travis Hafner. That is all.

  151. forensic says:

    Yeah Haf!!!

    Thanks Davis!

    Anyone else and that’s an inside-the-parker, but the triple is cool anyway.

  152. Cy Pettitte says:

    me Pronk, me SMASH

  153. Winter says:


  154. vicki says:

    say it, joe. say you were wrong.

  155. Eddard says:

    Travis Hafner against a lefty is miles better than Ben Francisco against anybody.

  156. Tom says:

    Not clear why they were pitching to Pronk… but thank you Mr Gibbons!

    Hopefully this buys some AB’s for Pronk against lefties…he’s obviously not going to hit this well, but he’s still a better option than Francisco.

  157. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Please don’t leave CC in.

  158. The Real Greg says:

    Robertson will have to close today. They’re not pitching Mo 3 days in a row.

  159. jjyank says:

    I love CC, but he better have the shortest of short leashes here. The one baserunner variety.

  160. BigBlueAL says:

    Maybe Joba closes since both DRob and Mo have pitched 2 days in a row??

  161. Tom says:

    4 out save for Robertson? Lawrie scares me.

  162. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Dodged a bullet. Two hard hit balls. The BB gods are with us today.

  163. Cy Pettitte says:

    CC 8IP and in line for the W, wasn’t expecting that a few innings ago.

    • Havok9120 says:

      No kidding. That’s why I don’t get the anger toward “Worked hard without his best stuff and gave us distance and a chance.” I mean, sheesh. Sure I’d prefer domination, but this is quite something too.

      • jjyank says:

        Someone from that crowd quipped something along the lines of “that’s what I expect from a #5 starter, not CC”. Yeah, it was dominance, but a #5 starter doesn’t get you 8 innings and a lead without his best stuff. No way around it.

  164. Dalek Jeter says:

    I think CC might be coming out for the 9th, just a gut feeling.

  165. SDB says:

    I didn’t want CC in there either, but shit, 3 outs on 7 pitches? I never saw that coming.

    Wouldn’t be shocked if he tries to pitch through the ninth, and right now, I won’t complain.

    (But please, can there be an insurance run added in the bottom of the 8th?)

  166. nsalem says:

    Let CC finish himself. Best Option

  167. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Jobber or (formerly) Houdini for the 9th?

  168. CUYanks says:

    112 pitches. I wouldn’t put it past Joe to at least start the 9th with CC. He’s a slave to his bullpen rules.

  169. Eddard says:

    CC wasn’t good today but he gave us 8 and ended his day with the lead. Maybe he’ll come back out for the 9th and they’ll go batter to batter.

  170. Tom says:

    Clearly this has Nuno written all over it!

    (could you imagine that though?)

  171. The Real Greg says:

    Joba is up and Nuno is stretching

  172. Leg-End says:

    Joba for his first save since 2010 then.

  173. Havok9120 says:

    Alllllright Joba. Let’s get this done.

  174. Pasta says:

    Joba needs a save on the old resume

  175. Winter says:

    Let’s if see Joba can hit 98 today.

  176. nsalem says:

    CC’s lowest lifetime OPS split against is after 100 picthes

  177. Anthony says:

    Ooh, Joba it is then.

  178. forensic says:

    Somewhat interesting that it’s Joba over Robertson.

    Wonder if there will be some mixing and matching going on depending on who ends up hitting.

  179. Now Batting says:

    Time to put that closer mentality bullshit to the test

  180. bobtaco says:

    Already warming up Warren for the inevitable tie game….

  181. forensic says:

    Geez Joba, not the easiest way to go about it, but the result is fine.

  182. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Ballsy 3-2 pitch nice

  183. Vern Sneaker says:

    Joba’s got me maximally nervous.

  184. Anthony says:

    WOW, nice play by Nix

  185. Havok9120 says:

    Still a nice play to get to that.

  186. Dalek Jeter says:

    Couldn’t just be an easy 1-2-3, Jobber?

  187. forensic says:

    This is not going well…

    And I have to get to work.

    Come on Joba!!!

  188. Now Batting says:

    Ugh god job fielding it, good throw may have gotten him though.

  189. SDB says:

    shudder… so this is what it’ll be like next year after Mo.

  190. Havok9120 says:

    Dang. 97. Breathe, Joba.

  191. forensic says:

    Ok, one more!

  192. jjyank says:

    One more, Jobbers. You got this.

  193. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Milk is off the juice Joba put him away!

  194. Eddard says:

    Just throw the high heat right past him, Joba.

  195. Pasta says:

    Come on jobs

  196. Dalek Jeter says:

    Ball game.

  197. JRod says:

    Joba gets it done. Sweet.

  198. Vern Sneaker says:

    Don’t know what the rest of the year holds, but so far this team is FUN!

  199. Havok9120 says:


    Very, very, very nice win.

  200. jjyank says:

    Aaaaaand exhale. Whew.

    Great win. Fuck the Blue Jays.

  201. forensic says:


    Great win, though it had its frustrating parts, still great!

    Awesome taking the first three of the series!!!

  202. Rolling Doughnut says:


  203. CUYanks says:

    Win number 195 for the big man. He’ll be soon approaching 200, at a much younger age than basically all of the recent 200-win guys.

  204. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Jobs did it for Prussia. We all did it for Prussia

  205. Eddard says:

    If Girardi had stuck to his guns and played Ben Francisco we wouldn’t have won this ballgame. And don’t give me Kay’s fallacy argument, Francisco wasn’t doing shit today, certainly not driving in 4 runs.

  206. Larry B. says:

    Why didn’t Mariano pitch 9th?

    • forensic says:

      Pitched two straight days. He’s apparently too fragile to pitch 3 straight days.

      • forensic says:

        And no, that’s not a knock against Mo, because I’m sure he would pitch. It’s just a continuation of the overdone cautiousness of the organization and specifically Girardi.

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