Apr
27

Game 23: A Scoreless First?

By
CC Sabathia

(Elsa/Getty)

CC Sabathia might have the quietest 3.34 ERA in baseball right now. He hasn’t been particularly sharp in any of his five starts outside of his seven shutout innings in Detroit, and he’s been prone to the “one bad inning.” The Red Sox scored four runs against him in the second inning on Opening Day, the Diamondbacks scored two runs against him in the first inning two starts ago, and the Rays scored four runs against him in the first last time out. Six of the 14 runs he’s allowed this year have come in that first inning (42.9%), which is way more than the league average (21.7%). Today would be as good a time as any to reverse that annoying trend. Here is the starting lineup that will face left-hander J.A. Happ…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. 3B Jayson Nix
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. LF Vernon Wells
  5. 1B Kevin Youkiliscame through batting practice after missing a week with back trouble
  6. DH Travis Hafner
  7. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  8. SS Eduardo Nunez
  9. C Chris Stewart

And on the mound is the big man, CC Sabathia.

It’s a gorgeous day for baseball in New York. First pitch is scheduled for a little after 4pm ET and can be seen on YES. It’s not a FOX game despite the unusual start time, so hooray for that. Enjoy the game.

Roster Move(s): In case you missed it earlier, Ivan Nova was placed on the 15-day with right triceps inflammation. Vidal Nuno has been called up from Triple-A to take his spot. Austin Romine was also recalled to replace Frankie Cervelli, who was officially placed on the 15-day DL with a broken right hand.

Categories : Game Threads
  • Laz

    Obviously a typo.

    No way Hafner is starting over Francisco, with a lhp and all.

  • Laz

    wish it was a fox game so could watch it on the tube. Although they would most likely make me watch the Nats or O’s instead.

  • trr

    had to look twice myself

  • jjyank

    Glad to see Youk back in the lineup. Also nice to see Hafner in against a lefty this time. He can’t really be worse than Francisco. Can’t say I like seeing Nix bat second, but that lineup looks much better to me with Youk back and Hafner in.

  • fabricio

    lets kick happ’s ass todays game should be payback for what he did to Granderson

  • Eddard

    There’s no reason they can’t take 3/4 and 7/10 on the home stand. CC needs to give us 7-8 tonight since Mo won’t be available. Joba and Drob have also been used 2 straight days. Girardi finally wised up and realized that Hafner vs a lefty is miles better than Francisco vs anybody.

  • LK

    Seriously, Jayson Nix batting 2nd AGAIN? At least batting order doesn’t really matter, unless you do something like hit one of your worst hitters in arguably the most important spot. Oh wait…

    • Eddard

      Yeah, if Youk were healthy I’d put him up at #2. He’s a patient hitter, gets on base and would split up the lefties. Put Wells at #4 and Hafner #5.

      • LK

        Yeah it seems pretty obvious that Gardner, Youk, Cano, Wells, and Hafner are the 5 best hitters in this lineup by a huge margin. I don’t care what order they’re in, but those guys have to be the top half of the order.

      • jjyank

        Well apparently Youk is healthy.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      I don’t like it either, but amazingly, 2011-2013, Nix is the third best hitter in that lineup vs. LHP by wRC+ (behind Youkilis and Wells). So maybe the decision is not quite as horrible as it appears at first blush (though I’m admittedly cherry-picking the year range).

      • LK

        OK, but he’s still hitting in a more important spot than Youk even though he has worse numbers. I’d be fine with Nix hitting 6th today, or maybe even 5th, but I don’t think you can make the case he deserves the 2nd spot.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          I agree. I don’t like him batting second. Just saying it might not be quite as horrible as it would seem.

          • LK

            For sure. I was definitely exaggerating a bit in my original post. The bottom of the lineup is putrid enough where Nix isn’t as far down on the totem pole as we’d all prefer.

  • Havok9120

    Forward for Prussia!

    Let us crush them and hear the lamenting of their women.

  • http://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    A scoreless first? Hell, I’d trade that for a game against the Jays that the whole 25 man roster gets through unscathed right about now.

  • http://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    It just hit me that Paul O’Neil looks like Screech from Saved by the Bell.

    • Havok9120

      Wow. You’re about two decades late to the party.

      • jjyank

        Partyyyyy!

      • http://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

        That still qualifies as fashionably late, right?

        • Havok9120

          Roll with it, says I.

  • forensic

    Given the injury situation, I guess it only makes sense for Hafner to be the one to get injured today since he’s finally starting against a lefty like we’ve all been begging for…

    Good to see Youk get his ass back in the lineup, hopefully he starts hitting lefties finally too since he hasn’t had a hit against one since opening day.

    Still wish Nix wouldn’t bat second now, which I guess is Girardi’s new obsession, but I guess it is what it is for right now.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    What? Francisco not in the lineup? Joe and the binder must have had a falling out.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Anybody worried that they might have rushed Youk back a day or two early…or maybe Youk rushed himself back because of the injuries?

    • jjyank

      I dunno. They seemed to keep pushing him back a day, and then another for awhile now. Seems like they were pretty cautious, if anything.

      • Dalek Jeter

        I know..but I always think it’s going to be a little longer than they say. In this case they said on Thursday the earliest Youk would be back would be today, so I just assumed we weren’t going to see him until tomorrow or until the Astro’s series really.

        • jjyank

          Fair enough. I can’t say I’m worried though. He took BP a couple days ago and decided he couldn’t play, so if he took BP today and was fine, I’ll give him/them the benefit of the doubt.

        • forensic

          Or you could turn it around and say he was day-to-day expecting him back on Monday when they went to Tampa.

          So they gave him 5 extra days.

          He’s fine, they’re constantly overly, possibly even unnecessarily cautious, and this was no different. It took forever.

          • Dalek Jeter

            Fair enough.

    • Havok9120

      Now you’re just looking for something to worry over.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Greg and I have more in common than I will ever admit.

        • jjyank

          FALLACY

  • forensic

    CC really needs to step up today and pitch like he can. The bullpen is certainly a little short and maybe a lot short depending on Joba/Robertson, so he needs to go pretty deep…

    like 9 shutout innings kind of deep.

    • Dalek Jeter

      That’s a great start then!

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Or the Yankees could just kick Happ’s ass and Warren can get a chance to pitch.

      /ycpb

      • Dalek Jeter

        Unleash Nuno!!!

      • forensic

        Between this and your Nix comment, you’ve got your extra optimistic hat on today, huh? ;-)

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          Chances of it happening are slimmer than Edwar Ramirez, but you never know.

          • jjyank

            Hah, that’s a pretty great line.

  • Dalek Jeter

    According to Gameday, Gardner is getting a couple inches off the outside corner to LHH.

  • forensic

    Such a solid AB, until that last terrible swing.

  • Pseudoyanks

    Take that Nix haters!

    • Havok9120

      He’s channeling the negativity into talent.

      • Dalek Jeter

        By my hatred alone, he should become an allstar/borderline HOF.

        • Havok9120

          It’s not a 1:1 transference.

          • Dalek Jeter

            Are you saying I should hate harder than?

            • Havok9120

              Do it for Prussia.

        • forensic

          Does RT’s support of him cancel that out though?

          • Havok9120

            Probably. But Tilapia is always sabotaging the team.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Him and all the lemmings I mean…

          • Dalek Jeter

            My hatred for Jayson is near Pedro levels…so I don’t think so.

  • Dalek Jeter

    I love Robbie, he’s probably my favorite player apart from Jeter, but somebody should tell John Sterling that Robbie sucked against LHP last season.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    http://www.theonion.com/articl.....ne:default

    Girardi, however, lauded third baseman Kevin Youkilis for helping everybody forget that Alex Rodriguez is still on the team.

    • Havok9120

      Not bad. I laughed.

    • Dalek Jeter

      HA! nice!

    • forensic

      heh, nice. On a similar note, is it sad that I’ve actually been thinking about how nice it’s been to have a shortstop who can actually get to grounders more than a foot away from him?

      • Dalek Jeter

        I love Derek, he’s really the only thing left connecting these teams to the Yankee teams of my childhood, and he was one of my favorite players for quite a while…but there have been a few plays that Nunez has ranged to make and make look routine that I know are a single through the “5.5 hole.”

        • forensic

          You mean the ‘pastadivingjeter hole’?

          • Dalek Jeter

            That’s the one.

          • Dalek Jeter

            I’ve actually said more than once to myself, and even once or twice on here “that’s a pastadivingjeter single”

    • Dalek Jeter

      I really wish it was longer.

    • vicki

      pretty cute.

      do y’all read the captain’s log on grantland?

      http://www.grantland.com/blog/.....of-pottery

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        Loved this line:

        The next time Pronk pinch-hits a huge homer, I’ll be there at home plate to give him a fist bump, to high-five Mo after the save, to let Nuney chamois my bats in the clubhouse while we talk to the media.

        • jjyank

          That one is good. So is this:

          “I only just noticed that I continue to date these entries with the team’s location, not mine. Maybe it’s because I remain with them in spirit. You never leave your teammates. You win and not-win with them. You live and you die with them. You call them, you text them, you FaceTime them while Girardi and the bullpen catcher hold down Joba and shave off his stupid mustache. You’re there even when you’re not.”

          • vicki

            i like his suspicion of youk, who he says looks like a drunk baby in pinstriped pajamas.

            i definitely recommend you go back and read the earlier series too. starting last post-season.

  • forensic

    Terrible swing Wells. Come on man, you’ve been terrific against lefties and this team. Put it together in this AB!

  • The Real Greg

    Kay just FALLACY’d himself

  • Havok9120

    Same pitch, same location, 2-1.

  • JonS

    #Fire Kevin Long

    Wait, are we still too early for that? lol

    • jjyank

      Fire him for what, exactly?

  • Tom

    25 pitch inning…. if they keep grinding out AB’s Happ won’t be around very long and they will continue to wear out that bullpen.

  • Dalek Jeter

    If I were Joe I’d do:
    Gardner
    Youk
    Cano
    Wells
    Hafner
    Nunez
    Suzuki
    Nix
    Stewart

    • Pat D

      Really, in that order? That’s gonna take some time. What if they’re not willing?

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        Well played.

        • Pat D

          I’m not even allowed in Mexico.

      • vicki

        oh, you.

  • forensic

    The last thing I want to see again today is ‘one flap up’. That kind of shit really pisses me off.

  • Havok9120

    Good Lord. Paulie.

  • forensic

    Wow, the ball may not be traveling much because I thought that was long gone.

    • Havok9120

      Me too. Camera work didn’t help.

  • forensic

    Can’t believe Girardi started Hafner against a lefty. He’s terrible!!!

    :-)

  • Rubano

    Don’t comment on here too often, but I know that some people on here aren’t too high on Paulie in the booth, but I think he’s done a really nice job the past 2 games.

    • CountryClub

      I love him. He reminds me of Scooter in a way. Brings some fun to the broadcast.

      • Havok9120

        I loved him and Kay doing 20 minutes on stick ball last night. Funny stuff.

    • Eddard

      I like Paulie. He’s the most entertaining analyst. He usually doesn’t offer much in analysis. Wish he’d talk more about hitting like he did with Nuney’s stance.

    • vicki

      philistines. paulie’s the cat’s nipples.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      O’Neill’s OK but I wish Leiter was up there more often, and Kay not at all.

    • forensic

      He’s ok for his comedic interludes, but I don’t get much analysis from him.

      Much rather a three man booth if he’s there with ideally Kay and Leiter.

  • forensic

    All these lefty pitchers are also slowing down the basestealers. Ichiro has to try to and get to second so he can score if Stewart flukes a grounders through the hole.

    • forensic

      Or not.

    • Tom

      I want no part of Ichiro stealing with 2 out – you have to clear the pitcher’s spot in the lineup :-)

      • forensic

        That’s the only downside, and it was supposed to be included in there, but I’d still take the chance.

  • Dalek Jeter

    That was the worst call of a diving catch ever, John

    “Hit…um…diving stop at short.” No excitement, nothing…

    • SDB

      He’ll be a lot more excited when he can sing again.

      (Ears still burning from listening to that last night.)

      • Dalek Jeter

        When he was singing Sinatra? I wanted to stab my eardrums out.

        • SDB

          Was that Sinatra? I couldn’t tell. I was just ready to look up what the Geneva Convention defined as cruel and inhuman punishment.

    • trr

      Sterling is getting worse as he gets older
      I never listen to him

  • nsalem

    Happ 44 pitches
    CC 24 pitches
    we’re winning

    • Havok9120

      We shall win it in a Seven Years War style war of attrition.

      • nsalem

        attrition is the mission. I think both bullpens were used in the last two nights so I think there is a good chance this game will be won with offense inning 7-9

      • Pat D

        Were the Prussians involved in that?

        • Dalek Jeter

          No, that was one of the 90055001 times The British Empire and France went to war.

          • Pat D

            That much I knew. But sometimes there are the ancillary combatants.

            As Lewis Black might say, “Ancillary. A word I’ve never fucking used!”

          • Havok9120

            Look below.

            90% of the war took place in Central Europe. It’s also known as the Third Silesian War.

        • Havok9120

          Yeah. It was basically a world war. Prussia was the main land combatant on the British side. Which meant they were fighting Russia, Austria, France, and Sweden all at once. Not the best diplomatic move Frederick the Great ever came up with.

          There’s a great quote by William Pitt: “America was won in Germany,” in reference to the Prussians doing their thing.

          • Pat D

            American Independence was won by the French and the Prussians. For the French, the result was the French Revolution. Which was won by Napoleon.

            • Havok9120

              All the cringes.

              Prussia was neutral, though there were German auxiliaries involved…fighting for the Brits. They were mostly Hessians though.

              As for your Napoleon thing…no. Just no. You’re gonna make me cry.

            • Havok9120

              But I’d assumed you’re referencing the crazy drillmaster that Washington loved. I always preferred Polaski. Dude was a nut.

              • Pat D

                I was being mostly joking. Yea, I was referring to Von Steuben, I believe it was?

                The Napoleon thing? Eh, my memory is most assuredly off, but it just always seems that the French Revolution started with a king and ended with an emperor, so they didn’t really achieve much.

                But that’s because I think the French were batshit crazy.

                • Havok9120

                  Yeah, von Steuben.

                  The French also sucked at being revolutionaries. They tend to lose horrible or completely screw it up if they succeed. You’re “end with an Emperor” thing is spot on. Takes him awhile to get there though and then he promptly dismantles most of the “revolutionary” aspects of his government. And then, of course, his government collapsed. Oops.

                  Louis Napoleon is fun though. Re-founds the empire based on the premise that he’s related to Napoleon and then runs it into the ground.

                  • Pat D

                    He committed one of the classic blunders.

                    Though I guess technically he never reached the Asian portion of Russia.

                    • Havok9120

                      Not quite, no. But invading Russia is, of itself, a pretty classic blunder. You’d think the Swedes’ experience in fighting the Russians would have convinced him there wasn’t much to be gained.

                    • Pat D

                      Classic case of American bias: We’ve adopted the 1812 Overture for our own and play it at big July 4th events, just because it has “1812″ in it.

                      I’ll bet most Americans have no idea why it was written.

                    • Havok9120

                      It’s been amusing when, during my American Foreign Policy lecture last semester, I brought up that mayyyyybe the Napoleonic Wars (hate that term) ending had something to do with the Brits being happy to just call it a day during the War of 1812.

                      Bringing up a topic outside the professor’s area of expertise and tying it into a class discussion is the best way I’ve ever found to flummox a teacher.

                    • Pat D

                      Jeez, considering their relative concurrence, you’d at least think they have a passing knowledge.

                    • Havok9120

                      I’ve had this discussion with a lot of professors, but it’s pretty clear that most professors, especially active researchers like all of mine, tend to get sucked so deep into their specialty that they don’t pick up much from outside it. It’s a real shame.

  • oldmanalex

    top of the third and michael kay already talking about no hitters

  • Magilla Gorilla

    If you are listening to the game through your computer, give yourself a treat and listen to the best radio team doing MLB on SN590. Jerry Howarth and Jack Morris.

    Howarth is very much in the tradition of Vin Scully. Howarth toils in Toronto, so he is largely unknown.

    The great pitcher, Jack Morris, who we remember from his Tigers and Twins and Blue Jays days, does great color.

  • Havok9120

    Darn it.

  • oldmanalex

    I’ve seen derek make that play in his sleep

  • forensic

    Not a big fan of playing the IF back there with Davis up and a lefty on the mound for them.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      I was just thinking the same thing.

  • Wheels

    I hope Youk didn’t tweak his back there.

    • Pat D

      Indeed.

  • oldmanalex

    For every pastadivingjeter, there is a inandoutofnunez’glove

    • Yankee Fan 1

      Yup this. It’s a definite trade-off. Also pretty sure Jeter never hit .170. I’m rooting for Nunez, but he really needs to pick it up with the bat

  • forensic

    After those hits I was thinking that it always seems like it’s the bottom of the order doing damage against CC, like he’s letting up at those points or something.

    The splits sort of bear it out too:
    6th: .385/.467/.692
    7th: .308/.400/.308
    9th: .429/.467/.643

    The 8th spot had been shut out till Izturis there.

    With that double, the 6th and 9th spots now have the highest OPS against CC of any lineup spots, followed by the 2nd spot and then the 7th spot.

    He needs to figure that out, because the big boys in the middle can really do damage to you very often and putting the bad hitters on in front of them is horrible.

    • Pat D

      Small sample size, no?

      • forensic

        Of course, but I’m just talking about the start of the year. They’re all around 15-20 PA. Yeah, things can change, but it’s held so far through his starts.

      • Rolling Doughnut

        Just thinking the same thing. What were the splits last year?

      • forensic

        And if you’re curious, last year the 6th spot was his second highest OPS against, with the 8th and 9th spots his 4th and 5th highest against.

        In 2011, the 9th spot was the second highest OPS against and the 6th spot was his third highest OPS against.

        So it’s somewhat consistent.

  • Pat D

    Scurvy fuck.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    .260 .326 .494 .819
    .152 .202 .165 .367
    .304 .337 .380 .717
    .263 .317 .395 .712

    Lat year 6, 7, 8, 9

    No correlation?

  • Wheels

    Fuckin Blue Jays.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Defensive catcher.

  • forensic

    Geez Stewart, catch the damn ball!!!

  • Pat D

    Dammit, I had something important to say and now I can’t remember what it was.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Fuck Chris Stewart.

  • Eddard

    God Stewart is bad. Great throw by Ichiro.

    • Wheels

      Awesome throw.

  • SDB

    I miss Cervelli already.

  • Pat D

    Cervelli would have made both those plays!!!!!!

  • Leg-End

    Romine makes that play….amiright?

  • forensic

    Fuck you Stewart! Get off this damn team!

    You have one fucking job on this roster, and that’s to catch the damn ball, and you constantly fail at it.

    • Havok9120

      Whoa.

      • Dalek Jeter

        I agree with forensic, I’m just not nearly as angry about it.

      • forensic

        heh, two straight combined with another passed ball yesterday and I had to let it out. :-)

        • Havok9120

          Indeed. Whatever helps your blood pressure. lol

          • Pat D

            Pills.

  • oldmanalex

    Is it concerning that CC can’t get anyone out anymore…

    • Joe F

      That’s overdoing it.

      • jjyank

        Ya think?

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Prety lame. But CC is not helping himself. No command of the off-speed. Again.

  • forensic

    Meanwhile, with or without Stewart’s suckiness, this if FAR from CC stepping up to pitch well like they needed him to.

    And this against the only lineup in the AL that may actually be worse against lefties than the Yankees. Absolutely pitiful.

  • Eddard

    Girardi should remove the entire battery. Put in Warren and Romine. Surely they can’t do much worse.

  • Pasta

    DEFENSIVE CATCHER MY ASS
    PUT ROMINE IN.
    CC throwing batting practice

  • Rolling Doughnut

    This year it’s taking CC quite a long time to morph into CC. I wonder if there is a health issue. Or maybe as Mike has opined:Alternatively, he could just be pitching poorly)

  • forensic

    By the way, Chris Stewart is now second in the league among all non-knuckleball catchers in passed balls, despite playing many fewer games than the others.

    Yeah, it’s just the two passed balls, but still it’s terrible. Cervelli had 0 passed balls in all his games.

  • Wheels

    Welp, guess we’re just gonna make an another comeback.

  • Pasta

    Stewart leads the league in past balls and suckyness.

    • Pat D

      How is suckyness calculated?

      Not being a dick, I’d really like to create a formula for that.

  • Pasta

    You guys remember it was Happ that took out granderson in ST
    Yankees should be kicking his ass for that.

    • Pat D

      I’m still pissed that the Yankees have yet to intentionally throw at a Blue Jay in retaliation, frankly.

      • forensic

        So, it’s better that they give up a free baserunner and possibly get a pitcher ejected?

        I’ll never understand this stuff.

        • Pat D

          I didn’t say it was rational.

  • forensic

    Well, let’s see how they decide to not score this time…

  • Dalek Jeter

    He will be a Pronx Bomber momentarily.

  • nsalem

    I hope a big hit here will convince Girardi that BF should be gone

    • forensic

      I think you meant his BFF…

      • Sergio Mitre

        Don’t think I’ve been forgotten.

      • nsalem

        actually DFABF and it’s more like Cashman who needs to do that, Girardi can be BF’s BFF on FB as long as they are not in the same city. Anyway tie game.

  • Dalek Jeter

    HAFNER!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Eddard

    THAT’S WHY YOU PLAY HAFNER VS THE LEFTIES!!!!!!!!! TIE GAME!

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Can’t hit lefties.
    Should’ve played Francisco instead.

  • Havok9120

    GONE!

    GOOOOOOOOOONE!

  • forensic

    Damnit!!! Hafner can’t hit lefties.

    Where the hell is Francisco!?!?!?

    Get me a righty, I don’t care who it is!

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Welcome to the Pronx!

  • Wheels

    Love it

  • bobtaco

    Be Francisco would have done that, amirate?

  • Pat D

    Pronk!!!!

  • Pasta

    Davis trying to climb the fence lol that ball was middle pen lol

    • Pat D

      Give him credit for effort.

  • jjyank

    And this is why Hafner >>>>> Francisco, even against lefties :D

  • Dalek Jeter
    • ROBTEN

      Quick, what are the lottery numbers?

      • Dalek Jeter

        4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42

        In That exact order.

        • Pat D

          I’m detecting a pattern…

        • ROBTEN

          So, the outcome of this season is…everyone is going to heaven?

          • Dalek Jeter

            Kind of, sort of…but not exactly.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    See what good things happen Joe when you lose the binder?

  • http://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    I almost feel sorry for the Jays. Almost.

    • Pat D

      Considering the Granderson injury, I sure as fuck don’t.

  • Rubano

    Love that swing Nuney!

  • Pasta

    Bye bye francisco
    You know romine can dh too hes a right power guy.

    • forensic

      Did you really just call Romine a power hitter???

      • Pasta

        Compared to stewart :)

  • forensic

    Steal Nunez!

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Run Noonie Run

  • Pat D

    Can Nunez ever not lose his helmet?

  • Pasta

    Chris the blackhole stewart.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Does Happ have a really good move or something? I’m surprised Nunie hasn’t gone for second yet.

  • ROBTEN

    CC seems to be sitting around 90 with the FB (at least according to the YES gun). It seems to me that the Blue Jays’ hitters were getting out in front earlier in the game, perhaps expecting more velocity, but last inning, outside of Bautisa’s HR, had begun to wait back on the FB. With CC throwing more FB last inning, the Blue Jays were able to capitalize.

    Either CC will have to push the velocity on the FB up a bit next inning, or really work in the off-speed stuff to try to throw the hitters’ timing back off.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      Looks like he doesn’t have control of the offspeed stuff–he is leaving them up–so he’s relying on the FB more.

      • ROBTEN

        2 off-speed pitches: 2 strikes
        90 mph fb: single (though not hit hard, but still)

      • ROBTEN

        I agree, it’s just going to mean that today’s going to be more difficult.

  • oldmanalex

    in no particular order gardner/jeter/wells/youk/robbie/teixeira/arod/hafner/ ichiro … I think it’s gonna be a pretty good summer.

    • oldmanalex

      fuck i forgot Grandy

  • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

    And that should be the end of Benny F.

    Don’t play Pronk against lefties they said, trust a random righty they said…

    • jjyank

      Hafner still can’t play every day though. Not if you want to try to keep him healthy all year. I do want an upgrade over Francisco, but Hafner getting injured and worn out won’t help matters either.

      • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

        I can’t argue with you there, we need him healthy. I just don’t think that needs to mean he sits against every single LHP.

        And there’s still a part of me that thinks “how the hell is he going to get hurt just batting and not playing the field” but I’ll know he’ll find a way (or the Blue Jays will find a way to injure him)

  • Winter

    How awesome would a double steal be here? Not saying they’ll do it, but it’d be awesome.

  • Wheels

    This has been a fun season to watch thus far.

  • forensic

    Damn, and that’s why you gotta try to steal.

    Happ doesn’t even appear to be that quick to the plate and Arencibia is not throwing anyone out. No idea why they’re not running on him, it’s very aggravating.

  • nsalem

    82-56 CC the lead is extending.

    • forensic

      Unfortunately, 3-3 is all that really matters. And they have several good relievers out there to come in after Happ.

      • nsalem

        disagree I think it matters

      • nsalem

        and if they get Happ out after 5 it bodes well for tomorrow,

  • forensic

    Damn, that’s not how to start an inning. CC’s gotta catch or stop that ball. It’s right to him.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    All the offspeed suff is UP. Fuck

  • Pasta

    Stewart catching is like watching beer league softball

  • forensic

    Good to see Rothschild finally on the phone. This could get ugly in a hurry.

  • Pasta

    Get warren up

  • JRod

    Bautista is so due to be knocked on his ass. Too bad they’ve got baserunners.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Tired of this CC get your shit together.

  • oldmanalex

    I’m tired of hearing, “didn’t have his great stuff today but he battled”

  • Dalek Jeter

    CC, you need to be better than this.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    CC throws a cookie to Baustista. He is not right this year.

  • Pasta

    Toronto juicers

  • Dalek Jeter

    Bautista has Adam Dunn type numbers…hitting below .200 but already 7 homers.

    • nsalem

      The way he is striding into the ball it looks like he would be off balance only if he walks into the pitch he is looking for

  • forensic

    92!!!

    Really bumping it up there now…

    • Dalek Jeter

      92.1!!!

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Thank you.

  • http://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    John Gibbons looks like a miserable prick.

    • Wheels

      He does, ha.

  • forensic

    Stewart channeling his inner Cervelli with a fist pump.

    If only he would channel his inner Cervelli by catching pitches, catching throws, and hitting…

    • jjyank

      I wonder what your reaction would be if you traveled back in time 2 months and said that to your past self :P

      • forensic

        I would’ve said the same thing.

        I’ve been high on Cervelli all offseason and there was a clear improvement in his defense throughout ST, which I understand is in those 2 months.

        Stewart has always sucked at everything.

        • jjyank

          Fair enough. Though Cervelli wasn’t exactly a gold glover 2 months ago, and we had no reason to think he’d have that kind of power.

          Don’t get me wrong, as ST went along, I became totally cool with Cervelli over Martin. I just find it kinda funny that we’d be asking anyone to channel their inner-Cervelli of all people. I love that he’s hit well enough to warrant such a comment, but it still seems funny to me.

  • Pasta

    Maybe we see nuno today

  • Rolling Doughnut

    CC cleans up his mess. OK

  • Tom

    CC’s got to pitch inside more… you can still work inside when throwing 90-91mph.

    These Toronto righties are dead pull hitters (esp Bautista and Encarnacion) and will pull the pitch on the outside corner because they are so close to the plate.

    • JRod

      Absolutely, they’re way too comfortable up there.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I agree to an extent, because if you miss over the middle by like half an inch it’s like right down the middle for them.

  • Pasta

    Youlklis still a bitcher just go to the dugout kev. Your a Yankee now show some class.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Brett Fuckin Lawrie? Really CC? that Scurvy Fuck?

  • Pat D

    Really starting to dislike Lawrie.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Starting? He is far and away my least favorite Blue Jay.

      • jjyank

        That scurvy fuck.

    • SDB

      Starting? I hate his guts almost as much as I hate the sheer existence of Papelbon and Vicente Padilla.

  • Pasta

    Juicy hit

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Everything’s up, poor control and topping out at 91.Joe postgame: CC found a way to battle through it. Kinda sick of this shit now.

  • yankeesfan1986

    Why is CC still in the game? Was 2 awful innings not enough, Joe?

  • forensic

    And an 8 pitch inning for Happ followed by a leadoff homer against Sabathia and suddenly he’s behind in the score and just a couple pitches ahead of Happ.

    That’s why it’s not always that big a deal, because it changes in a hurry, especially the way this offense usually goes against lefties and how CC is looking today.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      They should have and could have made Happ work more in their half. Basically gave him a freebie.

  • Pasta

    Its not emotion Paul
    Its roid rage.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Reasons I want to be a professional baseball player:
    1. Ridiculous sums of money for even the lowest paid guys for playing a kids game.

    2. Get to travel the country, and parts of Canada, in first class.

    3. You can grow ridiculous beards/mustaches.

  • jjyank

    On a lighter note…anyone ever have a cucumber hibiscus ale? I’m enjoying a Magic Hicu, and I’m pleasantly surprised. A pretty refreshing summer beer.

    Cheers everyone.

    • jjyank

      Magic *Hat* Hicu

    • Pasta

      Cucumber hibiscus ale?
      Man card infraction too much fruit in your beer. Limes only and it has to be corona

      • Dalek Jeter

        Hell no, a beer soaked orange is the perfect way to finish a Blue Moon.

        • jjyank

          And yes. I had a Blue Moon and an orange with my lunch today. Delicious. Real men aren’t afraid of enhancing their beer experience.

        • Pasta

          A guiness stout and a bratwurst in it. Thats a beer

          • jjyank

            Sure. That’s ONE beer. There are plenty more.

          • Pasta

            Or shot of bourbon in it.

            • Dalek Jeter

              You savage, the only Whiskey you put in Guinness is Irish.

              • jjyank

                Agreed. Pasta seems like a very confused individual.

              • Pasta

                Jamison or glenlivit?
                American beer tasted like water
                Spend some time in germany go to a local pub have a real beer at room temp
                Stronger than stout.

                • Dalek Jeter

                  Jamison. Glenlivet is a scotch. Savage.

                  Sorry, but Glenlivet 12 is my drink.

                  • Pasta

                    Not much for the taste of scotch more of a snapps fan myself. Too many years in germany.

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      …you mean schnapps?

                    • jjyank

                      Apparently they don’t teach proper spelling in Germany.

                • jjyank

                  Don’t be a beer snob. I posted about a beer that I liked. It’s an American beer. That doesn’t mean you can pull the “if it’s not German beer at room temperature…” card. Nobody likes a beer/wine/liquor snob.

                  • Dalek Jeter

                    But…if there’s one thing I can be snobbish about it’s scotch/whiskey in general. Mostly scotch and Irish stuff though.

                  • Pasta

                    Try a real german beer youll be surprised how much better it is.

                    • jjyank

                      Then go talk about it in your own thread.

                    • vicki

                      dude be trollin’. else surely he’d have spelled one of guinness, glenlivet or jameson correctly.

          • Dalek Jeter

            Guinness* is only good if it’s from a tap, in which case it’s a top 5 beer for me. Otherwise it’s..really not that great.

      • jjyank

        Beer is beer man, and it’s fucking good. I call man card infraction on you knocking a beer before trying it.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Not all beer is beer. Budwiser, Bud Light, Bud Light with Lime, Coors, Coors Light, Miller Genuine Draft, Miller Light, I could go on, but I won’t because talking about so much water is making me thirsty.

          • jjyank

            Hah, touche. But I’m talking about Magic Hat, and that is beer.

            • Dalek Jeter

              I’ve only had Magic Hat #9, but yeah, it is delicious.

              • jjyank

                #9 is great. If you see a six pack of Circus Boy sometime, pick that up. It’s a pretty popular brew and a lot of liquor stores have it in Jersey. Very good.

                I have a summer variety 12 pack. A mix of #9, Hicu, Elder Betty, and Blind Faith. All very good.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Freaking Magic Hat. It’s delicious.

  • Pasta

    Ichiro gets hot have to move him up to leadoff.

    • forensic

      He already is pretty hot, really started coming on in Tampa. Completely agree he should be in the 2nd spot right now.

      • forensic

        Oops, you said leadoff. I would leave Gardner there and put Ichiro 2nd.

  • forensic

    Guess the pitchers are working on their bunting already…

  • Pasta

    Girardi should fine the next catcher that does not put his non glove hand behind him.

  • Dalek Jeter

    John and Suzyn are talking about when they were 29…back when there was steam powered everything and the radio was a new thing…

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Seemed like Ichiro could’ve gotten there.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Lovin’ the deflated version of the Melk man

  • forensic

    CC has owned Bautista through their careers, but Bautista has already homered today and CC doesn’t have much working for him, and just barely got away with a pitch last AB.

    Not a huge fan of leaving him in there. But it’s close.

    • forensic

      And he was inches away from regretting it.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      It was close…very close.

  • forensic

    Kay can’t wear sunglasses to drive???

    Out here you can’t drive without sunglasses.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Got lucky. He executed that pitch horribly.

  • Havok9120

    You’re fine Brett. Totally fine. DON’T ACT OTHERWISE.

    Be strong for Prussia.

  • bobtaco

    Who has Gardner in the pool as the next to drop?

    • Pasta

      They would have to bring up mesa if gardner went down

  • Eddard

    CC might have injured Gardner. I’m sick of this well he kept us in the ballgame. That’s what you say about a 5th starter. CC got lucky he only gave up 4 today.

  • Pasta

    Thats a concrete wall out there in center under those pads

  • forensic

    I hate that quick pitch crap. You should be required to come set even when there aren’t guys are base.

    It’s asinine that there are different rules which only give the pitcher an advantage. It’s not like there’s anything that gives the hitter a similar advantage like that.

  • Havok9120

    Alright Vern. Time to bust a move FOR PRUSSIA.

    • Tom

      Ask and ye shall receive….

      We will win this for Mother Prussia! /Robin Williams’d

  • The Real Greg

    There we go.

  • forensic

    Hallelujah!!! A hit with RISP!

  • bobtaco

    You gotta love Wells’ approach

  • Eddard

    This is why this lineup is still dangerous. And they still have to get through Hafner.

  • vicki

    if there’s a heaven, and i go, it’ll be vernon wells hitting against the blue jays.

  • Havok9120

    Muhahahaha

    Yes!

    • Vern Sneaker

      All your Prussia posts led me to Wiki it, since my education was heavily Englush,, Amer. Hist, and law. Interesting stuff, but then Hitler took over after all those centuries.

      • Havok9120

        Yeah. The Prussian government (it still existed after unification as a local gov’t) did everything they could to try and arrest Hitler. He was persona non grata throughout Prussia, and thus most northern German population centers, for most of the late 20s.

        He didn’t exactly take kindly to that once he gained power despite their efforts. You can imagine the repercussions.

  • forensic

    Kind of glad they’re leaving the righty in there for Youk since he’s shown no signs of hitting them so far this season but he’s killed righties.

    Hopefully it works out for us.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Wells does well!

  • The Real Greg

    Blue Jays go to Cecil

    • forensic

      Of course. He’s been pretty terrific this year.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    You better be safe.

  • Dalek Jeter

    PRONK!!!!

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Should’ve PH.

  • SDB

    I love Travis Hafner. That is all.

  • forensic

    Yeah Haf!!!

    Thanks Davis!

    Anyone else and that’s an inside-the-parker, but the triple is cool anyway.

  • Cy Pettitte

    me Pronk, me SMASH

  • Winter

    PRONK!

  • vicki

    say it, joe. say you were wrong.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      This

    • forensic

      Good luck with that.

      He’ll never admit something like that and the next lefty they face (Wednesday), I’d be shocked if Francisco wasn’t in there again.

  • Eddard

    Travis Hafner against a lefty is miles better than Ben Francisco against anybody.

  • Tom

    Not clear why they were pitching to Pronk… but thank you Mr Gibbons!

    Hopefully this buys some AB’s for Pronk against lefties…he’s obviously not going to hit this well, but he’s still a better option than Francisco.

    • forensic

      In fairness, Cecil has been terrific and Hafner was 0-11 with 5 K’s against him.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      Gibbons has a binder too?

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Please don’t leave CC in.

    • forensic

      Completely agree with you. Do not agree with leaving him out there.

      • forensic

        Very glad we were wrong this time. At least he gave them pretty good length, even though it wasn’t great quality and a little frustrating.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Please don’t listen to my advice.

  • The Real Greg

    Robertson will have to close today. They’re not pitching Mo 3 days in a row.

    • Leg-End

      That’s why I suspect CC will be in for the 8th.

    • CUYanks

      Also, Mo threw 26 pitches last night. Still, Robertson and Joba also pitched the last 2 days, so who knows what Joe will do. I think this will be a good test case to see how Girardi will manage his bullpen this year.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Obviously gotta go to Kelly. No way these guys can pitch 3 consecutive days!

        • The Real Greg

          Not when your 40 years old.

          • Dalek Jeter

            I was talking about the decades-younger Jobber and D-Rob, btw Hi Greg!

    • JRod

      Would like to see Joba. I think he threw only 7 pitches last night.

  • jjyank

    I love CC, but he better have the shortest of short leashes here. The one baserunner variety.

  • BigBlueAL

    Maybe Joba closes since both DRob and Mo have pitched 2 days in a row??

    • BigBlueAL

      Crap Joba has pitched last 2 days as well. Screw it CC for the complete game lol.

    • CUYanks

      Joba has too, I believe.

    • Tom

      Joba’s also pitched the last 2 days.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      So has Joba (although with fewer pitches)

  • Tom

    4 out save for Robertson? Lawrie scares me.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Dodged a bullet. Two hard hit balls. The BB gods are with us today.

  • Cy Pettitte

    CC 8IP and in line for the W, wasn’t expecting that a few innings ago.

    • Havok9120

      No kidding. That’s why I don’t get the anger toward “Worked hard without his best stuff and gave us distance and a chance.” I mean, sheesh. Sure I’d prefer domination, but this is quite something too.

      • jjyank

        Someone from that crowd quipped something along the lines of “that’s what I expect from a #5 starter, not CC”. Yeah, it was dominance, but a #5 starter doesn’t get you 8 innings and a lead without his best stuff. No way around it.

        • jjyank

          *wasn’t dominance

  • Dalek Jeter

    I think CC might be coming out for the 9th, just a gut feeling.

    • The Real Greg

      I have that sense too.

      Robertson, Joba, and Mo have each pitched two days in a row.

  • SDB

    I didn’t want CC in there either, but shit, 3 outs on 7 pitches? I never saw that coming.

    Wouldn’t be shocked if he tries to pitch through the ninth, and right now, I won’t complain.

    (But please, can there be an insurance run added in the bottom of the 8th?)

  • nsalem

    Let CC finish himself. Best Option

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Jobber or (formerly) Houdini for the 9th?

  • CUYanks

    112 pitches. I wouldn’t put it past Joe to at least start the 9th with CC. He’s a slave to his bullpen rules.

  • Eddard

    CC wasn’t good today but he gave us 8 and ended his day with the lead. Maybe he’ll come back out for the 9th and they’ll go batter to batter.

  • Tom

    Clearly this has Nuno written all over it!

    (could you imagine that though?)

    • Winter

      I dunno, do you really want someone making his Major League debut in the ninth inning of a one-run game?

      • Anthony

        Sounds like a job for Big Game Phelps.

        In all seriousness, I think they stick with CC. Bottom half of the order anyway, right?

    • Havok9120

      He’s apparently warming.

  • The Real Greg

    Joba is up and Nuno is stretching

  • Leg-End

    Joba for his first save since 2010 then.

  • Havok9120

    Alllllright Joba. Let’s get this done.

  • Pasta

    Joba needs a save on the old resume

  • Winter

    Let’s if see Joba can hit 98 today.

  • nsalem

    CC’s lowest lifetime OPS split against is after 100 picthes

    • Rolling Doughnut

      wow

    • Winter

      Probably because he’s more likely to hit 100 when he’s pitching well.

      • nsalem

        would have to do lots of research to validate that. I hope we win but I would rather have stuck with CC.

  • Anthony

    Ooh, Joba it is then.

  • forensic

    Somewhat interesting that it’s Joba over Robertson.

    Wonder if there will be some mixing and matching going on depending on who ends up hitting.

    • Havok9120

      DRob’s probably “break glass only in emergency” available in Joe’s mind.

    • nsalem

      I think Joba had a 7 pitch inning last night and that might have influenced the decision

  • Now Batting

    Time to put that closer mentality bullshit to the test

  • bobtaco

    Already warming up Warren for the inevitable tie game….

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      you were saying….

  • forensic

    Geez Joba, not the easiest way to go about it, but the result is fine.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Ballsy 3-2 pitch nice

    • Havok9120

      Yeah. That was something. I like the aggressiveness.

  • Vern Sneaker

    Joba’s got me maximally nervous.

    • Havok9120

      The dubious joys of the non-Mo closer.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      And well he should

  • Winter
  • Anthony

    WOW, nice play by Nix

  • Havok9120

    Still a nice play to get to that.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Couldn’t just be an easy 1-2-3, Jobber?

  • forensic

    This is not going well…

    And I have to get to work.

    Come on Joba!!!

  • Now Batting

    Ugh god job fielding it, good throw may have gotten him though.

  • SDB

    shudder… so this is what it’ll be like next year after Mo.

    • CUYanks

      Any free agent closers available after this year?

      • Havok9120

        Grant Balfour, I believe.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Gimme Robertson everyday.

          • CUYanks

            Love Robertson pitching high leverage innings, but keeping him in a fireman role in the eighth would also be awesome.

      • Tom

        Rodney, Madson, Hanrahan, Marmol (the last two I wouldn’t touch)

        And while not a closer, Chad Qualls will be a FA!

  • Havok9120

    Dang. 97. Breathe, Joba.

  • forensic

    Ok, one more!

  • jjyank

    One more, Jobbers. You got this.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Milk is off the juice Joba put him away!

  • Eddard

    Just throw the high heat right past him, Joba.

  • Pasta

    Come on jobs

  • Dalek Jeter

    Ball game.

  • JRod

    Joba gets it done. Sweet.

  • Vern Sneaker

    Don’t know what the rest of the year holds, but so far this team is FUN!

  • Tom

    Jobber!

  • Havok9120

    Sweetness.

    Very, very, very nice win.

  • jjyank

    Aaaaaand exhale. Whew.

    Great win. Fuck the Blue Jays.

  • forensic

    Yes!!!

    Great win, though it had its frustrating parts, still great!

    Awesome taking the first three of the series!!!

  • Rolling Doughnut

    !!!!!

  • CUYanks

    Win number 195 for the big man. He’ll be soon approaching 200, at a much younger age than basically all of the recent 200-win guys.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Jobs did it for Prussia. We all did it for Prussia

    • Havok9120

      Well said.

  • Eddard

    If Girardi had stuck to his guns and played Ben Francisco we wouldn’t have won this ballgame. And don’t give me Kay’s fallacy argument, Francisco wasn’t doing shit today, certainly not driving in 4 runs.

  • Larry B.

    Why didn’t Mariano pitch 9th?

    • forensic

      Pitched two straight days. He’s apparently too fragile to pitch 3 straight days.

      • forensic

        And no, that’s not a knock against Mo, because I’m sure he would pitch. It’s just a continuation of the overdone cautiousness of the organization and specifically Girardi.