Apr
06

Game Five: Hughes Returns

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In what can be considered both an act of desperation and necessity, Phil Hughes has been activated off the DL and will start this afternoon against the Tigers. He was originally supposed to make one final tune-up start with Triple-A Scranton today before rejoining the rotation next week, but an overworked bullpen — 13 innings in the last three games despite Andy Pettitte‘s eight-inning start on Thursday — necessitated the addition of an extra arm. David Phelps shifts into a long-man role.

Hughes made zero Grapefruit League starts due to his bulging disk, though he did made a handful of minor league starts late in camp. By keeping him out of regular Spring Training games, the team was able to backdate his DL stint, which is why he can be activated off the 15-day DL six days into the season. These Major League rehab starts, so to speak, always make me nervous because who knows how ready the pitcher actually is. We haven’t seen Phil on a mound since Game Three of the ALCS against these same Tigers, so we’re sorta going in blind. Here’s the lineup…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. 2B Robinson Cano
  3. 3B Kevin Youkilis
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. LF Vernon Wells
  6. RF Brennan Boesch
  7. C Frankie Cervelli
  8. 1B Lyle Overbay
  9. SS Jayson Nix

And on the mound is the impending free agent, St. Philip of Hughes.

This afternoon’s game is scheduled to start at 4:05pm ET and can be seen on FOX. Try to enjoy.

Roster Move: Cody Eppley was optioned to Triple-A Scranton to make room for Hughes. I figured they would send Shawn Kelley down considering he threw 43 pitches yesterday and will probably be unavailable until Sunday at the earliest, but I guess not.

Eduardo Nunez Update: Nunez is still in “a lot” pain after taking a pitch to the right biceps yesterday, but he does feel much better. He’ll try to hit in the cage today and if that goes well, he might be available to pinch-hit and pinch-run.

Derek Jeter Update: The Cap’n took about 40 ground balls hit directly at him on the field in Tampa today. He also hit off a tee and played catch, his first time doing any real baseball activity since having his setback about two weeks ago.

Categories : Game Threads
  • LK

    Interesting to me that they’d bench Ichiro against a RHP this early in the season.

    • trr

      Only a 4 game sample, but he’s been awful so far…
      he gave us a good couple of months last year, but I think the end is near. Lucky us to get to watch it for the next 2 years

      • Preston

        As bad as Ichiro has been, Wells has been a pleasant surprise so far. Hopefully one can be a useful starter, and one can be a useful 4th OFer next year.

        • LK

          At the very least those 2 should be a fine platoon once Grandy comes back. My worry is that the Yanks are looking at them as 2/3 of the 2014 OF.

        • DInnings

          What a stupid play by the thirdbase coach. Hello? Shallow or medium-shallow flyball, Torii Hunter, gun arm. Boesch was out by a mile.

          No way Ichiro will be a fourth outfielder without him demanding a trade because it greatly slows down his chase for 3000 hits. Do you see him getting enough playing time 2015 on if he even gets a contract to collect the hits he needs for 3000? I don’t. Re-signing Ichiro was sheer stupidity and profit-driven. Let’s bring back Ichiro for the Japanese audience.

          • trr

            He seems to be hacking at everthing, rarely walking.
            Hate to say it, but he seems to want to swing at everything in an attempt to get to 3,000 hits.
            Ichiro first, Team second…

      • LK

        It’s actually more like a 2 year sample where he’s been awful. I’m not complaining about it at all, I’ve been a pretty vocal anti-Ichiro guy. I just find it intriguing that they’re benching him in a game where he has the platoon advantage 4 games into a 2 year contract.

        • Preston

          He’s old and needs days off. For his career he has a reverse platoon split, although his split was noticeable last year. It might just be SSS. Anyways, Wells has earned the right to play everyday so far and Boesch is also a lefty who got a hit yesterday and is playing his old team, so give him a chance and see if you can get a boost out of his desire for revenge.

        • jjyank

          Agreed. The Ichiro deal is the one thing that really bugged me about the moves made this winter, and I thought the team has made it pretty clear they view Ichiro as a full-time player. Also, not complaining. I hope this is a signal that Girardi will be flexible with playing time if Ichiro isn’t performing.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    He had a good April start in Comerica last year if memory serves.

  • Crespo

    Yes!!No Ichiro finally!

  • Govin

    Im glad in a scared type of way that Hughes is pitching today. If that makes any sense, which I doubt it does.

  • Eddard

    With no Nuney and the Tigers holding the pitching advantages the next two games we’ll likely get swept. Coming out with one win in this series would be a miracle.

    • Preston

      Nuney is of course the key to the offense. Especially against RHPs.

      • WhittakerWalt

        You want to get every guy with a .707 career OPS in the lineup.

        • jjyank

          You want to get every guy with a .707 career OPS who is pregnant with Eddard’s child in the lineup.

          Fixed.

      • MannyGeee

        In #EddardWorld Nunie has the key to the city…

  • Mickey Scheister

    I’d be a pissed Asian if I went to nasty ass Detroit and my Asian superstar wasn’t playing.

  • Vern Sneaker

    Brennan Boesch! What a thrill!
    Oh, well,, here’s hoping . . .

  • McLovin

    Joe Buck and Tim McCarver, 18 years of leaving people death.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Adios Eppley. Anytime again is too soon.

    • Preston

      Watching Eppley pitch has always been a painful experience for me.

    • MannyGeee

      Yeah, no mas Eppley please.

  • Spectra

    What is the deal with the Fox blackout of mlb.tv. I’m out of market on the west coast so I bought mlb.tv for YES but now fox is showing the Giants game. Sucks.

    • jjyank

      Yeah, you’re closer to the Giants so Fox will show that game for you, but you’re still blacked out because of Fox. It sucks, but that’s the way it is.

    • forensic

      Get used to it. The only FOX games you should expect to get are Yankees-Red Sox. They typically block everything else out for us in favor of Giants, Angels, Dodgers, etc. games.

      • jjyank

        I don’t get why they do that. If the cable company is able to determine what market you’re in to show you a particular game, you’d think mlb.tv would know the same thing and let you watch Fox games that are out of your market.

  • jjyank

    Hey Plouffers, you bummed we didn’t make that trade yesterday? Werth went 3-5 with a homer today :P

    • Dalek Jeter

      You have no idea. My week’s batting line stands at .203/.288/.311 with Hamilton killing me, hitting .062/.211/.062

      • Dalek Jeter

        JOSH HAMILTON IS SLUGGING UNDER .100!!!

      • jjyank

        Eesh. That’s rough.

  • Mickey Scheister

    Nuno will be in the majors by ____________ .

    I say by June 1st as the Phelps role when David replaces Nova’s brutally ineffective self

    • Preston

      Probably never, since he’s not any good. He’s an old, soft tossing lefty, who’s going to get exposed by AAA hitting. We have much better options for relief roles like Warren, Marshall, Montgomery etc.

    • MannyGeee

      September call up… Burning some junk innings in the last month.

  • Short Porch

    Is Hughes in the Yanks’ long term plans so that he’s worth having when Mason Williams, Tyler Austin, Gary Snyder, and Slade Heathcotte come of age (though low level prospects guarantee nothing). Otherwise, retool. Will the Yanks ever have another core four? Maybe we do need another Mel Hall Era. I’m 54. I lived through the Horace Clarke era. I figure I got one good run left in me. So I say it’s been a great run — 1994 – 2012 — but now strip this to the studs and rebuild.

    Problem is, the last two Yankee dynasties required that all Steinbrenners were FAR away from any personnel decisions. You or I would have won more pennants and World Series, given the advantages this franchise had.

    I’m getting old, I have been here before, but don’t let some uber privileged ‘bosses’ waste my time. Money doesn’t make you smarter. I have seen it all, and Gabe Paul and Gene Michael were the real dynasty builders. Cashman can be overridden, as we have seen. Love the guy, but what do you do when your bosses are tag team born on third base idiots?

    Life’s short. This is painful bang your head against the wall painful to watch and utterly avoidable. Even before the PED revelations, the A-Rod contract was to any passive observer – sadly including Cashman — a massive miscalculation.

    • Kosmo

      You mean Gary Sanchez. Gary Synder is a poet among other things.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Fly Ball Pitcher + big OF = Brennan Boesch????

    • 1stbase

      not that it means much but boesch played a good game out there yesterday

  • Dalek Jeter

    Jayson Nix: PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PLAYER!!

    • mac

      In fairness, that was a tough play to make…for me, since I’m sitting on my ass 700 miles away from Tiger Stadium.

      Anyway, Nixie makes up for his glove with his stick.

      • Crespo

        “Anyway, Nixie makes up for his glove with his stick.”

        Wow. Yeah. Definately

  • jjyank

    …really Nix? I could have fielded that cleanly.

  • Preston

    Nix is in there for his defense…

  • SeventhAce

    When you’re pretty much a no bat, utility infield kinda guy… you can’t afford to FUCKING BOTCH THAT SHIT.

  • Mykey

    Thanks for the help Nix.

  • forensic

    Did that really go right through his legs like the radio announcers said???

    • jjyank

      Off his glove, but his glove was squarely between his legs. It was about as routine a grounder as you’ll ever see.

    • Mykey

      It was pretty much little league practice style.

      • forensic

        Heh, geez, good thing he’s here for his bat then…

  • Wheels

    yes

  • Athenian

    Hughes first start of the season. No offensive support, but he keeps it close…tigers 5-3, unfortunately.

    • forensic

      I see something further apart, like 8-1, 9-2.

      • Athenian

        I was being hopeful but I think you are right.

  • Darren

    Cojno, I thought that was gone

  • Chilango

    Nova and Hughes, true to form. Wish they’d figure it out.

  • MrPappageorgio

    Did Cano dive over that?

  • Dalek Jeter

    “He’s ahead on the count, 0-2.” I don’t think I heard that about Nova once yesterday.

  • MrPappageorgio

    Lots of 3 ball cconts

  • forensic

    Thank you Jim Leyland for putting Andy Dirks in front of Jhonny Peralta and his nearly .500 BA and 1.200 OPS against Hughes. Sure is a gift…

  • Eddard

    Nuney makes that play in his sleep. We’re already seeing the ill effects of his injury. And Nix won’t make it up with the bat either.

    • WhittakerWalt

      You’re too much. The next play Nuney makes “in his sleep” will be the first one.

  • forensic

    Atta boy Wells!

  • jjyank

    Wow. Fucking Vernon Wells, eh?

  • Dalek Jeter

    THE BRONX IS VERNON?!

    • jjyank

      And ringing some bells. Or some such shit.

    • vicki

      wait. that was sterling?

  • SeventhAce

    WELLS!!!!
    WOW, none of us would have thought it was possible.

    • MannyGeee

      Oh fuck yeah. I wish we didn’t have all these wash ups TATTOOING balls all over the park…

      • MannyGeee

        Reply fail… But it fits here too

  • DC

    Wells!!

  • MannyGeee

    Vernon.

    Mother

    Fucking

    Wells

    • Preston

      Despite the rest of the teams ineptitude Wells and Youk have already won me over.

  • Chilango

    Wells is partyin like its 2006

  • jjyank

    Wow. Fucking Brennan Boesch, eh?

    Heh.

  • JonS

    Wells is going to make people look stupid.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I hope I continue to be one of them.

    • MannyGeee

      COMPLETELY agree.

  • Dalek Jeter

    HAHAHA followed by a Boeschish triple!

  • McLovin

    Damn the wind :(

  • Joe

    I think the time has come to blow this team up. Trade nova , joba, Hughes, granderson , and try to get a haul for cano. Take it on the chin in 2014 , then go large in free agency for 2015. A mix of the kid prospects plus proven ml talent via free agency is the remedy for success.

    • jjyank

      No.

      • DInnings

        Yes, if the Yanks are under .500 or barely over it by July 1.

        They need to get something a little surer than draft picks.

        If Hughes has a 2013 like last year or 2010 or better he’s gone because no way they lock him up for bare minimum five years and $50M he will get since 33-34 year old Jeremy Guthrie got three years and $25M from the Royals of all teams.

        If Granderson has a 2013 like his 2011 or 2012 in shortened form i.e. he’d be on pace to have a 2011 or 2012 like season, he’s gone. He will want and most likely get bare minimum three years at $15M a year (his 2013 salary) for $45M total.

        If Cano is hitting .285-.300 with 10-12 HR and 40-45 RBI by July 1, it’s a safe bet he will have a nice but not $200M player worthy 2013, and he will be gone cuz he’s not taking less than six years and $150M.

        If Chamberlain is positng an ERA under 2 or certainly 1, he’s gone because no way the Yanks lock him up for three or four on just that from his past history.

        If Nova keeps stinking, I’d trade him as well.

        • Crespo

          No, I’m sorry you don’t trade one of the top 5 players in the game unless you’re the Marlins. Any plan that favors trading Robbie mid-season rather than re-signing him is just reckless.

    • Preston

      How many let’s blow the team up comments per game thread are we going to get? Just enjoy baseball. It’s the 5th freaking game of the year.

  • SeventhAce

    LIKE A BOESCH!!!!

    A triple, good enough!

  • Athenian

    The Bronx is Verin’? What the fuck? A dead Vin Scully would sound better than these tools.

    • Dalek Jeter

      The Yankees are doing well?! Quick! Find something else to bitch about!

      • SeventhAce

        QUICK!! TOO MANY HOMERUNS!!

      • Athenian

        Ok..”Well” now equals scoring one run to tie a game? C’mon son! That was to easy.

        And not cheering mediocrity is not bitching. Next you’ll say everyone should get a blue ribbon for participating.

  • Preston

    Vernon Wells hitting a home run against a really good RHP and Brennan Boesch getting a triple. I don’t know which one seemed less likey at the start of the season.

  • Eddard

    What a great pick up by Cashman. Vernon Wells is on a mission to prove everyone wrong. Now just put the ball in play and get that runner on 3rd home.

    • MannyGeee

      You’re an asshole. If I gave enough of a shit I am POSITIVE I could go back and find a post where you called the move idiotic. Don’t move the goalposts when convenient.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Good thing for you Wells isn’t a cancer.

  • Mykey

    Any one know the Sterling Vernon Wells call?

    • forensic

      The Bronx is Vernon.

      He also had something like Wells rings the Bell added for his first one.

      • Mykey

        Thanks.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)
      • Mykey

        Sweet, thanks man.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Damnit Robbie Thompson! WHY?!?!

  • Wheels

    Why did they send him??

  • SeventhAce

    I don’t think that was deep enough for a sac fly.

  • Wil Nieves #1 Fan

    Did that really just happen?

  • JonS

    Haha he fucked up Avila though.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Bad, bad decision on the first out.

    • jjyank

      Agreed. If there was 1 out and the sacrifice was not longer in play, I might go for it. With no outs? Hell no. That ball was hit too shallow.

      • SeventhAce

        Not to mention the fly ball wasn’t all that deep to run on… Plus it was hit to Torii Hunter.

  • forensic

    That’s terrible. You can’t get him thrown out with only one out. They don’t have the kind of leeway to make horrible baserunning decisions like that.

  • Eddard

    Way to run with 0 outs. Awful awful decision.

  • McLovin

    Welp that sucks

  • Chilango

    What is Boesch running for? too shallow, no outs. WTF. Terrible.

  • MrPappageorgio

    Wells rings the bells

    • MannyGeee

      Come on…. Really? That’s…. Well, par for the course I suppose

  • JonS

    Buck and McCarver just went on and on about why it was good to send the runner.

    • toad

      They didn’t even know how many outs there were.

  • jjyank

    I know, I know, fallacy and all of that. But shit, that should have been an RBI.

    • Mykey

      Particularly glaring when it was clearly a stupid decision at the time, too.

  • Dalek Jeter

    We’d be up 1 run if it wasn’t for that send. I’m guessing that’s on Thompson and not Boesch?

    • MannyGeee

      FALLACY!

      Min fairness, maybe you pitch to LoverBay different if you still have Boesch on 3rd? Conceivable at least?

      • Preston

        Even if you pitched differently, he might have been able to drive the run in. That ball was pretty shallow, Hunter has a solid arm, and Boesch is not fast.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Maybe, but Odds are they probably play the infield back because it’s so early in the game, and odds also are that Loverbay (love the nickname btw) at least makes contact. If there was one out I understand the move, but with no outs that’s a silly send.

        • MannyGeee

          Agreed, but I would bet my mortgage payment that LoverBay doesn’t hit that ball that far again. Like, all season…

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Fallacy, but fuck that was a horrible send.

  • MannyGeee

    Bad move sending Boesch, but I think having Lover-Bay on deck assumed you wouldn’t get the opportunity to move ther runner with 1 out.

    And as I say that, Lover Bay hits one off the wall. Well, shit

  • forensic

    I’m sure Nix will make up for his ineptitude in the field here.

    It’s not like he’s 0-9 with 7 K’s against Scherzer…

    • forensic

      0-10 with 8 K’s now. That’s impressive.

      • Pat D

        That is a poop in the refrigerator moment.

  • MrPappageorgio

    Nix sucks.

  • Dalek Jeter

    At least we earn our runs, Tigers.

  • Pat D

    Jeez, are the karma police out for all of us today? Wells HR, Boesch triple, gets thrown out and then Overbay doubles? Sounds like someone is out to get us.

    • SeventhAce

      With the way the injuries are racking up, I’m not surprised if a large group of people are out to hurt the Yankees…

      • Dalek Jeter

        +1 New World Order/Illuminati type shit!

        • Pat D

          Which nWo are you referring to?

  • SeventhAce

    With the way Nix is, he might as well be holding a soggy 6 feet Italian sub in his hands at the plate…

  • forensic

    Only the Yankees could get a Homerun, a triple, and a double in one inning and still only get one run out of it…

    • JonS

      So true…

  • MannyGeee

    I like seeing them hitting Scherzer this hard. Provides some faith for the faithless.

    Also, obligatory “Hughes is struggling with 2 strike counts in mid season form” joke.

  • Bartolo’s Colon

    Thompson is horrible as usual. Amazing that the yanks managed to double, triple, and homer in one inning and only score one run

  • Wheels

    The score should be 2-0, Yanks.

  • jjyank

    Anyone else thing Budweiser needs to change their catch phrase? “Grab some buds”? Maybe I’m just not far enough out of college, but I never think “beer” when I hear that.

    • Pat D

      Budweiser just needs to stop being shitty. But we all know that will never happen.

      • JonS

        Poor people need beer too.

        • Pat D

          That’s why Stroh’s was invented.

        • jjyank

          There’s better cheap beer than Budweiser.

        • SeventhAce

          Don’t forget that cheap ass friends who drop by your BBQ need something to bring too.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I get what you mean, the ‘s’ just feels like it doesn’t fit.

      • jjyank

        3 years ago, if someone said that to me I would reach for a bowl, not a beer.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Absolutely. Hell if somebody said it to me today I’d do the same, hooray for not being a secret agent ahm…State Department employee!

          • jjyank

            It’ll be legalized some day. I hope.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Absolutely. 10 years, maybe 20. It’s already legal in two states, and I’m pretty sure it’s going up on ballots for the midterms in a few others. I mean it’s only a matter of time until the Fed’s catch up.

              • jjyank

                Since I have no contacts left, obviously (it’s been almost 3 years since I quit), you may get a facebook message from me in 10 years :P

                • Dalek Jeter

                  Haha, hopefully we can just go to stores at that point ;)

                  • jjyank

                    …why was that not apparent to me immediately?

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      Because the concept of just buying in a store is just mind blowing?

                    • jjyank

                      Yeah, pretty much.

              • Pat D

                They could legalize it federally and a bunch of southern and midwestern states will find ways to ban it at the state level, I’m sure.

                • Dalek Jeter

                  That’s fine. I hate the south and Midwest anyway. Call me a snob, but regardless what I do in life I plan on it being very close to NYC, DC, Portland, San Fran, or LA.

                  • jjyank

                    Agreed. It’s quite the dilemma for my parents. They have the same attitude as me, and they’re trying to figure out where to retire. They want some warmer weather, but refuse to go to the south.

                    • Pat D

                      The Caribbean? Also, Florida isn’t really “the south.” It’s its own entity.

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      @ Pat, but they’re very anti-cannabis in Florida, to the point where there’s a state bill pending to outlaw all pipes for any purpose.

                      @ Justin, California. I have some friends who lived in San Diego for a while, one of them legit considered living homeless there vs moving back here because it’s so nice all the time there. While he was living with his brother in the dead of winter, he texted me a picture of him grilling steaks on the apt’s balcony w/ the Pacific in the distance.

                    • jjyank

                      They don’t want to be one of those old couples in Florida. And they also want to stay close enough to my brother and I to visit. I think right now they’re trying to find a liberal area near the Chesapeake.

                    • jjyank

                      Jeff, my parents actually lived in San Diego for 3 years before they got married. They love it, but they want to stay on the East Coast because of me and my brother.

              • forensic

                Hopefully not, or at least attach all the same things to it as alcohol.

  • vicki

    erin andrews should be seen, from the neck down, and not heard.

    • Pat D

      So what’s your take on Meredith then?

      • vicki

        smart, hot, and her voice doesn’t peel wallpaper.

      • Dalek Jeter

        I’m pretty sure the female presents on this site hates Meredith. I know Erica does, and I’m pretty sure Vicki does as well.

        • Pat D

          Ha! She just proved you wrong.

        • WhittakerWalt

          Meredith is my main jam.

        • vicki

          took some time to warm up to her after kim, but i’m a fan now.

  • forensic

    According to Waldman, Lackey ruptured a tendon in his elbow.

    Meanwhile, the Red Sox broadcast said it was a strained bicep.

    Don’t let accuracy get in your way Suzie!

    • Pat D

      She’s over-assuming, methinks.

      I will be upset if Mr. Awesome O’Clock has his comeback cut short.

      • jjyank

        *thunder clap*

      • MannyGeee

        I am hoping that its not serious, if for no other reason I want to see him get manhandled in June by the Yankees.

  • MrPappageorgio

    How soon do we play Houston? Maybe we can win that series

  • JonS

    No one gives a fuck about how Avila is going to get the exalt for “baby gate.”

    I hate Fox.

    • jjyank

      Better than watching the game on MLBN yesterday. They cut away from the Yankee game for a good 5 minutes so watch Josh Hamilton get booed in Texas and then discuss why he got booed in their studio. All the while I missed half an inning.

      • WhittakerWalt

        One thing I love about our fans is how we welcome former players. Remember the way Matsui and Tino got cheered when they came back to the Bronx with other teams?

        • Pat D

          Because they were winners!

        • jjyank

          That’s pretty much what they were saying in the MLBN studio. They didn’t mention the Yankees, but just said that they should appreciate Hamilton being at the forefront of possibly the best run in their franchises history. Some people are just so petty. Texas could have signed him, but they didn’t. It works both ways.

          • Pat D

            Sports fans in Texas know only football. They don’t know shit about baseball.

            • jjyank

              Or politics.

              Ba dum bum psshhhh.

            • MannyGeee

              Steers and Queers, man… Steers and Queers

        • Mike HC

          Yea, New York fans in general usually give warm welcomes to former stars. I’m sure there are some exceptions, but none that come to mind right now.

  • Mick taylor

    Robby Thompson is an idiot. With no out out you don’t send boesch on a shallow fly ball when the runner is not particularly fast. You send him with one out inthat scenario. He is not a good coach.

    • Eddard

      He’s been awful for a while now and nothing ever happens. Kevin Long is still the hitting coach after last year’s playoff debacle so that tells you everything you need to know about Girardi’s leadership. Thomson could have sent Chris Stewart there with Cano due up next and not a damn change would occur.

      • WhittakerWalt

        Only idiots like you would fire the hitting coach based on a 4-game series. Do you know nothing about how playoffs work? The Tigers turned around and did the exact same vanishing act against the Giants.

        • Pat D

          What are you talking about? The Tigers won the Series in 7 when Buster Posey hit into a series-ending DP.

          • Dalek Jeter

            I love those commercials.

            • jjyank

              Me too. They’ve been great. Hell, people still say “Well played, Mauer”, and that one aired a couple years ago. That’s some staying power for a commercial.

              • Mike HC

                Yea, I’m a fan of those commercials too. Very cool that the players are completely willing to play along.

                • Pat D

                  We all know Verlander was willing to play along. He got Kate Upton out of it.

                  • Mike HC

                    haha

              • MannyGeee

                Ummmm, I say it 3 times a week. I shoehorn it in to conversations whenever possible

                • Pat D

                  Well played, Manny.

  • Mike HC

    It really is great to have baseball back no matter how much the Yanks are struggling.

  • MrPappageorgio

    Maybe Cano will show up today. He looks like he doesnt give a shit

    • MannyGeee

      You must be new here… Cano “looks like he doesn’t give a shit” whether he’s hitting .450 or in a slump. That “Cano doesn’t care” shit needs to go back to ESPN where you found it

      • jjyank

        This.

      • WhittakerWalt

        Can you imagine if Cano played in Boston? Those fans would eat him alive.

  • forensic

    When does Cano get back from the WBC?

  • jjyank

    Youk is impressing so far.

    • Havok9120

      Yeah. Dude’s looked good in the early going.

  • SeventhAce

    The Evil Empire: Wash Ups Strikes Back ?

    • Pat D

      I find your lack of faith disturbing.

    • vicki

      Retreads, the Movie.

      • MannyGeee

        ReTreads 2: Electric Boogaloo

  • Mike HC

    Who would have guessed Cano would be our biggest offensive problem so far. You know it is not going to end up that way, but still.

    • jjyank

      Yeah, it sucks because Youk is hitting well behind him. I’m not sure how long that will last (performance or health), so it would be really great if they could click at the same time.

      • Mike HC

        True. I do have faith in Youk, although the health factor is tough to predict.

    • WhittakerWalt

      I had a sneaking feeling he’d get himself into trouble by trying to do too much and pressing. That’s exactly what we’re seeing. He has to understand he’s not going to get a lot of fat fastballs with the hitters he has around him, and just be patient.

      • Mike HC

        Also true. He needs to just lay off a lot of these pitches and take a walk.

  • Patrick

    Only way this team can score is with the home run.

    How the fuck do we only have 1 run when 4-5 balls have been crushed?

    • forensic

      By being 0-3 with RISP combined with terrible baserunning/coaching decisions.

  • JonS

    Joe Buck is going to spend this whole inning sucking Verlander’s balls.

    • Mike HC

      If you are going (figuratively) to suck anyone’s balls, it might as well be Verlander’s.

    • McLovin

      That’s the only thing he is good at and he does it shitty.

  • vicki

    oh, jesus christ, not another inning-long verlander suck-off. this takes me back to october.

  • Pat D

    When will you ever learn to put guys away, Phil?

    You’ve been like Fredo to me, Phil.

    • vicki

      phil hughes wants respect!

      • Pat D

        He was my first real prospect crush. He hath broken mine heart so much.

  • Chilango

    who gives a fuck what Verlander has to say.

    • jjyank

      Detroit fans?

      • vicki

        they’ve got the wolverines going in the final four tonight. fuck ‘em.

  • JonS

    If it wasn’t windy, The tigers would be up 4-1.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      If it wasn’t windy, the Yankees would have more runs too.

    • Patrick

      Bosch would have had a homer–not a triple– if not for the wind blowing in.

      • MannyGeee

        And LoverBays ball likely goes out too. It’s 4-3 easily if the winds were calm.

    • SeventhAce

      Cause only the Tigers were robbed of Hits and HRs by the wind…

    • Mike HC

      The Yanks are having enough problems that we don’t have to start making up hypotheticals to make it worse, ha

  • MrPappageorgio

    Sure glad we signed Arod instead of trading for Miggy.

    Wait wut?

    • McLovin

      Without Alex the Yankees don’t win the 2009 World Series.

    • Pat D

      I’d rather have the 2009 World Series than the guy you can’t trust to make sound decisions regarding alcohol.

  • Slu

    This speed and defense team sucks at speed and defense.

    • Slu

      And Gardner makes this comment look stupid, thankfully.

  • JonS

    People who say Fielder is incredibly agile sound like they’ve never seen an NFL game.

  • Chilango

    Can Hughes hold them here? Can he get that last out…???

  • Patrick

    Pheeewwwwww!

  • jjyank

    Whew. Thank you, Brett. Nice to have you in the OF again.

  • Dalek Jeter

    BRETT GARDNER!!! Cost my Fantasy team to RBI’s but so well worth it!!!!!

  • SeventhAce

    GGBG!!!!!

    • Dalek Jeter

      GGBG (Gritty, Gutty Brett Gardner)? I know that, but is that from this site?

      • SeventhAce

        I think it is from RAB, I first saw it here years ago when I frequented the threads.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Huh, I thought it was from 161st-and-River, a short lived yankee fan site. Then again, I started posting here when that site closed down, so that time is kind of a blur for me.

      • vicki

        pretty sure it’s gutty first, then gritty.

        • WhittakerWalt

          It definitely is. Gutty then gritty.

  • vicki

    the man.

  • McLovin

    What a play!

  • forensic

    Grandy woulda had that…

    standing…

    after two bounces.

    • jjyank

      Yep, probably.

    • Mike HC

      Yup. Please keep this man in center

      • vicki

        just don’t see it. grandy has had no reps in center.

        • vicki

          i mean left, obviously.

          • Mike HC

            Yea. It is easy to make the call from the couch. I don’t have to worry about Granderson actually being comfortable with the switch.

          • forensic

            Neither did Ichiro before they moved him there. Neither did Gardner before moving him there.

            They’re just making excuses for the higher paid incumbent, and making things more complicated than they need to be which they tend to do too often.

            • Mike HC

              Seems to me that centerfielders constantly transition to a corner spot without much of a fuss. But the Yanks seem hard up that they don’t want to mess with Granderson.

  • Cool Lester Smooth

    Thank you, Brett Gardner.

  • Pat D

    I guess I’ll try to watch this game now.

  • Chilango

    Granderson plays it on a hop

    • JonS

      …off the wall.

  • Mike HC

    I don’t want to jinx it, but even with the poor start, the game threads have been unusually enjoyable.

    • jjyank

      Yesterday was pretty bad.

      • Mike HC

        That was the only one I missed completely. Maybe I’m just getting lucky when I check in/participate. SSS

        • jjyank

          Or..maybe, you are to trolls what garlic necklaces are to vampires.

          *drapes Mike HC around neck*

          Problem solved.

          • Pat D

            Maybe that is why all of my talismans aren’t working.

          • Mike HC

            hahaha … that is too big of a burden for one man to bare!

    • SeventhAce

      You know them Intraweb Trolls can hear you type from hundreds of miles away right?

      • Mike HC

        Saying “I don’t want to jinx it” doesn’t take care of that problem?

        • SeventhAce

          Trolls don’t care, because they are trolls.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Idk, game 2 got pretty brutal when Eppley was left in for w/e reason . And yesterday’s wasn’t great either.

      Today has been fun so far.

      • Mike HC

        I was around for game 2 and I thought the criticism was valid. I don’t mind some frustration when things aren’t going well. I just don’t like when the board moves super fast with 99% of the comments being unreasonably negative.

  • MannyGeee

    I like the hustle on Boesch on the groundouts. He’s like the anti-Cano, right guy who thinks Cano doesn’t give a shit?

    • JonS

      It’s so weird the stigma Cano gets from the fans. He’s known as one of the hardest working players on his game in all baseball.

      • trr

        ….who can’t be bothered to run hard to first

        • jjyank

          So, so over analyzed.

          • trr

            I don’t agree that Cano doesn’t care; he’s just the epitome of the modern player;so it’s not cool to run hard. And if you do bust it, you’re labelled as “gritty” or a “throwback” player

            • jjyank

              Most of the time he doesn’t run hard, he doesn’t have a chance. Every once in awhile there’s an error and it looks bad, but it’s a stupid thing to bitch about. He’s a hard worker by all accounts. He comes to the park for early BP and he trains his ass off in the offseason. Jogging on a couple routine grounders will not change my perception of him, and I don’t think it should you for you either.

              • vicki

                #cosign, verbatim.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          It’s annoying as hell, but of all the possible faults for a player to have, I’ll take that one.

      • Crespo

        The hordes of morons who call themselves Yankee fans have this weird thing where a guy is Jesus Christ himself until the day he makes it to the bigs, from which point he becomes a bum for the rest of his life.

        • Dalek Jeter

          +1 They would have found something about Mike Trout to harp on last year. Or they would have burned Harper at the stake for immaturity for the “clown question” comment and his mid season slump.

        • trr

          u mean like they did with DJ, Andy, Mo, and Jorge?

          • jjyank

            People have shat on all those players at one point or another.

            • trr

              Basically, they’ve been treated like heroes (mostly deserved!) all their long careers. If the point is there’s a lot of front running, ignorant fans who root for the Yanks just to be associated with a winner, I’ll certainly go along with that.

              • jjyank

                And those players are also generational players. Not really fair to compare them, or the perceptions fans have of them, to other cases.

          • Crespo

            That was a timing thing. There weren’t half the people there are now that follow this team.

        • WhittakerWalt

          +2

  • Athenian

    Hughes goes 0-2 then 5 pitches later gives up a hit. That is what he has been.

  • McLovin

    Yes Joe we defiantly miss Andruw Jones homerun production.

    • SeventhAce

      No no, we miss his radiant sunshine smile when he strikes out.

  • Mykey

    Please do that thing where you strike people out, Philip.

  • Chilango

    Eric Chavez? Andruw Jones? What?

  • Chilango

    put…him…away…please

  • jjyank

    Nice, Phil.

  • Crespo

    Whoa..Bauer pitching for Cleveland tonight, what happened to Kazmir?

    • jjyank

      He strained is vagina getting out of bed this morning.

      Seriously.

      Not really. Strained left rib cage. He’s on the DL.

      • McLovin

        I wouldn’t doubt that for one second.

      • Crespo

        Wow, some guys…

        • jjyank

          Just trying to have some fun. I once read someone say that about Carl Pavano and thought it was funny.

          • Crespo

            No no, i mean some guys, like some guys like Kazmir just can’t stay on the field to save their lives

            • jjyank

              Ah. Sorry for misinterpreting you.

          • Dalek Jeter

            That’s terrible. I’m pretty sure he did hurt his vagina once, for you to laugh at that is terrible jj. GAWD.

    • forensic

      DL’ed already. Kind of sucks because the Yankees were going to see Kazmir next week in Cleveland. I know they suck against lefties, but it’s Kazmir, even they should’ve been able to hit him.

      • McLovin

        Hasn’t Kazmir always pitched well against the Yankees.

        • forensic

          He’s been fine, but this isn’t that same pitcher anymore. And they smacked him around twice in 2010 the last two times they same him.

  • Pat D

    Nice job mistaking 2011 for last year, Buck.

    Fucking idiot.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I’m almost happy I’m at work, listening to John and Suzyn.

      • WhittakerWalt

        That’s scary.

  • viridiana

    Meanwhile, pitching for Charleston, DePaula whiffs the fist six batters he faces.

    • jjyank

      Wait, seriously? 6 batters, 6 K’s? That’s awesome.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      The first six outs were strikeouts, but he allowed some baserunners in between.

      • MannyGeee

        Heh… That Betances territory there… How many plunks did he get in those 2 IP?

        • viridiana

          Well, now DePaula has struck out 10 thru 4.

  • forensic

    0-11 with 9 K’s for Nix. You almost have to try to miss the ball to strikeout that many times.

    • hogsmog

      Yes I mean, come on. Ground out weakly to second every once in a while, for chrissakes.

      • Dalek Jeter

        No, but seriously. I would absolutely take that. Please, Nix, I hate you…but it’s too easy. At least make contact.

      • McLovin

        I think that is too much to ask for out of him.

    • SeventhAce

      At least he’s driving up the pitch count?!

      /being positive

      But yeah he should go out there with a foam nerf bat next AB just for laughs.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Grandy accepts your challenge!

  • Dalek Jeter

    Damn Phil. You were going so well.

  • MannyGeee

    Nothing has ever made me more uneasy than seeing Logan warm up for Prince Fielder…

  • SeventhAce

    McCarver: Capt’n Fucking Obvious

    • trr

      u won’t have to listen to him much longer

      • SeventhAce

        I know, he’s finally quitting…

        Now if only Buck decides to leave as well…
        and Rosenthal is taken away by a bunch of leprechaun hunters…

  • Wheels

    Get him out of there.

  • Chilango

    Your basic Phil Hughes start.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Hughes is pitching fine for a 5th starter. I defy any pitcher to succeed with this lineup backing him up.

    • Anderson Silva

      3 runs in 4.1 IPs is not good, no matter what lineup you have behind you.

      • WhittakerWalt

        For a 5th starter.

        • forensic

          If that runner on 1st scores (just to make the ERA nice and easy) it’s a 9 ERA and a 2 WHIP.

          Sorry, that’s not even acceptable for a 7th or 8th starter.

          • WhittakerWalt

            Rivera has a 9.00 ERA so far, too. It’s game 5, a little early to be calculating anyone’s ERA. I’m not saying Hughes has been great, I’m just more confident in him than this bullpen.

            • forensic

              You said he is pitching fine for a 5th starter. Those numbers are how he is pitching.

              And trying to compare him to Rivera is just about the equivalent of giving up on your argument.

              • WhittakerWalt

                I’m just saying he scares me less than the bullpen, and this it’s a bit early in the season to close the book on how good he’s going to be.

                • forensic

                  I’m not closing the book on how he’s going to be based on this start. Though I do find it entertaining how so many people (not necessarily you) think he’s suddenly going to take a big step forward finally here in his 7th year after over 100 starts.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          He’s supposed to be the 4th starter. And lasting only 4 innings isn’t good for any starter.

      • forensic

        It’s an even 4 innings, with 8 hits, and 3 runs plus another runner still on base.

        • Dalek Jeter

          One of which was unearned. I’m not saying he pitched very well, but I think he did decently all things considered.

          • forensic

            Sorry, forgot about that. Still, it’s a 6.75 ERA and a 2 WHIP. Not to mention nearly 90 pitches in 4 innings.

            That’s not acceptable for any major league starter. This is not the game to point to for people trying to support Hughes.

            • WhittakerWalt

              It’s not that I love Hughes, just wonder about the quick hook. Especially since our relief corps is terrible in the early goings.

              • forensic

                Quick hook? They were smacking him around, most of the game, and especially in this inning. He’d thrown almost 90 pitches in 4+ innings in his first start after having only faced minor leaguers all Spring, and getting hit around a bit by some of them too.

                • WhittakerWalt

                  I’ll admit that following along on Gameday might not be telling me the whole story. Still doesn’t help to have Boone Proctor come in and let the whole thing get out of hand.

                  • forensic

                    I’m on gameday and radio too. And yeah, the middle bullpen blows right now. But you still can’t leave Hughes in there when he’s clearly getting smacked around.

                    • WhittakerWalt

                      I don’t want to fight. You’re one of the sensible ones. And I don’t even like Phil Hughes.

            • Dalek Jeter

              My point is just that till late last night, maybe early this morning, Hughes didn’t think he was going to be a ML starter today. If Adam Warren was brought up and gave us the effort Hughes did today we would’ve said “well, it could have been better, but it totally could’ve been worse.”

              • forensic

                Again, how is comparing him to Warren helpful? This is Hughes’ 7th year in the majors and he has over 100 career starts. It would’ve been Warren’s 2nd career start. It’s a totally different situation, just like the terrible comparison before of Rivera to him.

                And I guarantee you he knew at least two-three days ago that he could have to start, and knew mid-afternoon yesterday that he was definitely starting.

                • WhittakerWalt

                  I wasn’t comparing him to Rivera in any meaningful sense. Just pointing out that it’s silly to cite his season ERA after 4 innings. I’m certain he’s not going to have a 9 ERA at the end of the year.

          • WhittakerWalt

            It also doesn’t help when the relievers let all your runners score. Hughsie could have done that on his own.

      • WhittakerWalt

        Plus I’d rather have Hughes out there than this terrible bullpen.

    • trr

      To me, his main problem is he always seems to run his pitch count up, then has a terrible inning around the 5th or 6th…but if you are ranking him as a 5th starter, then yeah, he’s acceptable at that level. I’m sure the team is hoping he’ll be more of a #3 guy this year

  • jjyank

    Damn it.

    Well, at least I get some fantasy points.

    *ducks*

  • forensic

    The only surprising thing about this is that none of the balls have gone 500 ft. (and maybe that it didn’t happen earlier).

  • Athenian

    Good effort by Phil. 3-1, to many runs to make up.

  • vicki

    no.

  • Raymond Freemont

    Yankees are going to have a huge hole to dig out of once everyone returns. It’s going to make the second half of the season very interesting.

    • Athenian

      Except everyone won’t return. Tex will be back on the DL within 3 weeks, he need surgery. Grandy can’t carry the team. Forget about ARod, he won’t provide much. Jeter hitting singles but never scoring isn’t good either. This is jus one of those years.

      • jjyank

        You literally don’t know any of that.

        • Athenian

          Ok. ?

          • jjyank

            Well you’re speaking in absolutes. And they’re all negative, and all pulled out of your ass. The exactly opposite of everything you said could also happen.

            • Athenian

              Ok. They’re all negatives. But isn’t you disagreeing, meaning you think the exact opposite -same absolutes – that those players will save the team the same level of pulling it out of your ass?

              • jjyank

                No, because I never said any of those things will or will not happen. Read comprehension, it’s great.

                • Athenian

                  Ahh, good jab on reading comprehension apparently it only goes one way. But whether or not you said it, your statement still implies you believe the exact opposite because you grouped each item together. That makes your retort absolutes or at a minimum meaning you literally do not know that I am wrong any more than you would be right.

                  As a positive, your sharp tone and cut downs of any and everyone you don’t agree with, brilliant! Absolutely make me laugh.

                  • jjyank

                    You’re missing the point, which is hardly surprising. I simply said you don’t know those things would happen, and it exists in the realm of possibility that the opposite happens. I’m pointing out that you’re talking out of your ass. I made no predictions either way.

                    And now, for the moment we’ve all been waiting for…

                    O:S

  • Athenian

    Cecil will go yard.. Thank you Boone.

    • Mike HC

      Boone’s response after the game about missing his spot to Fielder on the homerun was pretty funny. He basically said that even if he hit his spot the result might not have been any different.

      • Athenian

        I loved the response. Good humor.

        • MannyGeee

          At least he’s honest

  • Mike HC

    Just when I thought that this was maybe going to be Phil’s year …

    • vicki

      come on, this was a rehab start. i still believe.

      • Mike HC

        True. I have to say, when the injury first happened it kind of put a damper on what I thought was going to be his year. You are right though, it could still be his breakout year. This lineup is no joke.

  • Dalek Jeter

    This reminds me of a game last season when Phil was pulled for Logan against a game in Minnesota. Taking him out strictly because of Handedness, regardless of what the numbers say (Hughes is better against LHH’ers than Prince, and Prince kills Logan)

    • Mikhel

      Prince had just 1 hit vs Logan before 2013 in 10 at bats. 2-2 this year.

      • forensic

        6 AB’s before this year.

  • MannyGeee

    Alright… This Detroit lineup is scary fucking good. I am starting to feel about Miggy-Prince what I used to feel about Ortiz-Manny back in 2003-2005

    • Raymond Freemont

      Minus the steroids and actually winning the world series.

  • jjyank

    Boonetang. Do you have a fucking cookie this time? Do your damn job.

    • jjyank

      NO COOKIES FOR YOU

  • Anderson Silva

    Awesome. I bet they bring Logan to face Prince yet again tomorrow.

    • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

      Nah, with JV on the mound it’ll be out of hand early and will be a long relievers day, not a matchup in a crucial spot day.

  • Mike HC

    I am not a Logan fan

  • forensic

    That was shocking…

    I can’t wait to see what happens with that matchup tomorrow…

  • MannyGeee

    How’s your LOOGY hangin?

    Short shriveled and a little to the left…

  • Wheels

    Catch the ball Cervelli!

  • MannyGeee

    Tough hop on that throw. An online throw has Miggy dead to rights.

  • Anderson Silva

    How can you be a pitching and defense team if you can’t pitch or play D?

    • trr

      well… you just… I…It isn’t…we….
      um, it’s early?

  • Dalek Jeter

    If I hear Suzyn say “the middle of Detroit’s order aren’t just sluggers, THEY’RE ALL GOOD HITTERS” one more time I’m going to lose it. She has said it no less than 7 times this game.

    Also, who knew that Prince was getting a hit off Logan? Who saw that coming?

  • Pinkie Pie

    Who do you blame on that? Boone for continuing to suck? Girardi for doing the same thing as yesterday and expecting different results?

    Also, nice D Cerv….

  • Slime

    Where’s damaso marte when you need him

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    In positive news, DePaula has 10 K’s in 4 IP so far.

    • Raymond Freemont

      He’s too young. Cashman fears young players.

      • jjyank

        Don’t troll like that. It’s weak.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        Cause other GM’s would jump him straight to the majors.

  • MannyGeee

    OK this inning is becoming Keystone Fucking Capers…

  • Raymond Freemont

    Logan is garbage and so is the shitty GM that kept him around and the even shittier manager that uses him.

  • Bartolo’s Colon

    amazing that cabrera just went 1st to third on a single. i don’t know if a yankee has done that in years?

  • forensic

    Way to go Boone!!! You rock!

  • Athenian

    Think Logan’s nickname should be “White Flag”. Then at Yankee Stadium when he comes into the game they can play the Dido song White Flag.

  • ClayDavis

    Sell the team Hal

    • Wheels

      Fill in that moat.

  • Patrick

    Any questions left about Cervelli’s defensive ‘prowess’?

  • trr

    going for a run….everyone, I expect we’ll be winning by the time I’m back?

    • forensic

      That’s gonna have to be a crazy long run…

  • WhittakerWalt

    Thanks for the effort, Boone Proctor.

  • dalelama

    Phew, we really stink.

    • WhittakerWalt

      It’s cute when you pretend to sound like a Yankees fan.

    • vicki

      “we.”

      • Dalek Jeter

        Look, he thinks he’s people.

        • jjyank

          I don’t know if they grade sand…but..coarse.

          • Dalek Jeter

            Yes!!!

  • stuart a

    Cannot see the game. Sounds like Logan continues about a 10 year tradition of crappy lefty on lefty results.

    season off to a horrible start…

    youkilis, pettitte, and wells and not much else…

    give cano that 7 year deal he deserves it , he is definitely not trying to pull every pitch. he is a dominating player just does not show it on the field…

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      throw him a parade…..

    • jjyank

      Where are the parades?

    • Mike HC

      One 4 for 5 game and all of a sudden his stats look dominant.

    • MannyGeee

      Oh shit. stuart a is back. No A Rod? No problem. Someone else sucks! Well played Mauer. (Threw that in for you, JJYank…)

      • jjyank

        Appreciated.

  • ClayDavis

    This team fucking sucks. Why is Hunter not on the Yankees. Obvious need. Hal Steinbrenner should die in a fire. Ruining this fucking franchise

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      One possible contributing factor would be because Hunter said Detroit was the only team he considered.

      The bigger question is why the fuck Cash didn’t trade Boone Logan for Mike Trout.

    • Mike HC

      If Hal dies in a fire that means Hank takes over. Much worse.

    • jjyank

      Wow. That’s…harsh.

      I’m guessing you had the TV on mute when earlier they were discussing how Hunter specifically wanted to sign with the Tigers so badly that the contract took less than 8 hours to hammer out.

      • ClayDavis

        I don’t buy that. Money talks.

        • jjyank

          For a guy his age trying desperately to win a ring? Maybe not.

          And even if it did, would it be better for the franchise going forward to overpay significantly for Hunter?

        • Crespo

          +1. The fact that they didn’t hand Hunter a 4-yr deal this offsesason is basis for fan revolt……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

      • Puppet

        Except for the fact that Hunter has said he would have loved to be a Yankee but they didn’t call. And the Halo’s didn’t want him, so yeah when a team finally steps up and wants you it’s easy to accept quickly.

        • jjyank

          Look, I prefer Hunter to Ichiro too, but acting like a spoiled child and pretending that force trade/signings is on and hoping the team’s owner “dies in a fire” just screams “I’m 12 years old my my mother should take my computer away”.

          • Puppet

            That’s fine, but it’s not like the Yanks couldn’t have had Hunter with a little effort.

    • Pinkie Pie

      “We’re trying to get our payroll under $189 million for 2013. And that’s why we’re currently fielding the highest payroll in MLB history THIS season”

      Sincerely,
      Hal Steinbrenner

    • viridiana

      Sometimes even violent profanity has the ring of truth.

  • Pinkie Pie

    Wow. The Yankees look reallly bad. Mot much to be excited about with this team.

  • Chilango

    It’s like its a rebuilding year but they’re not rebuilding. The injuries have made it a lot worse, but this was inevitable. All that’s missing are promising young players and Greg saying “we’re not going to win the World Series.”

  • Brian Cashman from another dimension

    Give Vidal Nuno or Juan Cedeno a chance.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Okay Robby, the season starts now, okay?

  • http://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    At what point do we borrow American Idol technology so fans can vote for what reliever to bring in? Pretty sure 99.999% of voters would have said anybody but Boone right there.

  • James A

    Wow, this is worse than I expected. I mean not only is this team bad on paper, but there’s a lifelessness to them. I know it’s early, but it’s hard to see much to be excited about. Hal should absolutely sell, this is his dad’s thing clearly not his, let a group that’s passionate about winning and building the Yankee brand take over, because it’s going to get much worse before it gets any better

    • MannyGeee

      Thanks for coming by.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Kevin, no reason to tell you this, but seriously…just put the bat down.

  • MannyGeee

    So Scherzers gone wild huh…

  • CoolYankeesGuy

    Why is our team’s plate discipline so bad?
    Why is our bullpen garbage?

  • Dalek Jeter

    Pronk!!!

  • DInnings

    I would trade the following:

    Teixiera, Gardner, Wells, Suzuki, Cano, Granderson, Hughes, Nova, Chamberlain, Logan (last five in their walk year.)

    As for the minors, ANYONE.

    I hope Teixiera never plays again so the WBC has to pay his remaining salary, or at least all of his 2013 salary then Teixiera is on the perpetual disabled list with A-Rod (since both won’t retire) and the Yanks make back insurance money on both of them.

    • MannyGeee

      Thanks for coming. Seriously, you’ve added so much with your irrational words….

    • Pinkie Pie

      Thank you for sharing your opinion.

  • vicki

    don’t dream, vicki. don’t let yourself dream.

  • MannyGeee

    Albequerque also cannot find the plate. This could get interesting

  • CoolYankeesGuy

    Good, the Yankees mash this guy.

    • forensic

      Huh? He’s pitched 2 inning against them in his career and they don’t have a single hit.

      • WhittakerWalt

        I think they killed him in the ’11 playoffs.

  • Pinkie Pie

    BoeschSlam

  • Eddard

    The Tigers pen is their achilles heel. They must take the lead here. Boesch has his chance at revenge here. Nix won’t do shit.

  • forensic

    Has Sterling never watching Hafner ‘run’? He’s acting like it’s a guarantee that he scores on a single.

    • vicki

      i googled donkeys running; they’re really quite fleet.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Teh fuck is happening?

  • jjyank

    Wow. Terrible call, but…I’ll take it I suppose.

    • jjyank

      Or not.

  • Anderson Silva

    terrible baserunning.. this team is awful

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    More horrible baserunning.

  • Eddard

    Can’t do that. Can’t overrule like that once the ump calls him safe. Awful overrule. Get thrown out, Joe and put some life into your team.

  • WhittakerWalt

    This team.

  • Chilango

    Really bad break. Just what we didn’t need. Fuck.

  • Mclovin

    They can fucking do that?

  • Dalek Jeter

    Why isn’t Cervelli being pinch hit for?

    • SDB

      Who’d replace him that’s capable of hitting with RISP?

    • forensic

      Because Francisco is such a great hitter?

      Plus, they need to keep him available as he’s the emergency IFer now.

    • vicki

      because he’s one of the better hitters on the team at the moment?

      • Pinkie Pie

        That incredibly fucking ironic.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      With who, Ichiro?

    • Dalek Jeter

      touche, all of you, all of our LHH batters that can hit are already in the game..

  • CoolYankeesGuy

    Go Cisco.

  • dalelama

    Girardi is acting like a resl crybaby.

    • WhittakerWalt

      He should wear dark glasses and a fake mustache, like your favorite manager.

  • Eddard

    Get thrown out, Joe. How many times have umps made a shit call and they never overrule it. Never. Last time Joe got thrown out in Detroit it did wonders for the club.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Loverbay, seriously, if it’s not right down the middle…why are you swinging 1st pitch?

    • WhittakerWalt

      God I hate that.

    • MannyGeee

      Thanks for this Dalek. A buddy at work turned me on to calling him LoverBay, thank you for making it a thing.

      • Dalek Jeter

        I love it, I picked up on it earlier in the game and it works so perfectly.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    That’s OK Overbay. He’s struggling to find the plate. But feel free to swing at any crap he throws.

  • CoolYankeesGuy

    Damn it, between browsing here and /sp/ Yankees threads this is really killing me.
    Let’s hope Al is wild.

  • Pinkie Pie

    Wtf, Lyle? He”s wild as hell and you swing at the first pitch?

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    wtf asshole

  • Dalek Jeter

    What are you swinging at dude?!

  • Preston

    STOP SWINGING HE CAN’T THROW STRIKES!!!!!!

  • Anderson Silva

    Overbay must be swinging with his eyes closed. He hasn’t seem a pitch close yet

    • Anderson Silva

      finally opened his eyes and swung at a pitch in the zone… NICE

  • yo

    Bat should be glued to his shoulder

  • Dalek Jeter

    lOverbay #True Yankee?

  • Pinkie Pie

    NO WAI

  • jjyank

    Lyle Mother Fucking Overbay.

  • JonS

    Tigers fans must hate Albequerque.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Probably Leyland as well, for leaving him in to face Overbay.

  • Ron

    Omg a 2 out hit, is anyone recording this.

    • vicki

      we got our first lead of the season wednesday night on a two-out two-rbi overbay single, you know.

      get used to it?

  • WhittakerWalt

    I forgive you, Loverbay.

  • vicki

    lyle overbay. jockeying for TYtm status.

  • Eddard

    Overbay was another excellent pickup by Cashman. Too back we can’t PH for Nix.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Truly Professional.

  • Dalek Jeter

    RISPWIN! with THE BASES LOADED!

  • Pinkie Pie

    Could have been worse, but it feels like the Yankees should have done more that inning.

    • Tom

      At least Girardi can’t bring Logan in here….

      /looking for the bright side

  • SDB

    Nix. Sigh.

    At least there’s a glimmer of hope.

    Please, Phelps, don’t undo that inning when Cabrera’s up…

  • CoolYankeesGuy

    It’s okay, Overbay was just fucking with us.

  • Dalek Jeter

    When the Daleks take over the universe I’m demanding we exterminate Jayson Nix first.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Nixie’s a baseball player. That’s the highest compliment you can give somebody.

  • Slime

    This needs to be a quick shut down inning

  • Chilango

    Time to put up a zero….

  • WhittakerWalt

    This bullpen’s going to drive me to drink (more).

    • jjyank

      Way ahead of ya.

    • vicki

      yep.

  • jjyank

    Fuuuck Phelps.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    I’m so glad I’ll never have to listen to Tim McCarver’s swill ever again after this year. If only he’d take Joe Buck with him.

    • Chilango

      Yanks give it back again.. maddening. Then there’s the booth. When it’s called a ball, it’s “just inside” and when it’s called a strike “Phelps got a gift.”

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        Fox should make Buck partner with Artie Lange when McCarver retires after this year.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Gameday is saying at least 2 of those pitches were strikes, confirm?

    • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

      Zone’s been a little tight on the corners today, at least from my observation.

  • jjyank

    …did Joe Buck really need help explaining what OPS is?

    • Dalek Jeter

      Surely you mean OPS+? Because I can teach a 4th grader OPS.

      • jjyank

        No. Just regular OPS. It was painful that it needed to be explained to people.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        But can you teach OPS to Tim McCarver?

        • Dalek Jeter

          If I had an infinite amount of time and he was literally anybody else on the planet.

          • jjyank

            Loving the Archer references today.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Ha, you’re even getting the woefully esoteric references. I’m so proud. These were all here last season, you just weren’t as well versed in the show.

              • jjyank

                I didn’t even start watching Archer until probably August or so, so yeah, I’m sure I missed most of them back then. This season? I’ve watched every episode at least 3 times now :D

      • vicki

        come on, guys. in order for us to be pleased with ourselves for being smart about this stuff we need other people to be dumb about it.

    • WhittakerWalt

      I’m hoping they just do that for the first game of the year.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    Fox is now up to OPS. Wonder how long it’ll take them to learn a real offensive metric like wOBA.

  • Pinkie Pie

    Wow. Thank god Ken Rosenthal explained what OPS was for me. I don’t know what I’d do without him.

  • dalelama

    Amazing the Babe had a lifetime OPS of 1.164.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Fun fact: “the Babe” is dalelama’s nickname for Butch Huskey.

      • MannyGeee

        Also true, in EddardWorld the Eduardo goes by “Babe Nunez”

  • WhittakerWalt

    I’m so glad we have literally NO ONE who can come in and get a hitter like Fielder out.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    McCarver probably thinks we invaded South Korea with talk about WAR.

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      North Korea that is.

    • MannyGeee

      What is is good for?

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        Absolutely nothin, say it again.

        • MannyGeee

          OK MOTHERFUCKERS…. Raise your hand if you read that in your Jackie Chan voice…. Because you know you did

          • jjyank

            *raises hand*

            I can’t lie.

  • Crespo

    as bad as Buck and Macarver are, let’s all take a moment to remember that we no longer have to listen to Joe Morgan

    • dalelama

      Morgan was much better than McCarver.

    • Hoss

      I’d take a Sterling-fest over listening to McCarver for a game. The sound is OFF.

  • yeayo

    When does football start?

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      19 days till the draft.

  • vicki

    that’s right, nixie. follow it all the way into your glove.

    • MannyGeee

      Fundamentally sound defense. Except for when he makes an error in the 1st inning, but I digress

  • dalelama

    Where is moron who was saying how effective Phelps was going to be this year?

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      Wasn’t it you or your fellow Mensa member Eddard?

    • MannyGeee

      There was mention of Jon Neise…. And a bag of dicks… But I do not recall the effective Phelps conversation.

  • Chilango

    Are we sure Boras didn’t dump Cano?

  • WhittakerWalt

    Fucking Cano.

  • Craig Sagermetrics

    All you self-righteous fuckwads bitching about OPS and WAR being explained on the broadcast: shut the hell up.

    Sorry not everyone watching Fox is a baseball statistics genius like yourself. God forbid some casual fan watching the game doesn’t know what some non-traditional metrics are. Yeah, McCarver is a douche, but Christ almighty, you people suck the dick of sabermetrics all day long then scoff when someone tries to explain your precious stats to people who might not know what they are. Not every schmoe flipping through the channels on a Saturday evening is an advanced metrics nut. You should be happy they at least took a cut at explaining some basic SABR stats.

    • vicki

      we totally had that coming.

    • Dalek Jeter

      If explaining OPS to you takes more than a two minute conversation you should need permission to use a computer.

      • MannyGeee

        Agreed, it’s filler and if you need more than 2 breaths and more than one ‘expert analyst’ to describe it, you’re doing it wrong.

    • WhittakerWalt

      I actually agree with this, though the hostility’s a bit much.

      • Craig Sagermetrics

        I apologize for the hostility of my words. It originates from the alcohol-fueled frustrations of watching our pitching today.

        • WhittakerWalt

          I guarantee I’m drunker than you.

    • Eddard

      Couldn’t have said it better myself, Craig. Even the sabermetricians Ronald Reagan, Bill James, would probably agree that trying to teach people these things is a much better way to get people on your side than to belittle them.

      • MannyGeee

        Are you agreeing ironically to piss off other people that you piss off? Or did you all of the sudden find sympathy? You confuse me.

      • vicki

        wha?

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      I apologize. In all fairness, I applaud them for their efforts.

    • jjyank

      Ehh. WAR, sure. Explain it. A lot of fans don’t know what it is, or how it’s calculated. OPS? If you need more than 30 seconds to explain OPS, then that’s just sad. I don’t even consider OPS a sabermetric statistic. It’s just the addition of on base percentage and slugging. Boom, done.

    • Hoss

      Fuck OPS. We’re already into Black OPS, aka BOPS. Expect an attack by Special Forces (aka SF) before the ASB.

  • WhittakerWalt

    I guess that’s what a shutdown inning looks like.

  • MannyGeee

    I bet you dollars to donuts that Erin Andrews is a minx in the sack… She seems like she’d be a real fun lover

    • Dalek Jeter

      She is.

      #Giftbasket

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        She’s too old for Derek.

        • Pasta diving youlklis

          Isnt jeter nailing the direct tv genie girl.

          • MannyGeee

            Do you think he just decide what girls to date based on what he sees on TV in assorted hotel rooms? I imagine it like normal humans shopping on HSN or something…

            • Dalek Jeter

              “huh, she’s hot.” *picks up phone* “Agent turn on channel blank. Find me that girl’s number.”

    • Mike HC

      I don’t think she is in to videotaping though

      • MannyGeee

        I would ask her if I could tape it, just to make her an angry fun little sex kitten.

        • jjyank

          Well there’s a visual.

        • Manny’s BanWagon

          I suspect there would be issues other than videotaping that would be a deal breaker.

        • vicki

          i enjoyed this thread, except the erin andrews part. unless you could figure out a way to avoid looking at her face. hmmm.

          • MannyGeee

            Trust me, I used to drink enough to do MUCH worse.

    • Pasta diving youlklis

      Looks like a reverse cowgirl fan to me.

  • Mike HC

    Any chance we break the 4 run barrier today? Regardless of outcome.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Yankee baserunning is rubbing off on Avila.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    Jackson is on my fantasy team. Please steal 2nd now.

  • MannyGeee

    Phelps has almost picked off both Avila and Jackson this inning. Kid has a quick move to first.

  • MannyGeee

    Nice snag by LoverBay there…

    • Dalek Jeter

      Since this is your thing, we’re making it LoverBay? Cause I was doing Loverbay and lOverbay before.

      • MannyGeee

        LoverBay or Loverbay work for me. Now, if your so inclined sing it along to this like I did all goddam day while cleaning out my shed (yeah, there’s something wrong with me):

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxCDAs3kbAU

  • Pasta diving youlklis

    I can not believe how much we need Pineda to be like he was. Our pitching is shit. Nova needs to go down phelps is a long reliever The pen is a mess logan cooked need Cabrel to be something or we are fucked.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I’m going to say to you what I said to everybody who was all up on Phelp’s dick last season: Lets give the kid a full season in the bigs before we decide exactly what he is/isn’t.

    • Chilango

      Last year’s pitching with this year’s hitting. Not a good combo.

  • Mike HC

    Back of Detroits pen is terrible. WE can definitely make this interesting.

  • WhittakerWalt

    In other news…

    http://tinyurl.com/cmcm6sh

    What a swell bunch of fans.

    • MannyGeee

      But, did they throw batteries?

      – Cliff Lees little piggy wife

      • vicki

        i’ve had my hair pulled by bleacher creatures just because i was on a date with a guy wearing a tweed blazer (okay, what was he thinking?), and worse at jets games. beer and testosterone. fans are dicks all over.

  • Mike HC

    Happy to see Girardi sticking with Hafner against a lefty and not messing with Francisco.

  • Chilango

    Heeeeeere’s Joba!

  • forensic

    The Yankees bullpen sure is great at closing games down, for the other team.

    Everytime the offense actually gets out of their own way to score a couple runs and make the score close, the bullpen immediately gives the runs right back and it’s just gut punch after gut punch taking whatever life may have been left in the offense away.

    • Crespo

      Would have been nice to see what Aardsma had left in the tank.

  • Mike HC

    I always enjoy watching Joba pitch. Trying to find some positives.

    • Chilango

      You’re kidding right? And this year he’s even scarier with the cheesy stache,

      • Mike HC

        I’m a fan. No doubt it has been a rocky road. And the stache is terrible.

        • Mike HC

          On second thought, this is not that enjoyable. Cabrera, Fielder and Martinez is not exactly a walk in the park though

    • Crespo

      I would enjoy it too if it it didn’t force me to relive the stupidity of his development.

      • Mike HC

        True. I’m still not completely over that either

        • Crespo

          I’ll never get over that one.

      • WhittakerWalt

        I don’t really know how much of that we can blame on the way he was treated, and how much is just him not being as good as we thought he’d be.

        • Mike HC

          Probably some combination of both.

        • Crespo

          Except he wasn’t that bad in his starts, he just had trouble getting through the order for the 2nd and 3rd times(like 99% of young pitchers)

          • WhittakerWalt

            Yeah, but that’s a sure sign that a guy should go back to the bullpen. You rarely have to see the lineup turn over when you’re a reliever. He’s been practically useless ever since coming back to the bullpen.
            I don’t know. I hear way too many excuses coming out about Joba. For a guy who was handled with kid gloves for so long, you’d think they made him pitch ’til his arm fell off.

            • Crespo

              “Yeah, but that’s a sure sign that a guy should go back to the bullpen.”

              My point is, there was no reason at all to put him in the starting rotation in ’08. He should have went back down for one, maybe even two seasons. If he had, he’d be probably be a starter this day.

              You can argue that is hindsight is 20/20 blah blah blah. But teams that don’t understand the fact that a guy who hasn’t proven he can pitch 160+ effective innings in AA/AAA isn’t going to succeed in the bigs are doomed to run young arms into the ground.

  • Pasta diving youlklis

    Joba in to give up 2 more runs
    Joba = gas on fire.

  • Mike HC

    “John Lackey will undergo an MRI on his injured right arm Sunday morning in Boston.
    Lackey suffered a right biceps strain during his start Saturday afternoon against the Blue Jays. It looked bad, but the MRI will tell the whole story. Lackey had Tommy John reconstructive elbow surgery in November 2011.”

    That was quick

    http://www.rotoworld.com/headl.....arm-sunday

    • And in merrie olde England

      “it looked bad”

      I have to say I found it scary

      http://www.rotoworld.com/image.....B/3492.jpg

      • Mike HC

        hhaha … good one

        • And in merrie olde England

          He actually looks like a plastic model of Youk that’s been left by the fire for a while.

  • And in merrie olde England

    Late to the party but wtf is Joba doing, is he trying to fol everyone that he’s boomer reborn (in a mirror)?!

  • Pasta diving youlklis

    Cervelli should bring joba a razor
    He looks like 80 gay clone.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Even if we were to somehow come back and win this game, can we please not give up 17 freaking hits to the Tigers?

  • Mick taylor

    Does anyone find it ironic that the umpire Jerry lane reversed the call of the first base umpire on the double play but the home plate umpire and ist base umps in last years playoff were not willing to do that for the yanks when cano was safe at first and second. Had they made the right call in those games the yanks most likely win one of them and the whole series may have been different

  • WhittakerWalt

    I remember when Joba used to be fun to watch.

  • MannyGeee

    Joba is getting squeezed.

    • MannyGeee

      And when I say squeezed, I obviously meant that he should be getting those calls on the 58 footer he just launched

      • WhittakerWalt

        According to Gameday, Joba showed a lot of faith in Cervelli by throwing that slider with a man on third. Somebody needs to tell Gameday that Joba will throw his stupid slider in any situation and get the same crap results.

    • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

      The strike zone seems to have been kind of screwy all day

  • Wheels

    Oh dear.

  • Craig Sagermetrics

    Good to see Joba in top form this evening.

  • Pasta diving youlklis

    Yup
    Didnt need aardsma.

    • Laz

      Aardsma would have been only able to get 2 outs.

      • Dalek Jeter

        2 more than Eppley could.

  • MannyGeee

    OK shave the mustache, it’s brought you nothing but trouble so far in this young season.

  • vicki

    shave the evil, joba.

  • Chilango

    The postgame shows are going to be hideous this year.

  • WhittakerWalt

    I’m sticking this game out to the bitter end, but seriously. Fuck Joba. That guy’s been rubbish for so long now, it’s time to give up the idea of him reclaiming is former glory.

    • Chilango

      Same goes for Flying Balls Phil, and maybe Nova.

  • forensic

    Heh, trading an out for a run actually just lowered Joba’s ERA from 40.50 to 36. Gotta love early season reliever numbers.

  • Mike HC

    The ol’ strike em out, throw em out.

  • Pasta diving youlklis

    I miss
    MFIKY

    • forensic

      He blew a save today too.

    • And in merrie olde England

      I miss having a need for a closer

  • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

    What the heck was going on with that?

  • Pasta diving youlklis

    Watch ichiro going to hit a 5 run hr for the win.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Ichiro looks like so much ass this year.

  • Wheels

    Ouch!

  • OldYanksFan

    Actually the only good news to a 1-4 start is that this makeshift Offense hasn’t been horrible (except for Cano). Youk looks good, Wells isn’t done yet, and Hafner isn’t dead.

    The Pitching has sucked.
    Hughes is gone after this year, along with Joba.
    We gotta hope that CC, Andy and Hiroki can get us/keep us at .500.

  • WhittakerWalt

    One thing I’ll say about all these losses, there wasn’t a cheapie in the bunch. We deserved every one of them. I guess that’s better than getting robbed by the umps.

  • Pinkie Pie

    They lost 8-3 yesterday and 8-4 today. PROGRESS.

  • Chilango

    Hope CC pitches like Verlander tomorrow.

    • Frank

      Funniest post of the entire thread.

  • vicki

    go shockers.

    • Reuben Sierra’s Chains

      Not going to happen. Sorry.

  • forensic

    At least they kept their streak of 4 or less runs going. And still haven’t reached double digits in hits.

  • OMG! Bagels!

    Sorry I haven’t been around the game threads. Have decided to jump off the ledge in April this year instead of joining everyone else game to game. Not that I ever joined last year, but I figured why put myself through the hell of optimism for all those games only to be swept by the Tigers. I’m jumping now.

    Actually I’ve been working a lot but am seriously hopeful that they win 2 games this year.