Game Four: Back in Detroit

(Jonathan Daniel/Getty)

(Jonathan Daniel/Getty)

The last time the Yankees played a game in Detroit, their season came to an unceremonious and brutally ugly end. The Tigers swept New York out of the ALCS last fall in a four-game series that was a little closer than we might remember — Game One went to extra innings, Game Two was a one-run game for seven innings, Game Three was a one-run game overall — but still a lopsided win for the defending AL Central champs. They outscore the defending AL East champs 20-9 in the four games.

After playing a night game in the Bronx, the Yankees are on MoTown for the Tigers’ home opener this afternoon. It’s not the longest flight in the world, but it still sucks having to play a day game after a night game when you have to change cities. Fatigue in these situations tends to show up the day after, meaning it would probably be more evident in tomorrow’s game than today’s. I dunno, we’ll see. Here’s the starting nine…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. 2B Robinson Cano
  3. 3B Kevin Youkilis
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. RF Brennan Boesch
  6. SS Eduardo Nunez
  7. LF Ichiro Suzuki
  8. 1B Lyle Overbay
  9. C Chris Stewart

And on the mound is someone who will hopefully pitch like his rotation spot is on the line with Phil Hughes scheduled to return next week, right-hander Ivan Nova.

This afternoon’s game is scheduled to start at 1:08pm ET, though it might be a little later because of the home opener festivities. Either way, the game can be seen on YES locally and MLB Network nationally, and remember to join in this afternoon’s chat after the jump (starts at 1pm ET). Enjoy.

Hiroki Kuroda Update: Kuroda (finger) threw 36 pitches in the bullpen today and everything went fine. The team will wait to see how he feels tomorrow before deciding whether he will make his next scheduled start on Monday.

Categories : Chats, Game Threads


  1. Eddard says:

    There’s nothing like half assing it at work so you can listen to two people who never half ass their jobs. “And I thank you Suzyn and once again, good afternoon everyone.” It gives me chills to listen to that voice.

    I predict another W today behind our great starting pitching. This might be a pitchers duel, Nova vs Fister just like the playoffs 2 years ago.

  2. Winter says:

    Cano bats second once. Yankees win. Now Cano bats second.

    • Joe R says:

      Yeah I dont get this at all. Girardi’s reasoning was more at bats with hopefully people on in front of him. Overbay, Stewart, and Gardner. Yeah that sounds like a swell plan Joe. Why not just put Nunez second? He can hold his own. Cano 3rd. Youk 4th and Hafner 5th. Ugh.

  3. s says:

    Why the hell is Chris Stewart starting again? Wow.

  4. Jim Is Bored says:

    Go Yanks!

  5. Vern Sneaker says:

    Cervelli needs a rest? He’s a young athlete, for God’s sake. The next game isn’t until 4 p.m. tomorrow. He just hit a 7 zillion foot HR and Girardi sits him down.

    • Jim Is Bored says:

      Long season. No point running him into the ground early. Catching’s rough on guys of any age.

      • jsbrendog says:

        plus, if cervelli goes down….jesus…fucking…christ…

      • Vern Sneaker says:

        I think more likely it’s that Girardi isn’t thing of Cervy as the first-string catcher and so divides the work. Teams don’t rest their starting catchers after two games.This is Girardi managing badly.

        • Jim Is Bored says:

          And I think it’s more likely you’re reading too much into the situation. No one knows who’s right yet.

          • Vern Sneaker says:

            Maybe, but I don’t see any reasonable argument against Cervy being the first-string catcher.

            • Jim Is Bored says:

              I don’t either, which is why I’m assuming Girardi is just resting Cervelli.

              • forensic says:

                Like he just rested him in game 2 after a day off against a pitcher he’s had success against? I think it’s likely you’re not reading enough into the situation.

        • jjyank says:

          Teams rest their starting catcher in a day game after a night game all the time. Who cares if it happens in April or August? It’s a long season, there’s no sense in running him into the ground now.

  6. Jim Cavanaugh says:

    Ughhh … this place again man.

  7. jsbrendog says:

    think ill do the tigers radio broadcast for ths one….and duck out before the game thread gets to the usual point of horrendousness

    • Jim Is Bored says:

      I will only be here for another ~40 minutes, and I’m clearly not being productive at my job, so I’ll stick around and be entertained.

  8. Kramerica Industries says:

    Fister again.


  9. Jim Is Bored says:

    I so desperately want Hafner to stay healthy this year.

    Fools hope, probably. But I feel like he could have a great season.

  10. Kramerica Industries says:

    Tough luck.

  11. jjyank says:

    Ah fuck. Off the bat I thought that would go through.

  12. Jim Is Bored says:

    Gah I do not miss In Play, Out(s).

  13. MB923 says:

    Hey all, not home to watch the game. I see Cano grounded out. Was the shift on him again and if so, was he robbed of another hit?

  14. Pat D says:

    No, Michael, Austin Jackson is not a “former Yankee.”

  15. jjyank says:

    Ok, Miggy. Here’s the deal. You can go 4-4, but you’re not allowed to drive in or score any runs. Alright? alright.

  16. Kramerica Industries says:

    Nova picking up right where he left off. Amazing.

  17. jjyank says:

    Whew. Nice curveball there.

  18. King George says:

    The Yankees must be allergic to “0″ in the 1st inning.

  19. jjyank says:

    1st and 3rd with no outs and only 1 run scores? I’ll take it. Nova needs to settle down though.

  20. wow says:

    Why is Fister so friggin lucky on those comebackers?

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      He actually got drilled on his pitching hand in Game 1 last year (oddly enough, I think it snuffed out a bases loaded rally…go figure).

      The annoying part? He didn’t allow a single run the rest of his outing. After getting drilled on his damned pitching hand in a freezing Yankee Stadium. Ridiculous.

      • JLC 776 says:

        And that was one or two innings after the blown call at second that cost us at least one run. Guy was on the ropes, gets hit in the hand, settles down and kills us. Screw him, screw Detroit, and screw that series!

  21. JLC 776 says:

    A non-error error there by Nunez.

  22. BrienTaylorsRookieCard says:

    Is Detroit becoming the Angels of the 2000s (sans 2009) for us in the ’10s?

  23. Havok9120 says:

    I need baseball to distract me from the unforgiveably stupid thing I did today.

    Go Yanks.

  24. ClayDavis says:

    The Tigers are going to win this game 8-1

  25. Celerino Sanchez says:

    Stewart’s a bum. Calls four straight fastballs to the #9 hitter.

    • CashmanNinja says:

      Maybe it’s because there was a guy on base and Nova kept bouncing his curveballs in the dirt causing them to go all over the place. Stewart isn’t exactly a stud by any means, but with the way Nova is pitching there is no catcher out there who could coax a quality start out of him at this rate. Nova looks flat out terrible. I can’t remember seeing so many full counts with so few batters.

  26. TomH says:

    53 pitches, 2 innings of sheer labor. The Yankees’ April schedule is tough enough that they don’t need Nova in the rotation to make it worse. God help them if Hughes can’t get back soon.

  27. JLC 776 says:

    2 innings; 93 combined pitches. This game is already killing me.

  28. Eddard says:

    That’s why you send the runner. I just don’t know why Joe doesn’t let Gardner and Nuney fly.

    • jjyank says:

      Fister is quick to the plate and running into outs isn’t the greatest idea with Cano at the plate.

      • Slugger27 says:

        gardner is quick to 2nd base and staying in a GIDP situation isnt the greatest idea with one of your slower runners at the plate.

        2 can play the very over simplistic game. just sayin.

        • jjyank says:

          I didn’t say Garnder shouldn’t have run. Eddard said he “didn’t know why”, so I provided some potential logic. No need to be snarky.

    • Bryan says:

      The Detroit catcher is one of the better run catchers in the league. Not the correct time to do that.

  29. JLC 776 says:

    I’m by no means jumping on the Cano is lazy bandwagon, but that double play beat him by far too large a margin.

    • bobtaco says:

      Is there any more frustrating player to watch when cold than Robinson Cano?

      • JLC 776 says:

        What’s he batting, like .080 now?

        Guy goes .500 over the last two weeks of the regular season and stops playing in the postseason.

        Guy goes .400 or so in the WBC, winning MVP, and looks weak and uninterested over the first three games.

        Small sample size and all, but yes, he is incredibly frustrating to watch at times!

  30. Celerino Sanchez says:

    Give Cano back his DR hat. Maybe he’ll play better!

  31. Bryan says:

    This game is so terrible.

  32. Slugger27 says:

    i doubt gardner even has a steal sign. its jsut the permanent green light for whenever he wants to run. i would assume anyway.

  33. CashmanNinja says:

    Because Fister holds runners on really, really well…

  34. Jimmy says:

    sick of Cano already.

  35. BrienTaylorsRookieCard says:

    no shift and he hits the ball to the opposite twice today for outs.

  36. Ivan Nova says:

    I bwanted to blay por la dominicana but dey said I can’t ’cause my ERA was over cinco

  37. Athenian says:

    Cano is just awful right now.

  38. Anthony says:

    Hmm. Still confused by all this draft pick stuff. We have 4 of the top 66 picks, and $7 million to sign them. We theoretically could use all $7 mill on the first pick though, thereby losing the other 3 picks?

    I guess I’m confused about how the money is related to the picks. Lets say we had 2 picks, each worth $2 million. But we use all $4 million on one pick, so we lose the other. But what if we use $3,999,999 on one pick and leave $1 for the other (as stupid as that sounds) – would we still have that second pick?

    • jjyank says:

      Each pick has a certain amount of money for the slot. If you don’t sign a player, you don’t get to allocate that slot money to another player.

      So the Yanks have 2 picks and $2 mil each in slot money, $4 mil in total. The Yankees can’t spend $4 mil on one player and not sign the other, because they will lose $2 mil in their pool by not signing the player.

  39. CashmanNinja says:

    Well that was an outstanding catch by Boesch.

  40. TomH says:

    Where in hell are the Yanks staying if Sterling is right and, if you miss the bus, it’s a 70 buck cab ride to Comerica?

  41. JLC 776 says:

    Alright, Boesch! I don’t know if Ichiro would’ve had that!

  42. Kramerica Industries says:

    Some seriously loud outs there.

  43. Eddard says:

    Nova’s keeping us in the ballgame. Now the offense needs to do something. If Nuney gets on let him fly. Can’t just sit back and wait for the 3 run HR. They aren’t going out today.

    • TomH says:

      Well, I guess one might interpret this labored outing as “keeping [the Yankees] in the ballgame.” It does seem kind of generous though.

      • JLC 776 says:

        When it’s a beloved veteran, it’s called ‘battling’. Otherwise, it’s laboring. Ah, semantics!

  44. Athenian says:

    After watching the first four games, one really has to question the Yankees baseball acumen. Sure there are injuries but that is part game and an organization of the magnitude like the Yankees should have better contingency plans. Loooooooooooooooooong year ahead.

    • Adam says:

      Impressed that you can figure that out from three games and a few innings. Perhaps you should be hired by the front office.

      • Athenian says:

        So what you are saying is you are completely satisfied with all the off season moves and the direction of the team. I guess I expect too much.

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      Yes, every well run team with a higher “baseball Acumen” would still be competitive after loosing their:
      Starting SS
      Starting 3B
      Starting 1B
      Starting CF’er
      Fourth Starter
      Second Starter after 1.1 innings

      • Athenian says:

        Honestly, if each of those positions had legitimate players you would be right. But with what you described, 3 of those missing are hurting the Yankees right now. The other three no so much.

  45. Eddard says:

    Oh my god…no please. Not Nuney.

  46. Adam says:

    Ugh, you have got to be kidding me.

  47. JLC 776 says:

    Hey, another injury!

  48. 28 this year says:

    This has to be some sort of joke.

  49. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

    Seems like it may be a fractured arm.

    Okay, you can’t blame the Yankees for this at all. He’s one of our youngest players.

    • CUYanks says:

      Seemed to hit him in the chest. Maybe ribs?

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

        He was holding his arm when he came off. The announcers seemed to think it bounced off of his chest and hit his arm.

        • CUYanks says:

          Maybe. But sometimes you might hold something in place because something else is broken. Collarbone even. Let’s just hope he got the wind knocked out and he has a bruise.

          • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

            With our luck, he’ll need chest AND arm reconstructive surgery.

  50. ClayDavis says:


  51. RetroRob says:

    So who is Nix’s backup?

  52. jjyank says:

    Hey, MLBN. Shut the fuck up about Hamilton getting boo’d and put the Yankee game back on!


  53. Eddard says:

    Anybody but Nuney. Now what are we going to do.

  54. Pat D says:

    Is Dante writing this shit?

  55. Jersey Joe says:

    As a Nuney hater, I never thought I would be begging for him to be OK.

  56. Hoss says:

    Who else on the 40-man plays SS besides Nunez and Nix (and Jeter, of course)?

  57. giuseppe says:

    Seriously? When is Ashton Kutcher going to come out of the dugout.

  58. RetroRob says:

    So is there a rule now that all Yankee shortstops must suffer injuries while playing the Tigers?

  59. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

    Man. I’m just going to say it. Right now, our lineup sucks.

  60. JLC 776 says:

    Was that a pitcher we just had at bat? That was awful.

  61. Eddard says:

    Well, I’m afraid that losing Eduardo Nuney is the straw that will break the camels back. If he’s out for a long period of time we’re going to struggle to win 5 games in April. Nova’s doing his best to keep us in the ballgame but it won’t be enough.

    • trr says:

      i keep saying what next, and then something else bad happens, I’m gonna keep my fat trap shut from now on

  62. Celerino Sanchez says:

    Yanks had a chance to get Fister when he was eventually traded to Tigers. Not sure what they don’t like about him. Don’t think the Tigers gave up a ton.

    If Nix needs to play for an extended time we’re in deep do-do. Even Nunez haters can see that he’s much better than Nix.

    • trr says:

      Celerino Sanchez would be a better option
      hope it’s not serious

      • Hoss says:

        Celerino played 3B. The shortstops back then were Frank Baker and Stick Michael, as I recall.

        Let’s hope that Nuney’s OK. It looked like he was holding his arm, but the ball hit him in the chest. If Yuniesky Betancourt dons a Yankee uniform, we’ll be in deep deep.

        • Celerino Sanchez says:

          I’d take Yuniesky over Nix. Just don’t think he brings much other than truly “MEH” versatility.

  63. Cuso says:

    This slate of early games on a Friday pisses me off.

    So, yeah, I did it. I left work at 2pm for “no” reason.

  64. LarryM Fl says:

    Down goes Nunez, what a wonderful start to the season. I hope its just a bone bruise. I was hoping to see the game get some playing with Jeter on the DL.

  65. Bryan says:

    The only thing missing from this inept team right now is Harry Doyle doing the commentary with a bottle of Jack in hand.

  66. Kramerica Industries says:

    Get some runs here.

  67. Kramerica Industries says:

    Runs any way you can get them.

  68. jjyank says:

    I’ll take whatever we can get. Thanks Fister.

  69. jjyank says:


  70. Kramerica Industries says:


  71. CashmanNinja says:

    Ok, a wild pitch scores a run and then a 2 run blast. I’ll take runs anyway we can get ‘em!

  72. Jimmy says:

    Youk haters where yall at?

  73. Cy Pettitte says:


  74. Adam says:


  75. flamingo says:

    Oh my god, what was that HR call?! My ears are bleeding.

    But hey, maybe the luck’s turning our way!

    • Adam says:

      Oh goodness, what was it?

    • RetroRob says:

      No one ever likes Sterling’s HR calls for new players, and then people love ‘em. We hear a Nuke from Youk thirty times this year, we’ll love it.

      • flamingo says:

        Eh, I’ll love the HR. Don’t think I’ll ever love the call. I still cringe at that Cisco kid stuff (not that we hear that too often).

        Sterling has his kitschy stuff, and then he has the just-plain-awful stuff.

  76. Cuso says:

    Atta fuckin boy, Youk. Now I’m GLAD I left work!

  77. Cool Lester Smooth says:


  78. JLC 776 says:

    Very nice!

  79. Hoss says:

    Fistah! You forgot: You’re not pitching to the “Yankees” today. Youk!

  80. Mandy Stankiewicz says:

    It’s a NUKE from YOUK!
    (first time hearing sterling deliver that!)

  81. forensic says:

    Way to go You kilos!

    Yes, that is the iPhone autocorrect for him…

  82. Celerino Sanchez says:

    C’mon Boesch, pay them back for releasing you.

  83. ClayDavis says:

    That was one of the worst homerun calls in baseball history.. (Sterling)

  84. trr says:

    Ah John Sterling!

  85. Bryan says:

    OK Nova. Just get through at least another inning…ideally two and all will be right in the world.

  86. Hoss says:

    Straight from the PC Police:

    You cannot use any terminology involving weaponry in sports (or life) anymore, so Sterling is in a heap of trouble. Remember the “Baltimore Bullets”? Hit a bit too close to home.

    No more A-Bombs from A-Rod either. But we knew we wouldn’t have much to worry about in that regard anyway.

    • flamingo says:

      I’m fairly certain Matsui once hit a HR and Sterling mixed up the calls and said “An A-bomb! From – Matsui!”

      Which was… not ideal.

  87. Celerino Sanchez says:

    Again. Three straight fast balls to the #9 hitter! No more Stewart!!!

  88. Kramerica Industries says:

    Nova willing and able to give these runs right back.

  89. Stratman9652 says:

    Nova is gonna give the lead right back isn’t he?

  90. Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

    Maybe Nunez’s injury will disturb his throwing motion to first… which might result in fewer errors. Too soon?

  91. Celerino Sanchez says:

    Need a DP grounder from Hunter.

  92. Stratman9652 says:

    Please don’t let him face Miggy

  93. Eddard says:

    Bend don’t break. Nova’s doing one hell of a job without his best stuff.

  94. jjyank says:

    That sounded like it hurt.

    Nova, if you injured my first round pick, I’m going to be pissed.

  95. Celerino Sanchez says:

    Pass me the hook, please.

  96. JLC 776 says:

    It’s petty and spiteful, but I feel good seeing us wound someone for once.

  97. jjyank says:

    Fuck you Boone.

  98. Cool Lester Smooth says:

    God fucking dammit.

  99. JLC 776 says:

    Fuck that.

  100. sangreal says:

    well that went well

  101. Kramerica Industries says:

    I’m so glad the LOOGY did his job.

  102. jdp says:

    I hate all the references to your fantasy teams. Nobody gives a duck.

  103. flamingo says:

    Well then.

  104. WhittakerWalt says:

    Thanks, LOOGY.

  105. Eddard says:

    Boone Logan is garbage. Way to get out the only man you’re hired to get out.

  106. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

    Raise your hand if you’re even remotely surprised.

    *Nobody raises hand*

  107. Luis Castillo (Not the one who dropped the ball) says:

    So much for a leftie specialist. Fuck.

  108. CashmanNinja says:

    I hate how much confidence Girardi has in Boone Logan. He’s Girardi’s version of Scott Proctor.

    • Hoss says:

      Great decision to go with one lefty in the pen who can surely pitch in 100 games.

    • i like bacon says:

      joe with his lefty against lefty. worked out well. i wonder if he writes it in his little book how many times it doesnt work. i dont have enough beer to watch this. heading for the store.

  109. Celerino Sanchez says:

    Oh well the lead was nice while it lasted! 2/3 of an inning.

  110. King George says:

    So glad Boone Fucking Logan is a Yankees. Winner.

  111. forensic says:

    As some of us said after opening day, Logan scares the crap out of us still. Apparently Girardi disagreed, unfortunately.

  112. ClayDavis says:

    This season has not been very fun.

  113. Raymond Freemont says:

    Not shocked by that result at all. Awesome job Boone.

  114. WhittakerWalt says:

    Chris Stewart, awesome pitch-framer.

  115. Jorge Brosada says:

    And pitching is supposed to be our strength? Disgusted by what I’ve seen today so far

  116. MannyGeee says:

    Boone Logan… Gets. Leftys. Out.

  117. vicki says:

    they’re not booing; they’re saying “boooooooone.”

    no. they’re booing.

  118. Mark L. says:

    Good thing we released Rapada – Logan is awful

  119. Athenian says:

    Seriously, who did not see that coming? A staple of the past two year, get a lead and see how quickly it can be given up.


    • Stratman9652 says:

      Why do you follow the Yankees if you hate them so much? I will never understand the troll mentality. How somebody gets his jollies off of a team he claims to be a fan of doing badly so that he can bitch about them on a message board will never make sense to me.

  120. WhittakerWalt says:

    John Flaherty: “Fielder’s looking for something out over the plate”


  121. teddy says:

    no point in playing det can’t beat them

  122. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

    Should be interesting, a bad lineup vs. a bad bullpen. It’s like the unstoppable force vs. the unmovable object, but in reverse.

  123. Celerino Sanchez says:

    Other than DRob and Mo, not so sure this bullpen is all that it’s cracked up to be. Eppley is worthless, Joba is still recovering, Logan was overworked to the point of exhaustion last year, Warren, eh?

  124. trr says:


  125. The Doctor says:

    Nix can’t pick up an easy ground ball o start the inning, Nova can’t avoid hitting a guy when he’s got 2 strikes on him, and Logan can’t do his only job. Just fantastic all around.

  126. Bryan says:

    Boone failed…but dear god what in the world was Prince swinging at? That ball was neck high!

  127. BigBlueAL says:

    At least the pitching staff is a strength of the Yankees.

  128. trr says:

    you’re rustling my jimmies

  129. WhittakerWalt says:

    So… can Boone Logan get anyone out?

  130. Dalek Jeter says:

    Smyly, good move because we’re very Lefty heavy.

  131. Hoss says:

    Cashman’s note to self:

    Need lefty who won’t throw ball at big fat guy’s eye level. Check with Hal to make sure this and last month’s laundry expenses are OK.

  132. WhittakerWalt says:

    Do the Yankees even put another man on base, or do they just slink away with tail between legs?

  133. Jorge Brosada says:

    Can the yankees score 2 more runs? If the lineup scores anymore they will have already met this week’s quota

  134. trr says:

    I’m getting a bad feeling about Suzuki

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      Me too.

    • Celerino Sanchez says:

      Like he was juiced to come here last year because the playoffs were in sight and now it’s kind of feeling like Seattle again?

      Yeah, that’s a worry!

    • MannyGeee says:

      slow start. that would concern me more if he wasn’t 40 and if he was the ONLY one not hitting.

      Cano being 1/10 worries me more, to be honest. All that gallivanting and carousing with Jay Z instead of getting ready for baseball and all that…

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        Even in past seasons Cano would go through periods where he swung at everything and got himself out. Now that he’s the only true threat in the lineup AND he’s playing for a contract… it could get worse. Or he could be great.
        Ichiro’s old, though. SSS with the Yanks last year, he was pretty good. But he’s been trending downward for several years, and he might just be done.

  135. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

    With our lineup, the odds are it’s game over.

  136. Cool Lester Smooth says:

    Well, I’m glad we don’t have the Tigers lineup.

    They just hit way too many homers.

  137. Pinkie Pie says:


  138. Jorge Brosada says:

    Our bullpen is horrible. Montgomery, Burawa, Kahnle, etc can’t come fast enough…

  139. MannyGeee says:

    Alex Avila is not this good. I am starting to question the release of David Aardsma

  140. Athenian says:

    positives: Yanks have not been shut out this season AND if they can keep the other team from scoring more than 3 runs, they have a shot.

  141. MannyGeee says:

    Bruised Right Bicep, x Rays negative for Nunie. In case they didn’t announce it on TV.

  142. Darren says:

    Sterling: “I have no medical knowledge so I have no idea what a bruised bicep is.”

    Let me give you a hint. It’s when your bicep is bruised.


  143. Patrick says:

    Pettitte’s performance aside–the pitching has sucked ass thus far.

    Talk about the “lineup” all you want–but this pitching staff is the big problem right now. Not good enough.

    • jjyank says:

      It’s not a problem yet. CC will be fine, Kuroda got hit with a come backer. Nova worries me, and Phelps hasn’t pitched yet. We’ll see.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I agree.

        I don’t worry about CC, as a rule. It’s hard to give Kuroda anything but an “incomplete,” and I consider Warren’s outing something to be happy about. I’m not surprised by what we’re seeing out of Nova. I’d clearly rather it be Hughes in there right now.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      The lineup isn’t good enough to pick up the pitching staff, either.

    • vicki says:

      30th in whip, lol.

      i know, sample size, sample size.

  144. Anderson Silva says:

    This pitching-centric stuff does not look good so far.

  145. Patrick says:

    I’m including the bullpen too when talking about the pitching.

    Bullpen has been spotty–at best.

  146. Celerino Sanchez says:

    Am I the only one who thinks Gardner’s a dog? Really great in the field but just a low average hitter with great speed that gets wasted because he’s not a great base stealer? Over-powered so far this season on fastballs.

    As a #9 hitter he’s fine. Lead-off he’s awful.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      He can’t bunt, either.

      • CashmanNinja says:

        Gardner laid down a great bunt last night, but the 3B happened to look like Scott Brosius on the play and throw him out.

        • Celerino Sanchez says:

          Isolated case. It was the second game against Boston and I’m not sure that he should have bunted considering how far in Middlebrooks was. Emphasizes my point exactly. He might be “toolsy” but never seems to get it right on offense.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      No, but thatnks for again proving my point as to anything referencing Celerino Sanchez.

  147. Pinkie Pie says:

    Robbie looks like ass.

    • Athenian says:

      And yet, he will still get $25 mil a year in yet another panic move by the Yankees.

      • jjyank says:

        How is signing the best second baseman on the planet a panic move?

        • yeayo says:

          Because the Yankees can’t afford another long term deal to a player who is 30.

          • jjyank says:

            You don’t know that. We don’t know how long his deal will be, which prospects can cheaply fill in around him, etc.

            My point is that retaining the best player on the team is not a panic move.

        • Athenian says:

          still get $25 mill a year in a panic move.

          Not the signing. Over paying is the panic move.

          • jjyank says:

            Cano isn’t worth $20-25 mil a year? Pretty sure a lot of MLB teams would disagree with you.

          • MannyGeee says:

            Again, you don’t know that the overpay is a panic move. You assume its an overpay, but if multiple buyers are looking to pay the same price, then I would say the market sets that price. That, by definition, is not an overpay.

      • Pinkie Pie says:

        C’mon, he looks like shit now but he’s the best 2B in baseball still. Don’t blame the fact that he’s going to get a 9 figure contract on him, blame the massive inflation going on the baseball market right now.

  148. jjyank says:


  149. Jimmy says:

    Man Fuck this team.

  150. Celerino Sanchez says:

    Yeah. Hitting so many home runs just makes the game less fun.

  151. WhittakerWalt says:

    OK, back to work.

  152. Eric says:


  153. Patrick says:

    Right in his wheelhouse.

    This pitching staff is garbage

  154. WhittakerWalt says:

    I hate the Tigers more than I hate the Red Sox.
    There I said it.

  155. BigBlueAL says:

    Scherzer and Verlander next 2 games, gonna take a mini miracle to avoid a sweep this weekend.

  156. Robinson Tilapia says:

    So where were half the dipshits on this thread last night when the team was winning?

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      Losing is frustrating. Losing to your eternal nemesis is nightmarish.

    • Pinkie Pie says:

      Probably the same place they are today. But they had no reason to vent their frustration yesterday.

      • jjyank says:

        Are they incapable of expressing happiness then?

      • Robinson Tilapia says:


        • WhittakerWalt says:

          I can only speak for myself, but I try to participate in every game thread good or bad. When they’re playing well I’m ecstatic. When they’re playing like they are today, I get pretty angry. It’s emotion. I know it’s a long season and all, but when you’re in the moment and the team is playing like shit it’s hard to take the “big picture” view.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            Sure. That doesn’t account for half the bullshit you read on these negative game threads……and, with this team clearly not in the strongest of places, what the hell are they going to do all season? Nothing is going to come easy this year.

            I know my panties are plenty reinforced already.

            • WhittakerWalt says:

              I just don’t think you can ever expect measured, rational responses in a live game thread.
              Obviously some of these people are a lot more trollish than others, but it’s going to get pretty dismal around here.

              • Robinson Tilapia says:

                This isn’t a bar where you turn to your buddy and go “look at this fucking prick” when someone strikes out. It’s an internet message board that actually once prided itself on, not just burrito jokes, but having a smarter caliber of fan that saw beyond all this. That’s what got a lot of us here. Also, the free wings, but that CLEARLY left with Joe and Ben.

                • WhittakerWalt says:

                  This place is actually better than most message boards I’ve checked out, even still.
                  What can you do? Trolls will be trolls, and you can’t really keep them out.

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      I was at my friends house getting high and listening to Janis Joplin. (I’m not joking)

    • Steve says:

      So can the Yankees not take a picture and frame this win? Dare I even ask if Yankees baseball has gone away again?

  157. Athenian says:

    I had secretly hoped they Yankees would start off really good and shut up all the laughing haters. Clearly that is not going to happen.

    At this point, a 3rd place finish would be a huge success.

    Do you think Hal has hit the panic button?

  158. Raymond Freemont says:

    Did someone say Kelley was good? If they did they are morons.

    • Celerino Sanchez says:

      That would be me. Not sure I’m a moron but if you say so it must be true.

    • Pinkie Pie says:

      It’s one freaking game.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      We haven’t seen enough of him. He’s probably, as most ass-end-of-the-bullpen guys are, extremely fungible and, if you pitch them enough, extremely likely to be quickly exposed.

      I wasn’t counting on him to be the heir to Mo.

  159. Patrick says:

    I know I said yesterday that I would wait at least 20 games before I would panic…..I might have to amend that to 4 games….

    Holy shit this team looks bad. Ugh.

  160. trr says:

    Patience and Forbearance.

    Keep Repeating to myself.

  161. WhittakerWalt says:

    Yanks have three more outs to work with, otherwise they’ll prove my prediction correct.

  162. Pinkie Pie says:

    Fun, Fun, Fun, Fun, Fun, looking forward to the we-eekend.

  163. Robinson Tilapia says:

    “Good” Ivan Nova is such a cocktease. As much as we want a future plan to depend on him, I dont exactly know how much it should. The room for error with Banuelos and Pineda is much smaller than it should be going into next season.

    That’s going to be a hell of a test of the “189, but being competitive comes first” talk.

    Notice how I said that without hyperbole.

  164. hey now says:

    Set phasers to meh.

  165. TomH says:

    No need to panic YET. Detroit is just a far better team than the one the Yankees are currently fielding.

    Unfortunately, it’s a better team than the one the Yankees will field when the wounded return. If the latter team played the Tigers 25 times, I suspect the Tigers would win at least 15. If Detroit played the current team 25 times, they would probably win 20.

  166. Greg says:

    3 good starters (CC, Andy and Kuroda), 2 good relievers (Mo and Rob) and 3 good hitters (Youk, Gardner and Cano). That’s 8 good players. The rest are entirely interchangeable. That’s not a playoff team. Even with the injured guys, who are more names than anything else.

    • King George says:

      So Granderson and Teixeira aren’t factors? Same with Pineda? Ok, thanks for that Greg. Glad we have this established.

  167. Pinkie Pie says:

    That Dikembe Mutombo commercial was amazing.

  168. sirineedyoutocalmdown says:

    take 4 starters out of any team and they would look like this. everyone on Detroit’s D right now…lets see them without Cabrera and Fielder. be realistic people

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      I think we are being realistic. We all KNOW why the team’s not very good. This isn’t like the ALCS last year when our great lineup forgot how to hit. This current team stinks.
      Having the knowledge doesn’t make this process any easier.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Of course. You have to widen the lens here. In some ways, some of this has to happen in order for the team to figure out what its identity moving forward is.

      These wins and losses, without the regulars, also aren’t being graded on a curve, and it’s hard to tell some of the more spoiled fanbase to look beyond wins and losses.

      • Manny's BanWagon says:

        it’s hard to tell some of the more spoiled fanbase to look beyond wins and losses.

        What makes it hard to look beyond wins and loses is the majority of this team isn’t even gonna be around 2-3 years from now. It would be one thing to accept taking your lumps playing a bunch of kids building for the future but this team aside from a few guys is on the opposite end of the spectrum. The best we can hope for is to not be too far out of the race when the reinforcement (hopefully) come back healthy and productive.

        Right now, if the Yankees give up 4 or more runs, it’s pretty much game over and that’s tough to watch.

  169. paranoid says:

    It’s over, the season’s over. give up you guys!

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