Game Nine: Avoid the Rain (UPDATE: Game postponed)


For the first time in 2013, it looks like the weather may interfere with a Yankees game. The forecast in Cleveland calls for rain tonight, though it appears there might be just enough of a window to squeeze nine innings in. I’ll settle for a rain-shortened five-inning win if I have to.

The Yankees do not come back to Cleveland at all this year, so if tonight’s game is indeed postponed due to weather, they’ll either have to play a doubleheader tomorrow or lose an off-day at some point later in the summer. Since it’s so early in the season, I’d rather just play the two games tomorrow if it comes to that. Call up the 26th man (Cody Eppley?) and get it over with. Hopefully they can play tonight and all of this is moot. Here’s the lineup…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. 2B Robinson Cano
  3. 3B Kevin Youkilis
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. LF Vernon Wells
  6. RF Brennan Boesch
  7. SS Eduardo Nunez
  8. 1B Lyle Overbay
  9. C Chris Stewart

And on the mound is the most frustrating pitcher in the rotation, Ivan Nova.

Tonight’s game is scheduled to start at 7:05pm ET and can be seen on YES locally and ESPN2 nationally, but again, the weather may throw a wrench into that. Enjoy the game if they do play.

Phil Hughes News: Hughes is battling a nasty stomach bug according to Joe Girardi and might not be able to pitch as scheduled on Thursday. If he can’t go, it’ll be either Adam Warren or David Phelps.

Update (6:43pm): The game will not start on time and we are in a “holding pattern.” Not sure what that means, but okay.

Update (7:55pm): The game has been postponed. No word on the makeup date yet, but there will not be a doubleheader tomorrow. That means both teams will lose an off-day at since point and the Yankees will have to trek back to Cleveland. Sucks. Use this as an open thread instead.

Categories : Game Stories


  1. Eddard says:

    Good to see Boesch in the lineup, hope he hits a HR. Osh Kosh B’Boesch! BB hits a BB! He can’t be any worse than Ichiro. I think when Granderson returns Ichiro will hit the bench but at least he’ll still be making money to line Hal’s pockets.

  2. vicki says:

    rainy forecast tomorrow too so i gues we really need to hope for playable conditions tonight.

    if the game is ppd, though, i want them all to go kick it at haf’s house again.

    • MB923 says:

      It’s going to rain Friday too in NY, but it will mostly rain in the day and I think it will clear by night time and they’ll play ball Friday.

      I really hope so cause I”ll be there.

  3. MB923 says:

    Sorry to ask a dumb question, but since when were there allowed to be 26 players on the roster for a double header?

    And I assume after the 2nd game, somebody has to get sent back down? And I assume you can only send down a player who has options left.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Rule changed just before the season started in…2011? For some reason I’ve got it locked in my head that it was before the new CBA.

      • MB923 says:

        Thanks. I know it’s not the most reliable source but I’m sure Wiki has it right

        Beginning in the 2012 season, teams were allowed 26-man rosters for scheduled “day-night” doubleheaders—two games scheduled on the same day, but with the stadium cleared between games, and separate tickets sold for each game.[1]

        The only thing I wonder though is does sending the 26th player back down use 1 of his options. My guess would be no though.

        • trr says:

          That is correct MB…good question about the option, does anyone know?

          • MB923 says:

            My guess would be it does not use an option. Since the new rules states you can use an extra player for 1 day, I don’t think it would count as using an option assuming the same player is sent back down.

            • forensic says:

              It’s 4AM, so maybe I’m missing something, but the option thing would seem to be a moot point to me.

              Each year is an option, not each time a player goes up and down. So, since the 26th man has to be someone on the 40-man roster, if the player in the minors then they already used an option to send him there in the first place. For example, say they called up Melky Mesa, they already used his option year this year to send him down at the end of ST, so calling him up again doesn’t make a difference.

              I would sort of wonder about vet’s on a minor league deal who have enough service time to give them extra rights, but that’s not a huge deal since there would probably be so many different situations to change the rules.

              But really, all of this doesn’t matter anyway because the 26th man wouldn’t come into affect if they played the double-header Thursday. Part of the rule is that the DH needs to be schedule more than one day in advance. So, if Tuesday was rained out and rescheduled for a DH on Thursday, then it would be available, but after tonight’s rainout. That part of the rule is to avoid giving a big advantage to the home team with their much closer affiliates.

  4. Q says:

    What does Cervelli have to do to get more playing time? It’s clear he’s a better offensive option than Stewart.

    • The Real Greg says:

      Cervelli has played in 6 of the 8 games so far and started 5 games in which he did not come out.

      That’s a pretty normal ratio for a starting catcher

      • forensic says:

        Starting 5 out of 8 games is equivalent to 101 over the course of the season. That’s not normal for a regular starting catcher.

        And, if they had played this one it would’ve been 5 out of 9 games which is 90 over the course of a season.

        That means Chris freaking Stewart would’ve been on pace to start 72(!!!) games this year.

        I do think eventually Cervelli will get more games, but that can’t start soon enough.

    • A says:

      What Havok said.

  5. MB923 says:

    That sucks about Hughes. If the game gets rained out tonight then no need to worry about Hughes (unless there’s a double header tomorrow)

  6. Havok9120 says:

    I’m really hoping they get this in. I need a baseball distraction.

  7. Havok9120 says:

    Rangers lost and the Tigers blew it.


    I can’t decide whether to root for Boston or Baltimore. Short term outlook says Baltimore, long term…I honestly don’t know.

  8. Dalek Jeter says:

    I hate rain delays more than just about anything in the world.

  9. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

    Francesa is a fucking idiot.

    He kept asking “What pitchers, what seasons were as dominant as Koufax’s five years?”

    When somebody pointed out Pedro he practically laughed at them.

    Really, Mike? Let’s review:

    Best ERA of their career:

    Pedro, 1.74, 2000
    Koufax, 1.73, 1966

    Number of runs scored in their respective leagues those years:

    2000 AL-11995

    1966 NL-6624

    I mean, come on. That’s nuts.

    But forget that. Let’s compare the ERA+ of their top five years, so it’s scaled to league average pitching.

    Pedro’s: 219, 243, 291, 202, 211

    Koufax’s: 143, 159, 186, 160, 190

    My hair is a bird, Francesa. A FUCKING BIRD. Your argument is invalid.


    • wheels says:

      Ever see the fake Francesa twitter account? It’s hilarious.

    • Luis Castillo (Not the one who dropped the ball) says:

      Yeah, I hate Pedro, and allways will, but when you include the environment, his is the highest peak for a pitcher so far, IMO.

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        You guys are missing the point though. Koufax did it when men were men, and some other such nonsense.

        • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

          I mean, after hearing the litany of people who agreed with him I almost have to believe that Koufax was overrated.

          Pedro deserved the same type of respect and adulation but he was overshadowed by the batshit insane offense of the era.

          I mean, when people told him to look into Walter Johnson and Christy Mathewson he literally didn’t even consider them worth it to look into. I MAY have misunderstood, but I THINK he implied that Koufax dominated the league more than Babe Ruth did.

          Babe Ruth. Who out-homered every team in the league except for the one with the 280 foot OF wall. He was maybe five or so HRs behind that team.

          I mean, Koufax was great, but NOBODY can be that great.

        • Cool Lester Smooth says:

          Not to mention that he had way more WINZ!!

          Seriously though, it’s actually pretty close in terms of WAR because Koufax was throwing ~275 innings a year while Pedro was throwing ~200.

          • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

            Possibly, but saying that nobody was near Koufax while ignoring a pitcher who was definitely as good in his best years and in all likelihood better is asinine.

            And he didn’t even bother considering Johnson Mathewson-right nor not, that’s ridiculous.

            • Cool Lester Smooth says:

              Oh, Pedro was still better. If anything the fact that Koufax was less valuable in so many more innings makes Pedro’s run even more impressive.

    • MB923 says:

      There weren’t as many teams back then as there are now. But offense was still better in 2000 than 1966

      Nonetheless, we all know Francesca is an idiot

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

        The offense was WAY better in 2000. I couldn’t find RPG unfortunately, but when Koufax was pitching was when the umpires were famously told to widen their strike zones because hitting was becoming too easy (and interestingly, earlier in his career Koufax struggled with control). 2000 was the height of the steroid era.

        Even if the offense is only a small amount better Pedro STILL has much better stats than Koufax. The peak of Pedro’s career is probably the greatest peak of every pitcher ever.

        • MB923 says:

          Oh I’m not arguing that at all. Just wanted to point out that the runs scored stat is a little bit misleading. But yes, offense was still way better in 2000.

          • OldYanksFan says:

            Pedro also pitched on a lower mound.

            • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

              Also true.

              • Evan3457 says:

                Koufax: No DH, higher mound, bigger strike zone (especially at the top where he feasted with his high fastball), and above all, none (or far less) steroid/HGH usage.

                In Koufax’ favor was the much heavier workload. In his last 4 years, Koufax threw about 20% of the Dodgers’ innings. In Pedro’s 6 big years, he threw about 14% of the Expos’ and Red Sox’ innings.

                Call it even, and call it a day.

                • Evan3457 says:

                  Oh, almost forgot

                  Koufax: Dodger Stadium
                  Pedro: Fenway Park (5 years out of 6)

                • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

                  How does that make it even? In more innings with easier hitters, strike zone, and mound to work with, Pedro was STILL better. I mean, innings matter…but it’s not like Pedro slacked off either.

                  I mean, granted, they’re pretty damn close but still.

  10. Ethan says:

    It’s exam time here at university and i’ve let my dishes pill up (no dishwasher sucks!). I was hoping to have a Yankees game to watch while doing them.

    • Havok9120 says:

      My only other real option is to read for school. Tonight’s lineup includes reading a research paper on the ’76 protests in South Africa and some primary sources from the closing phases of the Roman Republic.


      • Ethan says:

        What are you studying? History or maybe political science or maybe sociology? Or I could be way off.

        • Mykey says:

          Ancient Egyptian Algebra.

        • Havok9120 says:

          History major, Poli Sci minor.

          My focus in the history department is Early Modern Europe however, which means that these two sets of readings don’t really do it for me. :p

          • Ethan says:

            Cool. My second major is Poli Sci. What time period in Europe would that be?

            • Havok9120 says:

              Call it 1480-1815 at the extremes. I’ve got other specialties but they don’t interest me as much and they are much more narrowly focused.

              My Master’s/PhD. specialty is either going to end up being Early Modern Germany (Brandenburg-Prussia, primarily) or general military/political history. It’ll depend on if I can get my German up to snuff to do primary research in the language.

              • The Oberamtmann says:

                I’m finishing my Early Modern German PhD sometime this or next (probably next) year.

                Just a warning: the job market is seriously awful.

                • vicki says:

                  you could always open an early modern german store; trauerspiele-R-us, maybe.

                • Havok9120 says:

                  I know. Sigh.

                  General military history is somewhat more in demand since I can use that as a wedge into ancient/medieval history in pretty much any area. Early Modern is harder to make stick.

              • Cool Lester Smooth says:

                Do you prefer Frederick William or Frederick the Great?

                • Evan3457 says:

                  It sure as hell ain’t Frederick Weis.

                • Havok9120 says:

                  Hmmm. I assume you mean Frederick the Great’s father? The Soldier King?

                  Probably Frederick the Great, but not by much. Those four rulers from the Great Elector to Frederick the Great is one of the best series of rulers any European dynasty manages to crank out. Hard to go wrong with any of them. Even Frederick III/I, the guy who formally establishes the Kingdom (kinda) had a lot of strengths. The Soldier King is a pretty awesome figure and is responsible for building Prussia into a power that could compete (albeit in a limited fashion) on the level of the Great Powers….yeah. It’s a really tough call between those two.

                  • Cool Lester Smooth says:

                    I’m a Soldier King man myself, but my all time favorite 18th century despot has gotta be Peter the Great. The man was basically the Charlemagne of Russia.

      • Mykey says:

        Yikes. Just finished a thesis paper on guerrilla insurgency in Uruguay. Now I have to prepare for a commission presentation on insurgency in Colombia (seeing a trend here…). Was hoping to practice my presentation while watching the game. Change of plans I guess.

        • Havok9120 says:

          Ouchy. South America…blech.

          • Mykey says:

            My mother’s side of the family is from Venezuela. So I’ve got some vested interest.

            • Havok9120 says:

              I understand. That continent has just never gotten close to any of my interests. We do have a fairly impressive Latin American Studies department here at Tulane and I’m friends with several of it’s members in both the History and Poli Sci departments. Just not my thing.

              • Mykey says:

                I feel ya. I’m graduating in May. I’m hoping to go into the intelligence field after school. CIA, DIA, State Department, what have you.

              • Cool Lester Smooth says:

                Word, I might be transferring to Tulane in the fall (still waiting on a couple other schools before I make my decision)

                The American Studies program looks pretty sick too.

                • Havok9120 says:

                  All of our programs dealing with this hemisphere are at least good, at least from what I’ve seen. We’ve also got the two people who pioneered “Atlantic World” studies chilling in our history department and the stuff they produce is pretty good for the connections between Old and New Worlds.

                  The school is pretty sweet in general. I certainly enjoy it. One just needs to be responsible enough to handle school in NOLA.

                  • Cool Lester Smooth says:

                    Yeah, around this time last year I stupidly passed up the Presidential scholarship for less money at Trinity.

                    I’ve pretty much been regretting it since the day it snowed in October.

                    • vicki says:

                      how do you feel about 95 and 100% humidity in october? (i love it but many don’t.)

                    • Cool Lester Smooth says:

                      I don’t care how wet the heat is, I’d rather go have to go shirtless in October than need a parka.

            • dkidd says:

              i was just reading about colombia’s “sword of honor” counterinsurgency op

              the author made the point that colombia’s geography (i.e. mountain ranges) make it impossible for the central government to effectively control the hinterlands

              • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

                Heh heh, hinterlands is a funny word.

              • Mykey says:

                You’re right. Unfortunately, Colombia’s terrain makes insurgency already extraordinarily difficult. Couple that with the immense wealth of FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia – insurgents) due to their involvement in the drug trade, ridiculously poorly conceived counter-insurgency methods (the government once conceded a swath of land the size of Switzerland to the insurgents) and you have an armed insurgency that’s gone on since the early 1960′s. Pretty amazing.

                • Now Batting says:

                  Where are you in school? If you’re interested in foreign policy you really should be in the DC area and doing internships to have the best odds.

            • The Real Me says:

              My wife is from Colombia. Came to the US in about ’69 or ’70. Still has some family there (a sister and a niece).

  11. OldYanksFan says:

    From ESPN:

    Cano is the first major league player with at least three extra-base hits in consecutive games since 2005 –- also by Cano. The only other Yankee to accomplish the feat was Lou Gehrig in 1936.

    If he can get three extra-base hits Wednesday, the Elias Sports Bureau confirms that he would be the first player in baseball’s modern era (since 1900) with three extra-base hits in three straight games.

    • forensic says:

      I just love looking at his line over the 3 day span.


      Almost .700 points of OPS gained in 2 games? Gotta love early season numbers!

  12. wheels says:

    They’re not gonna play any time soon according to that YES weather report.

  13. Anderson Silva says:

    Has anyone talked about a start time?

  14. OldYanksFan says:

    Chad Jennings is NOT very optimistic that they will get this game in. 60-80% chance of Rain all night.

  15. dkidd says:

    only god can slow down this offense

  16. Kramerica Industries says:

    …aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand shitcanned.

    Good night.

  17. MB923 says:

    Game is postponed

  18. Dalek Jeter says:

    We’re cancelled :(

  19. The Real Greg says:

    That explains why the ballpark looks closed. The power is out in Cleveland.

    Just postpone the game and get the power ready for tomorrow

  20. And in merrie olde England says:

    Greatttttt, not looking good for tomorrow either

  21. The Real Greg says:

    Looks like the Yankees are going to lose an off day. No doubleheader scheduled.

  22. Havok9120 says:


    Bah says I.

  23. Pasta says:

    Good news for hughes a rain out tomorrow and we have a full pen and rested pitchers for balt series.

  24. My prediction for the makeup game? May 13th (Monday).

    The Indians play in Detroit at 1:05pm on Sunday and then play a 7:05pm game in Philly on Tuesday.

    The Yanks play in Kansas City at 1:05pm on Sunday and then play in the Bronx vs Seattle at 7:05pm on Tuesday.

  25. forensic says:

    They’re going to skip Nova this time through the rotation now, unless he needs to start for Hughes tomorrow.

    Not too bad an idea.

  26. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

    I was going to post that we actually had audition dates set (which we do!), but my optimism was dampened a couple of hours ago when our music director bailed on us. Two weeks before auditions.

    He’s a volunteer and a great guy who has a good excuse so I don’t blame him, but it does put some more stress on us now.

    • Cool Lester Smooth says:

      That’s rough, buddy.

      Good luck finding a replacement though!

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

        Thanks, much appreciated.

        I’m not too worried about things, I think we’ll be fine, but it’s never fun to have the rug pulled out from under you like that so close to auditions. But you do what you can.

  27. vicki says:

    who besides jay-z says ‘i’d rather be an agent than an owner?’

    • Cool Lester Smooth says:

      He already owns his own record label, and he’s got more money than God. He probably just wants to try something new.

  28. Dale Mohorcic says:

    Tuned in late. Jim Abbott is pitching a heck of a game.

  29. Get Phelps Up says:

    Joel Hanrahan in the AL hasn’t exactly gotten off to a great start.

    • Get Phelps Up says:

      And the sellout streak officially ended too.

      • Cool Lester Smooth says:

        Well, at least Sure Fire Future Superstar Jackie Bradley Jr. has gotten off to a great start!

        What? He’s batting .130?

        • WhittakerWalt says:

          Has Peter Gammons called him a “waterbug” yet?

          • Cool Lester Smooth says:

            He’s not a burner, he’s just an instinctual ballplayer with a great feel for the game, man!

            He’d be gritty if not for a certain accident of circumstance.

        • forensic says:

          But with a .333 OBP.

          He should send CC a thank you card for his horrible performance against him opening day. He’s at a .280 OBP since then.

          And his numbers only get worse the more Yankees games you take out of his line.

      • Tom says:

        It is nice that they now made official what had previously ended I think in Sept 2011. I think even one of the Boston papers had an article on the “selloout” streak and how they were essentially cooking the #’s by the end of 2011.

  30. Evan3457 says:

    “Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while.”

  31. Bob Buttons says:

    Octavio Dotel got hit in the nuts today. Still managed to throw the batter out. What a man.

  32. mko says:

    Just play doubleheaders god dammit! It sucks to lose off-days down the line.
    Not that weather seems to be any better today…

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