Sunday Night Open Thread

Two singles and a homer from Jayson Nix today. (Gregory Shamus/Getty)

Two singles and a homer from Jayson Nix today. (Gregory Shamus/Getty)

For the first time in 14 games, since Game One of the ALDS, the Yankees scored more than four runs this afternoon. They put up a seven spot against Justin Verlander and various relievers this afternoon, winning their second game of the season in six tries. Hopefully they can build on this going forward and string together some wins. Cleveland and a four-game series with Nick Swisher‘s Indians are next on the schedule.

Here is your open thread for the evening, a little earlier than usual because there’s not much of anything going on right now. The ESPN Sunday Night Game is a good one, the Angels at the Rangers (Weaver vs. Darvish). The Devils are also playing and I guess Mad Men returns tonight as well. Never managed to get into that show, though I did give it a few chances. Anyway, talk about whatever you like here. Have at it.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. Pat D says:


  2. The Real Me (Formerly Cris Pengiucci) says:

    Broke down and bought ski boots this weekend. Still have a couple more opportunities to hit the slopes this season (we had a good snow month in March and a lot of the CO resorts still have more than a 4′ base). Definitely planning on doing more skiing over the next few years. There are plenty of good full season lift ticket discounts out here. Just gotta figure out which one is best for me.

    • Barry says:

      Enjoy your snow, I’ll enjoy green things and warm air and continue to pray that winter never comes back.

      • Laz says:

        Yep, I’m just happy it will be 80′s few days this week.

        • Barry says:

          I think they’re predicting mid-70s here in the poconos. I’ll take it, to the bank.

          • The Real Me (Formerly Cris Pengiucci) says:

            We had 60s & 70s here in Colorado Springs Thurs through today. We’re due for a cold snap tomorrow and Tuesday, but it’ll warm up again by Wednesday, into the 50s. And, as usual, very low humidity.

          • TomH says:

            I used to hunt deer in the Poconos. Great country around there.

      • jjyank says:

        Screw that. MOAR SNOW!

        • Barry says:

          No, MOAR BASEBALL>>>>MOAR SNOW. Nothing I like to do is doable in the winter/snow.

          • jjyank says:

            Well I’m an avid snowboarder. One of the few things in life I’m better at than almost anyone else with minimal effort. My body is also weird and literally immune to the cold. I barely even wear jackets during winter. The summer, however, I sweat my balls off like crazy. And yet I actually moved south 10 months ago.

            I’d love to have both MOAR BASEBALL and MOAR SNOW, however. That would be my dream world.

            • The Real Me (Formerly Cris Pengiucci) says:

              Yeah, well, in CO we can get snow in the mountains and have 65 – 70 degree weather along the front range. I do, however, miss the green of the east coast. It’s awfully dry around here.

              • Barry says:

                Was just going to say to JJ, go somewhere with extremes in elevation. I for one am the opposite, I can’t tolerate cold and the hot/humid nastiness doesn’t affect me.

      • Havok9120 says:

        I spent the last two weekends on the water with 70-80 degree weather. I, too, am perfectly happy without snow.

        I really do miss my skiing though. :/

        • The Real Me (Formerly Cris Pengiucci) says:

          I went years without skiing, due to my daughter’s competitive ice hockey schedule which, literally kept us traveling around the US and parts of Canada for like 6 years. After skiing last weekend, I’m ready to get back to it. It’s time for me now, as my daughter is finishing up her second year of college.

          Also time to start looking into that Porsche Cayman or Audi S4 (only half joking. Maybe it’ll be an A4 or Infiniti G37xS.).

  3. BigBlueAL says:

    Missed most of the Yankee game thanks to watching the Knicks/Thunder game but have to say this was a really nice win for the Yankees. I was able to watch Nix’s HR and Im still in shock lol.

    Gonna be an interesting week with 4 at Cleveland then 3 at home vs the Orioles with CC/Kuroda/Pettitte lined up to pitch that series.

    • Manny's BanWagon says:

      Knicks are unconscious and Melo is en fuego!

      Speaking of the Knicks, Congrats to Bernard King on making the Hall of Fame. Way, way overdue IMO.

    • Havok9120 says:

      It’d be pretty great if the next 7 games go as well as they look like they could.

  4. Ppiddy says:

    I guess the offense wasn’t that bad, eh, Mike? In fact the offensive plug-ins haven’t done so bad. For a team riddled with injuries, I think the offense isn’t as bad as everyone’s going on about like a broken record.

    • Pat D says:

      Except 3.4 runs per game will win you maybe 60 games.

      • Manny's BanWagon says:

        Don’t let your silly facts get in the way of his narrative.

        • ClusterDuck says:

          3.4 runs per game is not a fact, it’s wrong. They’re up to 4.0 rpg.

          • Manny's BanWagon says:

            4 runs per game on average would be 648 for the entire season which in 2012 would have placed them 13th out of 14 teams, ahead of only Seattle.

            • ClusterDuck says:

              When we get Tex, Grandy and Jeter back in May, I wouldn’t be surprised if we do better offensively than last year.

            • Jim Is Bored says:

              So far it hasn’t mattered if we’d averaged 6 runs a game. Problem has been pitching.

              • Manny's BanWagon says:

                You gotta think the pitching is gonna come around though. The hitting is what worries me and I’m concerned about how effective Jeter, Teix and Arod are gonna be when they hopefully return.

                • jjyank says:

                  Agreed. I have faith the pitching will be just fine going forward. But Jayson Nix ain’t gonna be hitting home runs going forward.

                  • Get Phelps Up says:

                    Right about Nix, but Gardner, Cano and Ichiro will inevitably improve and hopefully offset that.

                    • jjyank says:

                      Oh I agree. I’m jus trying to illustrate that I have more faith in the Yankee pitching righting the ship than I do the offense winning games.

                    • Tom says:

                      The problem has been both hitting and pitching; people just choose which one they want to focus on.

                      You can look at an 8-2 score two ways:
                      - Well even if we scored 7 runs we’d have lost (pitching is the problem)
                      - Well even if we allowed just 3 runs we’d have lost (offense is the problem)

                      Both viewpoints are technically correct…and flawed at the same time. Coming into today the Yankees were at or near the bottom of both runs scored and runs allowed in the AL – I don’t know how anyone can call one or the other THE problem early on when clearly they both have been (again early on)

                    • Manny's BanWagon says:

                      My point and I believe JJ’s point was that going forward, we have more confidence in the pitching improving significantly when compared to the hitting.

                      I agree, after 6 games, both have been subpar so far.

                    • Get Phelps Up says:

                      Oh, I agree that the strength of the team going forward is pitching over hitting. There’s never been a doubt about that. I think that so far the offense has slightly underperformed and the pitching has drastically underperformed.

                    • mustang says:

                      Well said above.

                    • jjyank says:

                      Agreed with both Manny and GPU. That’s pretty much what I was trying to say.

                    • Robinson Tilapia says:

                      May the record reflect how most of the Pollyanna regulars actually have quite a sobering opinion of the team.

                • Jim Is Bored says:

                  I certainly hope so. My optimism is based on the pitching not dropping the ball.

              • mustang says:


          • Pat D says:

            My reference was prior to today’s game, obviously. Try again.

      • Barry says:

        E Triple S

      • Kevin S says:

        The 3.4 will go higher–unless, of course, Cano, Gardner, and Ichiro continue to hit in the 100s. Actually, this offense-unlike 2012 can actually get hits with RISP.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

          They are hitting .250 wRISP so far this year. They hit .256 wRISP last year.

          Cano, Gardner, and Ichiro will hit better going forward, but guys like Cervelli, Youkilis, and Wells will eventually hit worse.

    • The Real Me (Formerly Cris Pengiucci) says:

      They still need to do it on a consistent basis just to play .500 ball. I’m not one to say this team has no chance, but even though it’s only a small sample size, I’m not yet convinced they can score more than 4 runs on any sort of regular basis. Certainly hope I’m wrong. Definitely looking forward to some of the regulars returning and producing.

      • Jim Is Bored says:

        Hang on until the cavalry is back. No way this lineup with Tex/Grandy/Jeter and eventually ARod averages <= 4 runs per game.

  5. Eddard says:

    With Kuroda and Andy lined up against a weaker opponent than Detroit there is no reason why they can’t get back to .500.

    Gardner needs to get on base more and Cano needs to start hitting. Youk, Wells, Hafner, Overbay are all doing what is asked of them. As is Cervelli who should be starting 4/5 games at C. But everyone is so focused on the lineup. The key is the pitching. Everyone except CC, Andy, Drob and Mo have been awful. You can win with this lineup if the pitching is good. The Giants won a world series that way.

  6. Bob Buttons says:

    Elsewhere in MLB, the Jays got rocked for 13 runs and 6 homers, with Dickey giving up about half of that. Other than the fact that Middlebrooks hit 3 of them, I’m quite content with the result. Quite satisfying bashing the hopes of those fair-weather fans in Toronto. Screw the Jays and their “fan”base. I’m tired of hearing the uneducated majority of Jays “fans” pretend they know shit and say they will win the WS for sure.

    • Barry says:

      You do know that we’re Yankee fans right? A large percentage of your fellow fans are of the fair weather variety.

      • trr says:

        all present company excepted, of course…

      • TomH says:

        I wouldn’t deny your point about many Yankee fans and fair weather, but the Jays seem to me–based on both Yankee-fan experience and Phillies-fan (near where I grew up)–a special case of fair weather. Raise the question of poor attendance the past years with them and 75% will reply, “I resent the strike and won’t go back.” Nonsense. They resented losing. They MUST have a winner. Only the Leafs can get away for long with losing (forever long!): their “fan base” will eat anything.

        • Bob Buttons says:

          Funny thing. I think the Leafs’ season ticket waiting list is like really long (thousands, if not tens of thousands), while the Jays still have like $2 tickets available. (Not sure about the past few seasons, but it was still available as recent as 2007).

      • Bob Buttons says:

        I don’t really care too much more for them than I do for other strangers. They ditch the team if the going gets tough. I mean, would you care for people who says hello to you on the street but will not bother helping you out with any of your problems?

    • jerry says:

      went to toronto last year to see a yankee game. the fans were there cuz there was no hockey that night. they were all clueless about baseball.

      • Barry says:

        Well hopefully their shiny new team will get some enthusiasm for baseball into Toronto. As far as I’m concerned; however, Montreal PWNS Toronto. Better women, better bars, better everything.

  7. Eddard says:

    I like how people are using runs per game as proof that this team can’t hold serve for a month. They cry SSS when you use one against their argument and then use it themselves when it suits their needs. Jeter, Teixera, Granderson and ARod are the normal 1,4,5,6 hitters correct? So using Detroit as an example let’s take away Austin Jackson, Prince Fielder, Victor Martinez and whoever their 6 hitter is and see if they can produce the same run output.

    • Jim Is Bored says:

      But Eddard, haven’t you heard? Their GM would have had prospects ready to fill the shoes or would have signed every available free agent or made amazing trades.

      Either that or Cabrera is way better than Cano and would have carried the offense himself.

      Or their pitching is clutch and would have pitched 5 shutouts.

      I’m not sure, but there’s definitely an excuse and Detroit would have been 6-0 given the same circumstances.

      • Tom says:

        Comments like this are getting worse than the trolls themselves.

        • Jim Is Bored says:

          Cry me a river. When the trolls go away I’ll stop making fun of them.

          Until then I give zero shits what you think.

          • Tom says:

            And yet you respond?

            When the trolls are here…. you bitch.
            When the trolls aren’t hear… you make up a post and bitch.

            Can you not just enjoy a win and post something positive?

            • Tom says:

              “hear” = here (yeesh….)

            • jjyank says:

              Because they’re not present in this particular thread doesn’t mean that they’re not “here”. Did you read last night’s recap thread? They’re here. Always.

              • Jim Is Bored says:

                Whatever. He’s just whining for whining’s sake. He can have his opinion, but it’s not going to stop me from doing anything.

            • Jim Is Bored says:

              Apparently you’re not here much.

              I’m often accused of being a polyanna and wearing Yankee colored glasses. You won’t find a much more positive person re: the yankees at RAB.

              • Tom says:

                I get responding to the trolls, but why invent shit in advance as opposed to having some real baseball discussion (which is theoretically what you want and the ‘trolls’ are preventing)

                Look at the very first post of Mike’s post about the BA ranking the other day. That was a real positive and constructive post.

                • Jim Is Bored says:

                  Because as with any internet site, half the fun is making fun of idiots.

                  I have enough positive and constructive posts.

                  • Tom says:

                    That is half the fun of RAB for you? Well that at least helps me understand it.

                    (and before you go off the handle or label me a troll, that was not intended to be a shot or an insult)

                    • Robinson Tilapia says:

                      Oh, how I long for the days when the regular commenters would just ignore the idiocy of some commenters and take the higher road. Oh, how I long for that time called “never.”

                      Have we learned nothing from Bo’s untimely death?

                    • Tom says:

                      Shockingly RT joins in.

                      All I said was this reverse trolling is getting annoying…how exactly does that make me an “idiot”

                      This is coming from someone who in last nights thread was talking about how Hughes actually pitched well until he hit his pitch limit.

                    • Manny's BanWagon says:

                      I agree with Tom in that constantly pointing out, labeling and sparring with trolls is just as annoying as the crap that the trolls post themselves.

                      Trolling and “reverse trolling” are both boring and played out IMO.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Yeah, the use of RPG amuses me because I remember getting clobbered last season for using it in defense of the Yanks in 2011 and 2012. After all, we ranked 2nd in RPG those two years. Then it was an unacceptably simple-minded benchmark that obscured the overall picture since we “obviously” weren’t that good.

      Now, however, it’s perfectly acceptable as a meter stick, even six games in and with 20% of the projected Opening Day roster starting the year hurt.

      • mustang says:

        This and that pitching has just been horrible.

      • Jim Is Bored says:

        I mean no one thought we’d be a juggernaut offense without Jeter/Tex/Grandy/Arod. So complaining about it now seems silly.

        I’m choosing to focus on the pitching because that side of the team wasn’t as predictable.

        • mustang says:

          Dude your on a row agree 100%.

          When I looked at that opening day line-up I said 4 maybe 5 runs and that with some strong pitching should be enough tread water until some enforcements return.

          • Jim Is Bored says:

            Still might be. I think a healthy Kuroda, CC being himself, and Pettitte being immune to aging should keep us above .500 in their starts, so if we can get even mediocrity out of Nova/Hughes/Phelps, we should be ok short term.

            • mustang says:

              You’re making a lot of good points but for nothing. I think this the theme:

              “3. While on the subject of offense, I would much rather watch a team that can’t pitch than a team that can’t hit.”

              We are going to make it fit whether it does or not because even after 2 wins (on good pitching) and 4 loses (on horrible pitching) the opening line of this thread is:

              “For the first time in 14 games, since Game One of the ALDS, the Yankees scored more than four runs this afternoon.”

              Nothing on CC and the good pitching SMH and walk away slowly.

  8. Scott says:

    Sabathia velocity seemed a tick better today, likely averaging 90.5-91 on the fastball (I didn’t tally but recall mainly 90-91, with more 92s than 89s). That’s still not CC of 2011 or even 2012 — but rising almost a full MPH from start #1 (89.9) to start #2 is real progress. Will be interested to see when fangraphs posts CC’s velocity range & average from this start.

  9. mustang says:

    I understand 4 runs per game on average over a season are not going to win a lot games. However, in the 4 Yankees loses the pitching staff has given up at least 7 runs.
    If you guys want to run behind Mike’s constant drum beating about the lack offend because he just doesn’t like the current offensive make up of this team then that’s fine. But even if the Yankees were averaging 6 runs per they still would have 4 lose because their PITCHING sucked.

    You guys love facts lets not just throw them to side to hear RAB drum beat.

    • hogsmog says:

      Can we leave it at: their pitching and hitting have both been bad enough over the last six games that, extrapolated over a season, they would do pretty bad even if one of them improved?

      But that a week of games is way, way to few to legitimately consider this line of reasoning?

      • mustang says:

        “Get Phelps Up says:
        April 7, 2013 at 6:34 pm
        Oh, I agree that the strength of the team going forward is pitching over hitting. There’s never been a doubt about that. I think that so far the offense has slightly underperformed and the pitching has drastically underperformed.”

        I think he put it best and anyone listing offends, as the number one reason for being 2-4 is clearly not watching the games I’m watching.

  10. LarryM. Fl says:

    This team has the ability to win enough games til some reinforcements make it back from the DL. I have a couple of issues with making it back from the DL. IMHO and there is no MD after my name. The injuries except for Granderson’s may not be of the time table variety. Jeter, Teix. and Arod have some serious injuries with tissue, ligaments etc. So when they do get back and hopefully the team is doing well. It is my hope that Girardi takes it slow with the guys off the Dl letting them get their wet wet for a week or two then if they are doing well. Let them go. Because the replacements are doing OK especially Wells who seems to have his feet on the ground and playing well.

    On another note great win was recorded today. Good AB’s against the “the best hitter in baseball.” Sorry Mike had to do it.

    • Jim Is Bored says:

      If Verlander is the best hitter in baseball then I think we need a new MLB Hall of Fame just for him.

      But it was definitely an encouraging game.

  11. Eddard says:

    If you had to name the top 5 shows currently on television, 3 of them are airing tonight – Mad Men, GoT, and Shameless. I’d probably say Breaking Bad and Boardwalk Empire round out the definitive top 5 and I don’t think there’s an argument to be made against any of those shows that have proven to be a cut above the rest. Homeland would be top 5 but it’s 2nd season wasn’t nearly as good as its 1st so it needs to redeem itself in season 3.

    • Barry says:

      I’ve really been enjoying Vikings. Mad Men seems to be more of a hate it or love it than all of the other shows you’ve listed so it’d be safer in the 5-10 range than the 1-5 range. The Bates Motel has shown me a lot of promise and I make a habit of watching it on Mondays now. Orphan Black on BBCA has been pretty fun in 2 episodes. Dr. Who is another BBC classic in it’s final leg. Misfits isn’t currently in season but that’s another great show from Britain. The Killing is also extremely good, with strong acting and great writing. There’s probably more good shows now than any time in history, there’s a solid 10-12 hours of quality programming to watch every week.


      • Eddard says:

        I’ve liked Vikings as well, definitely has promise. Bates Motel should be interesting once they get to Norman turning into a killing monster. Never seen any of those BBC shows. I gave up on The Killing after the season 1 finale and I thought it was cancelled actually.

        • Barry says:

          Check out Orphan Black, it’s got a little bit of everything. I meant The Following, my bad. I get those two mixed up sometimes. You miss Norman starting to get whacky last week?

  12. MannyGeee says:

    So I had to go be an adult today and didn’t get to see the game or sit on the internets with all you guys. Nor have I perished the game thread, but let me take a guess at how today went.

    2 innings of ‘this team sucks and Cashman should jump off a cliff without a parachute next time…’
    2 innings of ‘no way they can hold this lead and I hope Hal gets AIDS’
    And then…. Radio silence.

    Did I nail it? Close??

  13. Bo Knows says:

    Just saw The Evil Dead, I’m am not kidding when I say it is a really good movie. It was creepy, violent, and had practically no CGI (maybe 1 minutes worth for the entire movie)

    I haven’t had that much fun watching a horror film in a long time

    • Barry says:

      Good to know, I’ve been meaning to go see this. I saw a review that was very high on it somewhere as well.

  14. Robinson Tilapia says:

    I was really crushed when I returned home, only to find that there was no further info into Athenian’s “study” as to blog behavior. Now, I have Athenian a ton of grief last season, but am vey much giving him the benefit of the doubt this season thus far. I want to know more about this study. What was the methodology? Was it limited to Yankee blogs, sports blogs, or blogs in general? What measurements were used to determine what “trolling” meant? Even if, by some cruel twist, this was just a subjective “yeah, dat dude wanna impress da regulars” thing, what would a real study of the sort look like? As the spouse of a researcher, I MUST KNOW.

  15. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Why is Jim bored on a Sunday? Shouldn’t there be a different weekend tag?

  16. forensic says:

    Wow, Jered Weaver just went down in a clump. Looked like maybe something along the lines of a hyper-extended elbow. Though it’s his left arm which is better for them.

    Not that I’m going to be sad about an Angel maybe being hurt.

    • Barry says:

      I look at it as every time a top player goes down the game suffers.

      • forensic says:

        Eh, I see what you’re saying, but I have a hard time thinking that way when it’s a team that will likely compete with the Yankees for a playoff spot.

        An NL team? Sure, maybe I’ll go with that line of thinking. A bad AL team? Possibly, depends how much the Yankees play them. :-)

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