Game 29: Matinee

Yankees shutout by A's, drop series opener 2-0
Nova feels no pain in triceps, begins playing catch
(Presswire)
(Presswire)

The Yankees were one of four AL East teams to get shutout by AL West teams last night — the Red Sox (vs. Rangers), Blue Jays (vs. Mariners), and Orioles (vs. Angels) also scored zero runs — so at least the rest of the division hit as poorly as the boys in the Bronx. The day game following the night game means a quick turn-around and a chance to make amends for the loss with a win this afternoon. Here’s the starting nine…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. 2B Robinson Cano
  3. LF Vernon Wells
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  6. 3B Chris Nelson
  7. 1B Lyle Overbay
  8. SS Eduardo Nunez
  9. C Chris Stewart

And on the mound is the man the Yankees selected with the first round pick they received from the Astros when Andy Pettitte signed with Houston, right-hander Phil Hughes.

We’ve got some excellent weather for this afternoon’s game, which is scheduled to start a little after 1pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

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Yankees shutout by A's, drop series opener 2-0
Nova feels no pain in triceps, begins playing catch
  • Dave

    So apparently even on a day game after a night game Romine can’t get a start

    • trr

      which begs the question, “Why is he even here?”

      • vicki

        would you do us armchair logicians a favor and say “raises the question?” begging the question is one of aristotle’s 13 fallacies.

        • TomH

          I’m 100% with you on this complaint, but I’m beginning to despair that it’s a lost cause. It’s everywhere now, even in a NYTimes article a while ago.

        • trr

          far be it from me to piss on Aristotle, especially in the heated academic confines of a sports thread…

          • Havok9120

            As long as you stay far clear of logic, Early Modern History, Germanic studies, the American Civil War, wrestling, Arabic, psychotherapy, bowling alley/bar/restaurant management, and a few other choice topics, you’ll probably not encounter anyone with any professional experience in what you’re talking about.

            • trr

              and yet, I came here and managed to learn something. granted, it wasn’t about baseball, but still…

            • TomH

              “Early modern history”? “Germanic studies”? Are you of the academy?

              • vicki

                highest per capita i.q. of any baseball blog comments section on the web. fact.

  • SDB

    Not impressed by Stewart starting again, and according to Girardi’s comments on ESPN, probably yet again tomorrow.

  • The Oberamtmann

    Day after a nightgame? Still Stewart!?

    If you think Stewart should be the starter, that’s fine. If Stewart is the starter, than shouldn’t Romine be in the minors to play every day and continue to develop? They are setting him up for failure.

    • CS Yankee

      Yesterday i did not support your rant, today I 100% support your rant.

      day game after a night game where stew didn’t really do anything and you give the backup the start regardless.

      Total BS by Joe.

  • Vern Sneaker

    Especially since it’s a day game after a night game the only takeaway I have is that they don’t think Romine is all that good, not up to Stewart’s defensive standard in any respect. What else could it be? And if that’s what they think he should be developing in AAA.

  • Havok9120

    I’ve not the time nor the patience to deal with a Game Thread today now that exams have started in earnest.

    I leave you all to our sacred duty: the game must be won for the greater glory of Prussia.

    • SDB

      Yuck. Good luck.

  • JoeyA

    Baffles me the Romine/Stewart situation.

    This team was planning on getting under $189 & they’re terrified to rely on ” kids”.

    Let the damn kids show us what they have instead of plugging in “veteran” players like Stewart & Francisco. It’s this reason why we see players like Justin Maxwell start & produce for other teams while we pay someone 4-5 yrs older bc they have a track record.

    Every career starts with a first AB. Some greats even had shit starts to their career & go on to become HOFers. Let some of these guys play or use them to make a God damn trade for a player who’ll likely hit their prime in coming years, ie Justin Upton or Stanton or someone.

    Day game after night game & we don’t see the wisdom to give our 30+ yr old C a day off in favor of the Romine. what’s the worst he can do: 0-3 w 5 LOB cause the current C managed that feat on Wed

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      fwiw, I don’t think offense is the consideration.

    • Vern Sneaker

      I don’t think they like what they see, something about game-calling or other not-ready-for-prime-time thing. They need to decide if he’s a real prospect or a future back-up only. This isn’t doing anyone any good.

    • Winter

      If they could trade our current prospects for Stanton they would have already.

  • neaks

    wat is a chris nelson

    • ropeadope

      New and improved Kevin Youkilis.

      /WishfulThinking

  • Robinson Tilapia

    We emerge from the abyss for Prussia.

  • Bubba

    Ladies and Gentlemen

    Welcome to the Chris Nelson Experience

  • Pat D

    Little annoyed that Romine isn’t starting.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Generic comment about how “Why is Stewart starting day game after a night game” because it’s been mentioned like 8 times, but still a legit beef.

  • The Oberamtmann

    Y’know what’s funny? Almost nobody ever, outside of the leadership, cared for “Prussia” except for those in Prussia itself (which is now in Poland). Like most German states in the 18th and 19th century, Prussia was a mishmash of various territories, each with its own traditions and identity. That’s who they fought for. For Brandenburg and Elector! For Kleves and Duke! etc.

    • SDB

      Those who don’t fight for Prussia don’t win the AL East.

      • Havok9120

        This too.

    • Havok9120

      Certainly. Prussia didn’t exist in any meaningful way until the Great Elector went about centralizing the state. Even after all he accomplished (which is quite a bit in a reign lasting nearly five decades) the administrative bodies of the state wouldn’t really be focused on the necessities of the state over its constituent parts until his grandson, Frederick William, truly reformatted the state during his own reign. Even then, getting the various factions within Brandenburg to give a damn about East Prussia or Pomerania was exceedingly difficult. Hell, the only reason “Prussia” became the name at all was because it was the only territory Frederick III/I held outside the Holy Roman Empire when he decided to crown himself “King in (not of) Prussia” in a way that the Austrians couldn’t get too pissy over.

      But I do think you’re overstating it a bit. Prussian nationalism really took off during the Silesian Wars especially once Frederick the Great became such a cult-like figure. The fact that the Hohenzollerns were so committed building a national identity out of nothing from the 1640s on put them several steps ahead of most of the other Germanic states in that regard.

  • Dalek Jeter

    So, after months of browbeating, I finally convinced my friend to watch Firefly, four hours later she’s on episode 3, live chatting about it with me.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Well done.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Wife her.

      • Dalek Jeter

        I may. She’s a handful though.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Tell us more.

          I can help you determine if she’s wife material.

        • WhittakerWalt

          Ehh, they’re all handfuls. You just need to find the one who’s the least annoying and make it work with that one.
          Er, that sounded pretty sexist. It wasn’t meant to.

          • vicki

            don’t sweat it. there are some girls you have a wild time with and write songs about and there are some girls you marry. we all know which we are.

  • Fin

    Romaine not being in the game today would seem to say that the Yankees dont feel hes ready. I mean if he cant relieve a catcher of Stewies ability the day after a night game…

    I wonder if Romaine is just and emergency catcher, because they have no other options and we will see the Yankees trade for another BUC/Platoon partner for Stewie in the next couple of days.

    • Dalek Jeter

      We have…I think his name is Wilson…in AAA who can be an “emergency catcher” I mean he’s not on the 40 man, but we could make room. If they really think that Romine “isn’t ready” he shouldn’t be here.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I forgot completely about Bobby Wilson. I kept on thinking Jose Gil was the AAA BUC.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Lettuce see.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Damn, that ball carried a lot farther than I thought it would.

  • Eddard

    Chris Nelson can’t be any worse than Francisco so he has that going for him.

    I think we’ll see Stewart catch 80% with Frankie out. Romine wasn’t good with Andy. I thought he’d catch Hughes but maybe he’ll just catch Phelps and Stewart will catch the veterans.

    • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

      I think Girardi is secretly happy Cervelli was injured so he can play Stewart every day now.

      /halfserious

  • nsalem

    The year Bartolo won the CYA is ERA+ was 122 to Mariano’s 308

    • Pat D

      Johan was the guy who deserved the award that year. Colon won it because he won 20 games.

    • WhittakerWalt

      308!

  • Vern Sneaker

    I know Cano is great etc etc. but supposed that grounder had been bobbled or kicked a few feet away. Cano needs to run , dammit. I’m really sick if it.

    • WhittakerWalt

      I don’t suppose we can put a “Must Hustle” clause into his new contract, can we?

  • Dalek Jeter

    Anybody have any opinions of the A’s radio broadcast, because if Ihave to listen to 2 hours of Ma and Pa lamenting on how many pitches Hughes throws, AGAIN I may shove a pair of scissors into my eardrums.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Smith must be the slowest man on earth if that’s a double.

    • Pat D

      I might not have made second on that one, so I’m slower.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Quit being modest, Pat. You know you’d have your first inside-the-parker.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    So Chris Nelson is the new below-average major leaguer getting a shot who is going to be shat upon on here? Just making sure.

    • Pat D

      Did you really need to ask that question?

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Well, I mean, he’s clearly done so much to earn that label already. How dare Chris Nelson breathe air?

        • Dalek Jeter

          Better than Jayson Nix.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            You do not besmirch Jayson Nix in my presence, Plouffy.

            • Pat D

              Or William Regal.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                You can piss on Regal. That’s fine.

                • Pat D

                  Not on him. Just in his tea.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Jayson Nix, with his pointless ‘y’ in his name has no place on my baseball teams.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                Silence!

                • Dalek Jeter

                  Will fall when the question is asked.

                  • Pat D

                    Can it, nerd.

                    That will be the moment where I stop watching Doctor Who.

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      Don’t worry Pat, the question will never be answered. though it may be asked

              • vicki

                seriously, what’s with their parents and the superfluous Y? it’s even more offensive in laynce.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  I guess there’s names that could look worse with an extra Y.

                  Jym is Bored.

        • Pat D

          Yea, he’s impinging upon my freedom by breathing air that I might breathe myself.

  • Dalek Jeter

    See Ichiro is such a magician with the bat he tried to—oh wait I mean…

  • SeventhAce

    I fear the day when Nelson, Francisco and Stewart takes up 1/3 of the lineup…..

    • Robinson Tilapia

      …and go 10-12 combined with 6 RBIs.

      • SeventhAce

        I’d take 1/3 of that production coming from those 3.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I think Francisco’s gone within a month and have no clue what’s coming from Nelson based on an at-bat.

  • Pat D

    The first round of the 2004 draft is quite…interesting, to say the least.

    The way the 1st and 2nd picks played out may one day be remembered the same way that Steve Chilcott/Reggie Jackson is.

    • Rubano

      I’m pretty confident that the reason Bush went #1 that year was because of the bomb he hit off Hughes in area codes.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I’m just going to put it out there…

    Eduardo Nunez is so easily my least favorite Yankee right now, and it’s not even close.

    • trr

      I can’t help but feel he’ll never be more than what is now, and that ain’t much

      • Robinson Tilapia

        If it was true, about a year or so ago, that a couple of teams thought he was starting material, I would have boxed him up and FedEx’d him myself to them.

  • SeventhAce

    Nunez’s helmet not staying on his head, one of the great mysteries of baseball.

  • trr

    RISP fail, the team’s Achilles’ Heel for quite some time now

    • Havok9120

      “RISP fail, every team’s Achilles’ Heel since baseball was invented.”

      Fixed that for you. I’ll expect my editor’s commission to arrive in the mail by the end of the month.

      • vicki

        this.

        • trr

          only one commission per edit, please!

          • vicki

            i’m pro bono.

            if you know what i mean.

            • trr

              Me too, I love U2!

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Big U2 fan?

              • trr

                In truth, Like ‘em a lot, but they’re not one of my all time favs. Great Live Act, though

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  One of the best live acts you will ever see.

                  I’ve tried to see them once per tour since “Achtung Baby,” although I did miss them on the “Pop” tour, where they went crazy and had McDonalds golden arches behind them in some weird statement.

                  • trr

                    yeah, they like to go for the BIG Spectacle aspect, but you know what? They’re one of the few bands who can pull it off

  • Dalek Jeter

    We’re sorry Chris. We love you.

    Also, there is your run, Phil!!

  • SDB

    The baseball gods have a sense of humor.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Chris Stewart just told all of you to suck his nuts rounding third.

    • True Pinstriped Blue

      God you’re such a loser. Troll has you pegged.

  • Pat D

    Clearly, Girardi is a genius of proportions we can’t even begin to surmise.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Oh fuck you, Josh Reddick.

  • Eddard

    And you all didn’t want to play Stewart. Girardi is a genius.

  • YankeesJunkie

    Always hate to see a game off a walk Chris Stewart homer.

    • YankeesJunkie

      Disregard dipshittery after a few beers.

      Meant to be a joke on games ending after Stewart hits a home run in a game.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I appreciate the fan in the bleachers getting called out on the air for not doing his part on that fly ball.

    • YankeesJunkie

      Damn straight, gotta use that home field advantage.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Exactly.

    • nsalem

      If it wasn’t conclusively a HR, may have been interference. I know what you mean though.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I want to see Josh Reddick’s fingers get bitten off.

        Obviously a visiting tourist from Sheboygan out there.

  • Matt Nokes

    What is Sterling’s call for a Chris Stewart homerun?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      My guess: “It’s a louie from Stewie!”

      That makes no sense, but it may make sense to Sterling. It may reference some 1940’s musical he loves.

    • Jay

      I think he said “Stewart Christens one into the left field seats” or something like that lol

  • nsalem

    Guess Leiter doesn’t care for McGwire

  • Wheels

    Get that fan a uniform.

  • Pat D

    Josh Reddick cannot be The Man because he never beat The Man.

    Whoooo!

    • Robinson Tilapia

      His finances are probably in better shape.

      • Pat D

        My finances are probably in better shape.

    • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

      There’s no “h” in Wooooooooooo!!!

      Unless, you’re an owl.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Since when is 72 pitches a batter into the 5th a bad fucking pitch count?!

    • Robinson Tilapia

      It’s not at all. It’s not super-duper-economic, but anything is still possible. You could be at 72 in the 5th, have a couple of good innings, and still pitch a complete game.

      • Dalek Jeter

        It’s all they’re talking about during “the Daily News 5th” not how he’s struck out like 7, but TEH PITCH COUNT?!!

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I’ve never seen Mark Feinsand and forensic in the same room together. Have you? :)

          • Dalek Jeter

            Touche.

    • nsalem

      To get through seven which is what you hope he would be able to do today he would be on pace to throw 126 pitches which he won’t be doing. I wouldn’t call 72 pitches for 12 outs bad though.

    • Pat D

      I’ve thought a good rule of thumb is 15 pitches per inning. That would mean a guy could throw 105 pitches and get you through 7 innings. So if you agree with that, he should be at 75 through 5 complete innings. Right now, he’s above that pace, so he might not get you through 7.

  • Pat D

    We’re all going to be sad when Lyle is gone.

    • vicki

      lyle never really goes away. he’s just asymptomatic.

  • Eddard

    Overbay is definitely an unsung hero this year. He has played a great 1st base and given us just what we’ve needed on offense.

  • Winter

    Nunez’s magic helmet didn’t get the job done there.

  • trr

    …Yesview….

  • Dalek Jeter
    • Winter

      Or you could, ya know, just put ice cream on your cookie and still be able to close the carton.

    • SDB

      Minus 10 points for choosing vanilla, of all possible B&J flavors.

      Plus a million for style.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Yeah, my friend showed me this and my immediate response was “Chocolate Chip Cookies with Half Baked.”

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Gameday just lied to me and told me Cespedes walked.
    Why did you lie to me Gameday?

    • Rubano

      hacked by the Chinese govt

  • Eddard

    Philbert can start the next inning. He’s still throwing gas. Leiter says go with how the pitcher looks, not 100 pitches.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I agree with Eddard. Let him go batter-to-batter. Hughes isn’t some kid, he’s a vet at this point.

  • mac

    Dickey gave up three homers, M’s over the Jays 7-0 in the sixth.

    Unbelievable how AA was touted as a genius by so many.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Some of it is plain shitty luck, but daaaaaaaaaamn.

      • vicki

        or a knuckleball in a dome?

        • Winter

          Domes don’t hurt knuckleballers. If anything, they help Dickey control his knuckleball. Look at his game in Tampa last year.

          • vicki

            i’ve never thrown the pitch; i just know what i’ve read from jim bouton, et al, about needing heat and humidity to make it dance. dickey’s early and late year splits appear to support this.

  • vicki

    is laughing at the bj’s getting old or is it still fun? i can’t tell.

    • SDB

      It’ll never get old.

      Besides, if their feelings get hurt, they can console themselves with the 2012-2013 Offseason Championship.

    • nsalem

      still LOTS of fun.

    • mac

      For me its still fun, but its also surreal. Every move was shit, Johnson, Reyes, Melky (for 2 years no less!) and picking Farrell again after you canned his ass and no one touched him.

      Its almost like AA suffered a head injury and no one noticed.

  • nsalem

    Good Stuff Vern

  • Dalek Jeter

    Pronk!!!

  • nsalem

    Hope Tex and Granderson are learning something from watching Hafner everyday.

  • The Real Greg

    Right now it looks like it’s tit for tat. A’s shutdown Yanks yesterday, Yanks shut down A’s today.

    • nsalem

      please don’t say that in the sixth inning without Joba and D-Rob.

      • The Real Greg

        That’s why I said “right now”. Like knocking on wood

        • nsalem

          Right now the only way it could look like that to me is when we have a lead and number 42 is on the mound.

  • Bo Knows

    I know Phil has had a good game, but he is so damn inefficient and predictable I’ve been counting his fastballs, he’s thrown 68 fastballs this game. I like phil but its this shit that makes him nothing more than a #4-starter. Everyone knows what he’s throwing because he only throws one pitch.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I will take 6 innings of shut out ball every day from a pitcher who isn’t my “ace.”

      • The Real Greg

        Especially against the team that has scored the most runs in the AL.

    • Rubano

      David Price, Yin Chen, Bartolo and many more all do the same shit

      • Bo Knows

        And only one of those guys is an above average starter, and that’s because he (Price) averages 95 mph on the fastball.

        • Rubano

          Yea, but not everyone is a #1. You seem to be underestimating the value of a solid 3,4 guy

          • Bo Knows

            I’m not underestimating anything, Phil frustrates me because I see far more talent in him than he’s shown. I’ve said that many times, his own stubborn reliance on his fastball is his own downfall. It’s great when it’s working, but when its not, or if he doesn’t have the velocity, he’s literally up shits creek without a paddle.

            His slider is good, I think it’s effectiveness lies in the massive speed difference from his fb essentially making it a changeup. His curveball is solid, it’s a pitch to throw for a strike to keep hitters honest. It’s not a finisher but its a good pitch to throw when trying to get ahead.

            • Rubano

              IDK, Phil has looked as good in the past month as Ive ever seen him as a starter. Over the years, we’ve seen him tinker with changeups and sliders(which has actually developed somewhat well) and it’s always led to inconsistent results.

            • vicki

              i think people are reacting more to the timing of your point than its validity.

              • Bo Knows

                I understand the timing, but I see people as only saying something when the outcome isn’t good. If the outcome is great but the person is still doing the same mess that screwed them earlier, it needs to be said or in vice versa

                The outcome for Phil has been great, there is no doubt; but he’s not pitching any different than he ever has, and that frustrates me, and I’m going to mention it.

    • The Real Greg

      So does Mo. Complaining about him?

      • Bo Knows

        There is a huge difference between a reliever and a starting pitcher, its not even an apt argument.

      • nsalem

        Mo throws 95 MPH you must still be playing MLB 2005

        • The Real Greg

          I was talking about the one pitch thing.

      • mac

        Mo throws one pitch but he’s incredibly efficient and works fast.

        Hughes isn’t fun to watch – works slow, alot of times struggles to put guys away, hence the high pitch counts, but great results lately.

    • high heat

      When your FB is moving as much as his is today, you ride that pony.

  • nsalem

    He has a mid 2 ERA in his last 4 starts. He hasn’t given up a HR in his last two starts. I don’t know how you can say that. I would take that from a 2, 3 or 4 starter any day.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Seriously…the whole meme of “Hughes is so inePHicent” and what not is pretty old when he has gone 7 IP in 3 of his last 4 starts including today and averaged 6.25 IP per start from May on last season. As a 3 or 4 starter what more can you ask then him to at least bring you into the 7th?

  • The Real Greg

    Send him back out for the 8th.

  • SDB

    FFS, Ma and Pa, can you actually call the game instead of counting Hughes’ pitches?

    (And am I the only one hoping that Hughes goes back out there for the 8th?)

    • The Real Greg

      Hope? Girardi has no choice. He has to do it.

    • Dalek Jeter

      +100000 I might post about it more than most, in Hughes’ defense on the pitch count thing…but christ it’s all they fucking talk about. Can you blame me?

  • nsalem

    Looks like our predictable inefficient number 4 starter may give us 8 today.

  • Eddard

    I can’t believe anyone would complain about this great start by Phil. 7 strong innings. He’s pitching better than anyone on the staff right now, period.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Am I the only one that sends him back out for the 8th?

  • nsalem

    I agree

  • trr

    Let him pitch the 8th, even if he gets a runner or 2 on

  • Havok9120

    That’s what I like to see Eddy.

  • nsalem

    No Boesch here. Must be little confidence in Austin

  • Eddard

    That’s what we want to see, Nuney. Great swing.

  • SDB

    UGH. Girardi can’t pinch hit Boesch now, and plug Romine in there for the last couple of innings?

  • 28 this year

    Is it that difficult to order him a smaller helmet that stays on? I am sure a little league helmet with an ear cut off would work wonders compared to what he has now.

    • TomH

      Who was it on the YES team the other night who said that the Great Willie liked to have his hat fly off because it made him look faster? Maybe it’s deliberate on Nunez’ part.

  • Rubano

    For anyone curious aboutthe Oakland radio team: Ken Korach, the p-b-p guy is legit. He’s been in the booth for like 20 years. Not too sure about the new color guy, whoever he is he replaced the legendary Bill King when King died about 5 years ago. Regardless, anything is better than John & Suzyn; I used to somewhat enjoy their stupidity back in 08,09 but it’s grown old IMO.

  • The Real Greg

    If you weren’t going to PH there, I would have tried a squeeze.

    • The Real Greg

      And in the end, it doesn’t matter.

  • Brooklyn Nets

    Leiter + UZR = <3

  • The Real Greg

    By the way, I’m trying to fill a list of the 10 greatest rock bands of all time. I have 6 of them, all British, already on and need 4 more. I have

    The Beatles
    The Rolling Stones
    Queen
    Led Zeppelin
    The Who
    Pink Floyd

    • Fin

      I would include GnR and Meticalla on that list, but thats just me.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Disagree, GnR were great, but their prime lasted about 8 minutes, and Metallica (I thinks that what you mean) belong in the “Hall of Very Good” to borrow a sports term.

        • Fin

          LOL no idea how the Metallica spelling came out that way, typing while doing other stuff I suppose. Yea, GnR was short lived what but they did was as good as it gets in my opinion. As far as Metallica goes I put em a notch lower, but there arent a ton of options as bands have been minimized over the years with onslaught of rap. I would put AC/DC on the list also. I have no disagreements with his list except for maybe Queen. A case could be made for Aerosmith minus their more recent stuff.

          • The Real Greg

            I put Queen on there because of all of those bands, they are second to the Beatles in number of songs that the average Joe could identify. Plus all four of them wrote their songs and their legacy is very much felt today.

            The fact that they are my favorite of the 6 has nothing to do with them being there.

          • Dalek Jeter

            I feel Queen absolutely belongs on this list. They were incredible.

            • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

              Yeah no doubt about Queen. A total no brainer. Amazing song writing, FUCKING COMPLETELY EPIC live performances (I was lucky enough to see a couple including Live Aid) and Freddy’s pipes were just………ridonkulous.

              • vicki

                and brian may is in the pantheon. seriously, top five easily.

      • vicki

        just you and a million other stoners from the 80s.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Now there’s a subjective list. :)

      I’d say you’ve got the safe bets there. Now where you go from there depends on a ton, from tastes to whether you judge longevity versus quality versus originality, etc.

      • The Real Greg

        I’m trying to keep personal opinions out as much as I can, despite the fact that I like at least one song from each of them.

        Judging on number of major hits, length of initial success and legacy.

        I’ve also considered adding U2 to that initial list but there have been reservations.

        • vicki

          kinks, clash, ramones

          • Dalek Jeter

            Very Punky vicki, I like it.

    • VT Yankee Fan

      All time or just bands that started in the 60s?

      • The Real Greg

        No all time. And they can’t be individual acts paired with backup bands so Bruce Springsteen and the E Street band would no be allowed.

    • Dalek Jeter

      The Smiths! They are legitimately one of the most underrated bands of all time!

      • vicki

        gross.

        (damn fine songwriting, but johnny marr’s jangle and morrissey’s whine are fingernails on a chalkboard.)

      • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

        Preposterous. Do this: listen to them with your eyes closed and think of Kermit the Frog. You’ll never be able to stand them again.

    • CountryClub

      Sabbath, van halen (Roth era), Metallica & 70’s era Aerosmith.

      • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

        A lot of dirt bag in there but I’m feelin VH.

        • CountryClub

          Eh, no different than Zep, Who or Stones. Sometimes dirty is good.

    • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

      Never been a PF guy but cannot quibble with the others on your list. I would add The Clash, U2, REM, Springsteen (won’t get into the solo act vs band debate bc he and the ESB are completely linked) and….Bon Jovi in an embarrassing moment. Or maybe Mellencamp. Or CSN/Y, The Police, Foo Fighters. Okay never mind I’m terrible at this. Carry on.

  • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

    Great to see Phil stepping up on a day the bullpen is short. That’s two great starts in a row for him, very encouraging.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Fuck it, send ‘em out for the 9th!!!

    • SDB

      Fuck pitch counts. Give him a chance at a complete game shutout.

      • Dalek Jeter

        He’s at like 116, and he’s a free agent after the season, and it’s a non-save situation, go for it.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Huuuuuuughes!!!

  • Fin

    Possibly even AC/DC

    • The Real Greg

      Out of the three, GnR is the closest to getting on. I put AC/DC and Metallica closer to heavy metal

      • VT Yankee Fan

        “Appetite for Destruction” might make my top ten album list but I don’t think they had a long enough run to be great.

      • Fin

        I agree with that but both AC/DC and Metallica were definately cross over bands that had a much wider audience then just heavy metal.

        • The Real Greg

          Well the fact that they have “metal” in their name doesn’t help them.

  • Winter

    Heck, throw Hughes out there for the 9th, go for the CGSO.

  • vicki

    they’re not booing.

  • oldmanalex

    So are you seeing Hughes evolve into something more than a back end starter? If he keeps pitching like this we can’t let him walk. If anything trade him, but not just let him walk.

    • Havok9120

      If he keeps pitching like this, we can at least offer him a QO and get the draft pick. I don’t expect him to remain this effective, but I’m open to the possibility. He doesn’t become someone that MUST be traded or MUST be extended. For one, if he’s pitching this well, we’re going to need him down the stretch. For another, all the arguments about him being worth more to other teams will still be true.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Note to John Sterling: Hughes has been relatively consistent. His last 4 starts he’s gone at least 6IP w/o allowing more than 2ER.

    • SDB

      Additional note to John Sterling: These things are blatantly obvious, if you look at numbers other than pitch counts.

    • WhittakerWalt

      John doesn’t like numbers. Or facts. Or verifiable information of any sort.

  • The Real Greg

    Joe taking no chances.

  • Leg-End

    Kelley has a short leash, I mean understandable given Robertson isn’t available but not trusting him to get 3 outs in a four run game with Mo available seems kinda counter-productive.

  • The Real Greg

    The F*** McClelland?!!!!!

    • Leg-End

      He sucks, his slow call is infuriating.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Joe G can be dumb as shit sometime.

    Either stick with Kelly or start the inning with Mo.

    Damn a save. Just get the win shit

  • The Real Greg

    That run should be charged to Tim Mclelland with a horrible missed strike 3 call

  • Winter

    I’ve never understood defensive indifference. If the run doesn’t matter, why not try to throw him out? If you throw it away, so what?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      The idea is that somebody would have to leave their position to cover the base while the pitch is delivered, which could possibly lead to a cheap hit.

  • Paulc

    Cash and joe….please cut Kelley tonight….just terrible….

    • Leg-End

      He faced one batter, thats a bit harsh no?

      • your mom

        LOL.

      • WhittakerWalt

        He’s got an ERA over 8, and it’s deserved.

  • Eddard

    There’s only one club in all of baseball that has a better record than the Yankees right now. Win tomorrow behind Andy and they’ll have their 8-2 home stand. Go on the road and play 4-4 or better and then the injured players start to return. Couldn’t have asked for a better outcome.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    This game was kickass.

    The only thing about this season that really bothers me is the Red Sox. Fuck the Red Sox, seriously.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    Sterling said Ichiro stole a homer. I just took a glance at the replay and couldn’t really tell. Is this true?

  • Pseudoyanks

    How come no Save for Mo in the boxscore??

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      A pitcher can’t pitch themslves into a save.

    • Laz

      Must have tying run on deck or 3 run lead when come in. Satisfied neither.