May
21

Game 45: Redemption

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(Jonathan Daniel/Getty)

(Jonathan Daniel/Getty)

Phil Hughes didn’t just have the worst start of his career last time out, he had one of the worst starts by a Yankee this century. I guess the good news is there’s nowhere to go but up from a seven-run, two-out disaster like that. Hughes talked about getting on top of the ball and needing to better his fastball command these last four days, but the time for talking is over. Phil gets his shot at redemption against the division rival Orioles tonight, for a team that has won three straight against a team that has lost six straight. Here’s the lineup that will face fresh off the DL Miguel Gonzalez…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. 2B Robinson Cano
  3. LF Vernon Wells
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. 1B Lyle Overbay
  6. RF Curtis Granderson
  7. 3B David Adams
  8. SS Jayson Nix
  9. C Austin Romine

And on the mound is the only Yankee to earn a win during the 2007 ALDS, right-hander Phil Hughes.

Summer’s coming. It’s warm and kinda humid in New York, so typical baseball weather. The game is scheduled to begin a little after 7pm ET and be seen on My9 locally and MLB Network nationally. Enjoy.

Injury Updates: Kevin Youkilis (back) had three at-bats today — I assume in a simulated game — and actually took some swings. He had been just standing in the box and tracking pitches until today … Joba Chamberlain (oblique) will pitch in a minor league game tomorrow, and the team plans on having him make two appearances before activating him off the DL … Mark Teixeira (wrist) got four more at-bats in a simulated game … Ivan Nova (triceps, back) threw several innings in a simulated game or Extended Spring Training game yesterday.

Categories : Game Threads
  • Robinson Tilapia

    For Prussia, as well as the new Daft Punk album.

    • vicki

      too divisive. take that second part back.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        No. We must feed the hype machine, and it’s pretty damn good.

        • dkidd

          live musicians!

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Yup, and a badass extended spoken intro by Giorgio Moroder on one track.

            I was listening to Moroder’s “E=MC2″ album from 1979 today. You’d be shocked to hear how similar some of it sounds to what artists like DP, M83, and Phoenix are doing today. They’re doing a tremendoes homage.

            • dkidd

              i saw “midnight express” in the theatre when i was WAY too young. still get goosebumps whenever i hear the score

              • Pat D

                Oh, Billy…

                • dkidd

                  that scene screwed me up for a decade

                  • Pat D

                    I watched the movie sometime in the last 6 months or so, I think. By the time that scene happened, I could totally see myself doing the same thing, given all that happened.

                    But it did finally make me understand that one joke in The Cable Guy.

                    • dkidd

                      i love that they made that joke knowing only 1% of the audience would get it

            • trr

              One man’s homage is another man’s rip off

              • Robinson Tilapia

                “Nobody’s original anymore. We’re all thieves.” – Ozzy Osbourne, about 20 years ago at this point.

                Every time I think I hear something truly new and original, there was always someone else doing it before I hadn’t gotten to yet. It happens.

                • Pat D

                  Everything is derivative of something else. Even The Beatles.

          • trr

            One man’s homage is another man’s rip off
            Check the new album by The National
            Excellent, and they rock live too!

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Actually, I have a slight personal grudge against the National. Long story, but I don’t listen to them.

              • trr

                Gee whiz what they do to you?

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  A member of the band is in a smaller side project for whom a family member of mine set up an artist-in-residence series for and was very gracious to, inviting them over to their house, cooking them dinner, etc. They wound up being rather ungrateful.

                  • vicki

                    musicians are assholes? go figure.

                  • trr

                    Alas! Success has gone to their head..

        • vicki

          i strongly object. i’m not a fan. and phil is a metallica guy.

          by all means hype your house in a separate post. we are all united for prussia. not daft punk.

          • trr

            here, here

  • trr

    Which Hughes will we get tonight? Gotta figure the O’s are due for a few breaks, so I’m thinking this’ll be a tough one tonight. Hope I’m proven wrong!

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Phil Hughes is due for a few breaks as well. I’ll bet on my guy.

      • trr

        Robby, hope you’re right!

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Always bet on your guy. Worst thing you could be is wrong.

          • trr

            Ha! Wish being wrong was the worst thing I’ve done

    • SDB

      Nah, the breaks going against them are just making up for that ridiculous run last year.

      Really like the look of this lineup. Hope Hughes turns it around, but I have a feeling we’ll see at least one or two big HRs from Machado and Davis.

      Still, onwards for Prussia!

  • dkidd

    the game phil won in the 2007 alds was notable for being the last time roger clemens pitched in the major leagues and the last game joe torre won as manager of the yankees

    the prussian eagle devours the helpless oriole!

  • mt

    Interesting how Yanks will do against Gonzalez – only Yankee in lineup who has a hit off of him is Robinson Cano (from ESPN batter vs pitcher data – don’t think it takes playoffs into account)- others with hits are either on the DL like Jeter or are on bench like Ichiro.

    Hopefully he is rusty coming off of DL.

  • Winter

    Huh. According to Baseball Reference, Hughes’s start was only the 11th worst for the Yankees this century (going by game score). Jeff Weaver’s 4 IP, 7 ER, 11 H outing was worse, but I can’t see the top 9 since I’m not a subscriber. If anyone else is, here’s the link: http://www.baseball-reference......sult_table::none

    • Winter

      That link won’t work, try this one.

      • Winter

        Apparently Play Index links don’t like me, sorry.

    • Laz

      Game score isn’t everything. It can be fun, but not always based in fact. 7 runs over 2/3 of an inning is really bad.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Reading Tim Dierkes’s chat from earlier today. Doesn’t think Hughes will get more than two years unless the ERA gets under 4.

    • Pat D

      Depends on if any teams realize his skill set might better translate to their park (San Fran, San Diego, Seattle).

  • Dalek Jeter

    For Prussia

    Also, IMO this is the best starting 9 the Yankees can put together right now IMO, maybe with a tweak or two, and should be the line up on a regular basis, with Brignac being the BUI and Ichiro as the 4th OF.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      You….like…..Nixey?

      • Dalek Jeter

        Not that I like him, just that he’s where he should be if he’s starting, at the bottom of the order. Also, with the terrible offense of Francisco and Ichiro it’s hard to stay angry at a guy who really is playing just about as well as you can expect a back up playing every day to.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          That’s my Plouffy.

          *gives noogie*

      • SDB

        Who else plays SS with Nunez out?

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I come to praise Jayson Nix, not bury him.

          • Pat D

            The two are not mutually exclusive.

          • SDB

            No need, Ma and Pa will do enough praising for all of us on here. And more.

      • John S.

        Well you know he is a professional ballplayer. /johnandsuzyn’d

      • vicki

        in the 8hole? sure.

  • dkidd

    i look forward to every david adams at-bat

    prospects are fun!

  • Eddard

    Hughes need a bounce back game. Phelps has surpassed him as #4. Nova is rehabbing to return and Pineda is waiting in the wings. Hughes will either lose his rotation spot or be traded mid-season. I think we have the makings of a good staff without him and might as well get what we can for him before he gets overpaid in FA.

    • Pat D

      I don’t think Hughes loses his spot to Nova.

      • trr

        No, no way

      • Get Phelps Up

        Nor should he.

  • vicki

    kenny and flash.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Singleton doing pbp = good
    Flaharty in the booth = bad

  • Get Phelps Up

    Also it seems as if Extra Innings has finally started carrying My9 games!

  • dkidd

    i wish i didn’t know how showalter got his nickname

  • Dalek Jeter

    Can I please have a booth of Kenny, Coney, and Lieter/Pauly just once this season?

  • Dalek Jeter

    Brett showing Oppo-power!!

  • Get Phelps Up

    That should make Greg happy.

  • The Real Greg

    That’s what I want to see. Drive the high ball, Brett.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Wells really needs to stop chasing that ball low and off the plate away.

  • Andy

    I don’t know if anyone is listening to the Orioles broadcast, but they are just awful

    • Winter

      I’ve found in the past that MASN isn’t terrible. Do you know who’s in the booth?

      • Andy

        Gary Thorne and some other guy. They aren’t actually that bad, I just overreacted to his annoying mannerism of saying “May 4″ instead of “May 4th”

        • Pseudoyanks

          Some Other Guy is Jim Palmer. I hear he used to be a pretty good pitcher.

  • The Real Greg

    Needed that one out ago. They’re hitting him pretty hard so far.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Pronk!!!

    love the 2 out RBI.

  • Cy Pettitte

    Pronk! score first = win, right?

    • Dalek Jeter

      19-0 ;)

  • The Real Greg

    Wonder if Casilla makes that play. Hafner with an RBI

  • Karl Krawfid

    Pronk!

  • Eddard

    Hafner’s heating up again!

  • Winter

    There we go.

  • dkidd

    knorp

  • Dalek Jeter

    Wow…a foot either way and it’s 2nd and 3rd two outs…freaking BABIP gods.

    • The Real Greg

      5 hard hit balls that inning. 2 hits and 3 outs.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Nice start. Let’s do it, 20-0

  • dkidd

    who’s the most underrated player in baseball?

    i’ll go with paul goldschmidt

    • Dalek Jeter

      Good choice. Dude straight up rakes.

    • Cy Pettitte

      Corbin? he’s getting very little main stream coverage right now considering what he’s doing this year

      • dkidd

        good one

    • SDB

      Clearly Jayson Nix. Nobody other than Ma and Pa seem to appreciate how he contributes something in EVERY game!

  • Vern Sneaker

    Let’s go Phil! Let’s go Rangers!

  • Eddard

    Fly Ball Phil got through the 1st!

  • SDB

    What’s the over/under on how many innings it takes before Ma and Pa start bleating about Hughes’ pitch count?

    • Dalek Jeter

      I wasn’t even paying attention to it because I’m watching on TV for a change. How many did he throw in the first?

      If the answer is anymore than 15, before he records an out in the 2nd.

      • WhittakerWalt

        They’re too busy waxing rhapsodic about Gonzalez’ ability to move the ball around and “hit spawts.”

  • Vintage

    I hope Phil has a great start today just to shut up this Orioles booth. Ugh.

  • Pat D

    Has the “Granderson Is The Worst” bandwagon rolled out yet?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Only if the O’s take the lead.

      • Pat D

        Well if that happens it’s because “jjjerkoff” jinxed them by attending yesterday’s game.

        • Dalek Jeter

          clearly.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          But how did jjjerkoff get his name?

    • Troll

      You’re a real sweetheart, you know that?

    • Dalek Jeter

      you mean Kurtis?! HE IS AWFUL!!!

      • Dalek Jeter

        obvious /sarcasm is obvious btw.

        • Pat D

          Not to some people.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            He’s still got plenty of rope with me to get his timing against MLB pitching right.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Basically this. He’s a high K, high Homer guy anyway, so in my eyes he’s got a couple weeks before I even think to start complaining.

          • Get Phelps Up

            More Ichiro/Francisco!

  • Kramerica Industries

    Is there any particular reason why Michael Kay isn’t doing this game?

    • CountryClub

      No joke, he went back to NY for the soccer announcement.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Wow…talk about shading a dude up the middle.

  • Troll

    There’s Kurtis, but where is Curtis?

    • BFDeal

      Go home, Rainbow.

      • Troll

        Rainbow? You know you sound pretty idiotic when you insistently refer to me as somebody that I’m not, right? I mean, you HAVE TO know this.

        • BFDeal

          And you sound pretty defensive, Dummy. You HAVE TO know that.

          • Troll

            Oh burn! You got me, bro, you got me!

            • BFDeal

              Like the way you were supposed to have gotten me, Rainbow?

  • The Real Greg

    Adams isn’t fast either. That’s 6 hard hit balls against Gonzalez.

  • Pat D

    Right, Flash. Nix will now enter into an equal platoon because of the arrival of Reid Brignac.

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

  • The Real Greg

    Nasty pitch.

  • dkidd

    nix always seems to get to a full count

    …and then strike out

  • The Real Greg

    Ump is not giving the outside corner to either pitcher

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Phil has the fastball, slider and change…so far.

    • vicki

      he looks like 2011 post-DL phil; not a lot of K’s but plenty of weak contact (even in two-strike counts!).

  • The Real Greg

    That’s 7 hard hit balls.

  • dkidd

    randy levine is creepy

  • Dalek Jeter

    Fuck Oriole middle infielders.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Man It’s like the O’s have had Ciriaco at 2nd in this series.

    • The Real Greg

      Not really because Ciriaco hurt us mostly offensively.

      • Get Phelps Up

        He made some pretty annoyingly good defensive plays too.

        • Rolling Doughnut

          Don’t remember those, but I wouldn’t doubt it, the bastard

          • Get Phelps Up

            I remember one specific game where it seems like the Yankees hit 15 different grounders in his vicinity and he turned every single one into an out whether they were routine or not.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      Ciriaco did it to us with the bat as I (unpleasantly) recall

  • Eddard

    They need to stop hitting the ball at their 2nd basemen.

  • Kramerica Industries

    I’m getting really tired of this smoke and mirrors Miguel Gonzalez bullshit.

    • The Real Greg

      Well at least today you can’t blame the Yankees. Blame the BABiP Gods

      • Kramerica Industries

        Like I said, smoke and mirrors.

    • vicki

      attrition happens.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Was that swing as bad as it sounds?

    • vicki

      i cringed.

    • WhittakerWalt

      It sounded bad just from the description, but Ma and Pa are never going to say “jeez he swung at a ball over his head!”

  • Mykey

    Unfortunately only following the gamecast. How does Hughes look?

    • JonS

      Just got punked by Chris Dickerson.

      • Mykey

        Ten pitch at bat or something like that?

        Sheesh.

  • Dalek Jeter

    How is that a question that you can “take on” somebody with.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Isn’t it ironic?

  • Dalek Jeter

    Chris Fucking Dickerson.

  • vicki

    BSD.

  • The Real Greg

    And here comes the Dickerson fan club

    • Dalek Jeter

      Just saying, he’s everything Ichiro is at this point in his career.

      • The Real Greg

        Then why hasn’t he gotten regular playing time? I mean EVER.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Ichiro shouldn’t get regular playing time at this point in his career.

          • The Real Greg

            That’s not the point.

            The point is, if Chris Dickerson is so good, why hasn’t he stuck with anybody?

            • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

              Nobody said Dickerson is so good. The comparison is with current Ichiro. That’s not a high bar to clear.

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                I think Dickerson could be pretty good as a platoon OF. .270/.340/.420 with 15 homers, 15 steals, very good defense … 1.5-2.0 WAR basically.

                • Get Phelps Up

                  15 homers? That seems awfully high for a 31 year old who’s career average homers over 162 games is 7.

                • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

                  It doesn’t seem like baseball GM’s agree with that assessment.
                  He shouldn’t have any trouble at least matching Ichiro’s current level of production though.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Where did I say he was good? all I said was “Just saying, he is everything Ichiro is at this point in his career.” Infering both that I think at this point in their careers I think both are 4th outfielders, and that the Yankees needlessly overpaid for Ichiro when they had the ability to use Dickerson instead. You’re trying to twist my words into something they aren’t

        • vicki

          the point is ichiro shouldn’t anymore either.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          Why is Ichiro getting regular playing time now?

          He got about 300 PA’s with the Reds a few years ago, which is probably more than Ichiro should be getting at this point.

          • The Real Greg

            And he didn’t stay, did he?

            I’m not questioning whether Ichiro is better. They could have kept both. Replace Boesch with Dickerson.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

              They couldn’t keep both. Dickerson didn’t have options. It makes 0 sense to carry 2 of the same player on the MLB roster.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        More. Dickerson actually walks once in a while.

      • SDB

        But he’s not accompanied by Sapporo beer ads on WCBS!

        • Dalek Jeter

          I hate that advert.

          • Wheels

            Me too

          • WhittakerWalt

            How much does Ichiro have to suck before they yank those ads?

            • Dalek Jeter

              He has name value, completely unrelated to his play, so I doubt they’ll pull it all season.

            • Pat D

              I seem to recall they kept running those Matsui/Benihana ads the year he got hurt, even though he wasn’t playing at all, so that should tell you.

    • Troll

      You said this yesterday. New material, please.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Requisite Hughes home run.

  • SDB

    I miss Dickerson. If only he’d been around in April instead of Francisco.

  • FEED.ME.MORE!

    I think Dickerson flipped the bird to Ichiro as he rounded 3rd…..

  • WhittakerWalt

    “Phil Hughes literally has the ability to give up a homer to anybody.”

    I should have that printed up on business cards.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Diss Chrickerson

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Phlying Balls Phil is going to give up the HRs. Solo shot, no big deal. Suck it up, move forward.

  • your mom

    “Phil Hughes literally has the no ability to give up a homer to anybody.”

  • WhittakerWalt

    Exhale.

  • Wheels

    Whew

  • FEED.ME.MORE!

    Hughes got smacked that inning. Lucky to give up 1 run.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Holy shit.

    Somebody tell Flash to stop trying to do play-by-play. I want to stick nails in my ears listening to that shit.

  • Winter

    That was lucky. Jones just missed that.

  • Pseudoyanks

    Choosing Bob Costas over Gary Thorne & Some Other Guy in the Orioles booth.

    • J

      Those other guys must be reallllllly bad. Like worst announcers ever bad

      • Pseudoyanks

        I like Costas.

  • Pseudoyanks

    Wellsy

  • Dalek Jeter

    Eddie Murray?

    • Pat D

      Question?

      • Dalek Jeter

        Last/Only(I forget which) Oriole firstbaseman to win the MVP.

        • WhittakerWalt

          Robby?

        • Pat D

          Boog Powell.

    • WhittakerWalt

      “Who is the most unpleasant baseball player of the last 30 years?”

      • vicki

        kenny doesn’t think so. they had murray in the booth a few years ago; it was like a tween interviewing justin bieber.

      • Pat D

        Albert Belle says hello.

        So do Barry Bonds and Jeff Kent.

        Roger Clemens and Randy Johnson ask you to not forget them.

    • Kramerica Industries

      Boog Powell. I thought Murray at first too, Powell was my second guess.

      • Pseudoyanks

        I don’t remember Murray winning one, so I’d say Boog. Imagine if he played for Girardi, he’d be Boogie.

  • WhittakerWalt

    “I have no idea why people think Wells is going to come back to Earth”

    -John Sterling

    Gee, I don’t know. Because he hasn’t been this good in about 8 years?

    • Get Phelps Up

      He’s playing on level with his 2010 season.

      • WhittakerWalt

        I didn’t realize his ’10 season was that good. But I see that it was pretty good, though sandwiched between quite a few lousy years.

  • Dalek Jeter

    YEAH PRONK!!

  • vicki

    pronklove

  • Eddard

    Hafner is a monster right now. Hit one out, Overbay.

  • Winter

    That was quick. :D

  • Wheels

    Do something Curtis

    • The Real Greg

      Nope.

  • McLovin

    Let’s go Curtis!

  • Get Phelps Up

    Is Vernon really a better Comeback Player candidate than Mo?

    • Dalek Jeter

      That depends on if/when Wells comes back to Earth and how hard he does. I think it’s gotta be Mo though.

    • Winter

      Yes.

    • Pat D

      Depends which type of comeback you prefer.

      • Get Phelps Up

        Posey won last year in a situation really similar to Mo’s, but Rodney also won in a situation like Wells.

        • Pat D

          All depends on who’s doing the voting and who’s having the seasons.

    • Eddard

      Yes he is. Vernon was done, his career was finished. People expected Mariano to come back and be what he was because he’s Mariano.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Shutdown Inning please Phil.

  • Dalek Jeter

    What the fuck? why did they cut to a guy cutting meat and why was there a mic out there?

  • Dalek Jeter

    Whole lotta squeezing on that play.

  • your mom

    Only Hughes can start a hiter 0-2 and then walk him.

    • The Real Greg

      True but to be fair he got squeezed a bit.

    • Dalek Jeter

      And only a troll of your caliber could manage to spell hitter with one t.

      • your mom

        Alright professor, you win.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      There have been 272 BB’s after the hitter started off 0-2 in the count in MLB this year.
      I doubt Hughes is responsible for any more than maybe 20-30% of those.

      • Pat D

        Curse you and your “facts.”

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        Somewhat surprisingly, that was only his second 0-2 walk this season.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        That was his second of the year.

      • Mr Roth

        lol I’m assuming the 20-30% estimate is an intentional exaggeration.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          yes

  • Get Phelps Up

    Wieters is older than I thought.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Phil gets a DP. Wow.

  • Eddard

    He was safe by a mile. Awful call.

  • Wheels

    Safe!!!

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Safe.
    But can’t really complain after the blown calls yesterday.

  • Winter

    Very close call. He was safe, but that’s incredibly close.

    • Wheels

      I wouldn’t say incredibly. No big deal though

  • Get Phelps Up

    Not such a great series for the 1B umps.

  • Pat D

    These blown calls at first in this series are just a continuation from the Teixeira end of game play from last year.

    • SDB

      The spirit of Jerry Meals haunts Camden Yards.

      • Pat D

        Get the Ghost Hunters or Haunted Collector people in there now!

        I’m sure that first base is holding some residual evil energy.

  • CountryClub

    Romine has had some bad luck the past couple nights. Hit some balls hard with nothing to show for it.

  • The Real Greg

    We were talking about Miguel Gonzalez’s BABiP earlier

    Last year he had a BABiP of .261.

    This year it is at .283 which his higher but still below league average I think.

    • Pat D

      Then the discussion becomes is his low BABIP a skill or just luck. Probably need more than 2 years’ worth of data, though.

  • Pseudoyanks

    Cashman Failed!

  • Kramerica Industries

    Are you fucking kidding me Hughes?

  • The Real Greg

    AND HERE THEY COME AGAIN

  • Cy Pettitte

    are you fucking kidding me

  • Eddard

    Of all the people to get beat by twice.

  • Pat D

    Come on, Phil. That’s just borderline unacceptable.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    C-Dick.
    Embedded Yankees not doing their job this season.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      *this series

  • Karl Krawfid

    First Raul, no Dickerson.

    Hilarious.

  • Wil Nieves #1 Fan

    #TooManyHomers – Phil Hughes

  • Winter

    Dickerson showing us what Blue Jays fans must have felt like when Overbay came to town.

    • SDB

      … or Vernon.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Man…that Chris Dickerson is just useless. I’m so glad they got rid of him in favor of a guy like Ichiro. Ichiro is such a magician with the bat…meanwhile Dickerson has never had sustained success in the majors therefore there is no way he could have success in a platoon/back up role.

    • The Real Greg

      The secretary of the Chris Dickerson fan club.

      • Dalek Jeter

        That’s bullshit. I want to at least be VP or President. Who reps C-Dick over Ichiro more than me?!

        • The Real Greg

          Axisa is acting president.

          • Dalek Jeter

            I demand to be VP then!

            • The Real Greg

              Okay then.

              • Dalek Jeter

                I feel like you’re being condescending, Greg.

            • Winter

              VP in charge of Yankees’ RF Insults

    • Wil Nieves #1 Fan

      You just hate Asians.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Willie Mays Chris Dickerson

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Dickerson is officially NOT an Embedded Yankee™

    Dammit, need p&r beat me to it…

  • jorge brosada

    C-Dick strikes again…damn him!

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Dicked again huh Phil

  • Eddard

    Larry gave Phil a tongue lashing. Get through 2 more innings with no more runs and let’s go to the pen.

  • Cy Pettitte

    I would love to see what Orioles 7-8-9 hitters have hit against the Yankees since the beginning of 2012, it has to be at least .300

  • Wheels

    Shit

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Short leash please.

  • The Real Greg

    Pen has been notified.

  • Dalek Jeter

    God damnit Nixie.

    • WhittakerWalt

      He’s a baseball player.

  • Winter

    Aw man, that would have made the highlight reel for sure.

  • Eddard

    Jayson Nix professional ballplayer.

    • SDB

      He contributes something to the team, EVERY game he plays. Every game.

      (Ma, which team did you mean again?)

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    wtf?????

    Professional Baseball Players should catch that.

  • Dave

    Phil isn’t worth the $7m he is getting, never mind giving him a multi-year deal. Too many homers, too many walks, too many pitches. And screw the $13.3m qualifying offer just to get a draft pick. Rather have Phelps or Vidal.

  • Cy Pettitte

    bet Phil implodes now

    • Cy Pettitte

      color me surprised

  • Wheels

    That’s on Robbie

    • The Real Greg

      I think it’s on both.

    • Dalek Jeter

      No way, Nix needs to know who is running down the line and make sure he gets the out at 1st.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Nice play boys.

  • The Real Greg

    By the way, I think Ichiro should be given a day of no criticism. Scored the game winning run last night has to get at least one night of reprieve.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      No. This is the big leagues.

    • Kramerica Industries

      What was he, 1-4, 1-5 yesterday?

      The rare extra base hit, that only came when the game went to extras, isn’t worthy of jack shit.

  • Kramerica Industries

    And I thought Nix could do no wrong.

  • WhittakerWalt

    I go to take a whizz and this is what I come back to.

  • Dan in Athens

    Under no circumstances should the Yankees extend Hughes. I can’t believe the talk of 5 and 60-70 million for a guy with an ERA closing on 5 for his career. And a fly ball pitcher in Yankee Stadium and vs. the AL East.

    • JonS

      I agree.

    • Dalek Jeter

      4.48 is closing in on 5?

      • Dalek Jeter

        Not saying they should/shouldn’t extend him (they shouldn’t at any more than 12 per) but come on, hyperbole isn’t how you make an argument.

        • Dan in Athens

          Not even at 5 million. His starter ERA is closing in on 5. Overall it is depressed by a great pen stretch. Replacement level starter.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

            lol

            • Dan in Athens

              Gee Mike, since his WAR outside of the bullpen season is under 8 wins in nearly 5 years (mostly done in none half of one season) and a win over replacement is worth about 4 million, do the fucking math.

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                When did replacement level become 1.6 WAR?

                • Dan in Athens

                  And you would pay a guy who racked up half of that in the bullpen and in three months 12-13 million a year? Even if he was a consistent 1.6, which his only twice over 150 innings and never 200 shows is a pipe dream, anyone paying more than 7 million is overpaying. Taking into account how the 1.6 has worked with inconsistency and injury, 5 million plus is a poor investment.

                  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                    Why are you bringing his (future) salary into a debate about his performance? You called him replacement level, and you’re wrong.

                    • Dan in Athens

                      Maybe because you have written multiple posts on this site claiming he is worth at least 12 million a year for 5 years and others with even more. His last three years have been pretty damn close to a replacement player. Additionally, since he throws way too many pitches and is hurt, you have to replace him with low leverage guys which further damages your team both in performance, burning the pen and roster moves.

                    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                      His last three years have been pretty damn close to a replacement player.

                      Except they haven’t. If you keep saying it, it won’t magically become true.

                      I’ve said that if he repeats his 2012 season in 2013, he’ll get Edwin Jackson money or thereabouts.

                      Salary is never commensurate with performance in baseball. The system doesn’t allow it.

          • Get Phelps Up

            His 2.3 and 2.5 fWARs in his two full seasons as a starter would disagree with that.

      • Dan in Athens

        Yes, when the 4.48 includes a 4.82 over the last three seasons that shows an upward trend, closing in on 5. The 3.03 year and bullpen are the outliers.

        • Dalek Jeter

          I didn’t realize we were picking and choosing. I went ahead and picked his full seasons as a starter, when he pitched to a 4.19 ERA.

          • Dan in Athens

            Cherry picking to not include the disastrous 6.6.4, this year or 2011? 4.75 is his starter number. Numbers don’t lie, but you sure as hell do.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Yes, I’m cherry picking a year in which he spent most of the year hurt, because we’re trying to figure out his actual value. let’s include this season though, because he is by all accounts healty and watch it bounce all the way up to..4.38

              • Dan in Athens

                Because eliminating injury concerns from a pitcher who has spent a good deal of time on the DL, plus has never thrown 200 innings in any season is an accurate and intelligent way to determine value going forward.

                • Dalek Jeter

                  And calling cherry picking on a year when he threw a total of 30 some-odd innings at the age of 22 is?

                  • Dan in Athens

                    No, I’m counting every inning, every dollar and every DL stint. When you count all stats, it isn’t cherry picking. Do you even know what that term means?

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      The 3.03 year and bullpen are the outliers.

                      your words.

                    • Dan in Athens

                      Well, I have advanced graduate studies in statistics and heteroskadacity. I used the overall number and showed why it was skewed in terms of leverage. So you can either take the stats classes or explain why decades of statistical analysis are wrong.

                    • Get Phelps Up

                      And yet you can’t even figure out what replacement level is. Ironic.

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      I don’t care if you’re a nobel loriate with advanced degrees from Harvard, MIT, Stanford, and a Rhodes Scholar. The numbers are this simple: he has a 7.2 fWAR over 5 seasons as a starter. So by definition he isn’t “replacement level.”

                    • Dan in Athens

                      Well, for two of the three years he has (including pace of this year) and average of less than 1 WAR. His 2013 has been no where close to 2012.

                      You keep thinking of his stats in a linear format. A true model of his performance would use a log or some type of exponential figure, to produce a more accurate model of expected performance. This along with factoring in the damage his does as a 5 or 6 and fly, plus injuries, would lead a rational statistician to believe he is approximately a 1 win above average performer going forward. That’s a lot closer to replacement level than 12-15 million.

                    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                      His 2013 has been no where close to 2012.

                      May 21, 2012: 5.23 ERA in 41.1 IP

                      May 21, 2013: 5.51 ERA in 47.1 IP

                      Difference is one run ever 35 innings or so.

                      This along with factoring in the damage his does as a 5 or 6 and fly, plus injuries, would lead a rational statistician to believe he is approximately a 1 win above average performer going forward.

                      You mean like the rational statisticians that put WAR together, the WAR that shows he’s not the 1 WAR player you pulled out of your ass?

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      So then decades of statistical evidence are wrong because they don’t fit your argument?

                    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                      Also, what the hell? Why is the quality of the reliever reflected on Hughes? That’s the team’s issue. I just just as easily say they’ll bring in an elite reliever and thus his value is closer to 2 WAR.

                      Doesn’t that sound silly?

                    • Dan in Athens

                      According to your analysis, a player that racked up 10 WAR in one year and then 4 years of 0 would be a 2 win player. Real stats show the leverage outlier should be minimized and the player is more likely a near replacement level player.

                      As for pulling out of my ass, what is more likely, Hughes will stray far from the mean like he did for 2 months last year or that he will stay close to overall statistical norms of his career? You seem to believe a 3.70 ERA or less going forward is likely, which would be against the mean. Fluke repeat themselves far less than overall performance.

                      If your analysis was correct, you’d believe Ichiro was going to hit .325/.370/.410 the last two months of the year because he did it last year. Yet, such an assumption isn’t anywhere in your work because it is a statistically invalid assumption. Claiming Hughes will automatically repeat an abnormal stretch is as silly as saying the same about Ichiro.

                      Use your stats consistently at least. I’d be happy to do a chat debate with you on regressions to the mean, leverage and non-linear analysis. The result would be the same. You are wrong.

            • Get Phelps Up

              Are you talking about his 2008 where he threw 34 innings as a 22 year old?

              • Dan in Athens

                Are you counting the year before or after?

                • Get Phelps Up

                  You said 6.6.4, which I assumed was talking about 2008 when he had a 6.62 ERA in 34 innings at age 22.

                  Excuse me for not thinking that is a strong argument against Phil.

  • JonS

    The world is now ok because Hughes has bounced back…

  • Dalek Jeter

    I love how people are shitting on Hughes as he’s K’ing a guy to pick up his infielder.

    • JonS

      Yes, because that changes everything…

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        He’s given up 2 runs so far. That’s pretty good for a #4 starter, last I checked.

        • JonS

          Good enough for 5/60?

          • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

            I hope not from the Yankees.
            I think he has to finish strong to get that from someone else.
            I’m opposed to giving any #4 or #5 starter a long term deal, Hughes or anybody else.

    • WhittakerWalt

      It’s just never easy with Hughes.

      • Dalek Jeter

        It’s not, but the same people who claim he’s garbage are the ones that are holding him up to his prospect shine of almost a decade ago. He is what he is, a decent, middle to back end guy, who strikes guys out at a decent rate but gives up a few too many homers.

        • Dan in Athens

          4.75 ERA as a starter. As for a “few too many homers,” that’s like saying Pol Pot killed a “few too many Cambodians.”

          • Pat D

            Um, no. That’s not nearly the fucking case.

            Look, we get it you hate Hughes. To compare his homer tendency to genocide? That’s a bit much.

            • trr

              I’m leaving before the Hitler analogy

              • Dalek Jeter

                I think we’re pretty good about Godwin’s law here. Though Dan’s post comes very, needlessly close to that wall…therefore he loses a lot of merit to his argument.

                • Dan in Athens

                  I’ll repeat:

                  According to your analysis, a player that racked up 10 WAR in one year and then 4 years of 0 would be a 2 win player. Real stats show the leverage outlier should be minimized and the player is more likely a near replacement level player.

                  As for pulling out of my ass, what is more likely, Hughes will stray far from the mean like he did for 2 months last year or that he will stay close to overall statistical norms of his career? You seem to believe a 3.70 ERA or less going forward is likely, which would be against the mean. Fluke repeat themselves far less than overall performance.

                  If your analysis was correct, you’d believe Ichiro was going to hit .325/.370/.410 the last two months of the year because he did it last year. Yet, such an assumption isn’t anywhere in your work because it is a statistically invalid assumption. Claiming Hughes will automatically repeat an abnormal stretch is as silly as saying the same about Ichiro.

                  Use your stats consistently at least. I’d be happy to do a chat debate with you on regressions to the mean, leverage and non-linear analysis. The result would be the same. You are wrong.

                  • Pat D

                    But your comparison was still completely ludicrous there, bub.

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      Also yeah, you compared the surrendering of homers to genocide. You…you basically lose.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      As is the fact that all the dropping of credentials and whatnot still wouldn’t give him any real advantage in a baseball argument over, say, Eddard.

                  • Dalek Jeter

                    I wasn’t sure if you were talking to me or not, because you quoted Mike as often as me. I’m going to go one argument at a time:

                    ” a player that racked up 10 WAR in one year and then 4 years of 0 would be a 2 win player.” In response to my Phil is worth X amount of WAR over 5 years as a starter. How is that any different than you saying he has an ERA of X as a starter? We’re both taking the good with the bad. In this case ERA makes your argument because it covers his good years, and weights lesser years equally, while WAR for me covers his bad years because it puts more weight on season where he…you know pitched for all of them.

                    “Fluke repeat themselves far less than overall performance.” You mean months, or stretches, where Hughes or any pitcher for that matter, will pitch far higher than their career norms, like Hughes did both early last season and early this season?

                    “If your analysis was correct, you’d believe Ichiro was going to hit .325/.370/.410 the last two months of the year because he did it last year.” No, because things outside of past overall performance should be taken into account when judging what a player will be going forward. Including Age, performance in recent months/seasons, the efforts/results of players of similar skill sets at similar ages. Stat’s don’t happen in a vacuum, even though I wish they did from time to time.

                    • Dan in Athens

                      3 things. First, a joke about how many homer Hughes gives up doesn’t make it go away,

                      Second, again Hughes’ career belies linear stats. Even if you wanted a linear analysis, the OLS would put his future projected ERA around 4.75.

                      Third, Mike flat out used an example of Hughes through May from this and last year only and expected a similar result outside of his career norms. This is no different from claiming Ichiro will before better in the second half by a large margin, just because he did it last year.

                    • Pat D

                      First, a joke about how many homer Hughes gives up doesn’t make it go away

                      And just because you’re trying to make a joke doesn’t mean your feeble attempt at humor wasn’t completely tasteless and pathetic.

                      Stick to your statistics if you want to try and argue a point.

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      1st. A tactless joke about genocide is a tactless joke about genocide.

                      2nd. Why? because they disprove your argument? We hold every single player to the same statistical lines. Why is Phil different?

                      3rd. He used two similar situations to prove that players go through (sometimes prolonged) slumps only to wind up with career-norm stats at the end of the season.

  • The Real Greg

    Very impressive by Hughes.

  • Eddard

    Phil did good to get out of that and they should call it a night for him. Let’s beat them again pen vs pen.

  • CountryClub

    Hell of a job by Phil. Nix cost him 8 pitches though. Looks like Claiborne for the 7th.

  • Get Phelps Up

    2 runs in 5 innings is just awful.

    • The Real Greg

      In which sense?

      Miguel Gonzalez has always pitched well against the Yankees.

      Phil Hughes took a huge step up from his last start.

      • Get Phelps Up

        I was sarcastically talking about Hughes.

  • Dalek Jeter

    I let Phil start the 6th, but the second he gets in trouble, he get’s the hook.

  • Winter

    Pre-integration era. Not ERA.

  • Pat D

    It’s great that Col. Ruppert is finally being inducted to the HOF this year. Too bad he’s been dead since 1939.

  • Eddard

    Can they hit the ball any harder right at people?

  • Wheels

    C’mon Pronk, knock the cover off the ball

  • Cy Pettitte

    They should try hitting the ball softer

  • The Real Greg

    Gonzalez at 80 pitches through 6.

    He’s coming off the DL and is managed by a guy who took Freddy Garcia out with 66 pitches after 6 innings.

    I don’t know where this is going.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      The Yankees have a shitty offense, what did you expect?

      • The Real Greg

        I wasn’t complaining about the offense.

        I was wondering whether Buck would pull him or not after 6 or in the seventh.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      Why might that be? Think Greg, think.

      • The Real Greg

        I think you all are misinterpreting my post. I’m wondering how Buck is going to play this.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Look at that: Miguel Gonzalez likely to pitch into the 7th, only 2 runs allowed.

    He’s been giving up rockets all game, but, still, getting shut down by this clown time and time again is seriously fucking annoying.

    • The Real Greg

      That’s baseball.

    • your mom

      Miguel Gonzalez is an ace.

  • dkidd

    romine passes the eye test in terms of framing

    • vicki

      he’s definitely getting better. every start.

      • dkidd

        stewart’s groin = pipp’s head

  • Dalek Jeter

    6IP 2ER…god he is SO TERRIBLE!!! It pisses me off that he’s even on an MLB team!!!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Replacement level!

  • Eddard

    Alright, Phil had a nice bounce back game. Now it’s time to go into that elite bullpen. Phil will remain #5 starter for now.

    • CountryClub

      His spot in the rotation wasn’t on the line

  • your mom

    So will Girardi let Phil face Dick?

  • vicki

    for all the sturm und drang, a quality start.

    • Get Phelps Up

      That seems to be the case quite often with Phil.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Hughes’ line is not bad: 6 innings, 2 runs 5 hits, 5 K, 2 BB.

  • CountryClub

    If Dickerson wasn’t coming up next, I’d send Hughes out for the 7th. But they can’t risk it unless the Yanks have a big inning here.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      Dick or no dick, they should go to the pen.

      • CountryClub

        The last 5 batters have been his best stretch of the game.

        • Rolling Doughnut

          He’s also at 102 pitches. Not convinced.

      • Winter

        New game show: Dick or No Dick

  • Dalek Jeter

    FUCKING BABIP ALL FUCKING SERIES

  • Eddard

    Jesus, they catch everything.

  • CountryClub

    A lot of bad luck for the Yanks tonight. Nice play, though.

  • dkidd

    this is a good game

  • The Real Greg

    This is looking like a “Curse the BaBIP gods game)

  • Rolling Doughnut

    O’s D is just fucking awesome.

  • Winter

    Boone Logan: resident LNOGY

    • The Real Greg

      And he strikes out Dickerson

      • Winter

        My MLB.tv is behind… why’d you have to and ruin it for me???

        I kid, I kid.

    • alittleblackegg

      LNOGY? Logan? Boone is pretty good.

      • Winter

        Did you see Mike’s post earlier today?

        .296/.296/.444 (.320 wOBA) against lefties on the year. Those aren’t LOOGY numbers.

  • your mom

    Sit down Dick.

    • Wheels

      Richard

  • CountryClub

    Well, it looks like Kelly has jumped back in front of Claiborne in the pecking order.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Put him away Boonie no Dicking around.

  • Dalek Jeter

    I don’t understand why Logan is constantly allowed to face RHH when guys like Claiborne and Kelley, and when he’s healthy Joba are in the bullpen.

    • your mom

      Because McLouth was next?

    • Eddard

      I think because it’s the #9 hitter and they want Logan to face McClouth.

  • Pat D

    Naturally he gets that call right.

  • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

    Blah, didn’t the same thing happen recently with CC on the mound?

  • Eddard

    Another call goes against the Yanks. This just isn’t our night and yet they still have a chance to win.

  • Winter

    Yamalco Fucking Navarro.

    • Dalek Jeter

      +1

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Cano would have been out by three feet

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      you spelled thirty wrong

      • Rolling Doughnut

        LOL

        • vicki

          i like that soaking-it-in gaze at the stands that kelley always does on his way back to the dugout.

          • vicki

            rispfail, obv.

            here i should write: me too.

            • vicki

              replyfail, that is.

              not even drunk.

  • Wheels

    Take your time Lyle, jesus

    • Rolling Doughnut

      Fuck that, Logan didn’t cover

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        LHP falling off to 3B. Overbay’s been playing first base in the show for a decade, he should now he has to hustle when a LHP is on the mound.

        • Rolling Doughnut

          Yeah yeah still didn’t get over.

      • Wheels

        still…

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Sure. NOW the first base umpire gets a call right.

  • CountryClub

    Overbay makes some questionable decisions at first. Too lackadaisical there.

  • Eddard

    Ok, that’s enough of Booney. Bring in the righty to face Machado.

  • Winter

    Shawn “K”elly?

  • your mom

    Well, that was fast.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Okay guys, let’s score some runs please?

  • JonS

    The next time Hughes as a typical start (which this is not), I want those who defend him to speak up.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      His bad starts aren’t typical either.

      He’s given up 2 runs or fewer in 28 of his last 52 starts (about 54%).
      This kind of start is more typical than the others.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Where’d you get this, I’m curious as to how many ‘quality starts’ he’s thrown in his career.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          Had to count in the game logs for this stat.
          As for quality starts, it’s 53 now, and can be found here:
          http://www.baseball-reference......ng_starter::none

          under starting pitching

        • Winter

          52. For a career QS% of 47%. Major League average is 50%. Career ERA+ of 96. So he’s been essentially league average.

          • Dalek Jeter

            And just for clarification for some of our readers who may have advanced degrees in statistics, League average =/= Replacement Level, right?

            • Winter

              Yes. League average is quite a bit better than replacement level.

              • Dalek Jeter

                I thank you for your time and efforts Winter. According to the Starks you are coming. And not soon enough.

  • JonS

    I noticed that Robertson didn’t shake Jones’ hand.

    #Drama

  • The Real Greg

    Tommy Hunter and Brian Matusz lights out in the pen. Part of Buck’s magic.

    • your mom

      Magic would be turning two shitty starters into two good starters, not turning them into good relievers.

    • Get Phelps Up

      I bet if Matusz was a Yankee you’d be bitching about only getting a LOOGY out of the 4th overall pick in the draft.

      • The Real Greg

        You’re damn right I would be.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Yet, somehow, you’re annoying in both scenarios.

      • JonS

        As opposed to picking in the bottom of the 1st and those players not getting to the majors at all…

        • Get Phelps Up

          Not the point.

    • Pat D

      Except Hafner DID get an insurance run-plating single off Matusz last night.

  • SeventhAce

    HAH! Johnson is up.

  • SeventhAce

    That curve ball had such a tight break and crazy spin.

  • Wheels

    DRob.

  • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

    Nice job D-Rob.

  • Eddard

    Their heart of the order strikes out 1-2-3. Wells, Hafner and Overbay against struggling Johnson to win.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    DRob nasssty

  • The Real Greg

    No they kept Hunter in.

  • dkidd

    they have dick but we own their johnson!

    just get us to johnson…

  • your mom

    Need some Pronk magic again.

  • Pseudoyanks

    Icewater Adams.

  • JonS

    I am nowhere near a baseball scout or event analyst, but I don’t see the subpar defensive ability of Adams.

    • Dalek Jeter

      He has been very impressive. I guess it’s one of those cases, like when Cano came up, everybody said he could field well enough but they weren’t sure he could hit well enough to stick…then for the first few seasons here everybody was wondering if he could field enough for 2nd base in the big leagues.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Kinda deep for Dick no?

  • Wheels

    Extra innings boys

  • your mom

    Impressive.

  • JonS

    I’m so happy the AAA crew is doing so well.

  • Eddard

    They really have played a lot of close ballgames the last two years.

  • Leg-End

    Johnson is gonna lose it again.

  • The Real Greg

    Not our night. That keeps happening.

    • Leg-End

      If we win tonight, we beat the BABIP gods too.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I won’t lie. I don’t have the energy for extra innings anymore.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Johnson’s rather lucky tonight

  • Dalek Jeter

    I’m pretty sure that the Orioles have like 27 fielders out there.

  • Kramerica Industries

    This offense is so fucking bad.

    • The Real Greg

      BaBIP does that to a team.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Fucking Ortiz breaks up Quintanas no hitter.

  • dkidd

    nuno-machado match up is a little scary

  • Pat D

    Well that was fucking fantastic.

  • Winter

    DO NOT MENTION THAT PITCHER. EVER.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Nate Fucking Mclouth? Really Freaking Nuno man…

  • The Real Greg

    This game was decided from the get go.

    Yankees were never going to win it.

    • WhittakerWalt

      That might be the hardest you’ve ever trolled right there.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Greg: More brilliant a troll than Eddard?

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        I don’t know. It’s Greg. He says some batshit crazy things sometimes.

  • your mom

    Fuck McLouth and the Orioles.

  • Leg-End

    Ah well onto the next one. The way the balls went tonight, was always gonna be a tough one to win.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Called that :(

    Blame Hughes.

  • Eddard

    Beaten by 3 HRs hit by Nate McClouth and Chris Dickerson. If that isn’t baseball I don’t know what is.

  • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

    I really hate Mclouth, he’s annoyingly good against us. Fuck the pigeons.

  • Wheels

    Oh well

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Well that’s no good.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    For some reason I feel like this loss sucked way more than yesterday’s win.

    I know people are going to say that this is a typical/expected response. But fuck it, it’s how I feel about it.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Tomorrow will either be better or worse.

      • Pat D

        The Yankees will either win or lose.

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        Statistics show that the game will most likely not be exactly the same. The odds are overwhelming. Research is being done to figure out if the correlation between a new game and different occurrences during the game is merely coincidental or if there is in fact a relationship. The jury is still out.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Do you have an advanced degree in heteroskadacity?

          • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

            No, but I can say the alphabet backwards. Does that count?

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Considering I just tried, and stumbled to get past “Y,” you win the internet tonight.

              • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                I’d like to accept this award on behalf of Prussia.

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      …Yesterday’s win was awesome, of course.

      Possibly because I feel as if we stole one yesterday but really should have won this game.

    • The Real Greg

      The reason is because it seemed that the Yankees were never going to win this game. They were never going to.

      Everything was against them. Umps, Players, BABiP Gods.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Pol Pot.

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        Yeah, perhaps it was all of the great plays the O’s made. Pissed me off.

        • Get Phelps Up

          Their 2Bman sure was a pain in the ass tonight.

      • Rolling Doughnut

        Do you have any idea of what you’re saying? Do you know this is a baseball blog?

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Meh. One of these was bound to happen eventually.

  • Dalek Jeter

    It’s because Kenny invoked the name of The-Pitcher-Whose-Name-We-Do-Not-Speak.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Tomorrow is Hirok Day.

    • Wheels

      I like our chances.

  • Mickey Scheister

    DFA Nuno please. The good news he can still start if we need him too.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    The worst part of this loss? Completely wasted a game thread in which a guy claimed having advanced graduate studies in statistics and heteroskadacity.

    Like that last one’s even a word, or something.

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      Not quite the same word, but close. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heteroscedasticity

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        The article also says “…often spelled heteroskedastic…”

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Does it say, “this word, when just dropped in the middle of anything, indicates high T scores in douchebaggery?”

          • Pat D

            No, only high Z scores. Which implies that it’s many standard deviations above the mean douchebaggery score.

    • Ethan

      I hope you’re joking. I’m not a statistician but heteroskedasticity is actually a real thing. It is when data has different levels of variance at different values.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I’m joking. I’m more poking fun of the need to drop credentials on a discussion as to Phil Hughes.

        • Dalek Jeter

          He just won’t quit. I’m ready to just let him win because I want to go out for a little bit. But somebody on the internet is wrong. I don’t know if I can handle it.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Wait, this argument is STILL happening?

            • Dalek Jeter
              • Robinson Tilapia

                My advanced degree thinks that’s slightly compulsive of him.

                • Dalek Jeter

                  I’d agree…but deep down I’m happy he did. I’m sadistic that way.

                  • SDB

                    Make him produce derivations and proofs of his arguments! (from a fellow sadist)

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      I’ll bring Mrs. Tilapia, who teaches statistics on a university level. Who’s got cred now, bitch?

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      Also….making fun of this argument >>>> the actual argument.

                    • SDB

                      Making fun of pompous idiots >>> listening to what they have to say. Always.

                      (Some people campaign for Prussia. Lesser people campaign for heteroskedasticity.)

              • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                Wow. That argument is all kinds of completely ridiculous.

              • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                Wow. That shit is all kinds of ridiculous.

                • Dalek Jeter

                  Scroll up a little bit to where it starts. It’s the first time I’ve ever really got into a 1-on-1 argument here.

              • DC

                Lock him and Matt in a room and see who’s ego consumes the other’s.

                • Pat D

                  Having been in plenty of arguments with Matt in the past, I’m going with him. I’ve never had a discussion with Matt where he didn’t even consider he was wrong.

                  • Pat D

                    Sorry, that should say “where he even considered he was wrong.”

                  • DC

                    I think it would be close, but I’m going to agree with you.

                • Get Phelps Up

                  And the one with the most ego left gets locked in a room with Greg.

                  • DC

                    Which would be Dante’s unpublished tenth circle of hell.

            • Dalek Jeter

              He hasn’t responded yet. Does that mean I win? God please let it just stop It’s so hot in my room I have to go get some air…

          • Get Phelps Up

            WAR is all Greek to him.

        • SDB

          People do strange and desperate things when they fear fly balls going into the stands. Maybe Hughes 0.2 IP/7 ER effort had a worse effect on him than it did on the Yankees.

      • Rolling Doughnut

        At different values of t you mean, right? It measures the evolution of the var over time.

      • SDB

        And it’s nothing that special. Just use robust standard errors and move on. Fancy word used in econometrics/stats to make people feel smarter for crunching numbers non stop.

        I’ll now go cheer against the Red Sox, even though this means putting up with (shudder) Hawk Harrelson.

    • Get Phelps Up
  • Cy Pettitte

    Vidal Nuno is the Jorge Vazquez of pitchers.

  • Pat D

    Well, stick a fucking fork in the Rangers.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Dang. 19-1 when we score first.