Ibanez wrecks the Yankees; Mariners win 12-2

Cave has four hits in River Dogs win
Death Strength by Bullpen

That was ugly. Every team goes has a few of this disaster starts each year, but that doesn’t make them any easier to swallow. The Mariners mopped the floor with the Yankees on Wednesday night, beating them 12-2.


This was definitely not one for the Phil Hughes career highlight reel. He became the sixth Yankees starter to allow at least seven runs in one inning or less this century, joining Bartolo Colon, Chien-Ming Wang, Mike Mussina, Jaret Wright, and Orlando Hernandez. I guess he’s in good company at least, outside of Wright. Tiny consolation price.

Anyway, Hughes was ridiculously awful. Rockets all over the field, including a grand slam into the bullpen by former Yankee Raul Ibanez. He faced ten hitters and eight reached base — six hits and two walks. Twenty-three of 36 pitches were strikes, but who really cares. Phil had nothing. Less than nothing, actually. You don’t give up seven runs and record two outs with good stuff.


Debut Night
David Adams and Brett Marshall became the fourth and fifth players to make their big league debut with the Yankees this season, joining Preston Claiborne, Vidal Nuno, and Corban Joseph. That seems like an awful lot of big league debuts for one season, especially for a veteran-loving club like the Yankees, doesn’t it? This was only the 40th game of the year as well. I wish I knew a way to look that up.

Adams went 1-for-4 with a solid two-strike single to center for his first big league hit, plus he played a pretty good third base. Made a few tough plays and all the routine ones. Marshall, meanwhile, really took one on the chin, surrendering five runs on nine hits in 5.2 innings. He walked five and struck out one, throwing only 56 strikes out of 108 total pitches (52%). Everyone gets a mulligan in their big league debut in my book, but I can’t imagine this is what he had in mind. With Joba Chamberlain ready to be activated off the DL, I have to think Marshall will be sent back to Triple-A Scranton on Thursday.

The Yankees scored their two runs on solo homers, one by Vernon Wells and one by Chris Stewart. Lyle Overbay was the only player with multiple hits, and he spent the last three innings resting on the bench. Robinson Cano did the same, but he went hitless and is mired in a little 9-for-41 (.220) slump. That dates back to the Athletics series. The only other player in the lineup who failed to get a was … wait for it … Ichiro Suzuki. He’s in an 0-for-20 slump and hitting .238/.281/.331 (57 wRC+) on the year.

Preston Claiborne chipped in 2.1 scoreless innings between Hughes and Marshall, allowing just a ground ball single while striking out two. He’s been very impressive so far. Infielder Alberto Gonzalez was on the mound for the final defensive out, but I’m not going to lie, I wanted to see Ichiro pitch. That would have been fun. Wells played second base for that one-third of an inning and didn’t have to make a play.

Marshall allowed a two-run homer to Ibanez in the fifth, ending a 28.1-inning scoreless streak by the bullpen. That’s pretty damn impressive. Ibanez has three homers in the two games; you think he misses Yankee Stadium at all?

Box Score, WPA Graph & Standings
Sad graph is sad. MLB.com has the box score and video highlights, FanGraphs some more stats, and ESPN the updated standings. Embedded Yankee Freddy Garcia helped the Orioles lose to the Padres, so the Yankees remain atop the AL East by two full games. It’s May 15th though, little too early to worry about that stuff.

Source: FanGraphs

Up Next
Same two teams will wrap up this three-game series on Thursday night. Andy Pettitte vs. Aaron Harang is your pitching matchup for the rubber game. RAB Tickets is the place to go for any last minute deals.

Cave has four hits in River Dogs win
Death Strength by Bullpen
  • Cy Pettitte

    A blowout loss is only for one night but that cotton candy .gif is forever. A fair trade in my mind.

  • Eddard

    Phelpsy is now locked into his rotation spot. Neither Hughes nor Nova has proven they’re a better option, let alone both of them. Hughes will have another start to keep his spot, otherwise it’ll go to Nova and they may be looking at trade suitors for Hughes before he enters into FA.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Hughes is a lot more than one start away from losing his rotation spot to Ivan Nova.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Back to EddardWorld we go.

      It’s going to take a hell of a lot more than one nightmare start to get him out of the rotation. Shit happens.

    • forensic

      I wish you were right, but unfortunately you’re nowhere near right.

    • LarryM FL

      He needs a few more incomplete performances before the Yankees even think about your comment.

  • Bob Buttons

    Kinda understand how Cleveland fans felt with Hafner.

  • Winter

    Wouldn’t it have been easier for Ichiro to pitch and Wells to play the outfield? Plus, isn’t he supposed to be able to pitch?

    • SeventhAce

      Correct, Ichiro used to be a pitcher and was told by the coach that he’s too short to be a pitcher…something along the lines of that.

  • pat

    Marshall’s debut was Adam Warren-esque. He’s always been lauded as mentally tough even when he was first signed. I’m sure he’ll get over it. Probably wasn’t expecting to get into the game in the 1st inning. Even having given up a bunch of runs he still almost went 6 innings which is a lifesaver. Stuff like that doesn’t. Go unnoticed in the locker room.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      fwiw, he entered the game in the 4th inning.
      Decent job eating innings though.

      • pat

        Whoops. Same idea at least.

  • Troll

    Hi PatD. I’ve missed you.

  • Tom Q

    I turned on the game late, and was startled to see the “7” in the visitors’ spot on the scoreboard. Decided to pass on the game thread, knowing Phil Hughes gets filleted by some when he’s pitching shutouts.

    Crappy game happens. Will be forgotten with the next win. (Assuming Hughes rebounds next start)

    • Bo Knows

      He get’s “filleted” as you put it because even when he’s pitching well, he’s doing the exact same thing that makes him an average at best pitcher; throwing nothing but fastballs and being predictable. If his heater isn’t working, he’s going to keep throwing it and it’s going to get demolished.

      • vicki

        i liked the use of “filleted”.

        • SeventhAce

          Shouldn’t it be “philleted”?

          • forensic

            Whatever it is, I’m just glad he’s a phree agent after the season.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Hughes sucked spectacularly tonight. I’m not dwelling on it. Shit happens. It still only counts as one loss in the record books, and it’s one inning out of 1,458 the Yankees will be in the regular season this year.

    Much more interested in Adams looking pretty decent out there, Claiborne proving that even middling relief prospects are worthy of our love, Brett Marshall taking a bullet for you fucking people, and Axisa wanting Ichiro shot to the motherfucking sun.

  • trr

    forget this game and let’s move on.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      What game?

      • SeventhAce


        • Havok9120

          What are we talking about? Where are we? WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?

          Why is there cotton candy??

          • LarryM FL

            Adams has a great swing and played competent defense. I want to see more. We want more.

            • Mouse

              I agree about his swing. He looks like a good hitter. He also played very good defense on the couple of balls hit to him. He has a very strong arm.

              Could he be our future third baseman?

              • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

                He is our density.

  • Curt and Bernie

    Why does Hughes get so much slack on this site when Nova gets none? I am not asking this simply because of one bad start. Outside of a few starts every year, when has Hughes ever been good? The best FIP he’s every posted in a full season of starting is 4.25, which is below average. He’s a subpar pitcher and any GM that gives him a 50 million dollar contract–as people on this site predict–is an utter fool

    • WhittakerWalt

      Maybe because Nova never thinks he’s pitched poorly? Phil will at least admit that he stunk up the joint.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Because a good 70% of what you read when things go south on here comes from the most over reactionary of the fanbase or is straight up trolling.

      • qwerty

        I don’t see how reactionary fans are all that worse than the ones who continually defend mediocrity. They are two sides of the same coin.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          And you’re the idiot side. Thanks. Drive through.

          *grabs cotton candy*

          • qwerty

            You gotta respect the opinion of someone who’s first reaction to a discussion is to start name calling. Carry on.

      • Mandy Stankiewicz

        Agreed. But it was still brutal.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      fwiw, AL average starter FIP was 4.31 last year, 4.15 so far this year, making 4.25 right about league average.
      Hughes is an average to slighly below average in the AL starting pitcher.
      I’m not sure which slack you think Hughes avoids. He gets slammed in the comment sections here frequently, even during his good starts. Nova gets more grief because he’s been worse over the past year or so.

      Outside of a few starts every year

      It’s more than a few starts every year. 2011-2013 he’s given up 2 runs or less in 27/54 starts (50%), compared to CC-44.2%, Nova – 28.3%, and Kuroda -56.2%. Hughes has plenty of good starts every year. The issue with Hughes is just that when he’s bad, he’s really bad.
      He’s a subpar pitcher

      He’s a #4 starter. He is what he is.

      • qwerty

        And yet, the majority of fans here thinks the yankees should offer Hughes some sort of contract if the previous poll is any indication.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          An average pitcher has value. 5 million per year is fair. The idea that 4/40 was fair value to Hughes was laughable then and even moreso now.

          • qwerty

            Let’s be perfectly honest, there is no reality in which Hughes will only take 5 million a year when he’s making more than that right now.

            • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

              League average (more or less) innings eaters who occasionally flash #2-3 starter stuff get paid in this league, for better or worse.

  • The Thumb

    Hughes had a 94.50 ERA today.

    Really nothing you can do besides laugh (and cry because I decided to stream him for my fantasy team tonight)

  • vicki

    enough about the blowout. how was the banana stand??

  • WhittakerWalt


  • SeventhAce

    I’m sure plenty of others will hound Hughes about this game, so I’m going to go ahead and ask the million dollar question(s) “how and why the fuck is Ben fucking Francisco still around?”.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Because Girardi knew he was going to have to pull all his regulars by the 6th inning?

  • Kramerica Industries

    Yeah, when I arrive and it’s 7-0 before the Yankees even have come to the plate, you’ll have to forgive me if I decide to save my bandwidth for the night and just duck out altogether.

    Kinda felt like a day off. Grab this series tomorrow and do the same to the Jays. We won’t think so much about this one in that case.

  • Brian S.

    With the emergence of Chen, Ryu, Iwakuma, and of course Darvish; does anyone else think that the Yankees are missing out on top flight pitching that is easy to acquire?

    • JobaWockeeZ

      They’ve tried it with Igawa, Contreras and Irabu. Didn’t work. But to be fair that’s the era when they didn’t even scout the guys..

      Still the likeliest way is to either draft one or IFA them. They’ve had plenty of talent, the Big 3, the Killer B’s and more but they need to stay healthy and the Yankees need to actually develop them and/or give them chances.

    • forensic

      Well, I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s ‘easy to acquire’ these guys, but yeah, I think they should be more active out there. Especially for Darvish. His numbers in Japan were absurdly good and trying to compare him to guys like Matsuzaka just wasn’t fair or accurate.

  • forensic

    Well, this sure was quite a game. This season sure has been basically a microcosm of Hughes’ career. No semblance of consistency or improvement that people always love to say he’s suddenly making or going to get. I continue to say there’s no way I go anywhere near re-signing him after this season.

    As for Ichiro, I was probably one of his biggest supporters prior to the season, but this is pretty ugly now. Right as he seemed to be hitting his stride and putting good numbers on the board, this 0-20 and 3-29 comes and makes him look like he couldn’t make a AAA team if he needed to.

    Somewhat rough day for Marshall, but he certainly put in a valiant day’s work going almost 6 innings with almost 110 pitches to save the rest of the bullpen. Of course, his reward will be a car ride back to Scranton in exchange for Joba, but he did the basic part of his job, save the more important guys.

    Adams looked solid at 3B and certainly didn’t seem overmatched at the plate, which is good. Unfortunately, you can’t say the same about Romine at this point. He’s almost making me more happy to see Chris Stewart as the starting catcher, and that’s very sad…

    • LarryM FL

      I agree with the last three paragraphs but number 1 is a bit premature in my thoughts. Not that Phil Hughes was not described well. Its about the total picture. Will Hughes improve? How will Pineda, Nova and Phelps do. Will there be injuries to our starters which offer and opportunity to the younger guys.

      All this will be assessed toward 7/31 and the end of the season.

      • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

        Completely agreed. He’s more or less league average and occasionally flashes #2-3 starter stuff. I was shocked for example at the % of his starts where he surrenders 2 runs or less compared to the other starters. Having a guy like this as your #4 has value. How much value for the Yanks depends on many other factors as you say.

        In any case someone will give him 4/40 at the very least (unless he completely sucks for the rest of this season) and most likely more. Maybe much more.

  • Bavarian Yankee

    another Phil Hughes Classic™

    some of my fantasy teams didn’t like that for sure.

  • Slu

    I am going to keep banging the drum. Please stop with the GIFs, or at least give us a way to hide them.

    • slus trollmeat sandwich

      I am going to keep banging the goat. Please stop with the slu, or at least give us a way to hide them.

    • BFDeal

      Your drum solo is getting old. Take your meds.