Mother’s Day Open Thread

(Kyle Rivas/Getty)

(Kyle Rivas/Getty)

Well that was a very satisfying weekend series against the Royals, don’t you think? Three games and three wins … can’t ask for much more. The Yankees have now won five straight and are guaranteed a winning record on this eight-game road trip. Things are going pretty darn well for the Bronx Bombers right now, far better than I think anyone could have reasonable imagined.

Anyway, here is your open thread for the night. The ESPN Sunday Night Game is a dud (Angels at White Sox), but at least the pitching matchup is solid (Wilson vs. Sale). There’s also some NHL and NBA playoff action on various channels. Talk about any of those games and more right here. Enjoy.

Oh, and Happy Mother’s Day to all of you moms out there. None of us would be where we are without you.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. teddy says:

    hate to say, i wish yanks had soriano right now, could use another shutdown reliever right now

    • Preston says:

      I’m happier that they had the money sitting around to get Vernon Wells. Plus I’m excited that we’ll have an extra pick in the first round. There are plenty of minor league guys who could come in and be good 7th inning guys and Joba will be healthy soon. Montgomery, Burawa, and Kahnle could all be impact guys by seasons end.

    • Bob Buttons says:

      Relievers come and go quite randomly. Not some position worth too much money on, barring few exceptions. Soriano is not one.

  2. nycsportzfan says:

    Rangers up 1 going into 3rd period, trying to force a game 7! Lets go Rangers!!!

  3. goterpsgo says:

    Caps fans annoy me. That’s all.

  4. Ethan says:

    I just graduated from University today! Just wanted to share.

    Also, happy mothers day!

  5. The Real Greg says:


    I think that Toronto saved their season for the moment against Boston this weekend.

    It figures that when we faced Cleveland last, they were struggling and now we make up those games when they are hot. Oh well.

    • Bob Buttons says:

      Eh for all we know we could have lost those original games and never regain our form.

      I don’t mind losing a few games against them after we’ve done so well so far.

      • MannyGeee says:

        While we often warn against ‘FALLACY’, truth is the Indians a month ago and the Indians of this week are two very different teams.

    • Eddard says:

      The Yanks are hot as well so this is likely to end in a split. And I’d be ecstatic with a split as we’re throwing our 5th starter and a spot starter out there, Mo has pitched 2 days in a row and 4 of 5 so I wouldn’t think he’s available. I do think Drob will be available for 1 inning since he made quick work of the 1 batter he faced today. A split would give us a 6-2 road trip. Not bad at all.

  6. Eddard says:

    Also, the lineups are going to be really thin in the DH tomorrow. I wouldn’t think Cano, Hafner and Wells will play both games. Maybe Cano plays 2nd one game and DHs the 2nd.

  7. Bob Buttons says:

    A tad late but, I have to say it’s kinda cool a team like Wigan won the FA cup.

    Of course, it helps that I don’t like Man City at all (same with Man U).

    • Ethan says:

      Agreed. It’s nice to see a non ManU, Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea succeed.

      • Bob Buttons says:

        People say “Big Four” period is over. Yes, so what? It’s maybe Big Six. Big difference.

        The year is even better with Swansea winning LC.

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      Strangely enough, United has never bothered me. Probably because their ownership group is the Glazers, who own the TB Bucs.

      Besides, you want to talk about money spending whores – that’s City and Chelsea. Since 2002, United is a couple hundred million pounds behind those two in terms of expenditures.

      • Bob Buttons says:

        I like other EPL teams and Milan and Bayern (along with several others in other leagues), so it’s more “it’s either they win or we win, so I don’t like them”.

        • MannyGeee says:

          I got to say I ‘follow’ the EPL team a lot less closely than I’d like to, but to see other people here appreciate the sport to this level makes me ecstatically happy. Cheers to you all!

          • Bob Buttons says:

            I used to be into it when I didn’t spend much of the year watching NFL and MLB, but I still like to read some stuff on soccer every weekend.

            Cheers to you too.

        • Kramerica Industries says:

          I’m still expanding the base in Europe. Perhaps the biggest problem in general for international people (relative to Europe as a whole) is trying to avoid being bandwagonish, but still supporting a team that is worthwhile to support, and a team that can be viewed on any kind of regular basis.

          I mean, sure, hats off to the Siena fans here in the States, but how often are you going to see them, and how often are they going to compete for the Serie A title? All of the top European leagues have significantly less parity than you see in sports leagues in the US.

          In Italy, it will often be Juventus, Milan, or Inter for the title. Maybe Lazio, Roma, Napoli, or Fiorentina makes a run in an odd year.

          Germany, it’s basically Bayern or BvB.

          England – United, Chelsea, and City right now. Arsenal might eventually reach the ranks again. Tottenham always has choking spurts, and Liverpool is a mess (thanks, John Henry!)

          Spain – Always, always, ALWAYS Real or Barca.

          It’s the natures of the leagues, really. No playoffs, so it’s truly the best teams over the full season that earn the accolades. No soccer team with an equivalent mark to the 83-78 St. Louis Cardinals will ever be a champion, and that’s a good thing.

          Personally, I loathe Barca, Liverpool, Chelsea, and City. I’m ambivalent on Bayern, though I am rooting for BvB on the 25th, especially with Goetze leaving for Bayern next season; it would amuse the hell out of me if he were joining the losing squad. I haven’t really sorted out among any of the other major clubs whether to like or dislike them (I guess I like Real in the “they aren’t Barca” way). Fortunately, it’s not like I have to decide by any set date how my allegiances will fall.

          • Bob Buttons says:

            What you said there does more or less sum up the situation for people outside of Europe towards European Leagues. Rarely do the non-bandwagon teams win anything considerable, yet at the same time it feels boring watching teams whose starting 11 out-value the entire opposing club. (which is different from MLB, since this is a case that they really can’t afford to field better teams in soccer).

            Personally some leagues I just bandwagon (due to lack of coverage for other teams) but for EPL I like to pick non-bandwagon teams since they actually have some English (language) coverage for the lower-hierarchy teams. For Bundesliga and Serie A, it’s just more convenient to follow the teams because they have more news reports and stuff in English. Though French and Spanish leagues are different for me. I actually like Bordeaux and Atletico Madrid (don’t ask why, I don’t know). For EPL I am a semi-loyal WBA fan (favorite team of the league but their week-to-week performance won’t affect my mood too much, unlike with the Yanks.)

  8. Joe R says:

    Anyone see Sergio Garcia do his best Tin Cup impression? Was great to watch. Cant stand him. Bring it home Eldrick.

  9. nycsportzfan says:

    Holy crap, 48seconds to go and Caps got empty net in 1-0 game, wit rangers leading, trying to force game 7!!! Just crazy action and nervous energy down the stretch!

  10. nycsportzfan says:


  11. nycsportzfan says:

    Both teams fist a cuffs after the game(rangers/caps)

  12. nycsportzfan says:

    What kinda contract will Cano get if he hits over 300 with 40hrs and 100ribs this yr?

  13. Mandy Stankiewicz says:

    Does anyone in NYC wanna play hard ball?
    We play co-ed baseball, wood bat-only pickup games at commodore barry park by the Brooklyn navy yard on Saturdays. If interested in playing with, maybe you play on a corp softball team and wanna get one game together, or know of anyone that does something similar, give a shout:

  14. McLovin says:

    Yes Rangers force game seven!

  15. TomH says:

    Well that was a very satisfying weekend series against the Royals, don’t you think?

    Absolutely. Who would have believed they would be in 1st place on Mom’s Day? Certainly not I. If they can keep it up till Granderson and Teixeira are back–and into July when others return–they’ll be tough to beat.

    I’ve been mocked for joining those who predicted the Jays would be a mean machine. I would only say it’s still early, and there are signs of some stirring life in their key bats. It would be ideal if the Yankees could sweep them again, as they come off a good series against the Sox.

    Joba: big mouth

    • forensic says:

      The Yankees still have 2 series (counting the DH as a series) before they play Toronto again. But yeah, when they get there some damage would be awesome. Because of their two days off before then, it’s tough to figure out who may start for them, but it looks like Buehrle will definitely be in there again. Likely Ramon Ortiz too. Then it’s between Dickey and Jenkins I guess for the Sunday game. Certainly a winnable series against that set of pitchers.

    • BFDeal says:

      And that mocking is well deserved considering how often you mocked those that disagreed with you (Pollyannas) and stated the Jays still had question marks.

  16. Dan says:

    Anyone heard anything on Pineda? The last news was from 10 days ago–is that a normal amount of time to go w/o pitching as far as rehab goes? There hasn’t even been word on him throwing a bullpen during that time.

    • CountryClub says:

      He was scheduled to throw another simulated game a few days ago. I would think that no news is good news in this case.

  17. Pat D says:

    Continuing on Tilapia’s idead from the Nunez to the DL thread, here’s my least favorite Yankee team:

    C – Ivan Rodriguez
    1B – Steve Balboni
    2B – Tony Womack
    SS – Bobby Meacham
    3B – Mike Blowers
    OF – Raul Mondesi
    OF – Dan Pasqua
    OF – Charles Gipson
    DH – Ron Kittle

    C – Joel Skinner
    IF – Rafael Santana
    IF – Cody Ransom
    OF – Bob Brower
    OF – Bubba Trammell

    SP – Ed Whitson
    SP – Steve Trout
    SP – Mike Witt
    SP – Terry Mulholland
    SP – Kenny Rogers

    RP – Greg Cadaret
    RP – Eric Plunk
    RP – Bobby Munoz
    RP – Xavier Hernandez
    RP – Armando Benitez
    RP – LaTroy Hawkins

    Missing the cut: Wilson Delgado, Kevin Elster, Luis Polonia (1st tenure only), Jose Canseco, Tim Leary, Jack McDowell, Ed Yarnall, Randy Keisler, Sean Henn, Jaret Wright, Al Holland, Pat Clements, Dale Polley, Mike Buddie, Jay Witasick, Kyle Farnsworth, Jose Veras.

    There are also a lot of guys who, as I went through the rosters, I remember liking as Yankees and hating immediately after they left. Either because of things they said or did or just a realization that they didn’t do as much as they should have. That list includes guys like Gary Sheffield, Mariano Duncan, Bobby Abreu, Chad Curtis, David Dellucci, Buddy Groom, a few others I’m just not remembering right now.

    Here’s a counter-acting idea. Come up with a list of brief-tenured / relatively insignificant Yankees that you liked and were never quite sure why. Mike Easler and Lenn Sakata!!!

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Balboni and the X-Man almost made the final cut for me as well. My dad never liked Balboni.

      Good stuff, dude.

    • RetroRob says:

      Have to work Mel Hall on that list somewhere.

      • Hall and Nokes says:

        Must…..stay calm……

      • Pat D says:

        I liked Hall when he was with the team. It was until years later I found out what a clubhouse cancer he was and then of course his legal shenanigans.

        • RetroRob says:

          His reputation really took a dive after he left the Yankees, but his personality issues did become known while he was still on the Yankees. I wanted him off the team because of that, and also because he epitomized what was wrong with the Yankees offense at that time. No ability to work counts, low OBP.

          Granted, my dislike of him grew even after he left the Yankees, but it ran quite high when he was here.

    • forensic says:

      I’ve read this three times and still haven’t found Carl Pavano. Does he have some alias I don’t know about?

      • Pat D says:

        I feel the guys I picked were worse than Pavano. Pavano kept getting hurt. The guys I picked were either gutless or truly awful. Or both.

        • Bob Buttons says:

          And Pavano is not gutless?

          Though I have to say for the most part I hate Pavano, but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for pitching one of only three PGs I ever achieved on MVP 2005.

    • nycsportzfan says:

      U must not of seen Tim Leary pitch if hes not at the top of ur He was dreadful!

      Also, Alvaro Espinosa, Andy Stankiwicz, and Dave Eiland..

      One guy i liked but he really never panned out was Pat Kelly..

      • Pat D says:

        Leary was awful, but so were all the pitchers from the ’89-’91 teams.

        I have no memories of Eiland pitching. Espinoza and Stankiewicz would make me “guys I liked for no good reason” list.

        As would Pat Kelly. Pat Kelly is from the area where I live, so of course I liked him.

        • nycsportzfan says:

          Well, we did have Scott Sanderson and Melido Perez back then. We were so pitching starved, that those guys were a couple of my fave’s just because i had never really gotten to see solid pitching to that

          • Pat D says:

            Forgot Sanderson was there in ’91. Melido didn’t join till ’92. I felt certain he was going to be great, but then he got hurt.

            • nycsportzfan says:

              Ya, he was always hurt. It sucked, becuase he was a strikeout, big horse, kinda pitcher, and if he had his health, could of been a great inning eater for us for yrs to come.

              Remember when our closer was Steve Farr???lol

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          Tim Leary was out there pitching innings, and ruining his career record, because no one else was going to.

          Tim Leary took a fucking bullet for you people. You speak nicely of Tim Leary.

          And I don’t even want to hear it as to Chuck Cary.

          I remember Eiland as both prospect and pitcher for sure.

          • nycsportzfan says:

            Sanderson won 16games the same yr that Leary won 4 with a ERA above 6.

            Your a punk, ey? Sorry I don’t have such a cool name like Robinson Tilapia. Thats so clever, your just one cool dude. Little bi-tch. Or should i say, Bizznitch!

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        This isn’t about guys that didn’t do well. This is about guys you don’t like.

        Oh wait..


    • adjusts batting gloves says:

      “Here’s a counter-acting idea. Come up with a list of brief-tenured / relatively insignificant Yankees that you liked and were never quite sure why. Mike Easler and Lenn Sakata!!!”

      Jose Cruz–[the batting stance]

      Mariano Duncan–[for the same reasons you dislike him?]

      El Duquecito–[nepotism!]

      John Candelaria–[no idea why]

      Pat Kelly–[it just never worked out for him, until the HR against Toronto]

      Alvaro Espinosa–[glasses! And Bob Shepherd pronouncing his name]

      • nycsportzfan says:

        Ya, i thought Pat Kelly was gonna be really good, but as u said, he never panned out, but i liked em. Espinosa sucked to badly with the bat for me to like em.

        Kevin Maas is another yankee i coulden’t stand, because all the hype, and his inability to hit anyhting but occasional HR..

      • Pat D says:

        I liked Duncan just fine in ’96. In ’97 when his production slipped, he lost playing time and he started bitching is when I began to dislike him. That, and the Phillies connection. He was on their ’93 team, if I recall.

        I always liked Candelaria, Kelly and Espinoza. Don’t remember anything of what Cruz did in 1988 and Adrian Hernandez gets lost in that shuffle of guys like Ryan Bradley and Mike Jerzembeck and Jay Tessmer, etc.

        • WhittakerWalt says:

          Duncan in ’96 was definitely one of the weirdest, flukiest .340 seasons you’re ever likely to see. Guy had NO plate discipline.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        Jayson Nix?

    • Bob Buttons says:

      I’ll ignore the never quite sure why criteria and swap it with “for stupid reasons”. A couple of them are a stretch since well, it’s Sunday and I gave up trying hard half way through.

      IF: Chris Stewart (yes, our current catcher. No idea why), Doug Mientkiewicz (despite being a former Sox and Twin), Andy Phillips (he certainly didn’t do shit for us, but no idea), Enrique Wilson (MVP 2004?), Mike Lamb (name??)

      OF: Bubba Crosby (no explanation needed), Shane Spencer (I like alliteration), Chili Davis (I like the name).

      B: Sal Fasano (awesome facial hair), Miguel Cairo (MVP Baseball), Mike Gallego (last #2), Bobby Bonds (alliteration), Paul Waner (awesome nickname, and yes, far back).

      SP: Sidney Ponson (his face makes me smile), Tanyon Sturtz (again, don’t know why but I like his name), Johnny Kucks (1956), Brian Gordon (yes, that one start guy. No idea why.), Josh Towers (mostly because of his hilarious season with Toronto).

      RP: Aaron Small (2006), Kyle Farnsworth (I like names that end in “-worth”), Jumbo Brown (his name is Jumbo.) Johnny Broaca (no idea. I saw his name once in a stat book and liked him immediately), Dick Starr (name), Tippy Martinez (name).

    • nycsportzfan says:

      Dave LaPoint was freaking awful as well. The Yankee i least liked in my entire life has been Tim Leary. That guy made me want to vomit when i was a kid watching that toolbag..

      • Pat D says:

        Yep. Him, Leary, Mike Witt, Andy Hawkins, Clay Parker, Jeff Johnson, Chuck Cary, Jimmy Jones, Walt Terrell, Dave Eiland, Steve Adkins.

        Basically anyone who started a game from ’89-’91.

    • Pat D says:

      Oh, one last thing. Who would manage this colossal fountain of hatred and lousiness?

      The one…the only……


  18. hogsmog says:

    I think Tampa is a better team than Boston, and is more likely to cause problems for the Yankees down the line.

    However, the irrational, evil part of my brain is rooting for a TB sweep this week that kicks the Sox into fourth. I think I’d like that very much, just because Sox fans were so insufferable in April.

    • Swing Batter Swing says:

      Sox fans gotta root for something because they won’t have much at the end of the season.

      “Go ahead and celebrate in April, we’ll dance in October.”

  19. Swing Batter Swing says:

    Just out of the photo to the left is Joba telling Mo not to shush him again…

    • Manny's BanWagon says:

      I guess despite all the time they’ve spent together, none of Marino’s class rubbed off on Joba

      • forensic says:

        And to follow along Wally’s method of writing…

        It was Rivera, not Chamberlain, who started this whole waste of time by thinking a ballpark should be like a library or church.

        • Manny's BanWagon says:

          Yeah, trying to do something nice for a family that has suffered an unthinkable tragedy is a waste of time. Mo should have known better.

          • forensic says:

            What does him doing interviews long after all of that already happened have to do with him doing something nice for a family???

            • Manny's BanWagon says:

              Mariano just met with those families yesterday and it seems like it was pretty special for those families.


              Can’t believe someone could find fault with Mariano in this instance.

              • forensic says:

                That’s great and all, I’m not finding any fault with that stuff.

                But the whole issue here is from long after that happened and Mo was just sitting in the dugout with reporters doing interviews. It’s not like the family was sitting there with him or anything like that.

                He somehow thinks a baseball stadium should be silent during his interviews. If he wants that, then go find a corner of the clubhouse, or the media room, or somewhere else.

                • Manny's BanWagon says:

                  Joba should have had the common decency to not scream like a fool into the stands when I’m sure he could plainly see Mo doing an interview nearby.

                  It’s not like these guys aren’t use to this type of things. To warn Rivera twice with his veiled threats in front of reporters was pretty classless IMO and to not be the least bit apologetic about it afterwards further illustrates the kind of person he is too.

                  • forensic says:

                    He wasn’t screaming like a fool. All the reports are that he was talking to his family and fans in the stands. They are certainly going to be farther away from Joba than the reporters would be from Mo, as they were likely right on his lap like they are with Girardi.

                    And no, Joba didn’t have the right reaction afterwards, and I’ve acknowledged that, but Mo starting the whole thing with a sarcastic remark about Joba to all the reporters and then telling him to be quiet when he’s trying to talk to his family is just about as bad.

                    I know, many people are just going to take Mo’s side because it’s him and they aren’t the biggest fans of Joba the person, but Joba’s not the only one at fault here.

                    And the fact that’s it’s been discussed this much is kind of sad in itself…

                    • Manny's BanWagon says:

                      Matthews heard the tape and reported Joba was “nearly screaming on the top of his lungs” and Rivera as “politely” asking him to quiet down.

                      Unless you’re calling Matthews a liar, I see Mo as having done absolutely nothing wrong here and Joba once again making a fool of himself.

                      I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

  20. mustang says:

    Get Phelps Up says:
    May 12, 2013 at 4:54 pm
    10 games over .500 now.
    In comparison, last year’s team didn’t reach that mark until June 11.

    Says a lot to me.

    I come to a revelation like another commenter here:

    No sense in arguing with the pessimistic and those waiting for this team to play down to their pre-season predictions.

    I’m just going to enjoy this team because I have a glut feeling that this team has the chemistry and aura to do something special.

    Yes I feel the Yankees mystique is back!!!

    • mustang says:

      Feelings like the right song for this team.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Really loving your comments lately. You’re just plain being a fan. You’re not trying to be first to cut and paste someone’s obscure stat off if Fangraphs or cite some Scott’s report off of Hoigle in order to demonstrate why the team shouldn’t bother with x player. It all may enhance fandom, but it makes no one any more able to predict what’s coming next. Sometimes, Lyle Fucking Overbay and Vernon Wells will bail your ass out.

      #28 is coming, bitches.

  21. Jonathan says:

    I get to see them 3 times a year while in KC and this was AMAZING. I got CC/Andy autographs on the sweet spot, 2 Rivera autographs (1 on the sweetspot and one on a 1999 WS ball) and Cano on a 2011 Home Run Derby gold ball. All that and got to see Mo close it down twice and a sweep. EPIC weekend.

    • mustang says:

      Very cool good for you dude.

      • Jonathan says:

        Thank you…it was just amazing. Royals fans still think we’re rivals and they booed Cano EVERY AB because of the Billy Butler thing still and watching us beat them was so perfect since the fans bail super early all the time or anytime they get behind. That and they know NOTHING about baseball but yell stuff constantly like they’re geniuses. And I sat 5 rows behind the 3rd base dugout…not in the upper deck.

  22. Hall and Nokes says:

    You can’t spell M-O-M without Mo

  23. nycsportzfan says:

    Casper Wells just ripped a double off CJ Wilson. I only bring this up because i remember seeing his name a few times on here as possible pickup.

    • MannyGeee says:

      I’m not entirely positive this is on Wells, as much as I am thinking CJ Wilson is regressing to his pre 2011 form. I was never sold on him being the ace he got paid to be,.

      • nycsportzfan says:

        I agree, but you can’t take anything away from Wells double, as its still a decent ML’er. Albeit, I don’t care we didn’t sign em, but figured I would post because i remembered seeing his name on these boards.

      • Manny's BanWagon says:

        With Wilson, Pujols and Hamilton, the Angels are learning first hand how free agency can be a double edge sword when you give out huge money multi year deals.

        • MannyGeee says:

          Yup, welcome to the better part of the past 15 years in Yankees history. Also, they shoulda called John Henry before signing those contracts.

  24. nycsportzfan says:

    Chris Sale is nasty.

    • Manny's BanWagon says:

      He sure is but I wouldn’t be surprised if he breaks down or fall off this year. He went from 70 to 190 innings pitched the last 2 years which seems like an insane increase IMO.

      I saw him ranked on a couple of lists predicting which pitchers would regress or break down in 2013

      • nycsportzfan says:

        He certainly got a strange motion, but i don’t buy the work thing, as these guys were throwing million innings a yr forever, before we started babying these guys. I think he wears down or gets hurt no matter what he does if that is gonna happen to him. But as of right now, the kid looks insane.

  25. nycsportzfan says:

    CC Sabathia vs King Felix on Tuesday. MLB must love having that matchup from the stadium. Should garner some intrest.

    • forensic says:

      The Yankees haven’t had a series against the M’s where they haven’t faced Felix since 2009, 10 series ago. That’s kind of annoying.

  26. How could there be an all time anti Yankee team w/I
    Dave Kingman? I would pick Dwight Gooden
    and Daryl Strawberry as the two biggest jerks.
    It would be hard to think of two equally talented
    players who completely trashed potential HOF

    • Pat D says:

      Who said it was an anti-Yankee team?

    • ArchStaonton says:

      You know, I got to meet Darryl at a minor league game last year, and he was as nice a guy as you could ever hope to meet. Everyone else was basically pushing their stuff forward, having him sign it, and then rolling without a word, but I talked to him for a bit and I found him to be very nice. He was also wearing a Yankees watch, which was cool to me for some reason.

      He did blow a lot of talent, no question – but I don’t think he is a jerk, or at least, he isn’t any longer.

  27. forensic says:

    You know, Josh Hamilton’s numbers for the season are pitiful and it’s sure fun to look at them:

    .207/.258/.338, 5 2B, 1 3B, 4 HR, 11 RBI, 8 BB, 44 K in 36 games

    What’s more fun than that though? Looking at his numbers against everyone except the Astros:

    .189/.239/.221, 4 2B, 0 3B, 0 HR, 5 RBI, 7 BB, 39 K in 30 games!!!

  28. nycsportzfan says:

    6 Perfect innings for C.Sale.

  29. Get Phelps Up says:

    Chris Sale with 6 no hit innings on just 65 pitches!

  30. nycsportzfan says:

    I got a feeling Konrko about to unload on CJ Wilson here.

  31. nycsportzfan says:

    I could be wrong, CJ Wilson with only one more out to get outta this. I just keep waiting for him to give up the game, which has the feel of 1st to score wins. He keeps playing with fire and getting outta it.

  32. Robinson Tilapia says:

    I see we’ve turned my “Yankees I didn’t like” team idea into trying to determine some sort of definitive list.

    Folks, THAT’S NOT THE IDEA! If you want to go ahead and do that, that’s fine. It’s not at all in the spirit of my original list, though. That was purely my subjective list of players I never liked in a Yankee uniform. If you want to put Robinson Cano and Derek Jeter on your own list, more power to you, because it’s your list, but there’s no definitive answer to what I was trying to do.

    I blame Cashman. Cashman failed.

    • Bob Buttons says:

      Technically it is his fault. If he was born 90 years ago and was age less our lists could be so much more definitive.

    • Manny's BanWagon says:

      “Cashman failed”.

      Maybe you can start a list of front office guys, GMs, Managers, bench, hitting and pitching coaches, trainers, etc who you didn’t like.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I never disliked a manager. Closest I came were the later Torre years.

        GMs? I don’t think I paid attention until Michael and Cashman.

        Never liked Eiland as pitching coach. Thought Guidry was meh as a coach, but he was the fucking Gator, so I can’t speak ill of him. They switched pitching coaches every three seconds when I was a kid.

        Bobby Meacham makes my list as both player and coach.

        • Manny's BanWagon says:

          Why do you hate Meachem so much?

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            It felt like he was at SS forever at the time despite not really doing anything well… a teenager’s eyes. He was probably SS for a year and a half. It felt like half the 80′s.

            I think we can all agree he wasn’t the best third base coach we ever saw.

            • Manny's BanWagon says:

              Yeah, SS’s from the dark years.

              Meachem, Andre Robertson,Wayne Tolleson, Roy Smalley, Alvaro Espinosa, Randy Velarde et al all pretty much sucked the big one.

              • Pat D says:

                Smalley had a really good year in either ’82 or ’83, but he wasn’t meant to play short. The other guys were really all utility infielders at best, except for Velarde who had a bunch of decent years post-Yankees.

                • Robinson Tilapia says:

                  Robertson’s trajectory was messed up by injury, but my understanding was that he was very well-liked by the organization.

                  Everyone else was the type of average-to-mediocre shortstop that most teams really did have at the time. We’ve been spoiled by the SS’s of the past 15 years. They weren’t all Jeter, Tejada, Alex, and Nomar back then.

        • RetroRob says:

          Dallas Green. I strongly disliked Dallas Green.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            My recollection was that a few guys overachieved under him, but his post-Philly managerial jobs were certainly a dud overall.

            The ghost of Casey Stengel couldn’t have saved those teams, though. That’s why company guys like Stump and, at the time, Buck, were probably the way to go.

  33. SDB says:

    There goes Sale’s perfecto…

  34. forensic says:

    Pujols looks like he’s 110 years old “running” out there. I said it a couple weeks ago, and I think it’s about there, he’s nearing the point where he’s hurting the team more than helping and it may be time to just try to take care of the issues and get it done.

    • Manny's BanWagon says:

      Plantar fasciitis hurts like a bitch. I can’t believe he’s lasted this long.

      That contract is gonna end up worse than Arod’s IMO.

    • MannyGeee says:

      Wait… Are you suggesting the angels euthanize Albert Pujols? Because while I think it would bring in MONSTER ratings, it might be a step too far. Solid points for creativity though.

      Seriously, I am starting to wonder if he had a Biogenesis account while in St Louis. And in addition, how smart does St Louis letting Pujols walk look right now?

      • Bob Buttons says:

        On a similar level compared to Angels letting Hamilton walk.

      • forensic says:

        Well, if that’s what it takes then so be it. It doesn’t hurt, it’s a very peaceful end.

        Hell, maybe they’d prefer something like that rather than seeing first-hand what the next 8(!) years are going to be like.

  35. Manny's BanWagon says:

    If anyone has the misfortune of turning on the movie “Super” with Rainn Wilson, do yourself a favor and quickly change the channel.

  36. forensic says:

    It’s amazing how terrible the White Sox offense is. Dead last in the AL in BA, OBP, SLG, and runs.

    Dead last in the Majors in OBP and second to last in BA, SLG, and runs, only ahead of the Marlins.

    They have 6 qualifiers for the batting title, and 5 of them have sub-.300 OBP’s and 4 of them have sub-.400 SLG’s.

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