Saturday Night Open Thread

2013 Draft: Marco Gonzales
Whitley returns from DL in AAA loss
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Two dingers for Robbie this afternoon. (Jim McIsaac/Getty)

Nine games against the Blue Jays, eight wins. That’s pretty awesome considering how Toronto was crowned the offseason champs while the Yankees were widely picked to finish last following their slews of injury. If they finish off the sweep behind CC Sabathia tomorrow, they will have won their first seven home games from their division rivals to the north. Dominance.

Here is your open thread for the night. MLB Network will air a game later tonight, plus you’ve got NHL and NBA (Knicks!) playoff action. Talk about any of that and more here. Have at it.

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2013 Draft: Marco Gonzales
Whitley returns from DL in AAA loss
  • Pudge

    Lets go Knicks!!

  • Wheels

    Nice choke, Orb.

    • trr

      Blame the jockey.
      Not that I know fuck-all about horse racing…..

      • Pseudoyanks

        Orb had a horrendous trip. The jockey will get the blame. He started from the one post and that made it challenging but the jockey did make a couple of tough decisions that didn’t work out and cost him the race and we’ll probably find out in 3 weeks (when he wins the Belmont Stakes) that it reallybcost him the Triple Crown.

        • JRod

          Ridiculous. It wasn’t the jockey’s fault. The horse had NOTHING. No excuse at all. He’s just nowhere near as good an the ignorant have puffed him up to be.

          • Pseudoyanks

            You’re ignorant. The horse started and checked 3 times. You don’t do that and win at the classic level. Fool.

            • forensic

              Wow, such anger, by several of you. Might have to add horse racing to politics and religion on the unwritten list of things not to be discussed here.

              • Pseudoyanks

                Haha, I grew up with Horse Racing. Was at Belmont Park when Seattle Slew and Affirmed took the last 2 Triple Crowns. I won’t be trolled on Horse Racing by a fool who just lost a two dollar bet. ;)

                • JRod

                  Pseudo is right. You know nothing about horse racing. Thought you could stumble into this forum and fatuously blame the jockey? Not having it. The horse had no excuse and you’re just going to have to deal with it. All of your woulda coulda shoulda blame the jockey is classic loser talk. How much did you lose on Orb, whining peon?

                  • Pseudoyanks

                    Keep up with the therapy…a lobotomy doesn’t heal itself overnight.

  • Dela G

    anyone notice how well chris dickerson is playing this year? Would’ve been nice to play him instead of the corpse of ichiro

    • FIPster Doofus

      I forgot about him, but I did just look at Eric Chavez’s stats. Whoa.

      • Dela G

        chavez is killing it

    • Laz

      25 AB, 24 of them vs rhp. Not exactly a large sample size. I don’t put a whole lot of stock in 8 hits.

  • Dela G

    anyone notice how well chris dickerson is playing this year? Would’ve been nice to play him instead of the corpse of ichiro suzuki

  • Laz

    Anyone have trouble recently where Google Chrome can’t see the new topics/new posts on old topics. When go to IE, it all goes fine.

    • Bob Buttons

      A bit too late for “recently”.

      But totally didn’t know that about IE. Then again, I rarely use IE.

  • Dicka24

    I can’t believe this team is in 1st place. If you told me they’d be after all the injuries, in the middle of May, I’d say you were nuts. I was hoping they could hang around .500 till the big guns start to come back. Just hoping they wouldn’t dig too deep a hole. Boy, what a terrific job so far. A little bit of a luck, a little bit of good planning, a little bit of good coaching, and a lot of baseball as it should be played. Pitching, defense, and timely hitting. Not softball like they’d been playing for most of the last decade or so. Good job Yankees!

    • FIPster Doofus

      Nine playoff appearances and a World Series victory in the last decade. Not bad for a softball team.

  • Dela G

    jim johnson is melting down for my fantasy team

    good lord

    • FIPster Doofus

      Over a year’s worth of regression in one day.

  • forensic

    Two straight blown saves for Jim Johnson. It’s a beautiful thing.

    And apparently that’s all it takes for O’s fans to turn on someone who’s been so terrific for them for awhile now as he was booed pretty well through much of the inning.

    • Dela G

      absloutely murdering my fantasy team’s ERA this week

      • Laz

        Gives the Yankees more buffer room, now if the Sox could lose a few more.

    • vicki

      two b/s in his last two appearances, and he too an L a couple weeks ago; plus he was pretty bad last post-season. all those new o’s fans can’t be expected to know what he did for the team before that.

  • vicki

    on another note, when is james loney going to remember he’s supposed to be league average?

    • Laz

      He is actually a pretty good platoon bat. For some reason though this year he is mashing lefties.

      • vicki

        i was just looking at that; he’s not starting against lefties.

        so, blame donnie?

        • Bob Buttons

          Why is his ex-manager at fault?

          • vicki

            for my earlier opinion of loney’s talent. he played every day in LA.

            • Bob Buttons

              In Donnie’s defense, McCourt was a cheap bastard and he really was a league average guy until he fell apart Russell Martin style (minus the homers).

              • vicki

                they were both somewhat burdened by excellent rookie campaigns, martin’s glory persisting a few seasons longer. i guess i won’t let you engage me in the russ talk.

                mccourt’s thrift landed us hiroki, so i celebrate it.

  • KEN

    TEXAS CALLS WANT TO TRADE PROFAR,OLT AND HOLLAND FOR CC. MAKE THE TRADE?

    • Brian S.

      Yeah no shit. But baseball teams aren’t dumb.

      • FIPster Doofus

        The Rangers aren’t. Some kind of are – i.e. ones run by Ned Colletti.

        • Bob Buttons

          Or Amaro Jr.

    • MannyGeee

      ummmmm yes. wake me when that happens though.

  • Brian S.

    Why is the draft still so far away. I want more prospects to horde.

    • Laz

      So we can see the first round pick get injured?

      • Bob Buttons

        That’s still more fun seeing them reach and fail hard.

        • And in merrie olde England

          Reach Charleston?

      • Brian S.

        Injured or terrible in Low-A.

  • CONservative governMENt

    I do agree its nice to see the Yankees do so well after websites like River Ave Blues were so pessimistic during the offseason.

    • Laz

      I defended them all winter, but didn’t expect this good. I figured they get off to a bit slow start and hang around as a contender with Toronto, etc for the year.

    • Bob Buttons

      FWIW I don’t think any sizable fan site picked the Yanks for first place in mid-May, but Mike being quite focused on the “downgrade” at catcher didn’t help. To be fair, so far he’s been damn right about Ichiro.

    • lightSABR

      I’m quite happy to eat crow, but I will point out that I wasn’t one of the ones predicting a losing season or anything like that–just a mediocre 85-88 win season without ever seriously contending for the playoffs. After the injuries, I thought even that was probably overoptimistic. Here’s hoping I keep being wrong.

      Okay, two more points in my defense: first, we’re outperforming our run differential by a couple of games, and that and our performance in one-run games both suggest that we’ve gotten a bit lucky. Second, and more impotantly, we’ve had lots of players outperform their projections, often by a lot: Hafner, Overbay, and especially Wells, heck, even the catchers have all done better than expected. Out of nine spots in the lineup, only shortstop (Nunez & Nix) and third outfielder (primarily Ichiro) have underperformed expectations. That’s not normal at all, and you can hardly blame me for not foreseeing that.

  • FIPster Doofus

    Joey Votto’s wOBA for today: 1.157. He’s good.

    • Bob Buttons

      He is one of a kind specimen. He makes such good contact that he literally hits like one or two IF pops a year.

      • And in merrie olde England

        Read about that on Fangraphs, apparently he pays attention to his mechanics and works on things instead of giving up and pulling everything he can find into the teeth of a shift.

        • vicki

          that’s some top-shelf snark right there.

          • And in merrie olde England

            I seem to be in that kind of a mood more and more where Teix is concerned. He’s deteriorated as a player and it grates how blasé about it he’s been.

            I do think without A-Rod to vilify there would be quite a few calls for his head on a stick by now.

            • WhittakerWalt

              I still like Tex, but his slide into non-greatness has been frustrating to watch. He used to be an all-fields elite power hitter. Now he’s basically Dave Kingman but with good defense.

              • TomH

                I’m not convinced his problem is, in that favorite concept of RAB, evidence of “decline.” The crowd noise from that right field porch must be like the songs of the Sirens to a left-handed hitter with power. He probably hates it when southpaws force him to turn around.

                • WhittakerWalt

                  I’m sure it is. But you’d think after the 500th weak grounder into the shift and the 700th pop-up to shortstop, he’d think about taking the outside pitch the other way for a change.

    • Laz

      Someone I would have really liked to see on the Yankees. He gets on base at an insane rate, would have never signed him to 12 years in future like Cincy did though.

  • JRod

    8-1 against the Jays, a savage rebuke to the fools who whined about the Yankees sitting on their hands during the offseason.

    • TomH

      In Julius Caesar, remember the Soothsayer who warns Caesar to “beware the ides of March”? On that fateful day, as he walks to the Capitol, Caesar spots the guy and gloats, “The Ides of March have come.

      The Soothsayer: “Aye, Caesar, but not gone.

      It’s mid-May. What can’t go on, usually, at some point, stops going on.

      • lightSABR

        Nice.

  • Pat D

    Doctor…Who?

  • Eddard

    We have quite a few Yankees currently in the lead for individual player awards. Should be interesting to see if they hold up-

    MVP – Robbie Cano
    Cy Young – Hiroki Kuroda
    Comeback POY – Vernon Wells
    ROY – Adam Warren
    Manager of the Year – Joe Girardi

    • Brian S.

      If it was today

      MVP-Evan Longoria
      Cy Young-Felix Hernandez
      Comeback POY-Vernon Wells
      ROY-Nick Tepesch
      MOY-Georgia Roddy or Terry Francona

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        Hey, I’d be solid with that. At least we got one out of five.

      • Mandy Stankiewicz

        Have you seen MIggy’s offensive numbers?

    • forensic

      Would be interesting, except that none of Cano, Kuroda, or Warren are leading (or are arguably even all that close to leading) in any of those categories. It’s also difficult to see a Yankees manager win manager of the year with their payroll, regardless of the injuries and what have you. Wells is possible for comeback player.

      • Brian S.

        I think that there has been a lot of press about the Yankees’ injuries so Girardi definitely has a shot at it in my opinion. I’ll be interested to see where Cano’s WAR ranks after today but entering today what I put above seems like the most realistic.

        • Laz

          Sure, but if current standing hold up I have a hard time imagining that Terry Francona gets overlooked.

        • Eddard

          If the press about the injuries helps Girardi then it helps Cano just as much because he’s their best player that has held the offense together.

          • Laz

            Cano is great, but he isn’t even close to the lead. Machado, Miggy, Trout, Santana have all been much better. There is still plenty of time though.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          Yeah, I’m not sure Cano would even be Top 5 MVP right now.
          I’d say Longo, Machado, Santana, Miggy, and Chris Davis would all be ahead of Cano right now, and possibly a few others as well.

        • forensic

          FYI, after tonight Cano is tied for 11th in fWAR.

    • Pinkie Pie

      I’d think Mariano would be a better candidate for Comeback POY, no?

  • dkidd

    just saw star trek into darkness

    fun but really really really stupid

    you can do better, jj

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      I thought it kicked ass. To each his own.

  • vicki

    damn, braves. that’s a lot of sub-mendoza in your first-place team’s lineup.

    • MannyGeee

      BJ Upton has gone completely limp. Like, I expected him to regress to a non-Tampa form a la everyone else that Tampa doesn’t resign, but not Crawford bad.

      • forensic

        Like you, I certainly expected a decline from Upton, and Uggla being down there isn’t all that surprising either. But, Heyward is the surprising one, at least a bit. Like Ichiro, he had an 0-20+ stretch that he’ll be fighting back from all season.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    So, since it’s become a conversation topic:

    In the offseason I was hoping for one of the wildcards and around 86-88 wins. Once the playoffs hit I think it’s more or less a crap shoot, so I didn’t make a WS pick.

    So yes, this year’s team so far has wildly exceeded my expectations and predictions.

    …Also, the new Star Trek kicked ass.

  • Wheels

    Welp, basketball season is over.