Jun
09

2013 Draft: Reviewing Day Three

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After three days and 1,216 total picks, the 2013 draft is over. The Yankees selected 42 players overall, including the final 30 on Saturday afternoon. As expected, most of those final 30 picks are fringy prospects and organizational types, though the Bombers also squeezed in a few long shot high-end high schoolers and nepotism picks. All of the team’s picks can be seen at Baseball America.

(Oklahoma Christian University)

Coshow. (Oklahoma Christian University)

Go Big Or Go Home
It’s no secret the Yankees love physically huge players, specifically on the mound. They drafted 16 pitchers on Day Three, and those 16 guys average 6-foot-3 and 207 lbs. The 11 college pitchers average 6-foot-4 and 219 lbs. They weren’t messing around; size is the sixth tool for New York.

The biggest of the big is Oklahoma Christian RHP Cale Coshow (13th round), who is listed at 6-foot-5 and 270 lbs. on the school’s website. Obviously keeping his weigh in check has been an issue, but Coshow also sits in the mid-90s as a starter and will also throw a curveball and changeup. He spent two years at Oklahoma as a scarcely used spare pitcher before transferring to Oklahoma Christian, so his arm has very few miles on it. Coshow can start and offers sneaky good upside, but the Yankees are going to have to work hard with him on his conditioning.

San Diego State RHP Phil Walby (12), Sam Houston State LHP Caleb Smith (14), and UNLV RHP Andy Beresford (19) highlight the rest of the large pitcher crop. Walby (6-foot-3 and 215 lbs.) and Beresford (6-foot-6 and 200 lbs) are pure arm strength guys who run their fastballs into the mid-90s. Both lack secondary pitches and are destined for the bullpen, especially Walby given his violent and occasionally out-of-control delivery. The 6-foot-3 and 200 lb. Smith will sit in the low-90s with a very good changeup, but a stiff delivery and lack of a breaking ball make him a long-term reliever.

(Getty)

(Getty)

Say Hi To Your Father For Me
As you already know, the Yankees selected Texas HS LHP Josh Pettitte (37) yesterday. He was actually with his father Andy and the team in Seattle yesterday, telling reporters he fully intends to follow through on his commitment to Baylor even though it was an honor to be drafted by the Yankees. That’s no surprise, Josh stands to benefit from college (like his father once upon a time) and his selection was more of a thank you to his family than anything.

A few rounds earlier, the club selected Canada HS RHP Cal Quantrill (26), son of the former Yankee and long-time big leaguer Paul Quantrill. Cal is a legitimate top three rounds talent with a low-90s fastball and a knockout changeup in his four-pitch mix. He’s highly regarded for his pitching acumen and aggressiveness as well, but like Pettitte he will be heading to college in a few months. Quantrill is committed to Stanford — the Cardinal almost never lose a significant commit — and teams knew he was borderline unsignable heading into the draft, hence his availability on Day Three.

Power In The Corners
High school first basemen and left fielders are hardly a hot commodity on draft day, but the Yankees took bat over glove with Texas HS OF Kendall Coleman (11) and Missouri HS 1B Drew Bridges (20). Both guys are left-handed hitters with bat speed and above-average power, but their defensive issues are major turnoffs. Bridges will get a shot to stick at the hot corner if he signs, but that’s pretty much doomed to fail. New York picked the bats here, not the gloves. Both guys can hit and not much else.

(Miami Herald)

Cortes. (Miami Herald)

The Unsignables
In addition to Quantrill and Pettitte, the Yankees also selected Kansas HS LHP Jordan Floyd (25), Texas HS OF Cody Thomas (30), and Florida HS LHP Nestor Cortes (36). Thomas is a big time football prospect and will wind up at Oklahoma, where he will play both sports. Cortes is an undersized three-pitch lefty with low-90s heat and strong offspeed pitches, but he’ll be with Florida International next spring. Floyd is very raw after splitting time between baseball and football in high school. He’s committed to Kansas State.

These three aren’t high-end prep prospects like Quantrill, but they all have strong college commitments and are unlikely to turn pro given the team’s draft pool situation and their draft slots. They were backup plans, basically. If there happens to be some extra draft pool money lying around and one of three changes their mind about going to school, hey it might work out. Otherwise Floyd, Thomas, and Cortes are prospects for show.

Organizational Depth
Every year, every team stocks up on good college players who don’t profile well in pro ball to fill out minor league rosters around the actual prospects. Adelphi RHP Dillon McNamara (27), Fresno State C Trent Garrison (28), Hawaii Pacific 3B Chaunsey Sumner (32), Washington State SS Ty Afenir (39), and Appalachian State RHP Sam Agnew-Wieland (24) and 2B Hector Crespo (34) all fit the minor league roster depth bill. Garrison is the twin brother of RHP Taylor Garrison, who has become one of the New York’s better bullpen prospects since being drafted last year.

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As usual, the Yankees snuck in a few interesting players around the Day Three clutter on Saturday afternoon. Coshow and the other big pitchers really stand out from the pack of players who might actually sign (figuratively and literally!), ditto Coleman and Bridges. Obviously Pettitte and Quantrill are the headliners for their names as much as their unsignability. Regardless of what happened on Day Two and Day Three, those three first rounders are the focal point of this draft for the Yankees. That was going to be true no matter what thanks to the new system.

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  • Brian in MA

    College ball is all well and good but if you really had a realistic shot at a pro career wouldn’t you want to get pro level instruction and develop hour skills? Doesn’t Stanford have a reputation of ruining prospects?

    • Travis L.

      The decision to choose college over pro comes down to two things, 1) Money. If a good prospect gets picked low, they will head to college in an attempt to gain a more favorable draft slot, which in turn nets them more of a cash bonus.
      2) Education. Some parents (and players) know that you cant play baseball forever and they also know that just because you are a prospect doesn’t mean that you will succeed. Therefore, you go to college, get a degree or at least close to one, and if MLB doesn’t pan out, you have a fallback option.

      It makes sense to me.

      • David Brown

        Everything depends on the Economics, the Player and the College. If I could get a Baylor or Stanford degree (particularly if the parents are wealthy like Pettitte or Quintrill), you take it and run. But if it is a School like the University of San Diego or Kansas State (Where Clarkin and Floyd are committed to), that is a different animal.

        • Laz

          Yup, and the way I see it, you can always go back and get your degree if your smart. If you are getting $100,000+ to sign, then you can save that money and use it to send yourself back to college if it doesn’t work out.

          • Preston

            A lot of the guys get provisions in the contract saying that the team will pay for their education if they go to college. Pretty sure the Yanks ended up paying for CJ Henry to play basketball at school.

      • Brian in MA

        I definitely see and understand these arguments for going to school. But even top prospects who go to school rarely stay and finish their senior season. Most don’t go the Appel route and stay. I think that baseball as a whole has a decent system where you can either go to school and be in school for a while or go straight to the minor leagues, something football and basketball desperately need. But if my goal was to be a pro ball player, I’d want to learn how to do that the best under pro instruction. Kids who want to be pro football players want to go to Alabama because they are a good program for football and Saban churns out NFL talent like no other, not because their parents want them to get an amazing education (no knock on Alabama, but its not necessarily known as a world class school). Maybe because of how the drafts and systems for MLB work differently than NBA or NFL, it contribute to this where you can use a commitment to Stanford as a bargaining tool.

        • TomH

          You don’t need to go to a “world class” university to get a first-rate education. Indeed, if you work in universities, you will often have made world-class dummies with Ivy League degrees.

          At the liberal arts college and university levels American higher education is very good, the envy of the world; and what you obtain there–and I mean when you get an education rather than seek out mere work credentials–will be there as a foundation for you until you die.

          Baseball doesn’t last that long.

          Sure, you can say you’ll go back when the career is over. Some people do. Most, I think, do not. There’s a reason for doing that sort of thing in one’s youth: the brain is a little faster in processing some things; you’ve been in training (so to speak) from elementary through high school; you’re among your age group more or less.

          At thirty-five you may find it harder to take orders from other adults (write this, read that, F! D! B!, etc). It’s not at all unusual to encounter this problem among people of that age and older. One is likely by then to have a family and all its demands.

          Also, re this notion that a successful baseball career’s earnings will make it easier to go back when the career is finished: highly unlikely. They got the money honey! Why go back? I.e., radix malorum est cupiditas! One of the “evils” that cupidity may cause is hedonism and its squelching of curiosity and the desire for knowledge curiosity underwrites.

          Exceptions exist to most things, e.g., a 40 year old will probably understand Henry James better than the average 20 something, etc. But by and large it’s safer all around to get that degree earlier rather than later. Lord, we’ve seen just on this board how often glowing prospects fade and die out over time.

          • hogsmog

            I think that your 20s is also an optimal time to get educated simply because you are physically capable of it. The long hours, all-nighters, and weekend work (and the caffeine required to do those) many need to complete a ‘good education’ are physically taxing. I just got a BS, and I don’t know if I would have been able to do it if I were 40 even if my brain was just as sharp.

            Plus, you don’t have a family/children, so if you need to spend finals week working until 3am, and then sleep/party for a whole day after it’s all over, you aren’t really hurting or neglecting anyone.

          • Brian in MA

            I think your point about people “going back” is kind of what I was getting at. Most kids don’t stay all four years. 99% of the ball players who stay four years do so because they didn’t get drafted into the pros. I think most kids use college commits as a bargaining tool and their parents like the idea of them going to college. Especially since baseball is even less of a sure thing than some other sports. They aren’t doing it for the education though. And if some of them could get out of school after a year or two and go pro, they’d do it. Just most aren’t eligible after their sophomore season.

            I’m not discounting education, i think college education is great. And i also think that just because you got a shiny Ivy League degree doesn’t mean you’re a genius. I’m just saying, if you want to be a pro baseball player, wouldn’t you want to start that career as soon as possible? For most people, going to college is the way to start yourself down the path towards a career in something (business, science, arts, music, teaching, medicine, law, etc). But for top-flight athletic prospects, depending on your sport of choice, college is not that route. Its a detour you have to take, or in the case of baseball, a bargaining chip to try and get more money. I don’t think the system is broken either. I think it actually works quite well. You have both a flourishing (though relatively niche compared to other college sports) college baseball circuit, AND very good professional development leagues. Hockey, similarly, also has this dual college and pro development system.

          • OhioYanks

            Baseball careers are generally not ending at 40. If your career ends at 40 you’ve probably made plenty of money (even in the minors or Japan) and have the experience to get a nice coaching job or some other baseball related job. I have no idea how many kids actually take teams up on paying for their college after they burn out, but most kids are burning out in their early to mid-20s. Very few are making it to 40.

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      Stanford only ruins hitting prospects. They’re fine for pitchers.

    • OhioYanks

      Stanford’s reputation is for hitters. Routinely turn out top pitching prospects. And, honestly, they routinely turn out top position prospects too.

      Considering only baseball, ignoring education and non-baseball futures, you have to consider the bonus. The signing bonus is most of the baseball income that most early picks will get. There is the carrot of a multimillion dollar MLB future, but very few guys actually get there. Players don’t get paid squat in the minors until they’re established enough to hit free agency. Spending three years in college can take a kid from a $200k bonus to a significantly higher bonus.

  • crawdaddy

    The Yankees might surprise us as I remember last year that Brady Lail had a strong college commit too, but signed with the Yankees for 125K.

  • Travis L.

    When was the last time (for sure) that the Yankees convinced someone with a stong commitment to go pro?

    • David Brown

      Nic Turley & Gabe Encinas are two guys that had strong College commitments to sign. I was reading comments by Floyd today, and I do not think he will sign (but he said he will listen). “Floyd said he’ll talk to the Yankees but is ready to report to the Wildcats.
      “I’ll listen to them and I’ll see what they have to say, but if it doesn’t feel right, I love K-State,” he said. “They’re having a great year and hopefully they can keep it going.”

    • pat

      Tyler Austin was supposedly a lock to go to UF.

    • Havok9120

      “For sure” in what amounts to private negotiations is too high a standard of evidence for a bunch of outsiders to meet.

  • Bryan

    It might not all be about baseball though. A lot of the guys know the chance of becoming a star is slim. Why risk that when you can go to college, enjoy your 18-21 years, and maybe graduate with your degree in something as a potential backup plan.

    • The Evil Umpire

      But for most, the chance to pocket $100k+ and a shot at beginning your pro-ball development now vs. the risk of blowing out an elbow or otherwise flaming out during a college career and thus receiving $0 is well worth it.

  • crawdaddy

    Do baseball players get a full ride at college like football players? Don’t know, but I do know that MLB teams setup college funds for a signed high school player that doesn’t count towards their bonus.

    • Bryan

      That’s true. I assume they get full rides from the big time programs. But I could be wrong. Also, under the new format, just think of a decent HS or junior in college prospect. That HS prospect might get a 200k signing bonus (if that). But if he goes to college and pans out, that 200k becomes 2 mil or 4 mil. It obviously doesn’t work all the time. But that is a huge increase.

      • Laz

        But isn’t the $200k better than a 10% chance at $2M?

    • David Brown

      Most players do not get full rides (I know Rice does not (They offered Brett Marshall that, which is unheard of there)).

    • Will (the other one)

      Some do, but most don’t. Baseball is classified as an “equivalency” sport, in which the number of full scholarships you have to distribute is far fewer than the number of total players on the team (in 2012, it was just fewer than 12 full scholarships to award per roster, I think). This means that most players are awarded a partial scholarship (often a quarter- or half-ride) as opposed to a full boat.

  • zs190

    I would be happy if they get the top 5 picks signed since it’ll cost something around 6.5 mil just to sign those guys. Judging from Opp’s comments and the way they drafted in the next 2 days, I think the Yankees feel good about signing those guys and there weren’t a ton of upside guys drafted for backup plans the last two days which is fine.

    If something doesn’t work out, Quantrill is a pretty solid guy as a backup plan. Coshow looks like somebody who has three solid pitches and could be pretty good if he can improve his conditioning. Mostly unspectacular 2nd and 3rd day which is unusual for the Yankees but given the first round, I like how the team did this draft.

    • David Brown

      They will sign more than those 5 and filler. I would be shocked if Wade & Coleman are not signed (early drafted HS Prep players)

    • OhioYanks

      Under the new system there is a lot of incentive to take signable guys in rounds 1-10. You lose your bonus pool money if you don’t sign someone and I don’t think you get a comp pick the next year after a maybe the 4th round or something.

      The Yankees got some pretty interesting guys on days 2 and 3, though.

  • Wayne

    Are cale coshow , alex Polanco and Ryan Butler signable and mike did not mention much about alex Polanco what is the scouting report on him?

  • Andy in Sunny Daytona

    First time ever that someone is bound and determined to go to Florida International.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      My alma mater.

      Pretty much the third best state school in FL but, yes, times have indeed changed.

  • crawdaddy

    Listen I expect a good portion of those high school draftees after the 10th round to go to college. However, don’t be surprise if the Yankees get one or two of those late high school draftees. For the most part, we don’t know what’s in the hearts of these young men. Anyhow, we’ll find out one way or another between now and July 12th.

  • pinch hitter

    As the uncle of a HS player who will be borderline draftable next year, there is A) no chance he gets a full ride and B) 100 percent chance his mother, my sister, will murder him if he chooses pro ball over college.

  • FrankeeYankee

    They drafted Coshow to help Joba feel better about his body image.

    • The Evil Umpire

      I feel we should nickname him “Hoss” if he signs. Guy just looks like a “Hoss” to me.

  • FLYER7

    NCAA permits 13 scholarships for basketball and 80? for football and max for college baseball is 11.6 but most schools don’t even give the max but anywhere from 8 or 9 to the max…on a 24-28 player college roster you will find very few full rides where the 12th player on a D-1 basketball team is a full ride.

  • Bob Buttons

    Day Three of the Yankees draft is proudly sponsored by (insert product here). Remember, the bigger the better, size does matter.

  • Jonathan

    Coshow looks like Jonathan Broxton in that pic. Big white righty with sideburns.

  • Dan

    Yanks have a verbal agreement with Bridges, predraft deal.

  • Dan

    Same situation with Wade, have deal in place around/at slot value as well.

  • OhioYanks

    I wouldn’t say that size is the 6th tool for the Yankees. A lot of their draft success has come on undersized RHPs. From Ian Kennedy to DRob to Montgomery, Goody, Corey Black, Taylor Garrison, Brett Marshall, DJ Mitchell, Adam Warren, Stoneburner, etc.