Game 72: The Start of Something



The Yankees have lost 14 of their last 23 games, and while that isn’t the end of the world in mid-June, they do need to start stringing some runs together before the All-Star break. Win seven of ten, ten of 14, something like that. They’re in third place in the AL East and this weekend the Rays will look to make up some ground in the division. The fewer teams New York will have to jump in the second half to get into the postseason, the better. Here’s the lineup that will face left-hander Matt Moore:

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. 3B Jayson Nix
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. LF Vernon Wells
  6. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  7. 1B Lyle Overbay
  8. C Chris Stewart
  9. SS Reid Brignac

And on the mound is the 2003 Warren Spahn Award winner, left-hander Andy Pettitte. The award is given annually to the pitcher deemed the best southpaw in baseball.

Beautiful weather in New York today and that is expected to be true for the rest of the weekend as well. Tonight’s first pitch is scheduled for a little after 7pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

Injury Updates: Both Kevin Youkilis (back) and Curtis Granderson (hand) had surgery today as expected. Youkilis had a herniated disc repaired and Granderson had a pin removed from his hand. I guess that’s not really a surgery. Sorry for the scare.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. The Bastard says:

    What the funk? Hafner gets the start against a tough lefty but misses both sides of a double header against softer lefties?

  2. Wheels says:

    It shouldn’t come as a shock that the Rays have scored 65 more runs than the Yanks this season.

  3. Johnny crackers says:

    Why bring up Almonte who is hot to bench him

  4. Jason says:

    Cone and O’Neil in the booth. My favorite crew. If nothing else, that excites me. Facing Moore, not so much.

    • Dale Mohorcic says:

      Love Coney in the booth. He has a lot of Rizzuto potential.

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        O’Neill is more the Rizzuto type. Plenty of nonsense and goofiness.

        • Darren says:

          I grew up with Phil Rizzuto.

          I listened to Phil Rizzuto in the booth with Messer and White.
          I considered Phil Rizzuto to be a friend of mine.

          O’Neill, sir, is no Phil Rizzuto.

          You huckleberry! Go get me a canoli.

  5. your mom says:

    6 lefties against Moore? Okay.

    • The Real Greg says:

      That’s how bad their right handed hitting is.

    • Tom says:

      While Mika A mentioned Moore has more neutral splits this year but his 2nd best pitch is still his change (which is more effective to righties)

      For his career,
      Rightes FIP 4.50
      Lefties FIP 5.04

      Still too small a sample, but it’s not like he dominates lefties and given his change I tend to believe that data a bit more.

      Also with a lefty groundballer on the mound, getting Brignac’s glove at SS is not a bad idea.

      4 lefties (Gardner, Cano, Ichiro, Overbaty) will play pretty much every day so it’s really just 2 platoons (DH and the 3rd/SS threeway). Maybe he will add LF and Wells as a 3rd platoon at some point?

  6. WhittakerWalt says:

    The best part about the Dodgers being gone is we don’t have to hear Michael Kay say “Donald Arthur Mattingly” anymore.

  7. Pseudoyanks says:

    Holy Shit, AP is the only pitcher drafted by the yanks to win 200 games…wow.

  8. WhittakerWalt says:

    Baseball player

  9. dkidd says:

    was i hallucinating or did paul o’neill call nix a “special player”?

  10. Jason says:

    Nix has got to put that hanger in play. That thing was begging to be in the seats. Instead he strikes out on the next pitch. Ugh

  11. ExitCashman says:

    What is the point of hitting Gardner leadoff? He is way too tentative to get things going on the bases.

    • The Real Greg says:

      That’s one of the things I hate about Brett. He doesn’t have the Rickey Henderson swagger on the basepaths.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      He has the second highest OBP on the team and is four points away from the highest. Who exactly do you want to leadoff?

      • The Real Greg says:

        Valid points.

      • ExitCashman says:

        Ichiro, with Gardner behind him.

        • The Real Greg says:

          Ichiro is too hot and cold at this point of his career to be a leadoff hitter.

        • Mike Axisa says:

          Ichiro: .311 OBP, 9 SB
          Gardner: .347 OBP, 11 SB


          • ExitCashman says:

            Ichiro is a better natural baserunner and doesn’t take many pitches, and it gets Nix out of the top of the order, which makes no sense.

            • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

              He’s a great baserunner when he’s actually on base. And not taking lots of pitches, 1) isn’t a good thing, and 2) would still be fine if he got on base at an acceptable clip.

              I understand that he’s hot right now…but long term Gardner is the best leadoff guy we have.

            • LK says:

              If you want Ichiro as an alternative to Nix, sure (though hitting a guy with a 78 wRC+ isn’t some slam dunk move), but there’s no reason to move Gardner out of leadoff. Being a tentative baserunner on this team isn’t an issue when the alternative is no baserunners at all.

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        I want Gardner leading off absolutely, but he has to make something happen on the bases. We can barely score any runs as it is, if he leads off the game with a basehit I’d like him to manufacture something.

        • LK says:

          I mean, the next 3 guys went K, groundout, flyout. I get what you’re saying in general, but nothing to be manufactured there.

          • WhittakerWalt says:

            At the risk of getting FALLACIED to death, if Gardner steals second then Nix would almost certainly shorten his swing and try to drive the ball the other way, and maybe Cano gets a sac fly or something.
            Of course it’s all hypothetical, but the way they approached it everybody was just swinging away and making outs, and Gardner never moved.

        • JobaWockeeZ says:

          It’s instinctual. If Gardner isn’t manning up by now it won’t happen.

  12. Wheels says:

    More of the same.

  13. Jason says:

    Personally, I think Gardner deserves a lot of credit for how he’s bounced back after essentially a lost year. Guy has easily been our best hitter lately, combined with great defense, and he’s even started stealing a lot more as of late. Not running against Moore I think is more of a situation where the pitcher gets the ball to the plate quickly. Still, with Molina not catching I think we’d all like to see him try at some point.

  14. The Real Greg says:

    And another passed ball for Stewart.

    Never mind, it was ruled a wild pitch.

  15. Dalek Jeter says:

    I wish Joe G was my boss. I could apparently be awful at anything my job requires (Stewart, Wells) and get a longer leash than a fry cook with special needs would.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

      I wish Joe G was my boss everybody more competent than me was too sick or injured to work.

      Fixed that for you.

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        Almonte and Neal are both on the team and both have the ability to play RF or LF.

        And Greg, if you say ‘well Almonte has bad numbers against LHP’ one more time I will fly to wherever you are and brand “Vernon Wells has been bad at baseball since 2008″ on your forehead.

        • The Real Greg says:

          He’s been bad since 2010. He actually had a good 2010 season.

        • WhittakerWalt says:

          If you’re using Greg Logic there’s no point in even following the team, since they’re not winning the World Series anyway.

        • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

          Maybe they’d be better, but on the other hand, it’s sort of like replacing horse shit with dog shit. It might be smaller and less smelly, but it’s still shit.

          Almonte might end up being decent, with luck, though.

        • LK says:

          Look I hate playing Vernon Wells, but I think we can all admit that when Neal and Almonte are the answer, the problem is that there are no answers.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      Be fair, Stewart is good at throwing out baserunners. It’s the only thing he’s good at.

  16. Anderson Silva says:

    I understand that it’s hard to find offense from the catcher spot, but why is it so hard to have a good defensive catcher?

  17. Cy Pettitte says:

    Chris Stewart, defensive catcher costs us another run

    • The Real Greg says:

      Except that it was ruled a wild pitch and David Cone agreed with the ruling.

      And if you disagree with David Cone, you are not a Yankee fan.

  18. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    The sad thing? That’s probably game.

  19. The Real Greg says:

    And here come the Girardi haters again. My goodness, Terry Collins gets treated better than him.

  20. forensic says:

    Sterling just said Myers starts his career with visits to two iconic parks.

    I’ll give him Fenway, but YSIII is now iconic after 4 1/2 years???

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      To hear most players talk about it, YSIII is indistinguishable from the previous stadium. Meaning when you step on the field you feel like you’re in YANKEE STADIUM, and that’s what every player dreams of. Ballplayers are rather simple creatures.

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

        I can buy that. It’s still the home of the New York Yankees, the single most successful franchise in professional sports history. And it still has the iconic frieze, and frankly looks pretty damn cool when you walk in.

      • LK says:

        I bet half the players don’t even realize it’s not the same place.

    • Wheels says:

      Says the guy who proclaims that Indian Point produces clean, reliable energy for a stronger NY economy.

  21. Anderson Silva says:

    so Wells got demoted to 5th? Girardi needs to go

  22. WhittakerWalt says:

    I wonder how weak this Wells AB will be?

  23. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Wells must be under .100 for the year, or damned close to it.

  24. Roadgeek Adam says:

    And a crappy Strike 1 by my most hated and forever umpire burns Overbay later.

    Even YES thought it was a ball.

  25. The Real Greg says:

    It’s amazing to me that the only people who really want Girardi fired are the people on here. The media hasn’t touched him that often, and there really hasn’t been an outcry against him.

    • ExitCashman says:

      Why blame Joe? He doesn’t have much to work with in terms of position players and he’s still over .500.

      • The Real Greg says:

        Exactly! But if you stay around here, people like Anderson Silva and Teddy, trolls to be sure, and Dalek Jeter call for his head.

        • WhittakerWalt says:

          There’s a difference between questioning individual game decisions (as Dalek does) and calling for Joe to be summarily fired (as Anderson does).

          • The Real Greg says:

            Except that he seems to do it all the time.

            • WhittakerWalt says:

              So? Joe makes a lot of weird decisions. It’s a game thread. Part of participating in a game thread is criticizing the manager’s decisions.

              It’s nowhere near as annoying as your incessant White Knighting for Girardi.

              And how is it that someone as pessimistic as you gets to decide when other people are being too negative? You’re constantly predicting doom and gloom, yet somehow it’s wrong to criticize Girardi’s boneheaded lineup decisions?

            • Jim Is Bored says:

              How can you not tell the difference between questioning a decision(even many decisions) and wanting someone fired?

              Is that really that difficult for you?

        • Jon Niese says:

          On the bright side, that does sound like a nice bunch to share a big ol’ back o’ dicks with.

    • LK says:

      How in the hell could you have a better record than this with this lineup?

    • Rolling Doughnut says:

      Maybe because it’s not his fault.

  26. The Real Greg says:

    LOL Gardner

  27. stuart a says:

    wells is tired excuse by O’neil is a joke.

    he is hitting 100 because he sucks plain and simple.

    don’t worry Brignac is up next inning, he of the long and loopy swing. he is good for a pool shot back to the picher best case scenario..

    the offense is working Moore big time tonight. Gardner takes to long to steal, it is a big problem. he gets a lot of meaningless stolen bases kinda like meaningless hits for Cano in games your up by 6 runs…

    it is more then just the numbers…..when the hits come etc…

  28. Wheels says:

    We can’t afford mistakes like that, Brett.

  29. stuart a says:

    girardi is playing with a bunch of AA hitters so wells sucking, brignac sucking, etc is not his fault.

    wells batting 4th yesterday is his fault.

    btw dopes they are not firing GIrardi so why waste your breath..

  30. WhittakerWalt says:

    Great, another guy in scoring position.

  31. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Well, we’re going to lose.

  32. Cy Pettitte says:

    well this game is over.

  33. stuart a says:

    Pettitte dominating. he is 41, assuming his performance will not suffer as he gets older has gotten the Yanks in this mess…

  34. WhittakerWalt says:

    Pettitte might be nearing the end. He gives up a crapload of hits.

  35. Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

    The Rays’ BABIP in this game is .833 (5 out of 6).

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      These are extremely hittable pitches, though. It’s not like these are little parachutes or 10-hoppers.

      • Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

        That’s true, but “hittable pitches” only increases the likelihood of a hit by a little bit (unless it’s a homer) and you’d still expect most of them to find a fielder. If Pettitte pitched those same pitches over again, you’d probably expect 2 or 3 hits instead of 5.

  36. ExitCashman says:

    Uh-oh. We’re down by 3 touchdowns now.

  37. LK says:

    Hey no reason to waste a good Pettitte start when we all knew they weren’t scoring on Moore.

  38. Eddard says:

    Now they just need to score 3 runs off Matt Moore. Might as well go watch the Spurs put the final cap on their dynasty. Timmy Duncan will take his final bow tonight and retire on top.

  39. Anthony_14 says:

    I used to have season tix in the early 1990s, when this team was dreadful. And I have to say, this club right now reminds of those days. I almost forgot the feeling. The long first innings. The fans hoping that hyped up dead wood (e.g. Hensley “Bam Bam” Muelens) prospects. This feels awfully familiar. Sorry to bring down the vibe.

  40. King George says:

    Who’s fault is it that the Yankees are in the state they’re in? Honestly looking for opinions…

    • The Real Greg says:

      Cashman and Levine. Failures in drafting and depending on aging pitchers and players does not work in this new baseball arena.

    • BigBlueAL says:

      95% on Hal, 5% on Cashman??

      • ExitCashman says:

        Sure, blame the guy who writes the checks.

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        Why is it’s Hal’s fault? The Yankees can’t rely on their 1990 farm successes forever but it seems like that’s the plan, aside from buying the best available free agent every couple of years.

        Things were going to go down eventually.

    • Cuso says:

      The guys on the field that are given the chance to wear the uniform?

    • Tom says:

      Combination of luck (injuries), poor planning (Cashman + senior managament) and senior managment meddling (Ichiro, 189mil plan)

      I think the injuries are being given too much weight though. The Yankees came into the season with 2 potential black holes (RF, C) and had what I think should have been considered a high risk position at SS. The RF problem is on the senior management (Ichiro), the catcher is on Cashman. They also had no legitimate plan for a 4th OF which made the impact of any OF injury or underperformance that much worse (that’s a Cashman issue)

      That left pretty much zero margin for error in terms of injuries and I think is largely responsible for the Wells panic move. I think if the Yankees had production at either RF or C, the desperation to get Wells may not have been there and they may have waited the initial Granderson injury out

      SO maybe 50/50 Cashamn and the guys above him (60/40?)

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

        There’s “zero margin for error in terms of injuries”, and then there’s “Lose your starting shortstop, centerfielder, third baseman, and first basemen, a combined roughly 80-90, HRs, to injuries.”

        Then there’s Pettitte, who has been on the DL, what, twice now? And Nunez, who wasn’t even that good but was lost to the DL too. And we aren’t getting Pineda back until post all-star break.

        Our injuries this year have been insane.

    • Steve says:

      Oppenheimer and Cashman. Injuries happen. Not having anybody worth a damn in the minors shouldn’t. As Mike said, who was the last position prospect that was drafted that has been worth a damn for the Yankees?

  41. Tom says:

    I’m going to optimistically say that 3 runs don’t win this ball game (which means can the Yankees shut down the Rays the rest of the way?)

  42. Clay Davis says:

    This team is so god damn dull.

  43. Wheels says:

    Brignac is god-awful.

  44. Cy Pettitte says:

    Brignac just lol. this team is the pits.

  45. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    I’m not sure if that was a rally-killer, because I’m not sure if that was a rally.

  46. Anderson Silva says:

    check swing double play. Any fan on the stands tonight could hit better than Brignac. Fuck Cashman for building this shitty ass team.

  47. Eddard says:

    There’s only 2 guys who would make other team’s every day lineup, Gardner and Cano. 3 if you count Hafner who has struggled since a hot stat. Everyone else would be a bench player and has been forced into everyday duties.

  48. Roadgeek Adam says:


    I know he’s only hitting .251 at AAA, but would Addison Maruszak be that much worse than Brignac?

  49. Roadgeek Adam says:

    By the way the 32-39 Railriders are losing 1-0 to the Red Wings and have 1 more hit than the MLB club.

  50. stuart a says:

    you have to laugh else you would cry. next time someone says something bad about nunnie just mention the word BRIGNAC.

    he is 1 of the worst Yankee hitters I have ever seen, and that is a long long time.

    Yanks chances of scoring 4 runs has to be about 10% chance.

    the offense is dreadful…. 2nd worse in the AL… think about that. they have 6 lefties in the lineup including brignac, under 200 overbay against lefties, and Pronk ditto.

    if Brignac is on the roster in 3 weeks I would be shocked….

    the announcers you think they could say”the Yankee offense makes any pitcher look good”, nah Moore is getting his stuff back that is what it is not the yankee offense is putrid….

  51. Kramerica Industries says:

    Always love seeing 3-0 deficits when I can finally settle in.

    With this offense, that’s probably insurmountable.

  52. stuart a says:

    the new theme with Cano from the apologists is he is not seeing any good pitches because well no 1 else can hit. Newsflash Robbie, take the walk it is better then the roll over the the second baseman.

    • ExitCashman says:

      As Michael Kay likes to point out, this could all work in the Yankees’ favor by lowering Cano’s asking price. Same with Granderson and Jeter (who would exercise his $8 million option). The gang can stay together next year!

  53. BigBlueAL says:

    Nix reached the warning track!!

  54. WhittakerWalt says:

    Warning track power.

  55. Anderson Silva says:

    yup, that’s the Yankees, not good enough

  56. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Damn Robbie. That was putrid.

  57. Cy Pettitte says:

    Cano so engaged in this game. great AB and doesn’t know there’s only 2 outs

  58. Cuso says:

    Way to keep your head in the game, Robbie

  59. Anderson Silva says:

    Cano has just given up. Great superstar they have.

  60. BigBlueAL says:

    Would be pretty funny if Cano leaves and cites a better chance of winning as one of his reasons for leaving.

  61. Now Batting says:

    Not what you want to see out of a potential $200 million man.

  62. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Hey Cano was imitating Nick Swisher

  63. WhittakerWalt says:

    The worst part about every garbage Cano at-bat is that it proves stuart right. That’s the last thing we need.

  64. Wheels says:

    This is unwatchable.

  65. forensic says:

    Sterling: “Swung on and looped to the middle guy in the place.”

    Very helpful…

  66. Cy Pettitte says:

    Matt Moore had a >13 ERA in his last 4 starts, tonight 4IP 1H 1BB on 47 pitches. He’s gonna throw a CGSO for sure lol.

  67. your mom says:

    We’re gonna get shutout again aren’t we?

  68. WhittakerWalt says:

    That’s one of the worst PBPs Sterling has ever done, and that’s saying something. I have no idea what just happened.

    • Cy Pettitte says:

      Hafner blooped it off the handle of the bat to the guy shifted in to short right field

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        See, I didn’t get that at all. The way he described it I thought it had fallen in for a hit, but then he went “three up and three down go the Yanks.”

  69. ExitCashman says:

    Another Mets game is breaking out here in the Bronx!

    • Roadgeek Adam says:

      As David Wright has 2 Home Runs off Mike Minor.

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        That explains why stuart is so chipper today.

        • Roadgeek Adam says:

          Mets are still losing 3-2. Just pulled a classic Yankees. (Bases loaded no out, 3 outs no extra runs.)

          • The Real Greg says:

            The thing is that the presence of Wheeler and Harvey at least make them exciting.

            • Roadgeek Adam says:

              What are you smoking? There isn’t much to excite behind it.

              Hell Jon Niese just left the game with injury.

              • The Real Greg says:

                Even though the Mets suck, they seem to have a sense of hope around them right now. Now it might go away, but right now there’s more hope with the Mets than the Yankees.

                • Roadgeek Adam says:

                  I seriously think you’re smoking something. There isn’t a lot of this hope.

                  Bullpen isn’t improving.

                  The team is using its TENTH leadoff hitter of the year.

                  Marlon Byrd is tied for 2nd in most HRs among the team behind John Buck.

                  Shawn Marcum is getting the king of bad luck, probably behind Joe Blanton, who really sucks in the AL.

  70. forensic says:

    Two people in my keeper league just made a trade:

    Josh Hamilton, Anthony Rendon, and Felix Hernandez for Giancarlo Stanton.

    For some reason, this seems way one-sided to me. Is it just me?

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      Meh, Hamilton has been all sorts of awful. Rendon is a rookie with like no experience. It’s basically Hernandez for Stanton. I wouldn’t make that trade if I was losing Stanton. Good pitching is easy to replace in Fantasy.

      • forensic says:

        I get that on Hamilton (though there is at least a slight possibility that he starts hitting again), but I would think Rendon (especially with how he’s hitting now) should have a lot of value in a keeper league, Felix is Felix (and his numbers outside of wins would seem to be difficult to replace), and Stanton pretty iffy earlier in the year (though he’s been great since returning from the injury).

        I don’t know, I haven’t done fantasy in awhile (and never a keeper league before) so I’m probably wrong. Just seemed a little off. Oh well…

  71. stuart a says:

    Cano is a dope bottom line. Yesterday he dogged it on the play he got thrown out at 2nd. tonight did not know how many outs there was.

    he is not a smart player and BTW he is not a great player. He is the best or 2nd best 2b in baseball. that is a position with very little power and a lot of bad players. it is not like saying he is the best outfielder in the game…

    i am right on Cano.. He is worth 5 years and $13 mill max and that is because salaries are insane, he will not take that contract and I let him walk, Get the picks.. this team is in trouble…granderson injury hurts….

  72. forensic says:

    Even Sterling and Suzyn (with Feinsand) are saying this 3-0 feels like 10-0 (and Feinsand said ‘It’s over’).

    At least they’re starting to get the point.

  73. Joey C says:

    Not that he doesn’t make some valid points…but it gets a little tired hearing Kay be such an apologist/company man all the time.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      What’s he saying?

      • Joey C says:

        That fans “can’t” be upset by the fact that the team is so poor offensively because of all the injuries. As I said, definitely some truth to that. What he doesn’t mention is the fact that they did nothing to add any depth to an old, injury prone roster. But when he starts talking about how Cano slumping is a good thing because it will drive the price down…get out of here. None of us want to hear how the best player on the team struggling is a good thing since it’ll save the team some money.

  74. Dalek Jeter says:

    I’d like to defend myself against Greg’s comment that I call out Joe to frequently. I only call out Joe when he makes head scratching moves. Which as a fan I feel is my right. (Sorry I’m not replying up in the nest, but it’s like 20 minutes old and my job’s internet is like 12 kinds of terrible).

    My biggest beefs with Joe that I call him out on a regular basis for:
    - 2 months ago when Stewart was playing like a single A catcher in the big leagues, and Romine had just been called up. Romine was treated like he had killed Joe’s dog and started like twice in his first 3 weeks in the bigs (fair enough that it turns out Romine was just as bad as Stewart, but nobody could know that at the time)

    - Poor line up management. I don’t blame Joe that he has to fill a line up card with Nix/Brignac, Romine/Stewart, Adams, and to a lesser extent Overbay. I do have a problem with though, when Ichiro looked cooked at the beginning of the season, and Francisco looked cooked, and now Wells looks worse than either of them did…meanwhile at least two of Boesch, Pronk, Neal, and Almonte were sitting on the bench in favor of the guy who looked done getting regular AB’s do to match up.
    (For evidence to how bad Ichiro was to open the season, he’s hitting roughly .300 for the past month, and he’s still not hitting .280 on the season) Wells is 9 for his last 86. Ichiro has hit .300 for a month. Nix has also been hitting well for a month. So has Gardner. The line up should be: Gardner, Nix, Ichiro, Cano, Pronk, Overbay, Neal, Brignac/Adams, Romine/Stewart for the time being.

    Otherwise I think Joe’s done a fine job. The Bullpen has been outstanding with guys like Claiborne and Kelley.

  75. The Real Greg says:

    David Cone is so frickin’ smart. He gets it. Everybody’s been waiting for this. And as Yankee fans, we will have to deal with jeering and being laughed at.

    Also I have the need to take Brian Cashman, push his head against the screen showing this game and say “DRAFT BETTER”

    • TomH says:

      What is so “frickin’ smart” about Cone understanding that “Everybody’s been waiting for this”? It’s self-evident and has been true at numerous times in Yankee history (e.g., 1929, 1944, 1965).

  76. dkidd says:

    david cones makes the phrase “take the onus” sound dirty

  77. King George says:

    Getting to the point now where I’d just rather stockpile picks and just let Robbie go. What’s the harm in adding another pick? Clearly management doesn’t seem to care, so why should we as fans?

    • stuart a says:

      yep . management does not care. that is why they have the largest payroll in baseball because they do not care..

      wow is me yankee fans are so friggin spoiled it is insane..

      • King George says:

        If management cared, Vernon Wells wouldn’t be a our 4 hitter. If management cared, we wouldn’t have added a 41-year old pitcher who is oft injured. If management cared, we wouldn’t have Reid Brignac as our SS. If management cared, we wouldn’t have Chris Stewart as our starting catcher. Should I continue?

        • Crime Dog says:

          You don’t have much of a leg to stand on, minus the catching situation. Those guys are the 3rd, 4th and maybe even 5th spots on the depth chart. How would other teams look if they went that deep into the depth charts?

        • WhittakerWalt says:

          You might want to continue until you say something that’s actually true. Vernon Wells is batting 4th because Girardi makes dumb lineup decisions and because we have essentially no options. Andy Pettitte is pitching for us because he’s a beloved icon who pitched very well last season before getting injured in a fluke play. Reid Brignac is our SS because our HOF shortstop is on the DL and his replacement is on the DL and, again, we have no options. Chris Stewart is our starting catcher because our actual starting cathcer is on the DL.
          How do any of these things prove that management “doesn’t care?”

          • King George says:

            I’ll clarify. Management didn’t do enough to put a quality product on the field. And I believe that firmly. As Colin Cowherd said, “Yankee fans aren’t dumb. They’re smart. They recognize quality and good products. This team is not a good product.” If management had out out a good product, there would be more fans at the games and ratings would be up.

            • WhittakerWalt says:

              What would you have done, with the options available? With half the lineup on the DL, with backups to the backups getting premium playing time, what would you have done?

  78. stuart a says:

    if simply cervelli, nunez, and granderson where not hurt this team could compete…

    granderson sits down wells and or ichiro, cervelli removes romine and probably starts, and nunez eliminates an automatic out…

    if these 3 where in the lineup it would be; gardner, granderson, cano, hafner, overbay, ichiro, nunez, and cervelli. not great but not incredibly horrible..

  79. Anderson Silva says:

    I just hope they use this joke of a team as an excuse to let Cashman go. Then maybe something good can come out of this shitty ass season.

  80. Eddard says:

    The team is so boring they’re talking about cartoons and kids.

  81. WhittakerWalt says:

    Ma and Pa making plenty of excuses for Cano in this interview. I agree he’s not getting a lot of hittable pitches. The problem is that he still swings at those pitches. I know it, you know it, pitchers know it. He makes outs even when he’s being pitched around. That’s indefensible.

  82. stuart a says:

    they are boring. they got shutout yesterday and may get shutout tonight also.

    they are 2nd in least runs scored in the AL to the Mariners, nothing else needs to be said.

    they are boring..

  83. Tom says:

    Over/under 10 pitches for Moore this inning?

  84. dkidd says:

    jose iglesias: can someone please explain what is going on?

  85. Roadgeek Adam says:

    Well, the RailRiders just gave the Red Wings two more runs, 3-7-0, 0-2-0 here.

    3-6-0, 0-1-1 here. I sense a pattern.

  86. BigBlueAL says:

    For those who want to let Cano go to get the draft pick, considering how bad they have been at drafting you sure you would rather have a draft pick instead of Cano??

    • Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

      I don’t think anyone is saying the main reason they want to let Cano go is to get a draft pick. I think they don’t want to offer him the extra years and money it would take to keep him.

      Also, I don’t think the Yankees have been bad at drafting. If you compare the WAR they’ve gotten out of their picks to the WAR players in similar draft slots have produced, it’s pretty close.

      • BigBlueAL says:

        I want him to stay because he is clearly the best player on the team and replacing him will be 100X harder than most people think. I mean shit look at the problems this team had finding a decent 3B in the off-season to replace Arod for half a season.

        My question is some people above mentioned just let him go because they would rather get the draft pick. Safe bet that draft pick wont become close to even half the player Cano is.

    • forensic says:

      I don’t really care about the draft pick.

      I just don’t want to see another player fade into oblivion while paying him a ton of money. Especially one with a lack of plate discipline and one that has become a platoon player the way things are going.

  87. Now Batting says:

    I’d like to see Wells open up his stance a bit.

  88. Clay Davis says:

    Vernon Wells can work with Long all he wants. Not going to make him a good baseball player.

  89. ExitCashman says:

    “Ichiro runs hard all the time” It’s a shame the announcers have to distinguish him from others on the team.

  90. stuart a says:

    for a franchise that does nothing right management right it is amazing they have made the playoffs what 15 out of 16 years or something like that.

    they draft terribly or sign undrafted guys terribly that is why; they got lucky with jeter, pettitte, mo, nunez,gardner, cervelli, cano, joba, phelps, robertson, hughes, and a ton of other home grown players.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      That’s the Stewie I know and love.

      How is Jerrmy Mejia doing anyway? I don’t give a shit if I misspelled his name.

      • Roadgeek Adam says:

        About where Johan Santana is.

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        This is how you know the Yanks are doing bad- stuart actually participates in the game threads. He puts out preemptive Cano-bashing, instead of taking a crap in the recap post like usual.

    • Alkaline says:

      I’ve actually found myself semi-agreeing with your posts lately (scary?).

      However, I would take this management all day if it means making the playoffs 15/16 years. What’s your opinion on other team’s front office that don’t make the playoffs nearly as much?

      And, yeah, the draft is a considerable crapshoot where teams are lucky a lot of times. You rarely see a player drafted and make an immediate impact within two year like many football and basketball youngins. It’s the nature of the sport. There’s a reason why so many players are even drafted.

  91. Crime Dog says:

    What’s the consensus on how much longer Wells is gonna be run out there? I say after the weekend, if he doesn’t show something, he’s riding the pine.

  92. Anderson Silva says:

    It’s not just drafting.. to me the worse thing is being terrible at developing minor leaguers. It seems like the coaches down in the minors screw players up more than they help.

    They should at least use their big wallet to hire the best coaches and instructors, cause Im pretty sure that doesnt count against the luxury tax.

  93. SDB says:

    4-0, 7-0, 11-0, all the same with this offense. These games are getting hopeless to watch.

  94. Kramerica Industries says:

    Since 2008, there have been now 37 series between the Yankees and Rays at Yankee Stadium.

    With the way this game is going tonight, this will be the 19th time in those 37 tries that the Yankees lose the series opener.

    That’s really bad. It’s hard to win a series when you’re losing the opening game so often.

  95. LarryM Fl says:

    This team is starting to be non- competitive at the plate. The pitching can only take you so far.

    Robbie Cano get your head out of your A$$ ! 5 nothing no way we can make up this run total.

  96. stuart a says:

    a lineup with josa molina at DH, sean rodriguez in the outfield, and escobar(who sucks look at his career stats) in the lineup is so much better then ous it is sick.

    on the Cano has no protection bull, how did Longoria do the first 6 years of his career with no protection? A ehll of a lot better then Cano is doing..

    • Crime Dog says:

      Cano 2013: .278/.351/.505 for a .856 OPS
      Longoria career: .279/.361/.519 for a .879 OPS

      No huge difference there. And by all accounts Cano hasn’t heated up this season yet, and I think it’s reasonable to expect that to happen.

      • stuart a says:

        cano played with a much superior lineup until this year.

        i think Longoria is about 3 years younger, and makes a bunch less the nCano thinks he should be paid.

        Longoria and Cano are good players, not close to superstars and Longoria has more upside…

        • Crime Dog says:

          Cano plays a more premium position, and I only cited his 2013 numbers, so his past years’ lineups don’t matter.

  97. your mom says:

    Brignac should change his name to Cognac. That way at least I could like something about him.

    Does he even have a hit as a Yankee?

  98. Dalek Jeter says:

    If the Yankees lose this game, they will have a negative run differential. When was the last time the team had a negative differential this late in the season?

  99. SDB says:

    “Swung on and lined… oh, it’s a base hit!”

    Even John Sterling’s amazed when Brignac actually gets a hit.

    I’m in shock.

  100. Clay Davis says:

    Sun shines on a dogs ass every once in awhile

  101. Clay Davis says:

    Wonder how they strand the runners

  102. Lukaszek says:

    Can somebody tell me why Brignac is standing on first base? Usually he goes back to the dugout. Did he have a fight with someone and is afraid to go back?

  103. forensic says:

    Two guys on base at the same time???

    Quick! Bunt! Give him a free out!!!

  104. TomH says:

    This is a tremendously bad lineup, but as bad as it is, the jury is still out on the season itself. The badness is owing to the almost comically malign attack of injuries to starters. If these current mediocrities can hang around .500 for about 23 more days, things ought to improve. My fear is that they will fall apart before then. All depends on the pitching, and if Pettitte begins to have trouble, to go with Hughes’ troubles, things could fall apart really fast.

  105. SDB says:

    Let’s see… a bunt, strikeout looking, and a pop up caught in foul territory in foul territory to strand the runners?

  106. BigBlueAL says:

    There is a RISP!!

  107. ExitCashman says:

    Tim Foli on second, Bruce Boisclair on first, none out and up steps Kelvin Chapman…

  108. BigBlueAL says:

    Nix swinging away at 2-0. Seriously??

  109. forensic says:

    Suzyn: “Someone finally told this team to take pitches.”

    Very next pitch, Nix swings at a ball that gameday had clearly high.

  110. Kramerica Industries says:

    3-2 count, two on, none out.

    Let the fuck up commence.

  111. BigBlueAL says:

    Here we go.

  112. Darren says:

    Jesus H Christ, you guys are an insane bunch of pessimists!!

    It’s freakin June aand the Yankees are right there in the middle of a pennant race. I’d MUCH rather this team stay alive with great pitching and shitty hitting than the other way around. We haven’t much success in the playoffs when we slug our way through the regular season(’09 excepted).

    Anyway, we’re gonna win this game 8-4. Ya bunch of bozos and freaks.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      “We haven’t much success in the playoffs when we slug our way through the regular season(’09 excepted).”

      Yeah, well, at least those teams made the playoffs. This one’s likelier to finish last in the AL East than end up in the postseason.

  113. Tom says:

    2 straight walks…

    Chances Cano either homers or rolls over on the first pitch?

  114. your mom says:

    Time for Cano to show just how much he’s worth.

  115. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    I wonder how they’re not going to score this time?

  116. dc1874 says:

    You cant tell me Bernie Williams could not out hit half of this team right now!!!

  117. Lukaszek says:

    If Cano manages to hit a grand slam I will walk across South Bronx in the middle of the night

  118. Kramerica Industries says:

    Seriously, what the fuck is Robbie swinging at right now?

  119. Roadgeek Adam says:

    IBB incoming.

  120. BigBlueAL says:

    That wild pitch didnt even reach homeplate and Cano swung at it.

  121. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    How can ANYBODY swing at that pitch?

    Damn man, I could probably hold up on that pitch (Okay, I suck, probably not, but still!).

  122. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Robbie swings at a wild pitch.

  123. SDB says:

    FFS Robbie. He’s pitching AROUND YOU!

  124. The Real Greg says:

    Everybody’s complaining about Cano without realizing that they just scored a run.

    Not being critical, just observing

  125. BigBlueAL says:

    Cano has fouled off a hanging slider and changeup so far. Ugh.

  126. Clay Davis says:

    Thank god. Runs

  127. Kramerica Industries says:

    Damn. Robbie just didn’t pull that enough. That was some real good contact.

  128. The Real Greg says:

    He recovers and gets an RBI

  129. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Nice recovery Robbie.

  130. BigBlueAL says:

    That will work.

  131. I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

    Well, it wasn’t a strikeout or GIDP!

  132. SDB says:

    Good grief, Ma and Pa, stop screaming about the “productive out.”

    That’s the biggest hitter in the lineup and the guy who could be getting a 200M contract. A bit more than a sac fly is expected in these situations.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      It’s actually an improvement over most of his ABs of late, though. I’d have preferred a basehit, but when that AB started out I was sure Robbie would strike out.

    • The Real Greg says:

      You’re asking for the WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMbulance a bit.

  133. ExitCashman says:

    Way to go, Kingman!

  134. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    That was not a good at bat, Kay. That was a shit at bat. Robbie swung at shit, and he got lucky.

    • BigBlueAL says:

      The approach was bad but hell he wound up smoking one to deep center. Bad approach but in the end some bad luck.

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

        It’s like Schrodinger’s Cat. It was good and bad at the same time.

  135. The Real Greg says:

    Now the blame falls to Andy Pettitte for giving up 4 runs in 6 innings.

  136. ExitCashman says:

    And Mo Vaughn grounds out.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      Mo Vaughn at least had the excuse of a knee injury ending his career.
      Wells is still young and (presumably) healthy, yet he’s as terrible as it gets.

  137. BigBlueAL says:

    3 runs on 1 hit, 2 walks, 1 wild pitch, 1 sac fly and a groundout. Whatever works lol.

  138. Tom says:

    3 runs in an inning with one single? This is like the typical bullshit rally the Rays usually do at the Trop… maybe the Yankees can turn the tables?

  139. forensic says:

    Not exactly the most impressive or powerful rally, but hey, 3 runs is 3 runs. Gotta take whatever they can get at this point.

  140. Lukaszek says:

    Just FYI, Wells is OPS’ing .228 for this month. That’s not his AVG, or OBP, or even SLG. That’s how low his goddammed OPS is

    Also, Cano is OPS’ing .750, but somehow has two more walks than strikeouts this month. He’s an enigma

  141. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Turning this game off.

  142. The Real Greg says:


  143. BigBlueAL says:

    Of course.

  144. forensic says:

    Nice shutdown inning, Pettitte…

  145. SDB says:

    Ugh. Just when there was a glimmer of hope. Damnit, Andy.

  146. Cy Pettitte says:

    wow that’s fucking disgusting by Andy. are you kidding me? they get back in it and he comes up and serves up another run for the Rays.

  147. Kramerica Industries says:

    Fuck, Andy.

    This two out bullshit may have put this out of reach.

  148. BigBlueAL says:

    As Mike likes to say, typical taking the SP out 1 batter too late.

  149. your mom says:

    Sean Rodriguez, Yankee Killer.

  150. ExitCashman says:

    In comes Sid Fernandez…

  151. WhittakerWalt says:

    Nice job, Andy.

  152. RBC says:

    I love Andy Pettite and what he’s done for the Yanks, but I think its time for him to hang it up.

  153. stuart a says:

    game over now. pettitte got a reprieve but gave it right back.

    yanks got 3 hits on the game, a bloop by brignac, gardners lead off single and the ichiro infield hit.

    game is over….

    i trade Joba to the Tigers. I trade Hughes somewhere, and try to move some arms for bats. Young bats…andre ethiers No thank you……

  154. WhittakerWalt says:

    Joba in to hang a slider.

  155. Tom says:

    Well at least the Yankees cleared the picther’s Wells spot last inning

  156. WhittakerWalt says:

    No, John, “their three biggest hitters” does not accurately describe the trio of Cano, Hafner and Wells.

  157. Alkaline says:

    A come back walkoff would be nice.

  158. forensic says:

    Now Sterling and Suzyn can’t even see the difference between Moore and McGee, as they said Moore was out and McGee had started the inning.

    Time to go guys…

  159. ExitCashman says:

    Whoa… a Found Fool Double!

  160. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Man, we suck.

  161. Eddard says:

    They just ran into another out on the basepaths.

  162. forensic says:

    I’m sure that was another example of terrific baserunning.

    At least they can out-hit their other mistakes.

  163. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Nice Lyle nice.

  164. WhittakerWalt says:


  165. Cuso says:

    John McClain: “Welcome to the party, pal!”

  166. Tom says:

    Inning was kind of screwed with the baserunning blunder, but I wonder if Girardi would have PH fir Brignac with a guy on 2nd instead of 1st

  167. BigBlueAL says:

    I was watching Game 7 and didnt flip back in time, Girardi let Brignac face McGee??

  168. stuart a says:

    shocking Brignac did not get a hit.

    lucky he has the homerun swing.

    dreadful dreadful player… 4 hits is about it for the yanks tonight….

    the scary thing is Girardi’s options on the bench are 3 recent callups; adams, almonte, and neal and romine. actually 4 call ups and non are doing anything…

  169. WhittakerWalt says:

    I’m just glad I have John Sterling here to explain to me that, no, that was not a good baserunning play by Overbay. I wasn’t sure until he told me.

  170. stuart a says:

    joba is a joke, great stuff bad location and rocks in the head..

    he cannot leave town fast enough for me….

  171. Eddard says:

    And this is why Phil Hughes should be put in the pen. Maybe he can be better than Jobber in that role. Anybody but Hughes in the rotation. Anybody but Jobber in the pen.

  172. Tom says:

    Well at least they cleared the pitcher’s Brignac’s spot

  173. SDB says:

    Should never have hoped for a comeback.

    Ugh. It is getting more and more frustrating watching this team.

  174. BigBlueAL says:

    I know most people here cant wait for Hughes to leave but I really cant wait for Joba to get the hell out of here.

  175. Alkaline says:

    Ah Joba. That wasn’t good.

  176. WhittakerWalt says:

    Thanks for nothing, fatass.

  177. forensic says:

    It’s like Tampa was just toying with them. Get to 3 and just coast there for a bit, then add one for a 4th run.

    The Yankees somehow get 3 runs? Ok, Tampa will just score in each of the next 2 innings with no problem to open it back up again.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      It must be nice to have an offense.
      It just makes me even more annoyed at all the idiots last year who complained about us having TOO MUCH offense.

  178. SDB says:

    Anything Jobber can do, Boone can do better. Or worse. I’m not sure.

    Over to the Cards game now. I give up on this.

  179. Kramerica Industries says:


  180. WhittakerWalt says:


  181. Hans Moleman says:


  182. Cuso says:

    Are you fucking kidding me? The bullpen sees we score 3 runs, so lets pick tonight to piddlecock around?

  183. Tom says:

    Here’s what I don’t get…. If Girardi thought it was important enough to bring in a LOOGY to get a lefty out in a 3 run game, why isn’t he pulling him when a righty comes up in a 3 run game?

    If he just wanted Logan to get some work than there’s the 9th inning and Loney eventually coming up.

    • Cuso says:

      When he gave u0 the 2-run bomb, he figured thar Boone should just eat it.

      • Tom says:

        He gave up the 2 run bomb to a righty, not a lefty. My point is why did he leave him in to give up a 2 run bomb – to a righty?

        With noone on base and a lefty up, he thinks “I need to matchup and get a lefty” (seems logical to keep the game at 3 runs)

        With a guy on 2nd and a righty up (with the same deficit) “Meh, I’ll just leave my specialist in to face a righty”

        I completely understand him leaving him in after that though.

  184. Cuso says:

    Makes me vomit when I have to listen to these ignorant-as-fuck Rays announcers

  185. Frank says:

    Welcome to the lean years folks. Yanks had a very nice run for about 15 years. Now comes the pain and frustration of watching an old team in transition.

    • Rolling Doughnut says:

      Yep. It must be hard for the fans too young to have gone through this before, but it’s not a quick fix, one year problem. Could be a few harsh seasons ahead.

      • RBC says:

        You nailed it. I’m 34 years old and I remember the 80s. It was rough, but it got us to the 90s. Its time for the Yanks to start over. Its not a bad thing.

  186. I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

    I look at what they did in April, and what they’re doing now, and I really just can’t even believe that they are more or less the same team.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      They were overachieving like crazy in April. Winning a lot of games they had no business winning. That’s not sustainable.

      • I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

        Yea, a lot of close games but there was also a good deal of hitting. Not this 3 hit, 4 hit game crap.

      • RBC says:

        Exactly. Its also worth mentioning that the other teams weren’t warmed up yet. Now its prime time and we see who and what the teams really are.

  187. Lukaszek says:

    Can we trade spots with the Brewers? They’re just as bad record-wise, but at least their offense is watchable

  188. Cuso says:

    It seems that there is an attitude problem on this team now too. Manifesting itself on little physical cues on the field.

    Just float that throw because you’re pissy, Boone. No problem.

  189. Tom says:

    Bailey just blew another save and gave up a 2 run walk off HR

    So at least there’s that…

  190. number 21 says:

    Tigers beat Red Sox on walk off homerun.

  191. Cuso says:

    Well at least Andrew Bailey sucks

  192. Pasta says:

    Cashman has to go get some players
    Need a catcher a thirdbaseman a ss aright handed power hitter
    Trade the shit off the team logan joba hughes adams
    Get rid of brignac that nelson guy was better this guy is a blackhole

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