Game 79: A Big Series

Heyman: Yankees looking to acquire a third baseman
Yanks can't protect 3-0 lead, drop third straight
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This is the most important series of the season to date. The Yankees and Orioles are tied in the loss column, both three back of Boston and two up on Tampa. Whoever wins this series will end the weekend in second place, and whoever loses could wind up as far back as fourth. The Yankees have little margin of error because of their inability to score runs, so these intra-division games are so damn important. They can’t afford to fall any further back in the division. Having to pass one team is hard enough, nevermind having to pass two or three. Here’s the lineup that will face rookie Rule 5 Draft left-hander T.J. McFarland:

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. SS Jayson Nix
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. DH Vernon Wells
  5. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  6. LF Zoilo Almonte
  7. C Chris Stewart
  8. 1B David Adams
  9. 3B Alberto Gonzalez

And on the mound after much confusion is left-hander CC Sabathia.

It has been raining in Baltimore for most of the afternoon and it’s supposed to rain again later tonight, but apparently there’s a three or so hour window for them to play. First pitch is scheduled for 7:05pm ET and can be seen on My9. Enjoy.

Injury Updates: Mark Teixeira (wrist) will have his surgery at NYU on Monday … Derek Jeter (ankle) took some simulated at-bats in Tampa today and yesterday, his first time facing live hitters. He also started running on the field recently … Alex Rodriguez (hip) continues to face live pitchers in simulated at-bats, plus he’s running the bases and doing more side-to-side movement while fielding grounders.

Rotation Update: Joe Girardi confirmed Ivan Nova will start at some point against the Twins next week, but he’s not sure which day. This is so dumb, I don’t understand why they’re playing with a short bench considering how awful the offense has been.

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Heyman: Yankees looking to acquire a third baseman
Yanks can't protect 3-0 lead, drop third straight
  • Kramerica Industries

    Apparently the last time Boston had a 3.5 game lead in the AL East was almost exactly this date (June 29) in 2009, which kinda surprised me. I was certain they led by more than that at some point in 2011, but the Yankees had a great (regular) season that year and led throughout September, so I shouldn’t be too surprised, I guess.

    Damn. I always have such a weird recollection of the 2011 team. They surprised me with how good they were that season; I didn’t think they would win the division, and they had Freddy Garcia and Bartolo Colon basically save their rotation that season. I saw a playoff team, but I didn’t see a World Series team there. They started the season 20-19. They lost eight of their first ten games against the Red Sox, including all six at Yankee Stadium. But, dammit, they went 77-46 over the last 123 games and finished with the best record in the AL. I thought that team had a legit chance of going all the way.

    Fucking Game 5 against the Tigers. One of the most irritating baseball games I have ever watched (I think I speak for all of us there). One bad night, at the most inopportune time, ruined a fantastic season.

    • Lukaszek

      The 2011 team was a nice surprise after watching the painful 2010 team. They entered the year with a very uncertain rotation, but got lightning in a bottle pitching from Freddy, Colon, and their entire bullpen

      Also, if you’re wondering how the 2010 team was “painful” to watch, it’s because it seems as if everyone on the team had a career worst year. Also add in the fact that two of the starting pitchers had 5.29+ ERAs

    • Wolfgang’s Fault

      Wonder how Jeter made out when he confronted those dead hitters? Those live hitters better mind their peas and cues.

      As for playing w/a short bench, when you’re short on wood, you make do with what you got — so I’ve been told.

  • dkidd

    that is quite a line-up

    /shoots self in face

    • Robinson Tilapia

      You made me look up. Wish I hadn’t.

      Watch them score 15 runs.

      • TomH

        Some time between now and 2050

    • trr

      Adams/Gonzalez…yuck

      • Canofan1

        Stewart
        Adams
        Gonzalez

      • Binder Buster

        Wells is STILL hitting fourth. I don’t get it.. I just don’t get it. Hafner is better than Wells, Hell I’d rather see Overbay swing it.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Is anyone else having an issue with comments occasionally vanishing and then later reappearing?

    • forensic

      Yup, I’ve been having that. I’ve had the comment number total at the top not equaling the actual number of comments. Lots of issues in the last few weeks, and especially the last week or so.

      • forensic

        I’ve *also* had the comment number…

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        Yeah, glitches in the changeover, I guess.
        Glad to know it’s not an issue on my end anyways.

        • forensic

          Yeah, I had recently done a java update, so I thought that was screwing with things, but apparently not. The fan confidence poll format was another change that messed with several people too.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Fuck.

    Just realized that both the Yankees and Rays are FOX games tomorrow night. I love when the $115 I pay for MLB.tv still won’t yield me the ability to watch the Yankees live.

    Hello illegal streams! I’ve missed you, old friends.

    • Winter

      Hello illegal stream my old friend. I’ve come to watch you again.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Professional. Baseball. Player.

  • Anderson Silva

    Nix hitting 2nd, how can anyone defend Girardi? Obviously he goes 2-0 against a crappy pitcher and grounds out to third.. What a fucking shitty player

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      They could stack the 3 lefties 1-3. Other than that, there is really no better option.

      Ichiro really should be hitting higher though.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    There’s your run CC, make it last.

    • forensic

      /Greg’d :-)

      • vicki

        greg will ridiculously resent cc if he can’t make a one run lead stick. what needs says is our sad recent reality.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Useless parallel alert:

    The last time I can remember Vernon Wells being useful was in the series opener last time the Yankees were in Baltimore. That was, what, May 20?

    So, if he lost his usefulness in Baltimore, it would only stand to reason that he can find it again in his return to Baltimore, right?

    • The Real Greg

      Wrong

    • Winter

      There was the pinch-hit double that won the game for the Yankees a few games back.

      • Kramerica Industries

        That was one hit. I’m talking about when Wells was actually still a usable everyday player.

  • forensic

    I agree with the stupidity of having a short bench, but it’s not like anyone healthy down in AAA would be much of a help to the offense anyway, so that’s not really the reason. The reason it’s stupid is just that it extremely limits them in anything they do.

    Of course, whatever they did, Girardi would probably try to find a way to mess with it anyway. Wells still batting cleanup? Nix batting 2nd again? I understand dropping Ichiro (a little) to try to drive in runners, but at least put him ahead of Wells. Or leave him 2nd and have 3 batters together without an out between them. Or put him 4th and Almonte 2nd since he may at least draw a walk as opposed to Nix.

    • The Real Greg

      Putting 5 lefties in a row against a lefty starter is asking for it.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        There are only 3 lefties in the lineup.
        And 2 of the 3 are the teams best hitters vs. LHP.

      • Anderson Silva

        if they happen to be your five best hitters, you have to do it. Wells hitting 4th is Girardi’s way of trolling Yankees’ fans

        • The Real Greg

          And you will be shellacked by the fans and media for doing so.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

            Not when they see who the RH’s in the lineup are.

      • forensic

        None of the scenarios I said put 5 lefties in a row. Hell, none of them even put 4 lefties in a row.

        • The Real Greg

          Almonte is virtually a lefty. Has poor numbers career against lefty pitchers.

          • forensic

            And still just hit the ball hard and got a hit…

            • The Real Greg

              I know. I think he is 1-5 against lefties so far.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

            2011-13 vs. LHP (milb) 270/325/414 (nothing special, but compared to most of the rest of the lineup…)
            2013 vs. LHP (AAA) 281/342/328 (no power, but again, compared to the rest of the lineup…)

            He was awful vs. LHP last year though, so who knows?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Nix .367 OBP vs. LHP this year (granted SSS). .320 career OBP vs. LHP.
      That qualifies him as one of the best table setters in this lineup.

      • forensic

        He’s in a huge slump though and isn’t hitting anyone right now. It’s hard to really trust the seasonal numbers of many of these guys considering their basic talent levels.

        I would absolutely be playing with the lineup more to keep the hot hands together whenever you find them.

        • The Real Greg

          Didn’t he just hit a home run two days ago?

          • forensic

            And that is his only hit in the last 15 AB’s. And only 2 hits in 25 AB’s.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          “He’s in a huge slump though and isn’t hitting anyone right now.”

          Unfortunately, this applies to most of the lineup.
          Ichiro is definitely too low, though.
          Gardner, Ichiro, and Cano all need to be in the top 4 in some order. Hate to say it, but Nix might be the best choice for the other spot. Maybe Wells or Almonte could be better. I don’t see any of them as a good choice.

    • nycsportzfan

      Of course another positon player would be smarter then what there doing now. Even if the guy isn’t a great hitter, just being able to put the ball in play as compared to some of our lefties against lefties, is a bonus. We get screwed more then ever with guys on 3rd base less then 2out and a bum lefty against a lefty that simply can’t put the ball in play. Thats when a righty would be essential.

  • nycsportzfan

    I despise wells.

  • Kramerica Industries

    lol Miggy.

  • The Real Greg

    Nix batting second doesn’t bother me against a lefty.

    Wells batting cleanup is another story. Unfortunately there really isn’t any other choice.

  • forensic

    He also started running on the field recently …

    When does Cano start that?

    /tooeasy

    • VT Yankee Fan

      I actually chuckled aloud at that.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Really, the Orioles are the polar opposites of the Yankees.

    All hitting, no pitching.

    It should be no surprise they are on, what, an 86 win pace right now?

  • DLSIII

    What will it take to get Montero back?

    • The Real Greg

      Why? He sucks too.

      • WhittakerWalt

        That’s gotta be satire. Montero isn’t even in the big leagues.

        • The Real Greg

          And there’s a reason why.

          • DLSIII

            You do see the numbers on our DH and first baseman right?

            • The Real Greg

              Yes and there are better options than Jesus Montero out there.

            • WhittakerWalt

              Travis Hafner OPS+ .765 = bad
              Lyle Overbay OPS+ .712 = fucking weak
              Vernon Wells OPS+ .633 = real, real bad

              And
              Jesus Montero OPS+ .590 = ungodly horrible

  • nycsportzfan

    Zoilo on base again.

  • Winter

    Holy Machado, Batman! How did he possibly make it that close?

  • Anderson Silva

    damn Almonte got balls, running on Wieters

  • Tom

    Ztolen baZe….

  • Wheels

    Just turned on the game, how did we score that run?

    • The Real Greg

      Gardner double, Cano single

      • Wheels

        thanks

  • forensic

    Can Zoilo steal 3rd?

    and home…

  • WhittakerWalt

    Nice situational AB there, Stewie.

    • forensic

      Just checked, somehow Romine has a higher BA (barely) in June than Stewart. His OBP and SLG are lower, but still, all the hatred toward playing Romine you’d think Stewart was way ahead there still.

      • The Real Greg

        Stewart has looked better defensively than Romine. His throwing out base stealers is a real separator.

      • Tom

        While Chris Stewart has been better than his past baseline (wRC+ 78 vs career wRC+ 67), he’s really started regressing of late.

        Last month wRC +69
        Last 2 weeks wRC +32

        • forensic

          I knew he had dropped off. Just didn’t think that Romine would be up in the .230’s himself.

      • WhittakerWalt

        Is Romine better defensively? I don’t get to see enough of the games to evaluate, but if he is I think they might as well play Romine. At least he’s young and could theoretically get better. We know what Stewart is by now.

        • forensic

          They may be close defensively, maybe a slight advantage to Stewart. But, I would also be playing Romine more often to see if he can find some semblance of rhythm.

          And the future is a big reason for it. Both Stewart and Cervelli are arb eligible starting next year. Obviously, neither will get much, but it’ll be more than Romine (or even Murphy if they somehow go crazy and put him on the MLB roster) would make, so it’s a way to save a little money if they just pick one (Cervelli hopefully).

  • Kramerica Industries

    This is going to be a long game if for no other reason than because we’re going to constantly be subjected to the sight of a grown man, at least in his 50’s, wearing a fucking blue tank top every time a RHB is shown from the side perspective.

    Holy crap. Someone in Baltimore should know better than that.

    • Winter

      Someone in Baltimore should know better than that.

      I think you answered your own question.

  • Anderson Silva

    I guess the even numbered spots in the lineup must be really pathetic.. Nix, Wells, Stewart, damn!

    • forensic

      7 (for Stewart) is not an even number. Adams at 8 could qualify though.

      • Winter

        What he didn’t mention is that the odd numbered spots are also really pathetic.

        • forensic

          Well, to be fair, at least Gardner, Cano, and Ichiro are in 3 of the 5 odd spots. They’re easily the 3 best hitters right now.

  • Lukaszek

    Holy shit, Machado has a rocket for an arm O.O That was one of the fastest throws I’ve ever seen

  • vicki

    hey, mcfail, you just walked david adams on four pitches.

  • nycsportzfan

    The funniest part of this game so far is how many righties we got in there that have K’d all ready. Almost all of our righties have K’d against the lefty..lol And we scored are run of 2 lefty on lefty hits.

    Zoilo’s hit should of been a out by the way.

    • Anderson Silva

      must bat RHBs against lefty pitchers

      • The Real Greg

        I’ll say this. Girardi is not the only guy who follows that. Doesn’t make it right, but strength in numbers.

        • nycsportzfan

          agreed, but most of those teams aren’t putting in players like Wells, Adams, and Gonzalez to make it happen.

          Cano 2-2.

    • WhittakerWalt

      It must be very reassuring to be an opposing pitcher and know that you can just K anyone on the other team if you need to. Man on 2nd, nobody out? No problem, Chris Stewart’s at the plate. 2 on, 1 out? No sweat, there’s Alberto Gonzalez. Easy peasy.

  • Dalek Jeter

    I’d take Davis’ numbers at the halfway point over a full season for anybody on the Yankees lineup, except maybe Cano.

    • WhittakerWalt

      I read this really quick, and at first I thought you’d written Ike Davis. I thought stuart had taken over your brain.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Hahahaha, that’s funny because I just reread it real quick and I thought I said that too and I was about to frantically correct myself.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Still though, .333 28HRs? Fuck yeah!

  • nycsportzfan

    God, its gonna be hard to not have Derek Jeter playing anymore. I can’t believe how fast his career went by. I still remember that opening day against Clevland like it was yesterday. Time goes by way to fast.

  • forensic

    Longoria apparently pulled up lame running out a grounder and left the game. That might drop them a bit if he’s out for some time.

  • Kramerica Industries

    I’m liking this Robbie 2-2 against a LHP business.

  • forensic

    That White Sox/Indians game is getting crazy. And it’s just the 1st game of a DHer too.

  • forensic

    Any chance Wells can actually put the ball in play this time? And get it deep enough to score Nix?

    • forensic

      Hallelujah!

    • The Real Greg

      Yep

  • Winter

    Wait, why is Wells staying at first base?

  • Dalek Jeter

    Vernon did good!!

    • lightSABR

      I love scoring runs. :)

      Anybody know when Vernon’s last RBI was?

      • Dalek Jeter

        Probably the pinch hit game winning double last week.

      • forensic

        Just 6 days ago, the bases loaded double.

        Of course, outside of that he only has 3 in about 5 weeks, so it’s understand to think that way.

        • lightSABR

          Ah. Yeah. Forgot about that.

          Of course, what does it say about our year that 6 days between RBIs for a middle-of-the-order bat is actually pretty good?

  • vicki

    will wonders never cease.

  • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

    Sweet, sweet offense.

  • nycsportzfan

    Wow, Wells got a ribby single! All right!! I despise him a tad less right now! Go ahead yanks!

  • Dalek Jeter

    Why would you be bunting Ichiro?!?!?! You’re one of the few noncorpses in the line up right now!!

    • The Real Greg

      That’s not Girardi. Otherwise Ichiro would have been showing bunt all 3 times.

  • The Real Greg

    Don’t think about bunting Ichiro

  • forensic

    Don’t bunt Ichiro! You’re one of the few hitting.

    And no John, it’s not a good idea for him to bunt. He’s needs to try to drive the run in, not set it up for another potentially painful man on 3rd, less than 2 out, failure.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Sterling ALWAYS thinks the bunt is a good idea.

  • Tom

    Vernon Wells, in play (runs)

    First thought… GIDP
    Second thought… weak grounder/forceout or error

  • Dalek Jeter

    Start the runners!

    • Dalek Jeter

      Thank god he didn’t listen to me.

    • The Real Greg

      That would have been 2.

  • pat

    Pulled the string. Great 3-2 pitch.

  • nycsportzfan

    I just realized CC is going for win num 200 tonight. Pretty neat!

  • Eddard

    Why didn’t Ichiro bunt those runners over? Zolio could have gotten one in with a productive out.

    • WhittakerWalt

      You’re funny.

  • forensic

    He battled, but Ichiro put himself in that position by stupidly trying to bunt and getting down in the count 1-2 (unless it was put on by Girardi which certainly wouldn’t be surprising).

    • The Real Greg

      He got it to 3-2 man. Doesn’t matter how he got there.

      • forensic

        It does matter, because if he didn’t bunt at the 1st one or fake at the 3rd one, he could’ve potentially hit one of them with a normal swing.

        • The Real Greg

          That’s true. He didn’t show bunt on the second pitch, which told me he was doing it on his own.

          In the end, the Yankees have scored 3 runs.

      • Tom

        Fallacy!

        Who knows how that AB turns out if he isn’t bunting that first pitch.

        • The Real Greg

          FALLACY back because you can’t say that he would have gotten a hit.

          • forensic

            He didn’t say he would have…

            Stop saying it when you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.

          • Tom

            I;m saying who the hell knows what happens but putting yourself into a 0-1 hole changes things.. it changes how you are pitched, what pitches are thrown.

            Your comment that it got to 3-2 and it doesn’t matter how he got there is a fallacy.

  • forensic

    Come on Stewart, we need one of those 15 hoppers through the 5.5 hole.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Or a parachute into CF. Either one works. I don’t know if any big league hitter makes softer contact than our Stewie.

  • Tom

    Chris Stewart’s got this…

  • pat

    Had Stewart always had that open stance?

  • Kramerica Industries

    Miggy is fucking nuts.

    • The Doctor

      200 wRC+… Meh.

  • Eddard

    Offensive juggernauts!

  • forensic

    Yes! Not a 15-hopper, but it gets the same job done. Nice Stewart!

  • The Real Greg

    So did Girardi mess this lineup?

    • Tom

      Yes.

      • The Real Greg

        Run total says otherwise, and remember about media outlets..

        • Dalek Jeter

          Nobody but you cares about the media outlets, because we base our opinions on what we see in the numbers and in the play and the at the time decision making. Media outlets (I’m speaking from experience) report in hindsight.

          • The Real Greg

            That’s right. And those reports are printed and read by millions of people., most of which didn’t see the game. And will not care about process.

            • Dalek Jeter

              And “what the fans think” should be somewhere between “the bat boy’s opinion” and “what would Mitch Williams do” in a manager’s lineup decision or just any on the field decision made by any baseball organization.

              • The Real Greg

                Wasn’t there a baseball team that used fan opinion to manage in game once? It might be another sport.

                Anyway fans are the lifeblood for organizations and they pay the money.

                • Dalek Jeter

                  And then the organization turns around and uses that money to pay people who have been in the industry for most of (if not all of) their adult lives to make decisions.

          • Tom

            Come on, how can you not care about media outlets?!?

            When I think “Is this a good move”, my second thought is “what would the media outlets think?”

    • Dalek Jeter

      Greg, I will tell you every time:

      Process>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>results

      • The Real Greg

        And I will tell you every time.

        Media outlets only care about results.

        • Dalek Jeter

          You are the only one who cares what the media outlets say.

        • forensic

          Do you really think anyone here gives a shit what Wally Matthews, George King, or even Mark Feinsand have to say or question at the end of the game???

          We have our own minds and opinions, so just give up your schtick already. Go find a new one…

          • Dalek Jeter

            I care so little about what Mark Feinsand has to say I usually at least consider changing to the non-yankee broadcast when I’m listening on the radio during “The Daily News Fifth”

            • forensic

              I don’t mind him much, certainly rather him over the others, but what he says or thinks isn’t really going to push my opinion that much.

    • forensic

      Yes, he did. And now on top of it, he has the (slightly less) bad problem (because of the score) of having Nix and Wells in the 2 and 4 spots against a righty.

      If he did it any of the ways I, or others, suggested, he’d have his 3 best lefties together at the top or the 3 lefties and Almonte from his stronger side at the top against a righty and potentially have had similar success against the lefty AND now be in a better position against the righty.

      • The Real Greg

        My guess is that Buck will bring in the lefties when they reach the top of the lineup.

        But in the end, millions of people will just see the scoreboard and not care how they got there.

        • forensic

          Your guess is wrong. He’s not going to blow out his bullpen by using his longman for only two batters.

          You really act like you’ve never seen a baseball game before in your life.

          • The Real Greg

            Then he should have started Gausman then.

            • forensic

              Why, when he can start the lefty and know he’s going to get Girardi to overmanage his lineup into issues like he may have now?

              • The Real Greg

                Except they’ve scored 3 runs and have a 3-0 lead.

                • forensic

                  Partly because of fluke/bloop hits from Wells, Nix, and Stewart, not because of anything great Girardi did. And it’s still early in the game. And because Sabathia hasn’t allowed a hit yet.

          • Tom

            Not to mention one lefty has worked the last 3 days, and the other has worked 3 of the last 4.

            I guess he could go all Scott Proctor on them though.

      • Tom

        Ding and ding.

        Though he can at least PH for Vernon Wells at DH… of course up 3 runs I’m pretty sure baseball rules prohibit that. He can also potentially pinch hit Loverbay at some point for Nix if need and shuffly the IF’s around. Of course you’d normally want to use those guys for Gonzalez or Stewart or Adams

        In fairness to Girardi, the lineup is not terrible against lefties, but it is still not optimal.

        • vicki

          not optimal? 74wrc+ v. lhp. only the white sox are worse in the al.

  • Anderson Silva

    LOL nice hit Stewie!

  • Anderson Silva

    strikezone is ridiculously big against adams..

  • Crime Dog

    Holy crap Gausman’s got some nasty stuff

  • The Doctor

    Is it just me or has CC really been putting more effort into fielding lately? I could be completely imagining things, but it seems like he’s been busting his ass of the mound and covering 1st more lately. That’s one freebie way to improve his production while he declines a bit from age.

  • Eddard

    Isn’t Gonzalez supposed to be the defensive utility player? Why is he playing?

    • The Real Greg

      It was just said. They really have no 3rd baseman.

  • Anderson Silva

    Why is Gonzalez on third and Nix at SS?

    • The Real Greg

      That’s a good question.

      • The Doctor

        Nixy feels more comfortable at shortstopy, so we’re putting him there and using Alberto…y at thirdy.

        At least I assume.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Come on Doctor…it’s Alby. or Berty. You’re better than that.

    • forensic

      So Girardi can continue his overmanaging by going so far as to just swap infielders back and forth.

  • The Doctor

    Still not getting Gonzalez at 3rd and Nix at short. Gonzalez is actually a capable major league shortstop defensively. Why do we have the better defender at the less difficult spot?

  • Dalek Jeter

    CC is ON tonight.

    • The Doctor

      93s and 94s all over the place.

      CC’s demise has been greatly etc. etc.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Trivia answers absolutely have to be Clete Boyer and Graig Nettles.

    • vicki

      boggs!

      • Kramerica Industries

        Wasn’t even thinking of Wade.

        Damn.

  • The Real Greg

    Buck should have just started Gausman. Girardi and Buck have a penchant for overmanaging a bit.

    • The Doctor

      A lot of good managers do really. They have good minds for managing a ball club and they just take it a bit too far. The absolute best managers know just when to stop, but I’d take a Girardi/Showalter type over most others.

    • vicki

      i don’t think i could’ve resisted the urge to start the lefty after yesterday’s yankee limpness.

  • forensic

    Wait, Showalter’s not bringing in a lefty already for the lefties now? I’m so confused…

    • The Real Greg

      I know. Buck wanted to play mind games and so far it has backfired.

      It’s like when he took out Freddy Garcia with 66 pitches and Overbay hit a homer off the lefty.

  • your mom

    Gonzalez might be worse than Brignac.

    • Winter

      Gonzalez has a wRC+ of 36, which is god-awful. Brignac had a wRC+ of 19…

  • adjusts batting gloves

    Why Alberto Gonzalez? Ever. I’d like to start the ‘call up Addison Maruszak’ fanclub. He’s 27, pure organizational depth guy, but is managing to hit .270 in AAA and nominally plays third and short. It’s time for this season’s ‘Bang the Drum Slowly’ moment!

    • The Doctor

      Did you see him in Spring Training? He’s really just not good at anything.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Yet Alberto Gonzalez is here, Ben Francisco has been here, Jayson Nix is batting 2nd on a regular basis, not being good at anything doesn’t mean anything anymore. Give me as much shit to throw at the wall as possible and let’s see what sticks.

  • Dalek Jeter

    16-10 Browns over the Bears, extra point pending.

    • forensic

      Dunn’s having a nice game for my team. Rios, not so much…

  • The Doctor

    Not a good result there, but Cano’s all over everything. Might finally be time for him to come out of the slump.

  • Tom

    So does Cashman look to extend Gardner this offseason?

    I know defense/speed guys often decline fast, but if they can tack on 2-3 years after nest year at a reasonable rate? Maybe tack on 3/24? (too little?)

    I’d like to see them be aggressive with both Robertson and Gardner and end the no extension (or only in extreme circumstances) policy

    • The Doctor

      I’d like to see it too. They don’t have room to be giving out gigantic extensions to anyone other than Cano, but they really don’t have anyone worth that kind of deal anyway. Seeing as there will be holes in the outfield and bullpen anyway, I’d like to see 3 year extensions explored for both of them as well.

      • Tom

        How much though?

        He’s basically been a 5 WAR player when healthy- but seeing as a lot of that is defense he would not be paid like one on the open market.

        I’d be good at up to 10mil per, but I get the feeling that some would think that’s nuts (and maybe it is?)

        • forensic

          Well, Bourn got an AAV of $12 million. I would put Gardner right there with him (maybe a touch lower), so $10 million isn’t completely insane. It feels a little high though (also since I think Bourn is vastly overpaid).

          It’s interesting to consider and think about though.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

            I’d be fine with $10M AAV if they don’t have to go past 2016.

            • forensic

              Yeah, the years are certainly the big thing, other than what they may consider too much considering $189 million.

              • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

                I’m assuming/hoping the $189M plan goes out with the rest of the garbage on trash day.

                • forensic

                  I’m still conflicted on that, but it wouldn’t make me sad.

                  Apropros of nothing, that also made me think of The West Wing with them throwing all the stories out with the trash on Fridays, which is never a bad thing…

    • forensic

      I wouldn’t mind it (depending on the years), but I don’t really expect it to happen.

  • Kramerica Industries

    I’m watching this game sans audio because my good computer is basically fried at this point.

    But are these multiple shots towards the Orioles grounds crew an indication that a rain shower may be nearer than what earlier weather reports indicated? If that’s the case, we’re still six outs, as it is, from official status.

    • forensic

      It’s official now. :-)

  • Dalek Jeter

    So…when do we start talking about it?

    • VT Yankee Fan

      It’s fair to start after 5,

  • forensic

    Suzyn and John were just talking about Matt Harvey throwing a no-hitter, and going on and on about who would get the back page if he and CC both did.

    And right away, Desmond homers off Harvey. Took care of that one quickly.

  • The Real Greg

    You can talk about seeing the lefty pitchers thrive and forcing Girardi into a bad lineup.

    But in the end, Gausman clearly has the better stuff and probably should have started this game.

  • Eddard

    CC could have a perfecto going if it weren’t for Gonzalez. If that’s his only blemish Gonzalez should be cut tomorrow.

  • The Doctor

    I sort of want CC to walk a guy because if he does, you know, IT and the only blemish is an error, I’m not going to be particularly happy.

  • The Doctor

    No god dammit Kay, you don’t say that. What is wrong with Yankees commentators.

  • The Doctor

    No god dammit Kay, you don’t say that. What is wrong with Yankees commentators?

    • Dalek Jeter

      Kay and Sterling both think that this particular superstition is all mumbo jumbo.

  • Tom

    Damn… Jim Johnson shit the bed against Boston (he’s done after 3.1IP, 5ER). Was hoping this might be a night to pickup some ground.

    Apparently reports of the Blue Jays starting staff turning things around were greatly exaggeratd

    • forensic

      Josh Johnson…

      You had me confused for a second with Jim and the O’s.

    • vicki

      somebody should remind jojo he’s in a contract year.

  • vicki

    shut it, kenny.

    • The Doctor

      Kay already said it. Sterling’s probably done it 15 times at this point. I know it’s irrational but it’s part of the fun. The commentators are not bigger than the game’s traditions, so they should stop acting like they are.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Well, there that goes.

  • The Doctor

    Yeah and it’s all your fault Michael.

    Okay not really, but the complete disregard for a very, very well-known tradition bothers me.

    • Darren

      Me too. It’s harmless fun and adds to the tradition. He takes such glee in saying it too. Sometimes he’s a pumpkinheaded fuck.

    • Ethan

      Absolutely agree. Baseball is a superstitious sport. Why as an announcer are you going on and on about a no-no. It bugs the hell out of me.

    • vicki

      yep. there’s a way to make an ever-so-cagey reference without pissing people off. i don’t believe in god or the afterlife, but sports jinxes are real.

  • Eddard

    And there goes the no hitter. It was a good run nonetheless.

  • forensic

    I had to turn the volume on the radio down for a couple minutes, missing the McLouth AB/hit.

    I’ll take the blame on that one.

  • your mom

    I seriously fucking hate Mclouth.

  • rex

    Michael kay: “0-1, next pitch just foul, 1-1…”

    Is Meredith blowing him?

  • Kramerica Industries

    Oh here we go with the cheap shit hits that gets the Orioles back in the game.

    Dammit.

  • The Real Greg

    That’s David Adams. Horrible play

  • WhittakerWalt

    Well, shit.

  • vicki

    well, to be fair i didn’t know cc was going to get it.

  • Eddard

    Adams, Gonzalez, they’re both awful defenders. At least put Overbay back in the ballgame.

    • The Doctor

      Gonzalez is fine when he’s, you know, playing his position.

      • pat

        Same with Adams.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    Rational or not but damn it Adams.

    • The Doctor

      I understand Overbay needs days off now and then, but this is a pretty important game to win. A partial off day should be all he gets at this point. They probably aren’t going to score many more runs, so they’ve got to get the best defense they can out there. It might very well be 2 outs and a man on 2nd right now if they made the move.

  • The Doctor

    Wow it’s just CC’s broken up perfecto against the Indians all over again. The second it’s over, the bad luck just takes over.

    Or maybe it’s just the lack of a competent 1st baseman.

  • your mom

    Okay CC, please don’t shit the bed here.

  • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

    Maybe its just me but it seems CC likes to go after Markakis up and in very often.

  • forensic

    Ugh…

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Dammit.

    No more please.

  • The Real Greg

    You can chalk one of those to David Adams

  • WhittakerWalt

    Fucking hell.

  • Eddard

    Here’s where CC unravels like he did vs the Rays when he gave up that grand slam. Time to get the pen up, and not Jobber.

    • The Doctor

      Oh for God’s sake give him a minute. You act like this isn’t his 13th season as one of the game’s elite pitchers.

  • WhittakerWalt

    David Adams is fired.

  • The Real Greg

    Dumb play by Machado, but it worked.

  • pat

    Did Gardner forget who was on 2nd? Come on dude can’t just camp under that.

  • WhittakerWalt

    I like that Meredith’s got a little thickness to her.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Get Jones out and end this fiasco. Losing the lead here would be extremely demoralizing.

  • WhittakerWalt

    So John, you really think CC’s entertaining the idea of walking Adam Jones to get to Chris Davis? Really?

    • WhittakerWalt

      OK, so that actually would have worked out if he had, but it’s still a bonehead move.

  • The Real Greg

    CHEAP HITS. Nothing going the Yankees way

  • Kramerica Industries

    Two fucking chicken shit hits this inning.

    Fucking #OriolesMagic strikes again.

  • Wheels

    Fuck!

  • Mick taylor

    When I saw David Adams in the lineup at first base, I knew his fielding would hurt the yanks he is not a major leaguer

  • WhittakerWalt

    Dis some bullshit.

  • The Doctor

    You have got. To be. F’ing. Kidding me.

  • Eddard

    They blew it. Unbelievable. Poor defense, poor pitching. From no hitter to tie ballgame.

    • The Doctor

      Poor pitching? He’s given up one hard hit ball and one kind of loopy line drive. Without the bad defense and bad luck, he’s given up one run.

  • forensic

    Well, that all went to shit quickly…

  • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

    We can’t give up only one run or two, we have to give up the entire lead. Not entirely CC’s fault but man its annoying.

  • The Real Greg

    Can’t blame the offense, can’t blame the manager, can’t even really blame CC.

    Bad luck and crappy defense.

  • Eddard

    Jobber’s warming to give up another 3 runs.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    1) If we lose, second worst loss of the year.

    2) Our chances of winning this game, especially with Joba warming up, have probably dipped significantly lower than ten percent.

    • Kramerica Industries

      Jeez, what’s the worst?

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        Come on, blown save against the Mets. Is this really a question?

        • Kramerica Industries

          Yeah, you see, I already kind of tried to forget that week from hell against the Mets ever happened.

    • pat

      Why is it our second worst loss of the year?

    • Wheels

      What about the 18 inning loss to the A’s? That was scarring.

  • Kramerica Industries

    The double was bad, no doubt, but talk about just some awful luck this inning for C.C.

    Two big hits that didn’t even travel 100 feet there.

    • The Doctor

      Practically identical to his complete game against the Indians. Absolutely fantastic pitching, gave up runs on bad luck and bad defense. When a guy who is, by his career standards, having a down year really seems to be in a groove, the defense can’t just let him down like it has lately. CC’s not exactly spry off the mound, but that 2nd hit was clearly within his reach, Adam shouldn’t have even thought about it. Even IF Adams got to the ball, who is he planning on throwing to? Those are the exact kind of mistakes you can’t make when you’re as worthless of a hitter as he is.

      • Kramerica Industries

        Probably his instinctive nature as a third baseman. I don’t know how much he’s played first in the past, but he probably wasn’t thinking about that play from a 1B POV.

  • WhittakerWalt

    “Joba Chamberlain up in the Yankees pen.”

    Words none of us ever want to hear.

  • vicki

    joe, actually throwing in an actual towel isn’t as Throwing in the Towel as bringing in joba.

  • The Real Greg

    This Yankees team is so difficult to watch, The only problem is I have nothing better to do.

  • your mom

    Great job boys.

  • Ethan

    Get some fucking runs.

  • Mick taylor

    Chris Jenkins was better Adams should be dfabpermanently

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      1) Who the hell is Chris Jenkins?
      2) No

      • forensic

        I’m also trying to figure out what dfab means.

      • Mick taylor

        i mean Nelson. But Jenkins is better

  • The Real Greg

    And I see the fucking Boston Red Sox and their fans being happy and I say “Why?”

  • Wheels

    I get the impression that Joba just doesn’t really give a shit up there.

    • The Doctor

      Luckily CC got out of the inning so we don’t have to see his mug just yet. If CC can get through another inning, maybe two, we could be spared altogether.

  • Eddard

    Of course Nix scalds the ball and it hits the pitcher and bounces right to a fielder. The Os hit two dribblers that let them tie the game.

    • The Real Greg

      Exactly. Will the Yankees ever be lucky ever again?

      /slightly serious

    • pat

      Did everyone forget Stewart hit a duckfart to CF for a RBI?

  • Kramerica Industries

    Are you fucking kidding me?

    That was headed for the middle and turns into a 1-5-3 putout. #OriolesMagic can go fuck itself.

  • Frank

    I realize O’s got a couple cheap hits but the bottom line is CC didn’t get out Machado, arguably the O’s best hitter In a big spot. As bad as this offense is, Yanks may not get another run this game.

    • The Doctor

      Uh. Yeah, he didn’t get out a great hitter who’s great in situations like that. Is this somehow a knock on him? If it was a backup catcher doing the damage, that’s a problem, but when the only really hard hit ball you give up all inning is to a hitter who does it as much as anyone, it’s hard to place too much blame on him. I’m not saying he would’ve gotten out of the inning unscathed with better luck/defense, but it probably would’ve been just one run.

  • Duh Injuries

    The Yanks should look into trading Sabathia in the offseason to a National League team for at least three starting pitching prospects they could definitely get as he would EASILY be a classic “final piece” to a World Series contender.

    ‘Say the Yanks traded him in the offseason for three starters where any one of them could start for the Yankees in 2014 and re-signed Kuroda.

    The Yanks rotation after Kuroda could be four from Hughes (if he accepted arbitration), Phelps, Nova, Nuno, Warren, Marshall, Chamberlain if he was willing to re-sign and start 2014 in AAA to build his arm back to starting pitcher strength, Pineda, and the three Sabathia trade pitchers.

    That’s SEVEN homegrown pitchers and FOUR trade acquisition pitchers for ELEVEN under control starting pitchers, and who says the Yanks couldn’t sign and/or trade for anyone?

    To anyone who says this or that to me, ask yourself: is Sabathia an ace in 2013 and worth $23M a year 2014-16 and $25M in 2017? I’d say no and no. The beauty of Sabathia is he’d be only a four-year $94M proposition for whoever takes him. Name me ONE ace or #2 starter available for 2014 who’d take just four years and/or less than $100M?

    I think Sabathia could thrive being back in the league with no DH, the pitcher batting, and a weak bottom of the order because of both.

    • pat

      To anyone who says this or that to me, ask yourself: is Sabathia an ace in 2013 and worth $23M a year 2014-16 and $25M in 2017? I’d say no and no. The beauty of Sabathia is he’d be only a four-year $94M proposition for whoever takes him. Name me ONE ace or #2 starter available for 2014 who’d take just four years and/or less than $100M?

      So he’s not an ace, but some team will trade for him and pay him like one?

      • Duh Injuries

        Hey stupid, he’s not an ace for the Yankees, all I care about.

        There’s a team out there who’d think they’d get over on the Yankees. Let one of them bite and reel in their fish.

        You’re an idiot to imply that Sabathia is untradeable and all the Yanks could get from trading him is a top prospect or two.

        • pat

          Lol. Have a nice night.

    • forensic

      Just for starters, Hughes isn’t arb eligible. It’d be a qualifying offer of about $14 million, which in my opinion is insane to offer him.

      Also, Chamberlain is not starting (or re-signing), so it’s time to stop beating the bloody corpse of that horse.

      • Duh Injuries

        Chamberlain is not getting two or more years from anyone. He is strictly a one year proposition for anyone.

        He thinks he can / wants be a starter again, ok, offer him a year and $2M base with bonuses based on number of starts and innings pitched and let’s see him pitch well enough in AAA to take someone’s job in the rotation. I doubt he gets more than $2M from anyone, so I say offer him $2M.

        Re-signing him would be total low-risk, high-reward. If the Yanks can blow $12M on Youkilis they can most certainly blow $2M on a late 20s pitcher who has a live arm.

      • Duh Injuries

        I meant offer Hughes the qualifying offer.

        $6.85M more for him, yeah, but it beats giving him two or more years and maybe he turns out a #3 starter like 2014.

        He’d be overpriced at $14M but again better than at least two years and $10M per year some team will be dumb and desperate enough to give him.

    • The Doctor

      Yeah because teams are just licking their chops to get at that giant contract.

      CC is still a very good pitcher. He’s not a top 5 pitcher in the game like he was for a long time, but with his velocity creeping upwards, he’s looked an awful lot like an ace lately. Bad luck in this game and against the Indians back whenever that was, a dominant outing against the Angels, one bad inning against the Rays, and bad luck today. He’s trending in the right direction.

      • Duh Injuries

        Four years is not a “giant contract” and good luck to any team getting an ace or #2 for less than five years and $23M a year on the open market.

        When you’re making $23M you’re supposed to be top five starter in the game, not next five.

        He’s trending in the right direction? Really? Bullshit. He blew a 3-0 lead tonight. He loses in bad ways and has looked lost too many times this year to make me think he’ll be a semblance of his 2009-11 form.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      CC likely will never post a Verlander type year but jesus christ he’s still an ace.

  • Eddard

    Robbie heating up, hitting the other way. Good sign. Now drive him home Hafner and Ichy.

  • Tom

    So I guess Hafner is hurt?

    • The Real Greg

      No because he’s pinch hitting.

      • Tom

        Gameday had Wells still hitting…

  • WhittakerWalt

    At some point Cano is just going to say “fuck it” and carry us on his back, right?

    #fingersfuckingcrossed

  • forensic

    This is part of what drives me nuts with Girardi. He can PH with Hafner for Wells now, but couldn’t do it in the 5th when he faced Gausman?

    • The Real Greg

      WHAT’S THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE?

      • forensic

        A lefty batter against a righty pitcher, which considering who we’re talking about is an enormous difference.

    • Tom

      They had a lead in the 5th inning.

      When you have a lead you sit fat dumb and happy and only make pitching changes… when was the last time you saw Girardi PH up more than 2 runs?

      • The Real Greg

        EXACTLY.

        JESUS CHRIST

        • forensic

          lol, you do realize he was being very sarcastic and making fun of your manager, don’t you???

          • The Real Greg

            Yes. But the same thing can be said about all managers in the American League.

            So you can’t get on one without getting on all of them.

        • Tom

          I guess you missed the sarcasm…

          Girardi is a moron when it comes to PH’ing. Baltimore probably has no available lefties in their pen tonight and for some batshit stupid reason the only time you can pinch hit is when you are either tied or trailing.

          Up 3 runs there is apparently no point in giving your team a better opportunity to score. Or maybe he didn’t want to downgrade the DH defense? (that would also be sarcasm)

          • The Real Greg

            Again, you can say the same about all managers in the AL.

            Bottom line, there was no need to. I don’t remember Torre ever doing it either.

            • Tom

              Your bottom line is the EXACT problem in a nutshell “there was no need to”

              Why bother trying to maximize the chances of scoring more runs when you have the lead when you can sit back and do nothing.

        • Matt

          If someone continually tells you that 1+1 = 3, does that make it true? At least in your crazy “I will defend Girardi to the grave” mind, we should only judge his decisions based on his already incorrect baseline moves.

          He could bring in Ichiro and have him pitch 9 inning of every game. But since that is his typical move, by your standard, we must say he isn’t doing a bad job if he decides to bring in Chris Stewart to pitch in relief of Ichiro. See how stupid you are?

          • The Real Greg

            Your last paragraph made no sense at all.

            • Matt

              Try to think a little harder then. By your ridiculous logic, almost any managerial blunder could be justified so long as the manager is consistently stupid.

              If he always brings in position players to pitch, then how could you fault him for bringing in another position player? Well, the fact that he has actual pitchers makes that move stupid, even though the decision was no worse than his typical move.

          • The Real Greg

            And obviously you weren’t here the other night when I was bashing Girardi.

    • Winter

      You mean leading off the fifth inning in a game they were winning 3-0? I’m glad he didn’t

      • forensic

        Why? He’s giving an AB away for free for no reason.

        • The Doctor

          If all players were machines capable of playing 162 games a year, this would make sense. Hafner is an older, injury prone player who has declined without proper rest. If you can get him the day off you do it.

        • The Real Greg

          WHO GIVE A SHIT?

          Honestly, I am biased to Girardi but you are biased against him.

          It’s better to pinch hit him with a man on then with nobody on.

          Because if you went to grade school, two runs are better than one.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

            It’s bias to advocate a logical move?

            You really say some very stange/moronic things sometimes.

            And by sometimes, I mean most of the time.

            Getting a superior hitter more AB’s is better than getting him fewer AB’s. If you finished grade school, you’d realize that.

            • The Real Greg

              Except that I bet Showalter brings on one of his lefties to only pitch to Hafner, at least the second time he comes up

              • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

                Even if that happened

                Hafner vs. LHP >>>> Wells vs. RHP

          • Matt

            Most of the people who are criticizing Girardi were initially fine with him, me included. What happened was he started going off the deep end and overmanaging every single game. He earned the criticism. If he made good moves, it would be hard to blame him if the players didn’t do their jobs.

  • Kramerica Industries

    I suppose Rotoworld was right and Buck was wrong, and that Gausman should’ve started this game. Yankees haven’t done shit against him.

    • The Real Greg

      If he did, they would be leading right now.

      They probably will win anyway, but Gausman should have started the game.

      • Tom

        What’s the word I’m looking for here?

        It starts with an F…

        Can anyone help?

      • The Doctor

        I know nothing happens in a vacuum, but if Nix hadn’t been so unlucky as to scorch a ball off Gausman and right to Machado, Cano singled after him and Hafner hit a fly ball, they’d have a run in.

        Meanwhile the Orioles tie the game on 4 hits, 2 of which are swinging bunts.

        This is when I question why I even bother with sports, but I keep watching for some reason.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        FALLACY

      • forensic

        FALLACY!!!!!!!!!!

        Geez, you can’t even see it when you write it yourself.

        • The Real Greg

          FALLACY negated by the crappiness of the Yankee offense.

          • The Real Greg

            Seriously though you are correct. They are probably leading

  • Eddard

    Well that was worthless by Ichiro. You’ve been hitting HRs, swing the bat.

    • The Doctor

      He didn’t want to hit a home run.

  • your mom

    We’re gonna lose this game aren’t we?

    • Wheels

      Yup, now we are. God dammit

    • The Real Greg

      Yes we are. And there’s nothing anybody can do about it.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    For fuck’s sake.

  • pat

    Motherfucker.

  • Kramerica Industries

    FUCK

  • Eddard

    He coughed it up again. Grand slam against the Rays and now this. His ERA is worse than Phelps right now. When is he going to be the ace again?

    • WhittakerWalt

      Didn’t you hear? The grand slam wasn’t actually his fault. TRG told me so.

  • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

    Yankee killer Nate Mclouth strikes again.

  • Frank

    LOL CC what a fucking joke.

  • Ethan

    Bean him if he comes to bat again.

  • Kramerica Industries

    I’m so tired of this Nate McLouth bullshit, too. Dude fucking kills this team.

    • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

      He really does. .273/.385/.409 vs. NYY.

      Honestly seems like all of those numbers should be +100.

  • Jimmy

    Need A-Rod and Jeter so bad.

    If not? Season ova.

  • Matt

    This has very little to do with CC. Two of their runs are due to bad fielding plays by David Adams.

    This is what happens when you have no offense. The pitching has to be perfect almost every single night. And because of that, they really press every time they are in trouble and make mistakes. You can’t get 3 runs and then throw away every at bat thereafter and blame the pitching if you lose.

    • Frank

      Typical spin job by a myopic Yankees fan. Everyone’s fault except CC’s

      • yeayo

        Yea blame it on Adams who has had how many starts at first base in his career?

        • Matt

          I didn’t blame it on Adams. Try to read a little more closely.

          And remind me whose decision it was to play David Adams at first base so that Barry “Alberto” Gonzalez (Bonds) could man the hot corner.

          • The Real Greg

            SO let’s hope Girardi gets fired soon.

  • pat

    2 bad pitches all game. Bleh.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Must…not…criticize…CC. Not allowed.

    • The Doctor

      You know what, the next time CC doesn’t rattle off 5 no-hit innings then get BSed to death, I’ll place all blame on his shoulders. This isn’t the right day. Are you even watching the game, or just looking at Gameday?

      • WhittakerWalt

        It’s more like a weird trend I’ve noticed. The past three games, no matter how many runs he gives up, there’s all sorts of ‘splaining afterwards. Today it was dribblers he didn’t have any control over. While that one is true (particularly the Jones one) he still gave up other hits that scored runs. Get Machado out. Get McClouth.

        Last start there was “the grand slam wasn’t his fault.”
        The start before that it was “he was getting BABIP-ed to death, those were bullshit runs.”

        I just think it’s weird. I love the guy, too, but he is giving up these runs.

  • Wheels

    This one hurts.

  • The Doctor

    Ha. You can only really laugh at this point. Without all the “Orioles magic” bull crap or whatever it is, it’s still 3-2. He’s given up 2 hard hit balls all night and that somehow amounts to 4 runs. I feel like I’m being too apologetic towards CC; you absolutely cannot give up a homer in a tie ball game, but the rest of team is doing nothing to pick him up. I’ve harped on it too much at this point, but if Adams just plays that freaking swinging bunt properly, CC gets out of the 6th with 1 run, and they still have a lead after the homer.

    • Kramerica Industries

      Earlier on, the problem was Sabathia giving up a ton of hits.

      Two dinky dink hits included, he’s given up all of five hits tonight. And barring some miracle, he’s going to get the L.

      This is seriously the part of baseball that can drive you absolutely insane.

    • WhittakerWalt

      It wasn’t much of a rally by the Orioles, but just one of these times I’d like CC to keep it together anyway. Mistakes were made behind you? So what. Soldier on. Get them out.
      And the hits to Machado and McClouth are all on CC.

    • Frank

      Good attempt to spin it and blame everyone except CC. Blame Adams, the offense, the defense. Bottom line – he had a 3 run lead and blew it.

      • Matt

        Wake up. A dribbler that Adams misplayed into a hit to set up the rally. A dribbler to score the tying run. Not much you can do when you make good pitches and you don’t get those outs. He pitched well enough to only allow 1 run in that inning. Nothing you can do.

        • Frank

          So you conveniently omit the big two run double he gives up to Machado and the 2 hits he gives up to lefty McLouth, one to set up that inning and the likely game winning HR.

          • Matt

            No, I didn’t omit those hits. I said he pitched well enough to give up 1 run, not 0. One of those baserunners that scored on the double reached on a dribbler, and the other scored with 2 outs on another dribbler.

            Don’t be ridiculous. It’s not like he gave up line drive after line drive. The McClouth single was a blooper. And the HR was one mistake and it was a solo shot. You can’t expect him to throw a shutout.

          • Matt

            And you need to learn to read. I said IN THAT INNING. What McClouth did in the next inning was irrelevant. Overall, CC really only gave up 2 legitimate runs.

  • Duh Injuries

    Yeah, real “ace”.

    Sabathia is a $23M third starter now – trade him.

    And trade Cano midseason since he most likely won’t carry the team for three weeks like real star players do.

    • The Doctor

      Where did you come from? Go back there.

      I’ll dignify you with responses, but that’s the end of this:

      1) Ace? Maybe not. He’s still a very high level starter and this is how deals work. The Yankees got 4 ace-like years out of him and will now have 4 of him as a 1.5-2 type. That’s about as well as a deal can go. No one is going to even target him in a trade unless the Yankees eat a serious chunk of the contract, which is not something they should be looking to do.

      2) Never, in history, has a single player been able to carry an entire team by themselves. I repeat: never. After Cano, there’s Brett Gardner and a bunch of below league average hitters. Players can carry a team like Miguel Cabrera has this year, which is to say they can absolutely mash when given a good supporting cast, but you can’t produce if there’s no one around you. Unless you’re expecting him to hit 648 homers a year, in which case sure I guess he could get it all done himself.

    • Kramerica Industries

      If he’s only a third starter at this point, who the hell is going to trade for him with his contract?

      Sometimes, people just don’t even put a hint of thought into the BS they’re spewing. It’s hilarious.

      • The Doctor

        Yeah, I understand the frustration with CC and Cano considering they’re supposed to be an ace and an elite offensive threat respectively, but that doesn’t mean there’s a solution as simple as “trade them”. It’s not like CC’s performances are top secret confidential information that only the Yankees have; everyone knows he’s declined a bit. Trading Cano makes more sense seeing as there are probably 29 teams in baseball who’d love to get a hold of him, especially the ones making runs at a World Series this year. Still, he’s light-years better than the average second baseman and would be impossible to replace. On a less rational note, it’s Mo’s last season and they really shouldn’t do him any more of a disservice than they already have.

  • Lukaszek

    4-for-4 with two homeruns and a double…I fucking hate Cabrera right now

    • The Doctor

      Why? It’s not hurting the Yankees and it’s fun to watch.

  • Tom

    Also…
    7th inning = time to get Overbay in as a defensive replacement.
    6th inning, righty on the mound… let’s not use Overbay to PH for either Adams or Gonzalez… because we have a 3 run lead and that’s too early to get defense in.

    • The Real Greg

      Bit of a Fallacy but you are correct.

      It seems managers have very little foresight into what’s to come.

      • Tom

        What fallacy… if you are going to bring in a guy in the7th for defense, why not bring him in in the 6th AND get a better hitting matchup

        There is no fallacy – you really should take the time to learn what that means.

        • The Real Greg

          Because there’s an implication that Overbay would have done something with the bat.

          • Tom

            WHERE?

            If you are going to bring in a guy for defense, why not bring him in for defense AND get an AB against a righty? Why have 2 weak righty hitters bat in the 6th, and then bring in a lefty hitting defensive replacement in the 7th?

            It’s just dumb.. this has nothing to do with fallacy.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

            No. There’s a fact that Overbay has a better chance of doing something with the AB.

  • pat

    And all the shitbirds come out as soon as the Yankees start losing. Hilarious.

  • Ethan

    I can’t remember a time when the offense has looked this bad for this long. Granted, I was too young in the early ’90s to follow baseball.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Baseball, like all sports, is like the classic love/hate relationship.

    Sometimes, I could swear, I fucking hate this sport.

  • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

    Oh Joba is in. Where is that towel gif? Sure hope I’m wrong..

  • sangreal

    Joba in a 1-run game again?

    • Tom

      Girardi always does this so, by reason, this is a good move and you can’t complain

      /Greg’d

      • The Real Greg

        Have never said that. In fact, I was pissed when he brought in Joba in the Texas series.

        • Matt

          BS. That’s simply not true. You have said that almost every single night. “You can’t blame him because he doesn’t know better.” “You can’t blame him because managers don’t typically make that move.”

          • The Real Greg

            You were not here. I stated that that second game against Texas was “Girardi’s worst managed game of this year”

            He didn’t pinch hit when he could have and he brought in Joba who let the game get away.

            • Matt

              I was most certainly here. One time does not change the fact that you nearly constantly defend Girardi with some of the most asinine logic I have ever seen. “He has mouths to feed.”

              Girardi makes tons of stupid moves, and you brush them off nearly constantly.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    So…its about to be 6-3 right?

  • Tom

    On the bright side Toronto tied up Boston as Boston’s closer, 8th inning guy , 7th inning guy Andrew Bailey coughed up the lead.

    Of course that could leave the Yankees just 2 games out of last at the end of the night (though I still prefer Boston to lose)

  • Taco John

    Since the former ACE blew the lead and pitched to his declining skills, game is lost and Yanks will get swept. By the break, Yanks will be tied for last place. Hal and Hanks dismantling of the Yankees is under way.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Swept? You know this after 8 innings of game 1?

      • Taco John

        Ha ha..apparently you thing there is an offense that can come through. You do realize that pop ups and ground outs, and strike out dont create runs when there are no base runners? Or is there a mystery bat on the bench that will help? Ps Joba is pitching.

        • WhittakerWalt

          By that logic they’ll never win another game this year.

          • Taco John

            Didn’t say no another game, just said swept… See game over already. This team is now regressing to their mean….last place.

  • James A

    This is a weird time to bring this up, but I just thought of it. As a Yankees fan born in 1991, this is the worst Yankees team that I can remember … and yet they’re still 42-36 and in contention. I guess I could expect them to be always good because of their financial advantages, or be complaining about why this team has a AAA lineup, but right now I’m just appreciating how great a franchise this is and how awesome a run they’re in. Let’s just all hope this isn’t 1965

    • Ethan

      Same here. And while they’re 6 games over .500 they haven’t been playing like that for the last two months. They’ve been abysmal since the end of April. That’s what we’re all seeing and remembering. And in all honesty, that’s closer to their true talent than what we saw in April.

      From the mid-90s onward we have definitely been blessed with good teams.

    • Frank

      Born in ’91. LOL. You haven’t experienced futility. Just wait. This is just the beginning.

      • James A

        I know, that’s what I’m afraid of

    • Bo Knows

      Same here ’91; it doesn’t bother me though, we’ve been fortunate and although this team is offensively helpless, they are still several games over .500

  • Mick taylor

    Let’s see, yanks could have had puig , cespedes , Carlos Beltran, darvish, Nate mclouth, prince fielder and given up nothing , no players , nothing but money. They could have kept Raul ibanez for amodest contract.It is cashman who sucks.

    • pat

      Feels better every time you write it, right?

    • BFDeal

      Remember when you whined for a year on how they should sign Hafner?

  • Wheels

    Man, if we can somehow pull this out in the 9th against Matusz.

    • Taco John

      P

    • Wheels

      Correction, Hunter.

  • Oy

    Raul Ibanez has a higher wRC than any player on this team. Including Cano. Let’s all take a moment and consider this club’s chances of advancing to October.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Buck not even letting the Yankees face Johnson.

    They really are toast.

  • jtb120318

    Way to go CC…you are spotted a 3-0 lead and then you blow it with 4 runs on 5 hits. You’re a joke. Maybe you should hold out for more money…and that idiot Cashman would give it to you.

    • Matt

      Let’s see. Bloop single. Dribbler. Dribbler. That was 3 of the 5 hits. 3 runs is not a lock by any stretch, and the offense took the night off and put it all on CC.

      • The Real Greg

        With this offense, 3 runs is a nice day at work.

      • Frank

        The offense didn’t put it all on CC. The offense scored 3 runs. For this team, that’s a major accomplishment. He needed to shut these guys down in a must win game and he didn’t. Cheap hits or not.

        • The Real Greg

          Exactly, partly.

        • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

          Tough to do given how good the O’s offense is. But yeah.

        • Matt

          Again, you can’t expect CC to throw a shutout.

          2 of the 4 runs that he allowed were due to bad luck and bad defense by Adams. There is little you can do when that happens.

          Stop being an idiot and blindly criticizing him because of the outcome without thinking of how it actually got to that point. If a guy reaches base on an error, you wouldn’t be applauding him. So don’t criticize a guy when he gives up a dribbler to score a run.

          • WhittakerWalt

            But he still gave up huge, huge hits. Hits that lost the game. Are all the runs on him? No. The hit by Jones was just one of those things that you can’t prevent. The inning would have been over if the play was made. But he gave up the other runs, for sure.

          • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

            We CAN expect him not to give up a HR in a tie game. I agree with a lot of what you said, but I’m not a fan of the knee-jerk CC defenses. This was not a good start, and it’s continued a trend of very disappointing starts all year.

    • pat

      Scintillating commentary.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Nix swinging at absolute garbage. Way to go, assclown.

  • Ethan

    Hey Nix I have this watercooler. Maybe you should take out some frustration on that Paul O’neil style. But maybe you won’t be able to hit it, probably just swing and miss.

  • Kramerica Industries

    That was seriously brutal. Orioles fucking stole that one tonight.

    • Taco John

      No the former shell of an ace coughed it up. Well that and the fact they keep running out Old Timers day roster.

      • BFDeal

        What ever ya gotta tell yourself, Tacoboy

  • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

    F injuries, F dinky ass hits, F Nate Mclouth.

    This team is in trouble.

    • The Real Greg

      This team has been in trouble since the Mets series. That series and the Oakland series has signaled this team’s downfall.

      • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

        Yea, pretty much. Jeet, Arod, and Grandy will really have to step up once they’re back for us to have a shot.

        Its getting pretty bad. I’m at the point where I don’t even think upgrades at the deadline will help this team. Doubt the Yanks become sellers, though.

  • Mick taylor

    Raul ibanez has 19 home runs . He probably would have over 20 if he were playing in Yankee stadium. Cespedes darvishand puig were the type of young players yanks could have usedNow with the rules restricting how much yanks can pay for international players they will not have a chance to get a player like puig.Crashman sucks

    • pat

      Puig wasn’t subject to the new rules, genius.

      • Matt

        Which is exactly his point. The Yankees front office was greedy and skimped on players who were even willing to sign with them at below market value rates, and left the roster with very little depth.

        • BFDeal

          Concerns over investing in an unknown does not equal greedy.

          • Matt

            That’s ridiculous. Would you call Russell Martin an unknown? 2 years/$17 million, then turning around and signing Ichiro for the same contract to try to milk the Japanese money. That’s greed at its finest.

            These guys were clearly not unknowns when teams were willing to dish out that much money for them, and even then their contracts are really not that big in the scheme of things. You can easily absorb that sort of risk with a payroll the size that the Yankees have.

            • BFDeal

              Martin was not mentioned. The players mentioned were Cespedes, Darvish, and Puig. And, yes, those three were unknowns as far as transitioning to MLB.

      • Mick taylor

        Hey pat jerkoff did I say they were subject to the rules? My point is they were not subject to the new rules but in the future if there are prospects like them the new rules will bar them from signing them because they will not have enough money jerkoff

    • stuart a

      i am sure if the yanks signed them(Cespedes, puig, etc) and they stunk you would give Cashman a pass on the moves…

      the 2nd guessing by the under 18 year old crowd is laughable…..

    • BFDeal

      Mick Taylor sucks.

    • Mr. Roth

      If my sister had a penis she would be my brother.

  • Taco John

    Cano just wasn’t fast enough. Oh wait he never fucking runs hard to first, so give him millions. What a joke!

  • stuart a

    Wow the under 18 year old morons out in force.

    so every guy the yanks do not sign and the player does well means the yanks should have signed him according to the spoiled brat yankee fans. When I say fans that is a loose description of the word fan.

    did not see the game in Texas but read adams broke in on a ball etc. CC cannot field his position so I assume he may have messed up anyway.

    CC given a 3 run lead after 5 should be able to hold on.

    they cannot score bottom line write it or say it anyway you want, they cannot score….

  • mt

    I haven’t been following the whole game but ESPNNewYork.com front page said CC pitched a fit in the dugout – did cameras catch it?

    • pat

      Yeah. He slammed his glove and knocked some stuff off the bench. He looked really angry.

  • dan genovese

    just do not forget 189 is coming….only going to get worse………….yes,sky is falling.